Excerpts from the Cascades | Rain World | Page 1

old trench Apr 28, 2024, 5:16 AM

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@dawn pebble :3

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 5:16 AM

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Thank ya :]

old trench Apr 28, 2024, 5:16 AM

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np :3

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 5:17 AM

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I guess it's time to drop the TXT files now and then put that in the library

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This is just a zip of 4 TXT files. As the readme says, best read with a monospaced font. Courier New does fine.

📎 Excerpts_from_the_Cascades_-_VOL1.zip

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I can also paste the TXT files separately if needed

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I'm kind of new to writing like this and also kind of new to writing in general so I hope it isn't too boring. I mean this is a pretty nerdy way to write a fanfiction already but like even past that I'm afraid of not having put enough cool little things or having an interesting enough central idea in general.

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The latter of which I think I'll definitely fix in later 'volumes' when I get there.

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awww I think I just noticed a typo :[

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agh I wrote the last one while tired and forgot to spellcheck this

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hold on

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Updated version.

📎 Excerpts_from_the_Cascades_-_VOL1.zip

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 1:21 PM

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Zipped, so I can’t view on mobile unfortunately

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Can you share as a txt or upload to Google docs or the like? hunterglee

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 1:32 PM

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Sure, the reason I send it as a zip was because I figured it was convenient since it's just 4 TXT files

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Here's the readme, and...

📎 README_FIRST.txt

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Here's the actual documents.

📎 Archeologists_Notes_1.txt 📎 Diary_of_Protector.txt 📎 Journal_of_Fighter.txt

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 1:39 PM

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Yeah might have to check this out when I get a chance to on PC, Unicode characters aren’t supported by the default view of these here on mobile

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I did like the excerpts you posted in chat, though, so I’ll take a look when I get the chance! c:

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 1:39 PM

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Ok cool :]

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The unicode characters are only used to draw the box thing giving the Translator's notes and also used to denote footnotes though

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 1:40 PM

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Oh so they’re not that important?

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Ok then

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 1:40 PM

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Important enough that I'd heavily recommend reading with them but not important enough that it's unreadable if you don't got em'

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I should probably state that in the readme

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 1:44 PM

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Gotcha

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 1:45 PM

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Wait I just noticed ANOTHER error GAH

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note to self: do not write at 12:00 in the morning

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I think I'm going to make future 'volumes' about more interesting topics (the most interesting I can think of right now I can't really spoil because it's a big one)

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It involves Rivulet though, and one of the funniest "We need a gameplay reason for this"-to-story change conversions ever I think

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:03 PM

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Listening to my own fangame's OST RN while trying to write the next volume (it's nothing like actual Rain World's OST) (also I made all of this music myself so this is really egotistical)

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:27 PM

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Pretty sick that you’re making your own game, own ost, own story. Mad props

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:28 PM

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thank ya

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lemmie get the vid

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okay wow youtube is being really slow for me

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https://youtu.be/Qv0wvTTSKnM here it is

ocean night Apr 28, 2024, 3:39 PM

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:0

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THIS LOOKS SO COOL???

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the art, the music story and all

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 3:42 PM

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ok im done that looks really good

ocean night Apr 28, 2024, 3:42 PM

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and the sprites!! the sprites!!

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:42 PM

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Thank you! Most of the graphics aren't from me though, I'm a terrible artist (in the regular sense)

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 3:42 PM

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yessss

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:42 PM

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When I started posting my first few concepts, a bunch of people sorta just asked to help me make it

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so now they are

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and those are the people who made most the art

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I did make most of the UI tho

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:43 PM

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Haha that chipper music at the end was unexpected

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 3:43 PM

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lead the way little dude!

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:43 PM

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This looks really cool so far!

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:43 PM

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true mantle Haha that chipper music at the end was unexpected

That's what I meant by the music being nothing like actual Rain World lol

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:43 PM

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I’d make the text/translation a little faster because there is so much of it

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:43 PM

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Yeah that's a thing I was thinking about

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right now it's just set to start 'translating' when the text is exactly half written

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:43 PM

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But the translation effect is very cool

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:43 PM

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but I should make it start like a couple letters away

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:44 PM

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true mantle But the translation effect is very cool

Yea I was inspired by La Mulana

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:44 PM

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dawn pebble but I should make it start like a couple letters away

Or speed up how quickly the text appears

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:44 PM

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ruby nimbus lead the way little dude!

I think writing for Gourmand will be fun :]

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yeah those two guys in the intro are Saint and Gourmand but you're not supposed to know that yet

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I always thought they were kinda like two sides of the same coin in Rain World

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the best I heard someone describe it (I found someone else who had the exact same idea) was that they're both two different 'solutions' in their own right

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:45 PM

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I think the story concept and work so far is very inspired. This will get attention once it’s finished and out there

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 3:46 PM

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yeah just keep updating your thread while working and try to get more people to joint too!

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:46 PM

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I think it's funny because when some of the guys just got on the team and I explained the story they asked "I don't get it, is Saint supposed to be a dick or not?" and it was confusing to them when I tried to say it was up to player interpretation LOL

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:47 PM

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Let me know if you’d like an editor for your story/writing c: you do have some minor mistakes here and there (nbd though)

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But this looks cool and I’d be happy to help

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:47 PM

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Oh actually

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:47 PM

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true mantle Let me know if you’d like an editor for your story/writing c: you do have some m...

what are those mistakes?

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 3:47 PM

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i dont really think i can help all that much but i cant try

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:47 PM

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dawn pebble what are those mistakes?

Misspellings, mostly

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:47 PM

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Oh I actually might've noticed them already

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like I say in the description I would like to edit the intro a lot

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:48 PM

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true mantle Misspellings, mostly

Dang, really??? Now I'm kind of embarrassed lol, I thought I got everything

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I did like one big sweep for spelling errors for the intro

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:49 PM

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Not in the intro I think

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Just the other stuff you’ve posted here

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:49 PM

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I'm trying to keep the development team as small as possible though (I've seen horror stories of 'too many cooks in the kitchen' type scenarios with fangames firsthand)

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so I'll only ask for help if I need any

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:49 PM

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true mantle Just the other stuff you’ve posted here

Ah okay

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:49 PM

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Haha no worries, the offer’s out there

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:50 PM

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Right now all we have is a Writer to make sure the lore seems consistent, two Artists, and a 3D Modeler for the walls and backgrounds and stuff (but I might at some point ask to help with music since they're also a good musician and I'm starting to need help with the whole OST)

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Oh and on that note: here's the full version of the Outskirts theme you heard a little bit of at the end of the intro. I like posting the music it's cool.

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 3:51 PM

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i will just be the self proclaimed marketing person and bring the thread up from time to time in story discussion xD

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:52 PM

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lol

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Oh I have a website and server set up for the game too if you're interested.

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 3:52 PM

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sure

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:52 PM

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(I asked the mods beforehand if I was allowed to advertise the server)

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I can't post server links in the server itself I don't think but I can DM it to you if you want

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 3:53 PM

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that would be nice yep!

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:53 PM

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https://charbomber.neocities.org/cf this is the website btw

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 3:54 PM

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wow, im not a programmer but that looks really good quality wise lizgreengaming

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:55 PM

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thank ya

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:55 PM

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I am a programmer and it looks really good huntercool

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:56 PM

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I'm also really proud of the battle theme because it's really good for some reason and I have no idea how I did it...

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 3:56 PM

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i love these kind of songs, 8 bit songs i think you call them??? not sure but they are a blast!

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:56 PM

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It also fits the vibe I was going for which was like a combination of rock elements (because yes that is what I love and what I make) with more 'spirity' 'earthly' 'does this make any sense' kind of stuff

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with that flute

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:56 PM

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Damn, cant open ogg on mobile

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:56 PM

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ruby nimbus i love these kind of songs, 8 bit songs i think you call them??? not sure but th...

16-bit actually

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these are SNES samples

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all from SMT 1

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 3:56 PM

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lmao

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:57 PM

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true mantle Damn, cant open ogg on mobile

lemmie send the wav versions then

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(they're taking a bit to send)

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true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 3:58 PM

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iPhone doesn’t support wav either. Would need to convert

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I’ll check em out later on pc c:

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 3:59 PM

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I can post mp3s too lol

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I thought they did support wav though...

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hold on

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(I need to export them to mp3)

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there we go

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some of my favorite songs are spoilers and I hate it 😭

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Actually this one's name barely gives it away so I'm posting it anyways because this one is like my favorite

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I don't think it's even the 'best' song and I think I'm the only one who really loves it for some reason but like I love it

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 4:03 PM

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you did all the songs right?

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 4:04 PM

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Yep

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 4:04 PM

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great job really, no plan on how you make music but they sound all really neat

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 4:05 PM

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dawn pebble It also fits the vibe I was going for which was like a combination of rock eleme...

The SMT soundfont is actually perfect for this OST because it has all the things I want which is this

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here ofc I'm using it as sort of like a parallel of the nature VS industry themes of actual Rain World whereas SMT used it's instruments as like a parallel of it's modern VS mythological themes

true mantle Apr 28, 2024, 4:06 PM

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Battle music is great

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 4:07 PM

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sorry i really have no clue but istn smt from the persona series? never played 1 or 2 (man im uncultured) but i think thats were ive seen the running in the floors from

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 4:07 PM

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ruby nimbus sorry i really have no clue but istn smt from the persona series? never played 1...

hahaha

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No, other way around

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Persona is a spinoff of the SMT series

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Persona is just more popular

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 4:07 PM

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oh god yeah i only know persona sry

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no clue were i would play the older games

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 4:09 PM

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The mainline SMT games are actually pretty consistently good so there's nothing wrong with playing the newer ones either :]

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the only mainline SMT game I don't like is SMT 5

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Early SMT is a huge inspiration for this fangame ~~to an absurd degree oops~~

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 4:10 PM

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oh i always here that the storys are really good!

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should really either find a way to play them or whatch a summory

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 4:10 PM

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they are, the story for this fangame is basically wholesale a Rain World version of something like SMT 1's plot

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oh shit

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I just got upgraded to a Monk LOL

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 4:11 PM

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i had the same reaction when that happend to me hunterkek

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also omg i would love to keep talking but i will REALLY have to keep writing now or my second chapter will never be done!!!

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 4:12 PM

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Oh yeah but replace the whole Law VS Chaos thing with uh... there's not really a name for it

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 4:12 PM

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ruby nimbus also omg i would love to keep talking but i will REALLY have to keep writing now...

oh true

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same actually LOL

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I was supposed to be writing volume 2 of the Excepts here

ruby nimbus Apr 28, 2024, 4:13 PM

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lol

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well much luck with all your projects! cant wait to see how all turns out

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 4:13 PM

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thank ya

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 5:15 PM

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I have such a cool concept for one of the endings but it is so hard to explain it in a way that sounds as cool as it would be in practice

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I'll spoiler text all of it though and try to explain anyways because I've been wanting to talk about it for so long

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But basically there are two main 'routes' through the game right? You can side with either Saint's philosophy of following in the Ancient's footsteps and ascending basically everything or you can side with Gourmand's philosophy of simply existing within the cycle as happy as you can.

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And the one I'm talking about would be for Gourmand's ending

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spoilers for the ENTIRE Gourmand ending (if this does end up being what happens and I'm pretty sure it will be because it's awesome):

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||So the concept is that once you actually beat the game on Gourmand's route, the screen suddenly like 'zaps' off like an old television screen turning off. It's revealed that the whole game was... I mean, an in-universe videogame the whole time (though a character might say 'oh this is based on a real myth' or something as to not de-canonize the whole game lol). That's because you'll start to notice that you are now in a much more advanced Slugcat civilization way far into the future, like modern times kind of advanced, which computers and whatnot. Basically, this confirms your 'cause' by showing such a successful future Slugcat civilization based on your ideals. It's also kind of funny if you think of it from the angle on how in actual Rain World Gourmand is known to be a bit of a storyteller so having your adventures be immortalized in myth and then this random videogame forever kind of fits by having the whole game have been a 'story' the whole time, if that makes any sense.||

ocean night Apr 28, 2024, 5:26 PM

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dawn pebble ||So the concept is that once you actually beat the game on Gourmand's route, th...

||its like the story that was told was reality unfolding as you complete it! Neato!!||

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 5:27 PM

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The only ideas I have for the other ending are kind of boring I gotta think about it more

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the best I had was "big mindfuck where Saint basically just gives you LSD in essay-form" which is cool and all but like also really boring and I feel like I can say that without spoilering it because I doubt that's just gonna be the whole of the final Saint ending

dawn pebble Apr 28, 2024, 5:31 PM

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dawn pebble ||So the concept is that once you actually beat the game on Gourmand's route, th...

||Oh and also this would be cool because it means I'd get to worldbuild even harder by guessing what future Slugcat shit is like lmao.||

dawn pebble Apr 29, 2024, 10:57 AM

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Haven't figured out a name yet for a certain group and am trying to think of one now

dawn pebble Apr 30, 2024, 2:13 AM

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A 'taste' of Volume 2

📎 Scrap_Log.txt

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(mainly for feedback reasons but tbh this is probably the most boring of the documents I could have chosen)

dawn pebble Apr 30, 2024, 12:05 PM

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I'm also trying to think of what some good concepts for different volumes in general would be

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I think Volume 3 should be about various jobs

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I love how eccentric and weird I get to write the guys for Volume 2 though

dawn pebble May 1, 2024, 1:27 AM

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Volume 2 is out now

📎 Excerpts_from_the_Cascades_-_VOL2_v1.0.zip

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My favorite is "Doctrine of the High Priest"

dawn pebble May 1, 2024, 7:27 PM

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Not sure about this one yet

📎 Smiths_Log.txt

ruby nimbus May 1, 2024, 7:31 PM

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will that be in volume 3?

dawn pebble May 1, 2024, 7:31 PM

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Yep

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I want Volume 3 to revolve mostly around common jobs and daily life

ruby nimbus May 1, 2024, 7:32 PM

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then i will wait with reading until you post it! hope thats not to bad

dawn pebble May 1, 2024, 7:32 PM

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That's fine by me

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I'm always worried that I post too many spoilers for the things I make so I'm glad to see people not wanting to spoil themselves lmao

true mantle May 2, 2024, 1:18 AM

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What’s your stance on concrit? You asked for feedback but I wanna know what parts exactly you want feedback on :3

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Like if it’s just the world/lore details, or you want feedback on the writing itself, or?

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 1:30 AM

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true mantle Like if it’s just the world/lore details, or you want feedback on the writing it...

I'll take feedback on anything

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sorry for the late reply btw

true mantle May 2, 2024, 1:31 AM

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Haha no worries! I’m reading through amany’s fic atm but when I’m done I’ll stop back in

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 1:31 AM

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cool

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:07 AM

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So for context are these logs you would find in game or are they just extra stuff you’re writing for worldbuilding?

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:08 AM

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Extra stuff I'm writing for the worldbuilding. You wouldn't be able to find these in-game (some are gonna be referenced in-game though) but you'd be able to find them all in-universe.

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:08 AM

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dawn pebble Not sure about this one yet

Actually this one (and the reason it's kind of weird and a stand-out) only exists to reference a thing in the game.

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:11 AM

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Ah just finished

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I can tell! I’m assuming this legendary spear is something you can acquire

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I like this. Some more spelling mistakes here and there (no biggie)

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:12 AM

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Dang, really?

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aughhh I'm spoiled by Discord spellcheck

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I used to be really good at spelling lmao

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:12 AM

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I think maybe the openings are a little dry? It doesn’t feel entirely like a log the smith would be writing for themselves

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The openings to each log i mean

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:12 AM

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yeah

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Well

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technically they aren't though I guess, I think the assumption is something like

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they'll share with with potential future smiths or something I don't know

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Then again

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that wouldn't help the starts much either lol

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:14 AM

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I think even just uh

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Removing the beginning of those sentences would help

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So

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Instead of “I have made a spear which explodes on impact”

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You could really just go for “A spear which explodes on impact.” As the intro sentence—feels punchier and a little less repetitive

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:15 AM

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Hmmm

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That's good but I want to mess with the idea a bit hold on

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(thank you btw)

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:15 AM

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Ofc!

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And anything I say is a mere suggestion of course

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:16 AM

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Oh you know what though? The thing that hurt me most about writing this

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:16 AM

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You could also intro with the same thing as a title rather than a sentence

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:16 AM

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I can't use the word "Today" lmao

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"Today" doesn't make sense, there is no concept of days, only cycles

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:16 AM

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Right they use cycle

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:16 AM

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"Tocycle"???

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Or maybe I should use "Today" anyways because this is a theoretical translation and that would be the closest translation

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:16 AM

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I think you can still say this day (not ‘today’ but referencing the time of day)

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:17 AM

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Seriously though just having access to the word "Today" would help this significantly I feel like LOL

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:17 AM

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This night—this morning—this day

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:18 AM

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Rain World offers such weird writing challenges because there's little things like this which completely change how you write

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:18 AM

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Do you mind if I do a little edit to show how I would maybe word these?

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:18 AM

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I don't mind. What part specifically?

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:21 AM

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Just gonna grab one as an example

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:22 AM

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Fun fact: earlier drafts of this one only mention the lizard story at the end but it felt really weird and kind of like... 'fanfictioney'(???) like not even because it's fanfiction but like idk how else to describe it so I added the earlier stories to fix that.

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I had to fix this up a lot even to what it is now, the first draft was rough

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:23 AM

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Ah I have a question as I’m editing

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:23 AM

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Yeah?

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:23 AM

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They mention the technique is difficult—are they talking about forging the spear being difficult or the use of it?

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Electric spear

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:23 AM

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Difficult to make it

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though I bet using it is a bit hard too lol

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But when a smith is talking technique they usually mean to say the creation of it, right?

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:24 AM

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Gotcha

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“This technique is of the more difficult, but this spear is flawed” I had trouble understanding because you used ‘but’ here, implying contradiction to the previous statement

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So I was just double checking the intention

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:25 AM

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Ah okay

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It's not technically a contradiction

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You can make something masterfully but it turns out flawed by your standards

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which was what I was going for

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and you could have a real hard time making something and it can come out flawed too

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:29 AM

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Right but they implied the technique was difficult, so the implication is that it is not perfect

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:29 AM

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Oh you might've misread it then

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:30 AM

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If they said “the technique is difficult, but it is perfect” it would make more sense

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:30 AM

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OH

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right okay yeah

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you either misread it or I worded it wrong and didn't realize

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let me re-read this hold on

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:30 AM

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Or the technique is simple, but it is not perfect

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:30 AM

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right okay

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:30 AM

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It should be “so” or even “and”

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:31 AM

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"This technique is of the more difficult, but this spear is flawed."

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It doesn't mean the technique is flawed it means the resulting spear

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:31 AM

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Anyway this is my edit, didn’t change much just the presentation a bit and some very tiny word changes

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:31 AM

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dawn pebble It doesn't mean the technique is flawed it means the resulting spear

If the technique is difficult, it makes sense for the result to be flawed

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Making the but sort of strange?

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Because the implication is that the task was difficult, SO the spear is flawed

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:32 AM

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OH okay I see what you're saying now

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I was confused again

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Well I mean

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okay

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hold on

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:33 AM

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Again anything I correct is only a suggestion c:

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:33 AM

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Yeah IK I just was confused at what you were saying two times in a row

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At first I thought you misread it as the technique being bad and then I thought you saw a direct correlation between technique good spear good and I was confused on both

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but I see what you mean now

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:34 AM

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Miscommunications are fun!

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We got there in the end :3

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I tend to try to edit sentences to be a little punchier. Get across the same meaning with as few words as you can (without losing impact)

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:36 AM

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dawn pebble they'll share with with potential future smiths or something I don't know

Actually now I want to try rewriting this with this in-mind

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because it will make more sense, be more flavorful, and I think improve it just in general

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:37 AM

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Ooo do it

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:37 AM

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This is supposed to be like Scug Masamune and their teachings of the way of the spear lol

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TBH this document only exists to fuel my chronic addiction of naming fantasy weapons

true mantle May 2, 2024, 2:38 AM

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dawn pebble TBH this document only exists to fuel my chronic addiction of naming fantasy wea...

A valid reason

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I have a bad habit of not writing down my worldbuilding stuff and keeping it in my head where I later forget about it

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But I’m more interested in writing the story than the world slugwhy

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:39 AM

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I wonder if I should share some of the cutscenes I have written down for the game here too...

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I had a cool interaction with Saint at the start of the game that I like talking about because it's a small thing and I love small things

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You're required to pick up Saint as a party member near the start of the game to get past some guards and at first they just ask you if you can take them with to the next area and most normal people say "yes" to that immediately but if you say "no" they then try to pay you for it instead.

If you say no at first but then agree to payment, the game keeps track and they really do pay you later for it. I thought that was fun.

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Actually that little thing alone drastically increased the amount of dialogue I had to write lol

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I would send that here but the dialogue has changed and grown rapidly in the code over than what little I wrote down in the big cutscene document and I assume nobody wants to read a bunch of screenshots that look like this lol

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I give up I'm just putting this footnote in

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 12:09 PM

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Today I realized that Volume 3 is not very fun to write LMAO

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at-least my idea for Volume 4 will be REALLY fun to write (one of my favorite subjects)

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I'm going to start Volume 4 and if I finish it before Volume 3 I will release Volume 4 first and I will not care LOL

true mantle May 2, 2024, 1:31 PM

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dawn pebble I'm going to start Volume 4 and if I finish it before Volume 3 I will release Vo...

When I’m not feeling current chapters I do just write later ones. And then having those written makes me want to get to them even more, which motivates me to write the current ones…

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It’s not a bad strat

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 1:35 PM

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yea lol

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Damn more spoilers sorry but also this is my favorite thing to write ever. Actually, second-favorite, Doctrine of the High Priest will always be my #1 most fun thing to have wrote.

dawn pebble May 2, 2024, 2:17 PM

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Just thought of something

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Iterators probably tried explaining at some point to at-least one slugcat how Ancients genetically modified things

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it would be funny if this was misinterpreted as "They created creatures out of writing" or something and now there's like a holy grail out there in the Slugcat genome or whatever

dawn pebble May 3, 2024, 12:40 AM

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agh all of Volume 3 is gonna be boring

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okay that's a lie, exactly half of Volume 3 is gonna be boring

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okay nevermind I know some things to add to Volume 3 to make it interesting now

dawn pebble May 4, 2024, 2:39 PM

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No context update on the fangame (not the excerpts)

dawn pebble May 4, 2024, 5:13 PM

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Volume 3 is almost done and I'm listening to this rn while finishing it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH_8zpgh_ms

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good-ass work music

dawn pebble May 4, 2024, 5:56 PM

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Volume 3 includes some transcripts of recordings that also include a length for the recordings and to get a realistic length for every recording I had to actually get out a stopwatch and time how long it would take for every recording to actually be read out loud and then I copied the results

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Finally finished! This one has a lot, and some of those are boring... sorry. I hope most of them are interesting though, I think all of the aforementioned recordings were.

📎 Excerpts_from_the_Cascades_-_VOL3_v1.0.zip

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Tell me about any mistakes I may have made

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wait

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okay yeah I made a major mistake

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Oops

📎 Excerpts_from_the_Cascades_-_VOL3_v1.1.zip

ruby nimbus May 4, 2024, 6:48 PM

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will have to read that later cause ive just gotten home from work but cant wait lizgreengaming

dawn pebble May 4, 2024, 6:49 PM

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nice

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I'm worried about some of them being 'useless' or boring or bad in some way.
('Useless' as in like, it doesn't really tell you anything and doesn't have enough of a reason to be there.)

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And mistakes too, I'm worried about missing things because I feel like it would've been really easy for me to have missed things in this.

ruby nimbus May 4, 2024, 8:30 PM

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ok i still havent read it and i wont for today anymore because its really later and work was exsauting but i think that stuff that dosnt really have a reason to be their is hard to actually do. their will almost always be some sort of info you will give, be it world building or character moments. not everything has to be plot heavy all the time, their always needs to be some time to breath.
also sry that i cant read it today anymore but im really tired and im going to bed now. i will try to read it tomorrow though! and again dont worry too much, mistakes too will always happen. i will always remember when i posted my chapter and didnt realize i wrote licking instead of liking monknervous

dawn pebble May 4, 2024, 8:33 PM

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ruby nimbus ok i still havent read it and i wont for today anymore because its really later ...

Well I mean, the way I'm writing this is very unconventional. For example there are some txt files included with this that for all intents and purposes are completely "useless", or at-least the contents are, but even just the 'existence' of them provides some kind of value and whatnot so while they might not be fun to read in a sense they give value just from existing.

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But even so I'm worried about it feeling like they give too little value in general or that there's even something feeling 'useless' in the generally more normally-written ones.

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as far as I'm concerned, if something in these documents doesn't give you a better idea of what the greater world is like I think that's fluff and probably shouldn't be included.

ruby nimbus May 4, 2024, 8:37 PM

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tbh if i would call sth 'useless' the closest thing for that right now is the scrab log in volume 2 but i dont really think you can call that useless becasue of the way you tell your story. in another story i would just skip all over it and being completly honest i didnt read the entire thing but the way you structore stuff with the logs, the entires, the doctrins, when your job characters describe their cycles and etc. while it might not be the most interesting stuff to read if still feels like it belongs in their. it fits the tone so i wouldnt call it useless. building an atmosphere is also a good reason to exist

dawn pebble May 4, 2024, 8:40 PM

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well I mean yeah that's what I'm talking about, I wouldn't necessarily call things like the Scrap Log entirely useless since even though it's boring the fact that it exists and some of the little quirks in it provides some kind of value.

Sometimes though I feel like I've just made something like that but it doesn't even have any quirks and doesn't say enough about the world to mean anything lol

ruby nimbus May 4, 2024, 8:43 PM

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if that is still in regards to volume 3 i can give feat back tomorrow but while i like to think that everything has a reason to be in a story, if you have a few parts that dont, as long if its not the majority of the story, i dont really see a problem with it. again though, i think one would really need to try hard or be really unlucky to write sth that has 100% no value to your work

dawn pebble May 4, 2024, 11:47 PM

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I think there's a chance Volume 4 might be the last volume... which is weird to think about because I thought there would be way more to write 😳

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Well, last volume before I start working on the game again at-least

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there just doesn't feel like much else to write about until the game's finished

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 4:43 AM

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im awakeeee!

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time to start volume 3 nightsalute

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ok done, tbh im sad to hear that there will only be one more volume but its always better to end when you done instead of going on with no more ideas

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Not sure what was my favourite this time, eiither the Smashers Log or Overseer Recording 4

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Also Rip those Echo gurads monkdesperation

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Ik that is also a bit late to say but i didnt bring it up until now. I really like the way the chapters all kinda have their Foot Notes and Translater Notes. Just like with the Scrap Log it really helps set the Atmosphere.

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Ok and now that i have two hints for how i can desipher the Pascode i will try that lizblueblep

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 6:31 AM

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ok nah, still nothing. guess i will have to wait for volume 4

tepid trout May 5, 2024, 9:47 AM

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i have no idea what cipher was used for volume 3 lmao

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even when i know the code

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 11:01 AM

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ruby nimbus ok done, tbh im sad to hear that there will only be one more volume but its alwa...

Actually, I think there will be 5 Volumes now, but I'm not sure.

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 11:02 AM

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ruby nimbus ok nah, still nothing. guess i will have to wait for volume 4

Yeah volume 4 will be the easiest don't worry lol

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Actually I'm already really close to finishing Volume 4 too since I worked on it a bit while making 3

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 11:04 AM

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ruby nimbus Not sure what was my favourite this time, eiither the Smashers Log or Overseer R...

That's weird I thought the Smasher ones would be too boring lmao

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but they were kinda fun

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they're mostly just there to explain the existence of a Smasher which isn't important but interesting enough that I included it.

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 11:05 AM

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idk why but i found the smasher one just really funny, my humor is kinda bad but i still liked it saintsmirk

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also its an interesting piece of world building

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 11:06 AM

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I thought about it and was like "Would someone have a job specifically for smashing history to make money? I think they would, that's funny."

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I wonder if they do it like Howtobasic and they just throw it at a wall 20 times in a row

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 12:26 PM

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Volume 4 includes an angry essay by someone and I'm getting weirdly into it

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like I can just feel their rage while writing out this long pretentious essay just as a big "fuck you"

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 12:57 PM

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📎 Excerpts_from_the_Cascades_-_VOL4_v1.0.zip

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Wait I forgot to check if I made a mistake

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Okay I don't think I did?

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Okay yeah I did but it's fine

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 1:42 PM

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I'm considering uploading all of this to my website now

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and then maybe asking to get a link pinned of the download for it on my website

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 2:35 PM

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I tried working on the game again but I got distracted by watching Game Center CX...

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 4:48 PM

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Reposting all the current volumes

📎 Excerpts_from_the_Cascades_-_VOL1_v1.2.zip 📎 Excerpts_from_the_Cascades_-_VOL2_v1.0.zip 📎 Excerpts_from_the_Cascades_-_VOL3_v1.1.zip 📎 Excerpts_from_the_Cascades_-_VOL4_v1.0.zip

short bear May 5, 2024, 5:25 PM

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Time to give this a shot. :3

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 5:25 PM

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oh, nice

mighty kraken May 5, 2024, 5:42 PM

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I'm going to have to read this in chunks, there is a lot here! I'm not sure this is 100% my kind of premise, but, the doctrine of the high priest was, charmingly dumb? In an intentional way I feel

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Its interesting enough to make me want to read more 🙂

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 5:48 PM

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Nice

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yeah I knew going into it that it probably wasn't for everyone

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the idea was basically "if a textbook was about Rain World"

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some people go "OOOOH more stuff to read about Rain World!" and some people go "Oh it's a textbook ew"

mighty kraken May 5, 2024, 5:55 PM

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Can you find the PW for the locked file in the volume its in, or are you going to need stuff from outside?

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 5:57 PM

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You can find it from the filename of the zip

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the code gets easier to crack with later volumes, and it's the same PW every time

mighty kraken May 5, 2024, 5:57 PM

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Ahh, I see

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I accidentally read volume 2 before volume 1 oops

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:00 PM

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The order mostly doesn't matter

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(Volume 4 though I would definitely recommend reading last)

mighty kraken May 5, 2024, 6:37 PM

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As a nitpick exchange that I previously held back, the word "career" (in the archeologist's diary in the first file) only came to describe someone's occupation in recent times

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I'm not sure how accurate this is but "having a job" is an invention of modern capitalism you probably wouldent find in medieval society

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May be wrong but eh :p

short bear May 5, 2024, 6:39 PM

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Small thing I notice in the diary of protector file. You wrote expidition instead of expedition

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Protector is adorable

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:43 PM

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short bear Small thing I notice in the diary of protector file. You wrote expidition instea...

Damn, thanks for catching that

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:43 PM

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short bear Protector is adorable

also thank you :]

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:44 PM

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mighty kraken I'm not sure how accurate this is but "having a job" is an invention of modern c...

Where do you think names like "Smith" came from?

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From what I know, in Medieval times names like that came from because your name was your job, usually

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Which is why we have names like Smith and Tanner and Hunter

mighty kraken May 5, 2024, 6:45 PM

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you know that is fair

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:45 PM

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job is not a modern invention at all ~~and even if it was they woulda got it from Ancients anyways lol~~

short bear May 5, 2024, 6:46 PM

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Hach, Fighter is such a charming fellow.

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:47 PM

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Yeah I had a bit of fun with the different perspectives in Volume 1

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You learn so much just from what people notice, what people leave out, ect

short bear May 5, 2024, 6:48 PM

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You did well. It especially stood out how fighter just skipped the descend into the hole, while protector was excited and even wrote down some theories

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:48 PM

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I thought it would be really funny if one of them got in an argument with the lead of the expedition and was suddenly like "You know what? Awful, all of them. Archeologists are terrible. I hate this."

short bear May 5, 2024, 6:49 PM

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Pff

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Also you mention in the readme that these are for a game? A mod for rainworld? Or something different?

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:50 PM

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A fangame

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I can probably find some screenshots of it

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it's nothing like actual Rain World

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It looks like this and is an RPG

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(I am an RPG fiend)

short bear May 5, 2024, 6:52 PM

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Ohhh, one of these! slugsparkle

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:52 PM

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yep

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I love the translation effect for dialogue :]]]

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I worked so hard on it

short bear May 5, 2024, 6:52 PM

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Ok, that makes me chuckle. The high priest is so lovable dull

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:52 PM

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Yep

short bear May 5, 2024, 6:53 PM

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Damn! The translation effect is buttery smooth

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:53 PM

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They don't even know they are a "High Priest" they just think they have a very large very trusted friendgroup

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:53 PM

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short bear Damn! The translation effect is buttery smooth

Mhm

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DAMN I just remembered that I forgot to put in one of the things I was most excited for in writing for these

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and I can't fit it into Volume 5

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I wanted to put a whole thing in on Lizard Taming

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I should sneak it in an 'update' lol

short bear May 5, 2024, 6:59 PM

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There are further expiditions in overseer recordings 2

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 6:59 PM

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dammit

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thank you again

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I am going to change all of these now

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this is good feedback before I 'fully' release these on like my website or whatever

short bear May 5, 2024, 7:01 PM

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I like how you manage to make them so engaging despite being so short. Well usable for a game

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:02 PM

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These aren't going in the game, they're just bonus things to read to get a better understanding of the world outside the game

short bear May 5, 2024, 7:02 PM

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Ohh, I see

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:03 PM

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Oh and also I think I went really ham on Volume 4 trying to make it a good 'hook' too

short bear May 5, 2024, 7:03 PM

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Still at 3

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:04 PM

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I feel like I'm pretty good at writing things that give the same 'mysterious yet terrified curiosity' feeling like with Deltarune Chapter 1's release and intro and whatnot

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at-least, that's what I try going for sometimes when I write something

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Like you wanna know more but also what you just read was way too ominous

short bear May 5, 2024, 7:09 PM

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Ok, the smith log is quite well done. You can feel the urge for perfection, of someone who is burning for their craft. But upon reaching it, conscience kicks in followed by the desire to undo.
Why he didn't simply deconstruct it again is however beyond me

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:10 PM

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I mean, could you deconstruct a sharp metal spike?

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Also that's actually kind of a surprise because I thought that one was the least well-written LOL

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also the premise felt generic

short bear May 5, 2024, 7:11 PM

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Just the right amount of generic.

And yes, just purposely fail the spear by reheating and bending it

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:11 PM

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...Hm, yeah you're right I guess lol

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but it's a GOOD thing they didn't think of that because NOW I have an excuse as to why there's a really cool spear in my game!

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(That entire document solely exists to reference the ultimate weapon you can find in the game)

short bear May 5, 2024, 7:13 PM

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Ohhh

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Also I am too stupid for the corrupted signal

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:13 PM

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It's easiest in Volume 4

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All the other Volumes have like at-least 2 layers of encryption I think

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Volume 4's is just one really simple one

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I don't want to give away the answer though

short bear May 5, 2024, 7:16 PM

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Argh, why does the corrupted signal file relocates it to appdata? I guess that is necessary for the password?

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:17 PM

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That sounds like it might just be a problem with your unzipping tool

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sorry 'bout that though, yeah it is probably because of the password

short bear May 5, 2024, 7:21 PM

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Huh, ok I cracked it. Still...hmm

short bear May 5, 2024, 7:37 PM

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Yep, I am too dumb to figure out the who

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:37 PM

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Oh

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have you tried uh

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||putting in the name of every male character in Rain World?||

short bear May 5, 2024, 7:38 PM

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Oh, expanded, I see. Thought the clues have to be findable in the logs

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 7:39 PM

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wait huuhhhh?!?!?!

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:39 PM

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Well there were so few options I thought it made sense

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 7:39 PM

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volume 4 already???

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:39 PM

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Yeah

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Not even a day after Volume 3

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 7:39 PM

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gimmi a second thats way quicker then i thought

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wait wait i will check all the rest and then read it

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thats not what i expected but its a nice suprise monkdesperation

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wait but will it be the end or will you still do another one?

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:41 PM

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There will be one more

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and in-fact, it's already done

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but I want to wait on releasing it

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you'll probably see why, if I get it done on time

mighty kraken May 5, 2024, 7:43 PM

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Finally got it

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 7:43 PM

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the pasword?

mighty kraken May 5, 2024, 7:43 PM

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Ye

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 7:44 PM

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maaaaan why am i so bad at this kind of stuff slughuh

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:44 PM

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That's when you ask other people who already figured it out via DMs tbh

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 7:44 PM

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no!

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i can do it!

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:44 PM

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fair enough

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that's how I do hard games lol

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 7:45 PM

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i hope i will get it with the newest hint now

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but i still have to read it

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will start now lizblueblep

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 7:45 PM

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cool

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 8:00 PM

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ok done. this time i really cant decide which is my favourite. they were all great but if i had to it would be between Seeking Truth, Tales from the Outskirts or that which lies below. those three kind of hit the hardest but zProblem and Two Roads were also neat. will volume 5 be the last one?

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 8:02 PM

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Yeah, probably. That is, unless I decide to make more after the actual fangame is released.

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Which I might do.

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I don't know if I'd have as much material though.

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Or who knows, maybe I'd have more because I'd have more questions about the world to think about after the game is finished.

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 8:05 PM

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how far is the progress with the game even at the moment? i saw the into cut scene that you uploaded on youtube wasnt posted all that long ago (even if it was an overworked version) so i didnt think you were all that far for now but you make it sound like you almost done?

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 8:06 PM

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Oh, it's nowhere near done lol

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I never said I would be posting any of them after 5 soon

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just that I would maybe after the game lol

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though I can't wait because development is very close to a tipping point where it will start to go by way faster

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 8:06 PM

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dawn pebble That's when you ask other people who already figured it out via DMs tbh

also yeah pls someone dm the pasword. decyphering stuff was not made for me and i officially give up

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 8:07 PM

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We ARE making progress on a demo however. We're like... 2/10ths the way there or something.

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The biggest hurdles will be the base barebones RPG parts, which are why RPGs are so hard to make.

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Right now I'm aiming to have every button in the battle screen do something and be finished and work, and I'm very close to being there

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after that I think I'll do battle animations and then battles in general will be done

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and then that's when we can just speed through the rest of development and get it done

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but yeah that's basically it

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Oh right Soulwing you weren't here when I posted the updated intro

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did you want a link to that?

short bear May 5, 2024, 8:09 PM

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sure

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 8:10 PM

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https://youtu.be/Qv0wvTTSKnM

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oh and you can find more about the game https://charbomber.neocities.org/cf here

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 8:10 PM

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ok i got the pasword, i will quickly read the rest!

ruby nimbus May 5, 2024, 8:11 PM

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dawn pebble and then that's when we can just speed through the rest of development and get i...

your the expert here saintunyoy

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 8:12 PM

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I already have the story mostly planned out, it's pretty cool

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BTW "That Which Lies Below"'s name is a reference to my favorite song I made for the soundtrack so far

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I love bragging about it

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it is absolutely spoilers but I absolutely do not care I share it all the time

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short bear May 5, 2024, 8:15 PM

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ohh, nice intro. Reminds me a bit of the mystery dungeon intros with the questions

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 8:15 PM

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Oh I haven't played enough Mystery Dungeon to know what you mean by that lol

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OH

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you mean the intro video

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nevermind yeah I know what you mean

short bear May 5, 2024, 8:15 PM

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yep, the personality tests

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 8:15 PM

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It was inspired by both Mystery Dungeon and also something more obscure

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SMT Demon Summoner for the Sega Saturn has you answer an entire questionnaire at the start that is mostly useless and only exists for flavor but I loved it for how detailed it was and really getting you into the game

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Oh actually that and of all things another SMT game

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SMT Soul Hackers has you answer a single menial question at the start that actually affects your partner character's entire build

short bear May 5, 2024, 8:17 PM

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That was far before my time :P

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 8:17 PM

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so I tried combining all of that to make the intro basically

true mantle May 5, 2024, 8:18 PM

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man I never see saturn games mentioned

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I had one as a kid

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 8:18 PM

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Oh, cool

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if you lived in Japan you might've had a slight chance of being able to have played SMT Devil Summoner then LOL

true mantle May 5, 2024, 8:19 PM

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haven't heard of that particular game though 🤔

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 8:19 PM

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I'm gonna be honest this entire dang project is laced with SMT

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absolutely chock full of it

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the gameplay is stolen from SMT, the (planned) difficulty, even the story

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It's basically just a Rain World version of a typical SMT story

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I am somehow both ashamed and not ashamed of the blatantness of it

true mantle May 5, 2024, 8:21 PM

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sometimes you just gotta vent your love for things

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nothing wrong with taking heavy inspiration :3c

dawn pebble May 5, 2024, 8:21 PM

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I probably fell into it because the core idea of the story (which was the first thought put into the game) was already very SMT adjacent and I sorta just put it together

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If you don't know anything about SMT (which you probably don't) the first couple of games were usually about Law VS Chaos. Except, not in the typical "Light VS Dark" Fantasy RPG way. They tried (keyword tried, the earlier ones had a harder time lmao) to give good arguments for both sides and then let you choose which one you agree with more.

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I wanted something like that but with the two big ways you can "solve" the great problem in Rain World

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The only problem for me is finding good arguments for one side in particular lmao, I am very obviously biased, I might need to ask other people with different opinions if I want to make the story good

dawn pebble May 6, 2024, 12:11 AM

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If someone asks me a question about the world that doesn't happen to lead to a spoiler I'll answer it (I feel bad for having such a short run on this tbh)

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(also it helps with worldbuilding ideas idk)

dawn pebble May 6, 2024, 7:30 PM

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I have absolutely no idea whether or not I should ONLY talk about the actual writing part of the whole Cascades thing here or if I am allowed to talk about random tidbits about the game too

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because now I want, like, a second place to complain about how I had to just redo a lot of code lol

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 1:10 AM

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I am so desperate to get my ideas out for the game and am deadass considering just writing out like the entire important story transcript for the game as a thing to post here for advice so that it might be better before I actually get there when making the game

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or like

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just making a dumb novel version of it lol

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the exact opposite route of the Digital Devil books lmao
...holy shit I need to stop only having things to say about that one series alone.

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It's on the mind, okay?

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Wait that's not even an entirely terrible idea because it would force me to think about things in the story ahead of time more instead of just "doing it when I get to it"

true mantle May 7, 2024, 1:15 AM

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dawn pebble I am so desperate to get my ideas out for the game and am deadass considering ju...

Nothing wrong with this! This is such a tiny community here in stories that it’s not like the majority of your players are being spoiled

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 1:16 AM

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Actually it would be exactly half of the projected players

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💀

true mantle May 7, 2024, 1:16 AM

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Most people who make games are either working with writers or are feeding their story through testers and editors and getting feedback

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 1:16 AM

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actually not half, only Amany Flags joined the discord for it technically

true mantle May 7, 2024, 1:16 AM

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You think more players won’t find it after its release? I think word would get around

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 1:17 AM

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so more like 1/4

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1/5?

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1/6.

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lol

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Anyways I have no idea how I would format that in a way that would be fun to read

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because like IDK if I would make it just like a '''normal''' story transcript or if I would actually format it like a real fanfiction or what

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I think formatting it like a regular fanfiction would kill me and be a bit hard to do since it's a different kind of story than that but would probably be more fun to read but formatting it as a transcript I bet would be a bit more alien and hard to read

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I guess I would have to map out the story more beforehand ~~which was the idea behind it anyways~~

true mantle May 7, 2024, 1:21 AM

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The main reason I haven’t read it all yet is because of the format and I’m primarily on mobile

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 1:21 AM

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ah

true mantle May 7, 2024, 1:21 AM

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But that doesn’t mean you should change it

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If you want more reach, though, it’s worth considering

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 1:22 AM

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Well I mean I was talking about the coneptual game story transcript thing but yeah the excerpts are certainly a different format too

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I like it for that though

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I think it has a charm

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I don't see nearly as much charm in a transcript though which is why I'm more iffy on that lmao

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If you want me to just send you all the TXT files individually I can

true mantle May 7, 2024, 1:23 AM

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I also think it has charm!

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No I will be reading it on pc c:

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 1:24 AM

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alright, then

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I should have like... a vote, but I don't know if anyone would vote on it lmao

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I'm gonna try anyways

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...oh wait, you can't do polls here

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uhh, I'll do a makeshift one instead

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I wanna try something like releasing a written version of the fangame's story, mostly for feedback purposes.
Please react to this with 📜 if you want the regular normal book-like version.
Instead react with 🎞️ if you would instead want a transcript of sorts detailing the events of the game.
If you don't care, react with 🫲.
If you don't want to see that at all for some reason, react with 🚫.

true mantle May 7, 2024, 1:35 AM

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We a stories sub so I’m going for book huntercool

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It also feels like a good supplement to the game rather than just being the game’s transcript

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 1:35 AM

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right

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that's what I was assuming most people would say

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but idk that's why there's a vote

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 2:05 AM

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Right, I think the vote is going in the way of the normal

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in that case... there's gonna have to be two versions :]

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or I have people vote on which version they want

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or both and I release one version first and the other after

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Gonna have to pick between Pokemon Saint version or Pokemon Gourmand version

true mantle May 7, 2024, 2:53 AM

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Banan votes saint!

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 2:55 AM

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That'l come later

ruby nimbus May 7, 2024, 3:14 AM

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dawn pebble I wanna try something like releasing a written version of the fangame's story, m...

not sure if that counts but i think both a written version and a transcript would be neat. god i think that would be way much work not sure so i would understand why you wouldnt do it, but the transcript would feel more in your style (if that makes sense). Also while that could be your main way to tell the story you could then additionally post a book version so it could get a broader reach.
But dont think im all for that. while i think it would be kinda cool to have both, i can imagine that it would just be way more work that would not really be needed artiwh

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 3:15 AM

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Well the Transcript is more from the utilitarian angle of "I want feedback and this is the easiest way to get that" but the Book-style is the angle of "This could be a fun additional thing as well as potraying the story in a way that makes more sense to most readers"

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It's unlikely that I do both since if I do the Book-style approach it's probably about the same in a utility sense as if I had just posted a transcript, just more effort

ruby nimbus May 7, 2024, 3:17 AM

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yeah that makes sense, then id say either go after the vote or just how you would like to do it more

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 3:20 AM

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I think the most likely thing that's going to happen is the book but the more I'm thinking of the logistics the more that I see it will probably come out something like one of those weird adaptations of videogames you see sometimes like when they make a videogame into a show

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which is kinda funny

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Hang on I just realized that this is... weirdly, scarily, and annoyingly close to that one genre of fiction I can't for the life of me put a name on

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definitely not it exactly, but weirdly close and I don't like it lmao

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the fuckin' uhhh

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"Teenagers find supernatural other world and use it to solve shit in the real world" genre. Not like Harry Potter but other stuff like it. I HATE that.

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Actually IG in the original Harry Potter they aren't teenagers

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I'm like 99% sure the genre is popularly mostly teenagers though

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I forgot the name of that other book, I never read it and I've only ever heard about it, I was going to use it as an example though

ruby nimbus May 7, 2024, 3:35 AM

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yeah no i have no clue

true mantle May 7, 2024, 3:42 AM

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ah yeah this is so much better to read on pc lol

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 3:48 AM

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Is it good so far?

true mantle May 7, 2024, 3:48 AM

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barely started!

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but yes c:

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 3:48 AM

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thank you :]

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:01 AM

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I'm catching some typos here and there. want me to note them?

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:02 AM

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I think most of them are already noted

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are you talking about the multiple "expidition"s?

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those are already documented

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I fixed them but they aren't in the version you downloaded

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if you found any others though feel free to say

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:03 AM

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more than those

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:03 AM

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right, then yes

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:03 AM

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👍

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I like the first archaeologist log a lot!

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good set up :3c very curious what they found

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it serves as a good intro to their society's culture around jobs too

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:09 AM

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true mantle good set up :3c very curious what they found

To be honest... I was setting up for showing what they found, but I straight up just forgot to

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I'm still kind of angry at myself for that lmao

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:10 AM

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hah! don't leave us hanging!

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Protector's personality is fun, I love them

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:14 AM

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There are a good few fun quirky characters

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mostly just at the start though IG

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since later ones are setting up for characters and things in the actual game

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:16 AM

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they're strangely perceptive!

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:17 AM

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I thought it would be kind of funny if one of the random bodyguards were a bit of a better archeologist than the actual archeologist

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:17 AM

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I love that lmao

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other than typos the biggest mistake I'm seeing grammatically is hyphens being used where they shouldn't be 🤔 I would suggest researching how to use them c: but it's not a huge deal

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:23 AM

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I'm sorry but I'm a hyphen-using super-maniac, you can take the hyphens out of my text but you can't take my text out of the hyphens

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:24 AM

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haha as long as you're aware hunterglee

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:25 AM

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I remember one time reading someone saying "Who even uses hyphens in Discord?" and getting unreasonably upset

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:26 AM

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i use them pretty often!

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mostly for emphasis

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:26 AM

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I think I just finished my notes for one version of the story

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I'll start writing the second half then head to bed

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:27 AM

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just finished vol 1!

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it's a lot of fun, I like getting a look into this scug community

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:28 AM

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Thank you

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every volume is based on a different area of such scug community

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Volume 2 is one of if not my favorite

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:29 AM

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i can stick the typos I found in a .txt for you if that works?

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:29 AM

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That works for me, and thanks

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although I probably should've slapped this in a typo-finder beforehand...

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I'm usually pretty good on typos I think because if I spell a word and I feel like I spelt it wrong I always spellcheck it to make sure

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:30 AM

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i'll remove the hyphen notes haha

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:30 AM

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actually keep them

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I was mostly just joking earlier lol

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:30 AM

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oh okay!

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i stopped noted them oops

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:31 AM

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It's fine

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I'll probably just read through and look for them myself anyways

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:32 AM

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📎 typovol1.txt

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ah looks like i fixed that first type in the text after i noted it haha

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just take my word for that its there ;v;

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:33 AM

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Oh... I'm embarrassed about "vacinity", I feel like I should have caught that

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:33 AM

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nbd typos happen haha

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onto vol 2 c:

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:33 AM

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Oh I think some of these are just alternate spellings

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:34 AM

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which is probably where I will stop for the night but I will read the rest tomorrow!

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today got away from me

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:34 AM

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oh... nope nevermind

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it was just my (very dumb) spell checker lying to me

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:34 AM

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i double checked them all!

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:34 AM

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...I should get a better spell-checker than looking the word up on google LOL

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:34 AM

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grammarly is what I run my fic through for final edit

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:35 AM

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Oh, I would recommend against using Grammarly. I remember hearing they have an absurdly predatory ToS.

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:35 AM

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though it isn't perfect

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:35 AM

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I'm sure there's some random spellchecking website out there that works though.

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:35 AM

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:0

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:35 AM

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That or just pasting it in a Google Doc

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:35 AM

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i don't use it for only spellchecking, i'll look into the tos issue

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:36 AM

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It was a while ago that I heard about it, but it was something along the lines of "They basically own everything you write with it" which is not great.

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:36 AM

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wha

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:36 AM

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Yeah! It's REALLY insane!

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:38 AM

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you should ask a mod to pin the message with the zips :3

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:38 AM

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Well actually, there's a reason I haven't asked to do that yet

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which is because I want proofreading like this done before I have more 'final' versions of every Volume

old trench May 7, 2024, 4:38 AM

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true mantle you should ask a mod to pin the message with the zips :3

:3

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:38 AM

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then I upload it to like my website or something

old trench May 7, 2024, 4:38 AM

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hello

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:38 AM

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and then I ask for the website to be pinned

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or wherever I host the zips

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:39 AM

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SUMMONED!!

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behold my powers

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:39 AM

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evil summoning ritual completed.....

old trench May 7, 2024, 4:39 AM

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monksilly

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:39 AM

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dawn pebble and then I ask for the website to be pinned

you can just edit the pinned comment huntercool

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:40 AM

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Yeah, but like... IDK IG before I post the zips anywhere other than here I want to make sure they're quality enough

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because that way it feels more 'official'

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Like "Yeah this is version 1.0 even though the zips say they're like v1.2 but ignore that"

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:41 AM

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haha this doctrine document

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:41 AM

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YEP

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:41 AM

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the 180 as they fangirl over moon

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:41 AM

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that one's my absolute favorite

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that's why Volume 2 is one of my favorites, that one alone

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:43 AM

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and no typos c:

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yeah this one is so fun I love it

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:43 AM

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Did you notice that 10 was missing?

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:43 AM

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I DID NOT

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:43 AM

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That was a genuine mistake on my part at first but then I thought about the implications and thought it was funny so I left it like that

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Actually, I didn't even think of the further implications of 10 specifically being missing until now...

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since 10 is an important number.

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:44 AM

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aw, moon

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:45 AM

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But yeah it's just "haha they just lost track somehow"

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:47 AM

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hmm so scugs and scavs have a kind of joint civilization?

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:47 AM

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Well, these ones do

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they don't get along nearly as well in other regions of the world, but still put up with each-other

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I would've got more into detail on that, but in a combination of me forgetting and the fact that these are mostly about and written by Scugs means there wasn't much room to talk about it.

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:48 AM

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Vol 2 was fun

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I do like how its a little glimpse into a bigger world

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into characters we won't really 'know'

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:49 AM

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Yeah, it's to gear you up for the real story so you know just how much of the world is out there

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:49 AM

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ohhh I see you went with the chemistry option when you were figuring out what to do with your 'bar'

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:50 AM

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yeah lmao

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:50 AM

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I like it

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:50 AM

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I had... no idea how to describe it

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I just had like a very vivid image in my head and then described it best I could

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:51 AM

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echo guard 👀

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:51 AM

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Oh that was another idea somebody else came up with I think

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they were like "What if they had a social caste system based on how enlightened you were so echos are gated off from the public"

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and I was like "that's cool as hell"

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:52 AM

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that IS cool as hell

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seems like the kind of bullshit the ancients would get up to (maybe not with echoes given... you know)

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:52 AM

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They're filling the shoes nicely

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:53 AM

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smasher log made me laugh

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I gotta say this is a lot of fun

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:53 AM

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Mhm!

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That one mostly only even exists just to imply the existence of the fact that there is a job called 'Smasher'

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which is funny

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:54 AM

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his name is Smash

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haven't really noticed any more typos btw

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:55 AM

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That's a good sign

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:57 AM

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I didn't think I was gonna get to all the volumes tonight but I'm having a good time sluglove vol 4 now

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 4:57 AM

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Oh, that's the final one... for now

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Originally Volume 5 was going to be really short and just to hook you in but now I think I want to make it a bit longer now that you've reminded me of some things I forgot to tie up

true mantle May 7, 2024, 4:59 AM

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It was a deep magenta, and the its shine was rivaled only by
the sun itself. <-- little mistake here

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 5:00 AM

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DAMMIT

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one grammar mistake

true mantle May 7, 2024, 5:00 AM

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the pink man haha

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 5:00 AM

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probably because I changed the sentance and forgot to check it for grammar afterwards

true mantle May 7, 2024, 5:01 AM

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happens

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and another misspelling of 'amateur' -- which is, to be fair, a weird ass word

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and 'preparation'... and 'significant' c: and that's all!!

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all done!

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I really liked these

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like I said before it really feels like just a glimpse at a bigger picture

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 5:07 AM

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Yeah, that's what I was going for!

true mantle May 7, 2024, 5:07 AM

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there's a lot of personality here

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and it gives the impression you've got a very fleshed out world you're working with

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 5:07 AM

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Which is pretty darn good, because I think this is my first 'real' worldbuilding project really

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I've been horrible with it over the years and this is my first real attempt to mitigate that

true mantle May 7, 2024, 5:08 AM

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I'm pretty tired so idk if I will attempt to figure out the password atm

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 5:08 AM

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Volume 4's version is the easiest

true mantle May 7, 2024, 5:08 AM

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dawn pebble I've been horrible with it over the years and this is my first real attempt to m...

you're doing awesome and RW is a great sandbox to play in

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 5:08 AM

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oh right you already know that

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yep

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I'm hoping I can learn from Rain World specifically in any future endeavors I might have with more original storytelling because something about it REALLY resonates with me

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Anyways it's late, I'm going to bed, thank you.

true mantle May 7, 2024, 5:10 AM

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thank you! I had fun

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goodnight c:

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(what resonates with you is likely the themes/tone)

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 5:10 AM

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(It's the themes)

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(Actually it's the themes and the overall alienation of it. I've always totally respected things that can make things out of the norm by taking a step back and going "What if it was different?" instead of just being 'weird'.)

true mantle May 7, 2024, 5:16 AM

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Yesss wholeheartedly agree

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Unapologetically alien

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Unapologetically unique

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 12:08 PM

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Trying to "make an argument for both sides" is the most interesting part of making this so far

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I'm having a hard time staying unbiased lol

true mantle May 7, 2024, 12:20 PM

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Ohhh that is so fun though

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If you can really get in the heads of two (or more) characters with differing perspectives… that’s good stuff

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It’a something I’m missing in my thing (for now) as it’s perspective-locked and mostly has pebbles interacting with arti who is communicating with basic sign… they sure do argue though

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I’m curious to see what you’re cookin up :3c

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 8:53 PM

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Getting started on the first part today

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I think I have a pretty fun start

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 10:36 PM

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I think I have the first draft of the first chapter done

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I'll ask for feedback after I'm done spellchecking and re-reading it

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 11:03 PM

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Thoughts?

📎 Book_of_Cascades_1_-_The_Past.txt

dawn pebble May 7, 2024, 11:52 PM

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This was hard to translate into an actual story.

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:11 AM

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Interesting!

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This is written in a kind of unique way, almost like everything we’re reading is survivors thoughts? I’m not sure how to explain, exactly, but there’s very little outward description 🤔 it definitely reads a little like a game transcript, in a way

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:13 AM

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true mantle This is written in a kind of unique way, almost like everything we’re reading is...

Ah yeah, the reason that is would be because of Survivor's nature as a mostly silent protagonist LOL.

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:13 AM

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Like, for example

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Instead of describing them coming upon the shelter

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Monk just says “we’re here!”

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:14 AM

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To be honest, I didn't even think of that

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:14 AM

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It doesn’t quite read like a story in the way that I’m used to

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:14 AM

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that's kind of just an error on my part

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:14 AM

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Ah

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:14 AM

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I thought you were talking about the abundance of "They thought this" or "They did this"

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:15 AM

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Hmm I am in a wayyy

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I wish I could describe it better (and to be clear I’m not saying this is necessarily a fault)

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:15 AM

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That's totally staying but I do need to change the other thing you mentioned

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:16 AM

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But it reads like a string of thoughts rather than a story being directly told 🤔

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:16 AM

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This is what I meant earlier by it probably going to come off as one of those weird videogame adaptations

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:16 AM

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I think it might just take some getting used to!

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:16 AM

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it's kind of impossible otherwise

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:16 AM

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Why is it impossible? :0

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:17 AM

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Just... 'cuz that's how the story is? And a lot of game stories in general.

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There's a reason they're notoriously hard to translate to other mediums

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:18 AM

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They are but that’s usually because you need to translate all the mundane time you spend playing the game (talking to random NPC’s, battling, travel in the world) into a succinct story that might feel like it lacks buildup due to the natural differences between mediums

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:18 AM

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I think it's slightly more than that

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:18 AM

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I mean yes, that’s a simplification

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:19 AM

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which is the same reason I consider the shelter thing an 'error' but the overusage of the weird almost 2nd-person perspective intentional

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That was me failing to convert mundane gameplay elements into a story whereas the other is kind of just a byproduct

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:19 AM

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But it’s the primary reason, along with there being nebulous game concepts that are acceptable when you’re playing a game (suspension of disbelief) compared to being told a story in a different medium

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🤔 as long as you’re doing it by choice

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Like I said it may just take some getting used to as a reader

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:22 AM

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Although actually now that I think about it, I probably did the shelter thing because while the bits of backstory are explained it's assumed that they're walking around or something but that's just how my brain interpreted it on re-reading it

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I'm still changing it though because I doubt that's how everyone will interpret it

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I don't know why I think of it like that

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:24 AM

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That’s kind of the feel of most of it though, feels like it skips description to just inform the reader that something occurred, rather than letting the reader experience it 🤔 I’m really not sure how to explain

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I think reading a little more will help me get the feel of the style though

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There’s certainly no rule you have to write in a particular way, of course, and this does have a unique personality to it

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:26 AM

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Yeah but I didn't really want it to come off like that so I need to learn better when to describe things IG

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maybe it's because I already have a good image of it from... the fact that I'm already making a game from the same story

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or something idk

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:27 AM

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I think it’s a symptom of it being presented as surv’s thoughts (which are a bit disjointed, like a series of reactions)

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:27 AM

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that too

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:27 AM

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I think it’s just because you’re translating the game very directly most likely

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If you did want to try and change it, I would suggest trying to write it either from a third person perspective describing what the characters are doing— or from a first person perspective, and have survivor describe those things (outside of thoughts/dialogue)

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Though I feel like I’m not being super helpful because I don’t know if I’m explaining properly lol

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:31 AM

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Well it was already supposed to be from the third-person perspective, just a very 'omni-present' one that constantly probes Survivor's thoughts instead of giving them a voice, which is why I think this is an easy fix(???)

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I just need to get better at describing things and situations properly

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:35 AM

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Yeah I think descriptions of what is happening is more or less what this is missing

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If you did want it to be presented like a typical story would be

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:37 AM

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IDK if I would even care that much if not for the fact that I specifically chose to write it like this to have it be more like a normal story

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:37 AM

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Like at the beginning it explains what happened BEFORE (surv and monk have been traveling) but then does not describe what they are doing now

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:37 AM

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since that's what the vote concluded on

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:37 AM

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WELL

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A vote is a vote

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But you should absolutely do what YOU want to do and think is best

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:37 AM

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Yea but the vote was right

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:38 AM

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This is your game and story after all :3 I don’t want you to feel pressured into expressing it a certain way

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:18 PM

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In the game, you have the option to try to reason with most enemies and talk things out and possibly get them in your party.
The dialogue for reasoning is kind of funny and really fun to write. I wonder if I should share examples from what little I have.

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There's a bunch of different "personality types" and "personality subtypes" each enemy can have which determines how they talk and what they talk about and how they respond to certain things and the most common (for obvious reasons) one is the "Animal" type.
I tried to write the dialogue for the "Animal" type like you're playing with a really big really scary dog that may or may not want to eat you which I thought was funny.

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~~I hope this is relevant enough to talk about~~

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~~I just desperately want a place to talk about the game lmao~~

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:35 PM

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Oooo

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I like that

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Vaguely reminds me of undertale

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(Positive)

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 1:36 PM

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Undertale was inspired by the same thing I am ~~blatantly stealing~~ using for inspiration

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I have to write all the dialogue out beforehand in this big document that's formatted like this, it's slightly annoying

true mantle May 8, 2024, 1:57 PM

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Mother?

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Heard of it never played

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What engine are you using?

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:01 PM

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true mantle Mother?

Not the Mother series

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...it's SMT again

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I'm SMT obsessed

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anyways

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:01 PM

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true mantle What engine are you using?

I'm using Gamemaker since it's what I know.

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Well actually I could have used Love2D and made my own engine but I preferred Gamemaker because it got the game going faster

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I generally prefer Gamemaker for less serious projects (which is what this was until it ballooned quite a bit) and Love2D for more serious proejects

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:02 PM

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Ah I thought undertale’s primary inspiration was mother

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:03 PM

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It was

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but the Act system specifically in Undertale was inspired by SMT

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:03 PM

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Ohhh

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Learn something new :3c

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:04 PM

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Generally I just think being able to talk to and reason with enemies in RPGs is cool because it's cool to know that every random encounter you get has some kind of story behind it

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like yeah, this random... goblin or whatever was a real person before they showed up on your screen

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:05 PM

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I like that too!

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Not enough RPG’s give you options other than Murder

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:07 PM

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I can't wait to show off the stuff I have planned for battle animations in the game too of all things because it's another cool thing I like talking about

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:08 PM

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How close is the game to being done? :0 seems like a big project

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:08 PM

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Oh it's just beginning but I'm VERY close to being done with all of the annoying coding parts at the start

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which is when the game will really get off the ground

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:08 PM

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Ooo

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:08 PM

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Once all the base systems are done it'l start going by fast I think

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I want to release a demo that includes the first three areas.

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:10 PM

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dawn pebble I can't wait to show off the stuff I have planned for battle animations in the g...

(about this) of all things I was inspired by this one really weird out-of-the-way Jojo's Bizarre Adventure RPG game they apparently made on SNES, which isn't that special except that every single character has unique and pretty cinematic animations for every action they can do

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which I thought was really interesting so I wanted to try something similar

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:11 PM

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:0

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Pretty intrigued by this project ngl. Lmk if you need pixel art (I’ve done a lot of that) I might be able to do a few things

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:12 PM

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It sounds lofty but I think will actually be pretty easy if it's just like a couple generic animations for things like "this is their magic animation" and "this is their attack animation"

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:12 PM

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true mantle Pretty intrigued by this project ngl. Lmk if you need pixel art (I’ve done a lot...

I already got two artists on it, thankfully

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:12 PM

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Nice

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:12 PM

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I was actually planning on doing the whole thing myself (with worse graphics) until people asked to be a part of it

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We're trying to get the art done for all the first area's enemies rn it's going pretty good

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:13 PM

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Offering my services regardless. I love an excuse to animate pixel art- I’d post an example but I don’t wanna put my own work in your thread haha

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No pressure though of course if you like to keep the team small!

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:14 PM

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If something happens or I feel like I'll need to I'll remember to ask, but I'm trying to keep the team as small as possible

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I like it small both because it's easier to manage that way and also because I've seen firsthand how too many cooks in the kitchen can cause a lot of problems for fangames

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:15 PM

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Completely fair

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I wouldn’t be able to do a whole suite of enemy sprites or anything anyway

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:16 PM

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dawn pebble If something happens or I feel like I'll need to I'll remember to ask, but I'm t...

Actually though now I'm kind of considering it because having someone dedicated to touching up the enemy artwork and stuff would be nice but idk

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:16 PM

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Just keep me in mind :3c I like to think my work is Pretty Good

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:16 PM

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but yeah

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I love talking about the process of how we make the art too

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I've always wanted to make a game with real art that's scaled down since that's the process they used for basically every retro RPG

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So basically I have a few color palettes made, and I ask the artists to make the art for an enemy, then the art is scaled down and paletted.

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:18 PM

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It does have a nice retro look

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:18 PM

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Then the art is usually touched up a bit (which is what I was talking about earlier)

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:18 PM

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I tend to prefer the cleaner look of hand drawn sprites though saintsmirk

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:19 PM

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I prefer scaled sprites way more, it's so cool

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:19 PM

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Definitely gives that retro vibe

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:20 PM

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Some of the placeholder sprites before I had artists (and before the artists drew some things) were pretty funny

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and some were actually pretty decent programmer art too

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I liked this one I made for Survivor, it was one of the first sprites I made for the game

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It was re-used as a placeholder for Saint lol

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(Before the current sprite for Saint was made, there was another one where the text was badly edited to say "I swear I'm not Standing")

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:25 PM

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Cute!!

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:26 PM

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There's also a story behind the very first sprite I made for the game called 'Slugmin'

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I made an article about it on the page I made for the game on my website

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The game used to be a typical top-down thing but it felt wrong, which is why the Slugmin sprite existed

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since it was my first attempt at some kind of overworld sprite

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but also since it's the first sprite in the game's data, if there's a sprite related error that's usually the sprite that shows up, which is funny.

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Oh wow why is that so big?

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I forgot I made a big version IG

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:29 PM

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Reminds me of missingno a bit lol

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To be a ‘default’ sprite that shows up when things glitch out

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BEEG

dawn pebble May 8, 2024, 2:30 PM

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Missingno.'s deal is pretty different though

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there's a whole video on how their sprite is actually a glitched (I think?) Magnemite sprite

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it's very interesting

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI50XUeN6QE

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that's beside the point though yea

true mantle May 8, 2024, 2:34 PM

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Oooo

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I love glitch stuff. Fascinating

true mantle May 8, 2024, 3:01 PM

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That was a cool video :0

dawn pebble May 9, 2024, 1:31 AM

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dawn pebble Thoughts?

To be honest I have no idea if I'm going to continue with this or not now because I feel like if anything it's just a shortcut I'm trying to use to get the story in-front of people and what I really should be doing is just focusing on the game so I can get it in-front of people

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So I think that's what I'm going to focus on now

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If I continue making it I'll post updates I guess but I dunno

true mantle May 9, 2024, 2:08 AM

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That’s valid!

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:27 PM

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@old trench Can I get this pinned? It's Volumes 1 to 4. Thanks.

📎 Excerpts_from_the_Cascades_1-4.zip

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:31 PM

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Shit, I’m on mobile right now.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:32 PM

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ah

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sorry then

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:33 PM

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Some unicode doesn’t work.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:33 PM

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The unicode isn't extremely important, but might make it a little weird at times

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:33 PM

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The brunt of the story is legible.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:33 PM

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yeah

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I knew going in that this format would be a little alienating but I wanted to do it anyways because it's really cool

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:34 PM

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Significant.

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With a 'c' and not a 'g'.

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In the zProblem file.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:36 PM

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Oh man, you started with zProblem?

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That's like, the very last one lol

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:36 PM

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No, I've read the rest.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:36 PM

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then again that's why I formatted it like this, I liked the small freedom it gave in what order to read things

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:36 PM

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chilly ferry No, I've read the rest.

what, already?

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Do you mean just the rest of Volume 4 or like all of the volumes before it?

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:37 PM

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Volume 4.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:37 PM

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Either way you are an insanely fast reader...

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which is a good thing though

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:39 PM

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I can read very fast, but much of that is immediately lost.

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Which isn’t the best thing for reviewing.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:41 PM

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That's why I try to be 'professional' about it and keep a list of notes handy

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and if anything seems noteworthy I write it down for later

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:42 PM

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More thorough reading, ‘at least’ doesn’t have to be joined with a hyphen.

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Letter 17 resonates with my personal experience regarding a lot.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:42 PM

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Oh actually most of these spelling/grammar corrections are things banan already gave but I haven't updated since but uh

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I also forgot to write those down

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so now is maybe the time

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:45 PM

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If I were you, ‘whichever’ to ‘whoever’, ‘preperation’ to ‘preparation’, and ‘they had asked’ to simply ‘they asked’.

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In a similar vein, ‘they had thrown’ to ‘they threw’.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:45 PM

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Which document is this?

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:45 PM

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Two Roads.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:46 PM

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Okay, noted

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:48 PM

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“…the very start**.** In an ironic sense**, they are contributing**…”

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:49 PM

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And that's "That Which Lies Below", right?

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:49 PM

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Correct.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:49 PM

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Various grammar and word usage is probably at its most important in volume 4 since it's the "ominous foreshadowing" and also "pretentious scholar stuff" chapter so it's really appreciated

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:50 PM

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I find no immediately noticeable errors in Tales from The Outskirts.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:50 PM

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Do you have any general story feedback?

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Or maybe not since you started with Volume 4

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I think just from Volume 4 there's not much to go off of

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:50 PM

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I’ll review the rest some time soon.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:51 PM

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alright

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now it's time for me to read through the first couple chapters of your thing and I'll see what I can note

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:52 PM

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And then there’s chapter 3.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:52 PM

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most of my notes come down to story things and sometimes small nitpicks to do with continuity

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:52 PM

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The current work-in-progress.

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The full releases are up on AO3.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:52 PM

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Yeah I've read through the very first couple of lines so far and have like 2 notes down

chilly ferry May 27, 2024, 2:53 PM

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I do write directly in AO3, so if the formatting is really strange, forgive that.

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It looks better there.

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 2:53 PM

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No yeah I am reading it from AO3

old trench May 27, 2024, 4:07 PM

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dawn pebble <@339795522527297538> Can I get this pinned? It's Volumes 1 to 4. Thanks.

old trench May 27, 2024, 4:07 PM

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dawn pebble <@339795522527297538> Can I get this pinned? It's Volumes 1 to 4. Thanks.

done peanutbutter

dawn pebble May 27, 2024, 4:08 PM

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Thank you!

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Volume 4 isn't the last volume but it probably will be for a while so might as well keep it pinned until then

true mantle May 29, 2024, 2:51 PM

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dawn pebble Volume 4 isn't the last volume but it probably will be for a while so might as w...

Oo writing more?

dawn pebble May 29, 2024, 2:54 PM

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Well I've already finished Volume 5 (might add more though...) but I'm waiting for a very specific time to release it

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unlike the other Volumes which I basically released in order at whenever time I wanted

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it will be a while though I think

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like a long while

true mantle May 29, 2024, 2:57 PM

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Well, take your time

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How’s game progress?

dawn pebble May 29, 2024, 2:58 PM

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If it wasn't obvious, that's what I meant by a specific time :]

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game progress is good, I finished one of the most annoying parts of the code last night

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I want to release Volume 5 with a demo

true mantle May 29, 2024, 2:59 PM

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Ohh!

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Best of luck! :3

dawn pebble May 29, 2024, 2:59 PM

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Thank ya

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Oh, that was supposed to be a surprise

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oops lol

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I hope nobody else reads this

true mantle May 29, 2024, 3:02 PM

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You can just delete the message lol

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secret message

dawn pebble May 29, 2024, 3:03 PM

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yea but like if you still look through this mostly dead thread you probably deserve to know LOL

short bear May 29, 2024, 3:28 PM

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Best of luck!

dawn pebble May 29, 2024, 5:04 PM

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short bear Best of luck!

Thank you! I hope to be able to show more stuff off soon...

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now that we're close to exiting the "A bunch of annoying code that doesn't give much to show" phase

short bear May 29, 2024, 6:00 PM

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Iterators are not more than moving code either, means codes are exciting:p

ruby nimbus May 29, 2024, 6:29 PM

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dawn pebble Oh, that was supposed to be a surprise

sloggers

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i have to disapoint

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exited to see your planning to do more volumes though lizgreengaming

dawn pebble May 29, 2024, 6:35 PM

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short bear Iterators are not more than moving code either, means codes are exciting:p

Well I mean obviously you can code something cool looking but I mean like this specifically is something I am coding which is not cool looking LOL

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and I'm almost done

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and I can get back to the cool looking stuff

dawn pebble May 29, 2024, 6:36 PM

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ruby nimbus exited to see your planning to do more volumes though<:lizgreengaming:8428222032...

I am considering volumes past 5 but I think only after I finish the game

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and like maybe at most 10 volumes total

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so like 5 pre-release 5 post-release

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especially since I left out some fun stuff like Lizard-Taming and the mafia :]

ruby nimbus May 29, 2024, 6:40 PM

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the mafia???

dawn pebble May 29, 2024, 6:40 PM

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yep

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