Old FP Guide Coordination [Archived]

[quasi stirrup]

just the last one i think

the second was supposed to make him think back to the corpse because it is very odd and stands out at least to me

[cedar cedar]

the map thing i can kinda understand ig, if you go "well thats kinda general, that could be anywhere"

and not "im apparently not noticing somewhere i can go rn"

[quasi stirrup]

yeah i know he doesn't want too much of a direct hint

so i wanted to be careful not to imply anything

vagueposting

[eternal jackal]

I keep saying rip and tear until it is done

But he’s not ripping their flesh out enough

[cedar cedar]

stealth backseating how devilish

[eternal jackal]

To realize thats when he loses it

[cedar cedar]

try and be careful with that thou

[eternal jackal]

~~though my only responses to artificers existanfe have been that and 💥 ~~

[quasi stirrup]

i found some old hints i gave to another user that could probably be helpful as a reference if he's still stuck in 24 hours

hint one (about karma): ||maybe something in particular can help you with this?||
more direct about karma: ||something that's easily accessible in artificer's campaign...||
direct answer: ||scavs in some way will help you with the gate||

unfortunately ive realized the scav thing is either something that clicks within the first hour or doesn't for a very long time

[cedar cedar]

so it happens often?

[quasi stirrup]

not too often

it has happened a few times though

[cedar cedar]

to this extreme?

[quasi stirrup]

yeah 🥹

but

usually they google it after a certain point or just ask for direct answers

Ollie is very determined

[eternal jackal]

Say that maybe it’s based on how many cycles he lives and tell him there’s a nearby snack toll

Trust

[quasi stirrup]

you will gain a level at 100 cycles

[cedar cedar]

ollie is kinda tunnel visiony

i dont feel like he tries a lot of things i feel like he tries one thing a million times

[quasi stirrup]

unfortunately yeah

[cedar cedar]

also i dont think he learned arti cant swim he still thinks that pipe is boobytrapped or whatever

[quasi stirrup]

i saw that too

thinks the drone is evil

[cedar cedar]

i forgot does arti's drone do danger signs like the chieftain's?

honestly thats an idea isnt it

[quasi stirrup]

from what i remember no

[cedar cedar]

a permanently available overseer

that could warn you of off-screen dangers and stuff in the guys shooting you from offscreen campaign

[eternal jackal]

You get sniped more in other campaigns cuz of overseers tho right

[quasi stirrup]

but i think it does signal danger by having a red glow around it? i'm not really sure though and this could just be me being delusional my arti playthrough and thinking it means something when it literally means nothing

average rain world experience

[cedar cedar]

ive only noticed red glow when youre like dead but idk

my brain completely deletes the drone from my vision atm

[quasi stirrup]

theres danger when you are dead

or something

🥹

[quasi stirrup]

yeah i don't really notice it either

[cedar cedar]

my first impression of the drone was that it was kinda an ugly eyesore

it looks like a toy

[eternal jackal]

Almost tried to say

Maybe the true artificer was the friends we kidnapped and locked in a pipe to torture after consuming their flesh and ripping every limb off along the way

But thats too much of a hint and too random

[proven wasp]

The 3 saint fun facts were the greatest things ever for me this is so sad

[spare trail]

well thats the opposite of how theyre gonna figure it out 😭

500 more garbage wastes cycles

didnt she choose not to have them

or was that someone else and im misremembering

[quasi stirrup]

i can't find anything on her saying she didn't want them

[spare trail]

mutve been someone else

[quasi stirrup]

cas finishes campaigns once and then plays them again to investigate and explore more stuff on her own based on what she learnt

[fierce wyvern]

ollie's gonna get to cas's survivor playthrough levels of cycles on artificer in garbage wastes at this point

[quasi stirrup]

so some of the facts would ruin the surprise for her unfortunately

[quasi stirrup]

except because he's stuck

[proven wasp]

Ooooooo i see now

[grave stag]

wasn't that how we got out "1000 cycles hunter run" or well close cycle amount to that considering how many times cas did that run

[spare trail]

WE'RE SAVED

[proven wasp]

Thank you rain world update broadcaster

[spare trail]

Rain World: The Watcher v1.5 out now ! Fr

[eternal jackal]

Little do we know

The corpse was 1 karma

And he will need to figure out how to get higher

[quasi stirrup]

@dreamy cloud saying not to lose something implies it has importance

same with telling OP that she needs it it's not required to complete hunter at all

if she wants to bring the green neuron with her it's completely her choice

continuing the conversation here to avoid spoiling OP further than they might have already been

[desert relic]

[sacred fox]

When do we tell him he can make one

[teal timber]

That's the neat part! You don't

[sacred fox]

Lol

[dark reef]

oh right you can craft in gourmand right?

[sacred fox]

Artificer can swallow a flashbang to make a lantern

[teal timber]

And ||batnip|| to make ||a flare fern||

[grave token]

@eternal jackal Please don't send GIFs (or anything that hints towards) things that you don't know if the OP has seen or hasn't mentioned

[eternal jackal]

oh

[grave token]

(In response to this #1477181658913570896 message )

If you haven't already, please take a read through the pins in this channel

[eternal jackal]

i forgot pins exist

[grave token]

They contain very helpful felping info

[cedar cedar]

"spiders puppeteer your corpse to lure in your friends" is such a concept too bad its not real 😭

[grave stag]

that sounds something some modder gotta make

[teal timber]

#1477356589961973952 message Should we alert them to the riddles now? Or wait for them to ask for help? (or secret third option)

[north pivot]

Oh my gosh it’s my thread 😍

[desert relic]

i wonder what will be the next chat post

[quasi stirrup]

i would wait, because secret third option

but actually because since it's a planned thing for her i think she'll ask when she's ready for it

me when i press enter too early

[desert relic]

soreal

[cedar cedar]

does jolly coop character select ever happen?

seems like a thing newbies might do, choose a strong msc character with none of their respective campaign downsides

wait is it gonna turn out all those “moon wont look at the spearmaster pearl!” story bugs turn out to be this of all things?

[grave token]

They apparently used a warp menu so

[cedar cedar]

no but it comes up… semi-frequently?

[grave token]

Not from what I see..?

[cedar cedar]

ok tbh ive seen it at least twice

[grave token]

But I do agree it can happen kinda often, but usually people either a) don't think the SM pearl is important b) people don't realize they need to go to moon and then Comm Arrays or c) moon just decides to break or smth

[cedar cedar]

which is eyebrow raising at least

[grave token]

There's also the secret fourth option of people figure out what to do but the pearl clips out of their shelter

[desert relic]

i will still remember the cell casually disappearing from my shelter when i slept

and casually duplicating
(i had no other choices but to dev tool it back)

[teal timber]

oh those are the key item mites

they live in shelters and eat key items

[desert relic]

[teal timber]

very dangerous creature

[desert relic]

so true

they are so small you cant see them

[cedar cedar]

kinda a dumb tangent but

how far does the game go if you somehow force msc to load without remix

[desert relic]

msc loads alongside remix?

[cedar cedar]

remix is mandatory for msc

so how far (if at all) does it go before it breaks

[crude jetty]

Do Pebbles' overseers offer any kind of guidance, besidies in the Rivulet campaign?

I get the feeling they just look at you curiously but don't point you in any direction.

[cedar cedar]

i think they start pointing artificer to 5p if you take too long

then after a while they stop again

[grave token]

That was pretty quick

[proven wasp]

Spoiler spoiler on the wall

[grave token]

@uncut prism @proven wasp continue the scug drowning discussion here please

[uncut prism]

… RIP whatever messages I hadn’t read here, but that’s fine, probably a few hundred, I’ll just skip it xD

[uncut prism]

Why tho?

Staek has already beaten Downpour entirely

[grave token]

So that we don't spoil Staek

[uncut prism]

Not lore, sure

Which… okay, we won’t talk about lore they don’t know

[grave token]

Just because someone has completed something doesn't mean they have discovered everything

[dark reef]

why do i find the name interesting

[uncut prism]

But they’ve beaten Downpour, is…

[uncut prism]

I mean, yeah, I guess…? idk

Maybe then can discover stuff in Watcher but

Eh

[grave token]

Like how Ollie skipped HI and a few other regions on their way to SL, Ollie had no clue about the regions they missed

[uncut prism]

Ollie also didn’t beat Downpour

Or Vanilla

[grave token]

Still

[uncut prism]

Staek beat all the campaigns, Hunter included

I mean, sure, def missed stuff with how they speedran, but… they also played enough to get a grasp of the basics

[grave token]

Just because someone got somewhere or got to a goal doesn't mean they know everything, there's still a LOT of mechanics for Staek to learn

[uncut prism]

A lot of mechanics that you aren’t discovering on your own either, and more yet to be discovered potentially (movement techs, skips)

I feel like Staek is at a point in progression that they’d feel safe checking wikis and stuff, so it wouldn’t matter much concealing this

And if not, they probably wouldn’t be playing around much either to figure out a lot of the more niche mechs if they didn’t find out already, since they know what they’re doing and not throwing stuff at the wall anymore

Then there’s them not being interested in riddles either, from what they said

[uncut prism]

And this also means that concealing stuff just means locking them from exploring the larger world of exploration that even players haven’t figured out, just like most games. Techs and stuff are always being found, even years after the game is released

They’ve beaten literally all the campaigns but Inv, I don’t get why concealing this stuff is necessary anymore

[grave token]

It's kinda just a basic courtesy thing, like how at movie theaters they tell you to talk quietly and silence your phone
Some people HATE being told things that they could have discovered themself, and often felper guideline is "if the OP didn't EXPLICITLY ask to know something, don't explain something"

If that makes sense, I don't mean to come off as mean or rude

[quasi stirrup]

if it's not asked for then some still prefer to discover things on their own. and it seems like Staek still wants to play more rain world, if they ask to be revealed more mechanics that's fine but it's just not necessary rn

also... they haven't finished watcher

watcher is a big opportunity to learn more in my opinion especially since it's a big campaign

please don't push back so much, we're just taking precautions because once you share information to someone you cannot take it back

movement techs and niche mechanics aren't even something you need to beat the game either or need to be a good rain world player

[crude jetty]

Caleidoscope moment.

Also, he's about to get the next lore dream from Arti.

[uncut prism]

Fair enough

[quasi stirrup]

Ollie is going to enjoy rwsc propaganda

@dark reef some song titles have the names of regions and creatures

and some songs are very important to immersion like hearing Random Gods for the first time in five pebbles

[dark reef]

oh yeah

like that

[quasi stirrup]

silly reacts

[crude jetty]

White Lizard and Orange Lizard are music tracks.

[modern harness]

The Ride

[fierce wyvern]

Veiled Northstar

[modern harness]

North Star,,,,,,

[crude jetty]

Saw the dream, but missed the detail.

Should we tell 'em?

[teal timber]

nah

though, what detail?

they get their scar between the first and second scavenger attack dream right

[crude jetty]

I think they get the scar during their second dream.

Grenade pops, pup falls in the water.

And the explosion leaves the scar on Arti.

[proven wasp]

Yeah that's how arti gets the scar yeah

[teal timber]

really

I gotta check the dream

[crude jetty]

So technically they 'saw' Arti get the scar in the cutscene. They just didn't notice it.

[teal timber]

watching the cutscenes now, they don't have the scar in the second one even after the explosion

and their eye still works, you can see them blinking just before the camera switches

[proven wasp]

Eh i prefer to see that as a possible limitation on rapidly switching slugcat model rather than a actual feature

And in my game the camera cut shortly after the bomb

arti never opened her eyes or anything

[teal timber]

I don't think it'd be that hard to code

they could at the very least code the eye to shut after the explosion

(though that might just be a product of MSC being unpolished)

[crude jetty]

Lemme look at the wiki.

"The subsequent fight between Artificer and the Scavengers is what caused the scar on Artificer's face."

So the scar must have happened after the two pups died.

[teal timber]

I think it's just saying that

[crude jetty]

Must be post Dream 2 then.

[teal timber]

after they lost their pups they immediately - yeah

[sacred fox]

Please in the future, if we ask you to stop doing something, it is per guiding policy and server policy, it is not simply us felper's preference as to how you do something. We are more than willing to explain the reasons behind things but it does not make the policy negotiable by any means. If you have objections to the policy you can contact staff via courier or otherwise

[crude jetty]

Do we clarify the cutscene, or let him run with it?

[teal timber]

let 'em run with it IMHO

[crude jetty]

[sour bear]

#1351541291871109181 message this guy is so confusing its hilarious

[dark reef]

yeah...

[gritty peak]

Fr

[sour bear]

@gray musk uh tbh dont tell cas that yet maybe after watcher but like..

recently i became aware of a thing where the rain world developers dont like the idea of having "canon", and they instead prefer to have everyone have their own headcanons. Downpour might be different as it was made by andrew instead of joar/james/ect, but, still. i think in general i will refrain from correcting people on stuff like that because of this

if someone asks, i might tell them the pearl dialog or whatever, but other than that...

[gray musk]

It's not meant to be a direct denial, mostly trying to give something to think about. I'll specify it's my opinion.

[sour bear]

i do agree with that though

[spare trail]

but is a technical implementation possible

[tranquil mulch]

of note is that Orange Lizard plays in two rooms in a region with no Yellow Lizard spawns on most campaigns, but one of the rooms has a Caramel Lizard spawn and the other is directly next to a Caramel Lizard spawn

meaning that Orange Lizard is a name for Caramel Lizards

[spare trail]

also i feel like these should really be separate

though i suppose quadruple affirmative doesnt sound as good

[sour bear]

yeah i thought that too

[uncut prism]

Eyyyyy UTY in the wild

[uncut prism]

… I disagree with the policy (on a case by case, not on a general, basis), yes, but you’ll notice I do stop when told to? I didn’t say anything to Staek about the mechanics and stuff, was just explaining my viewpoint on this

Dropped the debate too, since it is a fair argument to make that not everyone likes to be told stuff like this. I don’t have a counterpoint other than “case by case basis”, and obviously I don’t have the right to assume my idea of what constitutes yes or no per case is correct for a larger server like this, so I dropped it.

[tranquil mulch]

there is an element of a case-by-case built into the guidelines, and the third one is pretty much an equivalent to WP:IAR
that being said, it is still pretty subjective :peanutbutter:

[silver musk]

on case by case basis I tend to ask people whether they want any kind of info direct or by hints

[uncut prism]

I am aware

I was debating with Stargazer on the specific case of Staek, but I notably did not force info on them, I was arguing that it shouldn’t necessarily be against the rules in their case. Could ask, but eh, there’s nothing in particular I need to tell them rn.

Tbh I’d like to drop this debate already anyway, it’s debating something that’s resolved - I’m not going to tell Staek anything spoilery.

Only reason I’m debating this is because I got warned (?) by Courier when I dropped a previous debate once valid points were made, and I assume someone took it as me being angry about it? Not sure. So this time I’m actually explaining why I said such, hopefully to avoid a miscommunication happening again.

I have never argued that the general rule is pointless, because I do see the purpose, especially for larger servers like this. Only the case by case differs, and I still follow what the Felpers say since they’re more experienced and thus know better.

[crude jetty]

Should we do something about that?

Maybe a bit too on the nose? Not sure if Ollie knows about that Gourmand ability.

[north mural]

I think he does? There's a tutorial anyway

[crude jetty]

There's a tutorial for Gourmand to drop on top of enemies?

I don't remember that part.

I know there's a tutorial for the crafting mechanic, but dunno about the drop.

[tranquil mulch]

it was broken until 1.11.5 or 1.11.6, not playing if you had received the starvation tutorial as Survivor or Monk previously

[crude jetty]

Huh

Well then.

[tranquil mulch]

one of the many infamous older glitches that got patched once I filed an actual bug report lol

[tranquil mulch]

1.11.5

[crude jetty]

Does that tutorial also cover rolling and sliding into enemies?

[tranquil mulch]

fetching the text of it rn

Combat and other fast movements will quickly exhaust you.
Try using your weight in creative ways to gain an advantage.

[crude jetty]

Huh. Handy that.

It implies there are creative ways to use your weight, but doesn't spell it out for you.

[north mural]

Tutorials for artificer maul and parry were also implemented

[tranquil mulch]

(it was the exact same glitch where they previously existed but didn't play if you had previously received the starvation tutorial)

[north mural]

Yep

[crude jetty]

Damn. Sounds like a rather persistent glitch.

[tranquil mulch]

it only affected three tutorials, one of which has a copy that did play as intended under different conditions

aka Saint hypothermia tutorial

[uncut prism]

Very neat

[ashen drift]

Rain world code moment

I vaguely remember seeing those tutorial texts before

[quasi stirrup]

if you are not sure on why Couri contacted you, i encourage you to ask them for more clarification
staff is always willing to explain things in more detail if necessary and you don't seem sure on the reason for why you got reached out to

anyway, in general, and not towards the Staek situation, the reason why halves brings that up is to point out some minor debate is fine but i have noticed a lot of push back whenever a felper advises you something may be too much information or not a good idea to talk about

[uncut prism]

^^; Fair, yeah

[sacred fox]

@heady flume it's possible they met pebbles then died, which means although the karma was saved the interaction was not, so it doesn't show up on the score screen

That's the conclusion I gathered at least, I don't have a definitive answer as to how that happens

(Also I did delete the message because usually here is the place to ask to avoid spoiling an OP (it did have spoilers)

[heady flume]

Ah, alright. Thanks

[tranquil mulch]

echoing after meeting FP (without hibernating) has an identical result

cc @heady flume

it's quite common in first Hunter playthroughs to meet the UW echo immediately after speaking to FP

generally if they know about the cycle counter, but either don't know that speaking to FP adds extra cycles or don't know that the extra cycles require a hibernation to preserve

[heady flume]

Oh, interesting. Good to know for my possible future runs of Hunter

It's tempting to skip the hibernation after FP visit to get the echo as well in a single shot

[tranquil mulch]

it's extremely unintuitive that it requires a hibernation to preserve and it smells kind of unintended in-code

[heady flume]

Yeah since karma 10 in other campaigns doesn't require that

[heady flume]

The extra cycles don't, but does the max karma boost stay?

[tranquil mulch]

yes

[heady flume]

Hmm

[tranquil mulch]

karma changes stay over on death (you can see that with the mere fact that dying drops karma by 1)

[heady flume]

Perhaps it should be patched? Is that a common complaint I wonder

[tranquil mulch]

made a bug report on that a few days ago

[heady flume]

Ok cool

[tranquil mulch]

probably will not be in 1.11.7 given that it's made after a bajillion bug reports were marked as Under Investigation

[heady flume]

Yep I can imagine

[proven wasp]

Hey do you happen to know if there are any bugs surrounding Oracle death quotes? (Stuff five pebbles is supposed to say if you die to the rot in his chamber as rivulet, though in my case dying to the rot doesn't trigger the quotes, you gotta killbind to see em)

I just made a report over it

[grave token]

@quasi night that's the TW-LC gate room

[quasi night]

Also I think this is the first time Ollie's met an echo without having the mark

[grave token]

[quasi night]

Ye

[grave token]

I just tried to get to this channel when I got a felper ping in a watcher channel that scared me

[quasi night]

I'm... I think approaching finishing Watcher

[grave token]

Thankfully I didn't look at the channel I realized it soon enough

[grave token]

You should join my thread /hj

[quasi night]

I don't think there's too much left I could be spoiled on...? But obviously I don't know how much new 1.5 stuff's been added that I haven't seen

[grave token]

Just don't spoil yourself

[quasi night]

Yeah no I'm not checking out other threads until I beat all of Watcher, don't worry

I probably hypothetically could at this point, but I won't

[grave token]

According to @sacred fox and a few other Felpers... I'm still on the earlier parts of watcher so

[sacred fox]

Yeah you are

[sacred fox]

What's your thread? I could probably tell you if it's safe to start lurking in other watcher threads

[quasi night]

https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1475563547521056801

[grave token]

Especially my thread

#advertisingmythread

[sour bear]

First time they met an echo without k10

[quasi night]

OH YEAH that too

SUPER not K10

@grave token Ollie's already used grappleworms as Arti and discovered that stuff

I remember because I was there for that

Although if that's still too much info... I guess it's fine

[grave token]

Oh

[quasi night]

Potentially my first mistake at felping

[grave token]

I tend to skim through FP threads so I probably missed that but-

No worries! Even Felpers sometimes felp wrong

[quasi night]

Yeah I know but a perfect record would be nice-

Is it still too much info even if he knows already? It was discovered around here: #1474555235925229732 message

Oh and I basically said the same thing already :#1474555235925229732 message

I need the reassurance and/or confirmation that saying that is/is not too much

[grave token]

Sorry I didn't know that-

I suppose my skim reading didn't skim read well enough

[quasi night]

So is it or is it not too much? Yes or no

[grave token]

I don't think so

[quasi night]

(Sorry if I sound pushy or something, I just want confirmation)

[grave token]

If Ollie already know, then it's fair game

[quasi night]

My perfect record remains unbroken!

[quasi night]

I guess Saint's funky eyes have now been spoiled via an emoji...

[verbal pelican]

good thing that doesn’t exist outside of inv dating sim

[quasi night]

Doesn't it happen when you do the ascension flight...?

Their eyes flash orange/yellow and blue?

[verbal pelican]

the eyes just flash random colors iirc

[quasi night]

Oh

Close enough

[verbal pelican]

or it flashes way too fast for me to tell and it all mixes into brown

[grave token]

Nah I'm pretty sure it very distinctly flashes between orange and blue

[verbal pelican]

please let this gif work

[quasi night]

Ok I can't tell, I swore it was orange and blue, but now, after checking, I'm not sure either

[verbal pelican]

does it work

okay it has the signature universe being torn apart thanks discord

you should be able to tell though i don’t think that’s orange and blue

[grave token]

Looks orange and blue to me

[verbal pelican]

taking screenshots at random times there’s some pink and green in there

as well as grays and yellows

[quasi night]

Maybe the flashing just makes it seem to blend to orange/blue? IDK anymore

[quasi stirrup]

there is color around their eyes in cutscene art

most noticable on the select screen after karma 10

[sour bear]

ask randi moth

[proven wasp]

It's a Disbelief papyrus reference

[tranquil mulch]

it's a uniformly random hue each time

[proven wasp]

Electric spears exist in vanilla?

i thought it was DP

[north mural]

They don't

But, art channels, not our department

[sour bear]

yeah electric spears are downpour

[tranquil mulch]

meme gallery, actually all helpers have perms there

[north mural]

Tbf don't we also accidentally have perms for like genderal channels or something silly like that

[And oh it's meme channel l glanced over that and just read "gallery"]

[tranquil mulch]

there was a case a few years ago where helper perms were pretty all over the place, iirc chalvers had perms over #rainworld-news (which only admins have nowadays, not even overseers/staff)

afaik perms have been resolved rn

[north mural]

Chalver gets perm to enter james primate's secret basement

[silver musk]

Hello! I was the chalver with perms in #rainworld-news

[tranquil mulch]

you should have announced Rain World 2

[silver musk]

I couldn't post... only delete

[north mural]

You should have posted uncensored sanshee watcher merch

[tranquil mulch]

?role @silver musk +anno

[gray ruin]

Updated the roles for exanimoso, +Announcements.

[tranquil mulch]

go announce Rain World 2 🫴

[sour bear]

Might as well announce rain world 635,935 while your at it

[tranquil mulch]

you mean 65535

[eager palm]

@tranquil mulch I think I found your bug report about Spearmaster's broadcasts

I didn't unlock the 7th white one because of it and going somewhere else seemed too much work

Can you tell me if I can still unlock it with grey broadcasts? I don't quite understand how it works

[tranquil mulch]

probably best redirected to the specific FP thread the guiding of which is being coordinated

[eager palm]

I don't understand :c

[eager palm]

nevermind

[cedar cedar]

#1472999883668455689 message so what do you do when youre like 99% sure the answer is super boring and unlore

msc not existing when the survivor pebbles cutscene was written kinda answer

[radiant night]

as in it should be discussed in your post or in the post of the person you are asking for instead of here

[radiant night]

ask if they are okay with a direct explanation or not

[eager palm]

The post is on akupara's website. I don't really use discord, I wanted to find them and discord brought me here. I didn't know threads existed under particular channels. But nevermind, that response was just rude

[tranquil mulch]

it's one less step to respond directly on the relevant FP thread the guide coordination of which is being discussed in #1270823904247546017 since, by the very purpose of the thread, the player whose first playthrough it is will not in the thread that coordinates them being guided and won't see the response here :peanutbutter:

what first playthrough thread is this about

[quasi stirrup]

you can also make a thread in #1019653041982537879 if you're having the issue and ping randi there

this thread in particular is for first playthrough related things and helping other people with their first experiences without spoiling them

[eager palm]

thank you

[cedar cedar]

#1474555235925229732 message off the top of my head, neuron deliveries, pearl purpose, uhhh

idk what else

[tranquil mulch]

hunt creature / gather item in shelter

[cedar cedar]

yea but stuff that spoils story-y stuff i mean

or mechanics specifically

it also expects you to know how to find echoes

ig it could reveal regions with echoes

[north mural]

I don't recall if ollie has read pearls yet

[quasi stirrup]

he has

it will spoil regions too

not sure about slug abilities but those are a part of the perks

[north mural]

@narrow owl (nuked because l don't think they know the name of neuronflies yet, just to clarify)

[narrow owl]

Right right

Sorryyy

[north mural]

No biggie

[dusty jetty]

https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1478503907830267975 this title is fine yeah?

it implies you need a lot of food as gourmand but like, it's food

just asking to make sure

[verbal pelican]

probably

[sacred fox]

I would think so

Changing the message to "how to get enough food at Survivor" would have the same meaning

It just happens to be true that gourm is l a r g e

[dusty jetty]

yea 🥹

[quasi night]

When you think about it, this comment isn't far from the truth

[fierce wyvern]

just one use

very short range

very powerful

[quasi night]

Nukes are basically just really powerful guns, when you think about it

[crude jetty]

Joke rifle moment.

[quasi night]

I'm totally gonna keep this conversation in mind for when Ollie gets around to challenges, and then bring it back up

[cedar cedar]

artificer is the gun campaign anyway

[proven wasp]

I literally just made it the gun campaign because why not

Artificer's arsenal rules

[crude jetty]

You think Ollie is struggling with Gourmand exhaustion?

[cedar cedar]

i thought he knew about gourmand stamina

[dark reef]

oh help someone brang up my name in offtopic

[desert relic]

post mitosis (im gonna delete the rest)

[sour bear]

mipostis

[desert relic]

rifre

fire

[sour bear]

rifre

indeed

[desert relic]

rifle

[proven wasp]

This us so beautiful why delete

[desert relic]

sorry

[proven wasp]

xD

[uncut prism]

RIP

[quasi night]

Aw man, I just realized Ollie seems to be heading up the right side of Metro, which means he's probably not going to meet the echo

(Or rather, below, I should say - heading to the right side from below)

[cedar cedar]

are scissor birds actually immune to bomb spears

[crude jetty]

Nah.

[cedar cedar]

i dont remember if they have a shield or no

[crude jetty]

Miros birds do get affected by explosive spears.

Provided you don't miss.

[quasi night]

According to the wiki:

Miros Birds can be reliably killed with a single Explosive Spear.

[cedar cedar]

i mean afaik they even get oneshotted

maybe it was a dud?

[quasi night]

Hehe 🐌

[crude jetty]

The tricky part is actually hitting the bird. They are tall and have long legs.

[quasi night]

True

[crude jetty]

But the legs don't have a hitbox.

So if you throw it from a standing position, you're gonna whiff the shot.

You have to jump and hit the torso.

[quasi night]

I think the only times I've killed ones have been in arena challenges and the one cycle of Inv I've played

[cedar cedar]

i once tried clearing the birds as artificer

but apparently there are so many you time out

[quasi night]

https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1478896415651663983 I think needs to get messages nuked for Downpour

[quasi night]

Nevermind I think he's walking to the left now

[cedar cedar]

shelter....... 😭

[quasi night]

Oh yeah RIIIIIP THERE'S ONE RIGHT IN THAT ROOM

[crude jetty]

There's a graffiti pointing towards the shelter too.

[quasi night]

Yeah...

Unfortunately I don't thnk we really have any way of making Ollie notice that

[crude jetty]

Not without spoiling.

[quasi night]

Yeah, obviously

[cedar cedar]

@ stargazer hey wait dont snail me too, youre like 90 minutes late

[grave token]

I know

For the future feel free to ping me for silly reasons or serious ones btw

[cedar cedar]

ok

[crude jetty]

The reason ----->

[fierce wyvern]

[teal timber]

@fierce wyvern My Collection

[quasi night]

You didn't add Ollie's "White Lizard" to the Black Lizards ()

[dark reef]

whats TLCOADLLSAACH

[quasi night]

#1474555235925229732 message Little does Ollie know, I'm referring to <@&821078631425769503>... sigh

[dark reef]

what challege is that again?

[quasi stirrup]

lineage a cyan lizard in outskirts and take it through crypts, exterior, fp, and to pebble's chamber

[teal timber]

#1322956288854065162 message

[dark reef]

ok what is that nickname

dont think this is in here #1335055831623925801 message

[radiant night]

There are probably many names that are missing since it’s a very big task to track them all 🥹

[dark reef]

we should add that

[gritty peak]

YALL

OLLIE LEARNED ABOUT KARMA

[verbal pelican]

i’d sure hope so 🥹

[gritty peak]

Yeah

He still doesn't know the significance of it

Like

He doesn't know it's needed to ascend

he knows survivor but im not sure if he knows gluttony/companionship/lust/violence

[dark reef]

like in what kind

what it is or

wait

NOW he discovered the name???

[gritty peak]

He learned symbols r called karma

[gritty peak]

Yeah

[dark reef]

i thought he discored them in vanilla

espically when he used passages in vnaila

[gritty peak]

Huh

He did mention he heard it been called karma before

But he didn't think it was called karma

[dark reef]

really

well i ddint read the thread so

[gritty peak]

House of braids is the weirdest echo(?) name i ever heard

[quasi stirrup]

[quasi stirrup]

yeah he got spoiled

someone called it karma in his thread

[gritty peak]

Oh

[quasi stirrup]

happens surprisingly often

[verbal pelican]

it was me.

[gritty peak]

I searched up karma in the thread

Holy hecc

That's a lot

[quasi stirrup]

i think it was tankium actually and someone else

[verbal pelican]

me.

[dark reef]

is this person on cycle 0?

[verbal pelican]

apparently

[grave token]

Presumably

[atomic locust]

I thought this was in regards to About Oliver (the youtube channel) for a moment and I was very confused

shoutout to anyone who has seen that playthrough

good youtube channel

[verbal pelican]

looks like they were

[grave token]

Hi Kalum

[north mural]

Ollie walked right over the Dome and never went in

Just went right past through the big scav toll first try

[dark reef]

huh?

[north mural]

@frozen hatch read through the pinned guidelines in this thread if you wish to assist players

[frozen hatch]

okay !! :D

[proven wasp]

Moth!

[frozen hatch]

me!

im gon help new players :33

[desert relic]

math

[frozen hatch]

meth

breaking wawa

[desert relic]

survivor, we need to cook

[frozen hatch]

five pebbles guide coordination

[proven wasp]

YES

Erratic pulse thank you

[frozen hatch]

bless you all for being patient with people like my dumahh doing wrong stuff 🙏🙏

[cedar cedar]

oh expedition spoiled someone spearmaster intro

well mmm yes well i found spearmaster intro all by myself 🤓 with observation and grapplr worm 🤓 🤓

it was disappointing (more so when i did finally play spearmaster and it turned out to be as nothing as it seemed on first glance)

[desert relic]

#1472999883668455689 yes?

[cedar cedar]

thats the thread yea

[desert relic]

i was there to see that

[north mural]

But what's on the other side of the gate tho

[cedar cedar]

antilore

[proven wasp]

The one WMD that can destroy Rain World itself as we know it

the one way pipe that makes you old

[frozen hatch]

im old!

im sorry

what are the extents of the advice you can give to new players? is something as straight as "its a game about exploration, so its okay not to rush and explore a bit" an acceptable advice?

[proven wasp]

Yeahh that's fine, it's okay to tell players that NO, you ain't getting a waypoint in this game, you gotta figure it out

[frozen hatch]

mochi

[tranquil mulch]

the second pinned message covers that more

[frozen hatch]

ive read through it, but clarification to my question would be nice

[proven wasp]

Don't
||I was gonna send a anti moth bug spray image but thought it'd offend you xD||

[frozen hatch]

send it

im not easily offendable :p

[proven wasp]

Later...

[tranquil mulch]

but overall the extent pretty heavily depends on the specific thread :peanutbutter: some are open to pretty direct advice, some aren't

[frozen hatch]

peanut butter

[frozen hatch]

so in the end its best to aak the preferred method of guidance?

[cedar cedar]

its a you can always ask kinda thing

[frozen hatch]

i love these emojis sm

[proven wasp]

fr

[cedar cedar]

the felper goto is to be as vague as possible and have help be a last resort kinda thing

i think i see people ask for pretty direct help and people will still be cagey for a bit

[frozen hatch]

got it ! felper...

[silver musk]

Tbh yeah. I tend to do it often if unsure

[proven wasp]

What does a lizard prancing look like?

is it like a comically skippy run?

[silver musk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295244891559034922/1363226348314820839/cyan-boing.gif

[proven wasp]

So once you see 7 cyan lizards do that, you are summoned?

[silver musk]

[frozen hatch]

imagine rgb cyan lizard

[silver musk]

Eggspedition ✨

[proven wasp]

[proven wasp]

I once met a green cyan lizard, it was the most beautiful cyan i had ever seen

[frozen hatch]

YOU CAN ENCOUNTER RGB CYANS??

[silver musk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1203242690758844458/1374849201992765501/cyan-zoomies.gif

[silver musk]

Yeah. There's a secret you can unlock which enables it

[proven wasp]

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG IT'S REALLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALSO CYAN LIZARDS REAL? OMG!!!!!

[frozen hatch]

this gif crashed my phone

[silver musk]

I blame discord

[proven wasp]

the seven prancing lizards were TOO MUCH

[frozen hatch]

naur but theres like 4 of them there

i fear the sight of 7

[silver musk]

3 others made it to the end already

[frozen hatch]

okay i need to know how to get this sercret \

[cedar cedar]

iirc ||you need to stand in specific locations as each slugcat in expedition?||

[silver musk]

There's a manual for expedition mod (you can access it in game) it shows different slugcats in different locations. Stay there with the according slugcat for all of them

[frozen hatch]

awkay

[cedar cedar]

some are tricky to get to

maybe all of them

[frozen hatch]

thank 🙏🙏🙏

[frozen hatch]

i think ill be doing that secret some day since im masochistic enough to fill collection tab

to infinity and beyond

[proven wasp]

Hey moth have you beaten watcher?

[frozen hatch]

yea

[proven wasp]

wanna come to my felp thread?

[frozen hatch]

huhu wuh where

[proven wasp]

@north mural SWOON MISSED THE DRESS

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[north mural]

Yup

[proven wasp]

well maybe exploring submerged withoud playing riv and/or saint first does that

[frozen hatch]

shhh theyre still learning and still new

ive never gone to submerged as anyone but rivulet

so theres that

[proven wasp]

Yeeee i know, tho you just know they'll be like
"BUT I WAS JUST THERE AWWWWWW I GOTTA GO THERE AGAIN"

they will suffer and we like that MUAHAHAH

[frozen hatch]

so evil

[proven wasp]

Went there first as rivulet, came back as hunter for the dress xD

[frozen hatch]

hunter felt fabolous :3

[proven wasp]

frrr

[frozen hatch]

cant they passage out?

[proven wasp]

Yeah they can

but tbh

returning from submerged is the easy part

going into it you need to carefully use bubble weeds

and wouldn't ya know

he did it, despite not having a map, or a guide or whatever

[frozen hatch]

its very odd that you can even get to submerged on other campaigns

though it makes for a fun lil easter egg if

ig

aquapede scared the jeepers outta me when i first went there as non rivulet 😭

[proven wasp]

I mean it's a cool, if not extremely depressing and somewhat frustrating region

[frozen hatch]

AND with no real purpose to. go. thereee

[proven wasp]

other than the DREEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

though if it were up to me, moon would NEVER have fallen

[frozen hatch]

the hero we need ❤️‍🩹

[proven wasp]

I'm gonna save the moon, stick with me in the future plssss

[frozen hatch]

cutoff fp water supply ❤️‍🩹

[proven wasp]

I'm gonna save BOTH iterators!!

NO cutoff water

NO rot

[frozen hatch]

five pebbles tsundere fr

[proven wasp]

Oh i was gonna give him super mega depression

but like, the kind of depression that shakes you out of your plans to do the golden pearl experiment?

can't really explain and won't endulge in my plans

though it will be gritty and grounded

[frozen hatch]

sliver of wawa

[proven wasp]

in it's execution

[proven wasp]

Wawa?

[frozen hatch]

waaa

[proven wasp]

NVM

the SWOON saw it

i'm so proud of him

[cedar cedar]

does getting the cloak in expedition count for the save file?

[modern harness]

Id assume no

[quasi stirrup]

@cedar cedar

[crude jetty]

You guys know if there's a problem with the wiki? It won't load for me for some reason.

Oh.

I guess that explains it.

[quasi night]

Oh I was just getting confused by this as I was grabbing the echo dialogue for Ollie-

[tranquil mulch]

i'll get the files brb

[quasi night]

I already did, don't worry

[tranquil mulch]

ah ok

[cedar cedar]

ok tbh i’m like 90% sure he knows the names of the 2 iterators but just keeps using pearl and dot out of stubbornness or smth

surely the game has spelled it out by now??

[quasi night]

I don't think so, really

All I remember is ONE time in a pearl or Moon's dialogue in which Five Pebbles was mentioned as a name

[grave stag]

Even if game tells you some official name the cool name you have been using will still stick because you actually remember it

[quasi night]

I think Ollie said something like, "Could Five Pebbles be Pearl's actual name?" and then forgot or something

[quasi night]

(Tbh the Iterator names are the one time I disagree on this point, because they're full-blown Characters rather than just creatures)

[grave stag]

TBF before spear master they are just cool looking robot things. Unless you do pearl collecting before that and actually learning about integrators properly

[quasi night]

"Integrators"

[grave stag]

Autocorrect not doing favours for me I see >_<

[tranquil mulch]

I think if you get that if you shrink iterators infinitesimally

under the Riemann definition

[proven wasp]

Wow imagine not doing pearl collecting, pfft!

[verbal pelican]

awesome ollie theory

[quasi night]

Wait I was just looking up the color variation for Eel Lizards to confirm what colors they're able to be...

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY DON'T HAVE ANY COLOR VARIATION?????

[verbal pelican]

strawberries don’t either

and trains

caramels are the only downpour lizard with color variation

[quasi night]

Dang...

Downpour lizards aren't as cool as I thought

[verbal pelican]

and they have. a lot let’s just say

[quasi night]

Ok maybe Caramels make up for it

[frozen hatch]

what is abomination

i love it

[quasi night]

Oh wait, this is an interesting conclusion - thinking one of Spearmaster's drawings can't be X thing because you haven't encountered it yet

(In this case referring to scavs)

[sour bear]

#1476287526900858890 message wait the slugpup isn't a downpour spoiler right

[dark reef]

arent they downpour exclusive???

[verbal pelican]

i’d say it should be deleted

[sour bear]

They were planned to be a thing in vanilla

[verbal pelican]

i’ve heard people make the argument for slugpup emojis being from a mod originally but like it leads to the same result doesn’t it

[sour bear]

I don't wanna delete it

Plus the op saw it akready

[verbal pelican]

sees emoji of pixelated creature that looks suspiciously like a rain world creature and thinks “wow this must be in a dlc!”

and then boom what do you know it is in a dlc

i’ll silent delete it

[sour bear]

Oh wait it wasn't the op but still

[verbal pelican]

all gone

[dark reef]

but still how was that gif made?

[verbal pelican]

i have absolutely no clue

[quasi stirrup]

what gif?

[verbal pelican]

?ploo

[sour bear]

my favourite part is how survivor reacts to that like its just daily buisness

[sacred fox]

The audio recording of it is my favorite part honestly

[silver musk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295244891559034922/1376814581640466492/where_ploo.gif

[sacred fox]

It was a vocal stim for like 3 months for me

[frozen hatch]

its just a burning memory

[desert relic]

[crude jetty]

"Son, why are you levitating and violently vibrating out of nowhere as if you were possessed by a demon?"
Survivor asked calmly.

[desert relic]

"wa"
slugpup said calmly

[proven wasp]

Considering green survivor is remaining concious despite violently hitting the floor i believe it must be dev tools, (not mouse drag)

[desert relic]

if it was dev tools then the player and the green survivor would do the ploo

since theyre both counted as players

[proven wasp]

Weird...

We need a whole investigation

on the thing used for the gif

[crude jetty]

There is a button that pulls all creatures except the player and the batflies towards the cursor location.
However I do not know if dev tools identify slugpups as 'playable slugcats' or 'generic wild creatures'.

[desert relic]

slugpups are players that are controlled by the ai, they are counted towards being players when it comes to dev tools teleport keybind

[quasi stirrup]

yeah theyre teleported or dragged too

tenor blast

[desert relic]

i found out tenor isnt allowed in this thread but is allowed in the sister channel (#downpour-spoilers)

[proven wasp]

Evil

[desert relic]

i thought they also killed #downpour-spoilers's tenor ability

[quasi stirrup]

that's so weird actually 🥹

[frozen hatch]

did i breach some rule just now

awie

[proven wasp]

Wait what did ya just do omg?

Come back here

with your rideable survivor

don't ride away

[frozen hatch]

five pebbsi

[proven wasp]

five pebbsi

[grave token]

That gif isn't a tenor gif to my knowledge

Unless..?

[frozen hatch]

the source was from tenor

[grave token]

Let me check

ttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1270823904247546017/1479520142567411802/image0.gif

That's the gif link

(I removed the "h" in "https" so it wouldn't embed)

That gif isn't a tenor gif

[frozen hatch]

bbbbuututttyhytkfnfjfkdmmdmf

[grave token]

Did you find it in your "favorites"?

[frozen hatch]

nope

[grave token]

That's weird then

I know that non-tenor gifs aren't blocked, but idk how you got that gif from tenor and it wasn't blocked

[frozen hatch]

still a tenor

[quasi stirrup]

so you used the search in discord gifs and sent it? yeah that's weird then

usually the search feature only shows gifs from tenor, so the link itself would be a tenor link not a discord link

that's why star is confused

and now me too

[frozen hatch]

the confusion is expanding

[lyric moss]

For me it's changed to "search Klipy"

since I think they're phasing out tenor?

still shouldn't have any bearing on the above gif not sending, though...

yeah i dunno

[tranquil mulch]

giphy + klipy are a part of the automatic block

[tranquil mulch]

ah yes, it's Circle's automod being weird

(the way it works is that if you whitelist a channel category, it does whitelist the channels, but not the threads in these channels)

[desert relic]

i see

[desert relic]

still tenor for me

[lyric moss]

may be one of those discord rollout things

[north mural]

Tenor on discord is supposed to get discontinued june-ish(?) But they're rolling out trials already with giphy klipy for some accounts

[tranquil mulch]

ok I had enough and decided to escalate this to Circle developers

[tranquil mulch]

current progress:

• joined Circle's server
• after reading a bunch of procedural stuff, decided that a support ticket best fits
• after describing the issue, this was called "an oversight rather than a bug" and got redirected to suggestions
• after making a post in suggestions, this got called a bug by a developer (would be funny if it was redirected to support but no it wasn't), they should be in the process of fixing it then

honestly I'm pretty impressed at how quick the response time was to both of these

[grave token]

So now is Circle gonna get fixed and let you whitelist the threads

[sour bear]

random_moth

[desert relic]

real_moth

[crude jetty]

complex_moth

[tranquil mulch]

hyperreal_moth

[proven wasp]

@frozen hatch

[quasi night]

I think Ollie forgot about Whiterer (Caramel) Lizards... somehow
#1474555235925229732 message

[frozen hatch]

sleeping_moth

[cedar cedar]

maybe it was a differently colored one

[quasi night]

Yeah, that was my thought too

Maybe the only ones he'd seen up to that point had little to no brown coloring

Still weird he never saw them spit and that he didn't recognize the 6 legs

[cedar cedar]

i remember a few areas where you can sneak past caramels

actually, where did he see a caramel before anyway

[quasi night]

I don't remember, actually

[north mural]

He did recognize the 6 legs

Said it was some kind of huge mutant

[crude jetty]

I wonder what he will call train lizards if he ever sees one.

[north mural]

Whiterererer lizards probably

[crude jetty]

Those will probably be the strawberry lizards.

🍓 🦎

[proven wasp]

Yummy lizors

[crude jetty]

Caramels are tastier.
And much more filling.

[silver musk]

@covert stag hello! If you intend to help people with their first playthroughs I recommend going through pins in this channel

[frozen hatch]

rawr

[covert stag]

Alright

[hoary verge]

[grave token]

@frozen hatch I've been felping for a while and I started out unofficially felping (and I've had my messages blasted before) but I think I've been an official felper for about 10 months now

[frozen hatch]

waow inspiring

🤩

[grave token]

But if you just mean felping in general, I've probably been felping for a little over a year now

[frozen hatch]

how frequiently would you say absolutely new threads appear?

[grave token]

Basically every day

[north mural]

At least one a day yeah

[grave token]

Some days there are very few threads that are made, and some days there are at least 10

[frozen hatch]

holy cow

helping people sounds very nice actually

something about seeing someone grow more experienced

[grave stag]

It's nice indeed

[grave token]

It's fun until you realize the first playthrougher is probably better at the game then you are /silly

[grave stag]

No need to call me out like that!

[frozen hatch]

funny thing that im going through rn is that im helping someone beat c70 while they have 1800 hours

how wise would it be to suggest playing with controllable deer mod? only if theyre frustrated? if they dont want to explore other areas to find ways around? not appropriate at all?

[desert relic]

i think its better to not suggest them that

[tranquil mulch]

a few steps before that can be done :peanutbutter:

like:

• slightly more detail on how Deer work
• Tweaked Deer Behaviour Remix option
• slightly more detail on how that option works
  • in particular including the tutorial message that appears only with that option enabled

[proven wasp]

YOOOOOOOO rivulet

[frozen hatch]

so mods should serve as a last resort interestinf okay thank you

[proven wasp]

I remeber i used to use that mod, before i figured out how rain deers actually work, then i realized it really wasn't needed

[frozen hatch]

personslly ive found that even with tweaked deer behaviour enabled they wouldnt budge at all and spend cycles either batging or standing near walls in either way never standing up

[frozen hatch]

struggles of new players 💔

im still new trust me 💔

[tranquil mulch]

more detail on the Remix option: https://rainworld.miraheze.org/wiki/Remix/Rain_World_Remix#Tweaked_deer_behavior

"Increasing effective wiggle to at least 10% will cause the Rain Deer to turn around." is the main important one for controlling Deer and is optimised with clockwise/counterclockwise movement inputs; it is also what the tutorial message hints at :peanutbutter:

[frozen hatch]

thank you peanut butter

[cedar cedar]

i think a lot of lets players i’ve seen get tripped up by the deer tutorial prompt

they hear “dont move too much or you’ll startle the deer” (aka something bad)

is it true that tweaked deers move less when not prompted

i think i heard that a few times

i had a suspicion downpour deer maybe do

[tranquil mulch]

well you can see the list of effects in the linked wiki article

(and, on the contrary, the Remix option restricts further the conditions on which they can stand still or rest)

[cedar cedar]

oh no, not the remix option, deer with or without downpour enabled

or maybe remix enabled disregarding the deer toggle itself

wait nvm

[tranquil mulch]

there are absolutely no MSC or DLCShared checks in any Deer code

[cedar cedar]

oh

werent some of their properties altered

something about their possible room locations going from hardcoded to not or smth

[tranquil mulch]

that's Remix

[quasi night]

https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1479800937760428228 Is it just me or is "Farm" too much of a spoiler for a thread title?

[crude jetty]

I think just the word 'farm' is a bit too vague to pin it to Farm Arrays.
It could mean anything from a cow farm, to an Exp. farm, to aura farming.

[silver musk]

vague enough

[crude jetty]

Yeah. You wouldn't know it's the name of an actual place unless you actually came across Farm Arrays at some point.

And at that point, it wouldn't be a spoiler anymore.

[quasi night]

Fair, I suppose

In my eyes, half an area name is still an area name, but...

[crude jetty]

Would it also feel like a spoiler if a thread simply had the name "Sky" or "Garbage" or "Complex"?

[quasi night]

...

[crude jetty]

Even though they're technically half of a place's name, it doesn't really tell you much.

[quasi night]

Point taken

[frozen hatch]

imagine if a thread was named arrays

without body info i doubt anyone would think that refers to some region

[quasi night]

[]

[crude jetty]

"Bus"

[frozen hatch]

unfortunate

[crude jetty]

🚌

[frozen hatch]

five

to the

I SAW THAT

[quasi night]

Outer

[crude jetty]

This is what it feels like to chew Five gum.

🫐 🫐 🫐
🫐 🫐
🫐 🫐 🫐

[quasi night]

The

[covert stag]

System

[quasi night]

Syste- aw man 🐌

[frozen hatch]

skirts

[crude jetty]

Leg.

[quasi night]

That... that one's just the actual region name

There's... you just got rid of the "the"

[covert stag]

Well "leg" could refer to any creature that has legs

[quasi night]

[crude jetty]

The Leg has 6 letters.
Leg has 3.
I have gotten rid of 50% of the letters in the name.

[desert relic]

th l

[quasi night]

Canopy

[desert relic]

aoy

[quasi night]

(My beloved)

[hoary verge]

Terranean

[desert relic]

terraria

[proven wasp]

why is watcher so happily watching the monk surrounded by the dll's?

[hoary verge]

TERRARIA

[desert relic]

subterraria

[hoary verge]

Sk sla ds

[crude jetty]

Watcher is a very happy fella.

[proven wasp]

oh wow...

[crude jetty]

Also, any situation is a good excuse to eat popcorn.

🍿

[hoary verge]

Gormball

[quasi night]

Yard

[hoary verge]

Pipe

Basement

[desert relic]

out

[frozen hatch]

NO NOT THE BASMENER

[desert relic]

thanks adnreew

[frozen hatch]

nachos

[hoary verge]

Thanks andrew

[crude jetty]

Merged Super.

[hoary verge]

[quasi night]

Development

[hoary verge]

[desert relic]

sorry we forgot

[covert stag]

T e R t

[hoary verge]

Un de ha ng

[quasi night]

Wall

[hoary verge]

Th pr cip ce

[desert relic]

monkwall

[crude jetty]

Metro

[desert relic]

five

[crude jetty]

Braids.

[desert relic]

[quasi night]

.

[desert relic]

moon

wait no

look

[crude jetty]

[covert stag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167025508823867435/1402353054698835968/UHHHHHHHH.gif

[crude jetty]

Monument

[frozen hatch]

what the hell is a icy monument rahhh i only know saint industrial complex

[crude jetty]

Spires.

[frozen hatch]

slay the spire

[crude jetty]

Imagine not knowing about the "Spires", not realizing you've been exploring them all along throughout all non-saint campaigns.

"The spires have always been within you, young slugcat."

[desert relic]

suburban

[proven wasp]

Why is slugcat teaching scavs to read when it can't even read text ingame, jeez what a HYPOCRITE

[tranquil mulch]

it's a vision test

[crude jetty]

Lore inaccurate vision test. Survivor should be making them read the karma symbols.

[tranquil mulch]

as indicated by the size shrinking per row

[proven wasp]

It still shouldn't ever be near anything text related

[desert relic]

ive somehow misread "community" category right now as "calamity" and i have no idea how and why and what

[crude jetty]

Terraria.

[desert relic]

i dont even play terraria actively

[crude jetty]

What is Rain World if not a continuous string of calamities?

[proven wasp]

What if Rain World always had a boss at the end of every region, and like like we could craft armor and spears

and enemies had dropss

[desert relic]

mine and craft your rain world

[crude jetty]

Then it would be less Rain World and more Hollow Knight.

[desert relic]

minecraft holow kngiht rain world

[crude jetty]

Raining all over your hollow mines.

[proven wasp]

NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[desert relic]

[proven wasp]

angr

[quasi stirrup]

if rw was a combat game i think id dislike playing it

with dedicated bosses and everything 🥹 hk already has me stressing

[crude jetty]

I don't think you need to make enemies drop random loot in Rain World, because the enemies are not meant to be delivering a random reward system.

If you fight, it's for a very clear reason.
Survival.

However, combat is often not the only path to survival, nor the most convenient. You don't lose anything by avoiding combat, and you don't gain anything for actively fighting, at least in general (it makes feeding easier in the case of carnivorous slugcats though).

The good thing about Rain World is that it leaves all your options open to play the way you want.

[proven wasp]

Oh i was very much joking, what i appreciate about Rain World is that it's not another beat em up thing

and you are most of the time already at max power, only thing that changes is you get smarter about the world

this is such a fine thing tbh

[cedar cedar]

omg wait wait

[crude jetty]

Are you now?

[proven wasp]

Exceptions like saint apply ofc

[cedar cedar]

oh nvm i think

jolly coop pointing doesnt have any scav functionality does it

[crude jetty]

I think scavs have their own pointing mechanic.

But I dunno what button it is. Would have to check safari scav controls.

[desert relic]

misread exceptions as "expeditions" now

[proven wasp]

Thank you windy

[crude jetty]

Dyslexia?

[desert relic]

yuh

i dont know if "dyslexia that affects both of my languages" is a real thing

[crude jetty]

I think dyslexia affects you regardless of your language.

It's an issue with the way your brain registers the letters you see.

[desert relic]

but yeah either way dyslexia

[crude jetty]

[quasi night]

Can I remind Ollie about scav karma in some way?

Say something like, "Do you remember how you got through other high-karma gates?"

Ok never mind he remembered

[dark reef]

this message tricked that previous message for a second

[quasi night]

Well, it seems mono agreed with me on this

[radiant night]

🥹

it was probably fine but it was very much referring to the area

[quasi night]

That was my exactly thoughts too

[quasi stirrup]

the name 🥹

[verbal pelican]

can we standardize sillier spoiler names

[quasi stirrup]

[@No Spoilers!]

[desert relic]

no spoolers

[hoary verge]

Nroj spoilfifkt

[desert relic]

@No Discussion!

[desert relic]

#1479916287634309130 message @quasi night
blue circles signify batfly nests

[quasi night]

Ahhhh

I seee

[forest flax]

#1479954284404543528 message uh guys help im unexperienced in persistency

okay nvm i cooked

[quasi night]

@frozen hatch Pebbles' dialogue changes slightly based on which route you entered from

They went through the Wall entrance, so Pebbles wouldn't have mentioned the Memory Arrays

[frozen hatch]

ah right panzer went through wall

wiki has only that screenshot

[quasi night]

There's a page on the wiki with all of Pebbles' dialogue

[frozen hatch]

i wanred to send screenshot tho 🥺

the photo 🥺