Old FP Guide Coordination [Archived]

[lyric moss]

I remember my trick to hide embed links in Discord messages wouldn't work properly on older clients and would just show the whole message, including the several dozen |s used to hide the link

For example, this message appears normal on most newer versions of Discord nowadays, just with an extra embed, but older clients would just see endless amounts of || after this message, I think.*** ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||​_​_​_​_​_​_ *** ******.
secret

[grave token]

Where's the link

[lyric moss]

And older clients would show the whole message like that because of a formatting thing that was only added later, with stuff like that

[quasi stirrup]

i remember that trick being used in the windchimes server a lot with dyno

[north mural]

I think pizza was the one doing most of em

[lyric moss]

Moth was the first one, I think. Then I asked it to teach me how for something of my own towards the end (though it doesn't have any Watcher spoilers, idk if I should share it here, but it was cool)

[lyric moss]

I only did one in Windchimes, but then I adapted it in watcher-spoilers to make one link without an embed and another invisible link with an embed to rickroll people

[quasi stirrup]

the randomslugcat conclusion you did

[lyric moss]

I wonder how many know that was me?

[lyric moss]

For example, here's a link to the s q u a r e video I referenced a bit ago! For real, I promise *** ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||​_​_​_​_​_​_ *** ******.
secret

(and here's how that message actually looks)

[quasi stirrup]

[lyric moss]

I know

It's very

[tranquil mulch]

i did the first one and actually managed to get people in #watcher-spoilers to believe it for like half an hour before someone decided to Copy Text

[lyric moss]

To be fair, it was very convincing! Especially with the formatting (I know from experience now how much fine-tuning that can take)

It's been a while since I've seen it, but I do remember that!

[tranquil mulch]

it's the You chose correctly! btw

[lyric moss]

Yep, that one

I remember studying both that one and the one with the embed link in it for a while when planning my own thing

[grave token]

@crude oxide what does the person mean by "red rot tendrils" I'm so confused

[crude oxide]

Monster kelp

[grave token]

Ah

[gray musk]

How does that even work if I may ask?

[lyric moss]

I have no idea, I just learned it from Moth.
...Who also has no idea, apparently

I could probably find a good answer online if I wanted. My guess is that that setup makes a lot of "hidden" symbols, and there's a limit to those that hides the rest of the message afterwards or somthing, but that's just a guess and could be wrong and simply misinformation, so don't take that as fact!

Can't find any answers online at the moment. Ah well.

[atomic locust]

this is honestly a really good explanation for the shoreline echo if it wasnt for the fact that it is confirmed to be the one in the leg in silent construct instead

good theory

[vocal token]

oh yeah how do they just like

pop up

[halcyon fog]

Maybe since saint is more attuned it can see more echoes that most

[atomic locust]

there are some crackpot theories that shoreline echo is riv since it only appears after, but the dialogue doesnt really make sense at all

it's definitely benefactor POV

[tranquil mulch]

imo it doesn't work because of dialogue

[atomic locust]

they hadnt gotten to it yet

[crude oxide]

Rivulet was a benefactor all along

[atomic locust]

it's an impressive deduction for someone who only just noticed pebbles fell on shoreline and that shoreline has the echo ping

[tranquil mulch]

what if rivulet just started a civilisation that died out by Saint's time

[atomic locust]

they chewed through the legs of the superstructure like beavers to dam up shoreline

[tranquil mulch]

a revolution in rivuletland, overthrowing RIvulet and installing Rivulet

[atomic locust]

bravo

[gray musk]

This theory unites all the other theories, it's perfect!

[tranquil mulch]

what if Rivulet is a Scavenger

[placid hedge]

what if scavenger is a rivulet

[vocal token]

is scavenger what Rivulet a if

Many things to consider

[gray musk]

rivulet a is scavenger if what

[tranquil mulch]

reddit comment thread (derogatory)

[vocal token]

i wouldnt know. i dont go on there

[crude oxide]

What's reddit

[crude jetty]

I dunno but it sounds like a red thing.

[lyric moss]

Who knows? It's not like we've redd it!

[crude jetty]

Might be the social network red lizards and red centipedes use to laugh at slugcat memes.

[vocal token]

u gotta brush ur teeth

i have never seen a red lizard brush they them teeth

[crude jetty]

I've never seen any creature brush their teeth in rain world.

[placid hedge]

@grave token i haz questionz ! what are conditions do become gelper ?

[radiant night]

ruffles probably the wrong person to ask

But I believe gelpers talk in #vanilla-spoilers #downpour-spoilers (insert watcher channel) and whatnot

[lyric moss]

I assume you meant felpers and not gelpers?

[radiant night]

• the lore channels

[placid hedge]

indeed

because me bad at gelping

[quasi stirrup]

g and f key are so close together

gfelper

[radiant night]

U just apply for felper and be active in the threads

[placid hedge]

yes i have been attacked by tooclosekeys ninjas

[radiant night]

as far as I know

[placid hedge]

oh oki

[quasi stirrup]

yeah, snaff go through them and announce new felpers every so often

[placid hedge]

ouki

now to find the application place

[quasi stirrup]

should be pinned here i think

[placid hedge]

oh

[quasi stirrup]

though it's also in the server announcements somewhere

[crude oxide]

The requirements are in the helper application form.

[placid hedge]

roger

many merci

found it !

[quasi stirrup]

goodluck!!

[placid hedge]

ok i need more time living here and i will be able to apply

[gray musk]

you don't need to be a felper to guide other people tho!

[placid hedge]

indeed !

its just so i can see the pings

beside that im already on almost every first playthrough thread

[sacred fox]

You can enable notifs for every time someone creates a thread, I enabled that for watcher FP 👀
Pings tho I don't have any suggestions

[grave token]

Felper?

[radiant night]

They usually don’t ping unless no one answers for a bit

[grave token]

For felper all you gotta do is just prove that you are active here in the threads and show at least have decent felping skills

[radiant night]

Spam ping ruffles in every thread to spice up his life

[placid hedge]

very interesting

[placid hedge]

fleper

[placid hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381715173693460520/1401658600132317306/soup41350puter.gif

[exotic agate]

100 new channels in list

All are threads

[grave token]

@topaz garnet take a read through the pins in this thread please

[topaz garnet]

Ok

[glad void]

is this actually unironically a theory that exists 🥹

[topaz garnet]

I did it-

[atomic locust]

I don't think it's a theory that people think has any solid evidence, moreso just a headcanon that some people choose to believe in

it isnt like there's anything to disprove it, technically

[glad void]

rivulet created lttm

[crude jetty]

Since when does Rivulet have a degree in politics?

Well, maybe not a degree exactly, but that echo was at least related to politics in some manner.

[atomic locust]

riv had the mark and we dont know where they got it from, so maybe they lived at slugcat school

🙄

[crude jetty]

Vote for feeshcat. Doing things fast and efficiently to deliver happiness for everyone.

Also occasionally delves in superstructure engineering and void fluid rarefaction instalation procedures.

[grave token]

@dawn vapor take a read through the pins in this thread

[grave token]

@dawn vapor awareness ping

[dawn vapor]

oh ok

[grave token]

If you have any questions about the pins, feel free to ask here

[crude jetty]

Welcome.
You have been bestowed the Mark of Coordination.

[gray musk]

I am going to start saying this.

[placid hedge]

btw is there some hints in order to unlock inv ? i dont want to get the answer and im afraid to search for hints without stumbling upon the soil

[lyric moss]

There's some riddles in this Discord that were meant as the intended way to figure it out, lemme see if I can find them

Found them!

They're pretty obscure, so feel free to ask for help if needed

[grave token]

Or be like me and use a remote to randomly button mash and find Inv

[lyric moss]

what

Incredible luck

[grave token]

Check the pins in my thread for proof

[placid hedge]

thanks !

yeah i suck REALLY bad at riddles, even more so if not in my native language so im gonna ask for little advices 😄

maybe its the konami code /silly

[lyric moss]

Hints for each riddle, gradually revealing a little more:

1. ||What could the pillar of inscribed bricks mean?|| ||Inscribed means something is written on the bricks.|| ||The "bricks" might not even be literal bricks and rather something brick-shaped...|| ||A pillar of them would mean they're arranged on top of each other. Where would you see an arrangement of bricks or brick-shaped things like that?||
2. ||What could "the desert" be? What's meant by "the door" there?|| ||What's the most desert-like place, would you say? And what kind of "doors" are there in the game?|| ||Maybe someplace very dusty? Where could that be in a rainy world like this?|| ||Gates seem like they could count as doors... but are they the only things that have doors?||
3. ||You don't need to do anything with the door itself, apparently.|| ||You might only need the knowledge from the door to use elsewhere...|| ||I'm unsure what the other half of the riddle means specifically, but it would seem that the key isn't actually a literal key... or is it?|| ||What keys do you have access to at this very moment?||
4. ||I have no idea what this one means, but it's not that important to solve the puzzle then, I guess ||

[placid hedge]

wow

[lyric moss]

I can provide more if you need them, but hopefully those will help!

[placid hedge]

many many thanks

i finish my anarchy online session and will go take a look

[lyric moss]

Good luck!

[placid hedge]

Thanks again !

[tranquil mulch]

bluntly stating what the fourth riddle is about:
||this is a reference to the pre-Downpour More Slugcats community, specifically referencing the fact that Artificer's drone got the very widespread fan name Sofanthiel||

[lyric moss]

ahh, I've been wondering what that was about for a long while! Makes sense.

[tranquil mulch]

either way, this is better to move to the first playthrough thread the coordination of which is being discussed, yeah?

[lyric moss]

Which one?????

I don'

OOPS

I haven't seen theirs

[tranquil mulch]

odd to discuss this in a place for the guide coordinators where the person with the first playthrough won't see it

[karmic leaf]

wait

if this is randi moth

then who is @hearty coyote

[tranquil mulch]

?ban @hearty coyote

[gray ruin]

erebi.dae has been banned.

[karmic leaf]

what

lol

[lyric moss]

but Bright Malus, Golden Cynictis is here, though

I do agree this is an odd place for it, but I don't know where else to take it

I don't think they have a thread, and they did ask in here too

Or am I missing something?

(I might be missing something)

[sour bear]

Why does it have that name anyway

[silver musk]

My interpretation for 3 and 4
3. ||The lock is the key to understanding that you need the key itself rather than the door. The key isn't the key but holds the meaning which used to solve the riddle||
4. ||You literally have to name the drone. Say it out loud ||

the hints are fire btw

[lyric moss]

I see now! Thanks

My knowledge gaps have been filled in...

[lyric moss]

I think it's basically a random combination of letters that were used when people reacted to ||an early version of the relevant train shelter|| (spoilers for the riddles, Bright Malus don't look!)

And then it also got the name later

So ||3 things have the name Sofanthiel now||

[silver musk]

||it was always said that the riddle is unfair and you can't solve it on your own without some community knowledge||

[lyric moss]

Yeah, I never did (but I really wish I had tried)

It'd definitely be impossible, I didn't get into Rain World until long after Downpour

[silver musk]

got spoiled on the fifth day after downpour release

[tranquil mulch]

I recall there was a sort of Riddle Rework Thing? unsure

@atomic locust hi

[silver musk]

||there WAS another version leading to the train. A long time ago. Couldn't find it||

[lyric moss]

||Makes sense, "door" feels like a misleading and confusing way of describing it||

[silver musk]

||the natural instinct is to try to open the door ||

[lyric moss]

||Impossible! How could I think of that! I have personally never opened doors, I just phase through them ||

||I don't actually know if I'd actually find the correct thing with that hint by itself, but that's just from my shrimple perspective (and again, community effort thingy (I think))||

SCP-article Coordination

[sour bear]

||simply eat the door||

[lyric moss]

||HOW DID THAT MAKE ME LAUGH SO MUCH ||

[sour bear]

8 food pips

[lyric moss]

yummy

[atomic locust]

I pushed the idea of making it a group project to establish a better version, but it never went anywhere at the time

[placid hedge]

i am

[lyric moss]

Indeed you are!

[vocal token]

i love watching people figure out the passage wheel

[grizzled prism]

#1403806582197715194 message pebble and some other soily words in first message

[glad void]

@unkempt wraith hey i think you're new to the first playthrough stuff so

guidelines are in the pinned messages

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388736746753097729/1388736752331522189/91197.gif

[unkempt wraith]

oh yeah! thank you! i did not know it was a whole role thing

i will be reading the guidelines now :3

i see now

i think if i get to monk status ill apply for the role 2 :3 but i was completely unaware that is my bad 0_o

[gray musk]

You don't need the role to help tho.

Feel free to guide so far.

[glad void]

the first playthrough helpers role just gives you access to deleting messages, viewing & talking in special channels, and using some commands iirc

[unkempt wraith]

oh do i still have perms for my own msgs then?

~ah yes i do. i will get rid of the spoilerey ones now then, cheers

[glad void]

happy first playthrough helping

[crude jetty]

I think the helper role provides some minor moderation permits, like deleting messages in case someone accidentally spoils.

But if you only want to help guide others and give them clues, you don't need the helper role.

[placid hedge]

dont worry, been there a few times too

[glad void]

#1403853374482546719 message is “carnivorous” a soiler here

[atomic locust]

vague enough that I don't personally see it as an issue

hunter isnt a carnivore, anyways :^)

[midnight plinth]

Wait so

The inv riddle

How do you solve it like where is the menu to type it in or whatever

Or is it just throughout the DP campaigns

[crude oxide]

You just type it in the main menu

[crude jetty]

The riddle tells you where to type it.

If you didn't discover where that is, you haven't solved the riddle.

"Chant his name upon 7 or 8 inscribed bricks of a pillar."

Where do you see a column of 7 or 8 bricks with letters in them?

[tranquil mulch]

7 or 8 is kind of funny

I understand that it's just there because Expedition adds a new 'brick', but it's a very specific number range to be unsure about

[sour bear]

Me with like 10 bricks

[crude jetty]

The start of the construction of the retaining wall.

[placid hedge]

i still not took a look at the hints yet, but its funny how i dont understand what u talking about after 800h into the game

[vocal token]

[crude jetty]

[placid hedge]

ok so i took a look !

1. : still no idea what it is referring to
2. : same
3. : ||keyboard||
4. :

im as dense as a neutron star

[radiant night]

the riddle is hard

[crude jetty]

It is difficult, yes.

[placid hedge]

ok i understood 1.

thanks to another hint up above

but the most important one, 2. still eludes me

[crude jetty]

My personal answers to the riddle (very spoily):

1. ||It's talking about the main menu. In the main menu, you can see the column of options for the campaign, the remix, the collections tab, etc... Each option is inside of a rectangle that is basically the 'bricks' that form the pillar. So whatever the answer is, it needs to be inputted in the main menu. ||

2. ||This one hints at the location of the answer in-game. The 'desert' refers to the top of Five Pebbles, where it's a wide expanse of nothingness with a city on top, all covered in dust, pointing to either Five Pebbles itself, or the city within. Where is it found exactly? Somewhere within the city. To be fair I kind of don't follow how this leads you to the location of the name, but it's located as a graffiti deep underground in the Metropolis, painted onto a train cart, not a door. This part kinda has me stumped a little, to be fair. ||

3. ||In order to access the city in the middle of the desert, you need a key to access it. The name of this key, the drone Arti carries, seems to be the answer, and this verse might hint that Arti's key is the means to unlock Inv. Some other people mentioned that originally there was meant to be a door somewhere else within the city that gives a more precise clue as to where to find the name, but I don't really know much about that detail in particular. ||

4. ||This one appears to be a reference to the fact that the name was originally given by the community, as another clue. You probably won't get this clue unless you've been a part of the community for a long while.||

[placid hedge]

wow i was so not there for 3

i understood 4 tho because i watch many many things on the internet

now im afraid to click on 2

[crude jetty]

You don't have to click on it.

Besides, I might have some stuff wrong myself anyways.

[placid hedge]

i mean on the soiler

[crude jetty]

I know.

Just saying, you don't have to read it.

[placid hedge]

too late

but its good to know

because i think i already saw it xD

im gonna go take a look

[lyric moss]

Good luck figuring it out!

[placid hedge]

thx !

i love exploring so it should be ok

(who would dislike exploring in rain world tho )

[crude jetty]

There are people who don't like exploring.

Some people are more used to the Ubisoft experience, with 40 different elements in a UI spanning the whole screen and an active GPS that always points you to where you have to go.

[placid hedge]

i mean in rain world community

[crude jetty]

So when they need to rely on their own navigational skills for a change, they get massively lost.

[crude jetty]

Oh, we do love exploring here.

[placid hedge]

noooooooooooooooooooooooo

i forgot that

well well well

time to change save file

[grave token]

My personal answer to the riddles
||button mash until you get it || /silly

[grave token]

Me when AFOP (Ubi game) has a mode that makes it so you have to explore to find the quests

[placid hedge]

maybe i will change scar color but i dont know for which color yet so gonna keep it that way for now

dont hesitate if you have any suggestion

it will help me find the solution to the riddle

[sour bear]

Suggestion: u should figure out the riddle

[placid hedge]

i mean, of course !

but colours will help me find faster

perfect !

now i can search

[sour bear]

Object

Uhh maybe u should stick to your thread though

[tranquil mulch]

this better be moved to the thread the guide coordination of which is being discussed

since this thread is only seen by the guides and the actual person with the first playthrough won't see it

[sour bear]

I think he's documenting here? I think? Dunno at this point

[placid hedge]

oh

i was not really documenting, just finishing the discussion about the riddle dont worry

with a little note of humor

tho im gonna make a thread because you make me want to document the thing

[sacred fox]

Definitely do you've seen my thread of RWSC and other nonsense

I've only actually documented a first playthrough of Saint, but needed a place to yap and do stupid things in as well

[placid hedge]

you are welcome to yap in my thread then

[grave token]

Or mine

[sacred fox]

[crude jetty]

I've never done an Inv playthrough before, but I know enough about it that it wouldn't feel like a blind one at this point.

Not sure how interesting that would be to document.

[sacred fox]

I've got one ig too, you can see how well it's going even tho I'm completely spoiled on inv

[grave token]

@lyric moss it's a precycle

[lyric moss]

Don't think so

That one's always flooded as Survivor

(Better image)

[modern harness]

Its just Like That™

[grave token]

Is it

[lyric moss]

We all make mistakes sometimes

[grave token]

I swear it worked when I played it

[lyric moss]

It works as Monk

And in Downpour, also Rivulet, I think?

And maybe Saint

Hmm... I'm unsure how to go about answering his question about what's up with the shelter, though. Maybe asking more specifically what he's wondering about?

[glad void]

it does work as riv i rember

[lyric moss]

(I really hope we didn't scare him off by immediately interrogating about removing the first message and asking about DLC stuff)

[lyric moss]

Do you rember if Sait?

[glad void]

no idea

it probably does work in sait

[lyric moss]

Yeah, I'd guess so. There sain't no reason why it wouldn't, probably

[crude jetty]

Yeah, that shelter in Shoreline is damaged as Survivor and Hunter. It is only available for Monk.

At least in Vanilla.

For Downpour...

It's broken for Gourmand too.

[grave token]

That'd be why I misremembered the shelter damage

[crude jetty]

And broken for Saint too.

I don't think it exists in Waterfront.

So it is only available for Monk and Rivulet, I think.

[midnight plinth]

Wait there’s a shelter there?

[modern harness]

Lmao
Yes

[sacred fox]

Even playing as its target campaigns I never use it just out of habit

[tepid thicket]

monk is so godlike in comparison he forced the shelter to work just for him

oh my bad i didnt turn off ping D:

im still not used to checking first

[placid hedge]

from what i understand you can ping ruffles instead

[crude jetty]

No worries. :3

[crude jetty]

#1404411663230439525 message

Is the fact that you can tame lizards and have them as pets a potential spoiler? Should we tell them to hide the references to that mechanic?

[north mural]

I think inv has that shelter functional

[radiant night]

Yea

[vocal token]

late but sexond opinion yes

[crude jetty]

The thread must have been eliminated by now. I think it was a second thread that someone had opened instead of making all their questions in one single thread.

[placid hedge]

yup

[quasi stirrup]

i bet he stole it

[crude jetty]

Well that flower looks familiar. I wonder where he found it. Probably not right at the end of the Shaded bridge right next to the shelter. That's technically slugcat's property.

And that would be stealing.

And scavengers definitely don't do that.

[sacred fox]

Shaded has a whole bunch of warp dens, the merchant can go all the way to the west side just by going through the dens on the wall

[crude oxide]

Scavs can't get there

[radiant night]

spoiler? #1402839450894991481 message

nvm op has been there

[radiant night]

@grave token what challenge

[grave token]

Samaritan

[radiant night]

ah I see
I was working on adventurer and im at the depths entrance
Only reason it halted is because I have to backtrack to get the singular jetfish to continue

[grave token]

What even is adventurer

[radiant night]

go to submerged echo before reaching max karma

[grave token]

oh.

[radiant night]

It shouldn’t be too difficult with jetfish

A lot of submerged isn’t underwater

[midnight plinth]

Oh yeah I forgot jet fish existed

[sour bear]

#1403853374482546719 message
Join this guy's thread immediately
(I think he's about to beat hunter)

[grave token]

Hmmm would Copycat be considered spoilers to Cas

[crude jetty]

Has Cas played through Spearmaster yet?

I'd say it's only a spoiler on the grounds that Cas doesn't know about Moon's state in Spearmaster, or about the existence of the cloak.

[grave stag]

#1356353210960580689

[crude jetty]

So they met moon.

Do they know about the cloak though?

[quasi stirrup]

i don't think cas knows about the cloak so i'd say yes soils

[sour bear]

I don't think they know the cloak

[quasi stirrup]

i'd at least wait until she plays rivulet

[crude oxide]

@grave token I believe Copycat has some spoilers for Cas so I don't think we should mention it

Does she know about the cloak in MS?

[grave token]

I don't think so

[lyric moss]

Would surprise me if she somehow did, she entered Submerged as Gourmand, suffered, and iirc left after not too long

I don't think I'd forget Cas finding the cloak

[quasi stirrup]

yeah, i remember that

...her suffering as gourm i mean

[sacred fox]

She knows SS exists, so I'm hoping in other campaigns she reattempts to get there and hopefully stumbles upon the cloak. In the meantime though yes it's a spoiler

[crude oxide]

SS is Pebbles. MS is Submerged Superstructure

[lyric moss]

Submerged Superstructure

Confusing when literal acronyms overlap with internal ones

[crude oxide]

Blame downpour devs

And shadow

LM (Waterfront Facility or Looks to the Moon) and DM (Looks to the Moon or Depths of Moon) are probably the most confusing ones

[lyric moss]

That whole trio is so hilariously confusing

Waterfront, Moon and Submerged I mean

[tranquil mulch]

@calm sparrow cam you explain yourself

[calm sparrow]

IT WASNT ME

[sour bear]

Wasn't it waterfront facility

[sacred fox]

I just abbreviate Submerged Superstructure as SS and Five Pebbles as FP noted tho

[lyric moss]

They should've given either Spearmaster Moon or Submerged Superstructure FP as an internal acronym

[crude jetty]

She already did Gourmand.
As Spearmaster and Artificer, Submerged Superstructure doesn't exist yet, because Moon has not collapsed onto Waterfront Facility.
As Rivulet and Saint the cloak is no longer there, as Moon already has it.

Only Survivor, Hunter, Gourmand and Monk can find the cloak.

She already finished Survivor, I think, she attempted it with Gourmand and failed, and there's no reason to go there as Hunter.

So unless she's planning to take a dip in Submerged Superstructure as the banana boy, who has less air capacity than anyone else besides Artificer, She might not discover it.

[placid hedge]

if i understand we can choose slugcat for some challenge right ?

[crude jetty]

Each challenge has its own assigned slugcat set.

[placid hedge]

oki

[crude jetty]

Some are only available for one single scug, but in others you can choose.

[placid hedge]

okidoki danke

[exotic agate]

[crude jetty]

For example, Conductor is exclusive to Inv, but all scugs can do Fashionista.

[exotic agate]

All the blame to shadow

[sacred fox]

Maybe she'll revisit it, who knows

[quasi stirrup]

i wouldn't be surprised if she wonders about the cloak when she meets moon as rivulet, though, and riv will help her map submerged and possibly revisit it in the future

[crude jetty]

Who knows?

[quasi stirrup]

it's better to wait, she picks up on things rather quickly

[crude jetty]

At least if she ends up asking about it, we could give her a couple of clues.

But we'll see when we get there.

[north mural]

And she entered with two pups no less

[lyric moss]

I forgot about that

[crude jetty]

Rip slugpups.

#1405261358802403408 message

Do we chalk up another victim for the pit?

[glad void]

why wouldn’t we

[placid hedge]

oh i see !

[crude oxide]

Yes, I forgot

[sour bear]

honestlyt real

[crude oxide]

My point still stands, dp names are confusing af

[midnight plinth]

fell in moon's pit twice earlier if that counts ;-;

[sour bear]

was it on your first playthrough

[crude jetty]

Technically it's a different Pit.
We could say it's the Bottom of the Leg Shelter Pit's twin.

[crude oxide]

Subterranean is underground and it's in outskirts of Pebbles' territory

[quasi stirrup]

tunnels can be misleading in the sense of thinking of filtration system or other tunnel and pipe like areas though

underground tunnels makes me think of filtration system first before something like subterranean train tunnels

[grizzled prism]

made me think of the train tunnels first personally
I might just be used to seeing people talk about SB and FS separately

[radiant night]

#1404992627119624294 message @placid hedge the same circular motion applies to "wiggle out of grasps"

which works on leeches too 🙏

pipeyard

[placid hedge]

wow

and if wiggle out of grasp is off, does it still work on leeches ?

[radiant night]

no

[placid hedge]

oki !

[radiant night]

at least i dont think so, i never tested that

leeches fall off on their own too

[placid hedge]

i will keep it off then, dont want the game to become too "easy"

[crude jetty]

I swear I spammed every possible direction to get rain deers to move and they wouldn't budge. I got particularly frustrated as Arti one time and began to give the raindeer concussive blasts until it began to move on its own. After, like... 5 blasts.

They're so stubborn.

[radiant night]

yea it has to specifically be a circle

i always go clockwise idk if that matters or not

with how it is i wouldnt be surprised

[quasi stirrup]

@placid hedge where are you trying to guide op?

[radiant night]

if they visited pebbles before moon he wouldnt have said anything understandable

[crude jetty]

Is that with, or without the better behaved raindeer option from the remix menu?

[radiant night]

you need to have tweaked deer behavior on to be able to influence them in this way

[crude jetty]

I see.

Otherwise there wouldn't be any way to influence them?

[radiant night]

i mean you can throw a sporepuff out in the direction you want to go the deer will follow it, it would take a few of them since they will stop where it lands but it works too

[placid hedge]

yeah they make all of us insane

[placid hedge]

this

[crude jetty]

I shall keep this knowledge in mind next time I visit the Farm Arrays.

[placid hedge]

@quasi stirrup forgot the ping

[desert relic]

i was scroling to find my first playthrough thread and found this epic typo

[placid hedge]

also had to stumble upon the thing with spearmaster and squickdadas or i would have never figured it out

[grave token]

@tropic ridge since you've shown an eagerness to help, take a read through the pins and if you have any questions just ask (make sure to leave the thread when you're done)

[tranquil mulch]

it doesn't matter clockwise or counterclockwise, but circle is most efficient because there are two types of bonuses:

• picking a direction orthogonal to the previously-pressed one
• pressing the opposite button in a specific direction, not reset when pressing a different button
  • i have no idea how to properly say this
  • like, if you press up, then the next time you press down, you get a bonus, even if you pressed any other button like left/right before, then the same for up, then the same for down, etc.
  • same with left-right

clockwise is efficient because with every single button press you obtain both of these bonuses

[radiant night]

ah i see
its weird how they made it work 😭

[modern harness]

Why is scaring the deer so needlessly complicated

[radiant night]

it should just read any sort of rapid directional inputs

[modern harness]

Everything in Rain World is canon except for the deer ai being bad

[radiant night]

rainworld

[grave token]

So that means Slugcat brutally jumping up and down by the rain is cannon?🥹

/silly

[modern harness]

Confirmed

[grave token]

[modern harness]

Wiggleflight is canon

[grave token]

It better be🥹

[crude jetty]

Karma door time travel glitch confirmed canon.

[crude oxide]

It is canon

Copycat is canon

[grave token]

Does mean canonically SM did a vulture warp OE gate skip🥹

[crude oxide]

Maybe

That's not Copycat so most likely not canon

[radiant night]

its not deer ai so......

[grave token]

It's SI

@placid hedge

[placid hedge]

ok thx !

[grave token]

Np!

[midnight plinth]

Yep

[sour bear]

then one of those times counts

[gray musk]

Ok, I am back after a week what did I miss?

[sour bear]

me beating watcher and making progress in my modded games (shall not be discussed here) and my deathless monk run which i finished today (though the game says i died once) and random cas shenanigans

[crude oxide]

Because ascension adds one death in the score screen

[sour bear]

Why is that

[crude oxide]

Idk

[crude jetty]

The Pit claimed another victim.

[crude jetty]

Is she talking about leeches and jetfish?

For a moment I thought it was about maggot darts and yeeks.
But spitter spiders don't spawn in OE.

[sacred fox]

Yes that's what she's referring to

[grave token]

@gray bear take a read through the pins in this thread

[grave token]

@gray bear awareness ping

[grave token]

Also very late response but-
Welcome back!!!

You missed some music theory in my thread

And me spoiler blasting a LOT of people

[placid hedge]

@grave token #1400364986013974548 message spoily spoily

[gray musk]

Solved!

[placid hedge]

thx !

[grave token]

I woulda solved if I didn't just wake up lol

But PTCtG got that

[placid hedge]

eep is for feeble scug

(just woke up too)

[atomic locust]

#1406725248191299634 message

@grave token tiniest of nitpicks; referring to the puppet as five pebbles gives away that he is the whole structure, so I prefer to just say like, "the robot in five pebbles" or smth more vague

[grave token]

I'll keep that in mind when I'm talking about 5P

Fixed

[sour bear]

5.7335 pebbles

[placid hedge]

vague pebbles

[narrow finch]

mysterious pebbles

[crude jetty]

Disclaimer: An amount of pebbles slightly higher than 5 was used in the construction of Five Pebbles.

[narrow finch]

either way, once you hear about moon talking about pebbles' state from moon in riv, it's a bit more obvious

this is a downpour fp after all

[sacred fox]

There are slightly more than five pebbles in five pebbles

[crude jetty]

Disclaimer: Looks to the Moon cannot, in fact, look at the moon, unless you find a way to grab the moon and bring it to her can so she can inspect it.

[placid hedge]

but we see a moon in the sky from the top of iterators

it ressembles our moon also

[crude jetty]

There exists a moon in the sky, yes.
But Moon does not have direct line of sight to it. She relies on her overseers to look at it.

Between Artificer and Rivulet, she had no way to connect to those overseers, so she can't look at it!

[placid hedge]

why would she be unable to see it ? we can see the sky on Luna too

[crude jetty]

Lemme double check.

Oh yeah, there is a crack of daylight coming from the ceiling in her can.

Nevermind. She can in fact look to the moon.

That checks out.

[sacred fox]

She probably saw many pictures before she collapsed

[crude jetty]

Ok, but what if...

Instead of looking to the moon, we make her look to the scug?

👀

Anyways, enough of my dorky ramblings.

[sour bear]

Watch to the moon

[desert relic]

washer reference!!!

[grave token]

@quasi stirrup (random ping yea ) do you happen to have the SM Moon pearl dialogue?

[quasi stirrup]

i can go get it

`What is this pearl you've brought along with you?

It has strange biological attachments. Was this pearl... from inside of you?

Let me take a look at what's written on it.

...

This is...

I assume you've already shown this to Five Pebbles?

I was not aware of the extent to which these affairs had reached the wider iterator populace. Nor was I aware of the lengths that the others were going in their attempts to get into contact with us.

If only I could...

Brave messenger, do you mind if I rewrite the contents of this pearl? After all, it already served its original purpose.

I will attach a broadcast key to it, signed with my communications serial.

...

To the far west of here, past the silently towering chimney stacks of Five Pebbles' complex, you will find a place of sunbaked lands with beautiful flora that straddle the clouds.

There is a communications array located there. It is the nearest one that may still be functioning.

Its systems should recognize and respond to my signed broadcast key. If you could please stop there on your return trip to Seven Red Suns, I would be very grateful. This is my only hope to get a message out to the local group.

Be careful, messenger.`

this one?

[radiant night]

sloog

[grave token]

Yup!

Thanks

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1334195644306296872.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=sniffa

[dusty jetty]

how do I repost the initial message when there's spoilers in it?

[tranquil mulch]

fpelper-only .repost command

without it, you can do a manual repost

or summon a random fpelper

[silver musk]

Considering you have manage message perms there

[tranquil mulch]

right

[silver musk]

It comes up to felpers anyway

Or you can just ask politely

Or post a link here. Felpers lurk often

[dusty jetty]

alright thx!

[quasi stirrup]

(hunter playthrough)

[grave token]

[modern harness]

[placid hedge]

foreshadowing of sadness

[crude jetty]

Hah. Passages in Hunter campaign.

Funny joke.

[grave token]

Passaging? In my Hunter campaign?

/silly

[sacred fox]

[sacred fox]

@flint ibex take a look at the pins in this thread if you haven't already, please

[flint ibex]

I was not aware this was here, sorry!

[sacred fox]

All good

[sour bear]

purple halves???

[midnight plinth]

!!

Felper halves and tank???

[gray musk]

Yes!

[midnight plinth]

!

[sour bear]

nah im gelper actually

[desert relic]

[sour bear]

[gray musk]

Betrayal!!

[sour bear]

oh wait wait wait no i typoed!! im actually a melper

[sour bear]

someone found a vulture in pipeyard

[midnight plinth]

yeah

that's a thing that happens

they're everywhere in pipeyard

[radiant night]

They like to crawl through the pipes

It’s not that uncommon from when I went there but idk as it’s only been a couple times…

[crude oxide]

Void system

[desert relic]

pipeyard moment (i was there only as spearmaster)

[desert relic]

i thought you were aelper

[sour bear]

Nah I'm a stelper

[desert relic]

maybe there is some light you can try to find in here, keep exploring!
is this vague enough? someone is in sh

[silver musk]

Shaded?

[desert relic]

yes

[silver musk]

Are they coming from shoreline?

[desert relic]

uhm im not sure, i believe they werent there so i suppose from hi

[desert relic]

so im not sure if my advice is vague enough

[silver musk]

I'd maybe suggest exploring the rooms with light so far and look for something to provide a light to you

[desert relic]

what about the message i wanna send rn
im just not sure how do i do word that 😵‍💫

[silver musk]

Doesn't directly apply to lanterns since the mice would probably the first thing they'd notice

[silver musk]

I think it works

[desert relic]

ill just send it for now

[crude oxide]

Didn't know you're a story helper too

[gray musk]

Has Cas learned about sliding to damage with Gourmand?

[crude oxide]

I'm sure she has

[desert relic]

ugh why all posts have to be made in the time when im either asleep or im 🐌 ;-;

[gray musk]

Oh, also new Felpers, you have been given the power to use .repost !

[quasi stirrup]

there was like 1 new post yesterday it was horrible

all us new felpers but nothing to felp

[quasi stirrup]

can't wait until i can do my first repost blast

[desert relic]

yes yes

[placid hedge]

don't worry, with me it will happen someday

[quasi stirrup]

repost blast you??

[placid hedge]

yes

[desert relic]

what yellow thing i dont remember that or theyre talking about 5p overseer?

[tranquil mulch]

this seems most likely

the chance of random overseers spawning increases with cycle number, after all

[desert relic]

randi, remind me of when you will reach 100

[desert relic]

somehow, i didnt know that

[tranquil mulch]

so it's very likely to only see the first random overseer fairly late

except in UW/LC/LM where the random check is completely bypassed

handled in WorldLoader.GeneratePopulation():```cs
if ((world.region.name == "UW" || (ModManager.MSC && (world.region.name == "LC" || world.region.name == "LM")) || Random.value < world.region.regionParams.overseersSpawnChance * Mathf.InverseLerp(2f, 21f, (game.session as StoryGameSession).saveState.cycleNumber + ((game.StoryCharacter == SlugcatStats.Name.Red) ? 17 : 0))) && (!ModManager.MSC || !(playerCharacter == MoreSlugcatsEnums.SlugcatStatsName.Artificer) || (game.session as StoryGameSession).saveState.cycleNumber != 0))
{
int num2 = Random.Range(world.region.regionParams.overseersMin, world.region.regionParams.overseersMax);
for (int num3 = 0; num3 < num2; num3++)
{
world.offScreenDen.entitiesInDens.Add(new AbstractCreature(world, StaticWorld.GetCreatureTemplate(CreatureTemplate.Type.Overseer), null, new WorldCoordinate(world.offScreenDen.index, -1, -1, 0), game.GetNewID()));
}
}

[midnight plinth]

so real

[desert relic]

i believe you showed me this

[tranquil mulch]

relevant part being Random.value < world.region.regionParams.overseersSpawnChance * Mathf.InverseLerp(2f, 21f, (game.session as StoryGameSession).saveState.cycleNumber + ((game.StoryCharacter == SlugcatStats.Name.Red) ? 17 : 0))

[desert relic]

yes i precisely remember you showing this

[sour bear]

#1407296465021173770 message
I unlocked them in survivor🥹

[desert relic]

whar

[sour bear]

I did

In fact I still havent defeated the food quest.. at first I thought it was like an inventory of things I could summon or something

[radiant night]

You don’t have to race to them 😭
there are plenty of us

[desert relic]

ye ik

just being goofy

and excited >.>

[quasi stirrup]

race to them

[grave token]

@gloomy heart please take a read through this threads pins

[gloomy heart]

you dont get it that guy is my friend im not helping him im just teaching him the game a bit

[grave token]

But still, you are spoiling your friend

And these threads are here as a way to get a spoiler free experience

[gloomy heart]

wdym im spoiling him

[grave token]

You started talking about the Mark of Communication, which is a spoiler at the stage of the game your friend is at

[gloomy heart]

ok sry didnt realize

sometimes i talk abt things and dont realize its spoiler

[grave token]

Anything someone hasn't seen or experienced yet is a spoiler.

[modern harness]

Also, please be nice

We try to foster a welcoming and friendly community and this is not it

[glad void]

if your friend wants the advice then by all means give it

otherwise do

just got pinged in art discussion???

[grave token]

Ping me there

[modern harness]

[grave token]

Ping me too!!

[sour bear]

Gotta go discuss the art I guess

[quasi stirrup]

is there somewhere all tutorial text is listed other than just in game files?

like on the wiki or a message here

[placid hedge]

yeah i wonder too

[quasi stirrup]

if not i don't mind putting one together

[modern harness]

I thiiiink some wiki pages might have them but Id have no idea where to look

Having them somewhere to just pull up just in case could be nice

[quasi stirrup]

yeah i don't know either where they'd be

they aren't on the individual slugcat pages from what i've seen

[placid hedge]

im afraid to find a wiki with some other spoilers in it

[narrow finch]

yes, in the downpour page

along with the gifs

[quasi stirrup]

do you have a link

[narrow finch]

no wait it's the remix page

i forgot links are auto banned in here right

i'll dm

[placid hedge]

i hope zelda is not banned too

[quasi stirrup]

they shouldn't be

probably

[narrow finch]

i dm'ed just in case

check spam if it got auto blocked

[quasi stirrup]

yeah i got it

i forgot about these ones ever existing

If you are struggling, try returning to a previous region. You may find a new path forward, or discover something that makes your survival here easier. However, there is nothing that stops you from overcoming this region's challenges as you are right now.

i vividly remember getting it when i was struggling in shaded citadel and i immediately backtracked 🥹

no idea what triggers it though

[narrow finch]

pre or post pebbles

[quasi stirrup]

pre pebbles and moon

[narrow finch]

ooh wow

good thing

[quasi stirrup]

that is quite interesting and specific

[late copper]

Amusingly, it's possible to get this message once you're past the point of no return in Drainage

[quasi stirrup]

getting told to backtrack in the new players drainage trap

okay i see all the tutorials that appear on the menu and that are added by remix, but not the campaign specific ones

unless i'm just not finding it 🥹

[late copper]

searching for the Hunter carnivorous diet tutorial yields nothing

[quasi stirrup]

guess i'm still going through the files

[modern harness]

Good luck in compiling the tutorials
Having them just here to grab would be nice for convenience sake lol

[shrewd timber]

This would have been nice to know

[quasi stirrup]

did aeter get in a new player trap

[glad void]

i remember getting this while setting up for a rwsc (before extra tutorials was banned)

[teal timber]

Best tutorial in the game

[desert relic]

@radiant night i somehow got scared wanting to .repost lmao

anxiety hit

[radiant night]

I was working on the title right after the repost when you already did it

[desert relic]

lol

the best fact my hands were shaking lmao

not sure if this is a hint but it feels spoily for me for some reason

@radiant night (mb for ping again cuz you might not see this-)
is this a hint?

[radiant night]

They is their map ss they sent

That’s the only way to realistically proceed from that area unless you get a million spears

[desert relic]

oh okay idk im playing safe here for some reason

[radiant night]

I think it’s cool that they were going the other way since it requires some pounces and good spear placement

[quasi stirrup]

this is a little direct imo

[radiant night]

reason being the “I have been trying it for one hour [sad face]”

the other answer I would give it try a different route
But an hour is quite awhile to be stuck in that one place with the multiple deaths on the map

[quasi stirrup]

to be fair they're definitely going to die a lot in the other route too 🥹

[desert relic]

[quasi stirrup]

it would've been better to spoiler and indicate it's a direct hint

[radiant night]

At least it’s a possible direction to go!

[desert relic]

its alr just dont give much direct hints

[quasi stirrup]

so they have the option if they want to view it or not

[desert relic]

ye

[radiant night]

I don’t normally, I’ve been felping for awhile without the title now

I promise I wouldn’t just directly answer for no reason

[quasi stirrup]

and there's a reason why we're bringing this up 🥹

[radiant night]

I can give options next time but at least in this case they would have checked it either way so I didn’t cause too much trouble

I’m not trying to argue I’m agreeing with you

[gray musk]

Ehh. Fair, but it's better to repost something ok, than to not repost a spoiler...

[desert relic]

i meant that my hands started shaking wildly though

[radiant night]

Reposting isn’t a punishment really, it’s just keeping it clear of spoilers to outsiders
If you want you can just clarify that after you do

[quasi stirrup]

i can relate to this honestly

[desert relic]

[quasi stirrup]

even when just pinning stuff i feel like i'm doing it wrong but hopefully the nerves will calm down for you

[crude oxide]

You'll get used to

[desert relic]

do i pin this? (lemme pin lemme pin)

just wanna confirm things

[quasi stirrup]

PIN

[radiant night]

Yes or I’ll beat you to it

[desert relic]

the pin notification drives me crazy

[quasi stirrup]

i stress over it

like yes i'm lurking

[desert relic]

i just like to delete it

no matter what channel

it looks ugly and flooding to me somehow

[radiant night]

Then delete it if you want to

[quasi stirrup]

then flood it with more pins /silly

i do too though

[desert relic]

no im not going to

law is the law

[radiant night]

[radiant night]

hi felpers
you should all do pilgrimage so we can all be cyan because it’s the best color

• sprinkles

[atomic locust]

.role kalumrw pilgrimage

[tender bloom]

Sprinkles understands you!

It brings kalumrw the Pilgrimage role out of their hoard.
She steals Copycat from kalumrw and retreats to its den.

[quasi stirrup]

flytrap is looking different lately

[gray musk]

Cyan doesn't fit my pfp tho.

[quasi stirrup]

when pink rwsc

like <@&1178070790223167618>

[gray musk]

Ehh. Most likely tasty if I decide to do anything.

[quasi stirrup]

<@&1098342948057399356>

that is a nice pink too

[quasi stirrup]

#1408212973461311581 message @grave token should this be repost blasted since it's outside of the outskirts tutorial? or is outskirts as a whole allowed in first messages

[grave token]

Uhhh I think it should be blasted yea

Wanna do your first repost blast?

[quasi stirrup]

i did my first and then they closed the thread after i suggested they document if they want so sure 🥹

my wifi lagged when i did the command so i thought it didnt work for a second

[narrow finch]

can't you make it back past the point of no return tho?

[late copper]

Well, you have to use maneuvers such as grabbing onto an embedded spear right after throwing it

Drainage is not really designed to make backtracking easy

[narrow finch]

i love leeches charlie! I LOVE LEECHESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

[obsidian halo]

o wait ignore my message

[quasi stirrup]

you can make a thread in #1272670046434492426 (assuming that was spearmaster)

[obsidian halo]

wrong channel

LOL ueah i have one i just didnt know if there was a direct place for help💔💔i got confused sorry,,😭

[quasi stirrup]

don't worry!! this has happened before, we'll be happy to help you there

[obsidian halo]

okayy, thanks!😭sorry for the misunderstanding

[quasi stirrup]

usually people will reply in your threads with answers and you can always ping the First Playthrough Helpers role if you need a quick response

[obsidian halo]

ohhh, thanks!!good to know:D

[placid hedge]

in doubt you can also ping Ruffles

[grave token]

Am I really that active

[modern harness]

Prolly more active than me now cuz I got college to worry about lol

[grave token]

Fair

I didn't think I was that active though

[shrewd timber]

Chimney,,,

[shrewd timber]

You're pretty active

[grave token]

But I don't feel like I'm active to the point where people say "when in doubt, just ping Ruffles"

[quasi stirrup]

vulture food 🥹

[placid hedge]

nah dont worry (yes)

[quasi stirrup]

i must be inactive then

[grave token]

[sacred fox]

[placid hedge]

[shrewd timber]

I should start that then...

[grave token]

I mean, feel free to ping me I suppose

[north mural]

Everyone ping ruffles at the slightest inconvenience

[grave token]

🥹

[radiant night]

@grave token hi

that’s all

[midnight plinth]

Is this DS?

[crude oxide]

Yes

[desert relic]

jsadkjh yes what did ltts said

[desert relic]

where did your pfp go btw

[sour bear]

Sprinkles ate it

[crude oxide]

Removed it

[desert relic]

why tho

[crude oxide]

Dunno what use as a pfp

[atomic locust]

new pfp and username who this

[grave token]

Why do you have the challenge test role that makes your name invisible on dark mode

[quasi stirrup]

i was wondering that too 🥹

[atomic locust]

.role kalumrw foe

[tender bloom]

Sprinkles understands you!

They bring kalumrw the Foe role out of their hoard.
She steals Flytrap from kalumrw and retreats to its den.

[atomic locust]

dw about it 👁️

[crude jetty]

To the Sprinkles horde with that Flytrap.

[radiant night]

o nvm

[quasi stirrup]

[desert relic]

are expeditions counted as spoilers? i was always thinking

[quasi stirrup]

i wouldn't think so

as long as they're in the downpour forum

i kind of count them in the same category as slugcats not being counted as spoilers and it's visible in the remix menu

[desert relic]

yeah it is in downpour fp

[quasi stirrup]

should be fine then as long as it's just mentioning expedition unless the other felpers think otherwise of course

[crude jetty]

Just don't mention anything related to expedition that could be considered as a spoiler for the campaigns, such as creature and location names, slugcat abilities that the player has not played yet...

Or, and the joke rifle unlockable, which is obscured for a reason.

[desert relic]

https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1408482882170912799 bcause this post appeared

thats why i asked

also idk how to explain to them tbh

[quasi stirrup]

i'd get the steam description of it and work from there

[placid hedge]

they would be late i'd say

[quasi stirrup]

"You completed every expedition laid before you"

[tranquil mulch]

i think a blunt answer suffices here, but you can also nudge towards the progression menu

[quasi stirrup]

progression menu is a better idea yeah

[sour bear]

#1403661163975151666 message
Is that a turn storage

[glad void]

yes

[midnight plinth]

Ty for enlightening me on new cas thread

Appreciate it

[crude jetty]

Yeah, probably tapped the back key an instant before climbing onto the pole at some point, at just the right timing to trigger a turn storage on accident. It happens sometimes.

[quasi stirrup]

https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1408843100297887895 do you guys think this title should be edited further? because it's still kind of spoilery to me, i just don't know what to change it to

i closed the post since op made more than one thread, but if anyone wants to change it feel free to

[gray musk]

imo, if they move it, you can delete duplicate posts if there is no information in there.

The post doesn't include any long discussion, so I'd wait till they post the question in their original thread then delete.

[quasi stirrup]

alright

exploded 💥

[gray musk]

#1409281473814597762 oh oh...

[quasi stirrup]

💥

[radiant night]

the pup throwing is like prophecy

its bound to happen now

[crude oxide]

Heritage mist be completed

[radiant night]

if you can think of a way to tell them that at some point
or if they have already been to that room

i was thinking of the guardians

[sour bear]

Guardian skip strategy lets go

[sour bear]

The felpers 100k event is to all look at this guy's thread #1406681612292325538 message

[sacred fox]

This is just remix, not msc? (if it is msc I can delete it lol)

[grizzled prism]

this is msc

Safari unlocks

added by Downpour

delete and redirect yea

[crude jetty]

The diamond layout is Remix.
The safari unlocks are from MSC.

[sacred fox]

(Now that you point out Safari I'm like "duh" 😂)

[desert relic]

real

i keep forgetting that the ywllo diamonds are slugcat unlock in arena i think?

[crude jetty]

Green.

Scugs are green.

Yellow are maps.

[desert relic]

oh

[sacred fox]

Green is slugcat unlock, yellow is levels

[desert relic]

ahh right

[crude jetty]

Blue are enemies and items.

And red is safari.

[desert relic]

that one is obv

.>

[crude jetty]

Heheh.

And of course there's also the Spearmaster collectibles, but at that point they'd be so into MSC that it would not be possible to mistake it.

(Still gotta go on a trip to collect the remaining lore collectibles on my own though. )

[desert relic]

same lol

[quasi stirrup]

me too

[grave token]

Me as well

[sacred fox]

Not me

[sour bear]

have we had any first playthrough threads where the player went to farm arrays first

[late copper]

thought I remembered there being one or two such threads but can't find any

#1341203794012147855 message here they went SU-LF but on a second save

#1070075830274887680 message This one went SU-LF-SI-CC-UW-SS having only partially explored HI and DS previously and backtracked to Outskirts twice. This was one of the more impressive playthroughs I've seen since I started watching at the time of the old forum system, they tended to pick up on things very quickly and got to pebbles from the Wall using a squidcada from SI

[desert relic]

no access

[radiant night]

have to have archives role

[desert relic]

oh i see

[crude jetty]

I am not sure. That looks really unlikely, because at that point the player has never encountered scavengers or a toll.

So odds are they'd get killed trying to cross, and several more times getting killed, to the point where if they did manage to cross, they would not have the necessary 5 karma to cross, and they'd just go elsewhere.

They would need to be extremely lucky (or unlucky) to even make it into Farm Arrays as their second location in the gane.

[sour bear]

I know... Just wanted to see if it's happened

I understand that the chances are absurd

Most people don't even find out that place in outskirts even exists lol

[crude jetty]

To be fair, that gate is quite the detour.

And the wormgrass pit can be a challenging obstacle for someone who is still struggling with basic controls.

[sour bear]

Yeeeaj

But it'll be fun to watch

[late copper]

The chances are made slightly greater with there being only a handful of scavs at the toll, whose numbers are often lowered by the lizards nearby, and the pipe exit being very close to the outpost

Here's one case outside of first playthrough threads where it happened https://youtu.be/zYQOx8sse3s?si=W6HRtavD6hpHCWG3

[placid hedge]

oooh another first playthrough to watch yipeeee

[worldly ether]

I did but i wasn’t In the server at that time

[sour bear]

Damn... Impressive work

How was that experience

[worldly ether]

Not very good

I got pretty far but i didnt know how to ride deer

(Also should move out of this thread to talk about this or is it fine)

[glad void]

it’s fine

[sour bear]

Yeah this is fine

[worldly ether]

I was slightly spoiled by a video about rain world’s creature AI that I had watched years before, so i knew i could tame scavengers

That’s why i was very interested in the toll

Anyways i spent a very long time trying to befriend them and it didn’t work At All but they let me pass one time (i don’t think they saw me?) so i assumed they were my friends

And that’s how i got into farm arrays

[glad void]

me wen i break into someone’s house and they aren’t home (the owner is my friend now)

[worldly ether]

This place was very cool but i was really bad at everything and i didn’t know how to eat vulture grubs or poppycorn so

[glad void]

should’ve grabbed, eaten, thrown, stabbed, and stored everythingyou found 😔

[worldly ether]

I went into the scav treasury and then saw a scavenger. He was running away from me (scared) so i followed him (in a friendly way ) anf i don’t think he liked that

[glad void]

i hope you had a spear also

[worldly ether]

I was aware vulture grubs beeped and probably alerted enemies of my presence but it was underground so no vulter

And idk why I didn’t stab it

[worldly ether]

Probably

I think he somehow got eaten by wormgrass because that was preferable to being near me

So it was time for operation: Get Me Out Of Here

I was in the circled shelter and I had karma 1 and no food pips and no idea how to get food

[sour bear]

Bro starved in a farm

[worldly ether]

I had to starvecycle at the gate shelter

So I had enough karma to get to outskirts

Then the scavengers (who I thought were my friends) would NOT LET ME PASS

[sour bear]

Rip

[worldly ether]

Took me like 25 deaths

To get back to outskirts alive

Actually yes i did know how to eat poppycorn but it was all eaten already so I couldn’t get food from them

[sour bear]

Is telling people about inv a spoiler??
Not like their gonna find it on their own...

Also tbf the category has an inv tag too

[dark tiger]

if they ask it's probably fine

[sour bear]

Yeah fair enough

[silver musk]

Not really. You can even mention inv in genderal

[gray musk]

The fp policy:

[crude jetty]

As long as you don't use the same name for Inv as the one Arti's drone has, it should be fine.

And only because that name is the solution to the riddle.

[midnight plinth]

What region is this

[crude oxide]

Farm Arrays

[midnight plinth]

Oh

[radiant night]

Has cas ever encountered a stowaway

[gray musk]

has anyone ever? /j

[radiant night]

It just feels like something she would have but they are annoyingly hard to trigger

[grizzled prism]

I remember vaguely seeing cas walk past a stowaway but I dont remember if it activated

[modern harness]

Idk lmao
They only spawn in like, 15 rooms I wouldnt be surprised if she hasnt seen an active one yet

[crude oxide]

Once in Void System

[quasi stirrup]

they spawn in PY?

Void System is such a region

[crude oxide]

Yes

[quasi stirrup]

actually incredible

so they've always been sleeping the times i went there

[sacred fox]

Yes but has not triggered it

[sour bear]

I wanna see her reaction to that too lol

I have never encountered one that's not sleeping either

[narrow finch]

stowaway reaction might be easy to find once she gets to her saint playthrough

[sour bear]

In undergrowth?

[narrow finch]

ye

theres a lot of them there

[sour bear]

Even then it's still unlikely lol

[narrow finch]

she's gone to gutter before right?

there's stowaways in gutter for harder cats

[radiant night]

there are stowaways in sub too on gourm iirc

so she has definitely walked under one

When i said encountered i mostly meant activating it

[narrow finch]

hang on

https://rainworld.miraheze.org/wiki/Stowaway

[radiant night]

?

you can see them on the github maps if you turn on "placed objects"

[narrow finch]

oe, sub, pipeyard, gutter, undergrowth

[quasi stirrup]

ive met them in undergrowth and i think once in oe

it killed me in undergrowth because i was making fun of it by zooming under with saint grappling

[worldly ether]

One, in undergrowth. Killed me

Oh wait Cas

I misread it and thought you were asking about anyone

[radiant night]

thats very lucky of you to die to one

sounds ironic but it actually is 😭

[worldly ether]

Made me terrified of undergrowth for a while 😭

[worldly ether]

Where’s that?

[radiant night]

p###yard

[quasi stirrup]

same experience 🥹

[north mural]

TOOOOOOOOOOOOBS

[placid hedge]

1000h of gameplay, encountered just 1 of this mf, and it already was too much

[quasi stirrup]

did you die to it 🥹

[north mural]

I encountered a whopping three of them in my first playthroughs

And died to em

[quasi stirrup]

three times??

[placid hedge]

..... yes 🥹