Old FP Guide Coordination [Archived]

[grave token]

Idk

I'd feel bad telling her to use dev tools again, but that's literally the only option unless she wants to either play Expedition or reset the save so

[narrow finch]

so, dev tools?

[grave token]

I'm for it, but I'll let other Felpers give input

[narrow finch]

<@&1137895527271379055> this is gonna be the last ping sorry

[modern harness]

Im not aware of dev tools being able to spawn anything besides the story-related key items

[verbal wind]

It seems like you can?

(have never used devtools before)

[grave token]

Requires advanced modding setup to spawn lore pearls

As a console player I can NOT help with this

[narrow finch]

Requires advanced modding setup to add lore pearls.

cas is playing on pc right?

[verbal wind]

https://yanwittmann.github.io/rw-collection-index/

So, it appears this a thing

Which pearl is it exactly?

[narrow finch]

the pink pearl

specifically SL_chimney

pebbles' text is as follows:

This is a genome for a purposed organism. Just a menial cleaning slug.
While I do not have this exact sequence on record, the simple structures present, and lack of mechanical interchange glands, mean this blueprint is quite old.
This creature would be much closer to a domesticated animal, compared to the newer and specialized organisms produced with more modern techniques. A being made to live its life inside a metal pipe deep underground has no need for eyes after all.
In the same way, my own body is all around you. Composed of specialized organisms, and machinery. What you see in front of you is only the tiny extremity of a colossal presence. One that your simple mind could not hope to comprehend.

[verbal wind]

Ok, i think i have the index

let me try to spawn it

brb

The index is SL_chimney

I'm personally in the camp that, we offer expedition first as an option, and if they feel too opposed to it then we tell them about the use of devtools

It's mostly about which method would make them happier

[narrow finch]

well shucks

how should we go about this

[tiny glacier]

Can I add a vote?

If so then I think we should tell CAs about expedition

[narrow finch]

what is op talking about

[spare flax]

closest to mind is cyan

[narrow finch]

ohh that's prob it

[sacred fox]

I'm too nervous to say it without confirmation first, so if someone else wants to say this or let me know that this works... can I say something like "You can't get the pearl back without dev tools, however, there's another way of unlocking the dialogue that is more vanilla."

(This is regarding the whole pink pearl situation with Cas sorry I forgot to clarify)

[obsidian halo]

sorry to ping and sort of unrelated but cann you get a lost pearl back like u said?? i lost the one u find in moon playing monk like two campaigns ago bc it somehow? disappeared from my stomach and i wanted that pearl😭

and i got it b4 u could talk to her so it never saved

[sacred fox]

Did you have key item tracking on? (You're fine to ping me)

[obsidian halo]

okk thanks! and not sure, it was back in march loll. i had kept it in my stomach then went to FP then back to moon

when i tried taking it out to give it to her it was gone

[sacred fox]

If not, there's not much to be done besides retrieving it in expedition or spawning it back in with dev tools.(this is probably a downpour-spoilers convo tho)

[obsidian halo]

ohh alrr, and thats fine im on spearm/riv now

im on switch so i dont thinkk i can use devtools? and IDK how to play expedition so i might just have to get it again on survivorrr lol😭

[sacred fox]

Let's move to dp-spoilers rlq

[obsidian halo]

KK

didnt know there was a seperate channel sorry abt that

[sacred fox]

No you're good

This is a thread within that channel lol

[obsidian halo]

ohh thanks!

[gray musk]

If she confirmes she want's a answer, I am telling her about Expedition.

[silver musk]

You can probably safely tell there's a possibility to unlock it by other means

[atomic locust]

wouldnt expedition be potentially spoilery

Id wait until post-saint for that

and leave it as "there's a way to do it but it has spoilers so I'd wait until after you finish the rest of the campaigns"

[modern harness]

she already looked online about dev tools

So what do we do then

[silver musk]

Suggest dev console as superiour option to spawn a pearl /silly

[modern harness]

[silver musk]

Omg! This devious looks straight up evil

[modern harness]

[crude oxide]

Are there different collections for each campaign?

[modern harness]

No, just a overall collection

Dunno how shed feel about not getting that pearl read for Arti and the collection being empty but also... looks at Surv/Monk Metro readings

[crude oxide]

Can't she just get the pearl in a different campaign then?
But ig she wants it in her hoard

[modern harness]

Its Arti campaign

She physically cant get that reading in another campaign unless she does expedition, which she hasnt yet

And collection isnt shared across saves

[north mural]

What on earth's spoilery about expedition

[dark tiger]

expedition mechanics themselves can spoil stuff

[north mural]

Don't you need to complete campaigns to unlock slugcats (maybe not, l barely touch it)

Yeah l guess the Perks can spoil stuff from unplayed slugcats ..

Though l doubt she'd even get to that point

The scenario involved is her playing a single arti expedition to read one pearl and then leaving

[grave stag]

knowing cas she will play all of expedition

[north mural]

She totally will, but she'd obey being told to wait till finishing downpour

[lyric moss]

I do believe her... but also, it might be time to reassure her with expedition. Besides, it can't bee spoilery to say Expedition (or even to vaguely state that a side-thingy) can help as long as we tell her to stay away until later.
But also, this really depends on if she would want to know! The player's experience comes first, after all.

Idk, I'm not an expert here. But it should be considered, even if briefly!

(...But then, I guess it could be alright with that mod, if anything, too. Again, her experience comes first.)

[crude oxide]

@midnight plinth @primal patrol Please read guidelines that are pinned here if you want to help new players

[midnight plinth]

Will do!

[crude oxide]

He figured it out on his own I'm so glad 🥹

This is awesome 🥹

[radiant night]

through errors there will be triumph eventually

[narrow finch]

in industrial

where'mst again?

oh this is pipeyard

ooh this is op's first time going to pipeyard

[sacred fox]

Lol

[radiant night]

going where?

[narrow finch]

spear so

first impressions for her is moon

[radiant night]

your message is tagged...

[narrow finch]

not pebbs

[radiant night]

########

[narrow finch]

oh weird

she's going to pipeyard from industrial

[glad void]

tags

going to where

[radiant night]

yeah idk what u sayin

[narrow finch]

why am i tagged

[sacred fox]

Don't you react with hunter knowing lol

[narrow finch]

does this still react as tagged?

am i just like

soft banned for some readon

[sacred fox]

||you're being gaslit||

[narrow finch]

i've been getting some accidental timeouts from accidentally breaking rules

is mono srsly fucking with me

[radiant night]

absolutely

[narrow finch]

bro...

/silly

[sacred fox]

Ok now you can react with hunter knowing

But seriously where did the pipeyard hatred come from

[narrow finch]

pipeyard as a concept is cool

[glad void]

the what hatred

[narrow finch]

but i get that it is kinda terrible to navigate through as most scug

s

[sacred fox]

People think it's not original enough or smth

It doesn't have to be

[narrow finch]

i personally think that it is p cool in saint

[sacred fox]

Never been there as Saint

[narrow finch]

i've been there only 3 times, and my first time was saint so i could get the zoop arena unlock

[sacred fox]

I should probably do that (arena unlocks can't be found in expedition right)

[narrow finch]

no

saint py also has the eel unlock

and the pearl unlock and lilypuck unlock

[sacred fox]

Why get the arena unlocks when I can cry over Watcher instead

[narrow finch]

wait i lied

saint does not have a lilypuck unlock

all other scugs do tho

[sacred fox]

[narrow finch]

me when i spread lies and misinformation

[grave token]

The what region?

I prefer, Downpour, one of the main regions in the game

[glad void]

check mono’s thread

[grave token]

Which one is that again I'm following too many

[glad void]

attempting rwsc

(pilgrimage) :)

[radiant night]

[gray musk]

Ehh. Are Backflips and Walljumps spoilers?

[silver musk]

I'd say so? The second one for sure

[gray musk]

Whoa? I'd have guessed the other way around but sure. The OP changed it in the meantime tho.

[narrow finch]

@silver musk @north mural please do not spoil inv for cas please!

[north mural]

She knows its existence

[narrow finch]

How do you know that

[silver musk]

mentioning inv is not a spoiler

[narrow finch]

She knows about the emojis, but she doesn't know about the arg or how to unlock them

[north mural]

I was there when it entered a conversation

[opal ibex]

umm so like please help idk what's causing their rw to do that

[silver musk]

also

it's literally here

[narrow finch]

Well she still doesn't know how to unlock

[silver musk]

saying that would be a spoiler

[north mural]

Well we didn't tell her how to unlock it did we

[north mural]

So they had the echo encounter but it crashed and didn't register the upgraded karma?

[silver musk]

they probably don't have enough karma to meet the echo again

[opal ibex]

yes

[north mural]

Or did they not witness the encounter at all

[opal ibex]

no they specifically made sure to be at max karma

[opal ibex]

fromw hat i can tell they went up and met the echo and the game crashed

[north mural]

Hmm

[opal ibex]

and then didnt get increased karma

[silver musk]

I don't see anything about max karma when revisiting

oh wait

I'm stupid

[opal ibex]

lol

[silver musk]

disregard

[quasi stirrup]

may just have to restore a backup

[opal ibex]

they got a save file editor to undo that echo interaction and it crashed again

[silver musk]

ye. Probably the game didn't save properly hence the scam

[opal ibex]

😭

[north mural]

Dang

[silver musk]

which mods are enabled?

[opal ibex]

None

[lyric moss]

At this point... verify file integrity? (If on Steam)

[silver musk]

also consider verifying the files

[lyric moss]

Or reinstall first

[opal ibex]

yea thats the only thing i can think of

[silver musk]

if it doesn't help then reinstall

[lyric moss]

Whoops, yeah, that afterward

[opal ibex]

cool

[lyric moss]

I also consistently get the 1 file failed to validate thing, seems to be just some random error

[opal ibex]

i did tell them that if they just cant get it to work no matter what just skip it for now and go explore other regions

and hopefully pebble giving karma works and doesnt break the game

and it does mean they cant finish hunter

but hopefully by then they'll get a new laptop and it'll work fine then

[tranquil mulch]

steam just checks what files are changed from the expected default state

and launching the game changes that one file

[lyric moss]

...Wait, that was it the whole time????

wow

[tranquil mulch]

it would be simpler to just use dev tools to force the echo to appear tbh

[opal ibex]

lol

[tranquil mulch]

with the setup value that removes all conditions for an Echo appearing, e.g. 'must have not been met before'

[opal ibex]

oh ok

[crude oxide]

I wanted to ask something, is this really ok to send this? It has quite a lot of information a player is unlikely to know after their first playthrough and something that they should really discover on their own

[radiant night]

it has been sent in nearly every saint thread upon completion (including my own) as far as im aware

only spoiler is iterator ascension if they didn’t try it I suppose..

[tranquil mulch]

so the three parts:

• iterator dialogue on ascension: ehh,, I'm not sure, since it's post-Saint completion I'm not sure it's a big deal? if not said, that'll probably be just not discovered, yeah?
• challenge 70 isn't canon: very vague but just gives off importance of it, but idk??
• rubicon isn't real: i honestly would say that's the main part that seems unfitting for me

[radiant night]

the context of “rubicon isn’t real” being said makes it feel less serious to me personally

but yeaa

like the 3 facts thing they are all things that the player could theoretically discover on their own too
it just feels more like a joke to post the image

[crude oxide]

We could guide a player in a better way so they discover that they could ascend iterators without telling that outright

[radiant night]

how would you go about it?

[modern harness]

Some people try to go ascend immediately without giving it too much thought, some people dont see the 2nd tutorial at all to begin with

And then get stuck at the guardians

[radiant night]

I can’t really think of a sneaky way to tell the player they can ascend the iterators but I haven’t thought much about it till now

That tiny tutorial that can be skipped by opening the map 💔💔

[modern harness]

And doesnt ever appear again 💔

This is why I always ask if players saw both tutorials cuz its so easy to skip them

[crude oxide]

I just thought it was a thing worth bringing up as I've seen felpers send it a lot

[modern harness]

And skipping the 2nd tutorial means you just get completely stuck until someone else tells you what it was supposed to be

[radiant night]

it fr should popup like the remix tutorials work between deaths/cycles

Or if you open the pause menu it should be there too with the other controls

[modern harness]

Theres no way to progress in Rubi without knowing what the 2nd tutorial is

[radiant night]

locked in a room for all eternity

[late copper]

We could encourage them to start another run (like we already do with the image) while hinting that there is more to the ascension ability

If they don't ascend the iterators their first run then that's no problem

[crude oxide]

We could even hint that there's more to the ascension ability in the first run

[radiant night]

the empty iterator room is a good indicator that they can be there too

[radiant night]

People just don’t always ask or know about it because of the tutorial disappearing

so unless they share the changed menu art or that they got all echos there is no way to know

[modern harness]

Iirc I once saw someone think that room was SOS' can cause they didnt ascend the iterators and there was noone there plus the pearl regarding SOS

[radiant night]

an interesting theory actually

That would have been neat to see

[tulip summit]

Just by this notification you can tell that someone had finished saint

[radiant night]

you have notifications for fp threads

[modern harness]

[tulip summit]

Only ones I've ever participated in. They turn on automatically

[opal ibex]

nvm they got it working

[sacred fox]

[grave token]

[narrow finch]

[dark tiger]

[quasi stirrup]

[lone turret]

[crude oxide]

[atomic locust]

must... break...chain...

[tiny glacier]

[grave token]

How could you /silly

[gray musk]

Hunter knows why it's going down.

[opal ibex]

lmao

i've never actually seen someone use the rain to deal with that room in FA

funnily enough they're finding both farm arrays and subterranean chill

[radiant night]

Subterranean and beyond isn’t really difficult because usually the player knows how to deal with the threats by then

Now if you get there before going through most other regions in the game you might wanna cry

[late copper]

It's fairly chill when you're taking the most direct path from LF to Depths

The only major threats are centipedes in a few rooms, and you only need to deal with a half of a single room in Filtration

[north mural]

I saw this performed successfully in a video

As a way to get the red pearl

It's so cursed

[north mural]

Both are super chill regions

I'm especially biased because of being the solitary rainworld player to have never had a bad raindeer experience

[opal ibex]

lmao

[opal ibex]

luck

[opal ibex]

fair enough

[opal ibex]

they kinda did that

literally went from shoreline to subterranean to drainage to outskirt to farm array

[radiant night]

How did they get to sl?

[grave token]

SL-SB gate

Wait

[north mural]

The most cursed play order that too many people have done by accident is outskirts > drainage > filtration

Mfs who have seen 3 regions making Felp posts of "how do l get past the tv head creatures"

[radiant night]

Yaa it wouldn’t make sense for them to go backwards there but maybe,,,,,,,

outskirts drainage connection brutal as always

[shrewd timber]

I haven't gotten a Felper Ping in a while

the flaythroughs must be bountiful

yooo

[grave token]

All level up messages are few and far between, but grant a little dopamine

[north mural]

Gotta spam messages so it goes up faster

There should be a monksilly channel to spam monksilly and farm levels

[radiant night]

I bet it doesn’t give exp from spam

[opal ibex]

garbage

[radiant night]

[opal ibex]

it's Outskirt -> industrial -> garbage -> shoreline -> subterranean -> drainage -> farm -> sky island

[radiant night]

should still have some experience from that journey but still difficult

[opal ibex]

yea

they kinda spent an hour getting miroed and left through filtration

funnily enough they found it chill

[radiant night]

chill rainworld is best rainworld

[opal ibex]

indeed

[silver musk]

Text messages are registered once per minute so there's no point in spamming

[sacred fox]

I did once; and then yelled in absolute victory when I survived the stupid rain deer never cooperate but the rain somehow does

[opal ibex]

lmao

[sacred fox]

What slugpups do if you leave them alone for five seconds:

[opal ibex]

me when the deers are less reliable than the rain

[grave stag]

will pop in here just to say my friend in her fp named scavs as trolls
so that may be the chart™ worthy name if it's not there already

[sacred fox]

[grave stag]

I agree with the naming convention tho

They truly are trolls

[glad storm]

my guy would really rather fall off the pit than fight arti

[sour bear]

i see

[opal ibex]

welp

[lyric moss]

I did Broadcast (challenge of suffering) and I like Sky Islands, looks like they have a good old case of the Skill Issue /lh

[opal ibex]

lmao

[opal ibex]

i mean it is their first time

they dont know throw boosting

[lyric moss]

True, yeah. My opinion of Skislands fluctuated a lot when I was newer, so I get that.

[opal ibex]

yea

[lyric moss]

The only part of Sky Islands I actively dislike is the disconnected paths between the west and east sides, the places you need tricks to cross

[opal ibex]

yea

also the area near FA is literally has a vulture spawner

[opal ibex]

oh yeah they've never been to chimney before

[grave token]

I forgot the consensus on movement (like rolling, pouncing, sliding etc.) is it a soiler?

[silver musk]

It is

[grave token]

It's a spoiler?

[silver musk]

Yeah

[grave token]

Got it

I didn't remember for absolute sure so

[opal ibex]

oh ok

at least i didnt spoil what u need to do for the movement tech

[tawdry crescent]

Guys how much harder is gourmand than survivor, I just finished survivor and when I buy downpour I think I will choose gourmand first

[glad void]

a fair amount but arguably less than artificer and less arguably less than hunter

[tawdry crescent]

Survivor was somewhat difficult but nothing felt impossible so I was just wondering how much harder it gets lol

[glad void]

you should make a first playthrough thread if you don't already have one

soilers in here !!

[grave token]

I wouldn't come here!!!
There's all spoilers for every campaign (except Watcher) unspoiled, as this is were us Felpers congregate to help people
If you have downpour, make a thread in #1272670046434492426 and we'll help you there if you'd like a spoil free experience!

[dark tiger]

i will just say that Gourm isn't that much harder, but it may require you to think outside of the box and experiment

[tawdry crescent]

I don’t have downpour yet so idk where to go

[grave token]

If you are playing Hunter without Downpour enabled, then go to #1269808032276152451

If you have Downpour and have it enabled, go to #1272670046434492426

[late copper]

(you can ask questions about Downpour in the associated forum even if you don't have it)

[tawdry crescent]

I wanna play downpour before hunter tbh I think that would be best

[tawdry crescent]

Thanks

[spare flax]

not at all

but yeah probably at the first playthrough threads and not guides but also im like 10 hours late to this

[grizzled prism]

imo gourm is somewhat hard if it's your first time playing the DLC but at the same time gives a good opportunity to explore the world and experiment with items before jumping into harder campaigns

[spare flax]

outskirts lookin fun

[grizzled prism]

messing around with a vanilla slugcat with DP enabled before going into gourm would make it bit easier imo

[tranquil mulch]

@north mural note regarding The food respawn counter also goes up even with deaths, there are several more details

as Gourmand, deaths will only contribute to the counter if it was on karma 1

[north mural]

Wow that's silly

Elaborate system

[tranquil mulch]

if (deathPersistentSaveData.karma == 0 || (saveStateNumber == SlugcatStats.Name.White && Random.value < 0.5f) || saveStateNumber == SlugcatStats.Name.Yellow)
{
    deathPersistentSaveData.foodReplenishBonus++;
    Custom.Log("Ticking up food rep bonus to:", deathPersistentSaveData.foodReplenishBonus.ToString());
}
else
{
    Custom.Log("death screen, no food bonus");
}

[narrow finch]

uh

afaik there are no centis in vanilla chimney right?

[dark tiger]

no

[narrow finch]

hmm

that means they have downpour enabled

[dark tiger]

their comment may just theyre annoyed with bugs in general

not just in cc

[narrow finch]

yeah that's true

i'll keep an eye out

[tranquil mulch]

but there are dropwigs, which do not exist in Downpour Survivor's CC 💥

[narrow finch]

wait real

[sage stirrup]

[spare flax]

#1373147834748239992 message

implications that it might be on at some point

maybe

but this is 20 hours ago why am i looking at it

[radiant night]

[north mural]

What matters is that it's not on anymore

[crude oxide]

felpers will carry to the top 🙏

[grave token]

Yes we will

Specifically me
I use a lot

[crude oxide]

i like a lot

[grave token]

Me too

[lyric moss]

AUGGHH HOT I SHOLD'VE LET IT COOL OFF

[grave token]

[glad void]

scavbot likes too

[grave token]

@sullen kraken take a read through the pins in this channel

[glad void]

rowboat do you like

[grave token]

[narrow finch]

i think i was the one that brought back the popularity of

but no matter who brought it back it's welcomed with greatness

[grave token]

[lyric moss]

Phew, much better temperature

[sacred fox]

[tranquil mulch]

doesn't have a cuphandle, 0/10

[lyric moss]

There should be an emote of a creature holding a cup handle. Just a handle.

Or emoji, idk, whatever the kids these days are calling it /silly

[grave token]

[opal ibex]

[grave token]

[opal ibex]

[grave token]

remove the spaces and it's one continuous image

[opal ibex]

fixed

[grave token]

It's so silly

[opal ibex]

so true

[grave token]

There's one with Riv iirc

Yea it's slapping SM

[opal ibex]

[grave token]

Bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk

[opal ibex]

since when can i send animated emojis lol

[narrow finch]

you have nitro i guess

[opal ibex]

no i dont

did discord actually do something good for once and allowed me to send animated emojis without nitro

[grave token]

I don't either and I can't send em

[opal ibex]

weird

wait

why tf do i have animated banner

[narrow finch]

:huntersleep1:

ok what

[opal ibex]

i have free trial nitro????

[grave token]

:huntersleep1:

[opal ibex]

since when

[glad void]

discord has just been blasting people with free trials without their knowledge lately

[opal ibex]

bruh

at least email me ffs

welp

[narrow finch]

wait does this mean sudden subscriptions

without consent

[opal ibex]

gotta make it worthwhile while it last

[glad void]

it can't bill you on a payment method that it doesn't know exists

[opal ibex]

[radiant night]

[narrow finch]

come on discord

[opal ibex]

[glad void]

so no

[narrow finch]

please give me free nitro

[grave token]

This makes zero sense but so much at the same time

[glad void]

they're trying to get people hooked on nitro so they buy it

[grave token]

Oh

[glad void]

at least that's what i think

[radiant night]

fp guide coordination ❌
ask for discord nitro ✅

[opal ibex]

uhhh

its a bit delayed

[opal ibex]

oh yea fun fact: in my first playthrough i didn't know i could spear lizards until they died

[grave token]

[opal ibex]

i know i could spear them but that seems to have only made them angy

(i only tried with with green lizor)

and hence thats how I ended up using vulture grubs to get rid of lizors in cc instead of killing them with spears

it... surprisingly worked pretty well

[quasi stirrup]

feeding the local wildlife

[opal ibex]

so true

ig thats why the vultures didn't harass me as much in sky islands

or maybe cuz i keep falling to my death and the vultures didn't have to do anything

[quasi stirrup]

never had a chance to eat you

i do know vultures have individual rep though

befriended an albino one in my spearmaster playthrough

[opal ibex]

huh

[quasi stirrup]

didn't target me as much anymore

[opal ibex]

as much?

[quasi stirrup]

apparently they can become more neutral

[opal ibex]

damn

what if u max ur rep with every creature and then just become the literal watcher

[quasi stirrup]

that's how console players will play the watcher campaign

[opal ibex]

real

[grave token]

@maiden ginkgo take a read through the pins in this channel/nm

[maiden ginkgo]

alr ty!!

[opal ibex]

lol

[tiny glacier]

Huh

Apparently Five Pebbles is divorced

[opal ibex]

what

[opal ibex]

lmaooooo

[grave token]

@maiden ginkgo please stop trying to imply things
Yes, rw is about experimenting, but we shouldn't try to imply to an OP that there's a huge decision to be made (ex. eating moons neurons, or leaving them) we never try to influence an OP's decision/nm

[maiden ginkgo]

ok sorry

[glad void]

@grave token .repost blast in vanilla first playthroughs

just kidding nevermind

[opal ibex]

yknow rolin is doin pretty well for first time moon

when i first saw moon i killed her cuz i was hungy and the rain was coming

[spare flax]

i was saved from the pit because someone in vc said "please watch your step" and then i saw there was nothing

beautiful background

[spare flax]

same ...

[sacred fox]

[lapis light]

[sacred fox]

Felping is fun guys

[quasi stirrup]

very fun

[grave token]

Why do you think I became a felper

[sacred fox]

For fun

[shrewd timber]

to post monksilly

[sacred fox]

Really hoping she does Gourm first so she could possibly get the Outer Expanse ending for Monk

[quasi stirrup]

don't forget about survivor

[radiant night]

she already played survivor

[quasi stirrup]

i know, i was referring to the oe ending

[north mural]

Yeah l think when she sees the OE Unlocked popup she'll definitely be inclined to revisit survivor to get that ending

[lyric moss]

I forgot - did Cas ever bring one of those to moon? Does she know what kind of soup she's made?

[sacred fox]

I think she has but could've forgotten

[lyric moss]

[opal ibex]

damn they gave up

[narrow finch]

this op is going to be really cool i think

they will be playing downpour after they become satisfied with hunter

[north mural]

Underhang with one of the hugest SM infinite food farms in the game:

[late copper]

There's no DLLs there as spear if that's what you mean

[north mural]

In underhang??

Oughh

That's evil actually..

The one time you'd care for em

I stayed largely away from underhang on my runthrough l wanted to take the more scenic routes with the stupid fetchquest

[sacred fox]

I was stuck for days and days as SM in underhang just trying to get enough food/karma for pebbles

[radiant night]

just lizard

kill the worms too

[sacred fox]

I still had skill issues when I played Spearmaster (and I still do I hate playing SM lol)

[shrewd timber]

Spearmaster lore:
Spearmaster gameplay:

[crude oxide]

so true

[spare flax]

true

[lyric moss]

Spearmaster enjoyers (like me) in shambles...

[radiant night]

Cool campaign you can hold two spears
jk here’s a pearl also you have no mouth

[lyric moss]

That part's valid

[crude oxide]

the problem with spearmaster's campaign is that we're introduced to a really cool feature of spear dual-wielding which works well with how you get food. but then this feature is taken from you for the most of your playthrough and you can do nothing about it. this ultimately just makes a worse hunter campaign

[lyric moss]

I guess I could see how that'd be a turn-off to some, true.

[sacred fox]

Spears is great for like combat and such, but the damage they deliver was also an issue as things like blue lizards would only give 1 food pip, 2 if I got there fast enough. Vulture combat was also a nightmare because if I wanted food from it, I'd have to keep the vulture from leaving, keep myself from getting eaten by the vulture, and regrow spears all while doing this. It's crazy how Miros vulture were the better option of food lmho
I'd kill so many things as SM but still have not enough food because I didn't have to time to regrow spears before getting attacked.
Also, SM's light weight made them injure/exhaust easily so I couldn't escape lizard bite fights because SM would just sit there and pant. (That last one I could be misremembering but I was just so frustrated at that point trying to get through underhang)

Then after all that, I discover scavs have taken the pearl I momentarily set down and have traveled all the way to Timbuktu

[opal ibex]

i have no mouth and I must pearl

[radiant night]

truer words have never been said

[opal ibex]

partially due to the fact spearmaster have no mouth

[grave token]

Anyone else notice the person just going into threads and sending random emojis? (Example #1366803388846702644 message )
They keep making threads with emojis like that and I'm starting to get anxious and slightly annoyed because they just send that and never say anything again

[gray musk]

Yeah.

[grave token]

They only have 5 messages and it's all mostly the same, I thought it was strange

[crude oxide]

they have another thread with nothing but emotes https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1374203233136021565

[gray musk]

Yeah. I was hust about to bring that up in helper channels which might be better suited for this discussion...

[grave token]

Prolly...

Mb I'll go there I've been so used to not being a felper

[gray musk]

Not really really a problem yet, but I'd keep an eye out on them.

[crude oxide]

if the op answers to this with another random emote i think we should just close the thread. feels like trolling or smth

[grave token]

They're here in this thread too now

[gray musk]

I'm going to make a ticket, just to be safe.

[grave token]

Thank you, I don't really know how to deal with stuff like this

[crude oxide]

they just sent another emote in their thread, it can't be unintentional

[gray musk]

ban% speedrun?

[grave token]

Could be

Who knows

[grave stag]

Someone probably, but I am not someone

[gray musk]

Welp, ticketed, so helpers know about it.

[grave stag]

If CAS starts new fp can someone then ping me to that thread

[gray musk]

We should make a cas ping list.

Ping list moved into the actual thread: #1366803388846702644 message

[crude oxide]

it's genuinely frustrating to see this when i follow a thread expecting another interesting playthrough

[gray musk]

Yeah.

[grave token]

Ping me!

[quasi stirrup]

me too

[narrow finch]

me three!

[lyric moss]

me 4️⃣‼️

(Just realized, that might not have been as funny as intended with the emoji thread situation... oops)

[opal ibex]

huh where

oh are they deleted now

[grave token]

They were banned, it's over now

[opal ibex]

damn

so spam

[grave token]

For troll

[opal ibex]

and/or trolling

ah

[opal ibex]

yknow i wish i engaged with the community when i played rw for the first time and sending progress in the thread

it seems fun to be on the first-playthrough end and talking to people

[grave token]

It is very fun

I just wish I documented better

[opal ibex]

it would mean i dont accidentally get basically half of arti spoiled

[crude oxide]

i was discouraged from making threads after my intro message was deleted where i wrote a whole essay and back then felpers didn't repost these messages and the .repost command didn't exist

[grave token]

Damn

[opal ibex]

damn

[crude oxide]

I'm glad it isn't a problem now

[olive pulsar]

Back in my day nobody had their own threads

It was just sorted depending on how far you had gotten through the game

I understand why they made the change

But I miss those times

🥹

[north mural]

Gimme a summon!!

[radiant night]

[sacred fox]

me please!

[shrewd timber]

I miss them too but we got way more cool stuff vs what we lost

Individualized playthrough threads where anyone can visjt and help vs a congregation of people all stuck in the same spot helping eachother, where anyone else can also help

It definitely shifted the culture of elping

[silver musk]

Ping me

[crude oxide]

weakest scav using 10% of his power

oh animoso's got a new pfp
it's rly cool

[quasi stirrup]

it's cute for sure

[narrow finch]

i can't tell, is this an mll or a dll?

[crude oxide]

idk

[narrow finch]

the small cysts in the center make me think mll but i'm not sure

[north mural]

Res quality makes it hard to tell but looks purple to me

[narrow finch]

you know i never noticed this disgusting detail, but the cysts actually like, "look" towards things they hear

[radiant night]

it looks like a mll because it is big

[opal ibex]

ooh add me

[narrow finch]

does anyone have any gifs of the mll named flat

[radiant night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315662587563868210/1315665457318985728/17590_BLL.gif

not it

[narrow finch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1268787006247538708/1268928556801458279/lineTLL_4691.gif

look at this beast

[radiant night]

wiggle worm

[narrow finch]

how is it even possible for a non bll long legs to have only 4 cysts

[crude oxide]

NOOOOOOOOOO NOT GUG STOP NO NO

[narrow finch]

that isn't gug

gug has yellow eyes

[crude oxide]

then it's fine

he looks like gug

[sacred fox]

That mll scares me

[radiant night]

if i was smart enough to make a gug variant....

[crude oxide]

idk if the op completed hunter campaign, should this be deleted?

[radiant night]

im unsure too but that is a large spoiler for hunter

[narrow finch]

soilers...

[radiant night]

yea i dont see op mentioning a hunter playthrough ever

[lyric moss]

Confusing phrasing, but I think it does?

[grave stag]

I think it was mentioned here before lizard's memory lessens feed amount each cycle which is hibernated

[narrow finch]

where to eventually you can stop manually feeding them right?

[grave stag]

was it by 3 for reds, cannot remember exact numbers but yeah lizards tend to forget how much they have been fed, they should remember they have been fed if there was more than 3 feedings in cycle

[lyric moss]

I figured that's what she meant by "taming trust"

[narrow finch]

and you just have to have the feeding offering right, they don't need to actually get back to their dens

[grave stag]

to that I don't know answer to

[narrow finch]

because i remember where i had an offering and the liz immediately dropped it, but then was chill afterwards

[lyric moss]

I think the feeding is what matters, but taking the food away doesn't help, so you'd have to either have them accidentally lose it or let them return home first anyway.

[silver musk]

check out the art! #arena-team-lizards message

[crude oxide]

oooh i see

[opal ibex]

@north mural i think its cuz they only tried eating dropwigs in their hunter playthrough

[crude oxide]

@tepid sage please do not tell region/subregion names the op hasn't been to yet, and if you don't know whether they've been there or not, don't assume they have. and please don't outright tell where to go and what to do, it's better when players experiment and discover things on their own.

[gray musk]

and if you haven't, please read through the pins in here.

[tepid sage]

okay sorry

[gray musk]

Is the term Karma a spoiler?

[north mural]

They saw the passages text blurb so they were priorly exposed to the word anyway

[crude oxide]

[spare flax]

hevc ,,,

[spare flax]

OUCH

[atomic locust]

it is only used ingame in regards to passages, so not really

[narrow finch]

should we tell her it doesn't so she doesn't waste her time?

[modern harness]

She wants to try it

Also she still doesnt know about Martyr lol

[narrow finch]

i wouldn't worry about martyr

[crude oxide]

[narrow finch]

she starved once pre downpour

and never did it again

[lyric moss]

She will randomly get martyr during Saint or something, and then panic and ask if that was a thing in all the other campaigns or something, calling it now

[narrow finch]

ok but like, what then

[lyric moss]

(I look forward to the eventual realization, but it is entertaining )

[lyric moss]

I mean, that's up to her, really

[narrow finch]

because she's gonna feel like an idiot i feel

[modern harness]

If she doesnt discover it till really late then thats what happens

[lyric moss]

You could say it would be a rite of passage

[narrow finch]

[silver musk]

How didn't she find martyr yet

[lyric moss]

I need to see her get the Martyr! Cas getting passages is fun, and I'm starving for more!!

[north mural]

She knows not of martyr's and mother's existence

[narrow finch]

she has starved before, but only before getting downpour

[north mural]

Though the latter is obvious not to know

[silver musk]

Oww

[narrow finch]

where does one find saintflabbergasted

[north mural]

Signs point to her playing gourm next tho

[silver musk]

saint spearmaster fan club

Can send you invite if you want

[narrow finch]

nah it's fine just curious

[quasi stirrup]

spear fan club with saint emotes

[opal ibex]

@marsh trout don't mention farm arrays my man lierally only been to outskirts industrial and drainage 😭

[radiant night]

@opal ibex 5P also only has 2 connections

[opal ibex]

oh right i forgor about pebsi

so sky island and pebsi are the only region with 2 connections pre-downpour

and subterranean is like psudo two connections unless u come from farm arrays

[radiant night]

In Sky island’s defense it is a small region

[opal ibex]

fair

smh vanilla sky island deserves more love

glad downpour expanded on it tho

[radiant night]

stinky region

not even on my hunter run* did I go there

[opal ibex]

damn

[quasi stirrup]

i like the dandelion effects but that's about it personally

[opal ibex]

my hunter run always goes FA -> SI -> CC

then i do whatever i wanna

[radiant night]

farm arrays to outskirts I can get the echo there on my way out

[opal ibex]

damn

what about SI echo

[quasi stirrup]

trying to carry a pearl and neuron with those long jumps, without knowing movement

[radiant night]

Don’t need sky island echo

[opal ibex]

damn

[opal ibex]

o ok

[glad void]

just learn movement and it won’t be a problem

[opal ibex]

frrrrr

[radiant night]

I got echos from farm arrays, exterior, and shaded

[opal ibex]

fair

[grave stag]

my initial hunter run was FA->Outskirts->DS->GW->lttm->SUB yeah it didn't go that well as I never was able to ascend :D

[opal ibex]

rip

[quasi stirrup]

teach me

[radiant night]

You got the cool cutscene tho right

[glad void]

backflip by walking in one direction then pressing the other direction + jump

[opal ibex]

mine was FA -> SI -> CC -> Exterior -> back to CC -> HI -> Shaded -> Lttm -> SB

[glad void]

after that hold down and a direction to start a roll

a few ticks before end of the roll jump

you’ll go a lot farther than a charge hop

[radiant night]

should learn to just go through exterior straight to shaded, so much easier /hj

[grave stag]

I really want to redo hunter, but I don't have new save to do so

[radiant night]

Time to reset one

[grave stag]

but but I have my pup there, I refuse to leave her alone in the cold harsh world

[quasi stirrup]

thank you, i'll try (and fall into a death pit )

[glad void]

or if you’re evil

start a slide

near the end of the slide throw an object backwards and jump one tick later

[grave stag]

falling to death pits isn't that bad

[glad void]

eijumps

[grave stag]

says me who always jumps there to check if it's death pit or not

[sacred fox]

In the future, can we please not tell Cas the answer to the question she is actively experimenting on?

[silver musk]

@opal ibex

[sacred fox]

Unless she explicitly asks for it/is visibly frustrated

[opal ibex]

oh sry

oops

[modern harness]

In general, do not tell players something if they didnt actively ask for an answer

[opal ibex]

iggy lying to new player tm

[quasi stirrup]

i always wondered why iggy showed a slugcat icon

no slugcat here

[opal ibex]

iggy manipulator

sugcat more likely to follow iggy if he shows a sugcat icon compared to looks to the moon

that or iggy means "slugcat, go there"

[narrow finch]

nah i always interpreted it as iggy gaslighting

[opal ibex]

so true

[quasi stirrup]

toxic iggy for sure

[opal ibex]

character development.

[quasi stirrup]

[grave stag]

I always thought I could find another slugcat that way ;-;

[opal ibex]

yknow when i first played rain world i got spoiled about the existence of farm array and the deers in places i really shouldn't have the spoilers

one is the beforeyouplay wiki which give spoiler free tips on games (like that slugcats movement can be very advanced) and (coloured pearls are very valuable)

the other place is literally the steam library page

and thus i referred to farm array and the deers as "the farm array everyone's talking about"

turns out everyone talked about it cuz it sucks

https://beforeiplay.com/index.php?title=Rain_World

this the wiki page btw

i still dont know what the second to last tip means despite completing the entire game

i still like the phrase "if you cant stand farm arrays" in the page

[quasi stirrup]

it may be referring to meeting moon

that's the only story related place i can think of that feels like a dead end

[glad void]

or the depths

i expected to go on that page and get blasted with spoilers but it’s surprisingly not that bad

the farm arrays one and the one about how karma goes up or down are the ones i don’t really like

[narrow finch]

yes go backwards when going into depths

i mean

surely the guardians ping ponging you against the walls was enough of a turn-around right

[glad void]

if you don’t have 10 karma

[north mural]

It'd be nice if there was greater hint of you missing a needed karma rank

A new player prolly wouldn't make the connection that this X thing all over the place is an unseen symbol from their wheel

That said l never got put into that situation anyway

Most ppl will leave anyway when they get fed up with being pingponged

[sacred fox]

[opal ibex]

o ok

[gray musk]

The contradictory urges to continue the chain and to break the chain.

[opal ibex]

:3

[gray musk]

@hearty igloo if you haven't yet, please read through the pins in here.

[hearty igloo]

K

[opal ibex]

guys

no more nitro

no more :hunterbop:

[quasi stirrup]

[sacred fox]

What food are you thinking of?

@radiant night

[quasi stirrup]

probably those green things that float in the water i forgot the name of

[sacred fox]

Lilypucks are downpour exclusive

Was why I was asking lol

[quasi stirrup]

huh. i never noticed

that's interesting then

bubble fruit maybe?

[radiant night]

Bubble fruit

Lilypucks take their place in dp

[sacred fox]

True

[radiant night]

That area would feel pretty barren if they never discover bubblefruit so I hope they do

[sacred fox]

I'm still learning all the little things in vanilla since I had downpour enabled for all my first playthroughs

[sacred fox]

Same here

[quasi stirrup]

me too

i should replay in vanilla sometime

[sacred fox]

Ye

[tranquil mulch]

may as well do RWSCs

[sacred fox]

That's how I've been getting to know vanilla

[quasi stirrup]

rwsc advertising

i've been planning to though so that would be a good idea...

[lyric moss]

You should do Broadcast!!! Join the Broadcast as first RWSC gang!! /j

(Well, /j unless you wanna. It's kinda fun in a painful and sadistic way!)

[glad void]

join us 🏷️

[lyric moss]

yes!! join us 🏷️

[sacred fox]

What if I don't want to do broadcast

To preserve what's left of my sanity

[lyric moss]

Then do thinreel instead!!!

You, uhh, climb up to the top of Communications Array with a vulture grub, then from there, go to the bottom shelter of Sky Islands without letting the grub fire a signal at any point. Kill a vulture in the last outside room, too!

That's thinreel!

✅

[quasi stirrup]

green 🟩

[lyric moss]

Broadcast is green because it just clicks

It also just clicks to be a writer and/or artist

(Context: "Just clicks" is an esoteric Dark Sould community joke related to green humor. My sense of humor might be too obscure... )

[crude oxide]

pink humour

[tender bloom]

*scribbles something on the ground with her claw*

The shape reminds you of Outdoorsman

[tranquil mulch]

.role @tranquil mulch outd

[tender bloom]

Sprinkles understands you!

It brings randi_moth the Outdoorsman role out of its hoard.
They steal Ascension from randi_moth and retreat to her den.

[tender bloom]

*scribbles something on the ground with her claw*

The shape reminds you of Offering

[opal ibex]

oh WTF

actually its doesnt seem that bad i just gotta not die to lizors whilst mousing

shaded -> industrial -> outskirt -> drainage -> subterranean sounds like good route

only problem is the mouse dragging you down

i would prob go as hmmm

monk

the red lizor in outskirt is way too much of a hassle as hunter

[glad void]

ohhh the offering rwsc

oops

[opal ibex]

yea ima try and see if i can plan it

[glad void]

the route i was planning to take was shaded > shoreline > sub

[opal ibex]

wait shoreline gots to sub im dumb

[glad void]

it gets you a lot closer to the albino levi

[opal ibex]

yknow that sounds so much nicer

and you dont have to deal with a noise rat in filtration

[glad void]

maybe we should take this to #vanilla-server-challenges

[opal ibex]

yea lol

[opal ibex]

fun fact: when doing Apex Predator, i picked both singularity bomb and item crafting

for miro vulture and red centipede respectively

i also found a spear in the exterior for DLL

except i threw the explosive spear wrong and lost it

and i just straight up speared the DLL to death cuz i dont wanna waste my singularity bomb

i ended up wasting it on a terrible throw at a red lizard instead

then i spent a few cycles trying to kill the lizor till i pinned it against the wall and killed it

then i went to grab a vulture grub, made like 1000 spears and stunlocked the miro vulture in citadel to death

and the for the red centipede in pipeyard, i made a spore puff

and proceed to yet again miss it and ended up spearing the red centipede to death

needless to say im the best bad player ever

[grave token]

I forgot the consensus on scavs in starting messages

[radiant night]

seems there is mixed answers since they technically are in outskirts

at least I have seen this question more than a few times 🙃

[grave token]

I'm aware it's mixed, it's been a while since the discussion so I'm making sure I remember right

[radiant night]

@atomic locust maybe it would be helpful to have the guidelines of what is and isnt a spoiler pinned in this chat
im mostly thinking of the visual one that was made for the off-topic channels (i at least find visuals to be easier to remember than a bulleted list, but both would be helpful!!)

insert ping of anyone else who would be interested

[grave token]

Just incase I reposted the message

Oh wait it mentioned the rep system yea repost that me thinks

[quasi stirrup]

for sure

[atomic locust]

I had considered re-using the offtopic gen one entirely but it does seem like some edits will need to be made; I do wanna do that though I agree itd be nice

?remindme #1270823904247546017 message in 13 hours

[gray ruin]

Gotcha, I'll remind you in 13 hours (<t:1748097788>).

[radiant night]

[spare flax]

anti soiler art soon smile

[opal ibex]

well looks to the moon cant really walk

her pupper has legs but im talking about LttM superstructure

so no

nvm gg they guessed "is ur character a blue robot from rain world" its so joever

fine its time to try

nineteen spades, endless reflection echo

HA I BEAT AKINATOR

:3

ima head to #1356256638541103114 for a watcher one now

[fresh atlas]

i think this would better be played in #spoiler-bigenderal or one of the meme discussion channels (since those are basically spoiler misc)

[opal ibex]

oh sry

[fresh atlas]

good luck though!!

[opal ibex]

thx

[silver musk]

akinator is really bad at guessing inv

[opal ibex]

and all watcher stuff

and the chimney canopy echo

[atomic locust]

<@&1137895527271379055> any thoughts on what edits you'd make to the #offtopic-agenderal rules to make em suitable for the policy for this channel?

I recall the lizard variants being restricted was proposed

[crude oxide]

I don't mind current rules

[glad void]

i support it

[opal ibex]

lol

[quasi stirrup]

the pink one is very cool looking, and matches sky islands

[opal ibex]

they got a fourth one

and they took that

also a scav stole the blue one and then got eaten by a lizor

[grave stag]

tales from my friends fp:
she met f5 via wall route, proceeds to in same cycle travel to UW gate shelter with 2 neurons without even trying to eat them before getting in the shelter
she hasn't seen moon or UW yet so UW spectating will be fun

[grave token]

I'd personally say No Scavs/variants-of-name, (due to how obscure they are, needing to go out of your way for them just like Pole plants), being able to mention greens in title/images, but no taming mechanics/mention of taming, no colored pearls/lore Mayhaps
Along with the (obvious) no mentioning past outskirts

Woah text wall

I just think the system we have in place is good, and adding the off topic rules leads to obscurity of what is and is not ok to mention in a title/opening message

[radiant night]

The scavs in outskirts are kinda hard to get to yea

[lyric moss]

Yep, I agree with all this!

[quasi stirrup]

me too i've noticed a lot of people tend to name scavengers something else, as the tutorial text that has their name/mechanics is in garbage wastes anyway

[glad void]

i’d also remove this part

the basic relationships part i mean

[grave token]

[glad void]

so far:
green lizard
pink lizard
blue fruit
batfly
rock
spear
iggy/yellow overseer
monk/survivor vanilla outskirts
vanilla slugcats (in vanilla fp)
msc slugcats (in msc fp)

• images of the above are okay
• relationships between the things above are not okay
• abilities of the things above are not okay

[quasi stirrup]

pearls in general i'm unsure about as well, since they fall under the same obscure area as scavengers

[glad void]

i agree

[atomic locust]

what system?

we dont have any coherent system that I'm aware of

personally I'd be fine with a "literally nothing" system but we dont really have that enforced

[grave token]

The system we have of nothing past Monk/Surv OS no lineaging mentions in title/first message

[atomic locust]

that's not really a system we uphold as far as I'm aware 🤔

we dont like pole plants, for example.

or wormgrass

[grave token]

That's just my opinion though

[atomic locust]

in fact, the No RW Discussion Past Outskirts ping has been replaced entirely for the new trial

[gray musk]

I feel like nothing past tutorial + pink and green lizards, white pearls.

[grave token]

I think what we have currently works, nothing past OS monk/surv no mentions of mechanics (like Liz taming/Scav rep) no lineage mentions, no worm grass, no scavs, & no pole plants

[atomic locust]

why pearls of all things..?

[grave token]

Actually good point

I just think nothing past the tutorial and allow pinks and greens

[gray musk]

idk. just feels something people would stumble uppon?

[fresh atlas]

aren’t white pearls only past the toll

[gray musk]

Spears and rocks are of course fine.

[grave token]

MSC exclusive white pearls my beloved

At least I believe the pearls are MSC exclusive

[gray musk]

So nothing past tutorial with the exception of pink and green lizards and rocks and spears?

[sacred fox]

What about Iggy?

[grave token]

That's what I was thinking, took a while but yea I agree with this

[fresh atlas]

iggy is not past the tutorial

[gray musk]

They make a appearance in the tutorial... so yes?

[sacred fox]

Ok wait took me a minute sorry

Ty

[fresh atlas]

oh lmao. me when i’m unaware

[radiant night]

Iggy is fine tho I think it would be good to encourage people to give it a unique name too

[fresh atlas]

i mean we also have an emote named :overseer: so

and the. Staff role

[glad void]

staff talking in fp threads is now a spoiler

[radiant night]

ban them

repeated offense

[opal ibex]

lmao

[opal ibex]

add pole pouncing and rain cuz those are in the tutorial area

[opal ibex]

oh yea sprinkles is literally a cyan lizor

and we are not banning sprinkles

[tranquil mulch]

?ban @tender bloom

[gray ruin]

Sprinkles the Lizard has been banned.

[atomic locust]

actually, sprinkles could be banned, right..?

I dont think it has any roles that are considered "moderation" roles

[opal ibex]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[tender bloom]

@tranquil mulch *BITES YOU!*

[tranquil mulch]

i think so

I am not testing this though

[atomic locust]

might be wise to throw an Overseers at it

to prevent any future incidents

[tranquil mulch]

spam ping snadow for that
except don't actually because she's not up for random pings rn

[dark tiger]

The good timeline

[crude oxide]

buh bye sprinkles

[sour bear]

sprinkles is gone

[north mural]

I watched sprinkles die

[opal ibex]

tragic

[quasi stirrup]

saddest moment in rain world history

[grave token]

Is this room MSC? Looks like OS

I could be wrong

[north mural]

I think that's outskirts towards drainage

[grave token]

Maybe it is

[north mural]

Yeah it's the tall room with the paddle pool at the bottom

Recognized instantly

[atomic locust]

regular vanilla

rare screen tho

[radiant night]

[grave token]

Oh

Of course it's SU_C01

[crude oxide]

honestly, there is

[gray musk]

But it's up to them to find it.

[radiant night]

in speedruns or planned routes yes
not in a first attempt where they don’t know anything about hunter,,

any connection out of farm arrays works though, each leads to or near an echo

[radiant night]

@north mural I think you should let them form theories on rainworld however they want instead of telling them it’s wrong

[opal ibex]

ummm

uhhh

bro got max karma before pebsi

[grave token]

It's happened before

Not very common, but still happens

[opal ibex]

damn

yea

now they're going from wall to pebsi

through going back down the wall into CC

and the getting to shaded which they somehow haven't been to

[opal ibex]

"Farm -> Sky -> Sky -> Sky -> Omg i hate sky island -> Finally CC -> Indus- nop still CC cuz a king vulture sniped -> Industrial -> Shaded -> Moon -> Garbage -> Drainage -> Subterranean -> Farm array somehow -> Sky island again -> CC -> Wall -> Pebsi -> Pebsi interior -> Uberhang+Leg+Shaded -> Shoreline -> Garbage -> Garbage again cuz u used all the porls -> Industrial -> CC -> Sky -> Farm Array -> Subterranean -> End" seems like a pretty bad route ngl

[radiant night]

I mean that’s not possible without a lot of tech most people don’t know

[grave token]

CTF...

[radiant night]

do it on controller NOWWWW