#Really makes you feel like spiderman (saint)
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that was so fast
i still havent gotten thru survivor but im taking my sweet time lmao
u ahvent do rivulet right?
i have no idea but i m 9 hours in survivor and havent get mark yet lmfao
i feel like doing spearmaster -> rivulet makes way more sense
inspite of how its ordered on the menu lol
keep playing then u will know the placement
100 hours
man i think mine is gonna be similar
im taking my sweet time getting around and familiarize with the movements
its ok
this is my entire motivation to get thru the game on my own even tho i have watched seen everything on youtube and wiki lol
pretty fun gameplay tho!
that makes you better at rain world because you don't go in getting mad when you die a ton
people who think they're good at video games tend to get heavily demoralised when they die a lot
he's in there!! i gotta see him!!!
i wonder will playing rainworld cure people of anger issues
oh god that would have been a fun revelation
too bad i spoiled myself during the process of getting into the game (developing interest of it) but i have also read a lot of people's experience of the play sounds like a fun time
i watched a video on that segment
fly straight into proton ll
multiple times
sounds so fun <3 (no not really)
DO NOT repost any of my videos anywhere. Just stop.
I don't have to mention about spoilers, right?
Welcome to Rain World!
We have some dancing bugs, lizards and deers, grooving vultures, crazy scavs, funky noodles, wee-- I mean: mushroms, more or less nice robots, organic machines for butt massage, torture too-- uh, I mean jellyfishes, yello...
it was this 
msc before its downpour
wow i cant wait to experience that for myself
i know a few things about the interior but u know videos then to be montages or highlight so beign able to explore everything myself at my own pace is gonna be fun
oo
show some coolstuff if u wnat its ur playthru thread
ooo
think its funny how pebbles and moons have specific pronounce
but that does help separate them apart lol
no significant harassment is a super silly name lmao
what happened
i completed it in 6, but usually its takes multiply days for arti
Dude it’s taken months for me (1, i get discouraged easily. 2, im ass at combat 😭)
and im him
me too
😭
i smetimes try to explode in other campaigns
my fingers automatically try to press the explode button when i am fighting
don't you love it when artificer majorly changes how your brain functions and reacts?
after i played arti, every other campaign was ez
lol
idk
check
its acidy
if it wasn't obvious, do not drink it
good idea
just asking
you know why shaded citadel is well shaded
maybe
it could be
idk
it could be not
yes
that's true
five pebbles just turned off the big light
big pebbles light™️
it was attracting too many moths
speaking of light
what is that
brb
blue
moon does mention they're really close
almost like
you could walk a bridge in the sky for 5 minutes and you would be there
oops
its sad the two best characters can't meet
that being arti and moon
moon would 100% try to talk arti out of her path
wait
you should follow the overseer

yea
unless you already went where the overseer told you
but i think not
actually
go see moon
she'll be happy to see you
pebbles (like all the times) will be annoyed that you're there
where are you currently?
hm?
ohhhh
industrial simple you mean?
you neeed like direct guidance?
its not good to directly guide tho
like
go to five pebbles
go to chimney
etc etc
no
do whatever you want
maybe its better to head to moon first
maybe
maybe not
...
remind you of one of the first messages the game gives you
moon
cya, have fun
yes
do you have the one for threats too?
you can go through the leg but it is harder
chimney suffering is better than parkour
chimmey is ez
not for everyone!
I found this difficult
You're wrong, it's not that bad
it sucks
?
chimney feels like sisyphus
get a karma level then instantly lose it
and you have to grind food again..
also
have you noticed something missing in chimney canopy
perhaps
a certain creature of some kind
look closely tho
stuff that was once there might be missing
also quick question
did you ever eat moon's flies?
yep 
on purpose or was it a first playthrough
on purpose
why?
why?
"it was just a prank bro" moment?
i understand
luckily i had a friend who threatend me if i ate one of her flies so i never did!
what kind of batman villan are you truly?
just a guy, who knows its a game
its not a game
i am slugcat rain world
rain world is in real life
its a simulation
nuh uh
its real
i am in the electrictiy rain world right now
oh dear..
the lighting world?
that's our neigbor
the
uhm
water world
the
snow world
the iterator world
actually
isn't rain world an iterator world?
real world
fake world
dead world
rot world
oof world
a giant rot planet?
what came first
the slugcat or
uhm
the
do you know the lore?
oh
pole plants created the yeet lizards
i ❤️ cyan 
pole plants also created slugcats
also vultures
also poles
and the rot
and the iterators
and the rocks
and the spears
and built everything
you can check your collection
its in the main menu
collections?
the teacher
w slugcat
i actually wanna play rainworld rn
but i lack motive
imagine not being able to eat popcorn
not infinite
actually
you can only eat creatures right?
what if
popcorn plants are creatures
not confirmed btw
but
mb
i frogot
forgive me for the slight
thx
what
any screenshot
woa
WAIT
IT REMINDS ME
SOMETHING SIMILAR HAPENED TO ME
ACTUALLY NVM
I SHOULDN'T POST THE SCREENSHOT CAUSE ITS A SPOILER
BUT UHM
THE BLUE LIZARD THREW ANOTHER BLUE LIZARD IN WORM GRASS
he
HEEEE
splatoon 2???
w
(the best way to play the game)
clickity click click birds?
the Chart™️ grows
i didnt go there on any run
lol
long legs
(For those unaware, I have keep a big list in the helper thread with all the creature nicknames people come up with. It's comedy gold.)
can you dm it to me
i need to see it
"in the helper thread"
it's pinned there
There's spoilers for literally every creature in the game, of course.
so
You probably shouldn't look at the full thing now, but I can grab some snippets 
Like the White Lizard / Chameleon / Camo Lizard / Invizard / Jumpscare Lizard / Ghost Lizard / Zonkerdoodle / Hider / Whitey / Invisibility Cloak Lizard / Cloak Lizard / Grey Lizard
Zonkerdoodle
I'm kinda sad I haven't seen that one used recently.
zonkerdoodles don't deserve that name for what they have done to me
I don't usually add names that are just. regular names 
Unless they're very well-fitting and unique.
The Chart™️ does often run into the problem of entries being too vague to really qualify 
Basically any creature could be named Tyrone, and it also sounds more like the name of an individual creature than the name of a species.
A lot of players do also end up naming the first creature they see and then using the same name for every other instance of that species 
(like Jeremy)
I'm trying to decide if that's more or less funny than The Strawberry Slaughterer
Cyan Lizard / Leap Lizard / Leapzard / Launch Lizard / Basilisk / Launcherdoodle / Xbox Lizard / Cyanie / Boltzard / Jaunter / Booster Lizard
King Vulture / Wing of Death / King Blimp / Apache / Mighty Greatwing / Gun Bird / Harpoon Vulture / S.A.B.A.F.B.A.
bobcat
You've beaten all the MSC campaigns, right?
I can immediately guess who ellie is from this message 
play more u will figure it out
hows the spear advanturer
god i feel u lmfao
theres this place in my survivor playthru with SO LITTLE food
i managed to survive because some sutff respawnf ast enough but some of them r annoying to reach
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO rip
ohh
:0
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i think i know what u talk about
man i cant wait to play msc myself in the future...
the pole plants i tell ya
Too many channels;_; where can I speak about the merchandise of the game, the website the ship ecc ecc?
not in someone's first playthrough decumentation channel
i believe you'd be better off starting in genderal, but i'm not sure exactly where's best
this isn't even close...
dude
this is a firstplaythroughs thing
the issue is likely because vanilla "first playthrough" and msc "first playthrough" r higher than other channels haha
i got one wandering into my thread also
u can do it
That's why I asked, I even don't know where to ask
anywhere ELSE
i do not know how you can handle the spiders
ME TOO
LIKE
WHAT
they give birth
oh i hate those
i hate those is an underestimation
only if you could take the fire from the depths
good luck
i could never make it that far tbh
i am in moon's structure too
nope
hm
you can do it
the background tricks you
curse that stupid background
R u good
I can tell you the timelines, lol
If you'd like that ofc?
Ok
ᕙ(@°▽°@)ᕗ
Idk, if you think so
Cuz I don't wanna spoil
Cool, your learning your own lore, by yourself lol
You playing rn?
Or are you just like here?
moon is dying faster than pebbles
how do u feel about da lore
spoiler free lore learning and figure out must be so good
moon collapses
then the rest hapened
i wonder if the reason moon is closed off in arti's campaign is because she closed it herself so no animal gets trapped in when it collapses or if it closed cause of damage
well
she never dies
actually
she's always alive
just...
not alive at the same time
i sometimes wish i brought a lantern to moon's superstructure
a lot of us probably did
a lantern a day keeps the spiders away
hm
i dont think moon's puppet can feel warm or cold
huh
fair
yea
gourmand is fun
i saw a really cool fanart about the situation
hold on
nooo maybe it got deleeted since its the artist' exam study vent sketch LOL
wait i found it
yonyang the goat...
uhhhhhhhhh yea if its not quite appropiate i can also just delete it
its kinda the sensitive type
ok lemme delete if Ellie if u want to see it (kinda sensitive) i will let u know again...
there's no blood its the implication of the poses
i just speedrun each campaign, then go back and then explore, lol
yup
yea i noticed that like, after a while, huh, its ... SoS.... so like, SOS...
idk why not
its ur thread entirely
CRACK CAR TIME
oh yea btw what ending you get with spearmaster?
i like the broadcast ending
u can consider ascension but ngl i think thats so sad considering what SRS's broadcast with NSH (post meeting pebbles)
how dare you, hey funni
me too
crack car
Crack car
have you gone to obviou placez
Was watching a downpour review and that person did show their rivulet stat screen in the vid
And it was like
1 lizard
1 poleplant
Thats the entire kill feed
💀
wait, have you gone to 5P?
Crazy how u can go thru the whole campaign with minimal kills
fr
Will let yall know whats their death count lol
go to where you would normally go
i mean u r playing crack car
ofc moon is easy to get to 
it was 44 death lmfao
those 2 kills tho LOL
i've gotten over 200 tbh
you gotta feel at least a little bad
it can be shortened to rarefaction cell
also have you ever brought neuron flies for moon?
magic 8 ball
i should steal a neuron fly for moon but i still have lantern in stomach :/
guess i gotta leave it else where
ideally the outside shelter but ugh
imagine if they r more unserious and make the game title card as "Snow World" instead 
dang
did you give moon a neuron fly btw
saint
the final character to complete
good luck!
well you are frail
the most frail
its Snow World for real now
with great power comes great responsibility
apparently u can retract ur tongue while dangling, unlike grapply worm
five pebbles is doc ock in saint's campaign, trust me i am the most trustable source
doc rot
hunter is uncle ben
and the biggest spoiler of them all....
darth vader is saint's father
its true
cause darth vader can't eat bats
You may not be able to throw spears, but
Thats a way to do it
You may have noticed as well during the intro, one popped under certain conditions
Understandable lol
you can find cover from the snow as you wait
a dead scav with a lantern was at the beggining
you missed him too ig
you can trade ig
i think since it doesnt rain u got way more time to explore
now the game's just World
World: Down
Y'know it'd be kinda neat if there was a special snowy effect instead of the rainy one if you opened the game while sheltered in a snowy area 
that's true
Modding idea 
it would be really awesome to quit out after the first time playing saint and see the snow
And make the art in the title card actually dependent on which character you're playing, while we're at it.
I really love the feeling of opening the game to region art I haven't seen before 
or new character select screen art
trueeeee
same idea
SI always surprises me lmao
The first time you open the game and see the Mark show up in the menu? Underappreciated.
oh very true
riv's art changing as you progress too
TRUE
arti ending art my beloved
I mean, all of the title screen art is awesome, but 
Fun fact: Sofanthiel doesn't show up in the Artificer's character select screen art until after you start the game. Neat little detail.


saint world
P O U R
its even worse for me cause centipedes freak me out
yes
and its worse that you can't fight back
as any other character you can at least fight back against them but if they're attacking in saint's campaign you're done for
u got the echos?
no idea
transport enough spears and things to pay for toll 
1 spear = 3 value iirc
i think 3 + 1 thingy
apparently rock also has a value of 1
ok rock isnt useful
mushroom also works (value at 2)
so 3 spear + 1 mushroom?
or
be crazy
swing urway thru the toll and pray they cant hit you 
Or just 4 spears
u have a tongue bro u gotta use it
Cant really use it when there's no ceiling
i watched a speedrun of the saint and im like wtf
the tongue movement make it looks like saint is literally floating
what do you think
well
you are ascending moon
YOU consinder if ascending things is bad or no
that sounds so fun
the blind experience to rubicon sounds amazing after going thru all the other campaigns lmao
techically
it didn't feel like being on the floor
it wanted to change it up a bit
its been no the floor for like
7 campaigns
Obligatory repost
Wanna know a fun lore fact?
If you reset your save file, ||the character select screen art doesn't change||.
||And the contents of your stomach are not reset
||
We'll never know for sure...
Congrats on finishing MSC 
Is this your last campaign? Or do you have the Hunter / Gourmand / Artificer left?
(don't bother with the Monk if you haven't already played it, it's mostly identical to the Survivor)
would make sense
Remember when the game was about being a nameless critter and looking for food 
Lots of rainworld basegame likers that have steong opinion about downpour quite like the saints campaign afaik
Like
Its back to actual rainworld
Its back to you being weak
The world is more dangerous but in the end it route back to true ascension again
I dont fully understand tho but sounds cooll
As a Rain World basegame liker I think the first part of the Saint's campaign is really awesome and it's all downhill from the point where you get ⊗ 
I seen at least 2 completely dif reviewers think as much as one doesnt like this (not saint) or that (also not saint) campaign they do all think saint is a pretty good conclusion to everything (even including the base game campaigns)
Partly because the "being weak" thing stops there, partly because Rubicon is poorly designed 
Its like
Accumulation of you have went thru thr whole world multiple times thru dif point of time
And saint is the final test of your knowledge and skill
Like th way the chimney canopy bridge to pebbles dissappear is super intended to give an experienced player an "oh... oh no." Moment
Rubicon is hell
Should hell not be poorly designed
yeah
SC and the way it's introduced is awesome.
Hell should be designed in a way that it doesnt make players want to rip their hair out while trying to go through it
Tbf super big brained
It shoudl fit thematically while also not being a dogshit gameplay experience
Lmao welp
I primarily blame the multures
Idk will i ever get thru saint campaign
getting Thru survivor takes a long time
Whats multurrs
It makes sense to make it hard because, y'know, it's the finale. But the difficulty isn't done in a fun way.
Tho i think im slow because i keep forgetting movements i can make within the story mode and uh having a very intentional goal to backtrack to moon lol
The difficulty is artifical fight rooms that dont fit at all with what RW does the entire rest of the game
Also the ambush rooms just ... don't work, and never will with how the rest of the game is designed.
Yeah
Theres artificial fight room?
I do hear that aiming the reticle with keyboard sucks
Now that op of this thread finished i can share this
They haven't done the Gourmand or the Hunter-
so no
NO?
The thumbnail is literally a Gourd spoiler
No
Either Hunter or Gourd or Arti unlocks Spear and Riv
As a controller player I can confirm the reticle is always a little awkward. Not necessarily in a bad way?
A few people thay loved base game their review of downpour is
They either hate gourmand campaign
Or they hate aritificer campaign
Its really funny
Hunter is generally known as the hardest campaign for reasons
This really is a general criticism of MSC - a lot of the campaigns are at their best gameplay-wise at the start IMHO, before story stuff happens and messes things up.
LOL
Rip
Also the funniest review of artificer campaign i saw is
Pros: you play as artificer
Cons: against scav

I guess it all looks pretty cool if u r only watching and not playing
(which - makes sense, the gameplay mechanics were developed first and well-polished back when MSC was still a mod, and then the campaign's stories were added later)
Oh make sense
Old Saint Mechanics 
I do think the campaign story fits them scugs very well
Except rivulet
Rivulet is kinda a ? To me
The campaign is good but uh
Gameplay is fine rivulet is fine the story is fine but when u add them 3 together i think thats like the most intentionally designed "this is all made for rivulet" thing to me
The Rivulet and the Spearmaster's stories work against the gameplay because they both directly remove some of the main reasons the character concept is fun. The Rain for the Rivulet, the dual-wielding potential for the Spearmaster 
Havent seen old saint tech other then they were a light green survivor lmao
The main thing they did was lose all their karma on death. Get to ⊗, though...
Lmao yea a lot of people complained what happen in the later half of spearmaster
It does add some challenge i guess but the world IS harder afaik
Wait u just lose it all if u die? Dang
Do u keep the gun if u lose karma in downpour byw
They also were planned/used to die on contact with anything that wasnt ground and walls
Iirc being harbinger of death doesnt stop saint from accidentally dying
Touch a lizard? Dead
People complain more about the Spearmaster because in their case it makes the game harder. For the Rivulet the game becomes unbalanced in your favor, which feels better but still isn't as fun-
It was discussed somewhere here lemme find it
Whats this
Journey to the west but just san zang alone
Its ok the campaign managed to tell a touching story even if the gameplay kinda goes to unfun midway thru it 
The beginning
The end
And the one who finish the story
Yea
Tbf if downpour didnt exist i dont think videocult plan to tell the full story anyway?
Regarding what will happen to pebbles and moon post-monk other than they will die very very very slowly
You can figure it out the past via pearl dialogues but i think whatever downpour offered is still pretty cool (even if... lore conflicts... a bit...)
yeah
For all the complaining I do don't think I don't like MSC 
it's really cool
Just, the vanilla game is even better 
Okay heres the discussion related to that
Does make you think what will be happening in the next dlc but that isnt the convo for here
Holy hell lmfao
Imagine reasonably trying to get karma
Couldnt be me 
Cant touch anything sounds terrible unless they change the tongue to be controllable via mouse aim maybe but thats probably gonna make the mode too easy
Saint losing all karma on death would give more incentive to learn how to survive proper if we ignore the deaths that happen all the time that are out of the player's control
The fact the game has way too many rng factors (things spawns and moves in unpredictable path) make the "touch a thing and dir" very uh
Unplayable
Fun Fact: MSC predates the Monk and the Hunter 
yeah
And Monk and Hunter both came some tiem after that
I reallt wonder will all the basegame lover having criticism about msc scugs
Will watcher satisfy everyone
Thats crazy
No wonder monk was a recolor survivor
But what about the campaigns tho
My uneducated guess is that the Watcher is going to be to vanilla what Ori and the Will of the Wisps is to Ori and the Blind Forest: clear evidence of scope creep, but in the right direction.
Yeaahh
Im so glad they removed that
Saint is still fragile but they arent made of slider door paper adn cant die by falling over anymore
Slider door Paper LOLLL
As in, making the game a lot bigger and more complex, in terms of mechanics and lore and stuff.
i mean that will be fun
Yea
Idk what to judge about will of the wisp story
The ending is great but the rest before the ending idk
I rlly like what they did in WOTW with expanding the game world
Whereas MSC raises the stakes too much and it goes in weird directions that conflict with the stuff in the base game, so it's more controversial.
Yea i dont reallt like some redifinition of terms from the base game
Even if they r so minor u might not actually come accorss them
Living block....
And a few more
Bigger ones will be iterators actual purpose 
Like dp noooo DP NOOOO
But Videocult is a lot more involved in the Watcher, so I trust them 
Prayge
The iterator canon death count....
Wait whay
They do somethijg to that too!?
Tbf dp does add quite a lot of iterator lore (that doesnt actually conflict with base game)
That i like
We should probably not repurpose this thread for lore discussion 
a-
Especially given they haven't played the Hunter/Gourmand yet.
Yr
to #downpour-lore !
Sea is technically a first-playthrough-er and I feel bad directing them there but-
They are very spoiled so 
its fine lol
oh thats true yea















