#Old FP Guide Coordination [Archived]

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dusty jetty
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mhhh food

quasi night
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There is a thing called: empathy

verbal pelican
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i musn’t

cedar cedar
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dont i stole it after all

dark tiger
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shrug

quasi night
dusty jetty
cedar cedar
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because they want something to happen

dusty jetty
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I'm glad my first playthrough I ate the neurons

dark tiger
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its a game that teaches you to experiment by either throwing or putting it in your mouth like a toddler

dusty jetty
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I made sure to ask for forgiveness once I understood tho

dark tiger
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you get led to a dead end and there is something interactable. its pretty reasonable to assume it does something

cedar cedar
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and honestly iggy is kinda obtuse here

quasi night
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Iggy SENDS YOU DEATH THREATS

cedar cedar
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not that part

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but like

quasi night
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BRO PUTS AN X OVER YOU

cedar cedar
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people dont know that the something they have to do is literal turn around

dark tiger
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iggy can shove it

radiant night
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this is similar to asking why i am so emotionless when i am playing cod or soemthing

cedar cedar
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“see this thing i led you to? do not interact with it, at all”

radiant night
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also moon doesnt outright say you are killing her

cedar cedar
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you dont even get new directions until you backtrack

dark tiger
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"why did you eat that innocent batfly??" bro im hungry

radiant night
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unless you got the mark first

quasi night
dusty jetty
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(why would we be 🥹)

radiant night
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also iggy doesnt always trigger properly

dusty jetty
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but yeah, I hardly ever figure out stuff on a first playthrough, Iggy isn't necessarily very clear

quasi night
dusty jetty
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also food 😋😋 and tbh getting glow earlier really helped in shaded

quasi night
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I forget if Moon’s screams work

dusty jetty
quasi night
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With the screams it’s hopefully clearer that something’s bad

dusty jetty
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some mod fixes that

cedar cedar
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i’m kinda sad how few people seem to think of carrying a neuron to moon though

radiant night
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<@&820300878035943457>

dusty jetty
cedar cedar
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well my point is moreso

dark tiger
cedar cedar
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people definitely like to wonder “why is this thing leading me to a place? what does it want me for?”

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but then the outskirts to lttm portion passes and they completely forget about that question

verbal pelican
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SKRAMPLE

cedar cedar
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like theyll get the 5p instructions, will probably give lttm another visit, but thats about it

radiant night
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who taught them piano

verbal pelican
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me

cedar cedar
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feels like every neuron delivery is bc comments prompt one

verbal pelican
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lumpers

desert relic
quasi night
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. . .

dark tiger
quasi night
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THEY’RE SPECIFICALLY TRYING TO EAT ALL OF THEM???

cedar cedar
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well

quasi night
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Y’know, this is a pretty apt comparison

proven wasp
# quasi night

Remind them they are just a wild animal, who did the natural thing upon seeing so much yummy food

cedar cedar
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they dont seem particularly interested if theyre just going to go oh well ill look at the wiki which i have bookmarked anyway

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oh joking apparently

proven wasp
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Genuine question

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how did they mix a bomb with a karma flower

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and get a firecracker from it

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i am genuinely so damm confused

cedar cedar
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the firebug egg explodes on a delay

proven wasp
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but

cedar cedar
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the big super bomb requires two crafting steps

proven wasp
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doesn't bomb + karma flower craft you a singularity bomb

cedar cedar
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the firebug egg is what becomes the rarefaction bomb thing

proven wasp
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OOOOOOO i see

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i genuinely didn't know that

green shoal
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Yeah that's what I see

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*did

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That's just evil!

quasi night
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Bro’s about to go attack a leviathan

crude jetty
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Spearfishing time.

grave token
crude jetty
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Stolen Enlightment was the last achievement I got out of Vanilla + Downpour. saintpensive

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Even after the expeditions and challenge 70.

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I'm a big softie.

fierce wyvern
quasi night
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The only reason I have Stolen Enlightenment at all is because I did <@&1305978131852824677>, and as I've mentioned, I didn't eat it

crude jetty
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I would like to mess with some of the challenges sometime, but first I kinda wanna fool around with some more advanced move techs and vanilla exploits.

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I never tried batspearing before and kinda wanna see what that looks like, for example. monksilly

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And I still need to get the hang of the eihop. I can't pull it off yet.

green shoal
quasi night
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Yeah I'm using an unused save slot for all my challenge stuff

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Though I accidentally started my Watcher 1.5 save on that slot too so guess I'll have to figure something out for that if/when I do Watcher challenges-

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Does that count as Watcher content...? hunterthinking

green shoal
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I deleted just in case

quasi night
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I would say yes...? But it's close to as little as you could possibly say

green shoal
quasi night
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Is it... is it fine to tell someone they are able to bring tamed lizors through gates?

desert relic
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ithink so

quasi night
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Well I already did monksilly

proven wasp
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Hey is it EVEN POSSIBLE to make tamed lizards not attack scavs on console?

sour bear
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If you can make mods work on console

quasi night
proven wasp
proven wasp
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Triplespawn glitch?

tranquil mulch
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doubt tripling, that one pretty much can only be done intentionally

proven wasp
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Oh okay

tranquil mulch
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could be doubling if they have vanilla exploits enabled and have starved

proven wasp
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I'll check

tranquil mulch
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would need to double-check if that's not just standard spawning though

proven wasp
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Lizards come with passages right?

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i'm sure they do but i don't wanna mess up

quasi stirrup
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yeah monksillymidsilly

tranquil mulch
proven wasp
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oh okay

proven wasp
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@silver musk Would you like to go to this thread and reassure Guppy here? (they just had to put down their cyan cuz it turned hostile inside shelter and they lacked the skills to get out and feed it)

silver musk
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wow

proven wasp
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fr

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too bad since it's console

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they can't even respawn it thru ID

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or even KNOW it's id

desert relic
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waht would yall do if a dp map was shown instead of the vanilla map? ive caught one instance and thought to delete the message containing the map and alert the person (and alert that its risky to use interactive maps)

north mural
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Delete if downpour rooms are visible

desert relic
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what about the regions on left corner?

north mural
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Yeah went and looked and indeed had to go cuz of region names shown

radiant night
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Anything downpour related in a vanilla thread other than the the names or appearances of slugcats should be exploded

quasi night
desert relic
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i think a .repost but not sure about the title

desert relic
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(because after all not an experienced felper so need help from other fellows hunterteehee)

grave token
desert relic
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god damn

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this makes this ping obsolete now monkwallwail

grave token
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I'm evil what can I saymonksilly

desert relic
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what about the title? i mean it can mean something else out of context

grave token
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I'd... honestly say the title is fine? It could imply many things and without any context it's fine imo

desert relic
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yeah

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laziest felper asking help from the smarter felpers EnotTeehee /silly

grave token
desert relic
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🥹

verbal pelican
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isn’t the outlaw visiblefrom steam achievements

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it’s not even a hidden achievement

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it’s probably fine, very minor spoiler that is unlikely to do anything at all without context

modern harness
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A- sorry I was busy lol

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Yeah idk
It might be fine? Without content it doesnt rlly give much of anything away

quasi night
proven wasp
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@quasi stirrup did ya just call me ani?

New nickname for me, never been called that before, how'dya come up with it? lizgreenhmm

verbal pelican
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wuh

proven wasp
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Oh nvm it's seven prancing lizard xD

proven wasp
# verbal pelican wuh

I sent dialogue and thought rattuse was talking about my hints, not seven prancing lizard's

verbal pelican
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ground

proven wasp
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o

verbal pelican
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this one is looking at pet rock

proven wasp
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Fire

proven wasp
quasi stirrup
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ani cyansilly

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yeah that's ani

quasi stirrup
silver musk
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here's the artist

radiant night
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wiggly

hoary verge
hoary verge
quasi night
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Spearmaster:

cedar cedar
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oh my god come on

dark reef
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im not sure but im taking the guess on they are refering to slugpups

quasi night
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That's what I thought too, but...

quasi night
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This is one of my biggest complaints about Spearmaster

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The other campaigns ingrain into you that you need to go to Pebbles to get the Mark

cedar cedar
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disagree

quasi night
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But in Spearmaster you have to go to Moon for that and you miss dialogue rivboowomp

cedar cedar
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its not particularly interesting dialogue

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theres a cool bait and switch to it

quasi night
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I like it rivboowomp

cedar cedar
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getting ragdolled by angry god dude throwing a tantrum

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who cant even be bothered to tag you

quasi night
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Also makes far more sense than just Pebbles saying NOTHING and kicking you out

cedar cedar
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? he still talks

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it is sped up thou

quasi night
cedar cedar
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it makes sense enough

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he gets an email

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he gets rly mad

quasi night
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Maybe I'm just in the minority for liking the Pebbles Spearmaster dialogue, IDK-

cedar cedar
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youre not

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every single spearmaster playthrough ever gets backseated into going moon first

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so im going to take my rare lets go to 5p first run

quasi night
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I'm resisting the urge very hard to say something to get it in Ollie's mind to check on Moon-

cedar cedar
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i mean you can do that

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but what are you gonna do if he gets stuck in garbage wastes monksilly

sour bear
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its a great dialog though, pebbles as spearmaster

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there are no heroes or villains in rain world

frozen hatch
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scavengers would likely disagree

sour bear
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oh good point - scavengers are all evil

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thats the only exception

frozen hatch
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aw

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scavengers ,...,,,,...,.,. are afraud of artificer likely

sour bear
frozen hatch
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no!!!!1 scavenger are very nice and lovely porl lovers

quasi night
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I said I am resisting it rivboowomp

teal timber
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@crude jetty don't say too much now rivowo

crude jetty
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Not saying much.

teal timber
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not enough to be bad but be careful

crude jetty
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Oki.

eternal jackal
tranquil mulch
eternal jackal
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And iirc they also let you keep spears during combat

quasi night
grave token
quasi night
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Ok Depths without karma 10 might be the only case where this is false-

(Assuming death/quitting out doesn't count as ending the softlock)

north mural
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Getting brutalised by guardians is an anti softlock gourdmorning

cedar cedar
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does lizard instantly killing you in shelter not count

north mural
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There's countermeasures against it

cedar cedar
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the pacify effect is extremely unreliable

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it can body block you and also bite you basically frame 1

north mural
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Happened to me a couple days ago with a green, it lay there like dead for a long while

cedar cedar
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if youve got no spears or rocks, no defense

quasi stirrup
cedar cedar
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when

quasi stirrup
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they now get stunned dead i'm pretty sure

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like a few weeks ago maybe

cedar cedar
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oh there it is

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"tweaked" hmm

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hope theres cool bro tldr lorw

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or randi moth whoever feels like sharing cool gamer trivia...... monksilly

tranquil mulch
quasi night
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Fair

quasi night
north mural
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Yeah (l avoid em) lizredsmile

quasi night
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Yeah, I just know them because they're simple enough for my brain to understand and use consistently

quasi night
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I can't do fast pole climb fast, but I can cancel out the delay from jumping up poles

quasi night
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#1482333900398268437 message
And the answer is... YEEEEES! Thank you for playing... Will They Eat Moon! Tune in next time to see who unknowingly commits an atrocity next!

grave token
north mural
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I'd say a significant gain

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But at what cost

quasi night
grave token
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There is no cost only foodwatcherpopcorn

teal timber
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@drowsy kernel #1482445378241564753 message Don't say that lizblueblep They're not near water, they don't need to know. And it's better to let them figure it out anyhow.

forest flax
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somebody can go ahead and delete that

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i doubt hes seen it yet

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dude hasnt been online in the past forever anyway

quasi night
teal timber
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thanks

quasi stirrup
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echos mainly, but also being aware of some mechanics of items and such yeah

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creature and item names, flashbangs blinding creatures, needing more karma to get past them

quasi night
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Yeah

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I think they discovered Echoes on their own, actually, but I'd have to look through again to confirm that and I don't feel like doing that now, so... monksilly

proven wasp
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All of these check out lizgreengaming (except maybe the 1st)

cedar cedar
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im wondering, are the gravity generators that are normally fluctuating harder to escape from or no

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like theyre not designed to be escapeable

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this feels like a pretty big room

quasi night
grave token
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That is very commonhuntersip

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Assuming the "water zone" is DShunterkek

fierce wyvern
grave token
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Ah I sea

dark reef
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(and used it in survivor to get to the end lol)

crude jetty
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Out of all the places to passage to... They went quite far back. saintpensive

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Seems like Ollie made it to Pebbles as Spearmaster.

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That iterator was not in a good mood.

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It's particularly confusing when you don't go to Moon first in this case.

cedar cedar
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does 5p kick you out of the room

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like youre forced through the transition i mean

crude jetty
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Usually yes. Very angrily, but he kicks you out.

cedar cedar
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or did ollie get stuck on collision

crude jetty
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And if you go back inside, even a single time, he kills you without a word.

cedar cedar
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or just not think about leaving and then he got "instantly" killed

dark reef
# crude jetty

this time i finally learned my lesson and looked around the message before clicking on it lol

sour bear
proven wasp
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@north mural

desert relic
proven wasp
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Woops forgot

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sorry

proven wasp
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latest message

north mural
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What about it

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[Respond in the watcher coord thread]

proven wasp
quasi night
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There’s definitely some Pebbles/Moon encounters where the pin has been missed…

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But I don’t feel like looking for ‘em saintblep

desert relic
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theer was already a pin

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on lttm encounter

quasi night
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Y’know, I might be blind-

quasi night
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(About other threads, I mean)

radiant night
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Apply for felper isaac_grin

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We don’t have any actual guidelines of what gets pinned and not, it kinda just happens LOL

quasi stirrup
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you can always ping a felper to pin something if things get missed too monksilly

cedar cedar
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I wonder how many broadcasts tip you off that lttm hasn't collapsed yet without actually physically going there

proven wasp
cedar cedar
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a btw remember the impassable water tunnel room in the spearmaster intro broadcast would be cool too

quasi night
radiant night
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Feel free to pin anything as long as it’s in good faith

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with some examples listed

desert relic
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that mesasge needs to be updated

radiant night
quasi night
radiant night
desert relic
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its 250 pin limit not 50 now

radiant night
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@atomic locust

desert relic
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you will never see me suggest to courier because i open my dms sparsely (like once in a year)

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/j

radiant night
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/ticket

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A suggestion doesn’t need a response

quasi night
desert relic
radiant night
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Also I could just dm you answers if you wanted, I’m okay with that

desert relic
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oh yea i have you friended

radiant night
desert relic
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well you pinged kalum tho should i still do it

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why does the blue smiley have karma 10 eyes

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is it secretly saint or someting

desert relic
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i assume maybe

radiant night
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If it’s just for the pin limit edit you don’t have to, if you have more suggestions then go for it

desert relic
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makes sense

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well yeah apart from changing the images

atomic locust
radiant night
desert relic
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and update the image

sour bear
proven wasp
radiant night
gray musk
quasi night
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Makes sense monksilly

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What it seems like for Vanilla, at least, is that pretty consistently the following are pinned:

  • Moon encounter
  • Pebbles encounter
  • Ending
gray musk
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Echoes might also be good.

crude jetty
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And maybe achievements?

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Though there's a few of those.

quasi night
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Yeah, there's some other things like those that could be depending on the playthrough, but these occasions ALWAYS are

crude jetty
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Stolen Enlightment.

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Pin it so they always remember the weight of their sins.

grave stag
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sins? I don't even know what I did wrong

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I just ate food in the chamber

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which made me glow

quasi night
grave token
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Tastyslugnom

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If they aren't meant to be eaten why are they so food shaped?leditoroverload

grave stag
quasi night
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I can't remember which thread, but someone recently ate some despite knowing they were called neurons

Whyyyyyyy??? monkdesperation

grave stag
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however my certain gourmand runs are different story rivevil

fierce wyvern
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we need a mod where you can eat all of 5P's neurons and kill him, it just takes a really, really, really long time

quasi night
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'Cause eating brain cells like, kills you or something IDK monksilly

crude jetty
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Braaaaaains...

grave stag
crude jetty
crude jetty
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Tamsty neurons...

quasi night
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But y'know who does know what neuron means?

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Human players monksilly

crude jetty
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Although at no poing during the game are they called neurons, are they? Or at least not during your first playthrough.

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So how would anyone know they're called neurons in the first place?

grave stag
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... doesn't necessarily equate to fact that they would realise the significance, I didn't realize what I had done in my first playthrough before I saw certain clips explaining bit about moon

grave token
quasi night
grave stag
crude jetty
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I didn't know how they were called, but the moment I touched one I saw Moon panicking and shaking her head and making noises, so it made me feel bad and I dropped it. monksweat

grave stag
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I think I overall have eaten atleast thrice moon's braincells (on different campaigns/saves) been more or less journey >_<

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But I am evil anyways

sour bear
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Nnoooooo

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Moons already so sad

teal timber
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What are the requirements to double-spawn a region again?

eternal jackal
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Does Ollie know about scav rep at all

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I wanna say smth like “get some scavs to ragebait them”

modern harness
verbal pelican
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i thought it was enter a region for the first time and starve on the same cycle

crude jetty
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If you are fast enough to enter the region, then exit and enter through other karma doors, you can in theory triple spawn the region.

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But it's really tricky since it's such a long way in most cases.

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There was one challenge about triple spawning Chimney though, right?

quasi stirrup
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yeah, <@&1305977440987775047>

gray musk
sour bear
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i remember that.... omg

gray musk
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What do you think, how long will Cas remain a legend?

crude jetty
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One question I have about double spawning though. If you enter a region for the first time, then exit again and starve outside of the region, does it still get double spawned? Or does the starvation hibernation need to happen within the region itself?

forest flax
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i think you must starve inside of the region, if you starve outside of it then you aren't loading anything about the region twice

tranquil mulch
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but what causes it is loading creatures several times while none are saved

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and creatures are loaded when the region is loaded, which happens when you either start a cycle inside of it or cross a gate into it

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or some other very specific instances (e.g. warping to Rubicon)

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if you starve in a different region and don't re-enter, you only load the creatures once in that cycle, from the time you originally entered it

desert relic
forest flax
north mural
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Lmao

forest flax
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thank you sarc

quasi night
quasi night
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#1474555235925229732 message
I've successfully made Ollie think that spoiler about Looks to the Moon in Spearmaster was referring to Waterfront Facility sloggers

cedar cedar
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i was thinking of this room

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its insanely mean as spearmaster

crude jetty
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Should we tell Ollie about the "wiggle to break free from grasps" mechanic in the settings? monkcurious

cedar cedar
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does it apply to eels

crude jetty
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I think so, yeah.

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Applies to leeches and DLL tentacles.

cedar cedar
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its a fairly explicit spoiler

proven wasp
cedar cedar
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just accidentally revealed that there was something at lttm

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it was like "the 5p and lttm areas were hell in spearmaster"

quasi night
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I successfully made Ollie interpret that as Waterfront... and it seems to be truer than expected slugempty

cedar cedar
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i imagine if ollie sees waterfront he's gonna pick up on there being something weird with lttm by now anyway

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like, hmmm

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its very

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not destroyed huh

crude jetty
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I don't think Ollie has been to Moon as Arti. He thinks Spearmaster takes place after Arti.

cedar cedar
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you cant go to moon as arti

crude jetty
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Correct.

crude jetty
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But he hasn't tried to go to Moon as Arti. monksilly

cedar cedar
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huh? no he did, didnt he

crude jetty
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Oh he did?

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Maybe I missed it then.

cedar cedar
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kinda, halfheartedly maybe

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he got his butt kicked in waterfront or something i forgot

fierce wyvern
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he found the broken entrance but didnt recognize it as a broken entrance into moon

cedar cedar
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nah he did but i want him to see the same room and at least make the realization yk

sacred fox
cedar cedar
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nah i dont

quasi night
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It was Ray

sacred fox
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There are some people in that thread who've gotten multiple warnings before so if it was one of those I'd make a note of it

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You're fine to ping that person in here to let them know by the way

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Don't be afraid to drag people into this thread, honorary felpers monksilly

quasi night
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Oh, have they not already been dragged into here before-

sacred fox
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Have they? slonkeyes

quasi night
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Well they apparently have messages in here so I guess so monksilly

sacred fox
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Yeah I see they have

crude jetty
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Huh. I guess Ollie nailed one of the proper names.

quasi night
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Oh too late-

crude jetty
quasi night
quasi night
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Guys... does Ollie still have the pearl?

verbal pelican
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did they ever get it

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i don’t see the chest hole and idk if they’ve played enough for it to heal

quasi stirrup
quasi stirrup
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he ran around outskirts for awhile because he thought he had to return back to the outskirts outer expanse gate

quasi night
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He mentioned still having the pearl somewhere in Waterfront and then mentioned loosing it, but I'd hoped he'd just meant he lost it for the cycle-

quasi stirrup
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may be worth inquiring

modern harness
quasi stirrup
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because the run is cooked if it's gone

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and knowing how frustrated Ollie was with outskirts not having any leads...

quasi night
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@fleet relic Be careful not to overshare monksilly

quasi night
quasi stirrup
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yeah try not to hint towards anything monksilly

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like there being more to the map

modern harness
quasi stirrup
fleet relic
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Mb

quasi stirrup
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yeah i think it's a good idea to poke Ollie about that...

modern harness
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Best case scenario Ollie has key item tracking on and itll spawn somewhere more accessible in the room

quasi stirrup
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he's in struts now is the issue, and moon makes no indication of its importance

verbal pelican
fleet relic
verbal pelican
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ollie is going to absolutely despise spearmaster once they learn about the pearl being required

quasi stirrup
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i really think he should be told about it

quasi night
quasi stirrup
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spoil tagged if he wants to drive himself crazy i guess

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🥹

modern harness
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Hes only gonna get further away from where he lost it but there is key item passaging too

quasi stirrup
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the thing i'm most worried about is he's going to get to moon and have no idea what to do next

verbal pelican
quasi stirrup
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and then probably be very mad he has to passage back

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i don't even know if he has passages...

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he's used quite a few already i'm pretty sure

quasi stirrup
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well better now than later

verbal pelican
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@fierce wyvern yuh i said properly because of that

modern harness
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Why did everyone immediately go to using dev tools as the solution 🥹

frozen hatch
verbal pelican
modern harness
#

Yeah prolly

quasi night
#

But this is the second time he's wasted time due to lack of knowledge, so...

cedar cedar
#

would carrying lanterns permanently count as a fetch quest...?

quasi night
#

Nah

cedar cedar
#

/s tag i think

quasi night
#

The lanterns are optional to carry, and there's nothing else that really has higher priority anyway

cedar cedar
#

i liked my lanterns

#

i dont know how shitty the cold is without one

crude jetty
#

It's not really mandatory to carry a lantern. It makes things easier, but it's not something you're forced to do.

dark reef
crude jetty
#

Spam the movement keys in a circle quickly to make enemies let go of you. Works with leeches and DLL tentacles, but little else.

#

It's not gonna break you free from a lizard maw.

dark reef
#

ok

cedar cedar
#

its most loose grasp type things

#

eels, tongues, tentacles, rot walls etc

teal timber
#

might I remind you that Looks to the Moon is an easy place to farm both Monk and Saint

quasi night
verbal pelican
#

ture

fierce wyvern
#

also with this whole Ollie and the spear pearl
they could do echos and ascension if they link them together

teal timber
#

I really think spoiling them on the pearl being required was a bad idea

#

we might have had to tell them if they don't figure it out after meeting Looks to the Moon's puppet, but that hasn't happened yet

quasi night
#

Well, what's done is done

teal timber
#

and the route of "explore to find the objective and then Passage to bring the pearl" is a better one IMHO

verbal pelican
#

and they had to backup

#

very far

#

guess we could have just asked if they did

verbal pelican
#

but stillllll

teal timber
#

if you don't have key item tracking on and lose the pearl, I think dev tools is valid

#

oh also

#

keep in mind that the pearl will probably turn up out of the water, even though it was lost in the water

#

IIRC Key Item Tracking moves the lost item to a pipe entrance if possible

cedar cedar
#

tbh my brain has fully internalised that spearmaster is a lost cause or smth

quasi night
#

@vagrant goblet You can read up on the pins in here for some Felper guidelines

cedar cedar
#

so im kinda feeling sheepish but still on team just get it over with

crude jetty
#

You guys think Ollie can do this jump with only pouncing?

#

I'm not sure if he remembers about throwboosting, or if he learned about it at all.

quasi night
#

I think you can probably just make it to the pole below the platform...?

#

Maybe?

cedar cedar
#

its technically something he "knows"

teal timber
#

I don't think that requires throwboosting

#

there's a jump in the Precipice that does I think

cedar cedar
#

i can never do throwless leaps

teal timber
#

give them some time to try it at least

cedar cedar
#

they always feel so pathetic

#

i think ollie could figure it out

crude jetty
#

It's been a really long time since I've been there so I don't remember how far a simple pounce can carry you in that section.

cedar cedar
#

if he remembers 5p physics

verbal pelican
cedar cedar
#

he found out about spear boosting there

#

i mean the story does end with "and then spearmaster goes home ig ok bye" ollie was just too early on the draw monksilly

teal timber
#

@cedar cedar IIRC key items just can't respawn in Five Pebbles' chamber
they get moved outside

#

like

cedar cedar
#

could it hypothetically do a funny and go to systems bus

#

and you have to go, ALL the way around

teal timber
#

I think for that to happen you would have to enter / leave through systems bus

cedar cedar
#

and then back again

#

ah

#

i think yhe 5p telekinesis is too strong to do that right

teal timber
#

the game keeps track of the pearl's most recent valid spawn area

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IIRC

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and Five Pebbles's puppet chamber is hardcoded to not be a valid spawn area so it goes to the room before that

cedar cedar
#

what about arti pearls

#

or is arti 5p a whole different room secretly

teal timber
#

I don't think those count as "lost"

#

they're their own thing

cedar cedar
#

well wouldnt it only count as lost if it despawned or something

#

or got stolen

teal timber
#

the game saves a list of what pearls have already been turned in IIRC

#

so key item tracking doesn't apply

crude jetty
#

If you hand a pearl to an iterator and they tell you "This pearl again? I already saw it.", then yeah. It's been read already. monkcheese

cedar cedar
#

:v

#

technically 5p pearl reading is weird bc it does the persistent save data thing

cedar cedar
#

huh is it

#

i mean 5p does still say i already read it

#

or something to that effect

teal timber
#

yeah I'm saying Philos was wrong not you

crude jetty
#

I remember Moon making a comment when I hand her a pearl she already read.

cedar cedar
#

its just incorporated weirdly" of inconsistently compared to moon

crude jetty
#

But that was in the same cycle. Maybe it's different in different cycles.

cedar cedar
#

to elaborate i mean pearls pebbles has read in a game over cycle

crude jetty
#

Ah.

teal timber
#

nonono post-collapse Looks to the Moon remembers which pearls they've read

cedar cedar
#

its like a leftover from the mark dialogue or something idk

teal timber
cedar cedar
#

wait omg its weirder than i thought then huh

quasi stirrup
sour bear
#

yeah i said that before i read the rest of the chat

#

🥹

#

and then forgot to send another message

#

🥹 x2

#

🥹 x18,027,104

dusty jetty
#

🥹 × √-2

sour bear
#

Imaginary 🥹

fierce wyvern
#

🥹 ^100

sour bear
#

Find 🥹:
74+93x√(π)-16 = 693^🥹

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@ randi moth

silver musk
#

@tranquil mulch

tranquil mulch
sour bear
#

Randi I have a very important maths problem that needs solving

#

And I'm not good enough at maths to do it

tranquil mulch
#

the logarithm is a bijection

sour bear
#

There's a log?

silver musk
sour bear
#

Idk what bijection means help

#

Is it impossible

#

We need a maths nerd role so that we can ping all maths nerds when we need help

crude jetty
#

Ez.

crude jetty
#

(I'm a maths graduate. monksilly )

crude jetty
#

🥹 is approximately 0.83.

proven wasp
#

@desert relic Oh right i forgot doxxerdoodle exists xD

desert relic
#

doxxerdoodle 🥹

proven wasp
#

frfr

quasi stirrup
#

@vagrant goblet take a read through the pins in this thread slugheart

quasi stirrup
#

oh

#

wow exactly 12 hours ago rivflabbergasted

#

wow i didn't even notice the messages in the thread were from that long ago 🥹 i should really not felp right after waking up

gray ruinBOT
#

circleCheck rattuse.

proven wasp
#

I'm gonna cry

verbal pelican
#

wuh

quasi night
quasi stirrup
quasi stirrup
#

not often i see first playthroughers experience lineages especially like that

quasi night
#

It's not actually too crazy a lineage, that one

#

It's a 5% for the nothing lineage, but then two 40% pole plants into the monster kelp

cedar cedar
#

pole plants are easy oneshots too

quasi stirrup
#

one...oneshot???

proven wasp
cedar cedar
#

yes

verbal pelican
cedar cedar
#

is not monk

verbal pelican
#

true!

#

idk what i was trying to say witj that messag

quasi stirrup
#

saint

#

exhausted gourmand

cedar cedar
#

monk did one push up and immediately lost the yellow

quasi stirrup
#

ripened

verbal pelican
#

i’d be a little concerned if a banana ripened to white

quasi stirrup
#

your bananas don't do that?

verbal pelican
#

mine ripen to red

quasi stirrup
#

do they explode

proven wasp
#

My bananas never ripe lizgreenfrown

#

Good color tho

cedar cedar
#

ok i get it stop hunterthising it already it was likr 5 million hours ago

proven wasp
hoary verge
#

Lol

quasi night
#

Hang on Ollie went up towards Luna instead of down to Moon-

modern harness
#

I mean yeah

#

Most players do that cause why would Moon be down when Pebbles was up lol

quasi night
#

Fair

#

I'm sure he'll notice if he goes around and sees the Vanilla LTTM rooms

hoary verge
#

TRIPLE AFFIRMATIVE

#

The solution has been found

#

The solution is portable

#

The solution is- kaboom

grave stag
cedar cedar
#

how did he not find moon

#

i was kinda confused by where he was and such

#

ig itd wouldve gone smoother if he remembered the riv rooms

#

well yk as far as getting turned around and such last minute

crude jetty
#

I think Ollie forgets vital information that could help him vastly reduce his playing time in his campaigns. huntersip

proven wasp
#

So what happened with Ollie?

crude jetty
#

He reached Luna, and the top of Moon.

proven wasp
crude jetty
#

Familiar territory after playing Rivulet.

proven wasp
#

Dang what a brainfart

crude jetty
#

He might have doubled back.

cedar cedar
#

i lost track of him again

#

hes halfway down lttm again monkwail

#

he's gonna find struts or something

crude jetty
#

Oh.

#

Could that be DM_I05?

#

Did he get to DM_Moonchamber, then instead of down, he went right at the top and entered the conflux?

#

And took the long way around?

quasi night
#

Yeah, he went around

crude jetty
#

I think he recognized the area was LttM from Rivulet.
But forgot that Moon was directly downwards from there. saintpensive

#

Oh well. Maybe if he ends up exploring the conflux, he'll come across Moon's lore pearl there.

#

Get something out of the exchange.

#

But Ollie sure has a penchant for choosing the most difficult paths ever, huh?

sour bear
sour bear
#

How did Ollie not find moon he reached the monksillying neural twrminus

proven wasp
sour bear
#

And then went back down

crude jetty
sour bear
#

I see

crude jetty
#

Last we know of him he was uhh...

#

Here.

#

Which I believe is DM_I05.

quasi night
#

@inland finch Please don't spoil Manic any further rivboowomp

#

Also don't backseat-

hushed flame
#

and uhh theyre not listening- rivboowomp

proven wasp
quasi night
#

Those two are apparently friends, and Fold is the one who got Manic into the game

proven wasp
#

Hmmmmm...

#

I'd have a more soft touch yeah

quasi night
#

@rustic schooner Don't use the word "can" with Ollie, I don't think he's been taught that Iterator terminology yet

#

(At least, I don't think)

#

Point is, don't risk saying it monksilly

tranquil mulch
rustic schooner
#

just a little hard to make sure

quasi night
#

I would err on the side of caution and assume he doens't know, at least

rustic schooner
#

i feel like if he does ask i can just say that thats what i usually call them [the same way ollie calls rot "the mass"]

#

though i dont expect him to ask

quasi night
#

IDK, I just wouldn't risk it, personally lizwhiteshrug

rustic schooner
#

why doubt my ways i've convinced people of things that make less sense than the truth [though in joking arguments with friends]

tranquil mulch
rustic schooner
#

ofc i do but by my estimations the risk is not too high

#

and the payoff is low but will feel high

hoary verge
proven wasp
hoary verge
proven wasp
hoary verge
#

Sill

#

This gonna be real useful for saint mmm yes

#

He doesn't know

crude jetty
#

He doesn't snow. saintsmirk

quasi night
#

@inland finch Just warning you again, please stop trying to backseat Manic...

inland finch
#

does he know?

quasi night
#

Oh wow, you came right when I said that monklaugh

inland finch
#

i already know

quasi night
inland finch
#

seems like I've been caught spreading awareness

crude jetty
#

The fun part about Rain World is discovery, and creative problem solving. Some players may come up with their own creative strategies that other people didn't even think of, and that adds to the richness and diversity of Rain World.

#

Spoiling and handholding can strip that variability element from the game and limits greatly what the players can do. It's not as fun when every gameplay is done in the same fashion under guidance. saintpensive

#

Although some players can get overwhelmed and frustrated by the open nature of Rain World, and may get frustrated if they don't get nudges in the right direction every now and then. One should adjust their felping strategy on a case by case scenario, though trying to err on the side of caution to avoid saying too much accidentally.

#

(Something even I fail to do at times. slugnom )

quasi night
#

hunterthis to all of these things

quasi night
#

They're supposedly friends, but... IDK

modern harness
#

Im just kind of tired at looking at that thread so @atomic locust help

hushed flame
#

Manic clearly doesnt seem to be enjoying it either

plush lichen
#

I'm glad manic has them blocked but....its...so frustrating cause manic seems excited:<

quasi night
#

Yeah, supposedly Manic just went ahead and blocked them, so...

modern harness
#

Who else are the felper snaffers

dusty jetty
#

I think it's better to ping all staff if necessary, not listening to helpers' request is rule-breaking. I gave another warning, hopefuly they don't spoil anymore

quasi night
#

Yeah, I considered pinging First Playthrough Helpers about it but... I get nervous about pinging people rivboowomp

#

Even though that's literally what the role is for

dusty jetty
#

if an helper doens't want to get pinged, they can just get their role removed

quasi night
modern harness
#

Let me know if they do it again cuz at that point I think it could call for a staff ping

dusty jetty
#

so jsut ping if necessary, we probably all wanna receive the ping

quasi night
#

Got it

modern harness
#

I havent followed the entire discussion but from what Ive seen Fold continues to spoil despite being told about it so huntershrug

atomic locust
modern harness
#

Oke saintunyoy

dusty jetty
#

@inland finch take a read through this thread's pinned messages please

#

comments like that still count as unwanted guidance that shouldn't be given unless explicitely asked for

hoary verge
#

@plush lichen I think he means inspectiors

#

I could be wrong thohuntershrug

plush lichen
#

Idk what inspectiors are

#

I think ik what it is but idk it's official name

hoary verge
plush lichen
#

Is it that weird yellow thing that looks like it wants to grab and eat u but it's actually friendly

plush lichen
#

Ohhhh

hoary verge
#

They can be many different colors I think

plush lichen
#

Yeah I learned the hard way that it's friendly, I shot at it, killed me

Then I went up to it and it didn't harm me

hoary verge
#

From green to blue to yellow to red (when angry)

plush lichen
hoary verge
#

Lolz

#

Random question, but what is the scariest creature in ur opinion?

plush lichen
#

In case i mention it again in his thread, Does Ollie know it's friendly?

plush lichen
#

Its okah, :p

verbal pelican
plush lichen
#

I just dont wanna accidentally keep spoiling him 😭

plush lichen
hoary verge
#

My Wawa ahh sent this assuming he beat hunter 😭

hoary verge
plush lichen
#

LMAO

hoary verge
#

XD

#

(hunter spoilers bc of the neuron)

plush lichen
plush lichen
#

.....im guessing there's smth worse than the flying metal birds

#

fear in my scug body

plush lichen
#

Oh...great monksilly

quasi night
hoary verge
#

But I'd say for me, giant jellyfish+ submerged superstructure OST just really gives me this shivers

quasi night
#

Also, wouldn't spoiler tag this normally, but it's about Ray's thread, so...
||#1473832557463339170 message Very funny to me that Rivulet is the only one Ray isn't naming, because Rivulet's the only who has an actual name in game monklaugh||

#

Don't click that one, Ray

plush lichen
plush lichen
quasi night
#

I managed to deflect a bit once he made it to Waterfront, if that makes you feel any better monksilly

hoary verge
#

Like me right now

quasi night
#

I don't monksilly

hoary verge
plush lichen
quasi night
#

Yep

plush lichen
quasi night
#

Mistakes happen, and there's not much you can do about it lizwhiteshrug

hoary verge
quasi night
#

We're only human (or slugcats, IDK), after all monksilly

plush lichen
#

Yeah slugwhy

#

Wawa

hoary verge
#

Yk

#

Fold

plush lichen
#

I....im so glad manic blocked them

#

Btw cosmic, u should help me name rivulet

#

I usually name my scugs

hoary verge
#

My pleasure

plush lichen
#

Yipeee

quasi night
#

Be different

hoary verge
plush lichen
#

Man nothing but danger here 💔/silly

quasi night
plush lichen
hoary verge
hoary verge
plush lichen
#

So I name...this slug

Arti idk

quasi night
hoary verge
#

What flavor do ya think he is?

plush lichen
#

Saint? Uhh...green apple

#

Sour green apple actually

hoary verge
#

Mint chocolate chip?

#

Lol whatever

plush lichen
#

St. Saint speaks to me

hoary verge
#

Anyway I think you should name riv yourself maybemonksilly considering I've finished riv already lol

plush lichen
#

Okah then :3

hoary verge
#

Wish I could help thorivart

#

Good luck

plush lichen
#

I might play a bit of soggy rat today, then Johnathan tomorrow

hoary verge
#

Who's Jonathan?

plush lichen
#

Cause I might be close to some type of ending

#

Spearmaster

hoary verge
#

Ooo

plush lichen
#

I named all my previously played slugcats

hoary verge
#

'Jonathan' mmm yes very creative/j

plush lichen
#

I gotta have some normal names, the others was, Squiggles, Cheese and Bacon

quasi night
plush lichen
#

MY FAULT

quasi night
#

Not in trouble or anything, it's just funny monksilly

plush lichen
#

Ik ik lmao

#

Farewell FP Guide

#

For now

quasi night
#

Ok, I considered filling out an application for First Playthrough Helper, so I decided to look over the sheet, and I can't confidently answer these questions lizblueblep

#

So yeah, that's not happening any time soon lizblueblep

plush lichen
#

The way i thought you had the role 😭

quasi night
#

Nope, I'm just probably the most active roleless-felper-

dusty jetty
#

very true

#

just answer with honesty if you wanna become a felper!

#

which you're already great at

quasi stirrup
#

if it helps to know, staff mainly considers your server activity and how you handle things even if your forum answers will be looked at too

crude jetty
#

Question.

#

If you bring a colored pearl (not Spearmaster's) to Moon on your first encounter, does the pearl reading interrupt her from giving the mark of communication or nah?

#

Out of curiosity.

modern harness
#

No

crude jetty
tranquil mulch
#

but yeah, if someone has never talked in FP channels ever, even the most well-worded application to ever exist won't be accepted lol

quasi stirrup
#

uh idk 🔥

crude jetty
#

Does Ollie have the Key Items on Passage option active?

quasi night
crude jetty
#

I don't think so.

tranquil mulch
#

it'd need to be explicitly turned off since all presets enable it

#

wait nvm

#

"Key Item Tracking" is the one enabled by default

crude jetty
#

Yeah, key item tracking I think is on byu default, but the one for the passages is usually off, from what I remember.

tranquil mulch
#

From chalver experience, I think Key Item On Passage is turned on by default, but it's disabled in Classic preset for sure.

tranquil mulch
tranquil mulch
#

Monk Extended Breath is no longer banned for RWSCs, but Key Items on Passage is.

#

And I'm pretty certain Monk Extended Breath is enabled by default.

#

(I'm pretty sure that the shortened breath is itself a glitch, but one that has existed for long enough to be immortalised)

crude jetty
#

Maybe, but I don't remember if Ollie has, at any point, messed with the Remix options.

#

And even if he hasn't, would it even be ok to tell a first player that's having a rough time in Spearmaster about the option to make the trip a little easier?

quasi stirrup
#

should be okay to give him the option since it still is completely his choice

#

player enjoyment is most important after all just ask and spoil

quasi night
#

He already had it on, apparently monksilly

eternal jackal
rustic schooner
#

im awake 3 hours after i wanted to go to bed free will was a mistake

quasi night
#

Like, roughly?

verbal pelican
#

broadcast doesn’t fire lasers at you

#

i wish it did

quasi night
#

Well, not damaging lasers, but the grub does fire lasers monksilly

verbal pelican
#

it’s not firing thrm at you though unless you’re a vulture

quasi night
#

Fair, fair

#

It's surprisingly close, but not quite accurate

dark reef
#

white lizards appear in industrial???

crude jetty
#

Yeah.

#

Blue, green, pink and white lizards spawn in Industrial.

#

And others can be lineaged.

hushed flame
#

that white lizard traveled pretty far tho lol

quasi night
radiant night
#

<@&1137895527271379055> <@&1387651053511770112> Hi everyone

Im pushing out a mini announcement about joke posts and cluttering posts
posts made just to joke around or arent related to the game should be closed + locked as they arent using the space for the intended purpose (also ping the poster to let them know). If someone is disrespectful towards you when doing this report it to @fervent lintel

Make sure posters are okay with having offtopic conversations and chains before starting it. The point of a post is to help someone or provide space for documentation. It can be annoying to some to have their post filled with random chatter and/or chains of emotes

*Posts that started off for rw help and have devolved into randomness overtime are okay
thank yous alls

atomic locust
#

rare mfpelpers ping

#

or rather mfpgelpers

quasi night
#

All 6 Modded First Playthrough Hel- Guides

#

Guides?????

lofty slate
#

not promoted to helpers ya see

quasi night
#

What do you mean GUIDES???????

verbal pelican
quasi stirrup
#

not a helper role so

lofty slate
verbal pelican
atomic locust
#

in first playthrough stuffs

#

because otherwise it would be confusing!

verbal pelican
#

helper lite would be really awesome

quasi stirrup
#

helper-in-training

atomic locust
#

there is someone with the role that isnt helpers

#

they asked in modmail

quasi night
#

1 person monksilly

quasi stirrup
#

i was wondering about that