My first Rain World playthrough!

[torn grail]

I just call it Auto-Karma Losing Machine

TM

Don’t steal it

[brisk snow]

I can't add that to the Chart™️ as it sadly isn't specific enough to identify one type of creature

[torn grail]

I put the hyphen wrong but whatever

[torn grail]

What

Oh I don’t want it in the chart

It was just a joke I made up on the spot I never called it that

[brisk snow]

yeah I know

(why are you so obsessed with losing karma)

[torn grail]

Cause even if I don’t need it

It gives me the opposite of adrenaline

Or whatever the Willy Billy nilly happy chemical is

[urban field]

dopamine?

[torn grail]

Yeah

That

Not dope a man

Sadamine

[thick mango]

[torn grail]

It also makes me angryamine

I know I don’t need karma but like

When I’m max karma it’s annoying

[thick mango]

nah nah I get what you mean

its a reasonable reaction but you gotta go full zen

[torn grail]

[thick mango]

find ur inner slugcat

<- become him

[torn grail]

This emoji is so cute

What’s saint

Is that another slight

[thick mango]

it's a DLC slugcat

[torn grail]

Slugcat

Ohh

[brisk snow]

MSC character

[thick mango]

so you know how base game has monk survivor hunter

saint is a different one

[torn grail]

So normally there’s hunter monk and survivor right

Yeah

[brisk snow]

yeah

MSC adds more

that's it's thing, More Slug Cats

[torn grail]

How much is it

[thick mango]

two hundred thousand dollar

[torn grail]

[brisk snow]

I don't really recommend getting it before beating the game anyways.

[torn grail]

I know I just wanted to know how much

[brisk snow]

It's designed more for postgame players, most of the changes it makes to the vanilla campaigns are mid at best

[torn grail]

How much

[brisk snow]

Usually it just makes things more confusing, which the game obviously doesn't need. It's got a very particular balance of confusingness

[torn grail]

HOW MUCH IS THE DLC

[brisk snow]

I don't remember

[urban field]

You know you can... google it yourself

[torn grail]

No

I’m too lazy to leave discord

[thick mango]

skill issue

[brisk snow]

expensive enough, it does add quite a lot

[thick mango]

stop watching one piece

‎$14.99

[torn grail]

What

Wow

I could buy 2 more hollow knights with that

[brisk snow]

The DLC is basically a mod that got officialized.

[thick mango]

its been on sale for 60% off at lowest

[torn grail]

And have enough left for a cup of orange juice

[thick mango]

It's like 5 rain world sequels

LMAO

[brisk snow]

The "More Slug Cats" part means 5 new campaigns, so, y'know, it does have quite a bit of content.

[thick mango]

it is simultaneously a rain world dlc, plus rain world 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, battle pass, multiplayer, arena, sandbox, and rain world 7

also roguelike

i should add that to my copypasta

[torn grail]

Justified

But

Is it better than hollow knight

[brisk snow]

probably not

[thick mango]

it's more rain world

i would say it is

[torn grail]

Dude

You cannot talk

You haven’t played hollow knight

[thick mango]

LMAO

[brisk snow]

Yeah but I've heard good things about it

[torn grail]

That’s contradicting

Your previous statement

[thick mango]

isn't hollow knight also 15 dollars

[brisk snow]

And TBH I don't like MSC that much. It's great, and totally worth playing if you enjoyed the base game, but

[thick mango]

you could buy only 1 hollow knight

[torn grail]

$7 and sometimes lower on Humble

[urban field]

I have ~700 hours in RW and ~400 hours in HK
Is that good enough

[torn grail]

And other sites

[thick mango]

yeah Downpour is like 10 dollars

[urban field]

Wth is humble

[torn grail]

Yeah 400 hours is enough to have an opinion on HK

[thick mango]

on sale

[thick mango]

humble bundle!!

[torn grail]

Humble bundle

[urban field]

Oh

[thick mango]

go to humble bundle

good deals

[torn grail]

Its $7 on humble bundle rn and sometimes its even lower

You can check on isthereanydeals

Bit

Not

Bot

[thick mango]

wait wtf owlcat is on humble rn

icewind dale 233 pesos tempting

[torn grail]

Are you a pirate or something

[thick mango]

nah

[torn grail]

Why are you using pirate money

[thick mango]

oh

i'm filipino

[torn grail]

Oh

[thick mango]

whenever rain world goes on a bundle listed as "metroidvania" a butterfly flaps its wings

[brisk snow]

and we all die inside

because a bunch of people show up here asking where the double jump is

[thick mango]

HAHUAH\

[brisk snow]

(that's an exaggeration)

[urban field]

Nah but people def expect metroidvania elements then get disappointed when there are none because RW technically is and isnt a metroidvania

[thick mango]

Rain World's genre is Rain World

[urban field]

True

[torn grail]

bruhhh

ori isnt on console

which means it prob doesnt have controller support

RIP

what was the other one

bo

[urban field]

Whar

[urban field]

I use an xbox controller with it just fine

[torn grail]

oh thats good then

so i can buy it on PC

[urban field]

Yea

Whats funny is

I played Ori with keyboard when I first got it

Then 1 specific part messed with me so hard

I switched to controller and have used that ever since

[torn grail]

lol nice

ill try it out

how much is it

[urban field]

I dont remember its been like 6 years

[torn grail]

$20notbad

[urban field]

Damn I bought Ori so long ago I have a version thats no longer buyable

[torn grail]

what version

[urban field]

ANyways yea the definitive edition is $20

[urban field]

The non-definitive editon

[torn grail]

ah i see

how much was it

[urban field]

How should I know it came out like 6 years ago and its not buyable now lol
Probably the same amount
I got the definitive edition free with it I think

[torn grail]

Ah I see

Alr then

[urban field]

I think I see why they removed the original version from being buyable tho

The definitive edition fixed a lot of things and is actually 100%able on my end

[torn grail]

Gotcha

I bought it btw

Just waiting for ti to download

[thick mango]

nice

[torn grail]

This game is so pretty omg

WHY AM I ALREADY CRYING FROM THE PROLOGUE

Omg the movement is so good tho

Wait im in rain world still oops

Is there an Ori dc

[minor ember]

lol

idk probably

[torn grail]

New pfp check

[urban field]

Yea but it doesnt rlly have any spoiler-free channels last I checked

[torn grail]

Well guess im staying here for ori stuff

[urban field]

Glab you like it so far tho :3 One of my favs

[torn grail]

I can see that for sure

It's really good

[torn grail]

Bro this is literally just fox hollow knight

Masks are leaves, you can pogo (on that yellow lamp), there are little leaf guys you need to save (grubs)

And you can attack ofc

So far from the 3 minutes I've played Bo, it's rlly good

[tranquil plume]

you can also try nine sols

it's cat hollow knight

😭

[torn grail]

Yes please give me more hollow knights

[tranquil plume]

it's a little bit different compared to hollow knight, and I doubt the game is inspired by it but it's a good game for sure

[torn grail]

I want to experience as many metroidvanias blind to make up for using a guide on hollow knight

[thick mango]

The only correct answer is silksong

[tranquil plume]

the only correct answer is the silksong lace boss fight demo

[thick mango]

Truth

[torn grail]

Now that I'm a PRO metroidvania-er

Also you get the first ability in Ori very quick

I can't get past the second spirit gate tho so I tried out Bo

[torn grail]

Nine Sols

How much is it

[torn grail]

No fr where can I find that

I keep seeing someone play it

On YT

[thick mango]

How much money do you have

Omg

[tranquil plume]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/152jNqmo-UOM7BKoEVODD21nLIAxfXZq3/view

[torn grail]

"day something of lace fight until silksong releases"

[torn grail]

tysm

[tranquil plume]

it's kinda janky

[thick mango]

Dude is STACKED

[tranquil plume]

but it's fun

[torn grail]

Yeah I mean it's a demo

[tranquil plume]

15 usd I think

[tranquil plume]

I heard they also made moss mother but I don't think it's available for download

I haven't heard much of the project in a couple years

[torn grail]

Makes me wonder what the hell Team Cherry is doing if they had a working demo 5 years ago, do you think they might be adding so much extra stuff with no time limit and a big budget

[tranquil plume]

the base game is likely done from my speculation

[torn grail]

Yeah for sure

[tranquil plume]

they're probably working on extra content or polish (which they actually said the game was looking for a 2023 release but they had to polish things)

[torn grail]

I mean we're not in a rush for DLC so just like drop the base game and we can wait 2 or 3 years for a DLC

[torn grail]

ohh polish okay

[tranquil plume]

I think 2025 release is very likely

[torn grail]

Yeah if not 2024

I doubt 2024, but it might be possible

But 2025 is the most likely

[tranquil plume]

"I think (next year) release is very likely" said every silksong fan every year

[torn grail]

Lmao

[thick mango]

TRUE

[torn grail]

Just let us cope

[thick mango]

I mean like

Xbox said in 1 yr like 1.5yrs ago

[torn grail]

I think we might be getting close guys!! Next year is the year

[tranquil plume]

xbox literally just made up a release date lmao I don't think their word is good

[thick mango]

Unlucky

[tranquil plume]

there's gonna be a lot of game showcases before this year ends and next year too so

they have tons of opportunities for release right now

[torn grail]

On the microsoft store page Silksong had a release date of 12/30/9998

[tranquil plume]

I thought it would be coming later honestly

google translate?? buddy??????

oh wait actually makes sense

[torn grail]

Maybe my descendants can hopefully play Silksong, if the Earth doesn't collide with the sun or something idk astrology very well

[tranquil plume]

yea I'm pretty sure that's not happening for like billions of years but silksong might make it happen

the entire earth jumps in happiness at the same time and pushes the earth to the sun

clearly how it works

[torn grail]

LMaooo

Earth been coping too

I that read wrong

I thought you meant the earth jumps

Like the earth itself jumps in happiness

From silksong releasing

and collides with the sun

[tranquil plume]

could be

[torn grail]

lmao

well i'll check out nine sols

[tranquil plume]

it's peak

had to uninstall it tho cause I didn't have enough storage lmao

[torn grail]

Damn $30 and no deals

[thick mango]

There's an xkcd video about this

[torn grail]

I got both Bo and Ori 1 for $22, Bo was $16.99 and Ori 1 was $4.49

So $21.49 for both Bo and Ori basically

[thick mango]

Dude is rich

[torn grail]

What

$21.49 is rich yeah for sure

??

[thick mango]

Yeah

That's about it

[torn grail]

Is this a cry for help

[thick mango]

No

[tranquil plume]

yeah I remember it

[torn grail]

Can you afford your food at least

[thick mango]

Literally just "damn that's a lot of dough"

Yeah

[tranquil plume]

is ori on some heavy sale

lmao

[torn grail]

isthereanydeals

lets yuou see all resellers

legit ones

other than steam

[thick mango]

Like I'm fine but I'm very stingy w money

[tranquil plume]

fair enough

[thick mango]

Also 20 dollars is a lot in philippines

[torn grail]

ohhh thats right your philippians

[tranquil plume]

philippians is a word??

[thick mango]

big Mac index my beloved

[tranquil plume]

damn

[torn grail]

idk

[thick mango]

It's filipino the term

[torn grail]

like ppl in america are americans

so i said philippians

[torn grail]

why an F

if it's called Philippines

[thick mango]

The Greeks are greekians true

[tranquil plume]

something something history

[torn grail]

spartans tho

[thick mango]

Something something linguistics

[torn grail]

i might get nine sols if it goes on sale

[thick mango]

Thr Spanish are Spanians

[torn grail]

but for now at least im not looking to spend another $30 making the total spent in one day $50.49

[thick mango]

Yeah lol

[torn grail]

I'm "financially responsible"

[thick mango]

Also at least enjoy ori first

Pace urself

[torn grail]

Yeah yeah

One at a time

[thick mango]

Do not the backlog

My backlog is so bad rn

[tranquil plume]

I'd recommend playing through games one by one instead of buying multiple at once just to leave them to rot is what I would say if y'all didn't say it while I was typing this

[torn grail]

Yeah uh I have a habit of binge playing

Or like casual speedrunning ig

idk the term

[tranquil plume]

I just buy games I know I'll be addicted to for years so I never have to buy a game again

[torn grail]

Lmao

[hallow fiber]

Nine Sols is less Hollow Knight-ish and more like 2D Sekiro (which is basically Dark Souls with parries as main focus instead of dodging)

[torn grail]

hollow knight is dark souls

[tranquil plume]

hollow knight is NOT dark soull,,,,,,,,,,,

[torn grail]

its similar

[tranquil plume]

Hell no

[torn grail]

in terms of design

[tranquil plume]

😭

[torn grail]

and difficulty

i mean the main guy is a hollow knight and u got a guy called grimm

[tranquil plume]

difficulty is subjective but ya

[hallow fiber]

HK and Dark Souls are both good games, but apart from vibe and some reference mechanics there isn't much similar

[torn grail]

why the hell is hot filtered

i dont wanna try and bypass but i was just saying grimm is a hot character

[tranquil plume]

this guy likes grimm methinks

[torn grail]

https://tenor.com/view/grimm-gif-26059036

who WOULDN'T fall for this guy's thirst trap

straight or not

[tranquil plume]

this guy likes grimm methinks

[brisk snow]

I haven't played Hollow Knight but TBH I'm kinda glad for people who have that it's taking that long

If there's no signs of actual development setbacks for that amount of time then it must be awesome-

[brisk snow]

My backlog is like

two games

and I've beaten both, the backlog part is just 100%ing them

Well, actually, there's two more that are technically in the backlog but

I didn't really like them that much, so I don't feel obligated to finish them.

[loud musk]

idk man I don’t think I want my nightmares to be consumed by a huge heart god

[tranquil plume]

I want my nightmares to be consumed by a huge heart god and befriend him so I don't have nightmares

So ez..

[torn grail]

hes not evil tho

remember mr mushroom's poem

wyrms pull bugs into their thrall

till ages pass and kingdoms fall

[thick mango]

pray ffor me

[tranquil plume]

this dude has all the good games on the backlog

bruh

[torn grail]

and bros calling me rich

[thick mango]

wait ignore the hollow knight i just need to beat P3-P5 left

[thick mango]

this is why i'm brok ebtw

:clueless:
-# /j

[torn grail]

[torn grail]

i know it seems ive been making no progress but i played a bit

found a karma gate but food is SO far away

and there's lizard everywhere

lizards

if someone told me how to get those 3 berries under the bridge to the bunker i'd be very appreciative

idc abt "figure it out urself" think of it as me switching to monk difficulty for a bit

ill send a screenshot

in a bit

[torn grail]

and everyone said there's no shame in that

<@&1137895527271379055>

sorry for ping

[urban field]

Are you talking about the berries in IC?

[torn grail]

Yeah

1 sec

I'll send the screenshot

[urban field]

Monk difficulty is still different from figuring it out yourself xd

Just btw

[torn grail]

These

It would make life so much easier

Please

Cause there’s 3 more just 2 rooms left

Under the bridge on the left

[odd helm]

you can't get to those berries

[torn grail]

The berries are a lie?!

This is gonna be hell

Karma grinding until lvl 5

[urban field]

You dont have the knowledge for those

berries

[torn grail]

So I can get them?

I just can’t rn?

I thought you said no abilities

In this game

[urban field]

I think so, Ive never done it myself

[torn grail]

Or no new ones I mean

[urban field]

Yea there are no abilities
Nothing like a double jump or whatever

[torn grail]

Then how

Just tell me the knowledge

What if I make this face

You gotta do it then right

[urban field]

Even if I told you you wouldnt understand what Im saying

You dont have the knowledge for it

[torn grail]

Say it and I’ll understand it later

I like going back and understanding what people said

[urban field]

I think youll figure it out on your own when the time comes

[torn grail]

When I know what it means

Okay fine

Is it 100% certain I’m gonna know how to do it

Like is it required

To end the campaign somewhere

[urban field]

No not all

[torn grail]

Tell me pls

[urban field]

Its just berries lol

Even if I told you youd never really have a time where the knowledge would even be needed

[torn grail]

It’s needed

[thick mango]

Can't you just straight up not get them

[torn grail]

Literally right now

[urban field]

I have no idea

[thick mango]

There's berries in the room to the left

[urban field]

According to someone else you can but I never did it

[torn grail]

3

3 berries

[odd helm]

i think it's technically possible, but noone would actually do it surely

[thick mango]

There's a pop plant in the top room

[torn grail]

And I have to travel across the Oregon train

Trail

For the last one

[thick mango]

|||Maybe it's possible w the worm????||

[torn grail]

I changed my mind

Why go through all the trouble for 3 berries

What worm? What pop plant??

That’d be way harder I’m sure

Than just finding the last berry elsewhere

Even with the risk of dying

[thick mango]

I agree

[torn grail]

Any close karma flowers?

[thick mango]

Uhh

Yeah there's a lot of those in Industrial

[torn grail]

Is it random

Or nah

[thick mango]

Set spawn

[torn grail]

Like static spawn

Ok good

[thick mango]

Static

[torn grail]

I haven’t found a single one

So

I need some directions

It doesn’t count as food right

[thick mango]

Not counted as food

[torn grail]

Alr

Any near

[thick mango]

I'm trying tk remember the map lol

[torn grail]

Ah ok

[thick mango]

Uhhh i think so?

Just explore to the left

[torn grail]

Ok thx

[split laurel]

i remember 2 spawn point of karma flowers, each near a shelter

[torn grail]

this game sucks

oh yeah sure why not just save everything i do even after dying or hibernating so it makes finding food 2000000x harder

The game was already hard

It's like the game wants me to quit

Why make a bullshit change like that

Mid game

[brisk snow]

If you think the game saves everything you did after dying then you're clearly not experimenting enough

[torn grail]

It does

It REALLY does

I've died like 4 times

Trying to respawn those stupid berries

[brisk snow]

Well at least you've noticed that those respawn between deaths

[torn grail]

No

They dont anymore

For some reason

[brisk snow]

it's not instant

but they do

(it's an anti-softlocking measure, if you think about it)

[torn grail]

I gotta wait for them to grow back?? So I just get revived then and not get sent back

I always thought if I died it just never happened

I guess it canonically happens then

[brisk snow]

The berries thing is an exception, not the rule. Otherwise you could softlock yourself if you ate the entire region's food supply in one cycle.

[torn grail]

And map progression tho

And changes to the world

They all save

When I die

So there's no way

That I just get sent back

That spear from 7 resets/hibernations ago

It's still there

The one I lodged into the side of a small bump

To get to the left shaft

[brisk snow]

Well, sure, but you probably hibernated during that time?

[torn grail]

Thats fine and it kinda helps tbh but not the berries part

[torn grail]

wdym

yeah i did

but i died too

a lot

after i put that spear

[brisk snow]

The game saves when you hibernate.

[torn grail]

also what are those brown body orange eye guys

like they act weird

[brisk snow]

?

[torn grail]

they raise their spear at me but their pipe color is white

[torn grail]

idk

they look more unsaturated brown

[brisk snow]

Every creature is unique

[torn grail]

ok anyway

im back

so they're kinda weird

they just stare at me sometimes

then another cycle they just shoot at me

their pipe color is white

despite being brown

[brisk snow]

Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

[torn grail]

so im guessing they're like neutral enemies

[brisk snow]

I mean

[torn grail]

one of the tips said not all predators should be avoided

but idk how to like

have one of them help me

[brisk snow]

Use common sense. They're smart

[torn grail]

i tried helping them by shooting a spear at a lizard behind them once and i accidentally killed one

[torn grail]

do they want like food

im not good at receiving in game tips

like even the overseer 90% of the time idk what he wants me to do

he just teleports

when i go to where he wants me to go he goes to the other side of the room

[brisk snow]

If they're attacking you they're probably just as scared of you as you are of them

[torn grail]

womp womp i cant handle them

theres like 4 at a time at least

how are they scared of me

when they're teaming

[brisk snow]

(they're certainly not big enough to eat you, so)

[torn grail]

yeah but they can kill me

its not like getting eaten is the only way to die

i got monk

yay

[urban field]

Apply real world logic into why they would be scared of you

[torn grail]

i didnt have a spear on me

i just stood there

all cute and shit

like a regular slugcat irl

if they exist

[brisk snow]

In all fairness, you're significantly more agile and less predictable than a lot of other creatures.

[torn grail]

agile

lmao

maybe someone else playing as a slugcat

but not me

is it cause i was standing

was my 2 cm height intimidating to them

when theres 4 of them all 5x bigger than me

[brisk snow]

In the sense that you can jump pretty far and attack from a distance

[torn grail]

they can too

they have spears

and they bonk me sometimes

with blunt balls

is it cause im a survivor

and not a monk

if i was a monk would they be more friendly to me

do they remember what i do if i hibernate

like if i kill one then hibernate

[brisk snow]

Why wouldn't they?

[torn grail]

bruh

so thats why

how do i mend my relationship

i need desperate help

[brisk snow]

Oh, have you been bullying them

[torn grail]

no

i killed one on accident a while ago

in that one red room with explosives

first time i saw them

i assumed they were predators

and another time

when i was tryign to shoot the lizard to help them

i shot a spear point blank headshot on one

and killed it

[lime forge]

Level up

[torn grail]

like karma

does my karma have an affect to anything other than gates

[lime forge]

Getting notifications from a batfly, then turns into notifications from a monks

[torn grail]

oh

[lime forge]

[brisk snow]

Apply common sense. For one, ||gifting them things they can use might help, both because they want them and because (in the case of weapons) it shows you're not always going to stab them||

[torn grail]

so how do i drop a weapon

[lime forge]

Hold down + press grab

[torn grail]

also i think if someone walked up to u raising a gun IRL you would not think they were going to give it to you

what do the things next to the karma mean

like theres a tinyyyy karma symbol next to the big daddy one

the main one

and a bunch of dots

[brisk snow]

You wouldn't! Try to approach them in a non-threatening manner while doing this

[torn grail]

all greyed out except 2

white ones

[torn grail]

so crawling?

[urban field]

Do you understand how they feel now

[torn grail]

yeah

[urban field]

Id be terrified too lol

[brisk snow]

(The game tells you this in the pause menu. You should check it out, it's a good read.)

[torn grail]

i think its MAINLY cause i bombed one and impaled one butttt yeah

[torn grail]

i saw it in the tips when starting the game but i forgot

too bad its kinda rare to encounter the little monkey guys

this is like my 4th ever encounter with them

out of my whole time playing

the tips been saving me too

they told me how to slide

new ability unlocked

mothwing cloak

kinda

[urban field]

Oh, you have the Remix tips

[brisk snow]

Remix tips

[torn grail]

what does that mean

[urban field]

The mod

Remix

[lime forge]

Snailer caught

[torn grail]

im on ps5

[urban field]

QoL stuff

[torn grail]

i dont have mods

[lime forge]

It’s preinstalled

[urban field]

Remix comes with Rain World

[lime forge]

Along with a certain update

[torn grail]

oh

[brisk snow]

Remix counts as a mod, it just comes with the game.

[torn grail]

and how exactly would i search for some more mods

just so that i dont accidentally enable them yk

[urban field]

On Ps5? You dont

[torn grail]

oh

[urban field]

Mods are just on steam workshop

[brisk snow]

The only pre-installed one that isn't part of the DLC is Remix.

[urban field]

The only mods consoles get are Remix and the ones with Downpour

[torn grail]

that kinda sucks

[brisk snow]

(all of the DLC's content is in three other mods - Jolly Co-op, Expedition, and most importantly MSC)

[torn grail]

yeah idk if i wanna pay the price of a triple A game for a game that i dont even like rn

just for it to be a little bit better

if it even gets better w/ dlc

[brisk snow]

The DLC makes the first playthrough experience worse IMHO

[torn grail]

ok

so abt the monkeys

[urban field]

Dlc is basically Rain World 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, battle pass, sandbox, and Rain World 7

[torn grail]

anything i can do

[brisk snow]

Most of the content is concentrated in the new story campaigns (which you need to beat the game to play), and so the only real changes are spillover modifications to the map, which usually just make the game more confusing when you don't have the experience from beating the game once.

[torn grail]

TEACH

someone teach me please

[brisk snow]

wha

[torn grail]

i could get karma so easily killing whatever scavs are

[brisk snow]

... you can't take karma from scavs

[odd helm]

that's a different campain, which contains some pretty heavy spoilers and doesn't apply to your playthrough at all

[torn grail]

are they like a late game enemy

aw man

[brisk snow]

scavs are the creatures you were talking about before

[urban field]

Why are you looking in the dlc chats...?

[brisk snow]

scavengers

[torn grail]

Oh

YIPPEE

[brisk snow]

True, don't do that
Spoilers, everywhere, always.

[urban field]

Stop looking in other chats
Spoilers

[torn grail]

ig i gotta kill every one of them i see now

nah nah this helped

a lot

[brisk snow]

You can't get karma from scavengers.

[torn grail]

oh

[urban field]

You dont even own the dlc

Dont look in the msc forums

[torn grail]

can someone just tell me how to beat the game bruh im only playing cause i cant refund anymore and i dont wanna waste it

[torn grail]

idk what msc means

[urban field]

The dlc

[brisk snow]

More Slug Cats

[urban field]

More SlugCats

[brisk snow]

the DLC

[torn grail]

oh

alr

can i just enable that if i buy the dlc

an dnot the map changes

like are the slugcats easier

[brisk snow]

If you aren't having fun with the game then don't force yourself to beat it. That'll just make it worse

[urban field]

If you play just to 'beat the game' your experience will never get better

[torn grail]

like pure pacifist

[torn grail]

idc im gonna at least get some trophies on my acc

im not wasting a $30 game

[urban field]

To play the MSC cats means you gotta beat the game, which means you need to gain skill and knowledge

[torn grail]

dang

[brisk snow]

If you want them to be easier, you already have the Monk

[torn grail]

im not going thru allthat

again

[brisk snow]

... y'know, for some definition of "easier".

[torn grail]

plus the monk aint even easier

its harder

from what ive heard

[brisk snow]

it's not harder

[odd helm]

wha

[urban field]

If you enable the dlc you enable everything
No picky what does or doesnt change :p

[brisk snow]

some things are harder, some things are easier

[urban field]

It is

Its more relaxed

[torn grail]

like what

direction is harder but enemies easier? if so count me out

[lime forge]

Monk is made to be more laid back, but it’s not exactly easier

[torn grail]

enemies harder and direction easier? thats what i want

[lime forge]

Less stress, you could say

[torn grail]

i just want to know where to go

idc if it makes the enemies 5x stronger and faster and bigger

cause im smaller

[brisk snow]

That goes against the entire point of the game, none of them will do that

[torn grail]

and not a predator

[urban field]

If the enemies are harder and you cant deal with them, you still wont be able to even pass gates

[lime forge]

You’re not a predator as you are

You’re prey

[brisk snow]

The Monk does have a slightly easier time with exploration, since ||it's easier to raise karma||, though.

[torn grail]

survivor literally says its predator and prey

[lime forge]

The only thing below you is a bat

[torn grail]

when you start i think

idk where i saw it

[brisk snow]

Predator to bats

[lime forge]

Of bats

[torn grail]

so monk cant eat bats?

[brisk snow]

The Monk is in the same part of the food chain the Survivor is.

[torn grail]

and squids

[lime forge]

They can

Goodnight

[torn grail]

if you throw them

and ink them

i figured that out mysel

myself

i found a squid thing

[brisk snow]

Oh nice

[torn grail]

and i threw it

and it inked

[urban field]

Congratz! You did something that is intended, figuring it out on your own

[torn grail]

and i picked it up

and ate it

after i did that the tips said "some things or animals can be eaten but only after a certain condition is met" or something like that

[brisk snow]

(both the Monk and the Survivor have the help of , for what it's worth)

[torn grail]

do the tips track how you play

[urban field]

No

[brisk snow]

no

[urban field]

They randomly show up

[torn grail]

tell me more

[urban field]

That was jsut coincidence

[torn grail]

less food required to hibernate?

[brisk snow]

we could only wish they were that well designed

[torn grail]

or lowered karma cost

for gates

[brisk snow]

a bit of both

not a lot, but a bit

[urban field]

If only the tips were actually good

[torn grail]

they are

i got mothwing cloak

from it

[urban field]

You got knowledge

[torn grail]

yeah knowledge on how to dash

so thats dashing

which is mothwing cloak

from hollow knight

[urban field]

You got knowledge on something you could do from the start

Again, there are no abilities :p

[torn grail]

ik

also it told me how to swim

make snake movementsw

and it told me abt breathing

which i never noticed or knew abt

[brisk snow]

wait since when does it teach you how to swim

[torn grail]

and forgot until now lmao

[urban field]

When tf did remix actually give good tips

[torn grail]

idk

[brisk snow]

That's actually kinda nice...

[urban field]

Thats actually a good one, for once

[brisk snow]

Knowledge of a preexiting ability is equivalent, though

[urban field]

True ig

[brisk snow]

(I've never played HK please don't spoil me )

[torn grail]

it told me how to slide, swim, backflip, scavs arent all bad, how to drop items, and that light can be permanently obtained or something

idk what the last one means

i forgot exactly what it said

[torn grail]

u dont know what that is and you will only know once u get it so dw

[urban field]

Damn... remix tips really do be spoiling

[brisk snow]

The gates are the same, but ||karma is slightly easier to come by for a few reasons||, and ||you also get discounts when backtracking||.

[torn grail]

spoiling?

[urban field]

Telling you things when youve yet to reach a spot that would even be affected by what the remix tips are telling you

[torn grail]

ohh so u need like 3 food instead of 4

yeah idk theres no spoiling in that

which tip

the scavs one doesnt say scavs

[brisk snow]

Telling you which things were spoilers would point them out more

[urban field]

Not knowing until seeing it yourself is still spoiling cuz you know it exists

[torn grail]

it says "some predators shouldnt always be avoided and can be interacted with" or something

[torn grail]

the only other one is the light one

so its that one then

idek what it means so it doesnt matter

now i wanna know

how do i permanently obtain light

[urban field]

Youll figure it out later

[torn grail]

but like

isnt there something called liek shaded

[urban field]

Dont worry about it, you arent even there rn

[torn grail]

and someoe couldnt get through for 4 days cause they didnt know there was a light

[brisk snow]

If there was, we wouldn't tell you.

Don't worry about it yet, you have enough to deal with!

[torn grail]

true

man maybe i should just watch someone play the game then play it

i just wanna know the lore

and be like the cool kids

all caught up

like skurry

[brisk snow]

You won't have nearly as much fun playing it then.

[urban field]

Even if you knew it lore it changes basically nothing

[brisk snow]

Without having played the game yourself the lore is sorta pointless, too.

[torn grail]

like skurry said something abt pink five pee would have a fursona or something then a gray five pee would think its gross or something idk

and five pee is like a robot right

with antennas

i saw the hollow knight skin

skurry used it in a rando once and talked a lot abt it

[brisk snow]

(the game is what makes it interesting)

[torn grail]

OH

i almost forgot

another overseer showed u[

up

it was light blue

[brisk snow]

Oh, neat

[torn grail]

and the yellow one was with ti too

it was both

still useless tho

but what does it mean

[brisk snow]

Why would you assume is the only one of its kind

[torn grail]

did i fail too hard i need an extreme helper and even the extreme helper isnt enough to help me

whats next a red overseer

that tells me how to beat the game

and yet i'd still not know how

[brisk snow]

TBH I think you're doing fine

[torn grail]

cause thats normally how it is

tutorial helper guys

[brisk snow]

Rain World is not normal.

[torn grail]

true

its harder than dark souls

easily

[brisk snow]

A little tip: you are not special. The world does not revolve around you, and there aren't creatures that exist solely to help you

[urban field]

Ive never played dark souls

I would probably find dark souls harder than rain world

[brisk snow]

Me neither.

[torn grail]

yeah i noticed that when it didnt always show up every cycle

[urban field]

I have played monster hunter world if thats any correlation with dark souls

[torn grail]

i have 16h on the game

[brisk snow]

But from what I've heard, yeah, I think I would find Dark Souls a lot harder. The challenge in each is from different sources, so they're not comparable.

[torn grail]

normal completion time and im still at the first world past the tutorial

even with heavy help

[urban field]

The thing is both games have a learning curve and you cant just barrel through it without learning the curve and expect to beat the game like that

[urban field]

Yea seems pretty average imo

[brisk snow]

Rain World is a slow-paced game, I don't think that's bad at all.

The more time you spend there, the more you'll learn

[torn grail]

one guy in another first playthrough forum went from industrial complex to looks to the moon in like 2 hours

im assuming thats late game

or something

[urban field]

Stop looking at forums that arent even your

Stop looking at other forums

[torn grail]

no it helps me be motivated

[brisk snow]

Stop looking in other forums, you'll get spoiled

[urban field]

Focus on your own gameplay

[torn grail]

to play

okay at least tell me this

[urban field]

If you look at how fast other people are going with their own experience with the game youll only make yourself feel worse

[torn grail]

is the gate im at going to Looks to the Moon

[urban field]

We cant tell you that

[torn grail]

no u need to

cause then it will motivate me to unlock it

[urban field]

You can cross the gate and learn where it leads you yourself

[torn grail]

i cant tho

the berries dont s[pawn anymore

[urban field]

If we told you spoilers on what eveyrhting is and where everything goes it takes away 90% of the gameplay loop

[brisk snow]

Being goal-motivated is working against you, I think. Too focused on keeping pace with what other people are doing, not focused enough on building the skills needed to actually do so.

[brisk snow]

You don't even know if that pace is good. Looks to the Moon could be a bad thing!

[torn grail]

oh

like a bad area?

[brisk snow]

not saying

[torn grail]

optional area

okay now i dont wanna go there

[urban field]

Being focused on a goal actually hinders you greatly in RW
There was a study similar to this used on RW playtesters even

[torn grail]

so im just supposed to willy nilly my way everywhere ignoring the gate taking god knows how long until i find another one

[brisk snow]

yes

[urban field]

Yes

[torn grail]

bro

why would i leave a gate that im close to

what if its the only one

[urban field]

Finding food

[torn grail]

no not what i meant

[brisk snow]

The desire to get "further in the game" is going to lead to you bashing your head into walls, not even knowing if they're the right ones (they probably aren't)

[torn grail]

ok so clearly this was a game designed for masochists 😭

[brisk snow]

I can say that it is not the only one. This is an open-world game - even if you couldn't find any other gates in the Industrial Complex that you liked, you could find more in Outskirts.

[urban field]

About that study I mentioned

[torn grail]

im just gonna get through the gate and get back to you in like 30 hours when i get through it

[brisk snow]

And none of them are dead ends.

[urban field]

It was found out that players that took their time to learn the game did significantly better than players who tried rushing through it because they played games before and expected it to go a certain way

[torn grail]

yeah garbage wastes but thats a beginner trap from what ive heard

[urban field]

See, spoilers

[torn grail]

IC is the right way to go

[urban field]

Youre spoiling yourself and its making you not want to see what the game has to offer

It could actually be easy for all you know

[brisk snow]

If you want to actually make progress, you'll have to slow down, remember to breathe, and use your time learning the game. Once you get better at survival, moving through gates won't be nearly as difficult, and you'll find yourself going to new places in no time.

[brisk snow]

You don't know that.

[torn grail]

why would i willingly go to a beginner trap when i cant even beat a beginner friendly area

[brisk snow]

That's also not necessarily true.

[urban field]

You dont know what GW is

Youve never been there

You cant speak from experience if you have no experience

[brisk snow]

The game is designed for the curious

If you play with the right mindset - a healthy dose of optimism, and a desire to learn - it's arguably not even that hard.

It's sort of like a puzzle game in that way

[brisk snow]

The other important mindset thing is to not bash your head into a wall

If you've tried and can't get through a gate, leave and look for another one before spending hours trying to open it.

It's decently likely that there's another, easier one elsewhere in the area that you didn't see before.

[urban field]

Every region has multiple entrances and exits, explore and see if theres paths you can take that are simpler, if out of the way

[brisk snow]

Also possible: finding other areas that are rich in food and/or other resources, allowing you to get through the gate you know about faster.

... or just learning something important on that journey, and having an easier time raising karma because of that.

[torn grail]

Good point

Counter arguement

YT vids

Ez pz

Now u dont need to worry if u missed an easier gate

Or if you want extra hard mode

Use wiki maps instead

[urban field]

Youtube videos will not make you better at the game

[torn grail]

for HK it did

[urban field]

Neither will maps

[torn grail]

If I didnt cheat I wouldnt be as good as I got now

[urban field]

Okay but this is not HK

This is an entirely different game

[torn grail]

ok

whatevr

ill just play it

ig

[urban field]

If you dont know if you missed a gate, explore and see if you can find any yourself

If you cant find any, thats probably it

Watching is significantly different than doing

[torn grail]

stonks

i just traded a brown flower weed thing for a spear

from the scav

ez stonks

and i killed my first lizard

which gave me dragon slayer thingy

now ima see if i can help them more

BRUH

ONE OF THEM KILLED ME

I WAS JUST RUNNIING FROM THE LIZARD

I WENT OVER HIM I DIDNT EVEN PUSH EM

rip karma

back to floor 0

[torn grail]

so i got mad

and started a monk run

from the shown cutscene the monk chased after the survivor

right?

[urban field]

Mhm

[torn grail]

Made it to IC in 5 min

im so pro

[urban field]

See?
Youve learned and youre already moving faster :)

[torn grail]

dang hold up

i guess so

im already at the ceiling bunker for IC

now i just need to go right and then im already where i was 10 min ago

the map saves too which is a massive help

buttt tbh for this part i dont rlly need it since i never used it lmao

well i died but oh well

i had a karma flower

and im back

with enough karma for da gate

and karma flower actie

active

plus i got the survivor thingy

WOAH

I SAW A GLOWING ME

A GLOWING MONK

IN THE BUNER

BUNKER

IT DISAPPEARED

I see the survivor

and a yellow overseer

oh hell nah

shaded

im cooked

i dont have a light

wth i cant even get out

bro im suck

stuck

some1 help

i cant exit the entrance of shaded

music banger tho

<@&1137895527271379055>

[urban field]

You dont even know if its bad

Take a look around

[torn grail]

i dont have a light

[urban field]

You still havent seen it yourself

[torn grail]

i kidna did

theres like white flies

but i cant get out

theres a rope but a platform is blocking it

not a platform

a floor

[urban field]

Again, you dont actually know how bad it is cause you spoiled yourself and your too wotried about that rather than seeing if its actually that bad

[torn grail]

im under the floor

ok how do i get out

just tell

[urban field]

I cant just give you a direct answer like that

[torn grail]

no like

not shaded

[spring yoke]

look around, use your map if necessary

[torn grail]

i meant into shaded

[urban field]

You wont know how bad the region is until you look around

[torn grail]

out of the entrance area

[spring yoke]

the way out is a bit hidden

[urban field]

Yea map can show you little geometry places

[torn grail]

no bruh

the way into shaded

from the bunker

[urban field]

Yes

[torn grail]

oh

[urban field]

The map cares not for your silly lighting

[torn grail]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i used the map

got it

its a hiden tunnel

hidden