#Ackerson Family

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Monk is in the back line being a medic

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But yeah...Private Ruffles charging along

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Wait if I ask, where the hell is the cook?

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Where's Gourmand Ramsay

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One, that's funny so nice

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Two, the plan is he's Martin's uncle and leader of the tribe

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Martin stayed in civilization because he had a passion for medicine, the tribe moves on, "Susanna"/Survivor stays behind to wait for her brother to come home after he gets drafted

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Whoa, lore

slim glade
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That's the plan anyway

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Martin willingly left the tribe (with their blessing) to learn medicine and visited them whenever they stopped by Canal Bay to trade. Susanna then learns he got drafted and decides to wait for his return

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Obviously he does and he ends up opening a clinic in the frontier regions of Canal Bay in the Rainlands

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At least Martin living his life now

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Ryan meanwhile moves with Sev to the Misty Isle to get a fresh start for them both and he ends up becoming a boat mechanic

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And there is multiple reasons why they chose the Misty Isle

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For Ryan it was because he was so disillusioned with the Yorkshire Federation for using him and his comrades as cannon fodder (plus just everyone viewing him as a hero). For Sev, it was to get away from the Rainlands and put her past behind her

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That isn't to say Seven was a heartless monster, but she really embraced the black ops soldier vibe

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And when you're about to have a kid and you actually want to have said kid even if it was unplanned...time to put the black operations to the side

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(Also, it should say something when a foreign nation treats the Colonial Brigade better than its own superior officer does)

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(That isn't to say every colonial unit suffered but when you voluntarily enlist and then your officer throws you into the line of fire without support or real reason because "they're just colonials" and the general staff just shrug their shoulders...)

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Well, I mean, native levies were meant for the slaughter
-some general

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Basically...yeah...

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They get nabbed by a different nation, the Faarhi Republic

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(Faarhi being the mice species in Wargroove 2. Charlie's roommate is one if you recall)

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Hex?

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Now the Republic has its own dirty laundry and skeletons in its basement closet

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My boy slugcheese

slim glade
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But the general there actually gives a damn about them as if they were his own men

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(Side note but Rhomb is by far my favorite commander to play in Wargroove 2)

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slim glade
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And while it is true units get sacrificed to win wars, there's a difference between making a hard call and just throwing a unit into the grinder because it's expendable or a "meat shield"

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me looking at the slave rats

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Yeah, making... Hard calls...

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During the Evacutation of Dunkirk, Churchill ordered a suicide attack on the advancing Whermacht. 3000 in exchange to buy time for the evacuation of 10000

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They all knew it was suicide and yet it bought time to save the British Expeditionary Force

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When they cracked the Enigma, they had to choose who would live and who would die to ensure the code stayed cracked. In doing so, an estimated 100K were saved

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Those are indeed hard calls

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To save many, sacrifice few

slim glade
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Basically yeah

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Rhomb would make calls like that and even go along with more questionable stuff, but he didn't throw Ruffles into the meat grinder because he was another body

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Or as the Federation put it, a "colonial"

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Ryan "Ruffles" Ackerson survived through the war

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As Six put it, the conflict was nasty and even the "good guys" crossed lines

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Sometimes the chaos could cloud the rules

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Such as baiting the medics by purposely disable a soldier

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In Wargroove 2, Rhomb actually was sent to dig up ancient advanced tech. The problem? He trampled through a sovereign nation to do so, claimed his army was more "qualified" to handle the tech, and kept to himself when a subordinate crossed other lines. He eventually does call it off, sick and tired of "justifying the means" but he's not entirely innocent either. He just tried to do it cleaner

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Once it became evident that he was an invading force with bogus pretense and was destroying everything around him for nothing, he called it quits. Too bad the damage was done and it would get worse...

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My version of him actually does have some more validations to be waging war, but he still follows the will of the Republic as ordered. Even so, he prefers to do it his way and with as little collateral as possible. But when your nation wants results and damn the consequences...

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slim glade
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Well, it's easy to see he has to cross some lines that sour his reputation. Still, he is a good officer and an even better man

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As for the individual in the game who went off to do her own thing...that would be Pistil

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A self-centered, inferiority complex driven, immoral mad scientist

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If Rhomb was following orders, Pistil followed her own rules all for the sake of knowledge

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Everyone and everything was either a useful tool to obtain that knowledge or an obstacle.

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Damn

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The soldiers under her command, the locals defending their homes, Rhomb...all can burn in hell to prove she is brilliant

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For real, she drugs Rhomb after he says to pack it up and leave and lies about orders. Then when he is captured and threatened with execution her reaction is "Go ahead then, I dont care about him. Just get out of my way"

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So...she's going to be fun to write into the setting

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You should see Blutwurst from Fuga...

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Ho boy... His own character designer doesn't have any sympathy for him

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Despicable character, his own troops hate him, and by far thr most aggravating fight in the game

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Gonna watch it if the wifi comes back on saintunyoy

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Some spoilers for what I have planned but the reason why Hex went to Prairie for college was because of the fiasco the Republic was involved with during the war and Pistil was in dead center of it. Rhomb, for his part, was not really responsible and he actually was more in favor of ending the conflict

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And then we get one of the three protagonists for what I have planned, Lytra

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Despite being a private to lance corporal, she gets wrapped up in a lot of this BS

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Ends up meeting a most peculiar tank crew controlling a super weapon and a pair of Slugcat operatives

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No one can catch a break for this, cap? hunterglee

slim glade
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The funny thing about Lytra is that she was a massive assistance to Pistil and Rhomb both and went along due to being recognized as someone useful. But she really wasn't interested in following orders because "orders are orders" or "knowledge at any cost"

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Rhomb at least knew he was doing wrong and admitted his mistakes along with her. Pistil just kept going until the very end and just wen "damn it, I was so close before these idiots ruined everything"

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Her shtick is to stop being a doormat, stand up for herself, and take a stand against what's wrong

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So that's one character in a nutshell

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Hannibal is someone who makes the best use of his time while he still has it and learning what it really means to live. He has chosen his life, but really he's searching for something beyond purpose and a real reason to "live"

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And then we get Malt...

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Well until I play Fuga 3, current idea is growing up, learning to say goodbye, and that if he really cares about those around him he has to value himself as well

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(As for why that's a bit harsh, he's 12 in the first game and I'm making him an oridnary kid who means well but is a bigger emotional bomb than Charlie all while not being a super soldier)

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(At the least, he may be a farm boy but he has no interest in adventure... Too bad he's the protagonist of a JRPG)

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Jrpg needs that exploration

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So yeah, the three main characters

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A farm boy who quickly becomes the most important chess piece on the board while struggling with growing up, an operative living on borrowed time looking to make his last moments matter, and a soldier looking to stand up for herself after being put down her entire life while doing what's right

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As for how Ryan fits into that, he actually gets attached to Lytra's squad and then she brings the BS to him

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Still has his coffee though...

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[praise be]

slim glade
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Until then, I have Saints to write, Harmonic Symphony to finish, Fuga 3 to come out and then play it

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Alongside whatever other fluff I decide to write for the Ackersons after the conflict

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Alright cap, gotta go

slim glade
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Have a good night

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Battery's running low and midnight closing in

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Good morning to all

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Hey Fred...a bit of an idea that is for a future story but I think you'd like it.

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Remember how Three has Akari? I'm thinking of a scene where she's older (young adult) and they're playing guitars together. I know I emphasize Three playing the violin but that's more of his favorite instrument and he has a wide range of skills.

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This would a be closure story for the Ackerson Family series so the entire family, even with extensions, would have a dinner party at a restaurant/bar for a family reunion.

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But...I'm imagining just those two together would be a nice image

quasi blaze
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Sounds great I like it

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I do wonder tho will Suns be there?

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||Him and Sig||

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Not sure how much you wanted to know

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||They would show up the following morning as the Ackersons have breakfast. Figured it would be a very good way to close the series. Charlie has kids, Kelly has decent work signed up, Ryan and Sev are happy grandparents, and the former Iterators get to meet the family they were always detached from||

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||Also in a different scene One would still be kicking everyone's ass at boardgames despite being in her sixties||

quasi blaze
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Ooohhh interesting

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I can't wait and at the same time I want to wait for as long as possible

slim glade
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But yeah, kinda figure Akari inherited Three's passion for music only she favors the guitar. That and she effectively works for a space program because why not?

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Granted, Alcenta wouldn't be all rainbows and sunshine at this point. It's still a world recovering from the massive conflict and dealing with decolonization, politics, and the shock of basically pulp magazines and mythology coming to life. But for the entire extended family? It's perfect. Things are looking up all around, it's mostly peaceful, they can actually get together for a grand reunion...what more could they ask for?

quasi blaze
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Anyways I really need to go to sleep now

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bye

slim glade
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Ah, well that's important

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Toodles

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Okay, still working on the chapter and will need to edit but I just wrote something that I feel like sharing right now:

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Abyss got up and turned to face Sliver, “Of course, in the end it’s still your decision. I am fascinated as to what you will do but this is a choice only you can make. Do you choose to live like this-” he waved around him at the market again in a spin before snapping his fingers, “-or this?” they were back in her puppet chamber.
Sliver quickly examined her surroundings and realized that her puppet had been sitting on the floor of the chamber for the past several minutes. Everything was working optimally and she obviously had stayed perfectly still. But those images she saw, the sounds, the smells… She could recall them perfectly…
“You have an impactful choice to make. Continue as you are now as Sliver of Straw, Iterator and chief medical officer of the Mountain Lake sector and goddess of Shi Chara…” he snapped his fingers again and brought the body before her puppet, “Or chose to begin anew and become Sliver the Saint, a new person with a new life ahead of her.”
“I… I can’t make that choice Abyss,” Sliver cried quietly.
“Yes you can. Whether you cross the Rubicon or stay here is up to you, Sliver. Just promise me one simple thing,” both his aberration and the body began to fade away, “Whatever choice you decide, make sure it is the best for you. Not mine, not Pinnacle’s, not anyone’s but Sliver’s,” his voice became a distant whisper, “Goodbye and may your choice be the one that brings you peace.”

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Only the strongest will to make those kind of choice
But sometimes being an immortal sucks

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Hey Captain I wanted to ask this question for quite some time but kept forgetting how does Nimol's armor look like and what parts of his body does it cover?

slim glade
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Sorry for not noticing this sooner. The armor would be full body, padded for warmth as well as protection, definitely high quality compared to your average soldier, and a bit regal but more practical than flashy. As for specific esthetics...uh...Medieval or Rennaisance South East Asian?

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Obviously, it wouldn't be Medeival English armor but I really can't get more specific than what I've provided

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But please, don't make it the fantasy armor that is overly flashy, barely covers the vitals, and is meant to look "cool"

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(It says something when a lot of nameless stock RPG guards wear armor that looks practical while the protagonists are wearing Halloween costumes...)

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Yay

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To be clear, goofy RGP armor is fine in an RPG. But sometimes you just have to wonder "why?"

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Or you just look at characters on the screen wearing a bathing suite, no helmet, charge towards machine guns, and just survive no problem. Video game is gonna video game but seriously? Someone explain that shit

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At least lizards have the excuse of thick heads, centipedes just are built tough, and the Chieftan actually wears armor

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silk hard as steel and they were known to have great reactions to dodge bullets

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But tbh, idk what medieval SEA armor looks like but I can assure that they are not made of steel or iron for they were wearing cloth (in my own research)

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Well, Wikipedia states the Khemr wore absolutely nothing into battle and lacked any form of tactics or strategy

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I guess going a tad west to Bangladesh and India will help in regards to armor

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Not the same exact region I know, but this may be a case of "close enough" to validate it

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(Maybe Nepal also for the mountainous terrain)

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Like Angor Wat, right

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I know computer games are not the best source of information but it would be so nice if we get out of Europe a bit more

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I mean, how prevalent is the knight in armor on a horse with a lance and a sword?

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(Also, knights historically were assholes.)

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The chivalry dead

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Though funny thing... something I thought was the coolest idea ever came from Lego Knights

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They shot lighting out of their swords

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So...magical knights with super powers and now their swords had extra power but shooting flipping lightning beams

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Yes please

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But now, I crave for Norwegian warriors slugcheese

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Scandinavians if you will

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Vikings?

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Yes, nordic norsemen of the north

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Well, they didn't really have the horned helmets

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But give a few centuries until the Thirty Years War the Swedes went on a tear briefly

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And then we get Sabaton's "Gott mit uns"

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Well speaking of different nations

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Since I do plan for the other sectors to make an appearance, thoughts about the River Sector quick?

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They border Aljeandro who is going to be essentially the Latin America stand in

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So...maybe Brazil or another Latin/South American country?

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Idk much of the geography of Latin America

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But maybe either Peru or Chile
Maybe Ecuador or Bolivia

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Hmm, I guess

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Wait...

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Chile and Argentina are literally the Andes Mountains

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Well, that handles the River Valley

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Now for the multi-limb filled Northeast Estuary...

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Hmm...

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The region where the locals have an extra pair of arms and get invaded by the Bermans

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I'm thinking Greece

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Greece did take some nasty hits during WWII, it's close to the Middle East which would work well with the Faarhi Republic being Arabic

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So yeah...a scene where Sliver meets an Argentinian/Chilean and Greek merchant while exploring her city as Saint

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Gonna do more research

slim glade
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Greece is easy to understand, it's Greece. Complete with the pantheon, Olympics, and arguably some of the most essential building blocks of Western civilization as a whole

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The Andes countries would be the Inca

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So I guess in my setting instead of the Conquestadors justing mining a mountain of silver, they're friendly neighbors

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With said Conquestadors having Mechanoids in their service while the Inca have biological super calculators

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Also...yes Spain actually did mine a whole mountain of silver historically. It broke their economy due to bad taxes and then all the silver went to China somehow

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That too

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But the silver was what broke them

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You think today's inflation is bad? HA

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They go from the wealthiest empire in all of Europe, a head start in the New World, and ready to cement their place on the world stage only to loose it all because their economy couldn't adjust to the sheer influx of silver

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In terms of the relationship in my setting, it's a bit complicated

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Alejandro is stupid old

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Not as much as the Iterators, but goes from being a faceless guard to the only guy left in his base and changed into a Sanguophage

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The River Valley Iterators alongside a Mechanoid are his oldest friends because they are literally the only ones left who know him

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Not as the local overlord of the region, not as a folktale legend, not as a relic of the distant past, him

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So, putting aside the fact he lives as a mountain hermit with Mechanoids primarily as company, he supplies the Iterators with bionics and mechanical components in exchange for artifical Hemogen so he doesn't need to..."eat" people

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Now he does play by his own rules when it comes to intervention, looking after the local civilization, and influencing politics. But he is tied very close to the River Valley as a legitimate friend and ally

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This extends to the respective civilizations. After all the local "gods" are on such good terms and while a trip across the mountains is difficult, having a good trade and military partner nearby is a force multiplier in terms of power and influence

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And does he help the River Valley Sector

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Yup, and vice versa

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He does take a much more direct approach with his territory than the Iterators though. Everyone there knows about him due to the fact he makes a physical appearance (disguised in armor) from time to time and his Mechanoids are everywhere withing range of his network

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So, it wouldn't be too surprising for a Bronze Age farmer all the way to an Industrial Revolution one to be working aside a space robot because that's how it goes there

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As for the Northeast Estuary, before they got conquered you could call them a merchant republic honestly

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So yes, them just showing up at the far ends of wherever is their deal. The exotic merchants with their equally exotic goods

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I would say they've been having border skirmishes for decades by the time the main story kicks off. The Bermans would be unable to push due to the terrain hampering their armor and aircraft being too valuable to spare for a colonial matter. The locals can't make the grand push due to sheer overwhelming firepower from the fleets of gun boats and offshore frigates.

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The Iteratoes would be hesitant to get fully involved with their advanced weapons because what if these expansionist, xenophobic, superiority complex driven megalomaniacs get their hands on a small rarefaction cell battery???

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Better to play cloak and dagger and lock the facilities down then take that risk

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Once the fighting kicks off, the pretense of cold war is over. Time to settle the score once and for all

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Power a tank, factory, or say a pulse weapon

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And better yet could make something that could rival any warmachines

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Everyone knows the defenses have some way of firing something despite no obvious projectile (also...Mechlord Vampire deploying his own machines on occasion)

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It's really a 1930's pulp fiction world

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Thr technology can be close to what we know historically but then you get the random machine with laser, biological monster from the jungle, mad scientist invents remote control drones, stuff like that

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So...what happens when the pulp goes from the distant frontier campfire stories and half-truth warnings to front and center of a world war?

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Dunno

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Think of it along the lines of an Indianna Jones movie or Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (another good movie)

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Only it has escalated

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The ancient stuff is known about and could be a game changer. But for who and how one controls the powers of the old world is up for grabs

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The Rainlands Ancients built lifeforms from nothing. The armies to their north had advanced infantry, armor, and biological weapons. Bronxon bridged the gap of machines and super soldiers

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The modern Alcenta was built on the asheses of a bloody global war that epitomozed the concept of MAD...and that tech has been sitting around ever since

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Now with the advent of mechanized warfare what was once myth is now fact, magic is science, divine is mortal

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Some don't really care and want to focus on the things of today such as social programs, scientific studies, tax reforms, and concerns over ideology

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Others however want to figure out what the past had to offer and what it could mean for the future. Maybe for scientific curiosity, maybe for supremacy. But either way, it can make sense now and if you can figure out how something ticks...

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Basically

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And then a bunch of farm kids find the convenient super tank in the woods

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For someone like Ryan it quickly escalates

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Yeah, he grew up seeing Iterators in the distance his entire life and hearing rumors about purposed organisms

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But he behaved himself, the boxes in the sky were background scenery, and the activity of purposed organisms was the occasional crazy story in the newspaper

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Now...that crazy story is a part of the war and unlike some random monster out in the wilds or sudden downfall of a mobster, the weapons are aimed at him and bring used beside him

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The purposed organism did some crazy work indeed

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They are effectively the men in black in modern times

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The spies, the influences, the hired guns with a secret agenda, the "them", the "they", the secret organization that you know about but you don't "KNOW" about

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The Rainlands is used to that

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Some random citizen: Hey I think I-
A purposed organism in a black suit and tie: flashed them with a neuron eraser
Random citizen: Who am I?

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So when it comes out of the dark because the secrets are out...things kinda have gone sideways

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Gotta put them in the shadow to protect the outside

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Basically

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Really, a comparison would be the SCP Foundation just as more of an open secret

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Bronxon dismisses this but foes acknowledge "something" is going on. The Megatherium nations know about the Mechlord Vampire but can't really do much to explain such a secretive individual in one small country. The Rainlands are used to such a blatant open secret

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Also to be clear, Sev is carrying secrets with her and she's not talking Ryan or the kids any of them

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She knows things that can ruin nations, shatter the understanding of the world, she's personally met and talked to AV at his physical site

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What's in her memory actually is far more dangerous than her use of her quills. She knows this, Ryan knows this, the kids have an idea about it

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Better leave it alone for everyone's sake

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Yep

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And other super AIs like him

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She respects their power, but she doesn't see them as "gods"

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I kinda mention this in her chapter for By the Numbers

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Powerful beings that didn't call themselves gods are rather dangerous

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No ego

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So yes, she has personally met and talked to the Archotechs who admin Alcenta. She's impressed but she's not fooled

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Afterall, she is built to fight against so called "demons" and "gods" whether they be machines, rampant war factories, or just really aggressive lizards

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Her father is a so-called "god"

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She's seen and done a lot, religion to her personally is a load of nonsense

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That being said, she actually encourages others to hold their beliefs because it matters to them

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And Hannibal of all people actually had his own beleifs

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He was very pragmatic and has studied religions and philosophies. He views the world scientifically bit there's always that one inexplicable thing that just...defies everything

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On one hand, it could be the Archotechs taking special notice of someone and briefly playing favorites

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But he's also met them and knows they don't work like that

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So...a miracle happens, something impossible happens, just something that science can't explain

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He doesn't know what it is and is going to be a professional skeptic but maybe, just maybe, there really is something

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The world is a mysterious place

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Sev just shrugs her shoulders and goes "And? It's just a random fluke"

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Hannibal looks at it and questions "Is...this proof?"

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So yeah. An artificial super soldier aware of science and technology who should have no faith in religion actually questions if there is something. He won't pick one out of the hundreds out there but... What fate?

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What fate a slugcat

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Indeed

quasi blaze
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I am finally almost done with the drawing

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Hey Fred

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Hoorah Fred

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Hi guys

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So...how much of the past few hours have you been casually looking at?

quasi blaze
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Uhhh like 1 or 2 hours I'd say

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And midnight already occured (gonna sleep soon but gonna listen some music for some oneshot again)

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Good morning to all

quasi blaze
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Now I can finally rest and focus on writing instead

slim glade
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This is great!

quasi blaze
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Thanks

slim glade
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Just finished my first draft BTW, will probably spend a week editing

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A full week of rest for me then

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'Ello. So plan for proper upload is the weekend

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Though now that that's coming to a close soon, still need to figure out the exacts for the body Sliver will inhabit

quasi blaze
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I'm thinking Sliver changes her name to "Silver" considering she would be living in Shi Chara after uploading herself into the Saint body

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Would look rather funny that a new stranger bearing the former goddess' name just appears

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Especially when said goddess has ascended due to being pleased with her work done on the city

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Now that I think about it, what would be better? Giving details about the Saint body before or after Sliver uploads herself?

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I think before would be appropriate

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How about you, Fred?

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Oh yeah, cap, you do play Total War Napoleonic, correct?

slim glade
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Base but yeah

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No mods

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Can you criticize the battle I wrote?

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It's for the nonrw oneshot

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I'll give it a shot

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(Still annoyed at Napoleon for not using fire by rank tactic like in Empire)

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Liamson looked at the sight of flooding beasts, he pulled out his sabre and yelled. “Line infantry! Form three lines!”

Quickly, his men formed up in three lines with their muskets at the ready. The battle began, and the sounds of men were slaughtered by the huge beasts. Liamson witnessed it from afar as the Kinnerians tore a path for them for the slaughter.

“First line, volley.” He shouted with authority as his men listened. “Prepare.” He looked down as his men were getting annihilated.

He raised his sabre high then slashed downwards. “Fire!” Shots fired and a cloud of smoke came out, and some beasts fell from afar. “Second line, fire!” Another line of shots. “Third line, fire!” Clouds began to cover them up as they kept firing.

slim glade
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Seems good. Not familiar with the exact commands of the time period in regards to rank and file but this seems decent

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If you want, maybe add a fifer and a drummer. Those were actually exceedingly important during the era. Drums for marching and rhythm, fife for piercing through the noise

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spearwrite I see

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Line battles were fought simply because scattered units were impossible to control and coordinate

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Muskets were also inaccurate so it was just easier and simpler to do rank and file. It led to horrendous casualties, but any other way would have been disorganized due to the nature of the battles

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There are plenty of videos on YouTube explaining line warfare

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Back to the fife quick

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If you've ever heard a piccolo before, you'd know those things are LOUD and piercing

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Yeah

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Yeah, I do see it but never heard of it

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Given that you would be lucky to hear the guy next to you when hundreds of muskets are going off around you, it was one of the only instruments that could get through the chaos.

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What about the drums?

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Those would be marching tempo and possibly a means of timing volleys

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Also, keep in mind bayonets

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Ignoring sword verses spike for the moment, you could have the more modern socket bayonet or go older with a plug bayonet

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Sockets are still used today. Just slide and lock on

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Plugs were the first though. Basically, take a dagger and shove into the barrel. You loose the ability to shoot but you get a good spear in return

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Are the plugs looked like pole spear?

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I think? Haven't really seen pcitures

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But you really do plug the entire gun

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Taking it out would require time and effort between battles

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Welp, going back socket i guess

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Which is more modern

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If we're talking early, and I mean right after match or wheellock muskets early, flintlocks I'd say the socket hasn't been invented quite yet. If it's later on and professional large standing armies, the socket more likely would be invented

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If we're going so far as the pike and shot, some armor and maybe a short sword

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I do put pikemen on the flanks

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This is historical stuff so feel free to bend the rules if you want. Maybe you have guys in armor but with modern muskets and socket bayonets

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Anyway cap gonna sleep

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If we're talking Napoleonic however, pikes were out by nearly a century. Maybe anti-cavalry spike traps but the socket bayonet allowed a musketeer to double as rifleman and pikeman

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Pike and shot then

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I see

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Though various firing methods would be experimented

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By rank, certain groups within the rank and thus "platoon firing," or maybe just independent firing at will

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Anyway cap, good luck on the fic

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Coffee energy wasted already

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That's a bit rarer in media but there is at least a video out there

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Since you mentioned Warhammer Total War, the Empire would be your best bet to experiment and see how it works in action. If you have Medieval 2, that would be more historically accurate (no griffins and magical mcguffins)

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Okay

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Body has actual descriptions now. Mental image I have is basically a silver sea otter if said otter were a Slugcat. The fur is thick but fine and general shape is both elegant but physically fit

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Only real exceptions are the left arm which is a bionic that stands out even if it fits well and...the internal anatomy is flooded with bionic implants

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Like, everything has implants and nearly the entire nervous system has been replaced to accommodate this (brain was left alone)

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Would be a physicians worst nightmare to deal with really

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The wifi is back on

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hunterbarrage Research bonanza

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Internet: Online
Research mode: Activated

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So cap, is it the everyday life of Khmer?

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That's the idea for later chapters. Though, it's focused on the city

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Right now it's editing Sliver having a mid-life crisis

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I see

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I can take rest slugcheese

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Anyway, how goes the 13th Century warfare?

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I've finished it monkbigeyes

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Or 17th Century?

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Gonna have a proofread but wanna read it anyway?

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Sure

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Definitely shows overconfidence getting the better of someone

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And has potential to be expanded upon

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As I saw something in Armello before
"Overconfidence is an insidious killer"

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That's actually Darkest Dungeon but sure

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Also, yeah close quarters fighting against rifles tends to get messy

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Gonna put a wringer against these colonials monkbigeyes

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Bayonets did and still do make good close quarters weapons

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But even in WWII with the Banzai charges, get in close enough and a sword will hack a rifle apart

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But sadly they were too late slugcheese

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They are in the ground and will kill slugcheese

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Since mentioning Total War, Fall of the Samarai is an excellent case example of how numbers and close quarters can beat massed firepower

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I've seen a shogitai at work slugempty

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Early game you will lack artillery, proper massed infantry, and experience

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Especially as the Imperial forces

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Shogitai however will lag behind if they fail to adapt simply because of thr tech race

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Tech is everything

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I see it now

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The second tier of artillery, Parrot Guns, are brutally effective. On standard unit size settings, four guns per unit, each loaded with HE or shrapnel, cover about 40% of the map, and are really howitzer and thus can arc their shots

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No joke, a single unit of those can comfortably shell an opposing force and rack up over 500 casualties

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That being said, a single unit of Katanna infantry will eat line infantry if they get close enough

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Now the fic was out of my system

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Time for the duo's misadventures

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Main advantage to guns is that it's easier to train and replace. It doesn't take much to train a rifleman. A swordmaster on the other hand takes a lifetime of dedicated training and skill

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Also, guns are simpler to make in mass

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It's just an equivalent of farmers learned to use a crossbows against heavy armoured knights

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Which did happen

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The issues with such early weapons was reload speed and penetrative power in many cases

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Technology > Skills

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Yes, muskets could punch through armor but they were finicky weapons

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But once a man could fire off three rounds per minute reliably...it took off from there

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And then brass cartridge rounds? Yeah it was over

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By that point, stopping power itself was the issue as opposed to volume of fire

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Anyway, enough about that

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What are the idiot and his reluctant partner up to next?

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After going through that pipe

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Familiar lands (which we the players knew) they will encounter

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Especially I'm gonna put that small rotund scug

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Which is gonna be harder than I thought since I barely know the structure of that region slugempty

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Outer Expanse?

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Indeed, I barely know the structure
(I've only played gourmand to get there, now currently doing it again as surv and monk)

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Yeah I need to explore the place myself more

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Same with Pipeyard and Sky Islands really...

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Sky Islands are my homies now (but I hate that one gap)

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Though I will admit, I still hate Shaded

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Just can't see where the bleep I'm going

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Ori and the Will of the Wisps at least guides you and you get the power to repel the darkness

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The only thing I like about that region is when you get neuron glow

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Iggy just doesn't do his job as a GPS right

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Though I didn't find FP to be too bad. Then again...main reason I died so much in Unfortunate Development was because of collectibles

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I didn't take the long way

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Actually, Pebbles why do you have so many spears and random rocks floating in you?

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SM placed them? hunterthinking
Out of spite, I think

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Maybe Moon's collapse did something and he sucked up all the garbage with the water

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Excessive garbage got sucked up

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Maybe

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Anyway, thoughts about the Saint body Sliver will inhabit?

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Based on my descriptions

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Biomechanical

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She basically pulled a Rimworld body modder

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Add so many bionics that it was just easier and safer to replace the nervous system

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Unless someone does an autopsy, the only thing that will standout is the arm

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A mechanical arm, doctor slugcheese

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One that can do the Iterator laser thing she does in challenge 70

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But that's only one trick up her sleeve

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She basically has XCOM 2 psy powers as well

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Good thing only the laser is intact and not the bullet hell madness

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That and like every organ and bone is modified

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Better than most

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She's still flesh and blood for the most part

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But she threw the entire kitchen in here, not just the sink

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No one has done this before so best not to take chances

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Ignoring cosmetics, she ensured every advantage of every possible role was considered. Stamina, immune system, healing rate, intelligence, strength, everything

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Tbh, you're going into a new mortal body
And living new could lead to something dangerous

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Basically

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That being said, AV gives her roughly eighty years in this life at the best. Factoring in the current medicine, food, disease, and living conditions

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She throws herself at a bunch of red lizards...well we have a pretty good idea how well that could end up

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Speaking of the saint bloodline, don't tell me there's a guy falling for her?
(And the current saint who loves to play a piano)

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Right now, she just uploaded herself and left a broadcast

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The pianist is centuries later

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She will have someone, but not right out of the gate

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hides an oc which has serious issues about being possessiveness of one character

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Anyway man, gonna sleep

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Night to all

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Good night

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So I know Elton John won out for pianist

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But I just listened to the Kayava remix in the music video I was talking about... Why do I get the impression the pianist would play that for an audition???

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Time to work on this

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Speaking of Elton John...the only two songs that are coming to mind for me to use are either Rocket Man or Crocodile Rock...

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Personally, I'm more familiar with Billy Joel and leaning heavily to his latest Turn the Lights Back On

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(Worried about a chapter probably months later, still haven't posted first chapter)

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Alright, I know this is like off topic but what do you think guys?

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Another idea but from another fic slugpensive

So, I did tell everyone about a swashbuckling fic and managed to put the characters in their roles, so I'm gonna type it in here

Monk and Survivor are the two orphans (I'm not sorry) being taken in by a crew of misfits

Rivulet, the energetic (as always) scout that looks out for everyone in her little crow's nest

Hunter, a rising fighter in the crew which he joined in with Gourmand

Gourmand, a captain yet a quartermaster in the deck, an uncle to Hunter

Spearmaster, a noble that somehow ends up in their ship

Artificer, the wreaking vengeance and the best fighter around, teaching hunter the ways

Saint, a pacifist yet a mysterious figure in the crew

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Sounds like a western fic that I've seen (really wish it would receive more updates). Has potential

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Also tangent but first chapter should be up tomorrow (my time)

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So let's see how my take on an Iterator centered chapter will pan out

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Rimworld news: Randy keeps giving my rainforest colony heatwaves and the lizards nearby seem to be hungry for one of my colonists... I will turn you stinkers into Slugcat beds

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Too bad rimworld is no more here

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I had to delete it since my sister was angry about many things in her laptop slugpensive

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Not enough memory space?

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The laptop been lagging lately

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And blue screens were definitely imminent slugempty

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Oof yeah, understandable

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But I had a good thing going back there

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Definitely my colonists are starving since I somehow fk up the crops

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Rice grows the shortest amount of time (though my arid plains colony begs to differ...stupid rhinos eating my entire crop yield before it's even grown)

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Also, there's a mod with probably more questionable genetic manipulation than Rain World...

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Take chicken plus muffalo

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Muffalo = cow and buffalo at the same time

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You can get an animal that you can milk and collect eggs from

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At the same time...

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EXCUSE ME WHAT?!

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Out of everything, even mixing a Thrumbo with a rat or a wolf with a beaver (or a velociraptor), the chicken/cow hybrid got me the worst

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Anyway... I know Rain World has the Incandescent mod and a "dragon" mod

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Think anyone has made an actual dragon Slugcat though?

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Might be time to fix that

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(I mean, there are official fire breathers and an acid breath gene in Rimworld...)

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Fire/Acid breathing Slugcats and Scavengers...WHERE'S YOUR GOD NOW?

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Artificer would willingly take the genetic modifications

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Just hit post. May need extra time for Ao3 to process. When it hits the actual Rain World page, I'll add a proper link

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So uh...may not see it until the morning for you guys. I can understand it's late and I'm going to insist you get sleep over reading fanfiction

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Time to read

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Actually is in. Still, if it's too late then get some sleep

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It hits the midnight after the comment, great work cap saintunyoy

But tomorrow (that's now I think?) there will be no internet as there will be blackout

And now, take thine rest [and maybe a coffee or listening to music] as you have finished your first chapter slugtoast

Now, I'm going to sleep after a long day of doing writing (and mostly doing MOBAs and expedition missions)

Morning to all slugwave

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And done

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OK so here is my 'as unbiased as I could get' thoughts about the first chapter of Sliver of Saints
As I have said in the comments the first chapter isn't the most interesting thing i have read in my opinion but it does kinda make sense since the main topic of the chapter is Sliver being a purposeless purposed organism which means not much is going on also I feel like Slivers purposed organisms didn't get enough attention I barely know what their personality are like on a surface level tho maybe you did this on purpose so that you could go all in on their personalities in the next chapter or maybe not
Overall I'd say the chapter is alright not bad but not that good either

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Considering this is the first time I wrote an Iterator focused chapter where the Iterator is the main focus, I'd say I did well. Was actually challenging because how do you really write a perspective from super computer character?

quasi blaze
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Yay

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Also Fred, you now have a very good description to work with what Sliver Saint looks like

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Now, time to plop her into effectively 1500's Khmer Venice and figure out a chapter for that (that's a sentence and a half...)

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I will wait for you to start working on the second chapter before starting to draw my drawing

slim glade
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Yeah figured

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So that you could suggest me a scene that I could draw

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I'll get started first

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Though, I think the placement of the picture worked out nicely within the chapter

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Yep

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I wonder what people will think about the pictures

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Also...thoughts about AV?

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Didn't go the way I initially thought, but I guess I showed him as an all powerful entity

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I like him he is very silly

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He uses his God powers to troll godlike beings

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Anyways I need to sleep now bye

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Turns out, there's no blackout and I'm kinda fooling myself slugpensive

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Also speaking of new chapter in immediate future, Anton I may be making Apex a tad bit smarter and LE less apathetic than your cannon in the next chapter. I'll run it by ya when I write a scene

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Go for it, man saintunyoy

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I just see him as Forrest Gump...but even duller?

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So not a butter knife but a spoon

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I mean, I can see him actually being very good at doing his assignments and having a very good success rating

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Come to think of it, it would be funny

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The problem is that he often is doing thr job inefficiently, recklessly, or in an asinine way that shouldn't work but does

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Like...storing a hazardous biological sample in a secondary stomach and getting sick instead of securing it in a proper container

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Speaking of Artificer's ancestry, what if her ancestors were my so-called "dragon Slugcats"?

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Instead of breathing fire or explosives, it just got diluted over centuries. Still a dominate trait but a weakend one

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I was thinking Slugcats get acid and Scavengers get fire for that region, but maybe a bit of both

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hunterthinking come to think of Arti's bloodline

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Does it only apply like royal family or is it at random?

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IDK, maybe?

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I mean, like the royal family retaining their bloodline or everyone got it but at random times

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I mean, Sliver gives herself psychic powers as Saint

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The pianist does have those powers, also weakened

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But by that point...doesn't even matter. He doesn't even know the importance of being a "Saint"

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As far as he would be concerned, it's the family title

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Keeps on the play spearcool

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Becomes Glen Miller and starts banging out "In the Mood"

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slugcheese keeps on the grin

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To be clear, I have an idea as to how this will go. Dragons aside, I will explain how such an impactful ancestry just ends up having holes in it

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Just need to stick the landing

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Hey Fred, while it's going to take me a while to write the second chapter for Saints have you thought up any other ideas for the Ackerson's?

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If not, perfectly understandable. Just was wondering

quasi blaze
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Fair

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So how goes said project?

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Also right I am trying to get back into digital art

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Making myself a new pfp

quasi blaze
slim glade
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As for a scene, I'm thinking maybe of Sliver meeting merchants along with Nimol. Haven't gotten there yet so that's just a tentative idea

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Still, do want a scene with merchants

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As for a potential Ackerson scene...well there's the other C-20's (the poker idea maybe?), the scene where Four walks into to the decree of the High Butt Council, Charlie with his Matilda in college, or maybe teenage Kelly with his friends

quasi blaze
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Ooh

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Okay

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Have two ideas as to what it may be but I'll just have to wait and see

quasi blaze
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It's the obvious one

slim glade
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BTW since Alcenta is technically a "Rimworld"

quasi blaze
slim glade
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There's a video that explains the different kinds of planets and a compilation one going into the official "cannon" Xenotypes

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I put quotes in because given the nature of the game, technically all content is cannon. Mods, base game, DLC, the whole game is a story/scenario generator so anything and everything is cannon

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So by definition, yes Alcenta is a "cannon" planet in the Rimworld universe

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Go figure that one out

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Want me to find links for those vids?

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Sure

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So this is going to be something. Who knows the song "Everybody Wants to Rule the World"?

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I ask because A it's a good song and B somehow it keeps coming back and seems to fit with a lot of themes I have planned regarding the lyrics

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I do see how the lyrics fit with the themes of rain world

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Well yes, but in terms of here I was also thinking the "main story"

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That or the entire history of Alcenta in general really...

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Wait, I know. Song plus the entire Saint family tree

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That aside, I noticed we have two additions here. Welcome, feel free to join in

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Yay new people

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Always nice to see new people appear here even if they don't talk

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We got peeps for the family, eh?

We going yakuza or mafia?

slim glade
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Not sure either fit considering my plans

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Though speaking of Assissns Creed...would the Order of Lady Sliver count as a branch technically or more of something like the Tutonic Knights?

slim glade
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I mean, they're open in the city considering the political and religious power they wield but they also work very closely with other secretive groups

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Maybe

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So the Order is good guys Templars...

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The Assassin's are crapping their pants at the thought

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I always see the Templars as enemies

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(I only played like few since it was years ago)

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Truthfully, the Order is specifically for Shi Chara that works in tandem with other groups

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They know the objectives of the Iterators and how certain measures are sometimes needed for the best results, but value free will as well

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Often in the setting regardless of what era, there often is no "right" solution

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Nor do the ends justify the means

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But when faced with a situation with no real good solution...the best that can be done is chose the "best" option and hope that it works out

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Bit spoilers for main story but to be realistic, why would modern militaries place their hopes into a teenager to win a war when he's been flying by the seat of his pants the entire time?

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Logically, get the kid out of the fight and use trained specialists to command an ancient super weapon. Right?

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Now, what happens when said super weapon is bonded to the kid and he's now the only one who can actually use it to its fullest extent? Suddenly, that untrained teenager is the most important military asset in the entire theatre because whoever controls him controls the super weapon. Not exactly the most ethical or "right" thing to do is it?

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Anyway, plan to get some more of Saints done later today. Hopefully I can get the ball rolling and properly show the city off from Sliver's new perspective

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The wifi cut off last night slugempty

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Hey Fred, question

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Originally I was thinking of only two other civilizations making an appearance in Sliver's second chapter. Do we want a third?

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It would involve the "dragons"

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Anton, feel free to add your voice in also when you have the chance

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If there are dragons, one thing that comes in my mind.... Chinese civilization and I'm ain't kidding

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Head cannon, specific Iterator is very enthusiastic about dragons and decided to make their entire Facility Grounds a dragons nest

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Nordic civilization?

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Sure, why not

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Also, this would be one specific Iterator. The rest of the group looks on in amusement

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It's because they make dragons?

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Maybe Middle Eastern dragons...

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Meanwhile in the River Valley, Miros Vulture/Cyan lizard hybrids exist

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Known as Wyverns

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They're an air force

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Most immediate example I know of is the Panzer Dragoon series. Though there may be more that I'm just unaware of

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So we picking the Scandinavians or the Middle Eastern?

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Well, I was going to just have fire/acid breathing Slugcats and Scavengers but for the sake of funzies...Middle Eastern/South Asian

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But for the sake of Saints...just some weird Slugcats and Scavengers show up (though I am going to make this cannon of them being Artificer's ancestors)

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(So yes, Artemis has "dragon" ancestry since her ancient homeland was filled with cherrybomb plants and a dragon-obsessed Iterator)

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(You're welcome)

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Saint and Artificer ancestries, the total opposites

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To be clear, that one specific Facility Grounds is going to be "dragon" territory. During the process of rebuilding the biosphere, the Iterators chipped in in their own ways. This one just went a bit...into the deep end for a swim

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Very much aware of what this is and thus keeps it secure, but you're not going to find "dragons" elsewhere

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If anything, I'm thinking it's going to be one of the more wild territories. Tribal confederations rather than a proper civilization

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That being said, I've effectively just stated the five civilizations of the Rainlands now

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The Misty Isle (technically off in the middle of the ocean but shush), the River Valley, the Estuary (the place where six limbed individuals come from along with the caramel lizards who expanded aggressively), the Mountain Lake, and the surrounding region of this "dragon Facility Grounds"

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To be clear...all of this kinda just...happened. No plans, just "RANDOM BS GO" happened and I figured "sure, why not?"

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Yes it did

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Not yet, not even sure what to call the actual sector it's a part of

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The Basin Sector?

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I'm starting to think I should pull Railroad Tycoon II out and spend an afternoon making a map of the Rainlands

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Gonna describe the region spearwrite

slim glade
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(Why do games no longer give custom mapmaker tool options?)

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Wargroove actually does have a whole thing involved

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You can make your own custom campaigns, cutscenes, scripted events, and music shifts

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All while using the in-game assets

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Though...each map is going to be limited to one biome and the world maps are limited to pre-made designs

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Game is meant for skirmish battles so the fact the maps are limited to one biome makes sense

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The missions/battles

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Campaigns string different maps along

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Think of it like an RTS campaign. Snow regions will be snow maps, desert regions are desert maps, etc

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Only...turn-based game

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Aw man, turned based, I suck at those slugpensive

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Can't exploit things

slim glade
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Could play Ceasar and give units a second turn

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Who is a dog

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Like, an actual dog

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Chases his tail and rolls around on the ground dog...leading an army...and has two royal bodyguards/caretakers to interpret him/give him ear scratches

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And the army follows him

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First thing's first, write second chapter, complete Saints, then worry about map...or write Kelly's oneshot

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Or a Halloween oneshot depending on the date

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Hey, time is flying and I would not be surprised if Octboter rolls around fast

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The year closing in fast

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must create oneshot that has sewer slide encouragement

slim glade
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say sewerslide fast

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Do I even want to know? Because "sewer" does not inspire a lot of confidence

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This will do the trick slugcheese

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...That's just a waterpark accident waiting to happen

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Que the "Trust me, I'm an engineer" song

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Because of this pic, this gave me the idea

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Just don't overcomplicate things because you making your job harder makes my job harder too

slim glade
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So dragons are a thing now. For the sake of my sanity in Rimworld only one Scav and one Slugcat "subspecies" each

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Fire and acid breathe are interchangeable between the two though

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Also @nimble prawn, @tawdry oyster, @turbid vault, you three actually in here? If not then I'm not really sure why the thread lists you...

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i am yeah
i am the helper and i read -???

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Just never saw you in here is all

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Feel free to join the chaos

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Feel free to ping if you want anything pinned by the way

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Question for a scene I want to write showing off the different civilizations: Sliver is going to be with Nimol as she meets foreign merchants doing business/purposed organisms investigating what just happened to her. A week ago it was going to be two but the "dragon" idea took hold and I did say five different civilizations (first would be the Confederacy in the Mountain Lake sector and fifth is the Misty Isle which we're all familiar with down the line and too far away) so might as well. Any thoughts about these three groups and want to make suggestions of your own?

1: Estuary group would come in on a caramel lizard and be multi-limbed. Thinking purposed organism is married to a merchant but still working with the business and reporting in back home. Would be trading carpets probably...
2: River Valley group would fly in via "Wyvern" I mentioned. Merchants would be trading bionics to the Order and ornate armor to nobles. Purposed organism guards are heavily modified with bionics.
3: Basin group (AKA dragons...maybe I need a different geological feature???) would be a bit different. Merchants and purposed organisms would be fairly normal and would be trading exotic leathers. That being said, would have a "Dragoncat" and "Hoarder" Scavenger along for the ride as mercenaries/inquisitive students who left their tribes to see the rest of the world.

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Also also...national influences for each group respectively:
1 = Greek
2 = Argentina/Chile
3 = Georgia (the country)

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So wrote a lengthy scene involving Apex talking down the Iterators who were intimidating Sliver:
“Uh, Boss? I know we all want answers but is this really the right way to go about it?” Pinnacle’s combat purposed organism, an armored quill covered Slugcat by the name of Arun, asked.
“Are we even sure this is Sliver?” Piseth, a gray furred Scavenger of Bells’ research line wearing a robe, asked.
“She said as much and she will explain herself,” Pinnacle said, tone never changing.
Sliver felt herself shrink under Pinnacle’s gaze. Pinnacle of Enlightenment was rarely “intimidating,” but it took a lot to rouse the Iterator. Despite the calm, quiet tone, Sliver was shivering in fear. No amount of genetic programing-
“This is wrong,” a quiet voice spoke up.
“Apex?” Extinction questioned.
“This is wrong! Sliver is friend and scared. Friends don’t hurt friends,” a scarred, gray furred Slugcat in a poncho walked up.
One of Nimol’s soldiers stepped forward to intervene but was held back by Nimol. Sliver starred as Apex walked forward towards her. She had seen him (and the many prior copies of him) before, but seeing him like this was completely different. On one hand, he was still the armor plated, battle scarred, razer clawed Slugcat he always was. But despite every claim that he was a fool and a gluttonous killer monster, he had proven to be quite perceptive and gentle in many scenarios.
“Then what do you explain this then? She hurt us,” Theory exclaimed.
“No, Sliver did not,” Apex turned to glare at the Iterators before huffing, “Sliver asked for help with project. Sliver do project and change. Sliver explained, you don’t like explanation. You want Iterator Sliver, not Slugcat Sliver,” he turned to face Sliver, “You still Sliver? Is Sliver still Sliver?”

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“You can bet your ugly mug she is,” Chea glared at him.
“Is Sliver still Sliver? You remember last visit?” Apex ignored Chea and stared directly at Sliver.
Sliver remembered the “last time” she saw Apex. He had delivered the pearl containing genetic information and insisted on staying with her briefly. Despite being focused on his stomach and pleased with himself for a job well done, he showed concern for her and even asked what her project at the time was.
“You… You stayed for tea and asked how I was doing,” Sliver said quietly, “I told you that my project was making me feel better.”
Apex started to smile, “Project done now yes? Sliver is happy now?”
“I will be,” she answered.
With a smile, he took his poncho on and put it on her before turning to face the other Iterators, “Sliver is Sliver. Iterator, Slugcat, no matter. Sliver is Sliver!”
“Ah to Rotten damnation with it,” Piseth muttered, “I want answers just as much as everyone else does but I didn’t come here for an inquisition trial.”
“Neither did I,” Arun stepped forward and glared at his creator, “Sorry Boss, but we agreed to get answers in a civil manner. This isn’t civil, this is intimidation.”
“She still has to explain herself,” Pinnacle said.
“She will,” a timid voice, belonging to a small research line brown Slugcat, said, “But made her own choice and said she’s willing to stand by it.”
“You too Botum?” Theory exclaimed in surprise.
“You always respected Sliver’s choices and decisions before. I don’t understand them now, but I will wait to do so before I pass judgment,” Botum replied.
“And we can do this in a secure location,” Nimol huffed as he walked forward, “We’re quite conspicuous out here, it’s late, and this is our city, not yours,” he stopped in front of Sliver before extending an arm, “Madam, shall we get going?"

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A group of purposed organism discussing about Sliver's life, POE using the power of interrogation which is that and as for the dumb grey scug, that's the a-okay of the intelligence saintunyoy
Sometimes it's okay to take breaks cap

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Yup, just wanted to make sure I did Apex right

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Looks like the Iterators gonna look that up

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BTW Anton, I've mostly been getting names from Google. Any objections to the ones I've used so far?

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So yes, up until I complete the first draft of the second chapter things will remain here. I'll make a forum when I start editing

quasi blaze
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Should we have the Dadvulet 2.0 drawing as a main picture for the forum

slim glade
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I suppose? I was thinking of it being for "Songs of Alcenta" though even if Ryan is going to be a background character, he'll show up frequently enough with his coffee

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Think it should be two forums? One for Ackerson Family and the other Alcenta? Same universe and has overlap but...

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Issue with "Alcenta" is that it does bounce around time periods and it will be dominated by the war (which I do have an idea for a cover but that's down the road)

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All right...either Dadvulet or the "main story" cover

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The idea I have for the main story would be Malt, Hannibal, and Lytra all sitting together drinking tea/coffee. Just...taking a load off from the chaos and enjoying a warm mug of something

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Thoughts?

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It's pretty good but I am not sure if it will fit the themes that the "main story" will probably have but you are the creator so you probably know better

slim glade
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I mean...we can throw the Taranis in the background for extra measure...

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They would be the main characters for the "main story"

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Malt would be center stage of the three in control of ancient super weapon, Hannibal would be the secret society operative with the knowledge and skills to protect the world from the shadows, and Lytra would be the ordinary soldier getting roped into something far greater than an intercontinental conflict

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Also...Lytra would quickly become Ruffles and Martin's sergeant

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Hmm let's hope for my sake that the designs wouldn't be too hard to draw

slim glade
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I mean, Hannibal is Hunter so that one is easy

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Idk about art tho again saintstare

quasi blaze
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Everything else I have never drawn

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Been too long

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I will try drawing it once I am done with other projects

slim glade
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Fair enough

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I am just flinging random ideas at you suddenly so I can understand you're in a bit of a loop

quasi blaze
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It's fine gives me more time to focus on my craft instead of thinking

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Thinking is overrated honestly

slim glade
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You need character pictures for Lytra and Malt?

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Sure

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I'll get them later today (my today). In the meantime, I'll leave ya to it

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Alright then gonna go finish reading Special Deliveries and after that I will start writing the Arti one-shot

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After all, the good part is there slugcheese

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Well enjoy your horror if you get lucky with your coin flip while I go enjoy my fluff

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Me this weekend: How am I supposed to write a medieval city?

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Both I guess

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Khmer Medieval

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Shi Chara is a progressive city remember

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Gonna capture Khmer tho

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And Apex one-upping Iterators with a healthy does of simplistic wisdom

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Spoilers for CB
||Gonna make conflict hunterglee||

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All right now that I have the opportunity to do this right I'm going to share the images for ya Fred

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Hm hunterthinking

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As stated earlier (or yesterday for your time???), these two will be the other two main characters besides Hannibal (AKA the Hunter we are familiar with)

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Cannot draw body slugpensive

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I mean...I can't draw period and I was throwing an idea out there.

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At the very least...Dadvulet with his mug of stupid

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The mug of stupid

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No, refrain cultist activity

clever rivet
slim glade
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Uh...I pulled them from online. In game assets

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Womp

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I WISH I could draw but I'll stick to writing

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Closest I'll ever get really is Spore

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(Anyone remember that one?)

slim glade
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Also, maybe after I get done with Saints but before I do Kelly's oneshot I do a world building breakdown of each of the five Rainlands civilizations?

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Que maniacal laughter of taking on more than is necessary because "funzzies"

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Probably should just stick to one civilization...

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So...what would your reaction be if you saw a conga line of red centipede sized...centipedes crawling down the street?

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I would find the biggest spore puff to kill every centipedes in the vicinity

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Now imagine them pulling wagons from the fall harvest

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I would still kill a centipede but if it's used for transportation....

50/50

slim glade
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Farmers need to bring crops in somehow

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Most Rain World writers use lizards

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Havarda Confederacy uses vicepedes

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But centipedes are detrivores and will eat the dead and could use for compost....

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Can't believe I went agriculture once

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And also, Cap
I may have give Apex wrinkles in their brain too sluggrimace

slim glade
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I saw. Uh...sorry for giving him an education???

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sluggrimace they should have smooth brain but now I think about it, it would certainly destroy the concept of them always going outside

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I just figured make him the dumb ass with moments of surprising intelligence in a very straightforward and simplistic manner

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At least in the version I'm borrowing him as

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Hey Captain do you have any interesting scenes I can draw for Sliver of Saints chapter 2 yet?

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I need to know if I should start my Charlie drawing now or later

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Well, I have the scene I showed earlier (mostly to get Anton's approval in regards to Apex) and I have a scene where Sliver and her new...bodyguard/assistant watch her old can collapse

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As for the merchant scene, haven't gotten to that yet

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Oh...and there's the busy street of giant centipedes pulling farm wagons. The bodyguard is in that one also

quasi blaze
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I am guessing the bodyguard is Chea

slim glade
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Actually, no

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The Saints had to get their green fur from somewhere...and Sliver is silver right now

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Hmm

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I see what is happening

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Narith

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A member of the Order of Lady Sliver who is in on the whole thing and tasked to watch over the reborn Sliver while the purposed organisms handle the city

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Hey, Nimol is very integrated in the politics and religion, Dialect is a diplomat and understands foreign politics very well, and Chea understands architecture very well.

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As much as they want to, they can't exactly abandon Shi Chara

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(Que Starship's "We Built this City" because why not...)

quasi blaze
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Question how does Narith look like?

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Is he just a normal green slugcat?

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A green, fuzzy Survivor

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He's as basic as it gets

quasi blaze
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I'll probably will draw Slivers can collapsing the only problem is that I need to draw an Iterator can

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Which has 10 million tiny details

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As it's above a city, on an island, in the middle of a giant mountain lake

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Chea did her math and made sure that when it fell it would be controlled and the damage would be minimal

quasi blaze
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Can you show me the scene of the collapse if you already written it of course

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I'll grab it later

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So that I could the draw it accurately

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Yup, but I'll have to get it later. Phones aren't the best means of grabbing blocks of text

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Alright I'll probably start tomorrow anyway

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Also and even though I haven't written the merchant scene, why is it so difficult to actually think up the medieval armament for a four armed individual?

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Best I can think of is a spear, shield, and two arming swords/daggers

quasi blaze
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I mean we don't have 4 arms so there is no medieval armaments meant to be used by and individual with 4 arms

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You could use 2 handed weapons and see how it works out

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Somehow, I feel like guns would be simultaneously easier and more convoluted to use with four arms

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Rebels down the line fighting to free their ancestral home dressed like gangsters with Tommy's

quasi blaze
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It depends on how close the shoulders are to each other

slim glade
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Call of Duty/Escape from Tarkov crazy setups probably would be normal for those guys

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Triple foregrips???

quasi blaze
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Maximum stability

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Meanwhile with the dragoncats: We might be armed with spears but we can belch fire and acid and pick fights with crimson lizards because we're hungry

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Yes, I plan to have the "dragons" go after red lizards casually because they're hungry and want a good hunt

quasi blaze
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Do you think red lizard tastes good?

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Which begs the question...if reds don't scare them then what does?

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I don't think they do

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Or hurricane lizard

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Local Iterator makes dragon themed wildlife. Might have overdone the designs

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Dragon vulture

slim glade
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Well yes but what else?

quasi blaze
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Dragon centipede of course

slim glade
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How would that even work?

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Centiwings on steroids?

quasi blaze
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Centipede have mouths probably

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So make them breath fire instead of electrocuting

slim glade
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Maybe instead of centipedes it's bombadier beetles?

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Wait...I think I just made the perfect nightmare fuel lizard for that specific Facility Ground

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Ever see the Snake Wyverns in Monster Hunter?

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Nope

slim glade
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Besides having the largest creature in the franchise (Dalamadur carves mountains by twitching its body), they have claws as well as the ability to coil

quasi blaze
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Terrifying

slim glade
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Now then, rather than have them be the size of busses and above, let's have them be as nimble as pink lizards as a base while bringing something extra to their bites and being able to constrict at the same time

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Is it any wonder why the more advanced nations just throw their hands up in futility if they want to colonize the Facility Grounds? Toast that noise

quasi blaze
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At least they keep the iterators safe

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I bet if an advanced nation wanted to it could disassemble an iterator in a decade

slim glade
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Don't mind me, just casually making 40K Catachan over here

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Also, even Moon's and Pebbles' Grounds are dangerous with the wildlife and the terrain? You really do need to bring your acrobatics to navigate the place

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ATVs won't cut it there despite the name

quasi blaze
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Make sense considering how many death pits and big gaps there are in rain world

slim glade
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You'd need a helicopter to navigate Sky Islands...

quasi blaze
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Squidcadas are mini biological helicopters in my head so that makes sense

slim glade
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Lol

slim glade
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And then Pebbles sends his airforce of Miros Vultures...

quasi blaze
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Big stupid flying bird with explosive lasers Vs 10 tanks who wins

slim glade
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The angry rat with too many sharp sticks

quasi blaze
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Isn't that pretty much Seven?

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Or Artemis

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Or just a very, very, VERY stubborn Slugcat who hates Miros Vultures

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Oh by the way, since I did make a "Dragoncat" and a "Hoarder" (Scavenger variant basically) in Rimworld you want body details? It'll be again later but if you want some draft ideas for the "merchant scene" I can do that

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Sure

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Okay, I'll give a detailed list of descriptions of the merchants along with accompanying parties I have planned

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Don't forget the Slivers can collapsing scene

slim glade
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That too

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All of that being said...wonder if I should mention Rain Deers being used anywhere...

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Meh, later chapters

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Probably the wild elephants of the Rainlands

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(Though how the bleep do their legs work???)

quasi blaze
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Romantic dinner on a Rain Deer

slim glade
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Lol

quasi blaze
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Good news I got a new art style that I like which makes my art look very very good

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So the next drawing will be with extra quality probably

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All right, this is the scene where Sliver's old can collapses. Keep in mind, still a work in progress for the chapter as a whole so it may change:

Both Sliver and Narith flinched as a loud boom was heard. Rushing towards the window, they stared in shock as the defunct Iterator can began to collapse. The legs snapped and twisted, instruments were sheared off from unexpected momentum, supports failed as gravity generators shut down, metal shrieked and boomed as everything collapsed. Even from a fair distance away, the floor vibrated as parts of Sliver’s old body hit the ground.
“Under the bed!” she shouted as another leg snapped in the distance.
“Wh-What?” Narith gapped, still staring at the unfolding collapse.
“Quickly! Now!” Sliver crawled under her bed and covered her head.
Narith snapped out of his stupor and instead rushed for the desk, throwing the chair aside and rolling his spear to the far side of the room. Within moments, the entire building was shaking. Both Sliver and Narith closed their eyes and braced as the thunderous crash was both heard and felt. Just as quickly as it had happened, the shaking was over and bells were being rung all across the city. Both Slugcats looked at each other before letting out uneasy laughs.
“So that’s what a quake feels like down here,” Sliver said anxiously as she crawled out from the bed, “Can’t say it was an enjoyable experience.”

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Traits for "Dragoncats" are as follows:
*Fire/Acid breath
*On the small side for height
*Bulky and can take physical punishment
*Long tail that can grapple opponents
*Claws that can serve as weapons
*Floppy ears
*Horns
*(Maybe???) Digitigrade legs

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Traits for "Hoarder" Scavengers are roughly the same only having more pointy ears than floppy ones

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So it's been a while since I shared these things...thoughts?

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I'll admit, the traits for the "dragons" come primarily from Rimworld and it's mods but I don't see a copyright claim on ears

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If people copyright ears, then something very wacky is going on...

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Like they would point it out?

slim glade
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I meant ears in general

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Hearing it?

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Nevermind...

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So...thoughts about the "dragons?"

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Sorry if I can't understand sometimes

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The dragoncats?

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And the Scavengers also

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Ye they cool as they are basically walking tanks

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Can use both acid and fire breaths (can melt in their path if they wanted too)

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Or maybe just one element alone

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Well, one or thr other

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For Rimworld balance purposes purposes, the cats get fire while the Scavs get the acid

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But Alcenta they can have one or the other. May depend on parents

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Surprisingly, the acid is much more reliable than the fire even if you can spray yourself...

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Womp

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Also...plants burn easily

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Fire should be hot enough to melt metal

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Acid on the other hand slugempty

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It's liquid based. It may not melt armor but...uh...natural napalm

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That being said while these guys are tanks, I see their claws and probably thick hides making them a tad clumsy

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So the Peninsula based guys (AKA what we play as in Rain World) are more agile, nimble, can climb better, and can handle thr jungle gym called Underhang better

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These guys...get them grapple worms or Squids

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Can't climb slugpensive

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But can they use claws as leverage?

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Claws are okay but thick and cumbersome. Very good melee weapons in a pinch though

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The guys in Shi Chara meanwhile are better suited for the cold and the lake

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Question what will be the time of year in the second chapter of Sliver of Saints

slim glade
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The Estuary (the guys with four arms) are great at the sea, marshy/swampy terrain, and thick trees

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Oh ok that means no snow

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And for extra measure, the River Valley is actually a desert. Think American Southwest with a single lifeline going through it. Folks from there are used to high heat, dry conditions

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Also another question what generation of iterators Sliver of Straw is?

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I need to know how many legs I need to draw

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Sliver was a Gen 2. I'd say Moon was a Gen 1 while Pebbles could be a 3 or 4 depending on how advanced we want him

quasi blaze
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So like 4/6 legs

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I guess? We don't really see a whole lot of different Iterators and those in the background are obscured

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They are still kinda op

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I mean, the C-20's aren't OP. They have flaws, likes and dislikes, and a whole load of issues

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They just enhanced scugs

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Way I see it, the "dragons" would struggle in say Chimney. Putting aside my gripes with that region, the Slugcats we play as are better able to navigate that place

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Also...the "dragons" might be small but I don't see them being subtle...

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They may be not tall but they can be seen sometimes due to scales

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Sure

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Trying more to balance everyone out really

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I mean, giant anteaters can smack a jaguar in the face but they would struggle to get a meal in France or somewhere like that (just went with random country)

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But colder and no giant insect mounds to eat

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Also...just look at a picture of a giant anteater

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It's a walking duster/mop

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Only animal more of a mop is an Old English Sheep Dog...

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I like sheepdogs slugcheese

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But dragons would slap the crap out of everyone, tank damage, ability to spit flames or acid

Downside, they clumsy, they slow, they aren't subtle

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I'm also seeing them as the most "animalistic" Slugcats/Scavengers in the Rainlands

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Can pick up on ideas and concepts, but civilization is NOT for them. Tribal alliances and communal freedoms are more likely

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"Savages I tell you... I tried to shoot em, bullets bouncing off from their scales."

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"They keep on comin, good thing these creatures were slow."

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Martin (Monk) might come from the wilds as in a migratory tribe, but he's able to grasp ideas like electricity, automobiles, modern medicine, and the such easily

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One who fought in JRPG WWII, came home, and opened a clinic

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Living the life monkskinnyjeans

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The "dragons" aren't stupid or "savage," but these things beyond the Facility Grounds retaining wall are the wonders of others

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Novelties, experiences, exciting...but too complicated and too restrictive for them as a whole

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Granted, individuals may come out and choose that lifestyle because individuals can be exceptions

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But by and large, they are a tribal confederacy that is aware of what goes on beyond their home but not all that eager to exactly join the chaos

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So they ain't warlike?

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It's better to remain as the semi-isolated friendly neighbors who get novelties in exchange for exotic leathers and firebush harvests

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But still wary of outsiders?

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Some may, others not so much

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They're aware of the civilization surrounding them and actively trade/go out to witness things

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But many are content to hunt, eat, and enjoy the simpler things in life

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A gourmand way to go

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Also...communal

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As I said, they're going to be the most simple of groups so so long as you behave in the tribe everything is equal

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Can't say it's not world building...

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Looking savage on the outside

Chill in the inside (and I'm not talking about how they could spew fire or acid)

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Also, their immediate neighbors do have decent terms with them (as will be seen in the merchant scene). Again, medieval Georgia here so men-at-arms and knights interact with these tribes often. Decent scouts who go after very large game, fierce warriors who laugh at red lizards, good retainers, and trade partners who bring in exotic goods

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Just...be careful if you decide to join a tribe... Things are much more wild and free. The entire tribe is family and the general rules are obey whoever the leader is and don't cause trouble

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Such as like "be bitten to a snake who has the most deadliest venom and survive and if you survive, you are one of us" scenario?

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No

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There will be those who specialize in things like medicine, crafting, and foraging

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But...you know how the general idea for the Slugcats in-game is that they raise pups in a communal manner?

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slugsweat I went a bit of overboard