The Cradle

[strong lark]

@misty moth done :3

[misty moth]

Oh! Thanks! ^_^

[strong lark]

np

if you need anything pinned as well (like a directory to important posts) feel free to ping one of the staff or DM @verbal locust

[misty moth]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NC00-0nFZoQxba_Alcv0BVcC4CdIJLdNkkjClvRFpec/edit?usp=sharing

Its still a WIP

[misty moth]

I'd like the Google Doc pinned please ^_^

[strong lark]

:3

[misty moth]

Thankyou! ^_^

[blazing berry]

(Haven’t finished yet) sick formatting

I think I would appreciate a little more spacing around the edges and between speakers. But damn I can the effort you put in

Also this took a sudden turn with ||the iterator not-so-suddenly threatening their administrator…|| very interesting… now I continue :3c

[misty moth]

Thanks! I'm thinking about rewriting stuff, its all a bit WIP, but I think I have the general plot threads there, just need to refine and add things

[blazing berry]

Holy shit this iterator

||actually scary interaction with their admin ngl||

[crystal star]

Shit. I had the exact same idea.

[misty moth]

Oh! oh oh oh

@strong lark Could you please pin the map above?

[misty moth]

Its version 1, and thanks ^_^

[strong lark]

:3

[blazing berry]

Still reading but I’m really invested in this

It’s building up this sense of… discomfort as it goes. Unease. I wonder if that’s intentional?

[crystal star]

At this point, I don’t care much about being “original”, but it’s quite a shame that we had the same idea.

If Banan likes it, I do believe I will, too.

[misty moth]

Not quite? But tbh I'm glad it makes you feel something. I mean, this is just the first part, the real point of the story I want to write is Post MA

[crystal star]

And thus, I may or may not take reference from this.

[misty moth]

Though I like the characther devellopment. Go ahead! ^_^

Also here is an earlier version of the map, thats less pretty but annotated. I should get around to completing the V2 of my map

[devout tangle]

Ohh, this looks interesting on first glance. Will dive into the doc tomorrow after university;3

[crystal star]

I shall enjoy this later, when I have time.

[blazing berry]

||aww, they finally get a sibling/peer to connect with and they’re like ‘nah I’m good’ rip||

[crystal star]

I’m interested to see how others create ||Iterators against their creators||.

[misty moth]

||Untamed Glory isint really Against their creators per se||

[crystal star]

||I mean, they’re definitely against the abandonment of their kind.||

[misty moth]

||Not quite either. I mean in a sense yes, but thats more of a byproduct||

[blazing berry]

Aauuugh this was good. I love digging into iterator’s complex feelings about purpose and their future, it’s what I do in my thing, it’s my favorite thing to read in others’ and your writing here is really hitting that for me

||I gotta know what happened||

||What was their plan exactly?? Can’t wait for more 👀||

[misty moth]

it gets pretty insane, but I dont want to spoil. This isint really a hint, but I think I can show one thing

Was inspired by other Symbols from the passages in the game and made this one for UG

Its a fusion of 2 regular symbols

If someone can figure out which two, I might share the meaning I've decided to give it :p (Which I decided on after making the symbol, but it kindof, feels right to me)

[blazing berry]

I’d have to look at the symbols…

I will later :3c

Love what you’ve got so far keep it up!!

Make sure you link it in #stories-library★ along with the thread so people don’t miss it!

[broken adder]

Survival and.. martyr?

[misty moth]

Exactly!

Persistence

[devout tangle]

Holy

I am unsure if I understand what Untamed Glory's plan is but sheesh. ||The posthaste creation of three fields to stop a crisis, glory finally complying with the new addition despite the many bellowing up issues in the cradle. Six Facet really did everything to prevent this crime against the iterators. If their actions were good in a void is to be determined but damn! ||
I am beyond curious what you have in mind here. I am not the best in interpreting intentions but I can sense a highly interesting development once mass ascension has concluded,

[crystal star]

I read this all, and although I’m pleased by the work itself, I am less so by the fact that we have independently come up with insanely similar ideas.

I also have some evidence that we had independently created the ideas - #1192290858997928006 message - this is my “work’s” first debut.

No, it isn’t Disconnected, rather, it was first pitched as a solid idea there.

I’m not asking you to stop writing - as a matter of fact, it’s quite the enjoyable piece to read.

Just that in the extremely unlikely event that someone points the eerie similarities between the concepts, tell them we independently stumbled on near-identical ideas.

[misty moth]

||Also I should note, Facets considers it a crime against the Ancients primarily||

I have a bit more logs I am writing in to part one and some general cleaning up to do before I continiue which should hopefully clear things up a bit

[devout tangle]

Ah, I understand. But have I gotten the rest correctly?

[misty moth]

Pretty much yes 🙂

[blazing berry]

||did they trap the ancients somehow? I’m almost imagining an eco bubble for protection/isolation lmao|| - completely wild guess

What did they doooo. Mystery

[misty moth]

wdym

[blazing berry]

Just theorizing on what they built/what their plan is

[misty moth]

Oh, their plan only starts at MA

UG states themselves that they cant stop it

[blazing berry]

Gotcha. Hmm

Guess I will have to wait and see :3c

[misty moth]

I think I have finished up writing part 1! Though feedback and constructive criticism is welcome

[misty moth]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NC00-0nFZoQxba_Alcv0BVcC4CdIJLdNkkjClvRFpec/edit?usp=sharing yeah upon reflection, I'm making this officially part 1 and moving forward with the story! There are some minor edits to previous sections but mostly a couple of new dialogue

[misty moth]

(okay small change to part 1, and I am currently working on part 2, but I changed the Mass Ascenscion date because I was wayyyyy off)

[misty moth]

Man, writing part 2 right now. I felt like posting this because its making me feeeeeel... Which I theoretically a good thing :p

(obviously spoilers for part 2)

[blazing berry]

Ahhh what’s gonna happen

[misty moth]

||UG's talking about Mass Ascenscion here||

[blazing berry]

ohhhHHH

more than I think you can conceptualize

Fucking oof. Good shit.

[misty moth]

^_^ Thanks

[blazing berry]

yw keep cookin

[devout tangle]

Damn, this is good! Glory, the troubled oracle.

[misty moth]

My writing productivity is through the roof today, I think I might be able to finish part 2 today

[blazing berry]

More food soon?

[misty moth]

Yup, though Part 2 may be a little shorter but-... Itll be good

[misty moth]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NC00-0nFZoQxba_Alcv0BVcC4CdIJLdNkkjClvRFpec/edit?usp=sharing Part Two of THE CRADLE is complete!
( Seperate document for only part 2 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ELHIQbth35HjHSCYOC6V-5P9y834Xd_8PrwJHAEPJgw/edit?usp=sharing )

[misty moth]

tbh I feel I exhausted myself writing today

[blazing berry]

Food has arriven

I eat

[misty moth]

Please tell me what you think when you eat!

^_^

[blazing berry]

Definitely recommend separating out each part into different docs! I was confused I had the wrong link for a moment

But now I eat :3

[blazing berry]

OKAY

||was the disaster an earthquake? I was a little confused at this part because it almost seemed like it was part of the plan at the end of the last chapter||

But ohhhh ||Mass ascension. Brutal. This hurt :’c you captured the different emotional reactions of these Iterators very well. Poor fields…||

[misty moth]

||The disaster is the rains happenning to the valley for the first time. Nobody (exept glory and facets) was expecting it so it kindof destroyed everything||

[blazing berry]

Ohhh I see

Interesting. So the ||rains didn’t gradually increase, it was sudden flood… that’s terrifying||

[misty moth]

||Yeah, the rain from the rest of the world was held back by the mountains for awhile ||

[blazing berry]

Brutal

I really enjoy your writing, it’s very emotive

[misty moth]

I'm happy I got ||Mass Ascenscion|| across well though. And thank you! ^_^

[blazing berry]

I’m gonna give this whole thing a reread soon with that in mind

||MA|| is one of my favorite things to read and write about

It’s such a devastating concept ;—;

[misty moth]

It isss

[blazing berry]

Well handled here thanks for writing this fic it’s lovely!

[misty moth]

I’m honestly a bit worried that nobody is interested in my writing so I appreciate your interest a lot @blazing berry it means a lot to me. I think I am having too much anxiety about it though

[blazing berry]

I feel this, writing and putting you stuff out there is vulnerable, and when it feels like it’s not resonating it can hurt

I’m not sure why some things here (and elsewhere) get more attention than others, but I think part of it is luck, since certain concepts and styles will draw particular people. Gotta get the right eyes on it

[misty moth]

Yee. I plan on re-releasing parts 1 and 2 on the fanfic website once I get into it because I feel people might see it more there aswell? Otherwise the most I can do is keep going and putting it out there

[blazing berry]

I believe

I do wonder if the formatting might be putting some people off? I think it’s really cool, but it is different

People have weird dealbreakers sometimes

I like it though… it’s unique. I feel like it would be a shame to change it

[misty moth]

Hmm, maybee. And yeahh I like the formatting too

[blazing berry]

Alsooo some speculation. ||Cradle makes me think of a birth/rebirth, of some kind? Maybe of the Iterators or as in like a new era. Hmm. And ‘no apotheosis’… rejection of ascension? A fall from (divine) grace? HMMMM what are you planning??||

[misty moth]

Well, the Valley is called Cradle valley because its one of the cradles of ancient civilisation.... ||Though that dosent mean it dosent have symbolism beyond that||

For ||The project|| though

Thats all I'm willing to say for now :p

[blazing berry]

!!!

chews on this symbol

Doesn’t taste like anything idk

[blazing berry]

Charbomber is looking to review swap over in stories-discussion :3c

[misty moth]

Thanks!

[shell estuary]

Oh yeah @misty moth how much should I read until I give my review?

[blazing berry]

omfg this is so much better to read on PC haha

the mobile formatting is... not as nice

[misty moth]

I mean, I'd suggest you read all of it in a sense, I'm probably not going to release part 3 for a little while because its going to require some work 😅

[blazing berry]

it's 10k words not too bad :3c

[misty moth]

But if you want a signpost, between part 1 and part 2 would make logical sense aswell

[shell estuary]

Okay, I wasn't sure if I should just read like a bit of the start then give my thoughts so far or if I should read the whole thing and dump a big review or what

[shell estuary]

Okay I have reached Part 2

I should probably give my thoughts so far?

Lemmie formulate a review real quick

I have plenty of notes but I need to put them together to make an actual review.

The start confused me for a few reasons, one of them being that the conversations were structured like chatlogs and I didn't realize they were real-world conversations until later.
Also, this is totally a nitpick, but the intro feels very slightly worded weird. I don't think you really just say you're 'getting into politics', y'know? Okay sorry I have a few nitpicks like that which you don't have to listen to they're just small things.

The font choice is kind of weird and funny, you only use like exclusively display fonts lol. Technically that's a bad thing but I don't blame you if you don't care and that's like the kind of thing I would do on purpose because it's fun anyways so it's whatever.

[misty moth]

(this ofc started as a iterator logs esque things but scope grew a bit)

[shell estuary]

Actually a good few of these notes are just random nitpicks so I'll skip the unimportant ones

I had a note that just says "The premise of this story so far is cool."

That's because it is! It's cool.

Before I got into the Iterator stuff I had a note talking about how interesting it is to have this Ancient who is so okay with an iterator that breaks taboos like that, and how I kind of wish I could see the history of them.

In-universe that's like if a guy walked up to you and was like "Have you reconsidered your opinions on murder? I think murder is fine actually in some situations" lol

I had a nitpick on how one time earlier in the story the main guy (I forgot their name oops) said just "our currency" which doesn't make a whole lot of sense in-universe. But also I don't blame you for not wanting to make your own name for it.

Um I just have a note here about how the pettiness of UG is funny, which isn't very insightful but sure

Oh right, and one time UG says that the Solution is... "Thermodynamically" impossible??? What does that mean?

I mean I know the literal meaning of the word but like it doesn't make a lot of sense in the context I think.

[misty moth]

Not the solution, living forever is impossible, thermodynamically speaking

[shell estuary]

Oh I musta misread it then

that's a lot more fair

[misty moth]

(and or my writing is a bit hard to follow, which I have been told is a bit the case)

[shell estuary]

The biggest nitpick I have listed here is how every time you want a character to say something like "Oh my god" or "What the hell" they replace the respective words with Void and Rubicon. That's really funny but doesn't make much of any sense at all in-universe if you care about that, so it depends on if you care more about it being funny or it making sense.
If you want a pointer (if that is a thing you'd want to change), try to write around using those phrases (god knows I've had to plenty of times, it's actually a bit of a fun exercise) or think of what kind of alternative phrases they would have.
Also, I don't think they know what Rubicon is.

Aaaand that's all my notes for now.

[misty moth]

I'll have to think about that, though to me that starts getting into the territory of "technically they wouldent know how to speak the english language" in a sense. I'll keep that in mind tho

[blazing berry]

I don't have iterators curse, with the specific exception of "damn/damned" very rarely

I try to use phrases instead, with one example being [exasperatedly] "void sea beneath"

[shell estuary]

Yeah if I list something as a 'nitpick' that means it's usually like a "eh this is something you should probably be aware of but if I were you I wouldn't care enough to change anything over it" kind of thing

[blazing berry]

I feel like ancients would be petty enough to give iterators profanity taboos (this actually comes up in this work though later!)

[misty moth]

TBH, I kindof wrote the prologue after writing much of part 1, to give more context and presence to facets as he became more of a main characther. I hope it makes sense in his charactherisation? I tried giving him a bit of a progression if that makes sense

[shell estuary]

Yeah it does

(still super interested in their backstory though...)

[misty moth]

I guess a sidenote for myself while i'm here for anyone who is interested- You can read this work in a sense as me trying to detangle my own psyche, in a sense. Mainly, the work has a lot to do with who I am, and how I see the world, and coming to terms with some things. I write most of the main chracthers with "my voice" though different aspects of it? None of them "are me" per se, but, yeah

[shell estuary]

Honestly I think I kinda had that vibe from it already???

The UG dialogue felt too 'experienced', I dunno.

[misty moth]

UG is definetly the most "me" of them all

[shell estuary]

...hm.

Did not expect the sudden career pivot from Iterator to DJ LOL

What's that one video of Motzart being played over some big concert? I imagine it's something like that.

[misty moth]

or hatsune miku

[shell estuary]

Damn they really did make spirit bullets

that Buddha Blast

[misty moth]

What? wdym XD

[shell estuary]

Megidolaon their asses

[misty moth]

Oh I assume they have some kind of weapon somewhat analogous to a gun. I mean miros vultures

[shell estuary]

Well yeah but I assumed the end result of a weapon being used in the big ascension thing is well... ascension.

Or are they like

just killing people to... 'cycle' them? idk

however the cycle works in Rain World

they respawn someone and then they collect them

is that what's going on?

[misty moth]

The firing here is more to stop the mob

[shell estuary]

right okay

[misty moth]

Not to ascend them. But like you fire on the protesters

[shell estuary]

I thought what was going on is they straight up just made some kind of weapon that just ascends you straight up

like some kinda... void grenade, I dunno

that's why I said they were spirit bullets lmao

[misty moth]

NGL at one point I did think of using void fluid hoses for that kind of scene but explaining the logistics of that would be like

More difficult to convey

[shell estuary]

I'm sorry this is cartoonish LOL

[misty moth]

YEahhh I dont exactly disagree there lol. I had to convey just how much of an A-hole this guy was though

[shell estuary]

I don't think you really had to personally, just the fact that they are doing this without any sort of remorse is enough.

[misty moth]

Fair. TBH I think ill prooobably change that

[blazing berry]

agreed

sometimes not showing things is best, you can trust the reader to understand

[shell estuary]

I think Simon has shown to already know that from the rest of this lol

that's a thing I should've praised it for but forgot to I guess

it's good at leaving implications around

me likey

[blazing berry]

yes there are quite a few mysteries here c:

still so curious about the plan...

[misty moth]

@shell estuary Do tell if you get to the end of part 2 and have adittional notes btw- Though you dont have to, I'm going to have to try re-reading the cascades :p

[shell estuary]

Oh yeah I got to the end and didn't have much of anything else to say

[misty moth]

Is it good? lol

I mean thats more up to taste

[shell estuary]

yeah it is

[misty moth]

BTW what do you mean by display fonts?

[shell estuary]

Right, I'm a font nerd so I know this

basically

there are two kinds of fonts

There are Display Fonts and then... regular fonts I guess I forgot the exact name for it

But basically

It's assumed that Display Fonts should mostly only be used for titles and logos and stuff.

Because they're the fancy fonts you use for that kind of thing

non-Display Fonts should be for everything else that's readable

that's the general rule of thumb

If you want to go against that, that's fine, but that's a thing you gotta remember to keep in mind.

I remember I learned that from this one videogame that used a display font as it's normal textbox font and it became impossible to read lmao

This font right here is a perfect example of that IMO

[misty moth]

Thats... Fairrrr. I mean I like fancy fonts though and I kindof wanted to gie each of the characther recogniseably different fonts in a sense

I tried picking them to be more readeable too

[blazing berry]

it might deter some readers, but I do kinda like it

have to decide how much you care about things that may put people off

[shell estuary]

Yeah that's why when I give feedback like that I try to say "It's fine if you don't want to"

You gotta know the rules to break them

If you have a valid reason to keep it, keep it

and you certainly have a valid reason to

[misty moth]

Thanks ^_^

[wooden thicket]

Just read ||the activation of Three Fields and HALP - for a time of crisis their interaction is hilarious. Poor Fields though, they weren't ready for any of that. Fitting for their acronym to be TF||

[misty moth]

Ehehe, I am glad you seem to be enjoying it! and yeah ||Three Fields has it rough||

I cant deny I can see it being read as funny, hehe

[misty moth]

I'm still working on part 3 BTW, but I think part 3 will probably take the longest. I think I might start releasing smaller chapters in a sense aswell? I'll have to see what works

[misty moth]

Yeah now that we are post MA, there is definetly going to be a change of pace, I feel.

[blazing berry]

I’m down for shorter chapters!

Whatever you wanna give/whatever flows best

[misty moth]

@strong lark Pin Please! Also YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GLORY REFSHEEEEEET!!!! Thanks Drymm!!! ❤️

[high lynx]

Daaaamn they are dripped out

[misty moth]

Yeeeee I love it! ^_^

[wooden thicket]

THEMMMMM

[strong lark]

cool design!!

also 📌 done

[misty moth]

Part 3.1 of the Cradle!: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M3cMNnYTkzP57KG8AWsdVhhR8mtP7C4T3knWMfpeTiQ/edit?usp=sharing

[misty moth]

If any if you have read the most recent part I am open to feedback ^_^

[rancid salmon]

ok i only just started and right now i finished the confrontation log and that one was so cool??? the fact that glory only|| held back because they wanted an apoligy|| is such a cool idea. right now i really really like it and now i will continue reading

[rancid salmon]

|| Most damaging path received.|| and || Thankyou for your cooperation.|| really hurt
Fields isnt the only one ||sobbing ||right now. Shes also my favourit so that dosnt help either

||Well then. It seems like we will be having some nectar together after all.||

Ok first one is done and it was soooooo good????
Also man that was a lot, i took a bit longer because i had breakfast in between but the quantity did not affect the quality whatsoever. Cant even imagine that this was only part of out of three right now so im excited to continue

||also give my girl flields some happiness or else ||

ah no wait im dumb i already read part two
then i will just start with part three

[rancid salmon]

||maaaannn give my girl some happiness||

but on a more serios note i cant state how much i enjoyed all of this up until now. While i have been whining in my responses all the time right now this is actually my ecxact cup of tea. i really like anything disturbing and traumatising (of course not all, duhhh) and the way you wrote the ||Mass Ascencison|| just scrachted my brain in all the right palces.

I was just reading it and couldnt believer all that was happening???

So massive kudos that was really really good

[misty moth]

Yooooo!!! Thankyou so much!! 😊😊😄😄

(Just woke up, I’m really happy you are enjoying it! ^_^)

[rancid salmon]

man i wish i just woke up, instead i can go to work for the next 9 hours

and i still have to write sth today. i will come home at 8pm and then i still have to meet my daily writing quoata

well not have to but its still a goal i set for myself

[blazing berry]

Sorry for being so late! Just read

||poor fields oh my goodness. Someone please give baby a hug she needs it so bad||

This was angst: the chapter and tbh I’m here for it

Angst: the chapter: part 1

I like how you’ve got a ||system of checks and balances going for this bioengineering-reliant construct of glory’s…|| still so curious about what his plan entails. There are certainly ||unique challenges when building machinery that uses organisms for much of its processes…||

[misty moth]

I finally have my Archive account! I'm a bit busy this weekend, but I'll probably be reposting The Cradle there aswell. I think I'll still be working on Google Docs aswell because I want to keep a version with the original formatting aswell

[blazing berry]

Congrats!!!

I’ll try and nab that first kudos

[misty moth]

Thankyou! I think I may ask for help writing a summary though, at least- If any of you have suggestions on how to summarize it I would appreciate it. I'm pretty bad at that kind of thing 😅

I have a multi hour car drive to think it through though

I need to condense a few bullet points, I feel. How much to say withought spoiling too much is also a thing

[blazing berry]

Happy to help

Will have to wait till I have time to sit down though

[misty moth]

Summary:
The Cradle follows the story of three Iterators through time. Written as a chat log, it is a meditation of existential topics, the analysis of one’s own psyche and simply the relation between three people put in exceptional circumstances.
The defining characteristic of life is the will to maintain its own existence.
[While all dialogue is written in chat log formatting, that doesn't necessarily mean that all dialogue is a chat log]
[Major Spoilers for Rain World]

Does that work as a summary?

[misty moth]

I need some feedback here 😅

Well, may be getting some feedback from elswhere and start working on putting it up on the archive then

[high lynx]

Seems good to me

[misty moth]

Thank you Piotr ^_^

[rancid salmon]

broad enough to not spoil but still enough to make one interested, should work just fine

[blazing berry]

No notes I think it’s good!

I honestly don’t think you need the spoiler warning though

If you’re reading fics on ao3 without playing whatever game you gonna get spoiled, kind of a given

If anything I would tag if there are no spoilers

[misty moth]

yee your right! good idea, thanks ^_^

[misty moth]

https://archiveofourown.org/works/55865566/chapters/141852160

@strong lark Please pin above ^_^

[strong lark]

[misty moth]

If anyone has Tag suggestions I'm open ^_^

[rancid salmon]

maybe in relation ship tags oc character and oc character or iterator and ancient character

but otherwise no clue im not the best with tags

also excited to see the cradle on ao3, while i will miss the old formatting (unless you do both, who knows) now that it is on ao3 it should get more attention which is always great

[misty moth]

I do plan on doing both

[misty moth]

Progress on chapter 3 took a halt in the past few days, but I have a bunch of free time tommorow, so I'm planning on investing my time there 🙂

[misty moth]

Oh also! Someone made some UG art in another server the other day! ^_^

[blazing berry]

ooo gorgeous!

[misty moth]

Yeee I love it! ^_^

[devout tangle]

Hot. Love how they drew the toga

[misty moth]

Btw, I am still (slowly) working on the cradle, writing's just taking a bit longer.

I'm keeping this project close to my heart, so I'll be eventually binge writing the next chapter when I'm in the proper state of mind :p

[blazing berry]

Looking forward to it :3c take your time

[crystal star]

We patiently await your work.

[misty moth]

Thankyou 🧡

[wooden thicket]

Finished reading parts 1 and 2 and
||DUDE WTFFF MASS ASCENSION WAS BRUTAL, AMAZING WORK ||
||The way you write taboos, especially Fields attempting to defy orders mmmm tasty. Facets' goodbyes. The local group before all this happened, man, they were so happy ||
Really enjoyed it!!

[blazing berry]

Right?? This work’s depiction is absolutely brutal

[misty moth]

Yooooo thankyou!!! 😄 😄 😄

[misty moth]

I'm really happy you enjoyed it! ^_^- And yeeee, I didint hold back on that part, happy it payed off, hehe

Been ramping back up my writing aswell, part 3.2 is on its way!

[misty moth]

Part 3.2 might have a small side story with a cameo from a canon characther btw!

[crystal star]

This is honestly very chilling.

While your Iterator seems to be emotional, despite the efforts of Administration to avoid that, mine will be as cold as I can make her.

Well, not exactly cold.

A raging indifference.

Anyway, irrelevant things aside, I like the way you write Iterators.

They seem capable of emotion, they're just equally capable of suppressing it.

[crystal star]

Sorry! Brain was not working.

What I meant to say there was emotion, not logic.

[misty moth]

Ohh! Thank you! ^_^ And yes, they are very capable of emotion

[misty moth]

I do kindof wonder what part in particular made you say that, though I have a hunch in what section, heh

[blazing berry]

I suspect it’s the beginning, I had the same feeling in the early parts! There was a lot of tension in the early interactions between ug and his admin

[misty moth]

That is true! They are kindof both in difficult positions 😅

[misty moth]

Update: Made some considerable progress on 3.2 today! I'm going to aim on finishing it tommorow and starting 3.3

[misty moth]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ftNfNxK-4KSudpI0PvYaByxX1UYwTd8QRe_i5YWfRIA/edit?usp=sharing

Part 3.2!

[rancid salmon]

lol im still reading right not but when i tell you my jaw dropped when|| sliver of straws name appeared||

||Okay the fact that Sliver reached out to Glory to help with the Triple Affirmative is such a neat idea. My girl Fields is still depressed and i will give her a virtual hug cause she needs one. As for Streams, dude you better stop ||

Overall great chapter, i liked it alot.

But when i tell you i had to squeeze my eyes so i could read the font you used for ||sliver|| i mean it. ||she|| gets such a swirly (ok, maybe not swirly but im not sure how to call it) font and i pressed my eyes against the screen to decipher it (yes, im reaching here, it wasnt that hard to read).

still great work, cant wait for the next

[high lynx]

Spooky scary font

[misty moth]

Thank you!! And yeah tbh the font choice was a bit intentional yeah, though might change it to something a bit more readeable? But there I kindof want it to be a bit, difficult to read

[rancid salmon]

nonono

idk why but it really fits

and you can still read it, just some words are difficult

you really dont have to change it unless you really want to it fits just as it is

[misty moth]

Thankyou! ^_^

[rancid salmon]

but now i have to ask
||since you put sos in, do you plan on adding any other in game iterators as well? you dont have to answer if its to much of a spoiler though ||

[misty moth]

||I dont think any of the other Iterators in the game will appear, though they might get a mention? Things may change though :p ||

[rancid salmon]

||makes sense, sliver would most likely have to be mentioned since she's so important. we will see what you decide on for the future||

[misty moth]

Oh, and once I'll be done with part 3 completely I will be uploading it to AoOO, so it'll be easier to read there :p . Accessibility options ftw!

[rancid salmon]

lets go!!!

i will probably keep reading on the google doc cause i like the way it can be formatted there but its nice to hear that more people will have access to it

also i can finally kudo it then

[high lynx]

||lmao is streams gonna take a void fluid bath||

[blazing berry]

New cradle???

Will read tonight

[wooden thicket]

||Oh god Streams He needs a hug, holy shitttt ||

[blazing berry]

||sliver??? Did glory unwittingly solve it for her???||

Augh this is good

||streams no ||

[blazing berry]

The acronym written out this way is so funny

[misty moth]

||Glory had a bit of an idea what they were helping with (I mean, what else would an iterator be working on), But they definetly didint solve it for them in that sense. They helped with that calculation but solving the great problem was probably way, way more then that (if they actucally solved it, that is)||

And yeah the acronym is funny hehe

[plain dock]

Story consumed

[misty moth]

Did you like it? ^_^

[plain dock]

Yep!

Love UG

[crystal star]

Need to bump this back...

[misty moth]

Yeah, thinkgs have been a bit more difficult then usual for me latley- Found out that my job wont be able to give me work hours for the summer and I have to start looking for summer job and uuugh- so Fanfic has been pushed back a lil in my priorities- But I keep it in mind! I'll put some time aside during the weekend to work on it

[blazing berry]

Take your time! Life priorities come first

We’ll still be here :3

[misty moth]

Small update!

I am going on a vacation during the upcoming week, and I'm planning on using my free time to make some big progress on Cradle

[high lynx]

Yippie

[blazing berry]

Woo!

[blazing berry]

beep boop bump

[high lynx]

Le bump

[misty moth]

Update: My vacation week I took specifically to go visit a good freind of mine got a bit sad because they turned out to be sick so we decided it was est for me not to go. Then I noticed the Elden ring DLC was coming out, cue binge gaming. After all of that, I am now at my parent's for the weekend, and, sitting in front of a laptop, I am officially starting work on chapter 3.3 right now 😄

[blazing berry]

Lotsa people enjoying Elden ring rn

Good luck on the chapter!!

All my writing juice is gone, I bequeath it to you

[misty moth]

Keep some for HFiSH!!

But thankyou, I seriously appreciate all y'all support ^_^

[blazing berry]

I used all the juice this week when I posted that chap

Break time

Seriously though looking forward to what you cook up!

[misty moth]

I think I might have this next chapter part done quickly, as I have had some pre-written chunks I've been holding back and I think this is the time to use them. Y'all about to be flashbanged (In a good way, I hope)

[blazing berry]

Oh???

I love having prewritten chunks around

When you finally get to use them it’s so nice

[misty moth]

Yeeeee

[misty moth]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6ZEGqdwQCHk4bMjdXrxBlkdBbZE6xq7B2GeNIUVP-U/edit?usp=sharing

Get flashbanged

[misty moth]

This one contains some meaty reveals

well

One meaty reveal

Though its a bit indirect? I think y'all will find it interesting, Ehehe

[high lynx]

It's late now so I will look tomorrow

[blazing berry]

||snail seer is both hilarious in concept and seems to have extremely high utility… good job||

||the stem tree… hmm. UG is creating some kind of organic communication or information storage network at massive scale, it seems.||

||ES casually evaluating the best method of suicide||

||yep yep biological information network. How wonderfully weird. Seems like it would be really slow for something like messages, though. What information is being gathered…? Also a noodlefly than can fuckin shoot you once a second is an absolute nightmare lmao no one is touching these babies||

||oh my god is he building himself a brain as an escape from his can? What does he mean about spoiling the chance this society (Iterator society?) has? Okay I’m confused again ||

Fascinating stuff

Really curious how this all will end

[misty moth]

||Not just his can. Spoiling the chance for this society (Iterator society), is because Untamed Glory could theoretically try to rebuild everything- he has the golden keys (nice metaphor I just thought up)||

[blazing berry]

||So is he trying to rebuild society but to his own standards? Or is this purely a selfish goal||

[misty moth]

||Pureley selfish, because if he brought back society, what do you think they would eventually do?... The same mistakes.||

[blazing berry]

||or just a method of transcending taboo?||

[blazing berry]

||So he will not share or assist the others in doing the same…||

Hmmm

[misty moth]

||They wouldent want what Glory is planning||

[misty moth]

||ꐔꊿꌈ ꈵꃔꊿꅐ ꁝꊿꅐ ꋖꁝ꒐ꈜ ꑀꃔꀷꈜ||

[blazing berry]

You got me on the edge of my seat

Can’t wait for more :3

[misty moth]

||and by "not just his can", I dont mean they are trying to have others escape their cans, I mean they are trying to escape something else. much more fundemental.||

[blazing berry]

||Taboo? Death? Life?||

||UG wants to be eternal?||

Also I worry for TF here (don’t we always)

Once ||comms break down… she’ll have nothing left again||

[misty moth]

||Comms wont break down that fast though, stuff's gonna happen before that otherwise I feel that would be kinda boring but more then that would be spoilers||

[blazing berry]

No spoilers! And don’t answer my questions if you consider them major spoilers :3x I’m just theorizing

Though it’s your story and your thread so if you do wanna spoil hehe

[misty moth]

||꒐ ꀷꊿꃔꋖ ꅐꁲꃔꋖ ꋖꊿ ꀷ꒐ꑀ||

You know how I said.. this fic is me trying to come to terms with some things? I cant say more then that

[blazing berry]

These personal fics are often my favorites

Author self-examination, in whatever form that takes

[misty moth]

BTW, ||Coral Stem and Coral Neuron are the in game file names for some of the Iterator parts you can see||

||In fact, I created this reference image for myself||

[misty moth]

Yo @high lynx do tell what you think when you read it plz and if I made any grammatical mistakes, if you want to ofc!

[high lynx]

This one is kinda cluncky, ||"The reasult is similar to a squidcada in body plan but with an oval shell where the abdomen should be, and a single overseer eye in place of the head."||

I think there should be a comma after "this"?

Inconsistencies, me no likey :(
(Capitalization and the way it's written)

Infants

Noodlefly's

[misty moth]

Argh, capitalisation consistency, my kryptonite

[misty moth]

Thanks a lot btw!

I hope you enjoyed ^_^

[high lynx]

Yeah gee i wonder what glory is fucking around with, are they gonna ||make themselves into a collective organism or some shit||?

[misty moth]

||꒐ ꈵꃔꊿꅐ ꋖꁝꑀ ꉣꌅ꒐ꏳꑀ ꋖꊿ ꉣꁲꐔ||

||((yes))||

I dont want to elaborate on ||the specific motivation yet, but I think from the context and what I've said it can be figured out||

[high lynx]

||bro's clinging to life||

[plain dock]

Story consumed

Those neuron noots remind me of udonflies from moss fields (moss field spoilers)

[blazing berry]

OH MY GOD

he’s VAST

[crystal star]

Thanks, I hate it.

[high lynx]

"According to all known laws of aviation..."

Honestly it looks cool

[misty moth]

||ꁲꌅꑀꃔꋖ ꅐꑀ ꁲ꒒꒒? ꁝꑀꁝꑀ... haha, HAAAAHAHAHAH, HAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA sobbing||

[high lynx]

That's a whacky font

... also yea

[misty moth]

Meant to be glitchy text but uh, IDK if its a bot or discord purging the stereotypical glitchy text so have cryptic unreadable unicode instead 😄

[high lynx]

I mean this text is still kinda readable?

[misty moth]

Well ye, wasent going to post complete gibberish :p . (which is part of the reason the latter half of the message is in regular font otherwise it would have looked weird)

And ||I'll leave it up to interpretation who of the two possibilities is half canonically talking there||

[wooden thicket]

||Mixtape trading canon ||
||"Accidentally" - STREAMS ||
||"I should talk with my friends... nah, they'll reach out" GLORY..... BESTIE. I DON'T - I DON'T THINK THEY WILL ANYTIME SOON ||
||Glory wants to live so badly, even if it means transforming into an ecosystem. Terrifyingly respectable ||
GOOD CHAPTER! Tension is building up hoooooo

[wooden thicket]

V A S T

[devout tangle]

Finally caught up with the AO3 version at least. Mhm, the formatting you procured there I really like! Very fitting for the speedrun to MA. Covers a long time, but doesn’t feel empty at all!

[high lynx]

Bump!

[misty moth]

Thanks for the Bump @high lynx ! And I have some good news! I'm setting aside time today to start writing part 3.4 ^_^

[blazing berry]

More cradle

[misty moth]

@strong lark !!! Please Pin! Its Three Fields!!

YESSSSS 😄 😄 So happyyy!! thanks Drymm!!

[wooden thicket]

GIVE IT UP FOR THREEEEE FIEEELDSSSS

[strong lark]

great job on this artwork

[strong lark]

done

[crystal star]

She is so fucking adorable, what the fuck?

I love this.

I love this so much.

Why is she not real?

[blazing berry]

AHHHHH THIS IS SO GOOD

[misty moth]

I had a feeling You'd like her, hehee

And it is goooood, Drym makes wonderfull art ^_^

[blazing berry]

The way the visor turns into headphones??? So damn clever

[rancid salmon]

nawwww shes so cute
||why did you have to hurt her like that ||

[devout tangle]

The design goes so hard! Great job you two :3

[high lynx]

YOOOOOOO

[plain dock]

Oh my god, she's so cool!

[misty moth]

So! Lil update, I’m staying at my parents place for a good few days, so I am away from my Gaming PC!

Which means, I’ll probably be writing more cradle 😄

[blazing berry]

A blessing and a curse :3

More cradle… looking forward to it

[devout tangle]

Quick 10 min sketch. Nothing to see here.
back to exam prep.

[plain dock]

Oh, she's cool! Well done

Good luck with the exam

[devout tangle]

Can't resist drawing cuties.

[rancid salmon]

Fieldsssss!!!!!

yeah she is the cutest

||now if only she was allowed to be happy glares at simon||

[crystal star]

||I don’t think Iterators are allowed to be happy.||

[wooden thicket]

Ready to drop some sick beats 😎

[devout tangle]

A track for every situation. ||She stockpiled sad songs in advance.||

[misty moth]

EEEEeee!!! Thankyou!! She’s so pretty

[misty moth]

[crystal star]

A bit derailing, but I hate one-emoji spoilers.

They fucking suck to click.

[misty moth]

Ok there you go~

[crystal star]

No, don’t change it!

You didn’t need to.

[misty moth]

I’m too accomodating 😅

[devout tangle]

Especially on mobile

[crystal star]

Sorry, just a bit of something.

[crystal star]

Exactly.

I have big thumbs. Actually, I just have a pretty sizable hand.

So…

Also, I wrote something happy, I have to complain about something. It is a legal obligation of mine.

For legal reasons, that is a joke. I have no legal obligations to complain when I write something too happy.

[crystal star]

She is.

Why isn’t she real?

[misty moth]

Design detail fun fact about Three Fields, Her Visor is technically a high tech visual information display, thats completely redundant for an Iterator to have. But it helps her relate to her citizens by seeing how they receive and process information, and because and it helps the citizens find her more endearing because when she starts talking to you she lifts the visor, making it much more apparent her attention is on you

[rancid salmon]

||because paying a therapist for her would cost more money than exists on this here planet||

[crystal star]

Right.

[misty moth]

||applicable to pretty much most Iterators TBH. And tbh probably also ancients. And humans.||

[rancid salmon]

||gosh, why is therapy so expensive ||

[crystal star]

||No idea!||

[misty moth]

A second design tidbit about three fields- Her name refers to the fact that she’s the third Iterator of this small local group, and that the ancients hoped that it would be like, a fertile feild to settle on, if that makes sense, in a metaphorical way

[crystal star]

I get it.

Untamed Glory’s mind shines with, well, an untamed glory.

[misty moth]

It goes a little deeper then that, aswell. I think lore wise facets probably had to fight some pushback to change it from tamed glory to Untamed Glory- it also somewhat represents the « glory » of the ancients, the iterators, and how UG was, wild, broke control and surpassed their expectations

There is also uh

Uhhhhm

|| GRRRAAAHGHHHH ||

Too spoilery

For now, all you need to know is that there is a third meaning

[blazing berry]

I love all the thought you’ve put into your characters :3

[misty moth]

Thankyou! I’m happy it shows 😄

While I’m here, fun fact about Glory’s refsheet, you may notice that they dont have pronouns on it. Thats because I initially Forgor, but in retrospect I decided it would be very in character to leave no pronouns on the ref

[blazing berry]

How so? He doesn’t mind?

[high lynx]

Drip. Good looks, even

[misty moth]

He dosent care XD

(Will explain more after I eat lunch)

[high lynx]

inefficient

[plain dock]

||He's about to become an ecosystem ||

[high lynx]

||i propose they/them||

[devout tangle]

Pronouns: Glory, Glorem

[misty moth]

Like with many things, Glory’s relation to Gender is an Accentuation and Idealisation of my own psyche. You may or may not know, but my profile does have « I dont know my pronouns lol »

I asked myself the question of what my gender is a lot in the past, and the awnser I came around to was a global rejection of the concept of gender itself

Ofc, we live in a society, and because its easier, I’m a « him » for most purposes

[high lynx]

so it's a case of "they are just like me fr fr"? /j

[plain dock]

Glory is a self-insert? Cool

[high lynx]

||representative of one's struggle to fulfil their desires of becoming an ecosystem, as one does||

[misty moth]

Yup! Though not a 100% direct one, I write them with my « voice » if that makes sense

[misty moth]

||I DONT WANT TO DIE||

[plain dock]

||Fun fact: You already are||

[high lynx]

MORE

[crystal star]

Does anyone?

[plain dock]

Eventually
I would not want to live forever

[crystal star]

It depends.

Maybe I don’t want to live forever, but maybe I also don’t want to die.

But, right now? Nope.

[misty moth]

People dont realise thats the same thing, in a way

[plain dock]

Interesting how people talk a lot about a potential life after death, but what about a life before birth?

[misty moth]

I cant rationally make an argument from my current perspective that I wouldent allways choose life for my future self in any circumstance

[crystal star]

This.

I had a bit of a rant with someone I’m close to.

How I want to know things that happened before a point of no return, and things that’ll happen after.

[high lynx]

But alas

[crystal star]

My inner desire to simply cease struggle is always balanced by the fear of what comes after.

It’s not even “I want to die”, it’s “I want to know what happens if I do.”

But since I can never really tell, and I fear that it is simply worse than the alternative, well…

I’m still here.

[misty moth]

As living things, the purpose molded onto us by the consequences of an impermanent universe is the futile search of eternity. Survival. Survival, at any cost.

[crystal star]

But eternity itself is a thing to fear, which is strange.

How can I seek something I fear?

[misty moth]

Why fear eternity

[crystal star]

My answer is, “it’s maybe better than the alternative”.

[crystal star]

Why? I have no idea. It’s irrational.

My fears are irrational.

I fear death, despite knowing its embrace will eventually claim me.

And as there’s nothing I can do to stop spiraling towards it, I need not fight.

But there’s this fear, all the same.

[misty moth]

Its irrational in the same way that the letter « e » dosent have a fundemental meaning beyond what we give it

[crystal star]

I have reason to not fear something, I have none to fear it, yet it lingers.

[high lynx]

Prolly ties to fear of the unknown?

[crystal star]

It does.

[misty moth]

Its an unquantifiable

[crystal star]

But most unknowns are fun to face, in a way.

The fear of death is a primal one.

[misty moth]

Not being afraid of it is as irrational as being afraid of it, its knowlege value isint 0, its NULL

[crystal star]

Even if I fear eternity, I fear death more.

Thus, I stay.

I have no reason to fear eternity. It never ends, and that, in a way, is my deepest desire.

[misty moth]

I actually rationalized a proof against eternity in a sense, a long time ago

[crystal star]

But why is it that I fear it?

[crystal star]

Interesting.

[crystal star]

May you present this idea?

[misty moth]

If we assume that there is a limited amount of information in finite space in the universe, and that whatever « you » are must occupy finite space, then it is ineviteable that you will either exhaust all possible states of « you » and repeat previous states, or that the finite space will stop containing « you »

[crystal star]

How does this prove that eternity is not possible?

Or have you not gotten to that part yet?

[crystal star]

This just proves that eternity doesn’t need to not repeat.

[misty moth]

No I mean I kindof have but I may need to explain more. In essence « you », while the definition of what « you » constitutes is unclear, we can agree that in a finite space, there are arrangements of matter in which we could consider « you » to be inside of it

[crystal star]

Correct.

I am still following.

[misty moth]

Because its highly likley there is a finite resolution of detail to the universe, if we were to draw that box to allways contain « you », it should still be a finite space

Which would have finite possible permutations of matter that could contain « you »

[crystal star]

I am still following.

[misty moth]

Therefore, either that box will stop containing you, or you will eventually exhaust all permutations and probably begin a loop

Being in a loop has some pretty bad fucking implications

And there is kindof the problem that we also arent allready in a loop

[high lynx]

Well, or are we?

No one knows!

[crystal star]

You don’t know what lies beyond a point of no return.

[crystal star]

Why does it?

Genuine question.

[misty moth]

Your memories and who you are would get looped too, right? Ofc your memory might be limited so thats fair, but… at that point your existance has kindof devolved to a crystal. Eternal, yes, but unchanging

Thats the crux of the issue actually

Change and Decay are the same thing, you cant have one withought the other

Eternity implies an effective freezing of the ability for things to change, to « progress », to « devellop »

[crystal star]

I see a beauty in that.

I am.

I have always been.

And I will always continue to be.

[misty moth]

But thats the issue, you can say that, the fact you can say it is proof of our impermanence in a sense

[crystal star]

Why would it be?

Maybe I’m permanent.

Maybe I’m not.

Is this not simply a possible result of a finite universe repeating on in itself?

[high lynx]

Oh right i was not thinking philosophically enough I thought the permutations meant mostly just what you do and where you are and stuff

I'm not good at this philosophy stuff

[misty moth]

Perhaps, but if your consciousnes ceases to be in the middle of the loop you still die. You need to exist for the entire loop, effectivley unable to change anything about what is going to happen

[crystal star]

Maybe “I” die, and am brought back.

[misty moth]

If your brought back with no memory, thats not really you, thats just another person that thinks its you

[crystal star]

To this, I say, how do you know that you are “you”?

[misty moth]

I dont

But because its a concept my mind needs to not implode with existentialism I maintain it despite its undefineable nature

[crystal star]

Same goes for death, one step up the ladder.

[high lynx]

God this is some ||SOMA|| level of thinking

[crystal star]

“I” exist from moment to moment.

If “I” do not exist from moment to moment, then why would death be any different?

Perhaps it is what I do, that is me.

Perhaps, there is no “I”.

But “I” must struggle, because it is all I can do.

[misty moth]

I fundementally beleive that stuff like "I" and "free will", regardless of if they exist or not, are things we would amend the defenition to untill it is something humans have, because its impossible to really "think" withought implicitly beleiving in those things

[crystal star]

I’d like to call that into question, but I’m not supposed to think this deep. I’m a writer, and writers don’t debate philosophy.

Also, I need to take a break from the internet.

Perhaps this world is absurd, and I must embrace that.

Also, sorry for going off-topic.

[misty moth]

nah its good!!! I love these kinds of talks

((UG speechbubble))

[high lynx]

Wait let me just...

[crystal star]

You made this?

Right. Break from the Internet.

[high lynx]

No, I just took a bit of art and sluggishly slapped a speech bubble onto it

#1234643135003361380 message

[high lynx]

Well, cya then!

[misty moth]

hehe, nice!

[misty moth]

Oh, if your wondering what Glory’s pronoun preference is btw

He/Him and They/Them (probably the same for me), but they wont really mind if you use anything else

I spent all day working on renovating my parents porch and I am now exhausted and going into the pool for a bit

[rancid salmon]

wait i just thought glory only used they/them, im dumb

[misty moth]

Well they do inly use They/Them but I know I cant catch myself from using he

Curse you gender binary society

So He/Him is an acceptable alternative

[rancid salmon]

[misty moth]

Back to working on cradle! May try to get part 3.4 out today, no guarantees though

[high lynx]

[misty moth]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1emxLrTjHjK2B1q-hJKsYF-TmjaQ7vPz8aRXb_OCD9LQ/edit?usp=sharing

This may be the end of part threee!

which would leave 2 more parts planned

[blazing berry]

I’m too mentally tired to appreciate this rn so I’m gonna save the read for tomorrow!! But I’m excited to see this updated. Thank you and good job

[high lynx]

Shouldn't Streams be capitalized here?

And also the capitalization of Project No Apotheosis

[high lynx]

Got interrupted, back at it, i'd add a comma before Glory?

Here i'd put a comma after Glory i think?

Comma after regardless i think?

Add a comma before thankfully

||Glory going full sicko, Streams' testing backfires, jeez, is Field really the only sane one here?||

[rancid salmon]

||everything goes to shit
Two Silver Coins: Man, i really want that next volume||

[crystal star]

||TSC? That TSC from AVM?||

[misty moth]

No, I honestly dont know what AMV is 😅

[devout tangle]

I think celestrium is referring to the second coming from animator vs animation

[misty moth]

Oh lol 😅

[misty moth]

||Of their totally not cringe manga/comic book||

||on another note though, while that is establishing something in preparation (this isint the last we see of Two Silver Coins), I feel their more lighthearted segment should help emphasize the rest of this part more. Sometimes you need to light a candle to see just how deep the shadows are. And also keep some tonal balance!||

[misty moth]

And Grammar fixed! Thanks Piotr, I appreciate a lot ^_^

[crystal star]

||I love my guilty pleasures, and I’ll die on this hill.||

[high lynx]

RIGHT I forgot to send this one, no comma here I believe

[high lynx]

I'm glad to know even the ancients had "badass" cringe names

Really makes me wonder if the ancients used to go by more "normal" names at some point

[misty moth]

||That one stays, its more rythm if that makes sense||

[blazing berry]

||streams still trying to die 🥺 one character desperate to live, another desperate to die. I wonder if there will be a confrontation?||

||two firearms, one bullet is an excellent name for an ancient comic mc lmao||

||ohhh, yep, confrontation.||

||okay, the plan is spelled out now. Pretty simple in concept, but in execution…||

||rather pessimistic view of the iterators as a society. But if they are people, and people are simply destined for selfishness/violence…||

||backfired in a big way, indeed :(||

||THE ENDING||

[high lynx]

||that ending is surely not worrying and glory is definitley fine mentally ||

[blazing berry]

Oh totally. ||those are normal happy comfortable thoughts. They sound good||

[high lynx]

||abrupt change of plans? Pure stimulation? Lack of structuring? Desire for more of it? Sudden yelling? Yeah i'd totally do the same||

[blazing berry]

That’s just Tuesday

[high lynx]

||7am: wake up
8am: breakfast
9am: iterating
10am-12pm: connect to experimental ecosystem
12pm-7am: pass out||

[blazing berry]

More like:

||10am-12pm: connect to experimental ecosystem
12pm-6am: EXISTENTIAL SCREECHING
7am: pass out ||

[high lynx]

[wooden thicket]

||TSC: oh no how will I ever read fanfiction now ||
||Streams and Glory arguing back and forth about their taboo projects ||
||Never really considered the possibility of iterators being so desperate as to KILL each other for resources, but considering they're all painfully deteriorating, I like it. That's metal. In a devastating way||
||STREAMS...... YOU MAY NOT BE FINE||
||GLORY YOU'RE FINALLY DOING IT WOOOO!!||

||And thus, in their pursuit of immortality, Glory has embraced the chaos of being a ecosystem. Looks like grand things are in store for them! ||

[high lynx]

||Glory: "I'M REALLY GONNA DO IT THIS TIME"||

||He seems to be having "fun" ||

[wooden thicket]

||Fucking Unbearable Neurostimulation||

[misty moth]

Finally back from my multi-hour car ride!!

I seem to have missed a bit of stuff, hehe

[misty moth]

||Whaaaat, I'm sure their fi- GRRAAghhhh, hhh, hhh HHRRRGGGRRAAAHHRHEBHHFKBSDbhebhsfgggg||

[misty moth]

||Thankfully Glory isint really in "Pain", but, its like if you plugged your brain directly into multicolored static that somehow made intuitive sense and had meaning that you could understand on a gut level, but would be impossible to think about using words||

||Or I guess another analogy, if you tried to plug a computer into a beehive||

[high lynx]

||... which could lead to pain?||

[misty moth]

||Kinda? They is probably some pain but also bliss, very chaotic and unstructured, though there is still some emergent order||

[high lynx]

||oh also I assume he's "free" in this state, no taboos?||

[misty moth]

||More or less, though there is one taboo Glory didint touch||

||Actually they made sure to keep that Taboo no matter what||

Its very Ironic

[high lynx]

||is it a secret which one, or...?||

[misty moth]

|| I'm pretty sure you can figure it out :p ||

[wooden thicket]

||✨ Self-preservation ✨||
I think 😂

[misty moth]

Yup

[high lynx]

||oh I was gonna say "gotta think" but yeah self destruction seems obvious||

[misty moth]

||Glory is so afraid of death they dont even want to give their future selves the option to die (they just like me fr fr)||

[high lynx]

||oh this surely won't backfire||

[misty moth]

||Actually it might not backfire because I am not confronting that existential dread yet I think, though, who knows if my writing feelings change.|| I remeber watching a youtube video about the realistic limits of mortality/how much you could avoid death within our universe and known laws of science. There was a point in that video where they mentionned that you should give yourself the option to voluntarily die, because otherwise you might find yourself at the heat death of the universe competing for resources to prolong your existance with other no death option beings who also want to die but are forced to compete for resources out of a self preservation protocol. ||I scare myself when thinking about this because that scenario dosent fully dissuade me from wanting to stop my future self from choosing death||

[high lynx]

||I mean, there might be some long term faults in the system of theirs? I assume it will also have downtime due to the rain. Though I am curious if they will be kinda in their can and kinda in their ecosystem up until the can ceases functions, or will they just "migrate" fully right away. Though i guess that might be revealed soom. But yeah my main thought about it backfiring is some long-term issue or the whole thing degrading, leaving them in a bad position while unable to really die||

Also that vid sounds interesting ngl

[misty moth]

Lemme see if I can find it

[misty moth]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6icg0tu_5z4&pp=ygUSSXNhYWMgYXJ0aHVyIGRlYXRo

[high lynx]

I will check it out later, thanks

[high lynx]

Bump

[misty moth]

I have begun converting chapter 3 into AoOO's format today 😄

[blazing berry]

Aooo

[misty moth]

https://archiveofourown.org/works/55865566/chapters/146119888 Cradle Part 3!

@snow ember Please pin above! 😄

[misty moth]

Le BUMP ^_^, I dont have much news, as activity has taken a bit of a dip, but I'm as motivated as ever to finish this fic!! 😄

[blazing berry]

Good to hear!

[high lynx]

Bump

[misty moth]

Hello!! Small update, should have clarified

I am taking a vacation to my home province so I’m not putting in much time to advance the fic

So for the next few days there wont be much progress

[rancid salmon]

have fun on your vacation!

[blazing berry]

Have a good time!

[short dirge]

Stay safe.

[crystal star]

Unfortunately, no Invmotes.

They’re endearing, but alas! I am but a broke-ass bitch.

[high lynx]

Go go gadget thread bumper

[wooden thicket]

We love and appreciate local thread bumper

[misty moth]

We do appreciate the local thread bumper a lot! Btw I am bakc from vacation! my activity shiould creep back up! Gonna move this server back to the top of my server list too

[plain dock]

Welcome back!

[misty moth]

News!

Going to my parents in 2 days meaning less good computer meaning probably writing progression ^_^

[blazing berry]

More cradle!!

Looking forward to it, whenever it’s ready

[misty moth]

Working a bit on Cradle today! Though I think I'll be putting some work into a side project aswell that you may or may not have heard me talking about. I'll keep you all updated ^_^. I dont expect to have 4.1 ready today but I will try to get it done tommorow, I'll have a lot of free time to write then 😄

[high lynx]

Oh, that side project?

[misty moth]

Yeeee, thinking about making a post for it in the Stories Forum. Will probably make a post for Cradle there too tommorow ^_^

[misty moth]

Progress on Cradle today is slower then expected, but existant!

[misty moth]

So update!! Its my birthday today. I also got a HUGE motivation boost to write more Cradle, which has encouraged me to get my stuff together. Today is my Birthday and tommorow I’ll be driving a car for a few hours, but I set up two alarms in my schedule for the day after that to write cradle. I dont want to make any guarantees or promises- I’ll work at the pace I need- But I thought I should keep y’all updated on future Cradle prospects

[blazing berry]

Happy bday!!!

[rancid salmon]

@misty moth YOU!!!

you made me break my promise

i told myself to not open Krite until i have my drawing pad, next time wait with your birthday until it arrives /j

there, a little gift, get ready for the best Cradle character to play you some birthday mixtape or sth like that

ALSO!!!

that design is fun to draw, hope its up to standard

[wooden thicket]

HAPPY BORTHDAY

[high lynx]

Smh post office should have hurried up /j

[rancid salmon]

they said it would arrive at the latest on the 10th of july!!!

thats one month ago

[wooden thicket]

YIKES

[high lynx]

Bruh you sure you did not recieve anything that said "Hey come over to the post office to pick it up yourselves"?

[high lynx]

Art permission denied

[rancid salmon]

nope, they told me its avalivel, and then, only after i called and asked a week later, told me it was actually out of stock

[high lynx]

Wait you mean the store or the post office

[rancid salmon]

they now said it should be shipped out on the 12th of this month, and if they lie again i swear to god, im never stopping to draw with a mouse

[rancid salmon]

store

[high lynx]

Oh god

[high lynx]

embrace the MSpaint art

[misty moth]

THANKYOU SO MUCH

Its nice!!

[rancid salmon]

thank god, i only glanced over at the refrence from drymm and i was like, hope thats good enough

[wooden thicket]

🔥/10, amazing work

[high lynx]

Wait where are her arms /j

[rancid salmon]

still have to learn how to draw those, would usually just do line art but that wont happen with that stupid mouse

[high lynx]

I mean it literally looks like she does not have arms under the robe

But that's a small detail

[rancid salmon]

and i did not try to give them to her

[misty moth]

~~Though you got Three Field’s symbol wrong ~~

[rancid salmon]

i realized

there is another line missing

but i was running out of place

[high lynx]

"Nice art!

... however" /j

[misty moth]

The eyes and visor are so good though

Keep up the good art ^_^

[rancid salmon]

about that, at first i drew it like its in the finished version sicne i just thought it was karma three with a little arrow, then i saw that i got it wrongl, erased it and drew it correctly but that looked really squashed, then i just changed it back again casue i liked how it looked

[rancid salmon]

i will try

[high lynx]

It'll be interesting to see how your art changes with the tablet

[misty moth]

😅, it is mostly karma 3 with a little hat but it also has some karma 4 mixed in. I try to make my karma symbols according to what we know of the in game symbology which is a suprising amount

[rancid salmon]

probably mostly just actual lineart

[misty moth]

Actually I thought up a symbol for Empty Streams the other day though I think I still need to workshop it a little

[high lynx]

Oh no, the karma 10 symbol, streams, no

[rancid salmon]

i think i see parts of the martier (how do you even write that!??!?!?)

[misty moth]

Martyr

[rancid salmon]

that one

but could also be a scolar maybe?

[plain dock]

🔥

[high lynx]

I see the top part as a mix of T and F and that makes me by default think "The Fuck" or "Team Fortress"

Wait oh god the karma 10 looks like the team fortress logo

New conspiracy theory just dropped

[plain dock]

ES is a sweaty sniper main

[high lynx]

ES hosts bots

[misty moth]

You may or may not be correct considering precedent for that symbol

[rancid salmon]

oh yeah, there its even more obvious

then there is the survivour

and the death stripes from dragon slayor maybe?

[high lynx]

Just 2 tho?

[rancid salmon]

i only see one

[high lynx]

I mean I think you mean those that extend from the x in the karma 10?

[misty moth]

Actually its my theory that the « stripes » of martyr represent something similar to the other « stripes », but unidirectional in a sense

[rancid salmon]

oh i mean the left stripe on glorys symbol

[misty moth]

I kindof interpret them as Violence or Harm (in a different way then the violence Karma)

[misty moth]

Ah, thats inherited from survivor though

[rancid salmon]

ohhhh, yeah, i should have realized that, i just thought it was one of the death stripes

[misty moth]

The Empty Streams symbol kindof combines two of my fringe interpretations of the symbology

Stuff like the dragonslayer and outlaw have those 4 horizontal ish lines

Which can be associated with violence/death

My fringe interpretations are that they are also on the Martyr and Within Time symbols

[high lynx]

Hm so glory's symbol kinda means "survival at any cost"?

[misty moth]

ANYanyAAAaany NO COST TO GREAT no cost grrrr, rrrhh! AAAAAHAHAHAHA ((yes))

Perseverance

[high lynx]

Then fields is i guess sth like "survival by endulging in companionship"? (Since the mix of the karma 3 and 4 + survivor)

[misty moth]

Fields actually dosent have survivor

[high lynx]

And streams i am unsure how to interpret besides karma 10 = VF

[misty moth]

Its a consensus that survivor is actually a composite symbol

Its hat means life

[high lynx]

Hm so sth like "indulging in companionship and life"?

[misty moth]

More or less! Fertile fields, community, positive growth and freindship

Fields probably could qualify as the messiah

((THAT IS A JOKE))

[misty moth]

TBH I was a bit tired when making it, stream’s one is up for change

[misty moth]

I’d also like to note that…. How to say this, this is pretty important, to… everything. Y’all will see, in time

time...

keeps.

Moving.

Forward.

[high lynx]

Bro ain't giving up

Also that makes me wonder

His symbol is "survival at any cost", sure

But did he have that symbol from the beggining and that was the personality he was given?

Did he choose that symbol himself?

[high lynx]

Nahhh this is clearly very true information

[misty moth]

Glory's technically a they but they dont care that much about being called a they :p . But yeah I have thought about that and kindof dodged the question in my head

However I think it was there originally and it was perhaps coincidence, or maybe fate, if such a thing exists

[high lynx]

Oh right whoops

[misty moth]

Or maybe... Facets was never really super hyped about ascending

Wether consciously or not, I think Facets wanted to impart some of their will into their creation. They were desperate and put in a difficult corner

Some part of them, knew time was running out

I mean thats partially why they quit the original Iterator program. He knew they'd fail

Unlike his peers, Facets didint care about the cost of "survival" in a metaphorical sense

Was it coincidence, or fate, that Glory would be well symbolically represented by that symbol afterwards?

Neither

The defining characteristic of life is the will to maintain its own existence.

[high lynx]

Wouldn't it suck to be extremely suicidal and have "survival at any cost" tatoo'd on your forehead

[misty moth]

Technically chest for Glory*

[high lynx]

Not sure if that's better or worse

[misty moth]

Fun design fact about Glory, if they are wearing their Toga in the right way it kinda looks like its just karma 3 on their chest

Thats intentional

[high lynx]

I guess their attachment to their group, ye?

[misty moth]

[high lynx]

Or to life

[wooden thicket]

WHAT
I didn't even see that, that's genius

[high lynx]

Is this Glory in disguise?

[misty moth]

Btw, there has been progress! I got 2 logs done. I'll try to have it done by the end of the week

[high lynx]

nudging thread

[misty moth]

Thankyou! Also, I am currently writing cradle 🙂

[misty moth]

I proudly present

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e5DRX2YZYBmCrBYdVPhPU9XzBTZco3PtKdGCrhJGSjY/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks to everyone for the moral support, its helped me a lot to keep me motivated in writing this- I hope my writing is still good, hehehe, but it should be, hehe

[crystal star]

It’s still great!

[rancid salmon]

wow, so much stuff is coming out today, and piotr still wants to post sth tomorrow, whatever is going on is great

[misty moth]

Some things I'd like to note for the future aswell, and maybe also something to get people's opinion on

Well mainly just- I am feeling like we havent heard much from Fields in awhile so you can expect her in part 4.2

And the thing I have been thinking about a bit- once part 4 is done, what would y'all think of an interlude chapter?

Not like

How to say

Basically I want to take some time to write some documentation if that makes sense. A kind of, author's notes

And also somewhere integrated to the story where I can put the refsheets

and various bits

I could also make it after cradle is finished but I want thoughts on when I should do it

[crystal star]

I mean, if you’re feeling like it, go for it!

I don’t think any of us will mind.

[misty moth]

, Thankyou, and yee I think y'all will find it interesting!! ^_^. I have the feeling that we are going to need a pacing buffer between 4 & 5 aswell so I think it will turn out nicley. I have no idea what I am doing btw

[crystal star]

Worry not, for neither do I!

[wooden thicket]

Good chapter!
||Don't worry, Streams, somebody is gonna try breaking into Fields' isolation Whether you'll still be here to witness it, however... ||

[high lynx]

Also new ACTS chapter hopefully soon

[high lynx]

||Fields is just throwing a sick party and does not want any disturbances||

[high lynx]

Bump

[misty moth]

AM working on 4.2!! Here is a spoiler

[high lynx]

[high lynx]

When the Glory is Untamed or sth idk I did not read cradle /j

[misty moth]

XD Hehehe. Cradle is still in the works!~

[high lynx]

Bump

[misty moth]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UNRyTZR3qTKa4mdmTN9uRAKYOasSy2e2fsqAbRb9gx4/edit?usp=sharing

Short chapter!

But a chapter nonetheless

(Its a single long ish log from three fields)

[wooden thicket]

||Three Fields moderator arc real ||
||Initiating contact after a quiet spell is hardddd, I feel that ||
||You've got this Fields. Maybe not at this moment, but you've got this ||

[crystal star]

The Fields are back!

[high lynx]

Farmers in season: /j

[misty moth]

I am beginning work on part 4.3 today! 😄

[high lynx]

[rancid salmon]

[misty moth]

EMPTY STREAMS, LORD OF VOID FLUID (and inferiority complexes!) ((Thanks Drymm!!)) ( @strong lark please pin ^_^ )

[wooden thicket]

THERE HE ISSSSS

[strong lark]

@wooden thicket amazing job

[rancid salmon]

head mark analysing time

man im rusty, is that scolar?

well the othere one is karma 10 obviously

scolar in regards to void fluid?

[misty moth]

Martyr is in there, scholar wasent intended but tbh could make sense. Half stylised with Hunter’s « within time » ascension achievement

[rancid salmon]

uhhhhhh

so much martyr everywhere

also the cup which i presume to be voif fluid to me looked like coffee at first glance

thouhgt he was about to take a sip

[misty moth]

Literally was my thought when pitching the Idea to Drymm ehehehe, it fits the mood

[plain dock]

So drippy!

I love this

[devout tangle]

That design is right up my alley

[wooden thicket]

[wooden thicket]

He wants to, very badly

[high lynx]

The one who is drippy

[crystal star]

Very pretty.

[high lynx]

Wait huh the beaker has the scholar symbol?

Also I assume the what I think are references to echoes are intentional? ||uh oh, streams please no||

[wooden thicket]

Me, ||I came up with echo motifs because they're cool ||
||Don't know what Simon has planned though, if anything, relating to echoes ||

[high lynx]

Oh lmao

[misty moth]

Oh heck I didint see the newest messages hm

Streams is void fluid themed, thats as much as I will say for now, hehe

[misty moth]

About 2/3rds of part 4.3 is complete! working on it today

[high lynx]

Bump

[misty moth]

Uh Cradle news

Expect small delays

And feel free to chat here about anything if yall need to change you mind

Thankyou so much all of you for your support

[plain dock]

That's fine

Take as long as you need

[rancid salmon]

take all the time you need

[misty moth]

Thankyou

[misty moth]

Good news!

Am writing more of 4.3, I may try to finish it today or tommorow!

[high lynx]

[misty moth]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bYvplwyMuPXYPGjPl0LBuMPcyXxW9MTknCaImCQH7Vw/edit?usp=sharing

The long awaited Cradle part 4.3!

[crystal star]

Consumed.

[misty moth]

Whad'ya think

[crystal star]

I like it.

There’s very little I would change.
-# As with you.

||Firebug|| bit has interesting implications.

I’d love to see it explored more.

||Glory namedrop|| was nice.

||Their slip into wordless thought||, I liked.

[high lynx]

Bump

[misty moth]

Progress slow in the past few days, beeeeen busy, but it should start back up soon! Got a good amount of the next part done so it shouldent be too long

[misty moth]

Expect

1.5 MASSIVE cradle logs today

(maybe)

[wooden thicket]

[high lynx]

[tough dew]

[misty moth]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ac3n6CnJkV3HSoC7wr08uRwZO003AHiGfwfuIvn_NF0/edit?usp=sharing Cradle 4.4!

[crystal star]

I have consumed.

[misty moth]

I have just realised there is a huge inconsistency in this Cradle log

I am going to have to fix it in the morning though because it is past midnight here

||The automatic fauna catalogue should be said to have been developed at the start of the Iterator program not shortly before MA||

[rancid salmon]

moreeee craddleeeee

[high lynx]

Bump

[misty moth]

More cradle writing coming soon! (tm). In the meantime, look who it is!! Thanks a lot to Drymm for this I love it!! 😄 😄

[high lynx]

it's the guy!

[tough dew]

It’s John Cradle himself

From hit Rain World Fanfiction, The Cradle

[high lynx]

located in The Cradle Valley

[wooden thicket]

The critter

[devout tangle]

The cradler

[plain dock]

Unparalleled drip
Untamed swag

[crystal star]

Glamorous Glory.

[high lynx]

Bumping

[misty moth]

Cradle updates may be slow due to other projects and me starting back up IRL work again

[high lynx]

good luck

[misty moth]

thankyou

[high lynx]

Bumping

[misty moth]

3D Render of Glory that @high lynx Piotr made!! Thankyouu!

[high lynx]

[high lynx]

Bump

[misty moth]

Thankyou Piotr!

[high lynx]

Bumping

[crystal star]

Anti-Piotr measure deployed.

[devout tangle]

This time I was faster. Keep the Anti-Piotr wall up

[rancid salmon]

whats up with all the piotr slander

[high lynx]

I get my hands dirty so that the world stays clean /j /lh

[rancid salmon]

so brave of you

(and yet you still have to successfully bump my thread )

[high lynx]

I stg the one time I wrote to courier i have been recognized as "the guy who regularly bumps threads" /lh

[rancid salmon]

LMAOOO

[plain dock]

Lower than I expected 😆 /lh
Gotta get them numbers up

[high lynx]

Actually, that's cause I have been asked to delete prior bumps so they don't rack up

Only exception being EUS

[plain dock]

Yeah, I just say "super secret bump" and delete them.
Well on topic, looking forward to more cradle whenever it releases (Take as much time as you want )

[misty moth]

OH wow

Sorry I have been, busy in my personal life

[crystal star]

No, it's fine!

You can always confide in me if you'd like to.

We all can wait.

You have no obligations towards us, after all.

[misty moth]

I dont want to abandon this project though, I know I have had difficulty finishing projects in the past and Cradle is the first one I feel I have the will to finish

[crystal star]

You can do this! Just pace yourself.

Or whatever, I don't know, Unraveling is pretty difficult to write.