Old FP Guide Coordination [Archived]

[modern harness]

Yeah

[lyric moss]

I was considering suggesting that myself at some point (avoiding showing the thingy to Cas, I mean), glad to see y'all thinking the same!

evorppavir

[tranquil mulch]

is sending this image on completing Saint still a tradition

[modern harness]

It has soilers for Cas

[sour bear]

On paper

Everyone's getting lazy ig

And we'd normally post it regardless of spoilers - they just beat saint

[lyric moss]

I don't really think it's a good tradition personally

[lyric moss]

Especially for people who'd wanna keep experimenting and finding things out

In the case of someone very much not minding spoilers, eh, maybe?

[sour bear]

Well we need some special surprise thing to congratulate people on beating saint

[lyric moss]

but they could also figure the things out themselves by virtue of... having beaten msc lol

[lyric moss]

makes sense, just maybe not something with random spoilers?

especially random challenge mode spoilers, even without the context relating to it it just feels odd to me

[tranquil mulch]

@stable willow sorry for pinging you for no reason but tbh random pings spice up life and make it more interesting

[stable willow]

OMG...

im glad people still love my shitpost

[lyric moss]

is funy

[sour bear]

Imo the enjoyment of the player takes priority and I think having the surprise can help enjoyment

[modern harness]

[sour bear]

But I gtg

[tranquil mulch]

wait why is saint's left thigh borderless

[lyric moss]

this is definitely best viewed on a player by player basis

wait huh

somehow never noticed

[dusty jetty]

the image is yours?

[stable willow]

indeed

[stable willow]

ate it

[dusty jetty]

that's very cool

[lyric moss]

uhh, errr, uhmmm
the lack of a border there thematically represents...

magica's hunger, yes

[stable willow]

i made another at one point when ranting about saint lore one time

unfortunately the post rc thread was long dead

you can tell its msc loreified because i still thought ascension = death lmao

[desert relic]

salt !!!

[radiant night]

really, it has spoilers for everyone

[desert relic]

i am john spoiler

[sacred fox]

I love it personally and it got me a good laugh, but yeah I personally also got a little disheartened by the soils

[proven wasp]

It is a very nice tradition i love it, just seen it today after i beat saint and it was awesome

[proven wasp]

Thanks for that image it was super fun

And i love how you chose to represent the downpour haters/deniers in it

Personally

i didn't feel all too sad about saint

Most of my sadness came from realizing that the iterators were either gone or almost gone

and i didn't exactly help my karmaing moon not knowing that'd be permanent xD

atleast until the cycle restarted

[proven wasp]

Personally it was obvious to me that ascending different iterators would result in diff dialogue, so i wasn't surprised that that was the case

[proven wasp]

Before the ending i still had hogh hopes for other iterators, considering the two we meet have massive issues already which hampered them

[teal timber]

sooooooooooooo

Castrix beat Saint

[north mural]

Happened in a blur

[teal timber]

Is it time?

[north mural]

Won't consider it beaten till she loads that backup and ascends the iterators

[teal timber]

my plan is to drop one of these in each of Castrix's threads

maybe with some time delay

[north mural]

Naw, she always takes weeks upon weeks after every campaign doing bucketlist things for it

Unless she asks for it earlier so she can brainstorm it during

[teal timber]

well that's what I was thinking, it'd be good to have it to look at while they're tying their loose ends

[teal timber]

could do a really long time delay, i.e. one riddle every few days

[teal timber]

Also I don't think they're aware the riddles exist. IMHO it's better to just start the ARG with zero context

[verbal pelican]

it’s impossible for nobody to have mentioned the inv riddles in castrix’s threads

[teal timber]

#1356353210960580689 message is all I can find from message-searching

they know they exist but, seemingly, not much else

(not really any reason to mention them most of the time)

[radiant night]

Again, I don’t think it is a good idea to force inv riddles upon her until she is ready for it

Editing previous messages ruins the archive

[teal timber]

I would make new ones, I think, to make it more obvious. But yeah I get your point, will wait.

[radiant night]

If she doesn’t ask for it there is no reason to

[teal timber]

I'm mostly worried about the possibility of them just googling it when they're ready

but I suppose Castrix in particular isn't going to do that

[radiant night]

If she does google it that’s her choice

[teal timber]

(as in, not knowing that the riddles exist, and then thinking that's the only way to find out)

[radiant night]

these are hypothetical concerns, I think cas would just ask

She will probably be on saint for awhile anyways

[uncut prism]

MSC Loreified?

[atomic locust]

honestly this seems silly considering the sheer quantity of messages in the threads

changing what, 5 messages? isn't gonna do much in the face of the other 50 thousand

[sour bear]

cas seemed to get bored of riv pretty quick actually

which surprised me

oh and monk but tbf its basically easy survivor

i hope she plays watcher for a while

oh yeah forgot about that

[grave stag]

Riv is kinda annoying for long time

[sour bear]

yeah but didnt cas 1000 cycle gourmand

[uncut prism]

She WHAT

[teal timber]

another option: post "..." five times now with the express purpose of editing it later

[radiant night]

She had kids

[sacred fox]

She liked gourmand

[sacred fox]

Yeah kinda same imo

[cedar cedar]

character who goes through the areas at 400 km/h only to get stuck in the rot faster

character who goes through the areas at 400 km/h only to get stuck in submerged faster

[lyric moss]

me who likes both those areas (especially submerged) & wishes it was more difficult to go 400 km/h in the rest of the campaign & easier to get stuck in general

(Fair tho)

[grave stag]

riv was too fast that I think I breezed through it in 10 or 15 hours meanwhile other campaigns usually took me around 30 to 40 hours per campaign

I have no recollectiong of riv other than suffering, and snow

[desert relic]

snow my beloved

[modern harness]

My first Riv playthrough wasnt very slow either

I got 1 kill and it was a white lizard in my way on the Wall

[lyric moss]

As much as I find the speed itself fun, it definitely just means it's a campaign you breeze through for the most part until it hits you with the difficulty spikes

Definitely part of why I've grown to prefer the normal speed ones more nowadays

(Still don't feel like changing the pfp yet though )

[grave stag]

yup.

[grave stag]

It's, good to note that I hated gourmand due the permanent exhaustion :D

[sacred fox]

Same :3

[north mural]

I think l beat riv in 4 hours

[sacred fox]

I also played gourm without knowing about any combat abilities, so you can imagine I didn't have much fun

[sacred fox]

I did too, passaging out of the rot shorted it a whole lot I'm sure

[north mural]

Riv honestly isn't a very great campaign

[grave stag]

oh, I was aware of those abilities but as I am trash at mechanics in this game I didn't use any of them :D

[north mural]

Goes in a blur

Nothing keeping you to immerse and explore a place better

Other than spending a trillion years in the rot

[uncut prism]

Thankfully I went the alternate route and didn't get stuck in the rot

Definitely looks painful

Submerged wasn't half bad either

[desert relic]

i also didnt get stuck in the rot iirc

apart from the cell duplicating and allat stuff

[uncut prism]

Rip

[hollow bone]

i beat rivulet in 2 and a half hours in one sitting its a fun campaign but it's too easy in comparison to the others

[uncut prism]

Oui

[north mural]

#1468259624020082881 message

Are they describing the caramel? Seems unlikely they'd lineage an orange

They insist they don't have dp on so, dunno

[lyric moss]

oh huh, just looked at the interactive map, never realized oranges were lineagable in Outskirts!

Anyway it definitely seems unlikely, but I've seen unlikelyer things happen, and with so many people playing the game, goodness knows unusual events are bound to happen to someone sooner or later!

So I'd personally take their word for it! But of course, important to keep an eye out

I don't think they have much reason to lie about it anyway, but y'know, just in case

[dusty jetty]

@lyric mossunrelated but do you perchance know who the artist of your pfp is?

[lyric moss]

Yup, Th33lit3!
Got them listed here in my bio as well

[uncut prism]

Ask them to send a screenshot?

[dusty jetty]

bruh i literally opened your bio

guess I'm blind

thanks!

[lyric moss]

it happens

no problem!

[nimble nymph]

What the Rain!

[north mural]

I don't suspect they'd lie about it, my idea was rather that they had it without knowing, ik that it's sometimes sold as a bundle and someone new to the game could not notice

[lyric moss]

yeah true

actually, since they'd probably think of Downpour specifically and not MSC... hrmm

Think everything's probably fine for now? But good to keep an eye out

[north mural]

If they roll up talking about some pipeyard later I'll retouch the topic

[spare trail]

oh cas didnt ascend any of the iterators );

[spare trail]

considering the entire dlc is dedicated to it i wouldnt be surprised

[proven wasp]

Hey eeveyone

is there a term or slang for someone who's on their first playthrough but seems to know a heck of a lot about the lore? xD

even to stuff they'd never meet as surv or monk

[dark reef]

there is right

[atomic locust]

very loosely, but yes

specifically for Survivor/Monk

the map was built with them in mind 🫴

[dark reef]

is there one for hunter?

[atomic locust]

not really? not one I can easily identify

we can tell that Survivor has one because of the places where the game gives you tutorial popups

(and the overseer stuffs)

the last little bit of the game is more Vibes-based but it's decently clear where the game wants you to go

[dark tiger]

Hunter is rather ambigous. The most immediate path is to take Sky Islands before eventually getting to FP but there's nothing in the game to explicitly tell you this like Iggy

[atomic locust]

Outskirts-Industrial-Garbage-Shoreline-Shaded-Leg/Underhang-Five Pebbles-Wall-Chimney (really only that tiny upper bit)-Islands-Arrays-Subterranean

[dark tiger]

starting with the Neuron and with previous experience probably tells you to head to the nearest Iterator, with SI > CC being the fastest path. but shrug

[dark reef]

i got one in CC

before

[atomic locust]

drainage is the only region left out of this

the forgotten child of videocult

[dark tiger]

drainage feels like a region that was added in a patch later to give another avenue for getting to SB but it's always been there lmao

[dark reef]

and now that i think of it the general direction of the game is like this:
Right => Up => Left => Down

[atomic locust]

more or less

[verbal pelican]

tied between chimney and sub

[atomic locust]

I'm split between sky islands and sub but sky definitely has more BS

[dark tiger]

I don't think Sub is Harder but it is a lot longer so it's more likely for you to die there

[atomic locust]

(by BS I mostly mean stuff that isn't intuitive for a new player)

[dark tiger]

Sky Island is probably harder for its length

[atomic locust]

if you don't know how squidcadas work, Good Luck

[forest flax]

i really hate subterranean

[atomic locust]

farm arrays isn't hard, just a bit tedious

[teal timber]

Chimney Canopy is the most difficult relative to how hard it is to wander into.

[dark tiger]

Filtration system is mostly a matter of navigating the maze

[dark reef]

mine is probaby like this:

1. Sky isalnds
2. Subterranean
3. Chimney canopy
4. Farm Arrays

[dark tiger]

Chimney Canopy is pretty tough if you start at the bottom and make your way upwards. but if you're just going east to west it's fine

[atomic locust]

if you go through lower chimney then it's definitely up there (although not quite so much for survivor, mostly just the hell in the hunter campaign)

I got stuck in lower chimney for a bit in my first playthrough

my initial instinct was to go as far Up as possible (because up is usually significant in some way)

[verbal pelican]

i still get stuck in lower chimney

[dark reef]

also think that

i mean, it IS just three rooms

and large gaps

[north mural]

I think hunter intentionally wants you going to sky islands as you're a few rooms away and you also start with the exact karma to cross its gate on first cycle

Yeah in the surv "intended" route you only see three rooms of chimney

[cedar cedar]

overseer leads you through outskirts, industrial, garbage/maybe shaded, shoreline to moon, then either the overseer or the void spawn leads you to memory crypts which is a mostly straight like to five pebbles

five pebbles tells you to go west to subterranean, and from where you start itd be wall to chimney to sky islands to farm arrays to subterranean

but it doesn’t matter where you are on the world map west ALWAYS leads to subterranean i think

[uncut prism]

Well, West from Sub is Outer Expanse tbf

[cedar cedar]

assuming vanilla

but also outer expanse is locked on your first playthrough so

[uncut prism]

True

Still got me confused when I was hunting for Depths and somehow made my way there LMAO

[cedar cedar]

i dunno what else there is in downpour that might be weird

[uncut prism]

West from Rubicon trust /j

Oh, West from Pipeyards and Drainage leads away from Subterranean technically

[cedar cedar]

i mean rubicon is in the depths as is so idk about that one

[uncut prism]

Oui

[cedar cedar]

yea but my point is moreso

[uncut prism]

Yeah, if you keep heading West

You’ll always find Sub

I’m just jesting lol

[gilded smelt]

@north mural

Edit ur message fast

He calls moon "dot"

lol

take that in mind

he doesnt know her name is "moon"

[north mural]

True

Edited to imply only referring to the region names

[gilded smelt]

ok

[plush lichen]

I havent been in oillies thread bc I thought he was long donr with the monk and I didnt want to spoil myself.

Im here to ask if anyone knows if he's already seen the apparition of another slug in a shelter on monk.

Cause I want to talk about my theory with him about it but i want to make sure he actually seen it

[uncut prism]

Question, does Swoon know that you can be down one Karma from max and still unlock Echoes?

Should someone tell them?

[north mural]

They don't know yet that they're supposed to find echoes as hunter

So no don't tell anything until they cross that bridge themselves

[quasi stirrup]

they'll likely figure it out on their own from echo effect in nearby rooms as well

[uncut prism]

O h

Oops

Lucky I haven't yeah

[uncut prism]

They've been resetting after each death, so...

[quasi stirrup]

seems like they just need more encouragement to keep going even after a couple deaths in that case which i saw you and sarc did

[uncut prism]

Fair

[atomic locust]

✍️

I guess as far as Hard Regions go, I probably should've included the exterior

maybe I could've done final six

[sour bear]

i would have voted farm array but i didnt see it

exterior was really hard fo rme in my first game as i died like 200 times there but now its like super easy so

id rather be in SI than LF any day of the week 🥹

[atomic locust]

strange

what do you find particularly difficult about farm arrays?

[sour bear]

deer

thanks for watching

i hate some of the SI platforming but throw boosting is just too good

[sacred fox]

SI platforming is just so hit or miss for me

If you know how deer work it's easy and it's not nerve-wracking like SI can be

I'd rather LF than SI any time

So much so that my hunter route is never SI

[sour bear]

just throw boost

[sacred fox]

Just throw a spore puff and set one down in front of you

[sour bear]

i will do that and then the deer will spin a wheel to pick either one of its 2000 bugs or land on the one tiny slot where it functions right

for example

or they just straight up go the wrong way. or dont move at all

or ignore the spore puff in the first place

or 12 of them sit on a pipe so that i cant go back in

farm arrays is where real gamers lose their karma

[sacred fox]

Sky Islands

Smells like cheese

There

I said it

[sacred fox]

To me there's too much room for error in the SI jumps that and my crazy platforming skills go out the window when I play RW

With deer it's like... if they don't come, shelter and then try again the next cycle, no biggie, plus a nice relaxing ride out of it

[hollow bone]

the rain deer can get annoying when they stop moving for 6 minutes and just sit there till i die from the rain since there isnt any shelter nearby

[sacred fox]

I usually just let go and grab on again repeatedly and it shakes them up enough to move

[hollow bone]

(this is the only reason i use the controllable deer mod it just makes it so much better to go from farm arrays)

also i have a question have any of you done the watcher completely?

since i still havent done so

[sour bear]

i try that pretty much every time

[sour bear]

many felpers have including me but some havent so dont post spoiler

[hollow bone]

okay good to know ill never mention it here again

[sacred fox]

Nope I haven't

My switch keeps crashing

[sacred fox]

#1356256638541103114 has its purpose if need be

[hollow bone]

oh nice

[sacred fox]

You should join my thread it's peak (and currently burning to the ground thanks to jolly co-op)

[hollow bone]

sure send it ill see the thread

[sour bear]

#1356687685145596036 [watcher spoiler thread]

[gray musk]

A bit late, but Cases Saint essay is so cool and detailed.

[dusty jetty]

spoil tag for washer please? 🥹

I immediately clicked without realizing it was watcher

[dark reef]

is there a vanilla one

[without downpour spoilers]

[quasi stirrup]

there used to, but the vanilla and downpour felping thread got merged awhile ago

[radiant night]

If you have a gameplay question you could ask in #vanilla-spoilers too

[dark reef]

no like cause i dont have downpour

[tranquil mulch]

guide coordination pretty much can't work without downpour spoilers

since downpour-enabled in vanilla campaigns is fairly common, so you can't properly guide in vanilla FP threads without knowing downpour (as to know when to redirect to #1272670046434492426)

[dark reef]

alright then

i think i can work with downpour spoilers

[spare trail]

so real

underhang specifically (i died 500 billion times to the left side of underhang because i never realized there was a gate going upwards)

[cedar cedar]

is there a watcher guide coord gang

yes there is

wow thanks vera

[dusty jetty]

the voices

[uncut prism]

Glory do not read:

@sour bear ||Should I say that it requires pretty specific circumstances to access? That’s a decent clue that he can probably figure out quickly, and narrows it down a lot, but it doesn’t solve it||

[sour bear]

||i dont even know what shelter it is specifically i just know its in metropolis||

[uncut prism]

Same lol

So you think that’s a good enough clue?

||Otherwise he’ll be doing a wild goose chase for a whiles||

[sour bear]

||what are the circumstances needed to see it||

[uncut prism]

||Artificer campaign, or Surv/Monk in Expedition spawning in Metropolis||

[sour bear]

oh

[uncut prism]

||Rn he’s searching as Hunter, which is an impossible task||

||My hint would be: “You need rather specific circumstances to access the secret”||

||Boutta send him off on a wild goose chase as Saint frfr||

[verbal pelican]

rattuse

[quasi stirrup]

||my personal opinion is unless more hints are asked for, not to give any some new players prefer this sort of thing, and there's nothing more satisfying than being able to piece a puzzle together on your own||

[quasi stirrup]

goblet

[uncut prism]

You can check in #1462672773565513872 and decide for yourself whether he wants hints lol

[quasi stirrup]

||can always point towards this message a little, he is on the right track #1462672773565513872 message i would wait until he asks again though or wakes up he has leads||

context helps a lot though so thanks for the thread link because i didn't know where this was

[uncut prism]

o7

Fair enough

[quasi stirrup]

the hint you have is good too though

[uncut prism]

Thanks!

Maybe if he still can’t figure it out then

Also started another potential avenue - I have a few friends I got into Rain World, and who are new and spoiler-free, so I asked them to work together with him to try to figure it out

ARG moment

We’ll see if three of them working together can have a bit more fun figuring it out

[desert relic]

||gourmand can also spawn in metropolis expedition||

[dusty jetty]

I didn't know that

I thought only ||surv/monk||

also why are we spoiling all this

[desert relic]

this is why prob

[radiant night]

If someone is here and doesn’t want spoilers for this stuff they should leave the thread

[desert relic]

logically, yes

[radiant night]

It will only take one question outside of this convo to spoil them

[quasi stirrup]

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY WRAYKSONAS

THEY GOT MONO TOO

[grave token]

[uncut prism]

Oh huh

[radiant night]

We are an infectious species

[forest flax]

what is wrayk

[sour bear]

wraykium

[desert relic]

is that a this reference from #1387679198088401066
(if some of yall remember)

[north mural]

#1467639050016915476 message

Self explanatory

[grave token]

@hot hare please take a read through the pins in this thread

You aren't in any trouble btw, it's just protocol to ping people here

[quasi stirrup]

and feel free to leave once you've read them if you haven't finished all of vanilla and downpour yet and want to avoid spoilers

[north mural]

It's past midnight finally; it my birthday .. happy birthday .. it my birthday

[sacred fox]

It's your birthday?????

.birthday @north mural

[tender bloom]

*🎁jumps around excitedly🎁*

Sprinkles wishes a ✨happy birthday✨ to 🎉🍰🍨@north mural🎂🧁🍬🎊!!

[quasi stirrup]

omg you have a birthday after mxcanderis

HAOPY BIRTJDYA!!!

[tender bloom]

Birthday

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HAAAAAPY BIIIIIRTHDAAAAYYYYY TOOOOOOOOO YOUUUUUUUUUUU 🎉
HAPPY BIIIIIRTHDAAAAAAAAY DEEEEEAAAARRRR SLUUUUUUGCAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTT 🎉
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Requested by rattuse (405516109354237952)

[sacred fox]

BABBY HIRTHHAYYY

[grave token]

@north mural Happy birday!!!!

[north mural]

Or does mcxanderis have a birthday before me

[quasi stirrup]

mcxanderis id actuallg not real, i made her up

[fresh atlas]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!!

[quasi stirrup]

is mcxanderis even here

@forest flax

[forest flax]

whar? yeag

[lyric moss]

I wisheth thou a most positive experience in relation to thine anniversary of entering this plane of living!!!!!!!!!!
uhh i mean uhh
happy birthday!! 🍰🎉

[uncut prism]

Happy birthday!!

[proven wasp]

YOOOOOO HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!!

thanks for prior help in the server btw

[cedar cedar]

wha? the 9th?

[north mural]

Yes

[quasi stirrup]

#1468017731533279264 message @teal timber is this tunic text?

[modern harness]

I think I accidentally locked a vanilla fp post and idk what it was help @atomic locust

[atomic locust]

uhhh lemme check audit log

it should show that

"he ran through a world"

you just closed it though, not locked

I re-opened it

[modern harness]

A

Ok thanks

[radiant night]

Pls pls discord give us a confirmation popup!! I’ve done that before too

[sour bear]

i forgot about that

[silver musk]

HAPPY BDAY! 🎂

[verbal pelican]

HAPOY BIRD DAY!!!!!!!! I’LL GET YOU A BIRD TOMORROW I’M TOO TIEED FLR THAT RIGHT NOW

@forest flax YOU TOO

[forest flax]

THANK YOU!!!

[hoary verge]

Filtration system

[uncut prism]

Not the black lizors...

[modern harness]

Cas finally saw her first Stowaway

[uncut prism]

... Actually, I haven't seen one yet

Weird

Somehow

I know they exist but I've never seen one somehow

... Okay how tf have I never seen one

I mean I didn't beat Gourm sure

but what?

[hollow bone]

they appear in every campaign they are just extremely rare

Ive seen 3 in my 150 hours

2 were in subterranean the other was in pipeyard

[north mural]

I've died to 3

On my first playthroughs

[hollow bone]

oh

[north mural]

Two as saint in undergrowth one in pipeyard spearmaster

Nasty stuff

[hollow bone]

well i never died to them since i just spam the slide roll pounce and extended slide like my life depends on it

(since it usually does)

[uncut prism]

I have like 400h and have never seen a single one somehow

[hollow bone]

seems like you just got lucky, since they sleep in some cycles

[uncut prism]

oh, they do?

Huh

I'd say unlucky, I want to see them

I'm curious

[hollow bone]

they are like a stationary version of a dropwig that instead tries pulling you up

[uncut prism]

Yeah, I'm aware of how they work

[hollow bone]

i honestly got saved by one

[uncut prism]

I just haven't seen one xD

h u h

[hollow bone]

i got grabbed by a lizard then the lizard got taken by the stowaway

very kind creatures

i am often really lucky once i get bitten by a lizard

[uncut prism]

Insane

Very nice lol

[teal timber]

they are more or less designed to be a cryptid

there's quite a few around the MSC map (generally in cavelike areas) but they're very rarely actually awake

so you can easily go a whole playthrough without seeing one

@north mural

I'm not actually sure Ollie has seen a Leviathan

given how fast they went through Shoreline

and it's not on their list

[north mural]

Wow really

[teal timber]

they might have seen the albino one

[north mural]

Missing leviathans is crazy

There was one thread that called them a kind of lizard, could it be ollie? I forgor

Said thread was panicking by the assumption they'd have to kill the mega lizard for dragonslayer

[teal timber]

#1456460010916675826 message no wait I'm dumb

[tiny glacier]

Is it okay to say that I saw my first tentacle hook guy in spearmaster even though Cas has only seen it in Saint?

[teal timber]

uhhh hmmm

I think I would argue no on the basis that they don't really need to know that information anyways

[gilded smelt]

what is tentacle hook guy

are u talking about stowaways

never in my humble 400 hours of rain world have i even SEEN a single one of them

[grave stag]

I think I have seen stowaways thrice in my 1100 hours of rainworld. So they are quite rare

[cedar cedar]

so were they purposefully super rare

or were the values not tweaked to something more appropriate

[grave stag]

I think so

[nimble nymph]

Does The Watcher DLC change anything on other campaigns?

[teal timber]

it lets you get shelter failures

(which is funny since the Watcher themselves cannot get shelter failures, ever)

also

#1456460010916675826 message

[forest flax]

what a guess tho

crazy

[dark reef]

thats referring to saint right

[teal timber]

I mean

not intentionally

[dark reef]

what do you think he will guess next?

[uncut prism]

Interesting!

[uncut prism]

SAME

[crude jetty]

Another casualty for the bottom of the Leg pit.

[uncut prism]

Another one bites the dust

[teal timber]

Which thread?

[crude jetty]

#1399058987705700412 message

[teal timber]

Found it, thanks

[crude jetty]

Oh, you found it already.

Derp.

[proven wasp]

Woah did they just SPEEDRUN THE VOID? OMGG

[crude jetty]

Void% Speedrun let's go.

[dark reef]

do you think ollie will be afraid or excited

of hutner

think he'll take this back soon

[teal timber]

eh

hard to tell

Hunter is a very different style of game from the others

[dark reef]

i thought the food pips would be 5, 4 but insteadit was 6, 3

[radiant night]

67

[dark reef]

???

[radiant night]

Cube

[crude jetty]

Trunic spotted.

[silver musk]

No tunic spoilers around

[crude jetty]

Sorry. uwu

[north mural]

https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1471149448188006420

Soneone come round here when you have the time and clean up the misc downpour mentions

Like gutter

Ouhhh l need my fpepler role... it'll save so much time with this stuff....

[grave token]

I 💥'd the Gutter mention, I don't see anything else

[north mural]

Yea l think that was all lol

[radiant night]

Their pfp disturbs me

[uncut prism]

Question, how many are in the Inv Hall of Fame actually

[dusty jetty]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rlH14XhZKXjNYGhkEuNFcz1XYS_PykythEHC56ED6pE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.ojj3um51eq9g

I didn't count but it looks like less than 100

[uncut prism]

What…

Dayum

[dusty jetty]

there's definetely some people who beat it but didn't submit their run

but still, it's not a very common feat

hence why you should try it

[uncut prism]

A bit over a hundred

I counted but didn’t really bother with keeping an accurate estimate while scrolling down (mobile sucks)

So a bit over a hundred

[dusty jetty]

[uncut prism]

I see you’re one of the clears too tho!

I might try yeah

Any specific limitations like no mods?

I don’t intend to run cheat-y mods anyway but I do have some mods like Health Bars I might need to take off

[uncut prism]

Also I assume no glitches as in no killing Guardians with EGG to get a quicker clear?

Or Flashbanging them ig

[crude jetty]

Oh, people that beat Inv get to be in a Hall of Fame?

I didn't know that.

[dusty jetty]

yess now you do

[tranquil mulch]

@queen flicker Sorry for pinging you for no reason but tbh random pings spice up life and make it more interesting

[queen flicker]

Huh?

Im studying for an exam tmmrw what is it?

[crude jetty]

Huh. Well, I guess that's another incentive to actually give Inv a try.

[queen flicker]

Oh yeah, Im the guy who manages it

Check the pinned as well, it has a submission form

Oop this thread doesnt show it

[tranquil mulch]

ok yeah exam takes priority

[queen flicker]

Gimme a sec

[crude jetty]

Awesome. Will give it a look when I attempt it.

[queen flicker]

Here it is, Its a pinned comment on there

[crude jetty]

I already have a Watcher Thread, but I'd imagine if I wanna register Inv, I'd have to make another one in the Downpour First Playthroughs forum?

[queen flicker]

@tranquil mulch It would be so funny if one day I announced the release of new people who have done the Inv hall of fame in the actual server announcements lol

Im just imagining the chaos that would ensue lol

[uncut prism]

Ooooh nice

[queen flicker]

The rules for submitting is on the submission form, its just posting your images onto downpour spoilers then linking it in the form

[uncut prism]

Is HP Bars a “significantly easier” mod

[queen flicker]

Ye

[uncut prism]

Kk

[queen flicker]

HP Bars allows you to gurantee hits not killing you

[uncut prism]

I’ll just turn off all other mods then

Eh?

[queen flicker]

Oh wait, I mistook what you said

No HP bars is fine

[uncut prism]

No, HP Bars mod as in seeing the HP bars of other creatures

Oh lmao

I mean it still makes it easier tbf

Since you can be certain if something is dead

But like… always double tap anyway

[queen flicker]

Basically anything like the tweaks mods or anything that has a tangible effect on gameplay is bad

[uncut prism]

Mod isn’t that reliable

Mkay

[queen flicker]

I usually just rely on context clues, it is very easy to realize when something is in "Bleedout" once you understand how it works

[uncut prism]

Might turn it off just in case :hmm:

Oh absolutely

I still like HP Bars but at this point I don’t really need it

The mod is a bit unreliable anyways, sometimes the HP bars don’t appear

[queen flicker]

Fair

Imo I think something like Scrolling screens is pushing it, Imo its fine but it gives a major advantage

[uncut prism]

Fair!

[queen flicker]

But thats about the extent of whats allowed basically

[crude jetty]

Are Vanilla Exploits allowed (except for Guardian skip)?

[queen flicker]

If its allowed for speedruns its allowed here

(I use it all the time, I only turn it off in certain areas)

[uncut prism]

Yeeee

[crude jetty]

[uncut prism]

Kk, noted

I’ll run the mod list by you when I get around to it o7

[queen flicker]

Basically

If any of yall have played commitement, just rely on the mods/rules you used for that run

If you have not

...Yall should try it

(I am slightly biased)

[queen flicker]

Will be late to responding since I am studying, but I'll give an answer sometime tmmrw

[uncut prism]

Lolll

Good luck studying!

[queen flicker]

Thx

[crude jetty]

Yeah, good luck on your exam. You got this.

[verbal pelican]

has shiny new role icon

[forest flax]

bites rattuse

[quasi stirrup]

@verbal pelican @north mural @ashen drift congrats new felpers

kills you.

[forest flax]

[nimble nymph]

Slugs who Felp:

[sour bear]

this is LITERALLY me

welcome gobbler and sarc (im not typing all that out)

[silver musk]

Ping me when it happens

[dusty jetty]

ping me as well

[verbal pelican]

ping sol too

[tranquil mulch]

ping @silver musk when it happens

[silver musk]

True

Inv helpers today

[crude jetty]

Pfft. I might.

It wouldn't be a fully blind Inv playthrough though. I've been spoiled of a few of the things that happen in that campaign. I just never went through that mess myself.

Still gonna be one hell of a mess when I get to it.

[silver musk]

[dusty jetty]

watcherpopcorn

[proven wasp]

watcherpopcorn

[crude jetty]

monkpopcorn

[desert relic]

monkwallpopcorn

[sacred fox]

popcorn

[lyric moss]

popcorn popcorn

[hoary verge]

Possibly the only one she'll ever see

Lol

[quasi stirrup]

@proven wasp what do you mean by this, like meeting fp and dying in the same cycle?

[proven wasp]

Yeah, if you meet five pebbles, and then die (withoud sheltering), and then visit him again, he will yap at you and regen your karma at max, effectivelly giving you infinite continues to either scale down the wall or go through his superstructure into underhang

should have elaborated better tbh

[quasi stirrup]

that's quite interesting and pretty cool tbh

...though, the felper in me does want to say i'd be careful revealing mechanics like that to the player

[proven wasp]

Eh he wants to go to garbage wastes as hunter, and is scaling the wall WITHOUD a vulture mask, he's cooked enough

[quasi stirrup]

it's a first playthrough though, you only get one of those

[proven wasp]

the one person to beat hunter withoud a guide

[quasi stirrup]

and scaling the wall without a mask is harder but not impossible

really it's up to them and if they ask for help or advice that's fine, but struggling and replanning your routes is the main part of the campaign

[proven wasp]

coffe

[quasi stirrup]

my new favorite emoji

[north mural]

Scaling the wall as hunter is no issue

You will die a million times but there is no penalty

[proven wasp]

Yeahhh

Hopefully he knows that and isn't like "Welp i just ran outta karma gotta reset guys ;-;"

[north mural]

Your cycles won't tick down from deaths, just sleeps. And the gate at top is 1 karma. Can just throw yourself at it again and again

[proven wasp]

does he know about this?

[dusty jetty]

even if he doesn't, it's not a big deal if it's a first playthrough

[proven wasp]

Hopefully he does cuz watching him reset there will hurt xD

[dusty jetty]

part of the experience is dying and struggling, and the feeling of not knowing with certainty what will happen adds a lot to many players

[dusty jetty]

part of rain world

lots of suffering

[proven wasp]

rip

[sour bear]

Scaling the wall without a mask is easy

You use masks????

[desert relic]

fr

[quasi stirrup]

harder than if you had the mask but not impossible

i use lizard rep so... i don't really know what the actual usual difficulty is

[gilded smelt]

im finally back to rainw orld

I FINALLY HAVE A PC
YAY

[teal timber]

This isn't true, is it? I wish it was...

I would mod it in but, like. who cares

[sour bear]

dont u spawn at the cycle start

[teal timber]

yeah I think so

and it's not like you need much time to reach the nearest shelter

[dark reef]

i thought it was quarter?

[teal timber]

It is

[dark reef]

how does that get mistaken to half??

[teal timber]

small UI

I wonder how long it'll be before the notice the countdown

They've pointed out that it was Cycle 19 and then that it was Cycle 18 but I don't think they connected the dots.

[dark reef]

did they?

i was to lazy to read messagwes

[teal timber]

fell into the trap of "that must mean they've been hunting for a while already"

[dark reef]

oh cycle 18 not cycle 19

[dark reef]

oh nvm

[sour bear]

ollie doesnt nkow that echoes increase the karma meter they will need to find out

ollie had one echo set karma to k10 whlie meter was already maxed

[teal timber]

true

though

if they go to Five Pebbles they will find out from Six Grains of Gravel, Mountains Abound

[sour bear]

ollies gonna be ni for a surprise when they find out pebles only sets max karmka to whatever an echo would do

[nimble nymph]

Oh man.

[teal timber]

[nimble nymph]

They're not prepared for Subterranean.

[crude jetty]

If only they knew...

[sour bear]

longer than you think lol

[crude jetty]

Oh dang, was meant to put this in the FP coordination channel. Derp.

[sour bear]

this is fp coordination

[dark reef]

this is the channel

[crude jetty]

Good lord I'm half asleep.

[dark reef]

this happens to me commonly

[crude jetty]

Sorry, it's like...

3 am for me.

Should have been in bed half a cycle ago.

[teal timber]

Acuéstate

[crude jetty]

Yeh, might as well.

[teal timber]

Tick tock

[sour bear]

# posting

[proven wasp]

Emesis blue?

[dark reef]

its like 8 for me

[sour bear]

the cycles

[teal timber]

Well, we're counting attempts, not cycles

[teal timber]

@spare trail don't draw attention to the cycle thing

They will notice in time.

[proven wasp]

Btw can you tell aercian that their "about me" is actually outdated plsss

[teal timber]

I meeeaaan

Watcher 1.5 is currently out

[proven wasp]

But what about 1.6

[teal timber]

eh technically "Watcher 1.5" just means v1.11.*

[proven wasp]

So it is THAT outdated? Oh my void

[teal timber]

well it's still v1.11.*

v1.11.6 IIRC

[proven wasp]

Oh i see

[dark reef]

wait whats the current version?

[teal timber]

v1.11.6 I think

[dark reef]

i thought it was 1.9?

[proven wasp]

Geometry Dash 1.9 update "Nine Circles" hardest demon ever

[teal timber]

that was the version that introduced Downpour

[dark reef]

oh

[sour bear]

the server policy is that spoiler content in bio/pfp ect is allowed but is a spoiler when someone brings it up

[dark reef]

someone brang up my username in #offtopic-agenderal

[sour bear]

is tha t the hunter food bar

🥹

[sour bear]

#1461771937901711431 message :
arent we up to day 735 of thanks andrew??
#downpour-spoilers message

[teal timber]

@gritty peak #1456460010916675826 message
They don't know about the sickly part yet. So try to avoid calling them that

[gritty peak]

Sorry ;n;

Won't happen again

[teal timber]

No worries! Wording messages in #1269808032276152451 takes practice

[cedar cedar]

thinking about downpour spoiling the countdown in the character description

its a little unfortunate but ig it makes sense when hunter is now explicitly the odd one out out of all of them

instead of being the odd one out of all of them but less slugcats

[desert relic]

where

[proven wasp]

Ur pfp is not a orange lizard wiping it's face on the floor anymoreee

[desert relic]

im yellow lizard wrayk

[proven wasp]

omg

[desert relic]

i actually didnt know that

also thats remix not deownpour

[cedar cedar]

oh

i , hmm oops

yet another remixless W

[desert relic]

dang

[cedar cedar]

i wonder if ollie would be interested in the collectibles if he had remix on

idk if the part he thought would be daunting would be collecting them blind or collecting them to begin with

[dark reef]

yes

[proven wasp]

And you are completely hungry, no food
Can't even starve withoud dying

[dark reef]

well uh i last hinbernated at 6, which then my karma dropped all the way to one

and the shelter is still closed

[proven wasp]

Go back to sleepp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dark reef]

ok noow it opppened

[proven wasp]

Good luck hunter

o7

[dark reef]

and i died immediatly

[proven wasp]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[dark reef]

average day in CC

[verbal pelican]

@elder veldt heyy in the future please do not mention areas that you aren't 100% sure the player has been to

we're typically encouraged to give hints rather than direct answers

creature names are also a no no

here's the message i'm yapping about #1465100353677692978 message

[elder veldt]

Alright sorry

[verbal pelican]

very tempted to use my newfound felper poewrs that i got access to like 5 minute sago

[verbal pelican]

you're good

this happens to like everyone

🥹

[dark reef]

what are your powers?

[verbal pelican]

delete messagd

pin messgad

[quasi stirrup]

worth blasting imo

even if op saw already

go for it

[verbal pelican]

heh... time for my first blast

[quasi stirrup]

and you can be like

[verbal pelican]

BOOM

[quasi stirrup]

💥

[uncut prism]

Congrats @verbal pelican @north mural and @ashen drift!!

[uncut prism]

Deleted my own message

Rip Ghost Ping for Ollie

[uncut prism]

Welp someone went and drew attention to the countdown

[crude jetty]

Maybe Ollie hasn't seen it yet.

A felper could nuke it at their discretion.

[uncut prism]

Nvm

They deleted the message on their own

Tho tbf all three of us talking about it kinda draws attention to it too xD

[crude jetty]

#1456460010916675826 message

I would delete from this point downwards, personally.

[uncut prism]

Nah, it’s already obvious that something’s wrong with the way you teased it and I teased it

And they already know it too

It’s fine lol

[crude jetty]

I tease about a lot of things. Not all need to be truthful.

Apologies if I messed up though. Tried being vague and dismissive, but as the conversation kept going my replies might have drawn further attention.

[uncut prism]

Eh?

I’m not blaming you lol

Just pointing out that atp, unless we wipe the convo, it’s already very clearly hinted that Ollie’s assumption is wrong

Just that the exact way it’s wrong isn’t stated

[teal timber]

@vagrant lotus @crude jetty#1456460010916675826 message You do realize this is their thread, right?

probably shouldn't be drawing attention to that

[crude jetty]

I know.

[vagrant lotus]

lemme delete it

[teal timber]

yeah, I don't think they've seen it, let's just delete it

[crude jetty]

That should do it.

[teal timber]

relatedly @dark reef #1456460010916675826 message they still don't know about the countdown, don't say any more

and uhhh
@modern harness #1456460010916675826 message
Deletion request, since they're offline. Just to be safe.

wait you're also offline

@silver musk ?

[silver musk]

[teal timber]

a bunch of people accidentally started talking about the cycle countdown in Ollie's thread
everyone deleted their messages except Neko, who's offline

[silver musk]

Ok I nuked everything

[crude jetty]

[teal timber]

[silver musk]

[desert relic]

nuke

[dusty jetty]

💥

[cedar cedar]

cant believe people ruined the surprise cancer smh we were halfway there

[crude jetty]

They did not see it, so the surprise has not been ruined.

[uncut prism]

Sorry!

Thanks for nuking

[hoary verge]

Phew lol

[grave token]

You should become a felper

[teal timber]

I have been told that many times

I should start keeping count

[cedar cedar]

actually someone brought attention to it already but nvm

i dont actually know if anyone ever made it all the way to c0 without realising it ticks down btw

it sounds like a fun hypothetical thou

[teal timber]

oh definitely

that's happened quite a few times

[uncut prism]

Suddenly wondering... How old is Hunter?

Or Spearmaster?

A fair few of the Scugs can be reasonably expected to be decently old, eg. Riv, Artificer

Gourmand even

Surv and Monk are obviously fairly young

Hunter though... If they were engineered with the rot by accident, then they'd likely be incredibly young, maybe even moreso than Spearmaster; Spearmaster, too, might be pretty young

Would be kinda funny if Hunter is the youngest of the cast

[crude jetty]

Hmmm.

If you want lore answers, you should probably go pay the Lore channel a visit. They'd give you a more detailed answer on the topic.

Provided you survive the beatdown if you make any mistakes.

[uncut prism]

:hmph:

Fiiiine

[verbal pelican]

tyyyy

[crude jetty]

#1456460010916675826 message

They're reeeeeally staring at that cross mark.

Welp. Cat's out of the bag. Ollie noticed the cycles go backwards.

[forest flax]

@ripe pebble make sure to not refer to content unless you are sure the op has witnessed it

omg that was not the correct ping (i'm so sorry)

@manic breach

[dusty jetty]

uhh????

there's rot on hunter's back?

[ripe pebble]

hi

[forest flax]

they both start with lui i messed up my bad

i did not mean to ping you

[dusty jetty]

I thought it was a fan headcanon

[manic breach]

yea i deleted it mb

[ripe pebble]

okay okay XD

[forest flax]

all okay

[tranquil mulch]

nah

you do get to see Hunter's back in ascension ending and also I suppose in the curl-up animation

there's a relatively common misinterpretation of Hunter's hibernation screen as being them lying on the front, turning the scar on the thigh seen in the character selection screen into a cyst on the back

[crude jetty]

Some people think it's a rot cyst on his back, but other people think it's not really his back. It's more his thigh, and the cross is just another scar.

[tranquil mulch]

but it breaks apart if you pay attention to some details of anatomy that don't make sense with them lying on the front instead of the side e.g. the foot or the tail position, or the hands placement

[dusty jetty]

I know that but damn, I really never noticed it in the sleeping screen

that's sick

[dusty jetty]

ohh

[crude jetty]

#1456460010916675826 message

Peak raindeer moment right there.

Poor Ollie.

[crude jetty]

https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1472301202753585407

And a new Hunter run.

We'll see how it goes.

[teal timber]

I wonder if Ollie will actually reach Subterranean.

If they do, there's a red centipede in the Centipede Pit

OK they totally will

[north mural]

Many players interpret the scar as rot cyst (and the sleeping position does look pretty uncomfy to be a thigh), it's got no concrete evidence to verify it but if it's a commonly appearing consensus it's a valid interpretation

[dark reef]

but doesnt hunter have the rot?

[north mural]

Leaving out downpour from the table we know via qna that hunter's illness IS a manifestation of rot/corruption, via it being said it's 'related' to five pebbles' illness

Rot is clearly a wider world issue that can spark in organic matter from karmic issues or genetic tampering, it's not appearing for the very first time in pebbles

[uncut prism]

I wanna tell Ollie there's a Server Challenge for Hunter with 0 Cycles, buuut

Spoilers

Sigh

[north mural]

Cancer but nore spiritual/intrinsic

[teal timber]

from the Fissure pearl it seems the Local Group already knows what the Rot is

[north mural]

Yup

[uncut prism]

Mhm, NSH claims that the reason for Hunter is "degrading equipment"

[teal timber]

they just say "Five Pebbles got the Rot" and everyone already knows what they're talking about

[uncut prism]

"his rot is terrible, it's crawling down his walls"

And such

Yeah

[north mural]

It being called The Rot verifies its a pre established knowledge

Another appearance is the farm arrays thank you letter

[teal timber]

The reciept?

[north mural]

Blessing the crops to not develop a number of diseases, one of which was "Inheritable Corruption" l think it was worded

Has to be the rot

[uncut prism]

Oh what

[north mural]

Corruption is used in code as a name for rot and is used by moon talking about garbage wastes, pebbles dumping a fit of corruption

We'll have to treat em as synonym names in lore

[crude jetty]

He's just trying to do his first Hunter run. I'd say it's a little early for him to get involved in server challenges yet.

[uncut prism]

Interesting!

[uncut prism]

No, it's just teasing

Because they have a feeling 0 Cycle is a bad thing

I want to "reassure" them that 0 Cycle is fineeeee

"reassure"

But no, it's a spoiler in and of itself, since it indicates 0 Cycle isn't instadeath

I'm specifically trying to imply permadeath doesn't occur

So far

[quasi stirrup]

it's best for them to experience the 0 cycle event anyway without pokes

the reset campaign button is always there

[north mural]

Ideally you should imply nothing in neither direction

[uncut prism]

Yeap

Which is why I'm not saying anything

[crude jetty]

I'm not sure how much reassurance it is for Ollie that it is technically possible to beat Hunter past cycle 0, considering the requirement for it is... Well, a no death run beyond that point.

[north mural]

Just sit quiet and let them question by themselves and be surprised eventually

[teal timber]

I usually avoid explaining RWSCs unless

• they've already beat the campaign
• they qualify for one mid-playthrough (rare, but it's happened before )

[crude jetty]

And they died plenty.

[uncut prism]

More like... They said "if I fail to beat Hunter, I might shift to Downpour" and I replied "Wdym? Maybe if you get too frustrated"

[teal timber]

yeah best to just not say anything here

[uncut prism]

Hence, "reassure"

[uncut prism]

Oh damn lmao

[uncut prism]

Yeah, just tempting xD

[vagrant lotus]

it kills me inside a little to see ollie refer to iterators by pearl and cloak but atleast downpour will solve that

[north mural]

I mean it's not a bad idea doing one hunter run, failing it, playing downpour, returning to hunter with better experience is a pretty slick arrangement that many ppl do

[teal timber]

No it's fun

[vagrant lotus]

is it considered too much if we hint them towards some of the broadcasts?

[north mural]

It's also a natural unhelped way for players to possibly meet the HLL

[vagrant lotus]

cause i feel like its super important when they play sm

[teal timber]

That's what I really mean by "play Hunter but not commit to it" but obviously I can't elaborate until they've finished a run

[uncut prism]

Dot.

[uncut prism]

Yeap, more that I specifically phrased things to imply stuff lol

[teal timber]

Not broadcasts, but maybe giving them a hint about pearl lore?

[north mural]

Yeah pearl and cloak are both pebbles

Moon is Dot

[uncut prism]

Oh lol

[vagrant lotus]

i might be biased because it makes me tweak a little when players dont get obvious hints at first

[uncut prism]

Nah, I have a newbie player I talk to outside this server who doesn't even know about pearls

[quasi stirrup]

generally in my opinion it's best not to hint unless necessary, Ollie has always said they don't want that

[uncut prism]

He's beaten Surv and Artificer

he knows Pearls exist for Scavs

he has no idea you can read them

[vagrant lotus]

i mean

[uncut prism]

It's hilarious

[vagrant lotus]

five pebbles and looks to the moon come on

[north mural]

Ollie beat arti??

[uncut prism]

OUTSIDE THIS SERVER

[vagrant lotus]

like HOW do you not get thats their name at first glance

[uncut prism]

Lmeoooooo

[north mural]

Ohh missed that

[teal timber]

... those are NOT normal names

they are also the region title

[vagrant lotus]

yes but u dont name a superstructure that

like what could that POSSIBLY stand for

[quasi stirrup]

i don't think we should like

[teal timber]

you don't name a person that either

[quasi stirrup]

talk down on new players for not getting things

[dark reef]

he beat artificer??

[uncut prism]

Two people failed reading comprehension

[vagrant lotus]

no thats not my intention at all it just makes me die inside 😭

[north mural]

Ollie will guaranteed find out on his own the names in Hunter, don't overfuss it

[quasi stirrup]

even things that are more obvious not every player is guaranteed to understand, it's the same with puzzle games

[north mural]

The neuron dialogue is very straight abt it

[quasi stirrup]

yeah

[vagrant lotus]

oh true

ok thank god

[uncut prism]

Diff player outside the server LMAO

[uncut prism]

It's funnier that way, lets me lure them into dying in hilarious ways

[dark reef]

oh

oh now i get it

[vagrant lotus]

does ollie still have the neuron?

[uncut prism]

^^^

[vagrant lotus]

if not im gonna cry

[uncut prism]

I doubt it matters

[tranquil mulch]

<@&1121561237826838600> moment?

[quasi stirrup]

i don't think so

[uncut prism]

Ollie can't make it in time, Karma Gates

[vagrant lotus]

😔

alright bro get to downpour its over

[uncut prism]

They're at 0 Karma rn iirc

And 8 Cycles left

And they're going through Sub to reach Moon

[vagrant lotus]

its jover

[teal timber]

one person in one of the older first-playthrough threads got <@&1098342942684500060> IIRC
among two others

[uncut prism]

No shot are they making that

[quasi stirrup]

yeah i can understand that it's just if Ollie were to ever check up on here it would be really demotivating to be talked about in that way

[uncut prism]

What's Safari again?

[vagrant lotus]

ye ye

ollie if ur reading this in the distant future i apologise

[north mural]

I've done like a dozen flytraps without even trying and l never record em

[vagrant lotus]

i wish there was a way to somehow like push them towards the pearl reading part without spoiling much

[north mural]

The sky islands tall tube, flytrap farming simulator

[vagrant lotus]

its so important

[teal timber]

I think a hint is fine, if they finish all three vanilla campaigns without noticing

a small one

[vagrant lotus]

true true

[quasi stirrup]

then again, there is spearmaster

[teal timber]

all three red species on screen at once

[teal timber]

that's why I say that

Spearmaster kinda assumes you'll understand pearl-reading.

[uncut prism]

Red Lizor, Red Centipede, and what

[teal timber]

red spider

[uncut prism]

Oh

[teal timber]

note that this was as the Survivor

[vagrant lotus]

spearmaster doesnt really nudge u towards the COLORED pearls being able to be read though

[uncut prism]

... Hmmmm, how would you do that...

[teal timber]

(in Subterranean)

[uncut prism]

There's no Red Centi- (Shaded)

Oh wow

[vagrant lotus]

could something be said like "perhaps you could bring "dot" a gift"

like after hunter

[quasi stirrup]

they may be able to make the correlation on their own though who knows

[vagrant lotus]

i mean i sort of doubt

[quasi stirrup]

really they seem against hints which is what i'm trying to keep in mind

[vagrant lotus]

as in a sort of joking manner but genuinely try to nudge him towards that

[uncut prism]

No need to give hints at all tbh

[quasi stirrup]

yeah

[uncut prism]

It's funnier like this

[vagrant lotus]

i wonder what hes gonna name nsh

[quasi stirrup]

Ollie doesn't want them and it's not like it's necessary atm even after completing vanilla

[teal timber]

vaguer hints exist

[uncut prism]

Hey did Ollie eat Dot

[uncut prism]

Nish.

[vagrant lotus]

23848gpt generate me a vauge hint

[teal timber]

#1291635638403338345 message

[vagrant lotus]

i would be confused af bruh

[uncut prism]

Oh damn that's a FANTASTIC hint

[vagrant lotus]

THATS A NOTHINGBURGER UR FIRED

[uncut prism]

Nice one.

[uncut prism]

Confusing? Yes

But it's amazing to imagine a player reading too deep into it

And carrying a useless pearl in hand the entire game