imo there should be a separate thread because I don’t know if a lot of people here have any experience with modding (ik I don’t and have no intention on applying content mods)
I know I can’t speak for everyone but I see it the same as watcher where you don’t want to have that coordination happen here because not everyone has played it
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/silly
yeah, and i do know a few people who choose not to involve themselves with mods
but they may do so in the future 
i have plans to play more modded content but that's going to take me awhile 
modding just does not interest me at all and i immediately muted the modded first playthrough posts chat 
ngl even watcher kinda lost my interest 😭

Tamed?
Given the reaction, probably not.
Amazing
Not like l haven't had my own fair share of weird lizard encounters too though
I got killed by a BLUE
In DEPTHS.
Big thread
Showed up entirely of his own volition ... made it into filtration, made it into the drill shaft, made it into the first room, snapped me up where l was standing idly while my partner trekked to the void (jolly coop)

@plain plaza If you haven't yet, please read throught the pins here.
huoh
Welcome to FP guide coordination. (We might get a Modded one... maybe)
pebbel felper arc
they just want direct answers at this point so
why did i get pinged here
Oh, were you already in here? I might have missed that, sorry.
You were helping people, so I directed you to the place with all the guidelines (in pinned comments)
tbf pebbel got pinged there
i didnt even want to help in the first place, mike just likes to randomly ping me
Oh, that's annoying... asked him to stop?
nope
Well, if you intend to stay, you should still read through the pinned comments here.
The normal one sounds enough
The felpers will need to beat every mod in record time for helping
nope

theres a different role for that im pretty sure
also @exotic agate were you always a melper
Yes
yes, modded first playthrough guides, to prevent from pinging melpers and felpers who don't want to help in that channel
I love joining threads frame 1 and the OP is just. confused
Indeed.

I think the mfelpers term is better to reduce confusion with felpers and melpers
tho, it's not helper, so it would be mf guide
What's the difference
helpers are more moderate-y
Tho it is a helper exclusive role.
ah shrew
This is still true. Guides generally are people guiding other people.
I think there also is a purple?
And white, and red too
I don't think ik of any that appear in game other than yellow, cyan, red, green
Well, red is just SRS, so...
Cas has seen srs
Yes, but not the super rare spawn in other campaigns
Well, I know all can naturally appear, so I really only care about the ones that don't have a special spawn.
There's six total that can appear ingame
And then other miscellaneous in arena or safari
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Bros....





@muted elbow take a read through the pins in this thread
thx

i can finally say i explored the downpour part of drainage that connects to cc now
pretty desolate
IIRC, that's ||pup unlocks for Survivor (and maybe Monk) if you didn't food quest as Gourmand||, right? (Spoilered even thouhg it's a channel I don't need to spoiler in, because I have no idea how many of you may know that if it's true
)
and uses the wiki 
He really just wants to be handheld thru every microdetail
We should encourage him to decide/find out for himself.

he doesn't care
it's his 3rd dp thread and he just doesn't bother with exploring on his own, especially in his gourmand thread
people will play how they wanna play
you can choose not to hang out in the thread but dont try to push em out of their playstyle if they dont wanna be pushed
just leads to bad outcomes
i cant say im familiar with the thread but if it would benefit the poster you could lead them to #downpour-spoilers , but it is really up to them if thats what they want or not 
@hallow heart take a read through the pins in this thread
aigth
#1388316039342854305 message major endgame spoilers in the first message ✨
next time just ping op while saying that as some people only get ping notifs

anyways time for me to try to sleep
goodnight 
I didn't remember the syntax lol
Remembered existence of the command but not the syntax
Mods can we get this pinned here?
.repost exists
Snaff
It is in the usernames of the given bots @tender bloom and @fervent lintel
display names oops
Which of the 2 does repost
sprinkles
🥹
hop on first playthrough helpers role
I got into guiding by watching silently from the sidelines until I was confident that I knew how to help good
#1270823904247546017 message here's some basic guidelines that outline how we tend to help
First Playthrough is super vibe based?
I wonder why are you suggesting me, hop into first playthrough helpers 
what are you, a WIKI-er?
I'm not a wiki-er 
the ultimate enemy of vibes-based behaviors is the wiki
they will not allow me to express my (correct) opinions about the lore on the lore page 😢

Inject me the helper gen 
Hopefully I don't get corrupted later with the wiki trying to make the stuff of my mods
dot repost
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bro is about to see moon as spearmaster be there or be square!!!!!!!!! idk
i was wondering, is there a way to allow felpers edit intro messages? sometimes there are messages that don't really require the .repost command, but still contain a small spoiler, and when we point it out it depends only on the op how quickly it'll be fixed
given that we can edit titles, but not the intro, I assume there's just no such option, but i still wanted to ask it for a while
The message is still someone's elses message
Being able to edit someone elses message would be. Really Bad™ on discord
it is impossible no matter what perms you have
Otherwise we would all be framing each other 🥹
which is why I'm asking specifically about the intro message. editing the title could potentially be really bad too but we all know and agree that it has to be used only in order to remove spoilers
The forum title doesnt fall under someone else's message as far as discord is concerned
The intro is straight up just someone else's message
There isnt a way to edit Someone Else's message
Its not Yours
I think the reasoning behind the titles being able to be edited is because the poster’s name isn’t directly attached to it or something like that
Kinda like thread titles ig
Has Cas discovered how to make a singularity bomb yet?
Pretty sure she has! Don't know where the message is, though, but I think I remember her surprised reaction.
(Well, the message would be in Gourm of course
)
(I just dunno when)
I remember her reaction to crafting singularity bomb
BUT, l missed her finding out what fire eggs do

The first times she made em she ate em without tossing them
But now she does know they go kaboom 
I missed a page that was prolly very funny
I'll pull them both up for y'all 
Singularity: #1381715173693460520 message
discovering fire egg goes kaboom: #1381715173693460520 message
I meaaannnnn
It's called modded first-playthroughs so I think it belongs as such
(Maybe should ping Felpers about this poll
)
i initially thought it would be in modding, but i like where it is now
mainly because i'm too lazy to scroll down to modding

Maybe even ping Modded Felpers while you're at pinging Felpers
how many melpers even are there rn
this is really a community choice; whoever shows up shows up ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I also put the same poll in a modding channel
That's true, very true
the precedent for the other option is #mod-art-gallery★ being in Modding; the tight-knitness of the modding community means they tend not to leave their category and stuff works out well to all be in their sphere of influence
I'm not sure which option I favor
I think it's not a big deal whichever way it goes
I know this will change in the future, rn in the First Playthroughs category seems fine
it could really work either way
Brings up the question if the first playthroughs category should be dissolved entirely and each forum is moved to its respective category (msc and vanilla)
the modded first playthroughs still hasn’t broken 10 posts
Ik im just saying it’s a similar question being asked for the modded fps
with how enclosed the modding community is to the respective channels I think their opinion matters more on this vote
they are the ones that will be more interested in interacting with those posts
I hope the category does stay up or I'd have to revive my watcher modded thread most likely
Which is an.... Awkward thread to have
i mean i think the channels gonna stay up
even if its lesser than the other 3 first playthrough channels there is a demand for it
itll grow as time goes on its only been here for 3 days
resolve this issue by having a Modded First Playthrough category

Rare white overseer spawn

Now we need purpl
~0.3483% vs ~0.086% who will win
white overseer son vs purple overseer daughter
either cw or potentially just some wild sos
Isn't sos like really far away in another group
i always have a theory that even if an iterator dies, the overseers still survive
eh
sos is important to lore, and technically speaking, oe is very far from the local group
this reminds me
i had a dream about a month ago about eastern expansion, and it basically quaprupled the contents of bas game
you could meet cw, srs, and nsh
and technically speaking, oe is very far from the local group
OE is... basically FP's front yard...?
Thats not very. Far
"Did you find this beyond the retaining wall? I can't imagine another place you might." -Moon regarding the oe pearl
?
slugcats probably don’t travel as far as overseers
the retaining wall means, the end of a local group, no?
W
it’s the end of a facility grounds
No
oooohh
The retaining wall just surrounds the facility grounds
i'm stupid
so the end of a Single iterator’s (or two in this case) grounds
If it was the end of the local group it would jsut be FP and Moon there
As the group
damn i really had that headcanon for my entire time when i first found oe
xd
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I wonder if rare overseer spawns are increased in OE
uhhhh lemme check again
The Green Overseer is the only Overseer that can be found in Subterranean and has a 1% chance to spawn. They may also be found in More Slugcats Expansion Outer Expanse, where any Overseer has a ~0.9913% chance to be green.
No, its worse
By the smallest bit
But its worse
... The heck is nsh doing in subterranean

Let him cook
bro nsh has no business being in oe lmao
the iterators have to figure out their own purposes from what I’ve gathered
so if nsh wants to be in oe nsh wants to be in oe 
im sorry but
...what is oe?
outer expanse
oh
also hi moon real
💯% real
dont overseers kinda do their own thing and just report back to their iterators
that's the premise
listening to instructions but not directly controlled
but they also can do certain things if the iterator wants them to
yeah
but they can also be used as cameras i think
think thats most of what they do
recording an iterators facility and also possibly their local group so they can be aware of whats happening outside the can
i imagine the stray overseers in oe then are just there occasionally to check on it
it's also weird how overseers just weasel their way through any terrain
unless it's teleporting
but they do know their purpose
my first time seeing rain world related content was actually a meme
and i found it rn
Given its a ~0.086% spawn shes incredibly unlikely to see it
i mean
If she does I wanna tell her the spawn chance tho 
she found a white one before she found a red one or a green one
I think she said she found green before
And the pin for the red one is before the white one
i like your emotes, they're cool
:Igna_Silly: is iconic

Given the amount of arguments over it im not sure they are sticking to it
I'd say finding the triple affirmative and providing necessary resources for benefactors living in their cities is their main purpose. ofc when bennies left the latter wasn't important
Yes
What's the spoiler policy for #1387632304461185146 ?
may be best to spoiler blast that thread name about drainage for now
just to be safe
same as the others for now
Ok. I think it should be a bit less strict, but I ain't sure how.
why should it be?
I dont see a reason to make it less strict, people can have big mods on their very first general playthroughs
I think it would just be unnecessary extra rules for a specific channel, it would be simpler to keep them all the same as it doesn’t hurt to just post whatever they need to in a second or third message anyway
when are we gonna combine watcher fp guide and regular fp guide, if ever?
Not until after console release at the very least, I assume
Hopefully not soon
yeah it'd be after console for sure
some time after console release, there will be a Great Spoiler Merger™
a lot of the less integral watcher channels will be archived, and the MSC variants will become "DLC"
stuff like #watcher-spoilers will remain, but #watcher-meme-gallery★ may not
and the merger of this will probably happen with that
console release gonna happen in 2027 bet
Honestly, I don't care about console release as much as I do about them actually finishing the DLC
Once they finish it then I'll get on the console canoe
I'm forced into being in that boat regardless so
Idm when it comes out as long as it is finished and in a complete state
i just realized
with all of the dlc
this game is priced at a AAA game
which it does deserve
that's cool
** **
watcher and msc will be separate, right?
i would assume so for a few months at least
uhh I feel like I explained all of the details as well as I coould
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Saint moment
i dont see ascension as peaceful
nuh uh
peaceful as in difficult
it's way more of a landslide too lol
anyway I think it will garner more interest in people recording their modded playthroughs there rather than people having mods enabled on their first playthrough, and might see more use in the modding category versus the first playthroughs category which is on the opposite end of the server list from the modding category 
counterargument: the modders should leave their category more because they might find out that other channels exist 😌
but uhhh my actual take is that either option ends up sacrificing something
but I think the use-case of proper mod playthroughs is more common and thus should be prioritized probably
I'm well aware other channels exist, but I've learned from personal experience to never touch the general channels of public servers, and I've kinda outgrown the other spoiler channels with their allergies to modded content 
also loreheads and movementers are evil. those are two other things I've learned
and server challenges are a cult /silly
server challenges are also allergic to mods so those conflict too
anyway in a nutshell the rest of the server is allergic to modded content thanks to rules
so the modders tend to stay in their little corner 
Let me play the smallest violin in the world 
@rose star don't tell people how to play the game, let people play the game how they wanna (this goes for campaign order, all we recommend is Saint as the last campaign played)
I think Riv's dot doesn't appear until someone speaks to them... not completely sure on that though
@radiant night
yeah, it doesn't seem like it does
Could also be hunter I'm thinking of
oh well it’s too late now either way
mb
I swear I remember seeing it right away on my playthrough
I know Hunter’s for sure is hidden initially
(Like I said I could be wrong lol, I don't usually notice things like that I just heard it from elsewhere)
opened a new riv save to test, it doesn't show up ingame but it does show up on the campaign select
Maybe that’s what im remembering then
he asked, dummy.
Even then, we dont tell players outright how to play the game or what they should do
Thats for them to figure out, we just nudge them along a little
Ok first of all... rude :d
second of all, please take a read through the pins in this channel
Some people also ask questions rhetorically just to get their thoughts out somewhere
Some people get upset at being told spoilers
Felping is a delicate procedure :3 Please dont be rude when were just doing our job
Unrelated but-
Nice pfp Igna!!
There is this new place "first playthrough" a person aked what campaign they should do next, i told them do the easiest ones, leave the combat focused for last.
This guy gets mad for no reason
Difficulty in Rain World is highly subjective
I find Artificer to be among the easiest of the slugcats, but almost everyone I talk to says it's hell so
🙄 I'm not gomma argue with you.
I'm not arguing????

I'm just pointing out that difficulty for this game is subjective, and it varies from person to person how difficult the game/specific campaign is for them
everyone has a different playstyle with rain world too 
That also plays into difficulty, yes
i know many different players who love the combat and prefer a campaign more focused on that, and then there are players like me who prefer things like befriending everything rather than fighting
Like how some people ( @glad void ) use movement to deal with enemies, and there's other people like me who stab everything they see
Rat plays Undertale Pacifist route in rw confirmed??111!!!11
my movement is rock and spear and overconfidence 
funnily enough that was the route i tried going for when i used to play undertale
Back on topic, everyone finds certain things more difficult than others especially when it comes to campaign difficulty rankings
as the artificer I try to hunt and kill every single scav I see because that's what she would have done. I died a lot, but I can confidently say that I'm good. Last time I was in Metropolis, I managed to kill everyone and made it to a shelter without dying. That was like a huge accomplishment for me. I mean anyone can rush to a shelter, but to fight everyone in your path, that takes skill.
Thanks 
Subjective opinion
We try to avoid that when guiding new players
Anyways I'm getting off for the night, good night slug chat
RW supports a LOT of different playstyles, its best to just let the player figure out what they like rather than try to make them play what you think is easier
goodnight!! 
I did record it, you can see for yourself in the videos and streams channel
only objective FACTS like that you should eat all of moon's neurons and throw rocks at slugpups

good but in reality, there are is an order you should follow. That's why you unlock them in order. They give u two choices, an easy one and a hard one, and saint for last. Instead of saying "do whatever" you should actually give them some guidance
Again, easy vs hard is subjective
Some people might find Gourmand harder than Arti and vice versa
At best, we give a vague description of what the campaigns expect and let them pick
nothing productive comes from that
Gourd: Slow and methodical
Arti: Combat-focused and fast-paced
Let the player decide what they wanna play then
If we just tell new players what to do its not exactly guiding and it more becomes a walkthrough basically xd
oh I see, you don't want them to hear my opinion. just the facts.
I
I am listening, Im just telling you, this is how we were taught to do things
If you dont like it, you can talk to Courier about it
I don't, but it doesn't matter, I only came here to hear news about the watcher. See you in a couple months.

fruit fly over enemies: /j
i dont see why guidance is needed in determining what slugcat to play
and combat focused doesnt automatically mean hard
yeah. join us
i also feel like they locked the scugs in some sort of order because it just makes sense that way. Like if you start with like saint and see ||moon already there with power and all that and pebbles dead||, thats not gonna make sense without having played riv first
fair enough tbh
Does cas know about survivor Outer Expanse ending?
Who knows
If she revisits Survivor she may find out 
it doesnt appear she thought of it while doing heritage
Knowing her, she'll probably try eventually
She knows she can get to OE as Surv and she knows about the OE pearl
Shell def explore it whenever she revisits Surv
don't think that cas knows about oe alt ending for monk and surv but she will find out that eventually
@crude oxide I reposted it because it had smth that was outside out six felper souls
I guess I could've asked em to change it huh...
Oops
scav blasted
I'm sorry what
watcher spoilers remove it
Yeah that's big watcher spoilers


ruffles they said they were watching you silly
Of course I'm the felper that catches it...
you should remove the forwarded message you posted
(Probably want to delete the forward too)
:)
Poofed
Annihilated
Wdym 🐌 I said it first
discord lag on your end

reload it


a msc fp thread
Downpour fp, but still 

what happened here 
Guh
Game ruined for ruffles, will uninstall instantly
Watcher in MSC
not the first time that has happened 
im presuming op just thought that is the overall dlc forum or sum idk
it got removed fairly quick at least
Someone made a watcher question in msc by accident and ruffles was unlucky to be the one to encounter it first 
@glad void is it also your birthday
I can confirm this💔
Bappy Hirthday!!

ty 
Everyone gaslight ruffles into getting convinced it was modded content
i don't even know what it is but it was modded
As someone who's played watcher it's definitely modded

100%ed watcher and l never saw that ever it must be fan stuff from steam workshop 
hey guys did you know that in the watcher ||all you do is watch, look, observe, see, pry, view, eye and peep||
poll_question_text
Should #modded-first-playthroughs be in the MODDING or FIRST PLAYTHROUGHS channel categories?
victor_answer_votes
10
total_votes
15
victor_answer_id
2
victor_answer_text
First Playthroughs
same poll in #modded-gameplay answered modding category with 94%
ah i didnt know there was a poll in modded gameplay lol
the one in this thread got 10 votes total and the one in modded gameplay got 33
i dont really mind really, could go in either category
Add up the votes?
How bad?
Nah it wasn't too terrible 
fraction matters more, but modding wins either way
@calm sparrow perhams move #1387632304461185146 to modding category as per the wish of the modding community 🫳
(polls were done already)
how is that placement
maybe at the very bottom just so gameplay doesnt have to sit beneath a bunch of threads
done
@drifting wyvern take a read through the pins in this channel
ok
Uhhhh fellow Felpers is there normally way bad rot in Survivor GW
Like
Pretty bad am I right
Oh that’s leftover dev tooling from when spearmaster and arti were going to have normal garbage wastes, and is supposed to disappear for other slugcats. So something is definitely awry because they shouldn’t be seeing that.
i was just checking the interactive map because i did not remember that being there in my survivor playthrough 
@crystal token take a read through the pins in this channel
(yes this is late I know, but necessary imo) /nm
Cas boutta get all passages with Gourd 
Gonna pin it since itll be all 14 and Gourd is like. One of 3 you cna get all 14 with
What's she missing? Friend?
yeah it’s friend
She got martyr finally???
Has she gone thru all their arts too
She'd better 
The order onscreen by the button is the order it goes through
Yeah once she's 100% sure she's done with gourm she should just spam all passages in one shelter
It's sad that it doesn't appear she'll ever discover hll ...
Her last hunter run ended ascending 
Shed specifically have to leave her Hunter save in a dead state and she didnt wanna do that 
If anything we'd have to guide her on that but its a weird spot
More weird than the SI 5 pearl dialogues
At the very end of her downpour we can prolly nudge her on all pending easter eggs
I figure it'd be well nigh impossible that she naturally discovers the cloak too
How do you guide someone to
- Leave Hunter save in a permadeath state and move on from that
- Play Gourmand and find the dead room
Mayb ye
would need to maximise the shortest vaguest hint possible
Shes very explorative but exploring SS as anyone but Riv sucks
"If you change something in hunter you can influence gourmand."
That wouldnt be too out of the ordinary
She already knows Gourmand changed some other campaigns from the gate
But figuring out its permadeath specifcally
Maybe "in downpour something happens if you permadie hunter" and leave out mention of gourm (would perhaps connect the dots on her own with the scug timeline order)
I wonder what she thinks the timeline order is rn
I'll have to assume it's accurate, they're easy to click into place when you're as well explored as her
Idk if she might inadvertently swap survi and gourm or something, but besides that, ehh
Tru
It's better this way...
Do we think Cas will be able to solve the Inv riddles?
Maybe, I hope so
Mayb
The riddles are kinda, odd imo
Cas Inv playthrough would be awesome tho
Something I couldn't Watch💔
I need to get inv done before CAS gets there
(This is a joke, I've been spoiled on Inv heavily
)
me too 
the day cas starts playing inv i will too if i havent already 
I gotta fully explore watcher too cuz she's guaranteed to find stuff I don't know about
Why not? Have you played inv?
i doubt cas will play watcher anytime soon*
Not yet because it crashes when I play it (crashes before I can hibernate)
@tired berry take a read through the pins in this thread
If you have questions, do ask
? did i do sum wrong
I also hope so I wanna play Inv on console without it crashing💔
Nope! It's just for future reference for felping
Usually my switch is the thing that crashes 
Just doing standard felping "protocol" (there is no protocol I just made that up)
Standard fhelping fhelpering
perhaps a silly question but how do you know when you’re supposed to provide more explicit directions or if you’re supposed to be Super Vague when you’re asked for directions to a specific place 
i give more direct information if the op is frustrated with the game
it's generally recommended to let the player discover things on their own
Maximize Enjoyment
if you think giving them more direct info will lead to a more enjoyable experience, do so
it's all subjective
really you just wanna find a balance between them going to a wiki and quitting the game entirely
every player has their own spot on that spectrum
oh that is very weird dialogue
sait dialogue but in gourmand? ::D
I would bet that there is no dialogue for popcornplant ball in any other timeline than in sait so that explains the weird dialogue
gourmand put the ice crystals there

Odd plothole
Esp considering that gourm does get a unique dialogue for fire eggs
(Paradoxically though gourm is the only scug that can naturally bring moon a fire egg)
Meaning that the default dialogue for other scugs is the real easteregg
@spiral coral take a read through the pins in this channel
If you have any questions about anything here, ask away
saint can bring a fire egg to her
Via how
Oh, answered my own question
Swallowing, right...
Swallowing and restart save
@spiral coral I believe op is taking about blls #1391180806923489372 message
is #1391180806923489372 message 's title going to be changed 
smelly spoiler 
🥹

Oh. Sorry. I didn't see it, sorry. I was just curious on what they meant. I meant nothing bad when I asked. Sorry if I worded something wrong, I'm not good at talking
No, you're all good. Just thought I'd say what it probably was to avoid spoiling the op 
(If you'd like to see the guidelines feel free to check out the pins in this thread)(if you haven't played all downpour campaigns however this thread is spoilery so be warned
)
probably a bubble fruit
def don't read this as "five pebbles guide coordination" every time
Same
worthy sacrifice to stop people from clicking in here for their first playthroughs
lmao
there have been multiple names that slowly got more and more obscured in meaning
first one was "First Playthrough Guiding & Coordination"
which was obviously problematic because people thought it was the place you go for help
#1391180806923489372 message @silver musk well, depths is kinda a softlock below k10
you gotta die to leave 😔
This is not a softlock by definition 
there are no softlocks by definition in rain world, so we look for the next best thing
I'm just giving hope to people 🥹
there are with wrongdens
for example, it's simple to get a wrongden in https://henpemaz.github.io/Rain-World-Interactive-Map/map.html?region=UW&room=UW_D07 and you will just instantly die on the cycle start after doing so, with no way to prevent death
only proper softlock I can think of that a new player could get is being stuck in a shelter with a psuedo-tamed redliz and without fast shelter opening enabled
yeah that one is true
a softlock I've seen people get on accident is the <@&1249103251920392254> one
running out of passages in submerged?
yeah
and the obligatory lack of fruit and batflies issue in 1.0
but I assume there are plenty of bugs in 1.0 that would cause issues like that 😌
did not see this
fmelper
You try explaining mark of communication in a non super spoilery way 
Also you're still playing through downpour from what l can see, do be careful coming in this thread
do overseers guide you to pebs after you've left moon?
yes
#1391876150296313907 message does this count as a spoiler
I dunno
I would say not... it's a pretty well-known room that can be encountered very early on
However, rules I'm pretty sure state anything outside of the tutorial (unless specified to be allowed) isn't allowed, so final answer, probably?

just ask them to remove the image
i would do that but i already asked them to check if they had the dlcs enabled 
it's definitely not a major spoiler so i don't think it needs to be repost blasted
I am giving it till I wake up, then I blast it.
just quick question, does this thread include watcher spoilers? or just vanilla and downpour?
is the drowning mechanic a spoiler
okay, guess not. thanks!
@deep delta take a read through the pins in this thread
@fallow junco Take a look through the pins in this thread for tips on how to help players 
Ah, okay 👌
@burnt portal take a read through the pins in this thread
Alright so I can't even list the benefits? Even under the ||black anti spoiler thingy|| ?
Nope
If they player didn't directly ask for the information, we don't give it out
And some people like to ask rhetorical questions (or questions to themself)
Oh, I'm bad at those, gonna keep this in mind
It's fine!
Alright, im going to delete the rgb fly comment then?
The way I (and MANY other people) learnt how to felp is just by watching other people felp
I mean, the OP already saw it so that's too late
You can leave that one, the other one I 💥ed
Affirmative, thanks for the explanation
and feel free to leave or mute this thread now by the way, it has downpour spoils 
Alright
@grave token bruh but they went through that gate already
it's why the tank on top is empty

Ummm
Doesn't look empty to me
Oh wait yea it does
Screw my screen brightness man
Ativar o Windows
this isn't a mobile port, is it?
Yuh
@hollow ocean take a read through the pins in this thread
You aren't in trouble or anything 
This is just where we bring people who come into the threads so they know the guidelines
As for the specific gif, generally I'd say gifs containing a character not played by op would be considered a soiler, and the retextured grapple worm has the implication of saint's tongue ability
i mean it has like a small frame where saint glides in and out
so yeah mv
my bad
i didnt know it was a spoiler at all 😭
All good

Meanwhile, watcher
no.
the scary non canon one:
alright im at 1% bye 
my phone likes to disable itself after 30 seconds on 1% 😭
pretty much saying hurry up
alright bye
meanwhile lizards
The lizards have more
not each lizor type
True
also i love how we have a singular yeek emoji, a singular lantern mouse emoji, and a singular jetfish emoji
And a singular centi
It's for spoiler reasons we don't have those (usually)
And batfly
eggbug also i think
jetfish and lampter are understandable
but Yeeks????? are only accessible in gourm ending area and saint
Ikr
I thought you could also get Yeeks in Surv/Monk OE as well
We also can't forget about vulture warps
My head cannon is that SM does an OE vulture warp to get back to SRS
might as well just be canon
I copy Cases idea of riding a vulture back.
probably not 
i think you did good don't worry 
especially since it's what they were asking for
though who knows if they'll end up at moon or pebbles
good discoveries either way

I found them in the far leftmost subterranean room in several campaigns
Actually what is the yeek emoji

This?
yes 
international
@gray musk how does DP use it?
Last time I checked, you can bomb jump with it.
Ohh ok that’s cool
And I am pretty sure it also affects other scugs, I just don't remember how.
Oki! Thanks for the help
i recommended my friend rainworld and he might play it!!!
cause he said "it looks silly"
nice!!!!!!!
That's actually pretty accurate.
we should probably put a spoiler tagging guide in the pinned guide threads 
i've noticed a lot of people don't spoiler tag because they don't know how to
🙏
there is this one
or do you mean in the forums
tbh I think the pins could be organised a bit here
yeah in the forums 
blame shadow 
let's spam ping her @calm sparrow@calm sparrow@calm sparrow@calm sparrow@calm sparrow@calm sparrow@calm sparrow@calm sparrow@calm sparrow@calm sparrow@calm sparrow@calm sparrow
yeah 
amazing
It'll probably help but most people don't read
you can copy and paste that part and send it in a thread rather than typing it every time
was wondering why it wasn't reposted 
also title of this
i think
i actually don’t know whether it’s a soiler or not
and maybe the word “met” also if we’re being REALLY strict
felpers slacking 
i have no idea if they are making a sea joke or referencing shoreline
i think it should be fine (?)

both probably 
yeah i’ve got no idea
grey areas are just awesome
i don’t think anyone is going to see the title and conclude that shoreline exists based on that fact alone so maybe it’s fine
yeah, it's not a direct region spoiler
still think met should be spoiler tagged but maybe i’m just weird 
to anyone who hasn't found shoreline it probably just seems like a reference to the ocean
ture
doesn't hurt to suggest it 
i met giant green lizard in outskirts
suspiciously short spoiler tag immediately after the word met

Do you want me to repost blast both of them or smth?
Mmmm fair point
I was just a lil lazy and thought another felper would catch it which it hasn't so now I'm exposing myself by saying this
i'll save you and say that sometimes instead of telling someone to spoiler tag i just join the thread and wait for someone else to do it too 
blast
apply today
😌
i should be able to soon! only a few things are left on my bucket list, [watcher soilers] and [hunter] ||giving green neuron to pebbles||
You're active enough to be a good felper Foj
If it's watcher I'm exploding you
i will not soil watche rhere
still
when i was new here i actively avoided this thread because it has soiler warnings
people can still be soiled by the coordination thread
Tbh... more people are probably spoiled by Cas's threads more than anything here

but cas wouildnt want ||rubicon|| soilers so
true
get to work, felpers
you ||can** **||
this thread probably isn’t the right place to be due to the spoilers here
*if you don’t know the answer to that 
Very pretty strawberry
Pretty sure they encountered the same one a few times tbh
Definitely with the amount of arti precycles she had 
not for the first time
do they appear in floodcycles somewhere as arti?
Not specifically arti, but in floodcycles yeah
She just had a lot of arti shelter failures for some reason 
(I could be remembering wrong lemme fact check myself)
I remember seeing one during a precycle as spearmaster (it scared the living daylights out of me when it zooped), it was probably lineage in that case
Yeah no, it was likely a coincidence lineage in that case
My point is, she's definitely encountered them as spearmaster and I think arti too
Wait so she knows about zoops before saint
Interesting
Can someone link the first time she saw a zoop?

@north mural you should so become a felper you're great at it

Apply for felper

no more gaes
BRING THE GAE BACK
you really clipped all of it 
(not a gif but that's a good idea)
🥹
The cycle repeats itself...
oh no
i'm forced to love people again rip me
wait this isn't general why am i here
Yup
or grab the grapple worm at the bottom of the wall if this is downpour
It's not
I'd personally just hint at it as I'm sure they know that spears can be embedded into walls
I would argue that backflipping isn’t a mechanic people discover on their own always
But if they know how to then yes 
i feel like we should be less strict on movement stuff
if someone is spoiled on how to slide for example and wants to know how to do it
they either have to brute force how to do it or look up a movement guide and probably get spoiled if we don't tell them
this exact situation isn't going to appear very often i'm sure but it could also apply to other stuff
a lot of people take the examples on this message as the ONLY unintuitive information you're allowed to give i think so just a little reminder 
or maybe i'm just making it up
i hope my little rant was helpful in some way
No, that's a valid point.
I think that stumbling upon the guide during individual research and getting more spoiled than the player would if they received a safer answer is a likely outcome
Maybe we could say that there is an optional spoilery thing but they don't particularly have to know it to progress throughout the game. And ask them if they still want to know it
in this particular situation they already had their hands on the map so they may think that there's only a way down from the echo but not up (since they likely seen the FP gate) 
"do you want to learn a neat spoilery thingy or walk a huge detour to end up exactly here
" /j
That actually might be somewhat frustrating: walking that big of a circle
they knew abt backflipping
im just going off of my own experience and what ive heard from other people with downspear where they knew it existed but thought it was timing based instead of holding down
I've been there 
and in that case a hint wouldnt give too much help if they dont have enough information to figure out how to do it anyways
@iron quartz take a read through the pins in this thread
/nm
alr, thanks
If you have questions, feel free to ask
#1381715173693460520 message
The green pearls in question: ||garbage wastes, exterior, drainage, metropolis, sky islands and if anyone can think of more lmk||
is the word "scavenger" supposed to be spoil-tagged?
I'm not sure what creatures qualify as spoilers
iirc scavengers are allowed in the no rw discussion channels
So id say its not a spoiler
Oh wait nevermind
Just checked the pins
well I think in no rw discussion it's only green/pink lizards, and maybe swuidcsdas
outskirts stuff
is it the same for the first playthroughs?
ok cool then
I'll go 💥 it
this image is in the pins for future referencd
@torpid lark please read pinned messages here, this one in particular #1270823904247546017 message
@crude jetty in that case please check the pins in here.
Ah, gotcha. I'll try not to say much else then.
You good so far, just for future reference.
Oki.
who is cas?
specific first-playthrougher, why do you ask?
just I saw this name often
is it castrix?
ahh yeah she just has by FAR the most indepth documentation and lengthy runs of anyone in the history of the threads
yes
yeaah that's why then hehe
good to know
the legend of first playthrough threads

I wish I documented my other campaigns too, not just Saint
well I also started Inv but kinda didn't record anything
maybe I'll do that for the watcher!
I haven't considered documenting a playthrough before.
The only playthrough I haven't attempted yet is Inv.
you should 
(even though Inv is the least lore relevant ((cuz it's not canon)) and it's not as emotional)
Oh, I believe Inv's campaign is one of the most emotional of the bunch. You'll feel oh so many emotions playing through it. Very intensely.
You may even wanna cry a few times and everything.
ok if that's what you consider emotional, YEAH IT VERY MUCH IS
(I'm stuck in chimney canopy)
I don't know if i can send this to all channels yet, so I'll try sending it here first
Firstplaythrough
If it's your first playthrough and you want to avoid spoilers, you can make a thread in #1269808032276152451 or #1272670046434492426 (if the More Slugcats Expansion is enabled), where you can get help on your playthrough. #1342915289595248701 is for playthroughs of The Watcher.
it works 
what's that for 
evil helper deeds such as redirecting people to proper channels
a quick and easy way to give some useful information
for example
Msc
MSC (More Slugcats Expansion) is part of the Downpour DLC enabled in the Remix menu. MSC changes all campaigns and if you have it enabled you MUST move to the Downpour equivalent of the channel, even with base game slugcats.
#1269808032276152451 -> #1272670046434492426
#vanilla-spoilers -> #downpour-spoilers
#vanilla-lore -> #downpour-lore
#vanilla-server-challenges -> #downpour-server-challenges etc.
if you have something that could be added to this, do tell me, these things can be easily edited
"MSC changes significant parts of the base game, so even if you're playing a vanilla character, you must move to the downpour equivalent"
"You can document in #1269808032276152451 if you have it disabled, or if you have MSC enabled you must turn it off to continue using a vanilla thread"
Ok maybe this would be better as it's own
If it's your first playthrough and you want to avoid spoilers, you should make a thread in #1269808032276152451 or #1272670046434492426 (if the More Slugcats Expansion is enabled in the Remix menu), where you can get help on your playthrough.
The More Slugcats Expansion changes significant parts of the base game, so even if you're playing a base game character, you must make a thread in #1272670046434492426 or disable the expansion if you want to document in #1269808032276152451. This applies to The Watcher DLC too as it adds some content from the More Slugcats Expansion. #1342915289595248701 is for playthroughs of The Watcher.
watcher adds msc content to base game campaigns, right? I'd like to add something on it too, but honestly don't know too much about it
I don't know much about Watcher so
That works
not as much as msc, but yes
creature spawns is one of the major ones

i think that's enough
I've updated it
Firstplaythrough
If it's your first playthrough and you want to avoid spoilers, you should make a thread in #1269808032276152451 or #1272670046434492426 (if the More Slugcats Expansion is enabled in the Remix menu), where you can get help on your playthrough.
The More Slugcats Expansion changes significant parts of the base game, so even if you're playing a base game character, you must make a thread in #1272670046434492426 or disable the expansion if you want to document in #1269808032276152451. This applies to The Watcher DLC too as it adds some content from the More Slugcats Expansion. #1342915289595248701 is for playthroughs of The Watcher.
I've asked in the helpers chat and apparently everyone can use the /autoresponse command, which shows this message. all you need is the name of the certain autoresponse you want to use, which is Firstplaythrough in this case
if it's possible maybe one could be made relating to spoiler tagging?
like how to spoiler tag text/images (and the tags not working in titles) and them not being necessary past the first thread message
uuuh, sure
I'll just copy the part from the #1269808032276152451 description about spoiler tags
If it's your first playthrough and you want to avoid spoilers, you should make a thread in #1269808032276152451 (the base game with disabled DLC's), #1272670046434492426 (if the More Slugcats Expansion is enabled in the Remix menu) or #1342915289595248701 (if The Watcher DLC is enabled in the Remix menu), where you can get help on your playthrough.
- The More Slugcats Expansion changes significant parts of the base game, so even if you're playing a base game character, you must make a thread in #1272670046434492426 or disable the expansion if you want to document in #1269808032276152451. This applies to The Watcher DLC too as it adds some content from the More Slugcats Expansion.
- Remember that other people are on their first playthroughs there too, and may not be as far ahead in the game. For your initial forum post, avoid putting spoiler content in your description and image. Use spoiler tags
||like this||to make ||this||. After the thread has been created, you don't have to worry about using spoiler tags.
I'll update the autoresponse
Firstplaythrough
If it's your first playthrough and you want to avoid spoilers, you should make a thread in #1269808032276152451 (the base game with disabled DLC's), #1272670046434492426 (if the More Slugcats Expansion is enabled in the Remix menu) or #1342915289595248701 (if The Watcher DLC is enabled in the Remix menu), where you can get help on your playthrough.
- The More Slugcats Expansion changes significant parts of the base game, so even if you're playing a base game character, you must make a thread in #1272670046434492426 or disable the expansion if you want to document in #1269808032276152451. This applies to The Watcher DLC too as it adds some content from the More Slugcats Expansion.
- Remember that other people are on their first playthroughs there too, and may not be as far ahead in the game. For your initial forum post, avoid putting spoiler content in your description and image. Use spoiler tags
||like this||to make ||this||. After the thread has been created, you don't have to worry about using spoiler tags.
that definitely should be enough, everything else could be explained in threads
sick
one more little update: the name's changed to First-playthrough
First-playthrough
If it's your first playthrough and you want to avoid spoilers, you should make a thread in #1269808032276152451 (the base game with disabled DLC's), #1272670046434492426 (if the More Slugcats Expansion is enabled in the Remix menu) or #1342915289595248701 (if The Watcher DLC is enabled in the Remix menu), where you can get help on your playthrough.
- The More Slugcats Expansion changes significant parts of the base game, so even if you're playing a base game character, you must make a thread in #1272670046434492426 or disable the expansion if you want to document in #1269808032276152451. This applies to The Watcher DLC too as it adds some content from the More Slugcats Expansion.
- Remember that other people are on their first playthroughs there too, and may not be as far ahead in the game. For your initial forum post, avoid putting spoiler content in your description and image. Use spoiler tags
||like this||to make ||this||. After the thread has been created, you don't have to worry about using spoiler tags.
If you see a new player, you can use the /autorespond command and then type First-playthrough to show this message. The message will be updating so it may look differently than the one above, but it will still have the same name
this should probably be pinned
Snaff can we get this pinned
watcher dlc does not add anything to vanilla campaigns that downpour does not
afaik
so it should still go in #1272670046434492426
so maybe something like "if the More Slugcats Expansion and/or Watcher DLC is enabled in the Remix menu" for downpour first playthroughs, and "watcher-first-playthroughs (If playing The Watcher)"?
oh level 34 
I think a gameplay helper should be able to do it as well
that message right?
yeah
also no joke I was just about to do a bit where I pinged a random gameplay helper to do it and it was gonna be you
but instead I couri'd a suggestion to give fpelpers perms in the relevant spoiler channels that contain these threads
oh wahoo!! felper win









