Old FP Guide Coordination [Archived]

[cedar cedar]

scav-exclusive shortcuts

[foggy quartz]

You could call it like that

But it’s more like creature exclusive shortcuts that scav exclusive

[grave token]

#1456460010916675826 message
@uncut prism Hunter starts with negative rep (iirc -45? smth like that)

[uncut prism]

I know

I’ve beaten Hunter xD

But Scavengers insta-attacking seems odd

[grave token]

Oh

[uncut prism]

Unless Ollie has been interacting with them every cycle

It should have decayed a bit already from passive decay

And they threw a pearl at the Scavs already for one Toll

Toll gives extra Rep

So I have no idea how they’re so angry

[grave token]

I think depending on rep and actions done (ex. saving scavs from death, appearing threatening, throwing things near scavs) can impact rep

[uncut prism]

Yeap

[grave token]

And it also just depends on the scavs stats

[uncut prism]

Well, no, not appearing threatening I think

[grave token]

Appearing threatening as in having a weapon and moving around a lot

[uncut prism]

Okay fair I’ve been killed out of the blue by particularly aggressive scavs yeah

[uncut prism]

That impacts their reaction not their rep doesn’t it?

[grave token]

It impacts both iirc

[cedar cedar]

some scavengers are aggressive

[uncut prism]

H u h

[grave token]

Try pinging Randi

[cedar cedar]

so any low rep makes them more

[grave token]

Randi knows rw code stuff

[quasi stirrup]

i think it's not too surprising they instant attack

[uncut prism]

cries in encountering one random scav that decided to straight up murder me right after killing a pipe iirc despite me having decent rep by that point

No wind-up tho?

Unless Ollie can’t recognise it

Those scavs aren’t common

[quasi stirrup]

simply standing up or holding a spear or rock they'll want to murder you in hunter

[grave token]

They're more common than you think

[cedar cedar]

maybe they popped out inches away and it was a proximity thing

[uncut prism]

Yeah, but after giving a pearl to a Toll?

Oof, okay maybe lol

[quasi stirrup]

doesn't raise your rep up that much, still negative

[uncut prism]

Or maybe Ollie was jumping around a lot

[uncut prism]

Ig, but shouldn’t be instant-aggression I thought

[quasi stirrup]

also depends if they actually recognized it as a successful payment

[uncut prism]

How much decay is it for Hunter actually

Considering Ollie passed the toll

Probably was

[cedar cedar]

i dont think he woudlve surivived if they didnt accept the payment

he seemed pent up i imagine he'd mention it

[uncut prism]

I recall my route as Hunter was beeline to Sky Islands, Shelter, go past Echo Room, Shelter, and get Echo

A couple times I’d meet Scavs at that point

Sometimes before, while on my way to the Shelter past the Echo Room

Despite having spear in hand I don’t get insta-stabbed

I do get stabbed sometimes if I’m not careful, but not no-windup

[cedar cedar]

i try to forfeit spears pretty much always, so any scav is usually kinda pacified

but i didnt try to stick around too much

[uncut prism]

Fair

[quasi stirrup]

like this guy was probably one of the most aggressive scavs ive ever seen in my playthroughs

[uncut prism]

Once I give a pearl, I don’t get stabbed at all

[quasi stirrup]

i had max rep, he would've minced me if i didn't im assuming

[uncut prism]

But I’m also careful to crouch and move slowly around Scavs from then, ig…

[cedar cedar]

why didcha bring a squidcada

[quasi stirrup]

it was for a rwsc but i ended up not doing it

[cedar cedar]

a

[uncut prism]

Damn why didn’t you grab its ID

[quasi stirrup]

no visible id allowed for rwsc

[uncut prism]

https://youtu.be/AMJbg68WeLc

Wait a damn second isn’t this the same Scav

[quasi stirrup]

i wouldve if i had the mod enabled

[uncut prism]

It has the same appearance!!

Did you chance upon the God Scav in the wild somehow

[cedar cedar]

the yt god scav has an id thats way out of reach of any regular gameplay

[uncut prism]

I thought it was one of the IDs that can’t generate naturally

Yeah

[cedar cedar]

its probably a lookalike

[uncut prism]

Fair lol

[cedar cedar]

idk if appearance relates to ability also so maybe it is like, a superpowered scav subspecies

[quasi stirrup]

yeah they're similar but colors slightly off

light brown scavs born with a hatred against the world i guess 🥹

[cedar cedar]

btw how far does the id advance in a playthrough

like imagining it starts at 1000 how far does it get in, idk 10-20 hour playthrough

[quasi stirrup]

infinite, eventually it reaches the max and then resets but it's unreasonable to ever get it to reset unless your ids glitch

@verbal pelican

[cedar cedar]

well no im moreso asking

how fast does it advance?

[uncut prism]

IDs advance?

[uncut prism]

It sorta does?

[quasi stirrup]

yeah every creature gets a new one

[cedar cedar]

yknow every time the game generates a new thing it goes up by 1 or something

[uncut prism]

Iirc Personality affects Appearance

Ohhhh

[verbal pelican]

why ping

[quasi stirrup]

id conversation

you know this stuff better than i do

[cedar cedar]

its not that interesting either

[verbal pelican]

it depends

do you know how the system works

okay you do

nevermind

[uncut prism]

I don’t!

Well I can guess

But guesses aren’t as good as verification!

I don’t think it progressing specifically by 1 every time makes sense anyway because it would make scav generation fairly static

[verbal pelican]

starts at random number between 1000 and 10000
increments by 1 for any entity with an id spawned (including spears rocks etc)

[verbal pelican]

wuh

[uncut prism]

Oh

I thought Scav specific IDs

Not IDs in general

Okay, that makes sense LMAO

[cedar cedar]

its not like IDs that are close by mean that theyre similar

[verbal pelican]

it does but only for some creatures

i think specifically scavs?

[uncut prism]

For Scavs specifically

Yeah

[uncut prism]

^^^

[cedar cedar]

there are also a couple of creatures that have hardcoded IDs but there isnt a lot of em

[verbal pelican]

appearance does relate to combat stats

[uncut prism]

Chieftain!!

[uncut prism]

No wonder that scav was so close to the god scav then

[verbal pelican]

if you see a scav with a small head and extremely long eartlers it is probably going to beat you to death

[uncut prism]

h LMFAO

[cedar cedar]

chieftain is kinda funny bc they had to get a pretty weak ID just so the boss fight concept would be fair

[verbal pelican]

chieftain’s stats are awful i’m pretty sure

[uncut prism]

Small Head + Long Antlers

[cedar cedar]

i like the theory chieftain was actually a kinda crappy scav all things considered

[uncut prism]

Oh damn

[cedar cedar]

but theyre the guy with the ID drone so theyre king for now

[uncut prism]

Bro’s face looks like a creepypasta

[cedar cedar]

this is even more optimised than the yt scav right?

[uncut prism]

Tracks.

[verbal pelican]

this is the strongest scav possible

[verbal pelican]

what’s the yt scav

[cedar cedar]

its kinda funny that the strongest scav is so plain

[uncut prism]

^^^

[cedar cedar]

this guy

[uncut prism]

Now I wonder how strong a maxxed Chieftain would be

[verbal pelican]

okay wow three seconds in and there’s already misinformation

🥹

[cedar cedar]

ID system confusion yay

[uncut prism]

Even this Scav is nearly invincible (or rather if you beat him you die as well)

[verbal pelican]

there’s over double 2 billion scav ids and way more than 10k can spawn naturally

[uncut prism]

Oh damn

[verbal pelican]

this is literally just obliteratir

the scav i sent

[verbal pelican]

^

[cedar cedar]

do you immediately see funny stuff happen if you uncap the starting ID with mods or is it pretty normal 99.9999% of the time

[uncut prism]

Yea

[verbal pelican]

so strobgest scav possible

[cedar cedar]

atp why is it even capped anyway

[verbal pelican]

it’s normal

[cedar cedar]

😔

[radiant night]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/898283038537056340/1180989232198725703/scavshocklaptop.gif?ex=657f6cee&is=656cf7ee&hm=28e76393b82d748853cb7e133604db5f786267012056ded3ae31a496ac7a4445&

[uncut prism]

Idk why it’d be any less normal

[verbal pelican]

if you want your scavs to look absurd download mutantscavs

[uncut prism]

I mean, yeah, there’re more optimised scavs

[cedar cedar]

itd be cool though wouldnt it

[uncut prism]

But those are really rare lol

Fair

SCAV TWEAKSSSSS

[quasi stirrup]

gambling if your file gets corrupted

[uncut prism]

I should do Artificer again with Scav Tweaks

[uncut prism]

I’m really curious how godly +2 skill in everything is

[quasi stirrup]

1894 🥹

[verbal pelican]

+2???????

[uncut prism]

??

[verbal pelican]

🥹 that’d be insane

[uncut prism]

Scav Tweaks!

[uncut prism]

Frfr

Hence curiosity

[verbal pelican]

the absolute maximum a scav can get is 1 in any skill

🥹 double that being added by default

[uncut prism]

Yeap!

[uncut prism]

And God Scav has only near that

[verbal pelican]

shoutout to this guy

he should’ve been chieftain

second worst scav possible iirc

the worst one just looks like a knockoff gug

[uncut prism]

He has 0 in everything???

[quasi stirrup]

WHAT IS THIS POOR MISERABLE THING

HE LOOKS LIKE HE GOT RAISED IN A WET CARDBOARD BOX

[uncut prism]

He’s so sad ;-;

Omg they look so pathetic

[quasi stirrup]

wet gug

[verbal pelican]

the worst scavs are always depressed

🥹

[uncut prism]

What is gug

Frrrrr

[verbal pelican]

no like having bad stats is synonymous with the scav being depressed for some reason

💔

this is gug

[uncut prism]

Lmeoooo

[uncut prism]

Makes sense lol

Their appearance would be altered to be less hostile for every aggressive trait they have that’s low and high sympathy

So Ig that’s how they do it

[quasi stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/291184728944410624/1267645033398403142/oooh_nooo_gug_noooo.gif

[uncut prism]

depression

Why are you throwing rocks at the poor guy

[quasi stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179973896976474142/1279588499930091540/gug_super_die.gif

[verbal pelican]

hit him harder

[uncut prism]

NOOOOOOOO

[verbal pelican]

good

[proven wasp]

In my experience they insta attack if you have a spear in hand

[uncut prism]

That’s… really strange

Maybe I’m lucky…?

Usually I get a few seconds to react to them appearing

[proven wasp]

Yeah you gotta crouch and drop your spear

Having a pearl in hand gives you a brief period where they are like "OOOOO SHINYY" before they decide to kill you

And giving the pearl makes all nearby scavs nonhostile

[uncut prism]

Not always, iirc aggressive scavs can attack if they see you have a pearl

I don’t usually need to drop my spear tho

I just crouch and move slowly

[teal timber]

Ollie has recieved the pearl-reading hint.

Turns out they were just talking about pearls so this might be easy

well that worked spectacularly

[uncut prism]

Noiceeee

[proven wasp]

Oh my i love Pearl and their colored pearls chamber

it's my favorite character

[uncut prism]

I wonder why Pearls’ chamber is called Five Pebbles, doesn’t he have more than five Pearls?

[grave token]

Isn't this a DP exclusive passage

[crude jetty]

Mistook the passage. The one they got was just The Scholar.

Only one pip though.

[proven wasp]

The pearls can be mixed into pebbles, gather all 5 into one spot and you can make a wish

[uncut prism]

Ohhhh, true

[radiant night]

Yes it is

but I see it is scholar and they just misinterpreted what caused it to go up

[uncut prism]

Is

The Overseer telling them to get Flies for Moon?

I didn’t know they do that… or, vaguely… Idk

[radiant night]

Yeah it tries to lead you to pebbles

[uncut prism]

Neat!

[radiant night]

Oh wait that’s Hunter

Perhaps leading the green neuron to moon

[fierce wyvern]

they're on survivor rn

[radiant night]

Idk overseers are dumb

Oh then ya pebbles

[fierce wyvern]

rn they're trying to get the teal pearl from subterranean now that they know it has dialogue

which is certainly going to be an interesting one for them to read

[karmic leaf]

time to make an alt and do <@&1249102247543963769> on my "first" inv playthrough /j

[teal timber]

has one goal and one goal only

to get you to get flies for moon

once it's introduced you to that objective, it will point you towards it endlessly, even if you've already delivered several

[proven wasp]

Iggy should be a rain world main character, someone who even after being freed from moon's influence still seeks her well being

[teal timber]

And ||they do so by lying to your face||

[proven wasp]

I mean technically you found a new family and home by locating moon, but Rivulet is the only one who can see the potential in it

[teal timber]

Ehhhh I think that's a stretch

[proven wasp]

xD

[proven wasp]

Why is this emoji called "leditoroverload" btw?

[teal timber]

uhhhhhhhh
it's a very old modding inside joke

leditor is short for level editor

[proven wasp]

Yeah i know but why THAT emoji, and why "overload"

[teal timber]

IDK presumably that's what happens to you if you ledit too much

[proven wasp]

Oh no this means i'm doomed in the future

First thing i'm gonna do is make a mod that allows adult slugcats to spawn as wildlife to make up for Watcher false expectations given by the intro, and i'm it's lediting time

(don't actually tell me if slugcats spawn later i'm still doing it)

[uncut prism]

INFINITE FLIES

[teal timber]

's greed knows no bounds

[uncut prism]

Also Gourmand

[uncut prism]

Frfr

[hoary verge]

Yep

I am always right

And watching 👀

[crude jetty]

So him guiding you towards your family at the beginning of the campaign was him just gaslighting you, huh?

You can never trust anyone in Rain World anymore.

[fierce wyvern]

dlc 3 makes iggy the final boss of rain world

as its clear hes the true evil

[uncut prism]

So true

[crude jetty]

Hmm.

I actually don't remember quite well but...

Were there overseers at any point during Saint's campaign? I don't remember seeing any.

[uncut prism]

I... don't recall seeing any either

[proven wasp]

The DLC will also allow you to backtrack watcher spawn room (this will forever anger the lorehead fans)

[uncut prism]

Or... Do I?

I think I did do funnis on them when I got the ability

[fierce wyvern]

@grave stag they're trying to take the rivulet only route as saint

[foggy quartz]

basically there’s a saint exclusive way into bitter aerie

[grave stag]

That's possible to be taken tho? I remember cheesing through it with saint when I did it. My memory can be wrong tho

[foggy quartz]

Heart won’t work (actually idk if it would work but I don’t think it’s possible to make it alive)

[grave stag]

Ascension + 2 bubbles could work

[foggy quartz]

Never really tried but looking at that map it may truly be blocked

[grave stag]

Anyways Ty for reminding the saint way

[foggy quartz]

The other route is the easy one that works anyways

[grave stag]

True true

[tranquil mulch]

the closest unsubmerged place to the core, MS_CAPI01, seems close enough to a shelter with bubbleweed spawns nearby that you shouldn't need to spend a bubbleweed to get there

so that would drop it to using one bubbleweed, without a way to regurgitate and use a second one

[grave stag]

Oh right stomach pouch is a thing

I have been playing too long with just considering stomach pouch to be unavailable >_<

[tranquil mulch]

well there is literally no other way to use two bubbleweeds besides swallowing one

[nimble nymph]

This path is the blessing from The Ancients.

[fierce wyvern]

holding 2 bubbleweed makes them both drain without the extra breath from the other

[nimble nymph]

The fact that it also resets your rain timer is so useful.

[tranquil mulch]

i suppose when a bubbleweed is close to depleting there's some RNG, so holding two would slightly improve that RNG, but it goes quickly enough from "yeah you're practically guaranteed to get a lung refill" to completely stopping that it wouldn't even reasonably last an extra second

[uncut prism]

It does???

Pipe that makes you old, and Path that turns back snow

[proven wasp]

So carrying two bubbleweed is useless?

[fierce wyvern]

yeah

[proven wasp]

omg

[uncut prism]

lol

[hoary verge]

how did y'all not know that

Noobs

Only pro gamers know that

Single:❌
Taken:❌
Gamer:✅

[gray musk]

Rude?

[hoary verge]

I'm jk

[hoary verge]

Like that's the cringest thing I could come up with

[quasi stirrup]

taken and gamer

i remember when i first found out after like a whole year of bringing two bubbleweed in water thinking it did something

it makes sense thinking about it now with the way bubbleweed behaves but 🥹

[grave stag]

I thought double weeds last longer than one >_<

[gray musk]

Oh, ok, it just wasn't quite clear.

[hoary verge]

oh lol mb

[proven wasp]

How often does it happen btw

that someone plays arti and chooses NOT to kill the chieftain

somehow i feel like the major exception

even though i killed him because i didn't know i couldn't weaken him, i thought a cutscene would play or something

[verbal pelican]

sol spent like 2 minutes in metropolis then left

[proven wasp]

But can you even ascend withoud getting the metropolis echo?

[verbal pelican]

they did apparently

🥹

[proven wasp]

weird..

oh wait

if they get a scav worth 3 karma

[uncut prism]

We love RNGesus

[proven wasp]

they can ascend

[uncut prism]

Yeap

[proven wasp]

wait

BUT

NO

They wouldn't be able to get karma past 4 withoud metropolis one?

i'm so confused...

[uncut prism]

Technically ig you only need 3 Echoes

[uncut prism]

Iirc some scavs are worth up to 6 karma?

[uncut prism]

Eh???

Shaded, Farm, Sub, Chimney, Sky, Exterior

[proven wasp]

Let's see...
Subterranean one is a freebie
Shaded one is a freebie for arti specifically
exterior is a freebie
and metropolis is a freebie

no other echoes can show up below karma 5

unless if there is a secret 5th freebie

[uncut prism]

Wait actually???

[proven wasp]

i literally checked all echoes in my arti game

[uncut prism]

You need Flower

To get Echoes below 5

It’s not really a freebie iirc

[proven wasp]

WAIT REALLY?

for artificer specifically?

[uncut prism]

Yeah

Uhhhh

I can’t recall but I think Saint also does

If you have <5 Karma

[proven wasp]

interesting,....

didn't know that

[uncut prism]

But anyway even the three you mentioned are enough

Because if you get an Elite Scav it gives 5-6 karma iirc

It’ll be hard but technically possible

[proven wasp]

i see
Anyways enough of that!

[uncut prism]

trauma from the Exterior Precipice climb

[proven wasp]

who else didn't decide to kill chieftain when they first saw them

it

was

so

weird

for me

i remember staring at the chieftain

and all of my bloodlust

just

faded away 🥹

i saw the chieftain

[uncut prism]

Fair lol

I already knew in advance

So I just wanted to kill for the fun and challenge

[proven wasp]

and i fell in what could only be described as a mixture of regret and love

[uncut prism]

Didn’t even think to spare

[uncut prism]

Bro loves the Scav Chief? Inteeeeresting

[proven wasp]

I am not talking about love as in wanting to marry them

moreso as in

what are they like

why do they have a mark

why the drone

can we be bffs?

that sorta thing...

[uncut prism]

lol lmao

Fair!

[proven wasp]

I loved him, i hated accidentally killing them

i hated finding out sparing them was not a option

i hated finding out artificer couldn't ever repay her debts

it was PAINFUL

[uncut prism]

“accidentally killing them”

He tanks 3 whatever spears from armour and another 3 with his health

[grave token]

For Saint iirc if you have less than max karma you only get 1 karma level but if you have max you get 2 levels, but ONLY if you have a higher max than K5

[proven wasp]

I THOUGHT A CUTSCENE WOULD PLAY OR THEY WOULD FALL ON THE GROUND EXHAUSTED OR SOMETHING

I DIN'T KNOW THEY WOULD DIE FR

[uncut prism]

No, I meant, to get an Echo

[grave token]

Echos are always active for Saint

I think

[uncut prism]

Oops

I’m pretty sure you only get 1 Karma Max per Echo tho as usual

Just that the 5-7 jump remains

You don’t get locked at 6 Max Karma ever

[verbal pelican]

yes

6 max karma does not exist

[proven wasp]

Hey stargazer can we get a "Days since last downpour mention in vanilla chat" counter?

[verbal pelican]

which vanilla chat

[grave token]

0 days since last downpour incident in fp threads

[proven wasp]

vanilla spoilers xD

[verbal pelican]

the word downpour was last used 16 hours ago

[grave token]

Oh in vanilla spoiler channel? I dunno but for vanilla first-playthrough channel I do know

[proven wasp]

ACTUALLY

i meant vanilla lore

not spoilers

oopppppppsss

[grave token]

Yea I don't check the lore channels lmao

[verbal pelican]

i’m going to find it and you’re going to switch to another channel

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1189450942165307443/1189450942400184320/15094956.gif

[proven wasp]

Btw can we go back to talking about this pls?

[verbal pelican]

a message containing slugpup is the most recent message in vanilla lore

🥹

not sure if that counts for a blast but checked to be sure

[grave token]

I mean, there are technically scups in vanilla, the opening cutscene for survivor shows baby scugs

[proven wasp]

Oh thank you for saving them from

[verbal pelican]

yes i asked

[proven wasp]

woops

[verbal pelican]

GHOST PING

🥹

[lapis spade]

[verbal pelican]

it got blasted anyway by mono

[proven wasp]

sorry it didn't say it would ACTUALLY ping that on my end

[grave token]

Ghost ping

[verbal pelican]

ghost pinged no dlc content

[proven wasp]

pls forgib me

[verbal pelican]

✅ execution scheduled for idk sometime tomorrow

pretend this is a circle message

[proven wasp]

Anyways

How often does it happen

for someone to actually spare scav chieftain
Pls giv more examples!

i need to feel less isolated in my choices

[grave token]

I dunno

I don't keep up with every thread because I got burnt out last time I tried that

[proven wasp]

damm can't even ask the felpers i'm cooked

it's fine!

[proven wasp]

And i wonder why rattuse does exactly that

[verbal pelican]

spare scav chieftain

🥹

like just nearly killing him and then deciding to leave

[grave token]

But why do that when

[verbal pelican]

if so you’re probably the only person in history to do that

[verbal pelican]

i wasn’t saying to

[grave token]

This is the story of Undertale

[verbal pelican]

i prefer to ignore any gameplay aspects of artificer because they all suck

and i would never encourage anyone to do something related to artificer

[grave token]

I'm going to go play Arti now

[proven wasp]

Nooo i mean as in not bring the carnage anywhere near him in the specific strand you decide that actually fighting him is a bad idea

[proven wasp]

This is shocking xD

[verbal pelican]

they do

i don’t understand how anyone can find artificer enjoyable

[proven wasp]

WHO decides that fight is actually pointless and gives up on it

[verbal pelican]

everything is either too weak to kill you or you just get killed by an offscreen scav or a scav ducks below your spear or does a little hop over it and immediately kills you

[proven wasp]

instead of deciding "Yeah fuck that guy time to doom myself forever YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS"

[grave token]

Artificer is maximum dopamine because you get access to explosives whenever you want and you get to blow a TON of things up

[verbal pelican]

or you get a scav that blocks every single spear because their reaction time is 0.0000001ms

which renders them basically invincible unless you get three centimeters away from them somehow

[grave token]

Just use explosives

[verbal pelican]

yes and then the explosive the scav is holding blows up causing a chain reaction and kills you

this happens every single time

[grave token]

Make things go 💥

Arti is immune to explosives though

I thought

[verbal pelican]

they stun you for like an hour

[proven wasp]

rip

[verbal pelican]

which is close enough because if you’re stunned for like 30 seconds you are not getting out of there alive

[grave token]

It mostly depends on proximity

[proven wasp]

oh

kyungsoon was so fast

[verbal pelican]

arti deaths all feel unfair 💔

[proven wasp]

they Never saw any of the dreams that depicts artificer losing their children

[uncut prism]

HOW DARE YOU

[grave token]

Which is why I prefer to chuck a whole bunch of explosives at things from off screen

[proven wasp]

lol rip

[verbal pelican]

also you have to carry around scav corpses which makes you slow which is incredibly unfun

i’m noticing a pattern of downpour forcing you to carry things around and sucking out all of the fun because of it

[verbal pelican]

there is always a bomb that somehow gets launched over there and kills you

like without fail 💔

[uncut prism]

… I mean, someeeetimes, but even then only if you just go fight them head-on, there’s so much terrain to abuse

[verbal pelican]

i just really don’t like using explosives in rain world they’re so much less fun than spears

[uncut prism]

fair

Is the Artificer kills Scavenger you control dream only after Chief Scav

Or does it not matter

[proven wasp]

Eggman got it before killing chieftain

[uncut prism]

Ah

Kk

[proven wasp]

extremely disturbing to see someone so excited for violence

it

is

[uncut prism]

hi

[proven wasp]

BOW DOW BEFORE THE X KARMA

[uncut prism]

Hunter murder

[uncut prism]

I’ll kill the Noots too

And not even eat them

[grave token]

Just like

Be better at the game /jilly

[grave token]

You should have seen my playthrough of Arti

I'm still used to killing scavs on sight

[proven wasp]

I bet you play hollow knight or something

[grave token]

I have 112%'d HK and I'm close to 100% Silksong so

[verbal pelican]

i dislike hollow knight too

i’m not even ragebaiting it’s just not fun

[grave token]

[verbal pelican]

i have 18 hours in it and i was having fun for 0 of those hours

cool visuals i guess but it’s not funnnn 💔

[proven wasp]

Also no cool scifi lore :<

Respect to those who play it but last time i tried i failed to get into it xD

[grave token]

HK and SS are quite difficult games so

It took me like... 3 years of inconsistent HK playing to finally 112% it

Still don't have all achievements

[uncut prism]

Have you done PoP and P5?

[uncut prism]

HK is difficult??

[grave token]

Nope

[uncut prism]

Same ngl, somehow failed my Steel Soul attempt quite hilariously on the final boss

Final boss isn’t even hard

[grave token]

That's and ||journal and 100% in Steel soul|| is what I haven't done

[uncut prism]

That was embarrassing

Fair

[uncut prism]

PoP isn’t bad tbh

Took me 3h first clear, maybe 15min if I went at it again now since I’ve been practising it for fun

It’s a lot easier than Celeste at least

[grave token]

Really?

[uncut prism]

P5… Valid tbh

Yeah

[grave token]

I found Celeste to be MUCH easier

[uncut prism]

Farewell, C Sides?

[grave token]

...I meant A sides

[uncut prism]

B r u h

Okay, fair

[grave token]

Because that's all I've done

[uncut prism]

A Sides are easier

xD

But B Sides… similar?

C Sides

Harder

And Farewell is pain

[grave token]

C sides

[uncut prism]

Moon Berry isn’t too bad at least

[grave stag]

what we talking here now? I cannot bother back reading at this hour >_<

[grave token]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1352665030776328203/1363344582787600394/Scavenger7639_gotosleep.gif

[uncut prism]

Nothing in particular lol

Just chatting

[uncut prism]

Facts

[proven wasp]

What did you do when you met the cheiftain in your artificer game?

[grave token]

Isn't it like 5 in the morning for you

If my timezone math is working

[grave stag]

4:40

[uncut prism]

Me???

It’s 10.37am lol

I’m at an event

[grave token]

Not for you Shardied

[uncut prism]

Oh

[grave token]

Oh lmao

[uncut prism]

Why’d you ping me LMFAO

[proven wasp]

I was looking for people who just like me, chose to try to end things peacefully, rather than immediatly trying to kill em

[grave token]

I was gonna tell you to go to sleep Ghostly

[uncut prism]

Bruh

I already overslept xD

Was a biiit late to the event

[grave token]

But if it isn't 5 in the morning it's fair game

[grave stag]

what I did when I met them first time or?

[uncut prism]

(like 30min past the start time though attendance was 15min past it so NOT THAT LATE)

[proven wasp]

Yeah first time

The topic was about that then it slowly derailed into... that...

[grave token]

My stance for most things in rain world is "if it can die I'll make sure of it"

[uncut prism]

HOLLOW KNIGHT

[uncut prism]

So true

I’m scared in Watcher tho

So Chieftain

[proven wasp]

that's so meannnnnnnnnn

[uncut prism]

Does it actually work tho

I have no idea

I’ll have to see

[grave token]

Watcher stuff is scary But downpour and vanilla...

[uncut prism]

SO TRUE

DEATH TO EVERYTHING

GENOCIDE

[grave stag]

locked eyes with it for a good few minutes tried to communicate and failed, and went away from there. Then in next cycle I go in and kill him because citizen drone wanted me to apparently

[uncut prism]

I should do a run where everything is locked to -100 Rep

[grave token]

So just play Artificer

[uncut prism]

I mean, 5P does lol

[uncut prism]

But -100 Rep Lizors seem interesting

Iirc they get hella fast

[proven wasp]

Oh hey atleast you didn't decide to instamurder it, that's very good progress on your part!

[uncut prism]

Meow at them

[grave token]

Meows at you

[uncut prism]

Secret pacifist route: Meow at them until it’s night

Meow

[grave stag]

when I was doing arti I was going through a lot of stuff (like when I played most of the campaigns) so lore retention was not good :D

[uncut prism]

Oh, oof

Fair enough

Yeah 5P tells you to kill off the Scav infestation

In Artificer

[grave token]

Ok chat I need to disappear I have a textbook reading due tomorrow

[uncut prism]

Which canonically seems to have been successful

RIP scavs

Good luck!!

Baiiii

[grave stag]

sadly I don't think those logs from time when I was documenting arti have survived to this day

[grave token]

Try the archives

[uncut prism]

Replay it fr

[grave token]

NOW I'll disappear p.s. Shardy go to sleep

[grave stag]

I didn't document them here, but rather in one dm with friend on steam

[proven wasp]

frfrfr

i gotta sleep too

buhbai everyone

[uncut prism]

Goodnight everyone zD

[grave stag]

I will I will. Just 5 more minutes before I go brush my teeth!

[uncut prism]

xD

[proven wasp]

Kyungsoon never understood what they were doing

they don't know the full picture, or EVEN the small picture

they just saw a grave, and proceeded to bury themselves into it

[uncut prism]

So true

[proven wasp]

for literally no reason

one of the most pathetic artificer playthroughs ever, worthy of pity

[uncut prism]

How rude

xD

[proven wasp]

Rude to some, correct to the void...

Ping me if someone spares scavenger chieftain

and shower them with medal emojis

[verbal pelican]

d sides

[uncut prism]

Mods ;-;

[proven wasp]

Oh we have a mathematician on our sights

too bad he couldn't use his big genius brain of his to avoid killing the chieftain but oh well!

[grave token]

@proven wasp please don't give out information that the OP didn't explicitly ask for

[proven wasp]

It was moot anyways, they tried to ascend with low karma as gourm and nothing happened

[grave token]

Still

[proven wasp]

dwdw

[grave token]

ALSO
Please don't talk negatively of others in a place where they won't see it. Even if jokingly, it isn't really a nice thing to do

[proven wasp]

Fineeeeee

[quasi stirrup]

and a small suggestion because i have noticed you've been poked quite a few times on sharing too much information, it might be helpful to take note of how more experienced felpers handle answering questions and certain situations

felping is something easy to learn but hard to master, i remember when i first started i lurked very often in threads rather than speaking just to see what other hints people came up with and when giving information was a good idea

[proven wasp]

Okieeeeeeee... sure

[north mural]

Nope, all saint echoes are freebie

[uncut prism]

I see

[grave token]

This is MSC content right

[quasi stirrup]

probably leviathan based on the description

Ollie doesn't even have remix on so i don't think? they have dlcs enabled? i think? 🥹

[grave token]

Hopefully that is true🥹

[verbal pelican]

they don’t have downpour

[quasi stirrup]

i remember Ollie calls leeches "eels" and every time my brain keeps on instantly going msc mode it's a spoiler

[sour bear]

No

[uncut prism]

Yeah I realised when they said Subterranean

Probably just Centipedes underwater

But I also panicked when I saw it first lol

[spare trail]

do they think thats all the colored pearls there are

omg they did

[sour bear]

they will find more

they are everywhere

[uncut prism]

frfr

[hoary verge]

XD no way u fell in love with a STINKY SCAV

[proven wasp]

NOT LITERALLY

[hoary verge]

ok ok

[proven wasp]

it first had to be Neko

then it HAD to be you

[hoary verge]

XD

[hoary verge]

Well duh

I'm js such a bad person

[proven wasp]

thanks ribubu

[hoary verge]

Np

[uncut prism]

Hehe

[crude jetty]

#1468259624020082881 message

"I hope the pearl being blue and all isn't too important."

RIP Industrial lore pearl.

[teal timber]

You say this as if they're ever going to find all the pearls on this playthrough

[crude jetty]

Well, not all.

But hey, they found one.

And touching should still count towards The Scholar.

[teal timber]

not until you have the Mark

[crude jetty]

You mean the Survivor passage?

[tranquil mulch]

no, the Mark

though Survivor is also needed

[crude jetty]

Huh. Didn't know the Scholar was locked behind the mark, of all things. Most passages are locked behind the Survivor.

[tranquil mulch]

the passage art literally depicts LttM talking to Slugcat about the Pearl

would be pretty misleading to show it without the Mark

then again, it'd also be misleading to show it in Artificer's campaign

that's Downpour devs' fault though

[crude jetty]

I guess it would kinda spoil things a little, yeah.

And would be a little confusing.

[tranquil mulch]

Wouldn't say spoil, but rather "shows something that's impossible to do with what the player currently has"

[crude jetty]

Maybe not directly 'spoil' per se, but more like, give a hint as to what one can do.
If a player has reached Five Pebbles without knowing that they can show pearls and items to Moon, the passage image might just show them that they can do that.

[cedar cedar]

any value to a “scholar was originally a get 3 pearls read by moon passage but it got downgraded bc moon can die and then you have a missable passage” theory or no

[uncut prism]

I’ll point out that Artificer can permanently miss most Passages

If she doesn’t get 5 Karma for Survivor

[cedar cedar]

ig you can burn all pearls too

[uncut prism]

Oui

Artificer is easier tho

[tranquil mulch]

not made by the same developers, so not relevant here

[uncut prism]

yeaaaaa

[tranquil mulch]

guess how killing Moon interacts with the passage

[cedar cedar]

uhhhhh

[tranquil mulch]

(you must be on speaking terms with LttM to make progress on it in most campaigns, including Survivor)

[cedar cedar]

wow

what a strange passage

[tranquil mulch]

fun fact: in non-DLC Monk, you can actually get one and only one pip of progress, because most Pearls are converted to Misc Pearls, but FP's pearls count to the passage

(FP's pearls don't count to the passage if MSC is enabled)

[cedar cedar]

i guess

hunter cant get the passage when moon is down

[crude jetty]

I think that happened to me but I am not sure how it happened exactly. I did the chieftain ending, but no matter what I did, there were a lot of passages I could not get, which made thigns harder to collect all the pearls for Pebbles to read.

Maybe it happens when you get the chieftain ending before the Survivor passage?

[uncut prism]

Definitely

Survivor Passage is a prerequisite for almost all the other Passages

After Chieftain Ending, you’re locked out of Survivor Passage if you didn’t already get it

You’d need to go to Remix and enable Passages without Survivor in order to fix that

[crude jetty]

That's the thing. I had that enabled.

[crude jetty]

And I got a few passages, but not all of them.

[dusty jetty]

I mean, in this case the item was fine I'd say, since op asked what it was, even though I'd still refrain from immediately giving straight answers

but there were watcher regions in there, @eternal jackal

just be more careful next time

[quasi stirrup]

doesn't work for most passages

[uncut prism]

R i p

[quasi stirrup]

you still need survivor to get some of them

[uncut prism]

💀

Out of curiosity, what happens if you disable MSC while in like Pipeyard

[quasi stirrup]

you get sent back to a vanilla region shelter

it can break things though

like if you start a campaign with msc and then turn it off, or start a campaign vanilla and then turn it on

[uncut prism]

o7

[uncut prism]

Random one?

TAS Speedrun to Depths in one Cycle

[quasi stirrup]

i think it's the last shelter you slept in

last vanilla shelter

[uncut prism]

Ah

What if you didn’t

Eg. You went straight from spawn to Pipeyard

… wait, is that possible

Nvm probably not

[proven wasp]

The path is considerably shorther than your spawn to shoreline one

[uncut prism]

I cheated my karma to max to enable myself to do it

Then again, mods to enable it…

Not possible without hax probs

But if you do

Does the game just crash and corrupt the save

[proven wasp]

Oohhhhh right right

[quasi stirrup]

i don't really know honestly

[foggy quartz]

Hello

i dont know with going straight to pipeyard and sleeping but if you beat the game cycle 0 (outer expanse ending) you get teleported to the literal start of the game on load as if it was a new savefile

and the title screen just says cycle 0 lol

[uncut prism]

Max Karma cheats?

That’s hilarious tho

They found a family and immediately got washed down the Pipe that Makes You Old

again

[proven wasp]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

that's so sad

[uncut prism]

frfr

[quasi stirrup]

disable all karma requirements

in remix

[uncut prism]

Ah

[quasi stirrup]

makes all gates have lowest karma requirements, necessary for starting cycle rwsc

[cedar cedar]

what does dakr disable

[quasi stirrup]

every gate requires karma 1 instead

[cedar cedar]

does it take care of guardians

does it take care of passages

[quasi stirrup]

nope 🥹

not echoes either

[cedar cedar]

does it remove echo karma requirements

mwuahaha

good job remix

[quasi stirrup]

it doesn't unfortunately

[foggy quartz]

sadly the title is false advertising

[dusty jetty]

@radiant forge please don't discuss watcher content in downpour threads

[foggy quartz]

"disable all karma requirements" - only disables gates

[dusty jetty]

(@jolly ice, looks like I grabbed the wrong id for the ping )

[eternal jackal]

K

[quasi stirrup]

unknown user

[jolly ice]

It's alr bruh )

[dusty jetty]

[quasi stirrup]

@uncut prism new players tend to ask a lot of rhetorical questions or speculate without wanting actual answers

i would be careful about answering stuff without being sure if it's rhetorical or not, in this case they didn't actually want to know

[hoary verge]

Like me

[quasi stirrup]

you can never go wrong by asking just to make sure they genuinely want an answer

you can't take back the information you give after all

[quasi stirrup]

yeah speculating is fun

[hoary verge]

Yayyay

[uncut prism]

I… didn’t give a proper answer, tho?

confusion

[eternal jackal]

I gotta figure out what and what doesn’t count as a spoiler ngl
Prob will ask about it after I get home

[quasi stirrup]

confirming it is an answer

[uncut prism]

Ig...

[quasi stirrup]

it is

[hoary verge]

What wa it

*was

[quasi stirrup]

there's a difference between just speculating and wanting to figure it out on your own, and being told if your line of thinking is right

[uncut prism]

and that i’m p sure besides cheif they can only spawn with 1-4
I actually do know theres one in farm arrays I just never gotten it nor know how to get to it💔
but i do remember the odd screen effect
just confused if I need to do anything extra to claim the echos since I can only get to karma 3 from karmaless echos
oh well i’ll get there when i get there

GhostlyNeko
Yes, but you can try to figure it out on your own```

[quasi stirrup]

#1474158101551911156 message this is the conversation, they were speculating about meeting echoes as artificer

[hoary verge]

Ohk ty

[spare trail]

are shelter failures in the remix menu

[foggy quartz]

they can be turned on/off in the "more slugcats expansion" menu

[quasi stirrup]

yeah they're a msc thing

[spare trail]

ah ok

[eternal jackal]

ok i am le back

anyways what counts as a spoiler
is it the stuff they dont know or things that mention stuff like important regions and creatures like ||HLL|| or ||FP|| in general

[north mural]

Both

If a player doesn't know about a thing yet, you do not mention it

Names, locations, mechanics

[teal timber]

Anything the player doesn't already know, pretty much.
If you're unsure you can always ask here, that's what this channel is for

[eternal jackal]

k thanks

[cedar cedar]

(ok tbf downpour map layout is some headaches)

(some stupid nonsense going on so i’m glad ollie’s immediately picking up on it)

well idk if this specifically is THAT crazy but like

dunno

[teal timber]

I mean

I think Citadel <-> Garbage Wastes makes sense

like they both connect to Industrial Complex and Shoreline

[cedar cedar]

yea

[teal timber]

so they must be near each other

[cedar cedar]

ill backpedal for now ig…

[teal timber]

the weird part is Pipeyard I think

And the fact that Underhang just so happens to line up exactly with... both Memory Crypts and the Shoreline tower?

I mean, OK, the latter is excusable because it probably fell sideways

the former is very weird

[cedar cedar]

huh what tower

precipice stuff?

[teal timber]

like the one leading to the Citadel

that gets crushed by central Underhang in the Saint's campaign

[cedar cedar]

ooh oops

i mean tbh pebbles falls weird anyway

[teal timber]

the Tower of Shadows

[teal timber]

yeah

I ... think the idea is that the structure split in two along a diagonal going into the background

but I'm not sure

[cedar cedar]

you visit two east side walls on wildly different locations too

[teal timber]

like, The Husk is the back half and Silent Construct is the front half

[teal timber]

yeah that's the reasoning I think

the Husk's wall-top was behind the one we normally see

[teal timber]

and then the back half toppled to the left and the front half toppled to the right

Linear Systems Rail ends up in the center because it's the left side of the front half

[cedar cedar]

i thought it was the other way around

vanilla wall on the right, and fakeout wall on the left

[teal timber]

Recursive Transform Array was on the back half and therefore ends up on the far-left

[teal timber]

yeah

vanilla wall is the front one

fakeout wall was behind it

that's just my theory though

[cedar cedar]

i’m not good at visualising which ones the front and back specifically

doesnt help that theyre so far apart saint can barely remember both at the same time anyway

[teal timber]

I mean. I only say that Silent Construct is the "front" because of the connection to Shoreline

[cedar cedar]

speaking of limited shelters

would it be possible to have shelter failures break shelters for the whole campaign as a funny

[teal timber]

Like, permanently? That seems fairly easy to do with mods I think yeah

[cedar cedar]

waow

dunno if itd be like

[teal timber]

just keep a list in the save data of wrecked shelters

[cedar cedar]

how softlocky that could get

[teal timber]

and then treat any shelters in that list like the ones that are broken by time

[teal timber]

very.

[sour bear]

gaslighting is so fun

[quasi night]

Gaslighting except everyone (including the... gaslightee?) knows it's gaslighting and it's all just for the sillies

[spare trail]

are we able to say that some things are different with downpour

so theres a possibility that they didnt actually miss as much as they think

[crude jetty]

I think we already told them that Downpour adds stuff in the other thread. That's why they had to make a new Downpour thread for their next playthrough.

[sour bear]

i think so

[spare trail]

i suppose theyll find out sooner or later anyways when they see a new gate on the top of the wall that definitely wasnt there before

[uncut prism]

Tbf there are Shelters that can’t Fail iirc?

Or rather they can but it doesn’t actually have water or anything…?

[grave token]

Down facing entrance shelters can have shelter failures but don't flood the shelter iirc

[north mural]

Yeah they remain usable

[uncut prism]

Also Karma Gate Shelters I think

And Pebbles’ Shelters

[crude jetty]

And Saint Shelters.

And Inv Garbage Wastes shelters (thank goodness).

[lyric moss]

The Inv GW shelter protection I think had to be added in an update because people would just get their campaign fully softlocked otherwise

Very glad it's a thing now

[radiant night]

Hey @fleet isle
your message was removed in #1468259624020082881 because it was giving the player direct answers to questions they didn’t ask. For future reference we ask that you read the pinned messages in this channel before helping others

[teal timber]

Generally speaking (i.e. unless someone is really stuck or has explicitly asked for it) please avoid telling players anything they don't already know

(welcome to the secret helper shadow government BTW)

(for the future, if you have any questions about how helping works you can ask here )

[desert relic]

the council of the felpers

[crude jetty]

Nachos will never be the same again after that campaign...

[desert relic]

plot twist: nachos are the same

[quasi stirrup]

now i want nachos

[lyric moss]

unlying_face

[quasi stirrup]

literally me because im not lying

[desert relic]

pink radioactivity

[proven wasp]

@quasi stirrup jan_tatesa killed moon btw

just found out

I am genuinely curious btw

what is the psychology of someone who arrives to moon, grabs a neuron and eats it, probably understands the robot didn't like that, proceeds to then eat all of them, robot drops dead, and then they shelter after as if that was just tuesday

[proven wasp]

watcherpopcorn

[grave token]

See food and eat food

[proven wasp]

the user in question apparently went on a aggresive rumble tummy when they met moon cuz rain was near and they were almost starving xD

[grave token]

Yea

See food and eat food

[proven wasp]

frrr

[grave token]

I say knowing iirc I ate the neurons I gave to moon in Hunter

[tranquil mulch]

I do believe there's intentionally a close-by pair of shelters right inside of LTTM so that the player is likely to have little food pips when finally reaching the room with the puppet

[grave token]

the room the puppet

[proven wasp]

Hmmmm seems fair but doesn't seem like what happened, they probably rushed through the entire subregion, withoud leaning about jellyfish or the bubblenut being edible, and got to moon with like 4 time pips remaining or something

quickly went like "OMG I NEED FOOD OR ELSE RAIN WILL KILL ME" and did their thing xD

[crude jetty]

I saw someone who made the mistake.
They thought the robot was trapped in that place and that the little fly things were what kept her trapped there, so they ate the neurons to try to free the robot and save her.

They were so salty when they found out it killed her that they started the campaign again from scratch to undo the mistake.

[proven wasp]

Then they sheltered after? lolrip

[crude jetty]

Yeh.

[dark tiger]

it's natural i think. you're lead to what's functionally a dead end with no other, and the only thing that's interactable are the neurons, and the game conditions you to interact with things by either putting it into your mouth, or throwing it

it's not like you haven't been eating things or being eaten the entire game. while a lot of people don't do this, it's out of fear out of locking themselves out of a good ending or a useful npc, or something along those lines

[crude jetty]

They were led to that location and, it's basically a dead end. They feel like they went through all of that, just to get to this one place, so they felt compelled to 'do something'. It doesn't always click that doing nothing is also an option.

[dark tiger]

yeah

i straight up thought lttm was bugged for a bit and kept smacking her with rocks to try and get her to do something

[crude jetty]

[grave token]

I'd say I was an evil first playthrough-er

I saw moon, saw the dead end, and I saw a food source

[foggy quartz]

when i first played the game i thought neurons were a background element so i didnt even try grabbing them

[quasi stirrup]

me too

manngo meanwhile thought rain world was an evil game and you had to kill moon to progress

[proven wasp]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA? LMAOOO

[proven wasp]

ohno...

[grave token]

Heck, even when I played Rivulet iirc I was VERY tempted to steal some of moons braincells

[quasi stirrup]

real

[distant falcon]

That's kinda valid 🥹

[grave token]

I'm one of THOSE rain world players where if I see something new that looks stabbable I WILL stab it

[distant falcon]

Same

I'm more like "I want it to kill me"

[grave token]

Mmm fair

That way you can kill it back

[grave token]

@proven wasp please don't give out information that wasn't asked for

[sacred fox]

Yeah I didn't think I could grab them, or rather mentioned "I wonder if I could grab those, but either way I won't"

[desert relic]

holy amount of reactions
kinda wish my post had something like this too

[sour bear]

me too

[desert relic]

me the most

[hoary verge]

Uhh guys what's this?

[proven wasp]

Fairly sure it's collectables

[hoary verge]

Oh

Like porls

?

[proven wasp]

No arena unlockables

[grave token]

Arena unlocks

[hoary verge]

Ohh makes sense

[vocal token]

awesome lizard my friend wanted me to share here

such long hair. wow

[sacred fox]

Longer than their body 🥹

[dark reef]

huh?

[eternal jackal]

Latter is the most recent
Ex: is purple Mario purple or red
“It’s the latter” would mean you are answering that he is red

Former is opposite

If that’s what ur asking

[dark reef]

oh i think i get it now

[north pivot]

I found one, somewhere in here #1465434076977565980

This

[grave token]

That looks green to me

[north pivot]

Yah

[grave token]

Granted, I'm colorblind

[cedar cedar]

ollie in particular was playing vanilla

[north pivot]

OH

yeah idk then

[cedar cedar]

i do want him to meet the actual green spiders just to know wth thats about

or at least what the delineation would be

[north pivot]

I don’t even k ow what the green spider is 🥀

[grave token]

Mother spider I think?

[north pivot]

Hmmm

[grave token]

When you kill it it explodes into a ton of tiny spiders

[north pivot]

It did have a smaller black spider around it

[cedar cedar]

fun surprise

[north pivot]

Scary

[cedar cedar]

is it true that green spiders can softlock you

[north pivot]

what

[grave token]

I don't think so

[cedar cedar]

them getting into a shelter, then when you hibernate the anti-softlock kicks in and kills the spider, it explodes into mini spiders that swarm you on spawn?

[grave token]

I haven't heard/seen of that before

I'm pretty sure when a shelter is closing it puts anything that enters the shelter into like... a sleepy state

[cedar cedar]

i thought it also killed some things

[grave token]

I don't know of anything that it kills

I'd have to check the wiki

Either that, or try pinging Randy

[sour bear]

wiki has watcher spoilers

[grave token]

Yea that's why I'm not gonna visit the wiki

[grave stag]

What's the worst that could happen?

:)

[verbal pelican]

it kills spitters i know that

[quasi night]

It's sad that Rivulet has Hunter spoilers

If you don't already know about the delivery of the slag reset keys, you just get spoiled on that once you deliver the cell

[sacred fox]

I don't think it's necessarily hunter spoilers though if the game tells you

Granted I don't have that dialogue memorized

But it's not really saying "hunter gave me a green neuron which revived me and that is their campaign"

Moreso "a messenger came and helped me, from NSH"

That conclusion could be drawn, sure, but the payoff in figuring that out would make up for being "spoiled"

[uncut prism]

Centis

[sacred fox]

And spiders

Any type of them

I think

Dunno

[north mural]

It kills noodlefly moms l think