Old FP Guide Coordination [Archived]

[turbid bane]

the main issue in gladiator isnt even killing the red

[grave token]

Wait gladiator is kill 3 reds in 3 different areas qhar

[turbid bane]

its getting the red to spawn in a good spot and other creatures to not annoy you

[grave token]

True

[turbid bane]

yes

usually SU - HI - GW is the route people take

[grave token]

The only challenge I'll probably ever be able to do is Pilgrimage with a Cyan, and neuron gifting

[turbid bane]

theres definitely more you can do

[grave token]

I know I can do more lol

It's just I don't wanna

Not rn

[turbid bane]

fair enough

[grave token]

I'm STILL trying to do pilgrimage

[grave token]

They're bombs of course they are strong lmao

[grave stag]

You throw something that explodes right 10cm from you and expect nothing bad would happen :D

[grave token]

Yup

What could go wrong- fucking explodes to death

[grave stag]

But tbf the grenades are more powerful than could be thought. I still myself sometimes underestimate the grenades power

[grave token]

Same lmao

[grave stag]

I only have something along the lines of 690ish hours on rw and still underestimate the grenades :D

God forbid if we talk about explosive spears as I still fully know how much they can harm aka where you can stand without getting hurt :)

[grave token]

cries in 249 hours /hj

[grave stag]

only that little? :D

[grave token]

Yea

[grave token]

I... don't know how to help, can someone else help 'em?

[twin ridge]

#1338998057261469786 message hold up is this a 3rd echo while figuring out how to use rain deer to head west

[late copper]

pretty sure they got 4 echoes

[twin ridge]

the message i just linked said they've got 3

[late copper]

they got shaded, chimney and farms

I thought they got wall as well

nah they didn't

[teal timber]

If they meet the echo of Two Sprouts, Twelve Brackets...

[twin ridge]

just be cautious going into sub pit please

a rare first playthrough shaded echo

[twin ridge]

Is there any way it could be made clearer to avoid putting spoilers in the first message of a first playthrough post
It seems like over half of them need to be told to remove the spoilers

[gray musk]

a bot that automatically sends a message in the thread, when it's made?

[grave stag]

and in this scenario it would also delete the first message too?

[grizzled prism]

or just ping the person to warn them that the message includes a spoilery word

automatic deletes can result in many false positives and also idk how one would code to check only the first message

[late copper]

not sure about automatic deletion, but sending a reminder message in each newly created thread could be good

[grave stag]

<@&1137895527271379055> https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1340332431525543946 past outskirts area spotted in entry message.

[hoary hemlock]

thanks shardi

[grave stag]

Np. Spotting these is kinda fun :D

[gray musk]

No, just tell them to edit out any spoilers.

Might delete for heavy spoilers, but mainly just notify them.

[crude oxide]

i remember writing a whole essay in the very first message in my thread, it got deleted and it discouraged me from continuing the thread entirely

[late copper]

deleted without reposting

[crude oxide]

#1322956288854065162 message #1322956288854065162 message #1322956288854065162 message #1322956288854065162 message

[teal timber]

Given Castrix is having so much fun finding variants, is the cone lizard a spoiler

[turbid bane]

cone lizard?

wwhats a cone lizard

[silver musk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958418404769943572/1083007644903673988/unknown.png?ex=67b1ddf7&is=67b08c77&hm=8b6c16f30002aab7d0d03fc161894807c2167f5a6a085571fe8e1c8cce05b5f6&

[turbid bane]

what is that

a cone lizard is a lizard with wide and long spikes?

[grave token]

Found this in a vanilla forum post lmao

[grave stag]

<@&1137895527271379055> #1340414856624603146 message

[hoary hemlock]

:3

[teal timber]

someone else remebers the ancient tales

[silver musk]

back in my days porcupine lizard was the celebrity 👴

[teal timber]

The porcupine lizard?

[silver musk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1243861916989001810/1243862408523415675/image.png?ex=67b1b3a4&is=67b06224&hm=77cbe0d42a1a552e7d5f7b194c284b846054161c5c45734120660b5cca48dfee&

[teal timber]

I don't remember that one

[crude oxide]

#downpour-spoilers message

[teal timber]

That's not that old

[silver musk]

it was very popular like.... one and a half years ago

[teal timber]

The Cone Lizard dates back to 2022

Lesser known fact: it was tame

[crude oxide]

that lizard has the mark too!!

[teal timber]

... I feel old

[turbid bane]

[glad void]

cone

[twin ridge]

#1340399128085008444 message this is a bit too much info, right?

<@&1137895527271379055> boo

[teal timber]

probably?

[grave token]

Soilers?

Ah I didn't know they've already met Pebby

[modern harness]

They did, but telling them its required to beta the game is too much info

[grave token]

That is true

I'm on the look out for soilers

[grave token]

Chat I'll brb gonna solve the inv puzzles then rejoin the thread

Feel free to keep up with my thread, or don't idc lmao #1282436849675014288

Ok now I'm gone

[modern harness]

@verbal vale You cna look at the pins here to see how to help people out in forums

[grave token]

Holy shit chat I did it (intentionally this time)

[twin ridge]

[grave token]

Is what I said too much (after this message feel free to join in)

Side note: the "stags" are the deer

[tranquil mulch]

i bet the name comes from hollow knight lmao

also @teal timber new one for the list

[grave token]

Hell yea W game mentioned

[mighty fjord]

one of my friends is playing rain world for the first time

he called snails "popticks"

[lapis talon]

[modern harness]

oh

sorry

[crude oxide]

the true fphurter🙏

[turbid bane]

🥹

[shrewd timber]

unlucky

[thin rampart]

[shrewd timber]

Real talk this has happened to me one time

And I make sure that it's only one time 😭 🙏

Ofc like, we're doing our best to make first playthroughs have the most biblically accurate maximize their enjoyment of the game, but we gotta make sure that how we go about making that happen doesn't alienate people

Example: I've found that while saying "Don't Worry About Progress and Explore! You'll find something soon!" is objectively correct advice, for someone that's been lost for a long time it's not very helpful and can make them more frustrated with the game. At the very least I try to give them some nudge about , and/or reassure them that their progress isn't for vain

Anyways that's just my Philosophy™️

[atomic locust]

guideline 3 ‼️

[shrewd timber]

‼️‼️‼️‼️

[atomic locust]

if someone looks like theyre gonna start wikiing, i sometimes just give them info directly

no point in stressing over it tooo much but if it keeps em from diving into full spoilers it is nice

[shrewd timber]

TRUE !!!

[grave token]

They did good

[crude oxide]

#1340739338983440483 message
i got the OE ending after doing the food quest so i genuinely have no idea

[grave token]

https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1340726824426274886
Found someone telling the OP exactly where to go

[atomic locust]

@sinful sail we have some nice guidelines for helping others pinned here if you wanna help out 🙂

[grave token]

Thanks Kalum idk how to handle this as well as you do

[sinful sail]

alright sorry again didnt mean to break any rules

[grave token]

It's fine
Just wanted to bring you here so you could read pins

[crude oxide]

i think this channel should be more accessible. I personally didn't know about it until I was pinged here for the same reason. people want to help, not knowing they might say too much, so seeing guidelines beforehand would help a lot

[gray musk]

expanding on this idea, it could include a warning to remove any spoilers from the first message, but also say something about not trying to help without first checking the related info.

[grave token]

[grizzled prism]

~a first playthrough categoryyy

[gray musk]

Yeah, making it a separate channel to make it more visible might be better.

[grave token]

I forwarded it from theirs into mine by accident the actual thread is #1340261621926334485

Bro left the server after saying this

They were so close to ascending as Hunter too

This guy is just soiling

[dark tiger]

bro got a precycle as hunter...

msc moment

[grave token]

Hrm

Who did?

[dark tiger]

this one

i scrolled up

[grave token]

Ah

[crude oxide]

that's so understandable because i uninstalled too once

[grave token]

Should I be worried for this person???

[glad void]

they absolutely could’ve done it

if they knew about the subterranean shoreline gate

[grave token]

That's what I'm saying

But they left the server

[glad void]

[merry lintel]

heh?

[grave token]

Hi

Coordination thread is too coordinationing stuff

(Check pins for helping people)

[merry lintel]

what stuff?

[glad void]

also read the chart while you’re at it
(the chart is a collection of names given to things by first playthroughers)

[glad void]

the name says it all

[merry lintel]

oh me dumb

[grave token]

To coordinate like, if someone is getting spoiled by someone, in which case we link it here and Felpers deal with it

[merry lintel]

i see

so like a whole clan of purposed minimods practically XD

[grave token]

Pretty much yea

[sinful sail]

ok (im STILL super sorry and sad about what i did)

[merry lintel]

so how exactly does one link a message?

[grave token]

Forwarding the message

[grave token]

That also works

[merry lintel]

i see

[glad void]

[grave token]

Another one

[atomic locust]

pretty common to sniff the wiki a few times

not the end of the world

[grave token]

Eh true, I just didn't think it would be that common

Gonna go continue Inv so have fun y'all

[glad void]

good luck

[merry lintel]

so basically we just give players unbiased unspoilered help and get rid of spoilers?

is what i gathered from that?

[grave token]

Somewhat yes

Check pins

[merry lintel]

thats what i did

[gray musk]

less help, more minor nudges.

[merry lintel]

right

ok

did not expect this to happen today but uh

not complaining

[grizzled prism]

you can ping helpers to delete any spoilers n stuff

[gray musk]

*should

[grizzled prism]

[grave token]

I usually forward the spoiler message and it gets dealed with

[grizzled prism]

ye that's a nice clean way to deal with it

helper pings in general are awesome <3<3<3 do not be scared to ping really (for like serious purposes)

[grave token]

But the Felpers are scary

[grizzled prism]

nuh uhhh

[grave token]

There's so many of them

[grizzled prism]

the community helper army:

[grave token]

It's like holding a handful of chocolate around little kids

They swarm you

[grizzled prism]

[gray musk]

know the feeling...

[grizzled prism]

nooooooo

we're not scaryyyy

[grave token]

Yea huh

[twin ridge]

ping them, you'll see

[crude oxide]

what chall haven't you done?

[grizzled prism]

helpers are just regular people nothing scary I pwomise

[grave token]

Fr it's like holding a bunch of candy around a whole school of preschoolers, they swarm you quickly and scarily /silly

[twin ridge]

Gladiator

[crude oxide]

ohhh good luck

[gray musk]

If there is a good reason defenetly ping one, and if you can't find one just @fphelper

[grave token]

True

I meant that message jokingly, but still

I forgot the /silly

[glad void]

[gray musk]

Yeah, I prefer to ping a specific person, but think about it like this: The longer you wait, the bigger the chance somebody gets spoiled.

[grave token]

Usually when I forward a message it gets dealt with quickly

[gray musk]

(you don't need to ping fphelpers if you are one :)

[twin ridge]

i prefer mass pings

[grave token]

This is why Felpers are scary /j

[gray musk]

Yeah it gets dealt with quickly that way.

[crude oxide]

that's why I've applied for one

[grave token]

I've also applied

Guess we must wait and see

[glad void]

at what point is your first playthrough not a first playthrough

[grave token]

Uhh the second time around

[gray musk]

I also applied last time Kalum advertised it. Will see how it ends up...

[crude oxide]

surely we'll get a response
in like a few months

[glad void]

would i be allowed to have a first playthrough thread if i was a felper

[grave token]

cough cough Kalum when do Fp applications open up cough cough

[gray musk]

talking about 𝘾𝙖𝙨𝙩𝙧𝙞𝙭?

[twin ridge]

they're always open unless otherwise specified
actually taking new people noone knows

[grave token]

Take me next please I beg

[glad void]

no

[merry lintel]

so is this all just for threads or everywhere?

[gray musk]

If you never played the scug previously I guess yes?

[glad void]

would i still be allowed to have a first playthrough thread if i haven't completed every possible combination of expeditions

[atomic locust]

oh yeah I forgot we should review those again soon

cough
@turbid bane
cough

COUGh

COUGH COUGH

[twin ridge]

no you must have 100%ed every aspect of the game, even beyond the achievements

otherwise it's still your first playthrough

[crude oxide]

i think it's fine as long as the campaign you haven't completed is inv
but it would definitely be better if you complete other campaigns before becoming a felper

but that's just what i think

[twin ridge]

i'm pretty sure everything except gelper and fphelper had some new ones recently now

you have a month before watcher

[grizzled prism]

of course

why wouldnt you be

[grave token]

My ONLY campaign I have not completed is Inv

[crude oxide]

me too

[twin ridge]

i haven't finished inv by getting echoes
<@&1249102247543963769> though

[gray musk]

me who only completed the base game campaigns: ehhh

[grave token]

I'm actually working on Inv through echoes because idk if Pebbles is available (based on the hell that the Leg is)

[grave token]

And what exactly is commitment I must ask

[quick elk]

Slight Inv spoiler ||Pebsi doesn't give karma||

[twin ridge]

beat inv in under 27 minutes

[grizzled prism]

inv any% speedrun

[grave token]

Speedrun cerchow

[twin ridge]

indeed

[grave token]

Oh damn

[glad void]

commitment seems humanly impossible

[grave token]

Chat don't trust me with spoiler tags my monkey brain is monkey see monkey click soiler tag

[quick elk]

You can just go Shaded > Shoreline > Subterranean and guardian skip

[twin ridge]

you should do commitment

[glad void]

oh

[grizzled prism]

it has a buncha cool skips

[glad void]

that sounds a lot more doable then

[crude oxide]

I've done ascension so I'm content, don't need more speedruns

[twin ridge]

ascension is pretty cool

commitment is better tho

[grave token]

All I know is dating sim for inv

[quick elk]

Commitement is just a gamble at certain parts imo

[glad void]

what

[quick elk]

If you get bad RNG you are just screwed

[glad void]

don’t elaborate actually i don’t want to kniw

[grave token]

You heard me

[crude oxide]

ascension is the challenge that made me want to do rwsc's so finally doing it feels special

[grave token]

How do you get ascension

[twin ridge]

reach pebbls and ascend as surviv in under 39 minutes

[grave token]

I know I should check the sheet but I feel too lazy

[grave token]

Oh dayum

[grizzled prism]

get to the final transition in the void sea to be exact

[quick elk]

Ascension is a server challenge for completing game in 39 mins, Pabbles%, Ascended is a role for doing 20 challenges

[grave token]

So when speedrun timer stops time?

[turbid bane]

what

[grizzled prism]

so like one room worth of swimming in honey

[twin ridge]

yea

[twin ridge]

apply for fphelper

[turbid bane]

why

[twin ridge]

kalum said so

[atomic locust]

this is true I think

[grave token]

I'm somewhat decent at Felping aren't I

[turbid bane]

[quick elk]

You can just use /challenge Ascension command

In #vanilla-server-challenges that is

[grizzled prism]

you know when you swim through one room in the void sea and the next one is like infinitely long with all the whole ending sequence?
the timer stops the moment you reach that transition

[quick elk]

(Command doesn't work here)

[turbid bane]

(you dont have to type in the full thing btw)

/challenge ascen or however short it can go idk

[grave token]

Ah neat

I don't think I could record the whole run bc Xbox is just like that

[crude oxide]

chalver wisdom🙏

[grave token]

Lies

[gray musk]

that room is cool cause it's the only scrolling room in the game.

[grave token]

And discord only lets me send clips under 30 seconds

[grizzled prism]

pls ping reply y'all /lh

[quick elk]

It isnt a room, technically. The game just makes scrolling section as a part of the code

[glad void]

just beat rain world in 30 seconds

[grave token]

Ok bet downloads dev tools /j

I can't even download dev tools lmao Console be like that

[crude oxide]

Randi's ascension submission

[gray musk]

it's still cool.

[grizzled prism]

yea some challs like ascension are currently near impossible because of the recording requirement

just need the timer patch for console

[grave token]

[merry lintel]

ive checked a few threads but havent found anything so thats good

[grave token]

Most threads die around this time

Except mine (cough cough go check it out this is a shameless plug)

[merry lintel]

huh

thats weird

[merry lintel]

i already have tho-

[grave token]

Ok chat now I'm gonna do a silly thing (in my thread)

Ba bai

[merry lintel]

bai

[crude oxide]

found it #vanilla-server-challenges message

[ornate glade]

Ooo

[grave token]

Wow you have a lot of food pips

[glad void]

2000…

2000 blueberries…..,,,

[modern harness]

Telling them the guide will lead them to that region is a spoiler

Also, the guide literally wont because they ate neurons :p

@ornate glade ^

They ate Moon's neurons

So the gudie will only show them beign impaled them abandon them

[ornate glade]

Ok

[glad void]

probably don’t say why the overseer is gone though

that’s just information they never asked for

[glad void]

they’re trying to go somewhere that has nothing there

i don’t think their camera is actually stuck

[thin rampart]

Suspicious new yellow orbs at shoreline I wonder what that entails

[grizzled prism]

[merry lintel]

what is that

huh

[thin rampart]

Hi Crystka

[thin rampart]

Dw about it

[merry lintel]

:C

[merry lintel]

good thing reddit exists

[ornate glade]

I think it’s better to experiment it yourself…

[merry lintel]

hmmmmmm

ok then :P

[thin rampart]

Yeah if you don't know what it is, I think it'd be better to learn what it is for yourself

[grave stag]

I went here before opening anyone else's thread as I read rules many time over and over to be sure of stuff :D

[thin rampart]

I found this before talking in any forums cause I read shadows pinned forum

[teal timber]

[teal timber]

w-what'd Randi do-

[grave token]

Hehe

[glad void]

[grave token]

[merry lintel]

i didnt realize how difficult it is to not reveal anything

to the person 0.0

[glad void]

[fickle tusk]

it makes me feel like im talking in riddles

[glad void]

it’s a pink

[merry lintel]

are the threads reserved for JUST first playthroughs or can i put a document of a pleythrough thats not exaactly my first?

[shrewd timber]

#1269822681059168367 message It's linked in the pinned post on the FP Forums but I get the sentiment

[late copper]

This is fine

[merry lintel]

like i can do it?

[late copper]

yes

[merry lintel]

yippeee

[crude oxide]

#vanilla-server-challenges message

[late copper]

(I don't think they've been to FP)

[gray musk]

people are idiots and rarely read rules.

[shrewd timber]

sob emoji

[gray musk]

Bad April fools idea: Accidentally drop a spoiler about a 3rd iterator in the map.
(Don't do, seriously a bad idea)

[grave stag]

no don't do that

I remember accidentally finding out there is 3 iterators in game and then spending 4 hours trying to find the third one on the map

[gray musk]

ouch.

[grave stag]

that was better experience than trying to refind moon at gutter :D

[gray musk]

ouch...

[gray musk]

technically, it isn't a spoiler, so it's not against any rule, but... yeah. Again, don't do, expect to be punished.

[grave stag]

it will lead someone to wiki out of frustration most likely

[grave stag]

it was not that bad tho, as it's only fraction of playtime I have spend on rw currently sitting bit less than 700 hours of gameplay atleast it made me to learn map better after going through gutter extremely well :D

[grave token]

How do they know the name

[glad void]

from being SOILED

[atomic locust]

everyone gets a little soil

I knew a good bit tbh

[dark tiger]

a lot of it can come from passing conversation

[glad void]

small amount of soil

[dark tiger]

doesnt mean they actually know how the mechanics work or anything

[grave token]

True

[atomic locust]

I knew...

• Blue lady
• There is a place called "Sky Islands"
• There are baby slugcats (False but I based all of my theories on it for the first half of my playthrough)

[glad void]

they don’t know how to Summon the derr

Derr

[grave token]

Derr

[glad void]

i saw a picture of an orange lizard in an orange area (which was sky islands) and i was constantly wondering when i would find that lizard

[atomic locust]

and at one point I found out that a place called "Five Pebbles" existed as a lategame area and I thought itd be like, the name of the slugcat settlement safe from the rain where I'd find the baby slugcats

[glad void]

that’s wonderful

[glad void]

from before i made my fp thread

ignore the bottom message

[grave token]

TERRARIA

[glad void]

i only found one message relating to yellow lizards

i could’ve sworn i yapped about them more before i found sky islands

this hurts

i remember getting to depths and not being able to go forward

after dying to guardians like 10 times i was given a Hint
i had to go up apparently so i did that and spent like 15 hours looking for five pebbles

i knew that five pebbles was a thing that existed and that i “had” to go there

[glad void]

like halfway through my search i found this gate and couldn’t go to it because i didn’t have enough karma and instead of karma farming i just didn’t go through it

anyway there’s my Life Story

[feral shale]

must find little slugkitties

[grave token]

Chat I'm surrounded by rwsc's

[atomic locust]

maybe you called them by another name

[quick elk]

Join us

[grave token]

Oh fine lemme finish the food quest as gourm and I'll try @Fasting

[glad void]

i don’t think so

[crude oxide]

i enjoyed the chall a lot so i thought why not hint at it

[grave token]

Fair enough

[teal timber]

What actually happens if you give a vulture a mask from a different vulture?

[modern harness]

You cant

Itll just kill you then leave

[teal timber]

awwwwwwwwwwww

[grave token]

#1330157560933908490 message
send a to help our cause

[shrewd timber]

Oops

[grave token]

Cas is onto smth I think

Yup Cas is cooking again

[grave token]

Pmerson needs help (in Underhang I believe?)https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1341172432706469929

Scratch that they got it

[glad void]

it was wall i think

[grave token]

Felpers can deal with this

(Cough cough) Felpers

[glad void]

there's always the ping

wait did you reply ping thme

if not i'll ping them

them as in the person who made that thread

[grave token]

I did but I deleted the message

[glad void]

okay no point in pinging them twice then

[grave token]

Because the way I worded it implied there are multiple endings so

[atomic locust]

@meager raven even that is kinda saying outright that the DLC has another

kinda a hard line to toe around when answering but I think it's best to just say as little as possible 🤫

[meager raven]

Good enough

[grave token]

I was gonna say Kalum there is two endings with downpour enabled but only one without

[glad void]

downpour isn't real

so there's one ending

[grave token]

But that was the wrong place to say that so yea

[grave token]

I found a job for Felpers to deal with#1341271764503629874 message
(Yet another spoiler message into)

Where are all the Felpers I swear

Scratch that I handled it

[glad void]

#1333370155098706004 message msc content ?!! in vanilla first playthrough?!!

i think gooieducks are msc

[tranquil mulch]

yea

[turbid bane]

[grave stag]

<@&1137895527271379055> do we consider stuff in this message to be spoilers? #1341411213682151444 message

[silver musk]

Probably not. This is just meta progression (if you can call it that way lol) and doesn't spoil much

[grave token]

Oh they're collecting the morbs
Neat

[modern harness]

Are we supposed to tell players how to performa glitch if its, really not required? I dont think theyve even seen the Moon entrance, idk

[dark tiger]

i would say no

it's not to prevent a softlock, so it's both unnecessary and unintended

[glad void]

[turbid bane]

shes onto something again

[grave stag]

I mean they had beaten one campaign already so no way they would have stopped there

[grave stag]

she will have half or 2/3 of the wiki in her notes when she is done with surv :D

[turbid bane]

ONLY surv

monk is gonna be bad for her

if she misses the pearls that is

[grave stag]

I still have no idea what this monk porl thing is :D

[turbid bane]

in vanilla monk's pearls are "faded" due to how much time has passed

iirc they have no information left on them

someone may need to correct that

[grave stag]

I think they still have info on them

[turbid bane]

lemme check rq

[twin ridge]

you can't get lore off them in monk, yea

[grave stag]

I don't know how much my playing through monk with downpour enabled changed stuff tho .-.

[turbid bane]

i hope shes gonna complete that pearl bucket list on surv

🥹

(and i also hope she realises you cant get every white pearl )

[grave stag]

ehhh, that may end up into her causing scav massacare while stealing all their porls :D

[turbid bane]

<@&1134649894355869756> reference?

or is it a <@&1178075186747166810>

[atomic locust]

theyre just white pearls

not blanked

[turbid bane]

[tiny glacier]

Does cas know about pearl reading?

[teal timber]

no

they know Looks to the Moon can comment on things

[tiny glacier]

That’s sad

Unfortunate

Maybe they’ll bring a pearl

[grave stag]

seeing how cas has proggressed so far I think they will bring pearl to the moon

[teal timber]

at some point they'll do the entry on Looks to the Moon

then comes the lore-hunting

[atomic locust]

hm.

doesnt using The Scholar show moon with pearls?

would require using up the passage token

[teal timber]

Yes, it does, but the chances of that appearing are low. There are many Passages

[atomic locust]

the chances arent low if you use every single one you've unlocked

[teal timber]

It's also a clue that pearls grant progress towards the Scholar - I think what Castrix is more likely to notice is that Five Pebbles seems to like pearls.

[teal timber]

Who does that?

[atomic locust]

someone who spends 500 cycles in their survivor run maybe ¯_(ツ)_/¯

(Yeah I figure Passage Hoarding would prevent this)

[teal timber]

Who seems to enjoy travel

[atomic locust]

I've been trying to get past my video game resource hoarding lately

[twin ridge]

i think castrix is likely to notice that pebbs has coloured pearls, and want to bring one to moon to see what she says
they've already brought pebbs one of moon's neurons

[teal timber]

or just naturally think of pearls when brining Looks to the Moon random stuff

I mean, there are pearls everywhere there

[grave token]

I think they're crazy

[teal timber]

They're right, just several cycles too late

(don't tell them that)

[meager raven]

The nearest spawn is in outskirts right?

[late copper]

Garbage

[meager raven]

oh right

that specific room I hate so much in spearmaster campaign

[grave token]

Bringing Moon drugs yay (by drugs I mean mushrooms from a different area )

[turbid bane]

OH MY GOD YES

[silver musk]

HUGE

[crude oxide]

now she'll definitely do scholar

[turbid bane]

yeah

its even more likely due to her knowing where the colored pearl in subterranean is

the harder one

[crude oxide]

it's def not the hardest one

[gray musk]

Does Castrix know the name Scavengers?

[gray musk]

thanks, can't search much on phone, but I'll remember this trick.

[crude oxide]

someday I'll record all coloured pearl readings, i still haven't moved those pearls after doing scholar

[gray musk]

@karmic quarry you seem new. Have you been over the pinned messages about helping in here?

[crude oxide]

don't give castrix too much info, I'm sure she'll figure it all out eventually

[turbid bane]

avoid giving out new information entirely unless the op asks for it

[grave stag]

I really gotta do pearl collecting at some point, dunno if I should finish my expedition grind before that tho

[turbid bane]

<@&710572930102460486>

[crude oxide]

do scholar

[turbid bane]

[gray musk]

Talking to me?

[grave stag]

But but I want to have downpour enable for downpour porls!

[crude oxide]

to yall

[turbid bane]

i think we are all talking to Spumple

oh

[gray musk]

I think just giving the definition of iteration should be fine, but she shouldn't need anything more.

[grave stag]

Cas does not need any additional info as they have managed to parse together info so well already

[gray musk]

unless you have math/code knowledge you might not know what iterating means...

[meager raven]

People should know what "repeating" means

[grave stag]

And even then you may not know what that means. As math knowledge usually is in native language instead of English. Language barriers are indeed a thing :d

[gray musk]

I think defining iterating as repeating something is okay.

[turbid bane]

oh my bad then

or is mine okay?

[gray musk]

imo, the programing definition of a iterator might be a bit confusing, as in programing it's a thing to be iterated over, but in RW it's the thing performing the iteration.

[crude oxide]

#1322956288854065162 message

[quick elk]

[tranquil mulch]

I have the desire to correct this

I would never be a FP helper,,,

[turbid bane]

you are literally rain world wiki

so uh... every helper besides FP

[tranquil mulch]

The puppet is just a body part

[turbid bane]

i actuallyy never knew that

[tranquil mulch]

i cannot draw

[turbid bane]

and Alper

NO FUCKING WAY

LETS GO

[quick elk]

[crude oxide]

sloggers

[quick elk]

Can't wait for them to figure out the entire EP thing

[turbid bane]

EP?

[quick elk]

Erratic Pulse

[turbid bane]

i have actually no idea what that is LMAO

[tranquil mulch]

Iterators fairly regularly refer to each other as the entire structures, e.g. SL_chimney in which Moon calls herself a small part of an organism or SB_ravine in which UI refers to the Rot scattering down FP's legs

[quick elk]

FP made an alt account under acronym EP to spread propaganda

[tranquil mulch]

And also NGI to help that propaganda to be received /j

[turbid bane]

Huh interesting

[turbid bane]

[tranquil mulch]

also, you know

the entire region is called Five Pebbles

not just the part with the puppet

[quick elk]

Same for Looks To The Moon in MSC

Which also includes LttMs equivalent of The Exterior

[tranquil mulch]

that applies to vanilla as well

you see LTTM when you enter the remnants of her body, not just SL_AI

[gray musk]

Technically the whole map is the facility grounds that belong to the both of them.

[tranquil mulch]

facility grounds is a MSC concept

so not relevant to a #1269808032276152451

[gray musk]

oh. I never realized it's MSC exclusive.

[gray musk]

well, it doesn't stand true in MSC cause Outer Expanse.

[tranquil mulch]

facility in vanilla is used more locally, e.g. This is from one such facility called Side House, which was here on Pebble's grounds.

[gray musk]

Pebble's grounds?

isn't that also technically the whole place, just a different name?

[tranquil mulch]

a literal use, A building or campus specially designed for a specific purpose, such as incarceration, military use, or scientific experimentation.

[crude oxide]

Erratic Pulse is such a cool name, i like it more than Five Pebbles

[turbid bane]

both are cool ngl

what would moon's alt account be called?

idk if she has one or not

[crude oxide]

isn't she referred to as Big Sis Moon in the Local Group?

not really an alt but still different

[turbid bane]

it is BSM yeah

[gray musk]

That make me wonder about other alts. Seven Red Suns? No Significant Harassment?

[glad void]

too much maybe ?

[teal timber]

wasn't sure

[grizzled prism]

a little bit too strong

[grizzled prism]

@glad void appdata/locallow/videocult/rain world/SJ_0 (or _1 or _2 depending on which save file you're using)

this is also where your save files are (sav, sav2 and sav3)

[glad void]

will check that soon

[grizzled prism]

and have some more info

from the one and only wiki moth itself

[glad void]

[atomic locust]

the save is debatably invalid for challenges after the Subterranean Incident

[teal timber]

oh true

[crude oxide]

what incident?

[late copper]

Used dev tools to get out of sub via farms to keep wormithy

[crude oxide]

i see

[latent fractal]

Ah

I remember that

[quick elk]

[teal timber]

yeeeeeeah you can get it in the Hunter's campaign

[grave stag]

I mean they can try :D

[teal timber]

They are quite good at the game

[grave stag]

true

[turbid bane]

[grave stag]

<@&1137895527271379055> spoiler regions #1341815917180489809 message

[late copper]

Is this too much

[grizzled prism]

[crude oxide]

what happened to saint

[grave stag]

I would say bit too much

[grizzled prism]

dealt with

[grizzled prism]

this is just what happens when you think, it is very normal prommy

[crude oxide]

you're so good at finding these, are you always in fp threads?
i hop between different channels so always miss it

[grave stag]

I mean I regularly check threads. depends on the day I may have some thread most likely this one or castrix's open on discord on my second screen while doing something and I notice the changes in little numbers at the playthrough thread folders aka how many unseen stuff and check fi there is something new I haven't seen. if I don't have this open at second screen for some reason I tend to go check if there is new messages in regular intervals. so yeah I am pretty much always online even tho not necessarily on fp threads :D

[crude oxide]

i see

you're doing a very good job

[grave stag]

ty, I am glad I can be of help here

[grave stag]

<@&1137895527271379055> #1341826043631112262 message initial message there is spoilers. my brains are lagging currently too much for me to try to format message telling about that hence ping and link here

[grave token]

Average 5P FP experience

[meager raven]

That's unfortunate development

I also went there in my first campaign (survivor) and almost rege quit there

Those "vines" unstably floating around makes it a lot harder to aim

[grave token]

Too much?

[meager raven]

A lil too much I'd say

[atomic locust]

gotem

@errant herald boo!

(The issue was directly giving information the player didnt have, it is better to kinda lead them towards it so they can learn on their own terms)

[tranquil mulch]

silksong is a specific name, and silk worms is used in general

@teal timber one more for the list

silksong is ineligible ofc, but silk worm is

[teal timber]

hmmmmmmmmmmm. I already have silkworm

[tranquil mulch]

ah!

I was searching for separate words

[teal timber]

I'd say that's close enough to count as a duplicate entry

[turbid bane]

uh oh

[tranquil mulch]

true

[turbid bane]

not pipeyard

[tiny glacier]

Yea

Evil version of the dream

A corrupted vision

[tranquil mulch]

Factual proof that Pipeyard is not real, a dream from outside.

[tiny glacier]

Yes

[turbid bane]

TRUe

[modern harness]

Theyre centipede idea kinda sounds similar to.. aquapede.....

[tiny glacier]

Combined with cyan lizard

[modern harness]

Or we could also say:
Shell-less Red mixed with leapzard

[tiny glacier]

Night Terror centipede from (iirc) the pitch black mod?

[modern harness]

Also true

[shrewd timber]

I am a pipeyard defender till the day I die

It's cool!!!

Minus dump tunnel but still

[silver musk]

And minus pipeyard

[tranquil mulch]

what's pipeyard

[modern harness]

Pipeyard isnt real it cant hurt you

[grave stag]

<@&1137895527271379055> is this spoilers:? #1341991344511385680 message

[grizzled prism]

it's in outskirts and I don't think overseers are a spoiler right

esp since it's the staff icon and name

[grave stag]

I was not sure if overseer name was spoiler or not :D

[teal timber]

Y'know, Castrix has not seen a cyan lizard before, I don't think.

so

that's funny

[silver musk]

Cyantipede

[turbid bane]

the only "cyan" thing cas has seen is either a very cyan blue lizard or a very cyan scav or uh

i cant think of anything else

very cyan blue is possible

[turbid bane]

speaking of dreams cas is having

Enot has heartz

[grave token]

[grizzled prism]

[gray musk]

is overseer a spoiler?

[grizzled prism]

dont think so no

[gray musk]

ok.

[grizzled prism]

Iggy can be found everywhere in Outskirts at the start of the game

[tranquil mulch]

Overseer is literally the first other creature you see

[grizzled prism]

it's not in the genderal spoiler guide

but then literally your icon:

[tender bloom]

Icons, you say?

[grizzled prism]

You're my icon Sprinkles

[crude oxide]

[grizzled prism]

but uh we dont talk about ascended

[tranquil mulch]

Tell every newbie to do pilgrimage on their first playhtrough because of Sprinkles' icon

[grizzled prism]

yes!!!!!!

[crude oxide]

when a new thread is created just send sprinkles' pilgrimage ad

[crude oxide]

mycologist

[teal timber]

Oh Castrix is going to get to learn the overseer lore

[turbid bane]

overseer lore?

do you mind reminding me?

[teal timber]

If you bring an overseer's eye to Looks to the Moon she explains ||how overseers work||.

[turbid bane]

ohh

[quick elk]

If you bring an overseer eye to LttM, she will tell you a bit about the scav-overseer releation

[teal timber]

that too

[turbid bane]

speaking of that

i never actually brought items to lttm...

only pearls

[teal timber]

There's some cool lore you can get from it sometimes

I suggest ||blue Fruit||

[turbid bane]

idk if i wanna grind for all of them though

[turbid bane]

i found out about that one

bug pupae

[tranquil mulch]

overseer eye

but yeah you can just see them at LTTM/Dialogue in wiki

[turbid bane]

aw

[crude oxide]

i can see all pearl readings on the wiki but i want to record them myself someday
that <@&710572930102460486> save file has been untouched for a while and I'll never reset it before bringing porls to moon

[tranquil mulch]

just preferably read the Pearls with MSC enabled to let them be in Collection

MSC,, actually does change Pearl content a bit

with changes to SI pearls and SB_ravine

But it's solely derandomisation of SI pearls and addition of coloured text

[crude oxide]

i see

[teal timber]

Wait, MSC changes SB_ravine?

[tranquil mulch]

yeah by colouring the lines said by iterators in the chatlog

[teal timber]

ah interesante

[tranquil mulch]

A change you'd expect to be Remix

But either way, I saw NSH's green text colour be brought up in #vanilla-lore before in regards to the Green SB Overseer and now I'm fully prepared to <@&1064829582533984337> anyone who repeats it later.

[teal timber]

TBH I think that would be worse

either put it in the base game or put it in MSC

we don't need more arbitrary Remix-based changes

[turbid bane]

are any of these rare?

the middle one looks close to purple and then the far right one looks close to green

and the top one looks close to red

[narrow owl]

Idk, none of them stand out to me

[turbid bane]

for me the top one looks the closest to a rare one

[grizzled prism]

the middle one is def blue, the rightmost one is a cyan stepping into green

oh actually it is just cyan

[turbid bane]

oh

[grizzled prism]

so yea pretty regular mice

[turbid bane]

aw dangit

[grizzled prism]

I use ms paint to check colours

btw

[turbid bane]

ill check them with clip studio rq

[twin ridge]

#1338998057261469786 message FIRST PLAYTHROUGH PILGRIMAGE

[teal timber]

nobody say anything

they're in Subterranean, the game will end soon™️

[grave stag]

pit has claimed another victim #1342233001081311232 message :D

[glad void]

too much maybe

ultro has never said "neuron" so they most likely don't know what the green neuron is called

okay nevermind

[twin ridge]

it has been all of 2 days since i kept up with this forum what happened

[glad void]

[crude oxide]

i like vanilla threads more

[twin ridge]

yea, i've been keeping up with vanilla but i let this one fall to the side for a bit

[glad void]

neglect

i’m only following 8 vanilla threads

art

[lapis talon]

Only 4

6 if you include the MSC threads in following

[glad void]

i have 8 vanilla and 17 msc

[late copper]

DLC content

[glad void]

[errant herald]

i have this on both vanilla and msc

[grave token]

Hey numbers another one for the list

[glad void]

probably TOO DESCRIPTIVE

actually

[grave token]

(Talking about DLL's)

[grave token]

Nah the OP said that

[glad void]

[modern harness]

Dunno what to do for this person ngl

[twin ridge]

Politely tell them they might want to ask about this somewhere else probably? They seem just incredibly clueless lol

[modern harness]

Probably ?

[crude oxide]

how did they even find this server with no knowledge about rain world

[modern harness]

No idea

[twin ridge]

I don't know

[modern harness]

Then joins a random playthrough thread instead of going to offtopic genderal xd

[twin ridge]

And then navigate to a random first playthrough thread as their first option, hea

[late copper]

[crude oxide]

this is too much isn't it? the op just asked if there's another gate

[grizzled prism]

@fiery magnet Just letting you know we try to avoid such direct tips

what a lot of people do is something like if you're still gonna be struggling to find a way here's a bigger hint: ||hint||

also the person specified that they only wanted to know if there is another exit, not where

don't give information the person is not asking for

[grizzled prism]

feel free to ping people here for this reason btw like I jsut did

[crude oxide]

i wasn't sure if i should so i wanted to ask yall first

[grizzled prism]

fair

[grave token]

https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1070077225002602618
NINTY SIX THOUSAND MESSAGES

Oh it's for all first playthroughs

[quick elk]

Yeah old system was really different from current one

Though imo the current one is much better, especially with newer pin policy

[grave token]

What was the old pin policy?

[quick elk]

Since all players share one thread, usually close to nothing was pinned apart from rule stuff

Currently the progress milestones of each player is pinned, along with some other stuff

[grave token]

Ah makes sense, I haven't been around too long so yea I didn't know

I didn't really think that old stuff would be pinned in the first place bc yknow too much message

#1342528361884553336 message
idk what to tell them

[atomic locust]

🙂

[grizzled prism]

the old one was such a mess

I had very mixed feelings about the new one since the old one was the one I was used to n stuff but looking back at it now it was
not great

I mainly remember getting constantly redirected when I played Saint and was very confused and the helpers were very confused too

[quick elk]

The Monk/Survivor/Hunter redirecting system was

Also the Spearmaster one made absolutely no sense

[teal timber]

ooooo one of the actually interesting white pearls

[turbid bane]

shes getting lucky with them too

her first one was a really lucky one too iirc

this one

[teal timber]

true

[teal timber]

this is really interesting actually

since, y'know

[dark tiger]

[grave stag]

:D

[teal timber]

. . . Castrix is teaching me things now.

[late copper]

they eat leeches???

[grave stag]

I can't look at dialogue of castrix's tread as it is spoilers for me :D

[modern harness]

Yea

I sometimes wait for them to eat the leeches in the pool before the LTTM entrance pool so I dont get grabbed lol

[grave stag]

<@&1137895527271379055> #1342576963210055772 message spoilers

[crude oxide]

have you never seen them eat leeches?

[late copper]

never noticed it

[grave stag]

is this too much saint spoiling for first saint playthrough? #1342576963210055772 message

[grizzled prism]

it is but well the ship has sailed

@tulip summit But there's no wall actually about that, please don't spoil people

they can learn on their own

[grave stag]

yeah unfortunately that ship sailed away

[grizzled prism]

[modern harness]

[grave stag]

spoilers: #1342581064954019850 message

ty igna!

[hoary hemlock]

That hurts to see

[grave stag]

tbh the fact wall is gone was biggest surprise me in saint's campaing and most affecting one

[modern harness]

Its one of teh thigs Im most excited about people seeing on my own

[grave stag]

another major thing in saint's cmapaing for me was the depths

[grave stag]

cas just casually figuring out so much of the lore themselves :D

[quick elk]

Cas is basically on the verge of figuring out the entire FPs backstory

[atomic locust]

there is a wall, it is simply somewhere else 🙂

[quick elk]

Also they are going to SI soon, which means there is a chance they will get the "You couldn't interrupt me in the worse moment" pearl which could be pretty fun

[atomic locust]

@quick elk how many days have you had that nick for now

[quick elk]

2 I think

[atomic locust]

smh

[quick elk]

Surely it is tomorrow trust me

[fiery magnet]

oh ok bet thx

[grave token]

But... Deltarune tomorrow, trust

[atomic locust]

I do really want a Q1 release

but q2 seems likely

[tiny glacier]

Deltarunr toyesterday

[atomic locust]

@delicate lance

[delicate lance]

🥹

hello

[tiny glacier]

Hrllo

[quick elk]

What is Q1 and Q2

[atomic locust]

quarters of the year

[glad void]

deltarune is no longre tomorrow

[atomic locust]

Jan-March, Apr-Jun, Jul-Sep, Oct-Dec

[tiny glacier]

That

[delicate lance]

yeaj

Deltarune yesterday

[quick elk]

A new reality breaking glitch was discovered so I changed the name to spread more propaganda

Check out #movement , it's pretty cool

[glad void]

i love #movement

[delicate lance]

not the #movement propaganda

[glad void]

#movement is fun until it gets down to frames

[quick elk]

Also if the tech actually gets developed it would likely need a better name than lizardglitch but so far it is basically deerglitch but with lizards instead of deer

[delicate lance]

it should be something funny

because uhhhhhh

[glad void]

there are probably a lot of lizard glitches

[delicate lance]

because it would be funny

[quick elk]

There is lizard oob, spitboost, lizelevator, and uhhh probably something else idk

And the stuff releated to taming ig

[glad void]

lizelevator sounds very fun

[quick elk]

Lizelevator is a horror beyond our understanding

It just happened like twice with clear end results and absolutely no idea what's have caused it apart from speculation and guessing

[glad void]

the mystery of lizelevator ,,,..

[atomic locust]

I thought it was solved

I remember hearing something about abstractions... dont remember

[quick elk]

Kinda. There is a plausible theory, but not much

It is basically reverse zoomies, if a creature is there 0 times present instead of 2 while having 1 instance loaded in the room, effectively making it not update

The only issue is that it was never done again so unlike even Vulture Warp the theories cannot be confirmed or denied

[grave token]

#movement scares me

Too much movement is in place for rain world, even if jank, still too much

(This is a compliment, RW has an amazing system for movement I just can't figure more than the basic movement out )

[tiny glacier]

The most advanced things I know how to do are whiplashing and being able to go high by bonking into a wall from a slide

[glad void]

the latter is wallpounce i think

[tiny glacier]

Ok

[glad void]

[tiny glacier]

I helped some people in Rain Meadow learn it

[glad void]

i love eslides

learn eslides now

[tiny glacier]

Ok

How do them?

[glad void]

during a slide throw a rock or spear backward i think

[tiny glacier]

Ok

I heard they’re especially fun as Gourmand

[glad void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385548182102212608/895412684516900884/eslide_tutorial_HD_frame_rate.gif

great quality

if you want a better one someone in #movement probably has one

or i can record one .

[grave token]

The most advanced movement I can do is RANDOM wall pounces, and roll pouncing

[glad void]

first time using steam clip feature so !!!

[tiny glacier]

Cool

[glad void]

it's pretty easy to learn (compared to most tech ) and extremely useful and fun

[tiny glacier]

I will attempt

[glad void]

[tiny glacier]

Ok

Sounds great!

[glad void]

movement propaganda SPREAD

[grave token]

Soilers in first message

[modern harness]

The Pilgrimage playtrhough has reached the Depths

[twin ridge]

so how do we explain to them that they missed an important part of the game

[grave token]

We don't

[modern harness]

No idea tbhh

If theyre planning a Hunter run, or even going to dlc after this, theyre gonna be for a heck of a time

[twin ridge]

yea XD

[modern harness]

Considering that EVERY SINGLE dlc campaign requires meeting FP, theyre gonna be pretty lost until they finally stumble upon him

Well, except for Saint ig, but Saint's last so it doesnt count

[quick elk]

Maybe "if curious, there is a lot more things to find and explore" with possibly a minor hint added if needed?

[glad void]

i hope nobody assumes that they’ve met fp and soils something

[modern harness]

Thats probably the best option

[twin ridge]

riv doesn't need you to meet 5P
just good luck figuring it out without him

[modern harness]

Just tell them to go back in or even do a Monk run so they can find FP

[modern harness]

Also true
You do need to go into his structure tho

[quick elk]

Technically you can just ascend as everyone

[glad void]

[quick elk]

Except Saint if you count them

[modern harness]

Yeah.......

[twin ridge]

it truly would be tragic to go through the entire game missing the entire story as you ascend every slugcat

[modern harness]

Ascending as Arti is actually different than jus "meet every echo and get to the sea"

[glad void]

oh fun

[modern harness]

Altho at its basist explanation yea

[modern harness]

Yea

[glad void]

they guessed the name of the guardians

[modern harness]

Its in the acheive description