#Ackerson Family

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I'm gonna finish my 7th chapter of my first work

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The 5th chapter can wait

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So I wasn't able to get any info on 1960 camera resolution outside of it being bad...womp

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Well Fred, Kelly has two cameras as you know. The Polaroid instant one (which is worse quality but convenient and in color) and the wind up film one (slower, more work intensive, not in color, but better picture quality)

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Also guys, question kinda revolving around Kelly. So it's clear both Charlie and Kelly really care about Ryan and don't want to give him PTSD episodes. That being said, Ryan had been involved in what would equate to WWII on steroids and witnessed first hand some of the most pivotal moments. I cane easily see a "Band of Brothers" production taken both in as a media source and to tell the story behind the events. Think Kelly should be one of the leaders behind a project aiming for authenticity despite being a cameraman?

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Because let's be honest about the real world for a sec, Band of Brothers did so well because it still had members of Easy Company to interview and consult who saw and did those things. I haven't seen Masters of thr Air but I know the quality isn't as good simply because the men who flew those planes aren't around anymore

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I haven't watch the band of brothers

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Really?

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Me neither

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Huh...very good show but it's as faithful to the real events as Hollywood allows

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Supposedly, Tom Hanks said that getting 12% accuracy would be brilliant and that they were aiming for 18%

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I know that seems low for historical accuracy but...Hollywood

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An old show?

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Like...2001 I think

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The Pacific came out 2011 and it followed the 1st Marines (also had Sgt John Basilone covered, remember me mentioning him?)

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Of Iwo Jima

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Point is, Band of Brothers was extremely faithful to the actual training regimen, battles, tactics, people, places, and events even with Hollywood theatrics

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They had the actual veterans to consult and interview. If something was wrong that could be fixed, they damn well fixed it

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Things they couldn't exactly fix were the specific "who did what" due to actors, it being impossible to recreate everything 1 to 1, and they kept taking their helmets off in the show for whatever reason despite being in the field

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Back to Kelly with all of that

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Kelly knows Ryan was there and did things. I can see him getting annoyed that whatever studio he would be working for is not really capturing what happened due to being more interested in the big screen theatrics

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Does that mean pressuring the matter?

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More like first raising enough of a fuss to get the attention of directors who also would care about retelling history as opposed to theatrics and, more importantly for what I'm looking at, him actually asking his father if he would do an interview

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Because once someone is gone, the story goes with them

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An accuracy of the thing rather than going on like a blaze or "war is fun"?

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More or less

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The accurate presentation of war

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Granted, this would be looking for the Taranis crew (who would be middle-aged adults by this point) and other individuals who were at the actual scene. But this would be personal

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If I ask, despite it could be spoiler, did anyone in the Taranis died? Like a casualty of war?

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Well...the plan so far is no but Fuga 3 hasn't gotten even a proper teaser trailer yet so that won't exactly be the focus

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The scene would be more of Kelly telling everyone what is in the works and him offering Ryan the opportunity to tell his story despite knowing how much truama Ryan experienced as Ruffles

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I can see Kelly being a pioneer in new camera techniques also which would give him leeway. He's an Ackerson kid after all, of course he is going to be great at what he does

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Especially gramps would be proud :)))

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I'm just wondering if such a scene would work well...

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And again, it's more about the authenticity of the story rather than theatrics

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The accurate representation of war, the sudden events happened

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Prior to Spielberg and Hanks releasing Saving Private Ryan (if you haven't seen that, be ready for one hell of a ride because it is one), a lot of WWII movies likely did not really capture the conflict of WWII

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The saving private ryan was hell

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Big Red One showed some stuff, but it was still mostly "USA leads the way! We're heroes who save the day!" kind of gig

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Especially the Omaha assault

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Exactly

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Which while maybe true, it wasn't glamorous

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Oh boy, let us use manpower :)))

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LE being the commissar and Apex being the conscripts

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Band of Brothers had the paratroopers rushing into Carentan against heavy machine gun fire and then repel an armored infantry assault on the flank while outgunned and low on ammo

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They stormed the Netherlands in Market Garden and saw cities get burnt to the ground in retaliation. A platoon drives off two full companies thanks to superior training, firepower, and leadership

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They are sent to Bastogne under equipped with no winter clothes, limited ammo, and almost no medical equipment

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And then as they storm into Germany, they are mopping up and looting as they go

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It isn't pretty and has a lot of questionable actions

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The paratroopers hold off against armour company

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(If you can beleive it, these guys had it better than the Marines in the Pacific theatre... That was just straight up nasty)

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Imperial Japanese: slugcheese

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Soldiers trained to be ruthless and sticking the way of the Bushido is the one thing you don't wanna mess

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The point of all of that is that these events happened and it was not heroic

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In my setting, Kelly would understand that fact and he doesn't want the sacrifices of millions to be reduced to big screen theatrics

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Neither would Charlie for the record. The big difference would be that Charlie would prefer to do his homework by reading books and records as opposed to asking people because he's too sympathetic and anxious about causing PTSD episodes

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I mean, trauma could lead to something

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Better yet, I can't stay up late

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That 1 am really getting back to me

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I'll bet

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TLDR: I'm thinking of a scene where Kelly mentions he is helping set up the framework of a new show that accurately portrays the events and he's asking Ryan to do an interview for direct reference material. Yay or nay?

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Oya, Fred, what do you say?

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Hmmm

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I'd say Yay

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That makes two yays, cap'n

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Also...this would probably be in my grand sendoff story for the Ackerson Family series. Charlie and Kelly are adults, Sev and Ryan are actual grandparents, things are looking up all around, and the family is together

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I'd say a pretty good way to close this series would be over a nice warm mug of coffee and a plate of eggs for breakfast

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That's actually heartwarming

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And I think gonna cry for it after seeing that (I'm very family oriented)

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Hey, this series started with Charlie waking up and having coffee and eggs despite complaining about eggs for the umpteenth time. What better way to close it out when I eventually do?

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Nah, the eggs won't be his problem as it is now a part of a memory, happy ones and sad ones

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Well, let's see where I go until then

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Future me will handle that, present me needs to continue Saints and think up a proper Kelly story after that

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I'm actually sad but this is the happiest ending you could have as a family :(((

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Now I must bid adios, good day to you guys

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Bye

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Bye bye

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Well, some more writing done. Still going to take a while for Sliver to become Saint but oh well. In the meantime, her purposed organisms!

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To start off, Chea the Mason: Blue furred scavenger with a bionic backpack filled with extra arms and tools, making her Doctor Octopus if he were an Iterator maintenance worker

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Next is Nimol the Arbalist: Khaki furred Slugcat with armor, maybe an inch taller than average, physically strong, and carries himself with importance. When he speaks, you listen because he's as good a statesman as he is a soldier

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:(((

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Finally Dialect the Councilor: Ash-gray fur, going to be thin in a graceful way, and an excellent diplomat. Don't think that a frail appearance or him being soft-spoken means he's a pushover (or him being a research line with a focus for culture), he can stand his own with a hatchet or a short sword

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AKA, Sliver's three purposed organisms covering maintenance, combat, and research in the respective order given

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Anton, are the names decent?

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(Have other names to cover but one thing at a time)

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They good, so Sliver got three purposed organism named Arbalest, Chea, and Dialect

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Nimol is the Arbalist

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Yea, the names are decent

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Might as well knock out the other names I've cooked up fast

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Sliver's patron city: Shi Chara

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Oh? Do elaborate the other names you have

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The lake: Lake Ri’Taln

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Religious caste: Kshenta

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The civilization group name: Havarda Confederacy

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Two suspects Nimol is looking into regarding troubling rumors: vizier Hanzen of House Spearflower and chaplin Cothsyn

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That's all the made up names I have made

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So far...

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Well, those are decent names

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Phew, great

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I've made up names/places/people before, but I'm playing it a tad safe here again

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So I'm glad I did things right

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Alright then

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There is a chance that the Kelly drawing will be done tomorrow

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Huzzah

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And also, how's the day Fred?

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It's alright

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Didn't sleep very well but it's fine

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But having good rest, correct?

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Yep

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Also, wanna try to make ocs and crap?

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Later

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Aight, nighttime closing in on mine and it's currently 11 pm

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Headaches forbid me to drink coffee tho slugpensive

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Devastating I hope tomorrow you won't have a headache so that you could follow the way of Dadvulet

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Praise be the coffee

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How have I made a coffee cult? What is this, the 1700's?!

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Nothing can stop coffee man, it's too powerful slugcheese

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Except the Great Depression where Brazil destroyed a year world supply of it

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slugempty the 1920's

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They wanted to keep the global cost up so they reduced the supply

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Intentionally draining the coffee, first time for me hearing it
But inflations tho

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I think the Depression was deflation

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On the mother of all scales...

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Everyone thinks inflation is bad when a small amount actually is beneficial

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How so?

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Not sure about the exact details but it typically means the economy is doing well, there's growth and competition, stuff like that

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When it gets out of hand though, then that's where the problems arise where everything skyrockets

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That could crash an economy

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If everything stayed the same, the economy stagnates

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Too much inflation, no one can afford anything

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Too much deflation, nothing has value

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It's very delicate and easy to mess up obviously

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I feel like I'm back at ethics and morals rn

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Unfortunately, the world has a very good habit of messing it up

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Everyone would do the fumble

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Of course, something needs to have "value" to be worth something

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Fallout actually does a good job of this

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In the lore, drinking water actually was the immediate standard in the post apocalypse

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But you kinda need water to live so you'd be drinking your money...

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So instead, the Wasteland shifted to the bottle cap

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At first glance, those are worthless

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But they were impossible to counterfeit, could be used as a standard currency, and ubiquitous enough that nearly anyone could get their hands on them

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Economics is messy and complicated, an entire field of science in itself

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Part of interdisciplinary of social sciences slugempty

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The economy is something we don't wanna touch

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But still fumbled

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And so it goes

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Writing Armello?

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After that 4th chapter, I have the writing to continue the 7th chapter

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They have been there for half a year so gonna write it

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Fair

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Still stuck on the first chapter here

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AV hasn't made an appearance yet

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Looks time for the coffee

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And some messed up ideas for my cough boy

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Apex or LE?

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Apex is already a mess

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Because I have an idea for LE to shun other iterators :)))

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Well, I have a scene in mind of him giving LE another aneurism soonish

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Interrupts private call and wants to say hi to Sliver

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LE having aneurism

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Gonna write that down spearwrite

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So...how much of one does Three have?

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In your version

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How much what?

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Of an aneurism

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Not really

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Just gonna have a huge headache as he's gonna see Apex soon enough

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Nice

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And pretty soon, like Three managed to pacify the battlefield until both of them showed up (Sitter didn't caused it but the other one did)

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...Apex...you should know you're on the same team right??? Right? RIGHT?

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They won't know the difference of an ally and food

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Of course...

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I thought Three is the red lizard inspired Slugcat

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The red lizard indeed and the scav population ain't happy for it

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But a lot pearls could pacify the fight (but on artificer ain't)

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Where is this anyway? The Deadlands concept?

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If so, Nomad run for it!

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Idk, I'm making shit up as I go

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But in mind, I already thought like oasis first then marching through desert, found Three calmed down angry skrunkly fight, Apex started it again, chaos ensued, Three saved Sitter from the fight, talking talking and then marched into familiar ground

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Nice

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(Meanwhile, wonders what nationality to borrow from for the River Valley sector which neighbors Alejandro...)

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What does the River Valley sector looked like? (In your mind)

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Hot and arid mudflats, most of it sustainable during to the overflow of the river

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Arid climates are a lot actually slugempty

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Has a "Proto-Iterator" in control of a shoreline refinery/industrial complex along with nearby offshore drilling platform, a mountain fortress monastery at the other end of the river, and a walking Iterator ferrying supplies from end of the valley to the other

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The mountain monastery does include its own Iterator

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Arid climates, has shoreline refinery, near a mountain monastery at the end of a river

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With an AT-AT Iterator

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Sorry cap, I got nothing, there are times I do not know about geography

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Morocco???

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I mean, Alejandro is either going to be Spainish or Latin American with his inspiration

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Just just keep the Spanish/Hispanic theme going...

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I mean Morocco does have the Spanish theme

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And it is an arid nation

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But idk about the other notable locations

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Mexico???

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What I do have a solid theme for the River Valley is that it would be the most "militant" place from the Ancients

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Rain World lore wise we could say it has a history of conflict or something like that

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Alcenta though...it was the border to one of the "old world" nations

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Many conflicts on that sector?

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The Ancients would have had very good reason to have an armed border guard for defense purposes

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When said neighbors are the ones who developed the Rot in case they needed to fight against their southern neighbors...

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So, River Valley is the DMZ checkpoint and has a boatload of cybernetic purposed organisms...and an electric Slugact who grew up in the powerplants

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Gonna put it near the river

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I do have some stuff fleshed out for the River Valley

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Also, you thought Miros Vultures are bad?

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The walking Iterator has an airforce of cyborg Cyan lizard/Miros Vulture hybrids tailor built for defense

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And maintenance

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I was gonna type something but that

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Do they shoot and blast crap

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I would have them do that or something along those lines

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Alejandro himself might be chill, but his old superiors designed the Rot in case their southern border became ANOTHER battle line

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World conflict slugcheese

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And this Rot I'm thinking is even scarier than Rain World Rot

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Anyway brb

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Just look up Rimworld Anomaly's Fleshbeasts

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Gonna buy me some coffee

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Now combine that with the Rain World Rot...

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A biological computer virus tailor built to KILL ITERATORS and Ancient purposed organisms

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They looked like tyranids but not insectoids looking

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Instead, walking piles of rotting meat with spikes...how lovely

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So let's mix those in because why not an FP accidently gets an infection of them alongside the standard Rain World walking tumors

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YIPPEE

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Oh boy

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And the wiki said they moved in hordes

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Oh and better yet because there's more like Oxi Clean!

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They can make underground cave networks...

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And burrow up

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And when you kill the hivemind, the caves collapse

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Or better yet

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The pulls an actual Rain World Rot and spreads everywhere and you need to synthesize a toxin in order to deal with the growing meat department rejects

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So yeah...the Iterators are scared of this stuff and their purposed organisms also have good reason to fear it also

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It could spread everywhere, must terminate

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At the very least, Anomaly monsters are quite flammable

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So...crack out the flamethrowers and start the barbeque

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And where do the Rot occurs on your setting?

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Well remember how Sev has a very bad opinion about Pebbles? He fell for a Trojan Horse version and went a tad insane and made her do clean up duty on top of his "holier than thou" attitude

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Moon had to lock the place down and the communication arrays also suffered due to the rampant chaos and Sev basically had to fix this mess...when her whole gig is not this

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slugempty oh boy

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As for the war setting...someone kinda took a nap and wants "their" world back and has noticed a distinct lack of former enemies laying around. Better grap that biological computer virus our enemies had in store for later once we restart our war machine. Now about those Wargs?

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The combined nations and the Rubicon Offensive: What...the...hell is that? Where did they get Rot bioweapons and why are those a thing???

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The power of bioweapons slugcheese

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The Iterators are so scared of the Rot a group developed a specific counter unit for it. I'm going to have them be the Biological HazardousWeapon Containment unit, often just nicknamed the "B-Hawks"

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But does the countering unit gets countered? huntereyebrow

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You know how nations have special units against nuclear and biological weapons?

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That's going to be the B-Hawks

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Crack troops tailor built to deal with anything and everything imaginable

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Toxic purposed organism? Rimworld chemfuel fire? Rot outbreak? Someone using chemical weapons? These are the guys who are built and trained to deal with that environment

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Truthfully, they pretty chill. Everyone else looks at them with suspicion and admiration due to their jobs

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Great guys to have on your side or to just talk with, VERY BAD news when they show up and they're working because something absolutely awful is going on even by purposed organism standards

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Anyway, the Rot is going to really be one of those horrors from the Alcenta of old. It'll make a bit of a cameo and be released briefly, but it's implications are the more terrifying aspect rather than it's actual deployment

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Horrors beyond comprehension

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Speaking of...how far into Fuga did you get?

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Sadly still in the first gameplay

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So, so tempted to bring something up

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Tryna understand the starting point

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From the game or my lore?

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The game

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To avoid late game stuff, I'll give the basics of the first chapter

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Ten years before the start, the neighboring country of Berman effectively had a military coup with its leader, literally Kaiser is his name, declaring himself emperor. They go on to conquer other nations and make extensive use of airship. Who Kasier is outside of being the "Berman Emperor" is unknown currently.

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Fast forward to present day, the Bermans are invading the Free Lands of Gasco and are steamrolling their way through the country due to military enthusiasm, technological advantages, and the Gasconians lacking their own real experience

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Gasco looked like France in some point

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In the north western provinces, the Bermans are systematically rounding up villages and deporting them elsewhere. This is done regardless of strategic value or reason, the people are nabbed and shipped off. One such village is Petit Mona

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As the trope goes, one dark and stormy night the Bermans attack the town. There is no Gasconian military in the area, it's in the middle of nowhere, and the worst thing to worry about is the smell of manure. Nevertheless, the Bermans round everyone up...except for six kids who make a break for it

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Following the advice of a radio, they make for the forbidden cave in the mountains and find a slumbering giant waiting for them...

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What follows next changes everything. For the kids, for Gasco, for Berman, and the world

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That is enough to explain the games without going into detail about the big secrets and surprises

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Oh, wait. One more thing

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The head commanding officer in charge of the invasion: Colonel General Shvein Hax. A merciless, cruel, fanatical soldier who somehow KNOWS about the Taranis and strangely, very enthusiastic about its sudden intervention despite it countering his invasion

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Needless to say, one of the big bads I will have to work with

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Not quite...

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He's excited about the Taranis but not because he specifically wants it

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Though, a different big bad that I'm going to make wants the Taranis for himself and that one is the one who brings Wargs, pulse weapons, and the Rot into the mix

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Also as some trivia, Hax looks like a doberman M. Bison by character design...go figure

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Gonna look up some lore :)))

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As for how Hannibal and Seven come into this picture, they honestly had no idea about the Taranis. They knew of it due to it being on a list of "things to be on the look out for" but they weren't going after it initially. It's not until rumors of a giant tank running amuck they drop their task and chase after it

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I would be surprised a tank that has the size of a warehouse running around and trampling defenses as if they are twigs wouldn't peak my interest slugevil

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Meanwhile to the north in the counter offensive against the Bermans and Tsarists, a corporal quickly finds herself in conspiracy surrounding the ancient facilities surrounding the countryside they are liberating. Also, what's with the rumors down south? Something about a "Steel Devil?"

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Oh well, looks like that Colonial unit needs saving again. Those guys fight hard and are good people. Wonder if that rifleman and medic are still going back and forth about coffee...

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Martin and Ryan on the other hand tho

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Well crap, here we go again! Where's our back up?! Oh wait...the Republic is saving our ass again. Well, at least whatever the hell is going on down in Gasco is giving us the breakthrough we need... Who wants coffee???

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Artemis watching this: You're both stupid and so is your coffee

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Honestly, the Colonial Regiment is going to be that group of side characters who keep showing up despite being only a cog in the machine

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Arti, our precious looking at a pic where she's sitting on a pile of dead scavs

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Actually...she's working with other Scavengers in the unit

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She doesn't hate all Scavengers, just the one tribe that ruined her life

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She'll have some extra bite because she's bitter, but a kid shaking and looking like he's going to piss himself isn't a marauder who gets their kicks out of burning frontier settlements

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She does makes exceptions, interesting :)))

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More like she knows who her enemies are and she's more than a one track minded character

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Oh yeah, somewhere behind the lines, a fluffy individual is going to be playing the piano and have absolutely zero clue about his family history

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Saint: focusing on becoming a pianist
The saint bloodline: slugwhat

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Anyway still need to get there, will need to think up a one shot for Kelly, and have A Symphonic Harmony to write

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Captain I have a question where are Kelly's fins placed on his body

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Arms and legs

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Sorry for delayed response regarding that

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Okay

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Probably will get my answer at the end but which version of Kelly is this? Toddler, kid, or adolescent?

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...The High Butt Council shall decide your fate I see

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Well, looking forward to it

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Bet he'll be adorable

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And devious

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Anyway, more progress and I guess I'll give an update since it's going slowly: Sliver is having a mental breakdown due to being "purposeless" after doing a perfect job of establishing a progressive civilization and is being confronted by her creations

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This also comes after a botched confession to the only Iterator in her local group she could trust before getting cold feet...

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No, LE was not the one and let's be honest he would be a terrible person to confess a life crisis to

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He would not confess anything that sees as weakness

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More like he would be a terrible person to confess to

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Still we got like three more

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I even have Sliver saying "Well I don't need to say much about him"

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That leaves to POE, TBT or GDT

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It was GDOT or Theory

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Alright that leaves to them

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Which is funny since Theory is actually very conservative and old school compared to Sliver's progressive mindset

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Theory disagrees with the rapid social reforms and sees the breakdown of the caste system as destabalization of social order BUT acknowledges it's working for Sliver and respects her methods

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GDOT: I'm slow, narrow minded, and still value the traditions of our creators even if I can see the benefits of letting them go.

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The conservatism method

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It's funny to see some peeps hold something in the past and it actually effective sometimes

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Again, Theory is a hard line traditionalist but doesn't ram that down other people's throats and keeps a very civil conversation with conflicting opinions

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Reasonable guy slugcheese

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Also...very concerned when Sliver goes from panic breakdown to almost no emotions and suddenly leaves despite her asking for a talk

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The breakdown after completing everything

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Like in Hollow Knight slugscrem

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I'm having Sliver being depressed because her city doesn't need her, her purposed organisms don't need her, her local group doesn't need her, and the only thing left is the original "Great Problem" which...we all know how that turns out in Rain World

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Basically, she feels like she's a purposed organism with no purpose

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And so she turned herself into a scug after that?

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And this isn't just a temporary break, she literally feels like she has accomplished everything and she has NOTHING to do

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But it's getting there. If she's not needed as a goddess and it does appear that the average citizen lives a fulfilling life...

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What purpose you serve if you have done the very purpose

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That's the thing

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See the original Megamind?

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Yes

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He won, has complete reign of the city, and had everything...and he has nothing

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Much better than the crappy sequel

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He killed Metroman and there was nothing

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Basically, Sliver feels like Shi Chara doesn't need her because it's self-sustaining and self-improving at this point

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So...time for her to move on

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And did she informed the local group?

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Not yet

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A little before the big event

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And also, what would the reaction of others?

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Shock and confusion for the most part

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Some outrage, some acceptance, some thinking good idea, mostly just confusion

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The outrage from LE most likely and GDOT might be on the acceptance

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This would be a full broadcast beyond the group with even AV giving some help. All Iterators in the Rainlands will get a sudden message that Sliver has uploaded herself into a new body and left behind instructions for anyone else who wishes to do the same

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The big reveal for Sliver

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I mean, I have to give her a reason to want to do this and since no one has done it before she's scared what others would think if they catch wind

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Push back against the idea, actively send purposed organisms to stop her, message spam, the works

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So...best to stay quiet and work in secret

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At the very least, no direct neighbor to worry about and there's a whole stinking lake to drink from

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Also, this isn't really her being selfish

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As far as she can tell, the city is in a golden age and well on its way for cultural and scientific progress without her. She's really not needed locally, the entire sector is stable, there's no big world catastrophe at the moment...

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So rather than just sit there working on the "Great Problem" losing brain cells in the process might as well get off of her metal ass and LIVE

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Live like a scug saintunyoy

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Granted, she knows it's a one way trip and she'll be giving up a lot. But she'll be getting the chance to live freely

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No purpose other than her own, the fate of the world wouldn't rely on her, and she gets to be a person rather than a super computer

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SRS thinks the same centuries later because Alcenta saw the true scope of what could be unleashed and just how close they nearly blew themselves up like the old world did. As far as SRS is concerned, the Iterators outlived their purpose, the purpose they gave themselves, and the need for a bunch of old fools who are incredibly detached from the rest of the world

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That's a lot

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Sliver is the first to simply choose a life outside of "purpose"

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If other purposed organisms can choose to live, why can't an Iterator?

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Life doesn't need a "purpose" and she wants to live

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Sev meanwhile literally can't wrap that concept around her head. Sev NEEDS a purpose. She knows life isn't like that, but she has to rationalize that there is a purpose to do something

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Two different mindsets for two drastically different purposed organisms deciding to take fate into their own hands

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Anyway, while I'll avoid causing madness in the main chat how are things here?

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It's fine now cap

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Idk how did politics got there but it's finally pacified

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Time to shed off the excess coffee

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So...it just happened and while I'm glad it didn't explode, I really did not mean for it to go there

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Politics involving the setting, characters, and story is good. Real world...ha ha, ha ha, let's not

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Man, I don't even know politics

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I only know ideologies

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Anyway, looked at the Steam art page and saw a new inspiration for possibly different sector (how many can I squeeze into half a continent? Maybe 20?)

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Basically, four armed Slugcat was thr picture

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We already have the caramel lizards which have six limbs (look closely and you can see the extra legs), why not have a sector where the Iterators went a bit strange?

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Maybe I'll have a case example of this Kelly's oneshot with this individual being the gym teacher

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As a gym coach

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Hey, the Misty Isle is both a place people just live in and a place purposed organisms run to get a fresh start

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Not important, not really in the way for other nations to care about it, yet in the right place for the Iterators and secret societies to run to if needed for assignements

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So a four armed scug is a purposed organism and my mind telling me it's tyranids

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Also thinking something along the lines of them being their own civilization perhaps? One of the colonial holdings that got invaded and had to fight for independence probably...

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More like what happened to Latin and South America...

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That or the colonial holdings swapped due to foreign diplomacy

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I mean, can they hold off against powerful nations?

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My guess is a particularly strong invasion force came in. Maybe the Scramble for Africa style with machineguns and heavy artillery type of situation

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Iterators can't release the special weapons because they would fall into the hands of the invaders

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Victorian Era

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1800's

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Just like how the Anglo-Zulu war?

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The interior would make their stand due to the environment and tenacity but the coast would be lost

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They already know that they'll lost the battle then?

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I'm thinking along the lines of this being a Berman colonial holding

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And the Bermans in Fuga...have a very militant and narrow mindset

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Iterators and their organisms would cut losses and fall back into the jungles. Better to save lives than to face off against a navy. Now isn't the time to cross the Rubicon...

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How strong their navy are?

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Right now probably would be coal fueled or possibly early diesel (or their equivalents). Given this invasion would happen decades earlier, airship tech wouldn't be around but high explosives and decent early machine guns would

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Now I do have the mad idea of a submarine Iterator but either too busy elsewhere or they're on standby for Rubicon

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The way I'm seeing it, the Iterators in that group (tentative name being the Northeast Seacoast Sector right now) were more focused on establishing a civilization than having a team ready

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So...you have a xenophobic foreign nation invade, the purposed organisms are more to support the civilization as opposed to be ready for a situation, and said civilization is alien even by Rainlands standards

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As for why the Peninsula Sector (the ofgicial Iterators we know and love) has such a proficient military and secret society is because of different philosophies, the environment is far more wild, and the nation that went there is less violent

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Not as bad as what's to come under Kaiser, but definitely having an attitude and a superiority complex

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Also...the nation that colonized the Peninsula and which Ryan/Ruffles, Martin, and Artemis served under I'm thinking would be the Yorkshire Federation. I'm anxious about that though since Yorkshire is a real place, but not a nation...

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Don't worry, it's just all writing :)))

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(Also...would have a large population of Yorkshire Terriers and thus would be nicknamed "Yorkies" by the rest of the world)

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All right

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So...yeah the Berman Confederacy of the time expanded as a means of land grab and military might while the Federation decided slow expansion and mutual agreements with the local tribes

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Ah yes, the teaming up with natives to fight for their lands

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Well different places

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The Yorkies would be fighting more against the Outer Expanse than anything else so working with the locals would benefit all. The locals get a trade partner and advanced goods, the Yorkies get a slow expansion inland, and the Iterators don't have to worry about their stuff getting nabbed

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Up north meanwhile is a different story

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Also would give context for one of the kids aboard the Taranis...

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Aw man, Fuga is many slugscrem
But gonna watch it, coffee was used for house chores and writing now

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To be clear, this is my having funzies with the various lore plots and settings

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I'm also thinking a colonial holding a tad further north with a Megatherium kingdom getting nabbed as well who was on good terms with the neighbors

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At least they were before the foreign invasion came in and turned them into a colony

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So...basically I'm having the idea of an African Bush War in the back of my mind along with coastal raiders trying to take back their homeland

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Alright

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Lots of ideas now cap

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Too many...

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Indeed

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Did coffee (praise be the coffee) get to you?

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Stick to cameos Captain. You can explain the setting as you write other stories

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But you going to finish the oneshot first before the SoS, correct?

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SoS first, then oneshot

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I see, is it in wips now?

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Still

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Work on cap

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And can't wait for Fred to show us about Kelly :)))

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Yup

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I see, how's the art Fred?

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Good only coloring is left

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Nice saintunyoy

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Aight, hombres, gonna have me some siesta at night

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Later

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Well Fred, you don't have worry about drawing wacky four armed Slugcats anytime soon at least. Right now, I'm aiming to finish the first chapter of Saints (taking a long time I know, life has been interesting) and I'll have cameo stuff. Let the stories do the world building and all that jazz

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(though I feel like some one is gonna kill me for making that statement)

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Yeah past week threw me for a loop and a half so things are off

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Also...I'm back to playing Total War so that... STOP BLOCKING MY TRADE PORTS! I NEED THOSE YOU BASTARDS

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So aggravating that 90% of my money is going to repairs just so I can have money

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Warfare is complicated but I will achieve victory in the end

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So who would play what? Think FP would play Civ?

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I barely know like 2 RTS games

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So I don't know

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Besides the fact I need to focus on one thing at a time, thoughts about new civ I spontaneously added plus their issues?

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I'll again weave it into other stories like a merchant showing up in Saints or a gym coach for Kelly. But I feel like it really is showing just how expansive the Rainlands are as well as the world of Alcenta

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I just realized that you are Survivor now congratulations 🎊

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Yay

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My arm hurts from coloring

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Get caught in 240p -Kelly

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Though...he looks like he came out of Monsters Inc... Must be me

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I'll upload it later

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More of the grin for me. It's good, please don't take it the wrong way

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Another interaction with Lost Extinction. Apex shows up the goofy stinker.
Mountain Lake Group Encrypted Channel - Private Message
Sliver of Straw, Lost Extinction
LE: Yes Sliver, what is it?
SOS: Sorry to bother you, Extinction.
SOS: I know you’re busy with your city and personal projects so I’ll keep this brief.
SOS: You have a substantial genetic collection from around the world, correct?
LE: That I do.
LE: Though far from complete, I have one of the largest genetic banks in the entire world.
SOS: I have a new project that may require a great deal of genetic experimentation.
SOS: While my genetic banks are adequate, I wish to broaden my horizons and have as many options open as possible.
LE: A new purposed organism Sliver?
LE: My, my.
LE: This is supris-
LE: Apex!
SOS: Extinction?
LE: What are you doing in here you rodent?!
LE: No!
LE: I’m busy!
LE: There’s plenty of marauders on the border for you to drive off if you’re bored!
SOS: Apex got into your puppet chamber again and is trying to play with you, isn’t he?
LE: Just give me a minute Sliver.
LE: No, this is a private conversation.
LE: You can’t just barge in and interrupt me Apex.
SOS: How about a video feed?
SOS: I wouldn’t mind.
LE: Oh fine.
LE: One moment…

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Video feed connection established
LE:__ Sliver!__
SOS: Hello Apex.
SOS: How are you today?
LE: Hungry.
LE: Of course you’re hungry.
LE: You’re always hungry!
LE: Market won’t sell food.
SOS: Actually, I have a solution that might benefit us all.
SOS: Apex you remember Nimol and Dialect, correct?
LE: Friends still upset about kitchen?
LE: What did you do in Sliver’s city Apex?
SOS: They’re not angry Apex.
SOS: Just leave the cooking to them next time.
SOS: That being said, think you can deliver a package to them?
LE: I see where this is going Sliver.
LE: Send a list of what you want and I’ll send this incessant rodent over with a pearl.
LE: Food tomorrow if package delivered?
SOS: Yes Apex.
SOS: But you must deliver that package and be patient for the food.
LE: Package to friends, food after good job done.
LE: Understood Sliver, will go immediately!
LE: Apex wait!
LE: I haven’t even received the requirements to prepare the package you’re delivering!

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Underlined is Apex, regular is LE himself

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Nicely done saintunyoy

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Apex is already straight forward for the job to grab some grub

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They would do anything for food
Even charging blindly to enemy machinegun just to get some dinner

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Probably will get some more done over the course of the week. Will spend some more time editing to polish and the such. Not entirely sure what to do about AV being scary by existing...

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Current plan for AV, deliberately trips Sliver's alarms in a line to her puppet chamber despite nothing happening, "Inv" just chills on appearance, some dialogue with AV pulling the deliberate over the top eldritch terror appearance for giggles before getting serious, some explanations as to why Sliver is actually scared, AV supports her free will and then leaves to let her make a final choice

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What's the plan cap

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Get to the scene first since I'm still writing the chapter. Then write a draft I'm okay with and see what everyone's reactions are

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Maybe not everything, but definitely where AV makes his grand appearance and the paragraph explaining why Sliver is sweating bullets despite it being her cooling cycle

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A supreme god questioning a local god

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More along the lines of "so this is what you're up to... Interesting. So what's bothering you about?"

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AV is not malevolent and he really does have the best interests of the world at heart. And even with his insane power, he's still an Iterator so he understands how she feels

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Look, Sitter. Funny slugcat.” They pointed below the cliff. Two groups of scavengers who were separated and a fiery red slugcat with orange tips on its fur. But somehow their body begs to differ since he somehow looked a lot more like a lizard than a slugcat. For his body is stocky like a lizard, along with his hide that is covered by his fur but his head is mostly a slugcat. He has frills on his back tracing to his tail. He raised both arms to pacify both warring tribes.

He shouted something as if it made the scavengers calm, even though their eyes filled with fierce bloodlust and hatred as they stared at one another.

“Apex, I don't we should-” After that, Apex jumped onto a scavenger group. “APEX!”

“Helping funny slugcat!” They shouted gleefully. It made the slugcat-lizard look up, his eyes widened.

“NO!” As he yelled frustratingly and Apex landed on the scavenger group, tearing them apart.

As the chaos ensued again, the other scavenger group threw their spears at their assailant. The fight broke out again and the slugcat was in the middle of it.

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So what do you think how I write bout Three?

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Kinda hard tho since I don't really know his body structure and all sluggrimace

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Yeah I can see that happening. Mediator struggling to have peace talks work and then random third party just shows up and chaos happens. A bit comical but given how scatterbrained Apex is, I'd say it works.

As for Three, I'd say you nailed it pretty good.

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Also somehow Apex reminds me a lot of Caboose from Red vs. Blue. Has a brick for a brain, impossibly strong and powerful, and has his moments of both brilliance and utter stupidity

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Thanks

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Now I can sleep peacefully

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Night slugwave

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Night

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Okay so I got a bit mad at an unfinished fanfiction that I really liked so much in fact that I got enough determination to write something and that something was Enot having a very very bad day and I am quite surprised about how well it went i mean its still bad but still I really liked the experience it was very enjoyable which means there is a chance that I will write a fanfic for the Ackerson Family yippeeslugcheese

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Ooh!

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Nice saintunyoy

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After watching Zulu, I have the knowledge to create a one shot (which isn't rw) some native and colonial conflict

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Ever see "The Lion and the Wind"? Good movie that goes into the politics of colonialism and imperialism before the onset of WWI

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Yeah

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1975

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Ooh, gonna watch it soon

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Has inspiration of the 1904 Perdicaris Affair

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Oh boy, somehow old movies are better than new ones

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Another old movie that's great (and semi-relevant that this battle ended yesterday 181 years ago) is Gettysburg. Though...set aside a whole weekend night for that one

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Four hour movie...

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US Civil War battle

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More casualties than the entirety of Vietnam

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Ultimately changed the course of the conflict and showed the futility of bayonet charges

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Uh

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I mean, gatlings were made by that time

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So the Confederate plan after two days of heavy fighting on the flanks was to break the Federal line in the center

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Robert E. Lee, the Confederate supreme commander, thought one massive push would break the line and allow him to continue north, threatening DC and ending the concurrent Siege of Vicksberg along the Mississippi

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The problem with this plan? The Federal center was across an open field with massed artillery and some units shuffled back to a supposed "quiet sector" thus being reinforced

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I see

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Cap, you got a wide range for history

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12,500 Confederate soldiers were sent out after a two hour preliminary bombardment. The Federals held back on dedicated counter battery out of concern for an attack so they just took cover. The actual charge had to cover over a mile of open ground

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Roughly 7,000 Confederate soldiers would be casualties in killed, injured, or prisoners

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It effectively broke the Confederate army which was already stretching to the limit for manpower...and now they just lost thousands for no gain

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Just like how trench warfare lost thousands of men for only a few yards of land?

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Fifty years later at the Somme the British effectively did the same damn thing...60,000 dead for almost no gains

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Damn slugempty

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Modern factories, industrialized weapons, railways, the telegram, advances in medicine...the only thing that didn't modernize was the battlefield tactics

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Everyone was fighting like it was the Napoleonic Wars fifty years earlier. Except the rifles/muskets were longer ranged, more accurate, faster to reload, and had better ammo

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Gonna make some of the gunfighting in my oneshot, after the fifth chapter tho

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Since you mentioned Gatlings and let's throw the Maxim MG in there also, most official armies slept on those initially

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They saw the guns as expensive, cumbersome, finicky things that were untested and unsuitable for warfare. The colonial holdings got a hold of them instead and quickly found out just how effective these guns were

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Oh boy, Maxim mg

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Yeah

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The officers before WWI were bonkers... Treated war as a game and a "gentlemanly" affair

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Meanwhile the soldiers: slugempty

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Another old movie that goes to show how stupid this mindset is is the movie "Oh! What a lovely war" from 1969

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Listing some old movies

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The British and French chiefs of staff are playing around in England on Brighton's West Pier like it's a waterside carnival, complete with sunlight and cheery attitude. Meanwhile in the trenches it's the bloody Western Front in action

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Living in muddy grounds while laying down in the trenches just to get cover from sniper attacks

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And heavy, heavy artillery bombardments

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The funny thing about these old movies is that while lacking the special effects of today they feel...authentic???

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IDK, but they seem to have a lot more put into them because of their limitations

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I compared Starship Troopers with modern movies

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They aren't the same

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How about this one? All Quiet on the Western Front

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There's thr movie that came out two years ago

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The 1930 version was more faithful to the book and showed just how disconnected the civilians were from the actual battles

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Old movies do hit hard

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In the book and the 1930 version, Paul goes home on leave to visit his home. Everyone is smiling and treating him as if he's a hero. His father asks if he has fought in melee. His school teacher is giving the same speech from three years ago to ANOTHER group of dumb boys eager to serve the Kaiser. The gentleman believe the home front is worse than the trenches and debate where the Allies will break.

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The ONLY person he doesn't have an issue with is his mother who is concerned for him, gives him some food, and some clean clothes

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Ptsd was real but everyone ignored it as they saw it as cowardice

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Unfortunately...

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I show this a lot with Charlie actually who has probably a little too much tact

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It's obvious he's curious about what happened just before he was born. Who was Hannibal really? What did his parents do? What happened? He's just afraid of asking due to being insensitive and he doesn't want to make his parents uncomfortable

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Ryan has mixed memories. Some absurd stories and met good people but he was right in the thick of it

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And Sev is working hard to be a parent and not a purposed organism on assignment

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I mean, mentioning Hannibal would do something uncomfortable towards them

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As the saying goes, the family is a mess

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A non perfect, messy yet normal family

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Also, progress

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Thanks to coffee [praise thy caffeine] looked how it reached

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Looking forward to it

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Me too

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Coffee did the work slugcheese

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Praise Dadvulet and his coffee

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Hopefully, I'll bang out the first draft this weekend and get the AV scene going

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Then spend some time editing

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And soon after the 5th, gonna do some oneshots

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And hopefully I will make that Sliver of Straw drawing on time

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If you think hard enough everything can become coffee

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We reached to the state that coffee is the main source of making a cult

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And I know a thing or two of making a cult since I played Cult of the Lamb

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And now time to list the oneshot

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Wanna some context for the upcoming oneshot, cap?

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I'm like torn between the fact Rimworld Anomaly is a thing and the Cult of Sirius from X-COM Apocalypse right now

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The former you technically have to be a cult to deal with a mad Archotech, the latter you raid and burn their carpets with incendiary shells for money and to prevent them raiding you...

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Putting on some indoctrination

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Remind me how exactly this happened???

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Do I need to start preparing tax forms for a coffee cult or something????

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Along with Fred, of course

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Coffee made us to think better

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And despite writing the current fic, already thought the plan for the oneshot

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I haven't drank a single cup of coffee but just thinking about drinking a cup of one makes me think better

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That's how powerful it is

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Anyways I kinda felt bad for torturing enot yesterday so I decided to practice writing a bit more and give him a good day

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Putting aside me using him for AV, I do have to just wonder if he is the "Anti-Saint"

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Stuck in first karma (real)

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And downbad for every scug

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Hence "bedroom activity"

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I see Arti more of Anti-Saint then Enot

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My official version, the projection and avatar of an Iterator that breaks the fabric of spacetime and laughs at something as childishly silly as "quantum physics"

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Everyone else with Inv...

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Do I even have to go there?

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Aight, hombres, I'm gonna chill now, peace

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Toodles

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Bye

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As stated before, first Saints chapter will have a rough draft done this weekend. Also...ethical dilemma!!!! Yippee

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I mean, building a body for the sole purpose of taking it to live a new life. Who's to say that body couldn't be a person before Sliver takes it?

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I mean I could live a new life in a different body slugcheese

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Well that's the plan

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But is it right to deny said body the chance of being its own person???

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Most situations in Rain World, ignored because that's how the game goes. When you stop and think about it with real world ethics and philosophies...

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slugempty got me there cap

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(Oh by the way Anton? My most recent colony in Rimworld is absolutely brutal. I thought it was random I kept getting big animals self tame. Then I realize it's Randy screwing with me so they eat all my food before it can grow. He then gets the colony kid killed AND has toxic fallout raining chemicals on me in the middle of an arid landscape where my power can't keep up because I decided to do a village layout as opposed to a megastructure...)

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(In short I'm nearly starving, suffering from heatstroke around the clock, it's raining chlorine, the electricity is unable to keep up, and the storyteller is laughing his ass off)

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Average Rimworld experience

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I think I'll try a rainforest village next time if I want a village build. Valid excuse for the Rain World mod

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Now what about that Monster Hunter one??? Meh, later

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...Think Hunter would get along well with the Palicos in MH?

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Well that would be a oneshot challenge for the main chat...

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Oneshot soon but not rw

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Truthfully, Rain World Rot would be nothing to a MH hunter, especially a ranged one

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Sticky concussive explosives, cluster munitions, piercing rounds, explosive razor rounds, incendiary and cryogenic rounds, shotgun shells both long and close range...

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Melee would have a tougher time but they slice into hides that can swim in lava so they would hack a DLL apart...

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Rain World is Australia? The Monster Hunter is Fallout Australia

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Slugcat sees red lizard and runs for the hills. Monster hunter sees either an annoying pest or a worthy challenge for a new hat

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Hey Fred, I know you're a bit burnout from the art but I do plan to get the first chapter of Saints done by next week. Should I wait for ya or post regardless?

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Okay

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How goes your forrays into writing?

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Trust me, first time is almost always meh (I say almost because you sometimes get that one person who's just a natural)

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I have a giant headache today so instead I made a plan for the chapter

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Fair

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I was lucky enough to draw Sliver in the morning before I realized the headache was even there

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Mostly just wondering and trying to be encouraging

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Well thanks for the encouragement

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Yay

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I'll probably write I few more chapters and then see whether it's good enough to post on Ao3

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After rewriting the first few chapters of course

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Also, while down the line I do plan for an extra limbed Slugcat to make an appearance because why not. If you want to tackle that, I'll give the heads up and the Steam picture that gave me the idea

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Though multiple arms does remind me of an X-Men comic I read a while back: How much deodorant do you go through?

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But Sliver of Saints drawings first

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Everything else later

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Want me to go find the picture?

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For future reference?

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Sure

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Made by "synico" on Steam

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That looks cool

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Obviously I'll take my own liberties with the specific designs

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As for why an entire region is comprised of these guys...the Iterators up there were a bit loopy???

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Not intentionally and if I get called out I would apologize like there's no tomorrow

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I am sure you would anyways I should probably go to sleep a bit earlier so that I wouldn't have a giant headache tomorrow

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Allr right. Have a good night

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So before I do anything with the reveal of AV, thoughts here?

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Is AV really like prankster then transition into full serious?

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Yeah

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I started the conversation last night (my time) but haven't gone too deep into it

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I figured share the info I have first

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A tad after

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Didn't share the serious talk yet because it's not done yet and wanted to get impressions on what was

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I'm not really good at criticizing stuff slugpensive

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I feel like my "something is coming" was good but then it just strayed...

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Broke the rule of writing: show don't tell

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And did I tell...

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I mean, that's a lot of work

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About an hour give or take

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There's some good stuff, but like the others said I need to cut the exposition likely

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Yea

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Might need to reread one of my earlier things... I did cover an all seeing character with great influence before

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Here's a little update on the drawing for you guys.
Sliver is fully finished now Dialect too

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Dialect may be redrawn slightly tho

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Nice saintunyoy
And also, Fred, got some ideas for ocs of yours?

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Not yet but maybe I will start thinking about making one once I finish the drawing

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Nice

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Out of curiosity who's a bigger headache to draw? Chea or Nimol?

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My guess would be Chea because I don't draw scavs often though Nimol's armor can definitely be a headache

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Just was wondering

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This might be a "WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT BEFORE?!" thing, but the arms can retract into a bionic backpack for Chea. Though, I can definitely see them being out a lot since she assists in maintaining Sliver

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Okay

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Also side dumb thing about this project, it legitimately reignited my passion for history and the Total War games

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I always liked history (gee, I wonder why I chose my name???), but I'm finding myself actually curious about locations and time periods I haven't really considered before

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I'm more familiar with those time periods

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And it's obvious I'm more familiar with Western history such as Rome, Greece, some of the Crusades, and onwards

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Eastern?

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Not so much...which is a shame

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Despite I live in SEA, I barely study about the history of it sluggrimace

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Let me guess, the Western influence has taken more focus?

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Yes

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Of course...

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Only little history of my nation's history tho

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Mostly the revolution and the ww2 pacific theater

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Look, I'll admit Western history is fascinating. The Crusades leading up the the Renaissance, the Colonial period, Rome's rise and fall giving way to the Ottomons, the Industrial Revolution, the World Wars (speaking of, can we please have more coverage of WW1 besides Europe and Gallipoli? What about Africa? And what the bleep was Japan doing?! Yeah, they were involved so what were they doing?!)

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That they decided to ignore the league of nations and do their own thing

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But then you get the Japanese Warring States period, China's Three Kingdoms, the religious turmoil in India with the rise of Buddhism

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In the SEA, mostly the interesting things are Vietnam's holding off Mongol and Chinese Invasions and the colonization part

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I know more about the Latin and South American empires from pre-colonial era's than Africa and Africa had its own empires and nation states before Europe showed up

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(Not much but my point still stands)

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Indeed so

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But I find it funny that the Americans developed their pistol into something better after one specific war

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The 1911 Colt 45?

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slugcheese yes

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Weighs like a brick, kicks like a horse, and is a damn fine firearm

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But seriously, some beliefs are really strong that even a pistol shot won't hurt them

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slugcheese I just found that out why they changed their revolver into a semi-automatic pistol

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Faster to shoot and reload. Also more powerful than the 38 revolvers during the Spanish American War

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(Speaking of rather obscure wars... I honestly don't know that much about the American-Mexican War. I know more about 1812 which really was a minor sideshow in the Napoleonic Wars)

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Grand overall point of this is that there is so much that is just casually brushed aside which is a shame

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Revolution is a big thing of history here

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Obviously, you can't cover every single time period and place. But there is a lot that shouldn't be brushed aside either

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I mean, there's actually an important battle that literally decided the fate of Eurasia and it's never talked about

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A specific historian in a specific period

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True, but again even a broad level history class can do more

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I mean, after the Fall of Carthage Africa just disappears from history until the Colonial Era and then only is brought up again due to the Scramble for Africa in the latter 19th century

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(Also...the African Theatre of WWII kinda is overlooked a lot in mainstream WWII stuff also... Guys, why do we keep ignoring an entire continent???)

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Right...

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Anyway, I have some stuff I need to handle and will rework AV later

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I'd say my first chapter is nearly done, but won't be until later on. Womp... Oh well, more time for Fred to draw stuff

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That being said, I think it could either go faster or slower for future chapters because it'll be less Iterator focused...

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Anton, I will need assistance in making this civilization believable up close and personal (as in, walking down the streets)

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Gotta use the college brain for this slugpensive

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Cap, if I ask, is it the Khmer empire we talking about?

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Was thinking the one I was going to write. It'll be based on the Khmer though

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Alrighty, deep research it is. Sorry wiki slugpensive you're too predictable for sources

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And also I've done the 5th chapter slugcheese

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I noticed and left a comment

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Cap, if I gotta ask, care to hear of my upcoming oneshot?

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Sure

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This may not be rain world but remember that I mentioned about watching Zulus?
Well, native and colonial conflict.
A dashing young officer (from Innerus which I talked before) tasting his first battlefield along with his thousand troops, freshly trained and recruited. Meeting with his senior in the southern part of Kinneria (a beastfolk empire) and wage his first battle. Upon underestimating the tribal warriors, he lost most of his men and retreated back to their camp. Traumatized, new batch of soldiers coming through, and so the war continues.

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Sounds like it has potential

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Though...which universe is it in again?

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Original idea, got it

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I kinda find total war warhammer 2 the most inspired idea

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Hey, inspiration can come from strange places

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Nothing wrong with that

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After the 5th chapter, I must write it (despite there are plans for my future writing)
And I could conduct research of the Khmer empire

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Sure

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I could do multi tasking for a bit so I can't get too relax

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Again, hopefully rough draft of the first chapter will be done this week (and another chapter of Harmonic Symphony speaking on non-RW stuff)

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Right now I need to figure out how to have AV do his best Morgan Freeman impression...

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Morgan Freeman?

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AV as Morgan Freeman?

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So uh have you ever seen Bruce Almighty?

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Kinda familiar

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Tell me the context

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Basically, news anchor with the worst luck has issues with God

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God (Morgan Freeman) shows up and loans him power to see if he could really do a better job at the world

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Which does result in them just going places briefly

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Like from Bufalo New York to suddenly Mt. Everest

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I see, gonna watch the movie soon
Puts in the lists of movies spearwrite

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Basically, Morgan Freeman just teleports people to places to hold a conversation

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As for how the hell that is relevant, AV is taking Sliver on a walk through the markets of Shi Chara to get her to calm down and to start an actual conversation with her

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Sliver hasn't uploaded herself into the body yet, is still an Iterator, and really it's AV taking them on a projected trip

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An "out of body experience" mixed with an Overseer image so to speak.

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The citizens have no clue this is happening and truth be told, there really isn't anything there at all

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So they don't see Sliver and Abyssal taking a stroll in the market place?

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Nope, they're walking through people as if they were ghosts

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Ooooh

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The citizens are going about their day, they don't see Abyss or Sliver. Abyss is just giving a 3D tour via Google Maps in real time to Sliver

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But they do strolled down the streets, not some virtualization of the place

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The actual streets

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Plan is AV is trying to get Sliver to loosen up and to make her really understand the choice she is about to make

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Mostly because no one has done it before and living as a normal person is not the same as being an Iterator, something he understands entirely and doesn't have a damn clue about himself

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He's as detached from the Rainlands as possible because he IS the Rainlands. Sliver has a chance to actually live but she's going to lose everything that made her an Iterator

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And her descendant would be playing a piano

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We know that yes. She's trying to take the final leap

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Abyss isn't really judging, just looking in on this and offering advice and support.

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Whether or not she really wants to take that leap or not is not up to him, just her. He just wants to see what happens and make sure she makes the right choice for herself because this is the first time anything like this has happened

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Can't wait for that, cap slugcheese

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Also...Abyss learned of this little project of hers within a month of her starting it and it took six to have everything ready for her to upload herself

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No one else in the group knows about it, just that it's a new purposed organism

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So this is a bit silly...

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I decided to make a fictional civilization off of a Southeast Asian empire that is relatively obscure in mainstream history but I keep thinking Japan...

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Maybe I should play something besides Shogun 2 Total War

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So new colony in Rimworld. Can't get any Hunters or Survivors but I've gotten two Monks...

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Maybe this is how we get new ideas... Play Rimworld and aim to tame Slugcats and pray the nearby lizards leave me alone

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Minor update with the chapter. I think I'll have a first draft done in two days. Fred, care for one more potential picture to draw?

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One of two options, one is MUCH simpler than the other

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1: AV as Inv in Sliver's puppet chamber. Despite Sliver floating above and literally looking down at him, it's clear he hold the power and she's paralyzed in fear

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2: They are taking a stoll in the city market (AV as Inv and Sliver as Saint) with Sliver in shock at everything around her while AV leads the way

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Hmm interesting while the first idea is something I doubt I will be able to draw properly any time soon the second one is pretty good and doable

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Also in both cases, "Inv" may have his signature looks but at worst is smug and not disturbingly creepy

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The second one doesn't have that which is why it's easier

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Well...it is going to be a marketplace square. Different a lot of background characters, different clothes (or barely any at all) to denominate social status, guardsmen, kids running around, market stalls, stuff like that

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Hmmm

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Well if this helps: Laborer caste would barely have clothes or the absolute bare minimum, artisans and merchants are clothed but relatively simple, there is a priest who would be lavish, and guards would be guards

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Given the tech and social structure, I guess Renaissance Era armor mixed with Southeast Asian styles would work (unless Anton has objections to that)

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I will see what I can draw with concept when I will have some free time

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Okay

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Gonna give you guys an update on the progress of the drawing before I go to sleep. I am almost finished with Chea after that the only thing that will be left is adding details also I'll probably won't color it since I don't have a Khaki colored pencil

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I just realized I haven't really described the body Sliver will inhabit. If anything, it's just "the body" right now...

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I know two (three?) weeks ago I spitballed an idea but should I give an actual breakdown or wait until I edit the chapter?

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I can wait until you start editing the chapter

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Okay

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Here's the first glimpse of my oneshot i've been working on this is not rw

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“Land ho!” One of the sailors at the crow’s nest shouted from above to inform their fellow crewmates. They were prepared to disembark to the shores. Soldiers lining up on the deck as they were counting. Sailors began to do their work for the landing. The morale of the men were high as they were ready to invade against their assailant.

“Christon?”

“Sir.”

“221 David?”

“Sir.”

The quartermaster began to check on the names of their men on his notebook to be accounted for.

A young officer walked towards the quartermaster, feeling proud as he saw the shores from afar getting closer and closer. “Good day, Officer Ivarik.”

“Good day, to you too. Officer Liamson.” He greeted back as he kept on counting the men on the deck.

“Fine day to slay some beast after two weeks of voyaging, eh?”

“To destroy the filthy mutts once and for all?” He turned back again to the soldiers. “351 Peter.” One of the soldiers responded back.

“You know it. I can't believe that these beasts decided to wage war again after twenty years.” He laughed as he pulled out his sabre, inspecting it with admiration. “What do you think will happen next?”

“They'll get destroyed like before.” He replied. “Johan?” Another response.

“Soon, I’ll show off my father, the head of the wolfmen. To be displayed on the wall of our family manor, to show off how we slaughter them like the animals they are.” He spoke boastfully as he already imagined the outcome. Flag raised high behind him, the sound of cheering and victory of his first battle, the enemy turned tail and ran away.

“Soon, Officer Liamson.” He nodded as he kept checking his notebook. “418 George?”

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Seems good to me

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Gonna borrow some references from Zulus

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And it will be a long day for the 6th chapter tho slugpensive

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How's yours cap?

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Again, going a tad slow but I'm getting there

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Keep thinking Shogun 2 Total War for a mix of early gunpowder and classical melee fighting

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Which shogun 2?
Fall or rise of the samurai?

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Have Fall and base game

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I see

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Despite not knowing the gameplay, I only watched some clips for the sake of battles and such

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And even the units strength and specialties

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Base is definitely more "classical medieval" while Fall is the sudden shift of overwhelming industrialization

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Gonna watch the levies shooting down some professional warriors slugcheese

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Katanas and spears have their place, but it's clear that a proper army of muskets and artillery with overwhelming fire will mow them down

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The gatling gun would do the trick

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Outside of sheer numbers and quality troops that won't break, muskets will typically win

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Though, a combo is advised since counter melee is advisable

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What about the shogitai?

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Advise the same really but if you really want to stick to tradition, fight smart

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Gonna use those good gunpowder weps slugcheese

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Archers actually outrange most muskets, all melee troops are superior in close quarters, and sheer volume of close quarters can overwhelm firing lines

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The only drawback is that you will lack proper artillery

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I mean, artillery are only use by siege, right?

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And as I learned heavily, Fall of the Samarai is probably the best case of a Total War game where navies matter

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Ever see Empire or Napoleon?

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Standard cannon balls in those games can soften targets and shred cav, cannister turns the cannons into shotguns, howitzer can get explosives and quicklime (AKA chemical shells)

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Rockets...actually work better in naval battles

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Though I never experimented in massed rocket teams so IDK about those

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So late in the tech tree I don't bother usually

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Grapeshot slugcheese

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Though in Fall of the Samarai, wooden cannons are crap, Parrot Guns have explosives by default (which a single battery can kill HUNDREDS from half across thr map), and naval bombardment can shred forts

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And lord help you if you don't control your coasts like I did

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I had over 10 provinces and was barely making 500 gold per turn because everything was shelled to hell and back by roaming navies

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My income was so bad because it kept getting blown up every time I rebuilt it

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Rome 2 may have allowed amphibious invasions, but Fall of the Samarai made the naval warfare actually relevant

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Harassing on your economy?

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Farms, mines, ports, everything was free game because I didn't build a navy early game

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Which was ironic because I was the naval specialist faction

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Womp

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As for how any of that matters for Saints, again the mix of swords and spears with the advent of matchlocks

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The coming of the gunpowder weapons is imminent

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But bad thing I can't research properly without wifi slugpensive

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Well in the streets of Shi Chara, matchlocks are reserved for either the elite guards or the very wealthy who can hire and outfit personal retainers of such quality

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As for why no pulse rifles in the hands of purposed organisms it would be beyond overkill, difficult to mass produce, and better reserved for assignments that need such firepower

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Though the purposed organisms and carefully built secret armies (such as the Order of Lady Sliver for example) would have emergency caches of industrial grade weapons (revolvers and bolt actions)

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Easier to make, easier to explain to the general public, easier for raised armies to grasp, and easier to maintain

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If the Iterators need to call upon the locals for an emergency army draft, a bolt action is simple to mass produce, can be sturdy to survive the elements, and easier to train with

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But the matchlocks are still intact?

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That or something like the Sharps Carbine (single shot falling block carbine)

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Though, still temperamental given their nature and the weather

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So crossbows, archers, and javelins would still play a roll

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Never thought I would see that

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Like Spanish conquesitadors

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(Actually now that I think about it, yeah a group like the Order would have tailor built single shot rifles like from the American Civil War period but only purposed organisms would get the really good stuff at least until average tech catches up)

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Also...local tribes would still be doing their own thing

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Would local tribes raid for a weapon that spits fire?

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Some may trade for muskets, others outright steal them, but many would still throw a spear

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Would depend on which sector also...

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I see

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The Mountain Lake has to protect its borders from warlike tribes

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The Penninsula is less tame and thus the power of a purposed organism is far more pronounced, respected, and feared. Tribes are still going to clash but are more willing to respect powerful and charismatic individuals who can form a confederation

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Can't wait for it, cap slugcheese

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Then when proper colonies are set up, either civilizations are forced to retreat deeper into the Rainlands and Facility Grounds or be assimilated while the tribes confederate to either resist or provide a buffer

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Spain conquered the America's by conquering the civilizations there. France and Britian didn't have that luxury so they had to build up the old fashioned way

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With neighbors...who had different opinions on who the new folks on the block were

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Current idea is that the Mountain Lake is a powerhouse for a time, but a bit isolated and has issues on its borders with aggressive tribes who want the wealth. The Penninsula is mostly wilderness but has a network of alliances going on. By the time colonies pop up, the Mountain Lake is probably behind the tech curve as a civilization and far from the coast while the Peninsula navigates thr politics of slow moving expansion

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The colonies down there are close to the coast and more interested in working with the tribes rather than fighting

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Besides, why fight against the tribes alongside a rainforest/jungle filled with disease and predators? Slow and steady works better in that regard and being friends benefits all while allowing land transfers to happen smoothly

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Yup

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And tends of distrust mostly happens

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But gotta make the sandugo pact with the natives

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The Estuary meanwhile...Berman invaders who steal a sizable chunk of the civilization and have a nasty attitude, forcing them to modernize fast and wage constant border bush wars

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Ah yes, conquering slugcheese

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As for the River Valley...civilized and actually progressing due to being a direct neighbor to a certain Mechlord Vampire

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(Hey, he needs homogen and doesn't want to "eat" his own citizens so having neighboring Iterators who make the stuff artificially and guard his southern border as friends works great. Just send some goodies of his own to keep the alliance up)

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Diplomacy saintunyoy

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Rainlands are complicated

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Even without the Iterators, there is trade, tribal and civilized politics, diplomacy, trade, and inteigue

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Looks like battery ran out

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Along with the coffee energy saintstare

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Time to que the Good Morning song

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Anyway, gonna sleep cap slugwave

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Good morning

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Good morning to all

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I know Anton is asleep now but I think I just thought up the most "Rain World" gun possible and explain why Slugcats/Scavengers would have a "pulse rifle." So...encase the frame with shed centipede scales, power block would be some kind of organic battery built to withstand abuse and the elements, and the mechanism that shoots would be a mechanical version of the Miros Vulture laser

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The gun isn't really "alive." More like it pulls a Monster Hunter and the only "living thing" is the battery/ammunition pack

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Thoughts?

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That or I go all in and make a biopunk rifle that is essentially the Miros Vulture laser...

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Do the they shoot bullets or the same how the Miro Vulture shoots?

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Miros Vulture

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Figured something high tech but not the Rimworld pulse weapons

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(Leave those to Alejandro)

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Living batteries, just like that one wep in half life 2?

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Maybe??? Haven't played Half Life games...

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Idk what it calls but it shoots homing bugs at the enemy

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Well, figured a bio-laser rifle is pretty Rain World

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So those would be the best weapons the purposed organisms can field if things go bad

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High class weaponry

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So uh...do I go the Monster Hunter route with metal and organic bits or a biopunk gun with metal reinforcements?

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Either way, a Miros Vulture laser as small arms

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Idk what monster route looked like but kinda okay with biopunk

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Monster Hunter has a LOT of weapons...

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Like...chainsaw katana

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Big hammer saintunyoy

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Switch axe is something...

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How about a hammer where the head is a revolver cyclinder...that shoots rounds when you hit things with it

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Not a gun, a hammer

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Interesting

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There's also a rocket powered dragon

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Fully biological and naturally evolved

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Valstrax is awesome

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I may not know everything in monster hunter but I like the one who turned into a big puff

slim glade
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There's a few that do that

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That bat

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Speaking of the "character is approaching rapidly" joke in the main chat, I have an idea for Ruffles with that

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Make the guy on the box art Ruffles instead during his army days

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Then you'd have a reason to RUN

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Rivulet with the bayonet charge and oh! He struck someone with it

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Alongside Artifcer as well