#Corroded Destiny
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More! Page 22 now :3
Hehe
Secret power. Logout -> kudos. Don’t tell
Also, speaking of NSH.
Given the timeline I have set up, it is quite certain that Hunter might be already in production. Suns and NSH might have discussed the slag key plan together, but it is obvious that the situation was a rush job helmed by NSH alone.
...
||I might have here a reason why it was a solo job||
So yeah, ||If I want to include the two later they actually serve as a good storytelling device.
To cite my buddy:
'That makes me think of something.
Harassment soloed his project to save Moon. He even left Suns out despite planning it during a chat with them. Only said that he already has things in motion. And while Sig may possibly be the best iterator around at purposing loyal messengers, his sloppiness almost resulted in a critical failure of the mission. What if Hunter succumbed to rot in vicinity of Moon's puppet?
Sky, another biologist, however, recognizes his lack of skill and gathers help from other iterators. There are now 4 iterators working on saving Gales, not counting her.
Which is interesting, considering Harassment is very social, and Sky is not'||
||Sky, Suns and Sig all represent different mantras of helming such a project.
Sig: Confidence and brashness, resulting in a loyal turbocancer patient
Suns: Cautious planning and perfecting, even if perfection is faulty
Sky: Aware of shortcomings. Uses non optimized material and jumps over his shadow to make it work. Has however the advantage of using the mutation grid he perfected resulting in a high malleability of Irradiant unlike Spearmaster.||
scary wall of censored text
Also for those checking in on the thread later. A little boost to the link to the newest chapter 12
https://archiveofourown.org/works/55635643/chapters/143732959
…not getting better. Head still too big
…I really should start using refs. Can’t just wing it with a body type I am unfamiliar with <.<
…looks too cursed
Thinking about skipping a certain thing for chapter 13.
||I stopped chapter 12 with Sky filling in Suns about what happened.
As I want to avoid regurgitating everything I might start the next chapter with suns digesting the situation via introspection after Sky told them everything
Like starting with Suns' personal impression of the situation instead of working towards them understanding it||
I’m gonna lay off of drinking any more condiments for now, because I need to ketchup on the current events.
Also I have an AOOO or AO3 account now yay!
Woo! Welcome to the text side
Yay! Thanks! What does the text side mean? Do you mean the ability to create and post texts, due to me now having an account?
Welcome to the dark side equivalent
Yay! Thanks!
Repurpose cites?
Using established sayings and adjusting them to the situation at hand
Oh! Okay! I occasionally do that as well! The saying “my sweet Summer child”, I usually replace it with “my sweet Winter Hatchling”, because one of my characters is a dragon. Technically uh.. like four of them actually.
Also, one funfact.
Given I already plan to expand the scope a tiny bit with the decision to do occasional perspective shifts and write out of the pov of all 5 main iterators I may have to design a few more OCs to make some perspectives work.
One I definitely have to design is Suns‘ local group’s administrator. Because a Lives pov without any administrators besides Sky would be very boring
||Suns joined the party!||
||Party exceeded 4 members, please select your groups
Group 1: Suns and Sky
Group 2: Whisper and Lives
Reserve: Gales||
@woven cedar Answered your comment. Covered quite a few interesting topics and I got a bit carried away 
||Folder systems? So more like she never had the reasons to call for the memory rather than that she forgot? Hmm||
||She never noticed they have been tinkered with||
||!! Gales!, Quickly! Check the metadata!||
Also, just a question out of curiosity. What did you think of my interpretation regarding why ||Spearmaster is designed as they are? For me their entire design screams ‚I want to combine as many sins in one, so rejecting one means rejecting all ‚||
||It's a refreshing take! I also never thought of the reasons behind the design that way, but that actually makes some sense to think maybe Suns did base the design on the 5 Karmas, especially considering his position in your story||
||It can also explain why Spearmaster was the 7th iteration of the messenger project despite them using existing research from NSH. Suns probably tried at first to create a being that can’t sin. But one who can’t sin, can’t live.||
||spearmaster is optimized for sinning||
||I think I did talk about this a little yesterday in the main chat, but it's wrong to think and label the 5 Karmas as sins in the first place||
||Optimized for sinning but also optimized to abide any sins||
||By that I meant the Ancients||
||Conflict, Yearning, Connection, Caution, and Self-preservation are all the nature of life, it's abhorrent to completely deny them.||
||honestly the 5 karma seem like basic things needed to survive but pushed to the extreme||
Yeah
Also, one thing about the situation.
||Suns can’t undo what they did to Spears. That sin persists and can only be soothed.
Sky actually could undo his sins given his mutation grid reacts on influence and adapts. … Suns will be either upset or relieved. Probably both.||
Rather than pushed to the extreme, id say it was more like the Ancients 'vilify' these concepts
||why upset? Cause it can't be done remotely?||
The more easily to be explained, the broader you can expect your preaching to reach
Wait, what am i saying, that's the same thing as push to the extreme lol
Because Sky does arguably horrible things to irradiant and could dodge out of the resulting consequences by simply changing her diet
Brain did not brain.
||hm okay maybe i misread it idk i understood this as "sky could undo spearmaster"||
||both mistakes were stemmed from ignorance, but Sky has someone to tell him about it before it's too late I guess||
||True. Sky‘s mutation grid does weaken with age. Suns may urges to push him to hurry for Irradiant‘s sake, so he can at least undo the radioactive aura of hers before she will be stuck with it.||
||oh so you can partially undo less severe mutations?||
Well, not quite. ||A full undo is not possible. But he could nudge the aura into a someway less aggressive state||
Radioacidic scug won’t shift colors, that’s for certain.
||like introduce something to disable part or the expression of her genetics code?||
Yep
As long as the cells are still young
After all
I called her Glowcat in the fist iteration of her :p
Nightcat's nemesis
First name of her was simply Glow before I went down the acid route
Which sounds so wrong out of context
Funny number acquired
I like glow as a name honestly I think it’s cute
Some nickname by gales maybe?
<.<
I have an idea how to us that nickname, but you won't like that trail of thoughts
Crazy Soul just wrote the first 900 words of chapter 13
Lil sketch I might refine for chapter 13.
One Decision, Three Consequences
Anything to say, Drymm? :P
❗ This choice will alter the game's outcome
Wait, that might actually be one of my favorite piece of art by you right now, and its only a sketch!?
I dont even know why, but im excited to see it in full
Also cute Suns design

The guilt of a simple decision weighs heavily and reaches far
just one question, the left on is Gales right?
at first i thought it was nsh since the other two are pebbs and moon but then i looked closer and the head symbol is way to round for it to belong to nsh. or am i just stupid
The left is gales. Yet another victim of suns sharing the genome rewrite pearl with pebbles. A downwards cascade. Because moons collapse occupied Lives that much that she now is unavable to use her maintenance drones for gales and only noticed the damage after they had to tell her
yikes, even more guilt for suns
And all that from them being a sliverist and sharing the theories of a peer with pebbles
Indeed
…
Hmm, wonder how the fact that ||Sky is a sliverist|| might play in in the future
Although I am not 100% sure if I wanna keep that early characterization or change it
huhhhhh???
you cant just drop that on a poor person
||not sky, noooooo. my boy!!!||
I talked about that prior to starting the novel.
||Not the death is the solution Erratic Pulse suggestion but much rather the believe that the great problem is solveable, but includes the possibility of great sacrifices||
After all one of his favorite phrases is : I will succeed, I can only succeed.
yeah i like that
||not all sliverists need to look for a way to die directly||
i just think its funny that now my favorite oc and favorite og are both ||sliverists||
…I need a pseudonym
He has no fantasy, so that could actually be plausible:p
Bahahah
that would be so dumb
In the end he just calls himself
Another Pseudonym/Second Name etc
Insertion Name
or even worse, he just steals some poor souls name
yes please!!!
Help, brain not braining.
Yes?
I thought I was in the main channel, my bad.
Another Iterator 
Perfect. AI
OH GOD
Soo, wrote another 600 words and am now at 1400 for chapter 13. taking my Bluetooth keyboard with me in the train was a good idea
Soulwing rn: 
Not anymore, left the train :p
But yeah, as far as things go. Chapter 13 will likely close the ||first Suns focus and allow for a small time leap afterwards in the scug agenda. ||Who will take the lead after that is still up for debate, will however probably be ||Gales and Breaker||
||The scug training will be continued in the second section side foci||
Artwork for chapter 13 finished.
||Guilt is a paralyzing state, renders you unable to move on. Too much of it and you might never recover.
But what if there is a light to lessen the burden, to repent?||
All these chapter drawings are making me so hype for my own, like holy shit...... I can do that too 
The lighting here is to die for
Hey, don't undersell yourself. You are so much better than me
Uno reverse card
makes me wanna draw for mine but then I remember I'm lazy as heck
Don't make me force you, banan. :3
ehhh its not just laziness. I would love to do the kind of full bg art you do but idek where to begin
I should probably take, like, an art class or... something at some point
Never took one myself
Me as well. CD caused me to try to innovate
Also, banan. Wanna know why I write so fast? The main reason?
I crave more comments 
ME TOO but I'm just struggling with these latest chaptersss
but.. attention... banan loves attention...
I'm glad to see you're getting more comments though!!
Well, only on the day I am uploading a new chapter tho :p
You see my issue? 
I crave comments and number. number must go up
Want number go up? must post more chapter.
Chapter, however, does not want to written
at least we have nice consistent CD uploads :3 at least for now!!
gonna miss em when you gotta take a break for uni
Mhm. Now banan, go and write! I know you can do it. Your pebbles is immaculate
I know i won't be able to fully resist. <.<
Maybe write 300-500 words as a reward after a day of learning
it's so hard when you're in the writing groove not to let it distract you from responsibilities...
I know ;.;
eats picture and runs away
YO SHARE
no
Children, behave. There are after all seven red sins
Dungeon!! A thousand years dungeon!!
Glutton and Envy
going Karma 4 all the way
Other thing. A question 
As of currently, which iterator of the story (including suns) is your favorite and of who do you want to see more?
sky fave, suns and lives wanna see more
but i can feel the whisper withdraw, havent seen my girl in a while
so actually i only wanna see more of suns and lives since they are still the newest, but overall probably whisper
Hm yes i would like to see more of gales
/j
sky
I love socially inept dorks
Mhm, mhm. Got it.
Ok…
- Push the creation of Suns‘ adminstrator up to be able to explore lives more.
- oh Whisper, my hypegirl … if I only knew how to best capitalize on you in a focus…
administrator stuff is always great
i love all the different interpretation for ancient lore, probably even more than the iterator concept in general
True. Well, there are plenty of ancient hot takes coming up as gales proceeds. :3
gonna eat that all up
Tsk tsk.
agree with this where whisper??
she's the only one I've drawed where is she
She was around only a few chapters ago. ||Sky sent her off after teasing him to work on the neuron.||
Chapter 11 even, very recently
it's been so long...
ok im about to go on a little mini rant regarding whisper.
It just feels so long since weve gotten anything from her since shes been there from the beginning, she was the second major character we got so now that shes stepping back for a second so others can be introduced its really noticeable.
Gales obviously doesnt have that problem being the main character and all and Sky is getting his development not only when he is the pov but from everyone else since everyone seems to be interacting with him, even the scug (believe me im living for all the syk content, espeacially if you really plan to make him a ||sliverist||).
Then there is Lives, im also starving for any content that regards her, but i dont think thats really fair since she just joined the story.
Suns doesnt need to much development to make us understand how they work so developing them early on is easy and you can just skip to all the story stuff already. Like you can simple say sth about Suns feeling guilty and we all just know why, no exposission needed and that is always good.
And im realizing right now that i wanted to talk about Whisper and i kinda lost focus, whoops
but it kinda helpst to explain a point i have with her.
Right now she definetly has the most, i wouldnt call it boring, but more simple story line. All the other characters have all this set up where you can only be excited on how it will pan out, but since Whisper is already like Gales best friend Gales doesnt describe her in all these interesting ways like she does with the rest (also means no real conflict between them/ also am i like the only one that wants to see the two kiss
just me??? pls no. i need some whisper gales shippers here
)
But back to the point. Gales obviously has like the entire plot to explore her. Sky has his 'be better at emotions' and eventually the ||sliverist ||thing (but i dont really count that yet since you still decide if you actually want to use that or not)
word count end
have to send the first part already
ok continure
and lives has her relationship with gales and the local group drama on the side.
suns also has a lot of plot since they are a cannon iterator so they just get all the downpour lore plus additinal stuff
But whisper? She had her little moments at the beginning, but her biggest moment definetly was the one with Breaker. I kinda wish we got to see more from her perspective at that moment since it might have been some huge angst potential (and i live for angst) but i digress.
She seems to maybe have some anger issues? If thats intended than that might be an iteresting path for her to go. Also since Gales will probably interact more with scavs we might see Whispers return to a more prominant role there
Tbh i dont even think its that bad? Like you obviously still set up your characters and whisper already got her time to shine. Shes just stuck with the least things to do (unless its working in the story, like why is she working on everything while others can just focus on one thing, my girl is being overworked
) but from all your shared plans so far this story isnt ending anytime soon. might even still count as a prolouge at this point, so there are still so many things that could still happen
I guess her missing just sticks more out since shes been there from the start
(whisper/gales shipper raises hand)
YESSSSSS
my lil lesbian heart craves the ship
(lol that just were 600 words, if only i could write like that when im writign my story
)
the FEELS demand WORDS
I agree with the fact that Whisper does have her issues in keeping her interesting from that point on. I pushed her into the support role because her skills are less required than in my initial plans on how to get Gales moving. She will have in future Sky and Lives foci more chances to be the token emotional supporter and glue that keeps the group together.
The issue with the scavenger storyline is that Whisper is essentially cut off from Gales now, with the only active communication being Suns' chat 1.0 device.
Lives has maybe a solution to establish some connection with Gales, but Whisper?
...
Not.
...
I am honestly a bit stumped on how to keep her interesting, not to mention integrate her in the current major plot-lines. Maybe that will change once I get to the first Lives' focus, given they are after all a tag-team. But till then? .... IDFK!?
(also soul you won't see a passionate rant like this about something a person isn't passionate about. I count this rant as a massive win)
Mhm
hmmm
as long as you dont completly sideline her i dont think you should try to force her in. if you have plans for her later that use her later
I have plans, many plans. But most of them only come to fruition after Gales has left custody
make her the primary receiver of sky's scug rants I suppose... but I guess suns is there for that now
poor whisper is really out of the loop isnt she :C
then keep it like that. your story right now is great and while i do miss my girl im mostly not to bothered by her absence. the stuff thats happening right now works just like it is
definitely one of the more challenging things about having a large cast is keeping everyone relevant
sometimes characters just need to go on the backburner for a while
as long as their not completly side lined theres nth wrong with that
Even more difficult when dealing with iterators who are very stuck in their cans
Hmm ... out of the loop you say. Well, that does give me ideas for a small expressive focus on her frustrations with that. Her being not necessarily necessary to save her best friend, unable to check in on her due to her being out of overseer distance and not in Suns' reach and general frustrations with the situation and the fear of scavengers coming for her besides breaker.
Hm yes the whole point of CD is to get gales over to whisper 
right??
so they can kiss /j
is this not the goal??
whistles
why even be off the string if you're not even gonna kiss your not girlfriend
I'm just sayin, it's pride month
im gonna be 100% honest, i forgot that
She seems kinda ADHD so uh, tough spot, eh?
but seems like we get whisper back as a major character at some point
"It's pride month, Whisper, you know what that means"
"Huh, do you want me to, like, make gay chemicals"
now if only i could draw...
time to learn
give the people what they want
Ga - Y
Beautiful Gallium-Yittrium
im not learing, but im gonna draw some cursed stuff anyways
Same 
4 years of art classes, where all i could draw was backgrounds, only for me to now sit on a pc and sribble with a stupid mouse
I drew with mouse for years and years
Tbh i did not enjoy art classes at school
don't let your dreams be dreams
they sucked
the reason i stopped drawing
but im trying to get back into it
Art class was fun
I hated art class cause I didn't want to draw fruit or mountains I wanted to draw goth cats
I mean i get the fun of drawing and stuff and i kinda wanna do it (besides the sucking at art part) but the stuff in art classes is just not it and sometimes was not what i wanted to do or not interesting
Got to design our dining room with my favorite subject: me :p
Like I really did not enjoy painting that much
peak
face reveal
Well, 2015 me reveal :p
Although my face still hasn't changed much
I've been wondering this ever since you showed me but are those art class props or were you Genuinely wearing those
this is clearly everyday dress.
Idk if I'm being american but they feel proplike aaaa 😂
The 19-20th century PI drip
confused in american
should have put in some sandals with socks, would be in the next art gallary for sure then
Time for me to make my departure 
I showed you the costume I wore when I was playing the dictator in theater. That's the only time I pull off the sock/sandals combination
true
socks/crocs is the way to go
Heathen
True dictator garb
don't knock it till you croc it
Only with crocs will the opposition know you're serious
huhhh???
where did the fill bucket on paint go???
i dont wanna fill all the stuff in by myself

ms paint?
my ms paint has the fill bucket...

Anyway. Back on track. We derived a bit.
Whisper. Whisper oh Whispy.
I have such a fun thing planned for you. A thing I can't even talk about here because it is such a huge spoiler. Where you can use your knowledge of Void-chemistry to do fun stuff.
But even that requires Gales to hurry the frick up and leave her can. Gales, you hold your non-girlfriend behind 
da vinci who?
now guess on which one i didnt even try to shade
also, omg, definetly absolutly real spoiler for chapter 57 where gales visits whisper and then they kiss
Now kith
Awwwww, you have my huge respect for creating something actually decent with MS paint 
decent might be a bit much
Who says you can’t draw this is cute
It is decent
And with a MOUSE
Just look at gales. Tinker a bit more with that representation and we have a working in-game sprite
Also soul we need a lineup of the iterators (mostly so we can see how small gales is)
Have a few decent views, both with and without cloak
The last one? Very long ago when I figured out what to do with the inverse legs/arms
Like the third image of her I drew
got to give some 'good' (its the effort that counts, at least the one on gales, sry whisper) art back when i get to consume all the awesom stuff you put out
thats not even a joke with the effort. 40 minutes on gales and then like 10 on whisper
but i always hated drawing anatomy and gales has the cloak so in that case it makes sense
to be fair i could have done better
mouse fricking sucks
Mouse DOES suck
Draw pebbsi and overseer now for beyond the shell
lol
gimmi a sec
i did some doodles
wait how do i get them on pc???
ehhh
whatsapp web it is
My new profile pic is golden. YOU! DEW IT!
i drew that one in like 5 minutes after i was done with the plot since i was bored
dont look at arti, she looks cursed, i just cant draw scugs,
BUT
i also really cant draw detailed iterators either
Hey!
there is only one thing in rain world that i can draw
KABOOM
so much more fun to draw
The ceo of cursed scugs approves your attempt
i will take this aproval with great honer
and another little cursed one on my school paper
idk why, i just really like the rot
design wise, story wise, everything wise
Rot is fun
its soooo cool
i really need to get back into drawing
helps that i dont have a certain teacher breathing down my neck
any art programs to recomend?
I have a few. Funds?
one time payment
That rules out CSP even if it is technically one time (per version x.0)
I have a special love with a very obscure art program I used for a year. Can be bought for an apple and an egg
Paintstorm studio
Has a beautiful brush feeling
will remember that!
first tho i need a way to draw with a pen
my friend still wants to bring over a thing for that
still have to test it
Huh, Paintstorm is now not the cheap service anymore I remember it to be.
Got my licence for 10 bucks.
Now it is at 50 bucks
I use csp and I like it a lot. I used to use sai
I wish I knew some free ones that were actually good…
…yarr…
I yarr’d my sai back in the day
paint /j
whoops my reply didnt work
I know some people who can make some good stuff on paint- but they all have like brain parasites or something
Sheesh, Paintstorm got some really cool features in the past two years
yeah i saw some, those people are insane! how do they do that!!!
I do pixel art in paint
Like I said, brain worms
That was like my primary thing many years ago. Did lots and lots of pixel art
Welcome, cy
Glad to hear that :3
Also, nice pfp
Anything/anybody in particular?
I did laugh when I saw that image in the fic
Hehe.
Uhhh I really like the weird green scug and the big scavenger
That’s because it’s good 
I hope they team up at some point
That is a possibility for certain. Team up, i don't know yet, but that they might encounter each other, that I know
Or they fight
drama
||Breaker bringing the spoils of a fight with Irradiant to Gales, proudly presenting the content on his spear. Gales get reminded why whisper and co hate scavengers.||

You wanted them to fight, live with the consequences 
Bu-but the Slugcat always wins, right?
Sure, let's go with that.
Obviously they’re going to do that thing that superheroes do whenever they meet each other for the first time, where they get into just enough of a fight to show that they’re both really cool and fairly evenly matched, before they realize that they’re actually on the same team and they band together
Good fight, shake on it.
Radiation cancer spreading scug touches scavenger
My wit is dying fast. Have to wake up in less than 5 hours.
I will call it a night. Will return soon.(in 6 Hours)



This is adorable.
Small writing session before university concluded. Am now at 2100 words and mostly finished up the first section. Have also a nice idea for the second session that should please a certain Amany here 
||sliverist or whisper! sliverist or whisper! sliverist or whisper!!!||
(or sth else)
Wont say
damn it. your getting over your tendencies to spoil.
dramatically leaves
I will get you next time
You won’t have to wait long. I think I can release the chapter by the end of the day
im never not going to be suprised by how quick you always write
Sit down, pour down 500-1000 words.
Secret tec: use the crainium to write the script in your head before you sit down
A little pre writing meditation helps enormously
Excuse me, you finished another chapter already?? 
Not yet
Now that was a rush of speed! Wrote on the way back a good 1000 words in 40 min. The second section of the chapter just WORKS. Mhmm, I like it already, only a tiny bit more.
3100 words now
Chapter 13 is live. We are about to up the pace 
https://archiveofourown.org/works/55635643/chapters/143909665
you still could
well of course
but now i have a chapter to read
ive already delayed writing for 5 hours now, whats a bit more
Heh
i do have to say, the writing style for the ||whisper ||section just felt really nice to read.
scratched the brain (lol) in all the right places
The words just poured out
As I said, I made the entire second section in one go on the way back from university
if you get to the point were you dont stop then your usually going to get great stuff out of it
sadly i have problems staying focused so i never really get into it
I have the best time when writing in a way that doesn't allow for distractions ... which means not at my pc :p
Also, this is all your fault. I originally planned a different ending for the mini arc. ||The chemist (not biologist, tsk) returned for a little update on her doing. They might have undervalued her role when proposing her to the role as junior assistant. Girl knows her neurochemistry.||
never was great at either chemie or biology, whoops
but great chapter as always
im trying to stop getting myelf distracted. I still have so much to write
Then go and write. Or I will kick you out of this thread 
Not that I can in the first place 
ok question, should i finish the scripts for chater 7 and 8 or write chapter 6?
i need goals to reach, they motivate me
Write 6, I wanna read!
got it
how much?
i will have to go to bed early today since i have an early shift tomorrow tho
As much as you are able to :3
Hehe
"If I am getting it right (I think idk), I am currently the only one..."
Pursue
Don't need that comma after pearl
New ones from scratch?
"To raise spearmaster to be the inpressive friend they were (are?) for suns"?
"Piece of data, which had helped them..."
I think you could also merge the sentence with the data and the next one to make it flow better but then that would make a huge sentence which would be an issue?
On the global forum?
Comma after them maybe?
Not sure about the "do notice"
"Being way more of a danger to the enviroment hereslf"?
"Currently experimenting with some more..." is what you meant i assume?
Yeah, that chapter needs a bit more work. Got also content wise feedback from my bud.
Seems like I was a bit too rash
"And as far as Suns was concerned that radiating aura would render her future life to be quite a lonely one."
"Read their concerns"?
"Let me lay out an opportunity for your concerns, instead."? I mean i think I get what this sentence conveys but not sure
"Abilities is possible"
"That path of undoing mistakes closes down when the subject gets too old, however"
"We could finish the delivery"
You can throw out the "do" in the last sentence i think? Also comma after cycles i believe
Criticize?
Move now to either the end of its sentence or to after "I"
Already either after "sky" or "groundwork"
Hmm where have i heard of this creature before 
Wonder where 
"Which would only rarely find use"
Excellent chapter. I love that we’re getting so much suns and spearmaster involvement, and I can’t wait to see SM and irradiant interactions…
Let’s see if banan can get a chapter out before you get out another one 

Also you made good use of whisper here, ||designing the neuron fly|| was that already planned?
||smooth neuron fly brain|| 
I brattily copied your two half-chapters method of telling stories. It is a blessing to write without losing drive. Because if you do, you just let the secondary story take over something to give you new drive to the main section
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that I immediately started struggling as soon as winter’s pov was axed
It really is so nice to just. Cut
Yes, it was, but Amany forced my hand. I originally planned it after the first time acceleration but Amany was right that Whisper needed some setup first before the pacing speeds up. Give the girl what to do
Good choice
Oh, so there will be a jumpcut to the future?
Nope
It is just that the first 13 chapters went down in 10 cycles.
I will introduce now bigger gaps now that it got set up to give the scug time to grow up
Ah
So yeah, every mini arc will now do a jump of let's say 100-200 cycles while the secondary stories fill in the gaps
I think you should return to that as soon as you have finished the chapters you want together
I may or may not. We’ll see how things pan out
I mean I did abandon it also in the meeting chapters because it fitted
But most importantly, ask yourself. which way is better for you to write?
Can't keep it on a cliffhanger forever
Torturer. 
:3c
Is that a challenge
No it's a threat /j
Just tuned in. HFisH took the bet to focus on pebbles until it caught up with the literal cliffhanger.
Winter is coming
Heheh, yep banan.
Gales is now in the situation she hates the most, which she exclaimed earlier quite loudly.
||Why did she played it down in the first place? Yes, so that others won't take pity I her and give her the bad kind of attention. Now all get to do stuff to help her making her all anxious. Even Lives||
"Gonna not report on my issues, will tell you guys how it goes"
...
"Hopital"
||Gales being a little lives fangirl brings me joy I ship that too||
||Wait how do you ship her with 2 characters at once||
I’m flexible 
Let me explain. You see, I am gay
No no, I ship them both, but not together
Wait aren't you she/her?
Gay isn’t gender specific
Gay is an universal term
I’m a gay lesbian 
Oh I thought it was gay for male and lesbian for female
Gotcha
Needs .. more .. Lives + Whisper .. interactions So
Hm this is going in an interesting direction
Stop I can only be so gay
In general. Lives is after all whisper's senior
To be clear.
They are a 'local group'
So whisper is in lives' local local group, aka not one of the 5 she was assigned to oversee but her actual local group?
Means Sky and Gales are neighbours (island + shore)
And Whisper and Lives are neighbours (both in a mountainous region)
They are somewhat close together, but far away enough to technically be not local groups, but two groups of two who joined up.
They’re a bit odd though yeah? Because they’re separated by greater distance than typical group
Oh yeah
Bruh you’re gonna make gales climb a mountain aren’t you 
||That pic with the three silhouettes behind Suns goes so hard...||
RIGHT this is best art he’s done so far it’s so good
||"we are going to beat you to death"||
Hence why Suns ||mentioned that Lives using her maintenance drones to control Moon's collapse was such a big deal. She needs time to restock and Gales is further away than any other Iterator, plus on an island.||
||All the lives I ruined||
I'm kinda spoiled on the first half so not much to say
but this is also establishing how Sky is very proficient with biology/genetics...
||A random thought but what if he had info in that golden pearl... What kind of things he could accomplish with that... Maybe nothing at all, but maybe ....||
A rule of thumb in the house Soulwing. The most recent is usually the best :p
i said the same thing
also whoops, got distracted, back to work
I have a fun one I want to do next
Featuring Gales and Suns :3
Oh wait
There we go
I hope suns keeps reaching out to her… she’s all alone
||If whisper actually manages to make a relatively portable fly(not even have to be moving by itself, just small enough) that is both a storage AND a processor, she will actually solve the problem of worms on strings...||
||Maybe Breaker the scavenger will pay her a visit soon...||
I think gales was uniquely designed to be able to be detached though
That's the topic I want to cover in that picture. ||A split art picture with both holding the broadcast orb, one half glowing blue, the other half glowing orange, of them chatting with each other.||
I just commented this!! I hope so
Precisely
Her solution is graspable. The others...ehhh
With time, and the dissolution of taboo, maybe
Maybe. But an universal worms of the strings scenario would kinda make the endgame of this story pointless.
Is the endgame what we talked about before?
||Hmm true... Also no matter how compact it is, the fly probably can't ever measure up to the full memory array+processing strata I guess.||
||theres no replacement for a can. v_v||
Kinda. The endgame is still very malleable as I have only planned a few things past the mobilisation of gales.
Especially as I still haven't played saint
I’m down for another brainstorm sesh if you are >:3
What do you do during them?
saint doesn't add all that much to the lore tho
Suggest/discuss random ideas and ask questions
I mean you saw the capabilities of the current iteration of the neuron brain. 100 Zetabytes. Way stronger than a human brain (1 petabyte estimate today)
But she will lose the ability to have access to laboratories, assemblies and a static broadcast system. Also no holographic screens
No screens?? How will she play minesweeper?? Girl gonna lose her mind
Imagine Whisper with no holoscreens to demolish: 
Iterators are the ultimate iPad babies
Oh god. And that was already proposed in ...when did rain world released?
2017 ... yeah, that was before the iPad babies revolution
It was not. I’d say around 2010 onwards
I had my first I pad in 2015. and the first ones were soooo slow
I can basically see the individual pixels on my old iPad.
I mean who needs an attention span when you can attend to a thousand projects at once with your computer brain
Iterators have ADHD, but it works out for them.
Because they can actually process all the thoughts barraging at them.
Do they even have minesweeper?
Well, this is why canon-divergence exists, people.
Iterators process so fast that a game of pong must be going at lightspeed lmao
That fic likes to use underclocking to create meaningful situations
Moon on that dominoes game between her and Pebbles be like: come on, pebb, I calculated all the ways this can go already
Pebbs, be a bit less b4okem, will you?
||WHISPERRRR||
||Providing a touch of emotion and personality to the impassive work of Sky, keeping her friend's needs and wishes at the forefront, mmmMMM||
Probably not the best idea to mention it, despite the fact that I adore the work myself.
||Kiss when
||
Better safe than sorry then
||Never thought Spear would be the kind to enjoy interacting with slugpups, but I likey||
Just know - I love it too.
||Spear is to Suns as much of a therapy scug as Suns is to Spear a therapy itty. They both soften up in retirement ||
Of course. Can't trust Sky with passionate work after all. He is a genius, but a ground work genius
This is the goal of the fic, duh /j
We have no mouths but we must kiss
Ah, this is my tactic haha
It’s pride month. You know what that means
Very popular
inb4 some of us change the fic category from Gen to something else
Reserved for the spin offs in 4 years 
What
You want me to make, like, gay neuron flies or something
Give the queers what they want!!
(Also this is your story don’t let my dumb ass influence you to include ships unless you want to haha)
Oh, your dumb ass' ships are quite coherent with mine :p

Although Approaching Whisper has also a fun dynamic :p
This is true, but if sky gets between our girls I will knife him in an alley
Jokes on you. His sorry ass is bolted to his room. Will never be in any alley.
You got empty threads, old woman!
I refuse to explain my means.
(Sky)
Fair
Ship is too strong for us mortals to comprehend, will immolate us with its presence just like seven approaching suns
Maybe Spear and Irradiant will be wingscugs 
suns x ||self-forgiveness||
The ultimate ship
Read the new chapter
Spearmaster is gonna become Dadmaster
The Daddest of them all
A little quick sketch
wait, omg, thats so cute
20 min
Creating something very charming:3
like you even shaded the light of the 1.0
thats some dedication for a quick sketch
eeeehhh
well
maybe dont look into the HFiSM thread for a while
Hey, I criticize according to the current skill ceiling of the artist
Mine is quite sloppy
i swear im better than that
its just the mouse
and the fact that i cant draw anything that is alive
im only good at landscapes and shading
Do I have to pull up my cursed scugs again?
That was from banan
nevermind than
My 2 options are mouse (shit precision) or the pen that comes with my phone (can barely stabilize my arm)
Both have their use cases
what uses does the mouse have?
i genuinely cant see any pros to it
I hate drawing with mouse so much
Actual stability compared to my 2nd option (phone pen)
Fun fact try pressing the arrow keys in MSpaint
well yeah, phone pen, but now imagine an actual drawing pen
But money
well dont mind if i do
Whistles Boy do I have a deal for you
Like I mean a pen that comes integrated with the phone, not just a phone pen
Also what point in buying if I will get barely any use out of it I imagine
lmao, never knew that was possible
I still have my old drawing screen I want to sell
but kinda useless unless you want to draw for ages
Soul right now:
mission failed, we'll get em next time
Well idk i mean ignoring the obvious (striking a deal in discord, surely this is a great idea), I don't know what use it will have since like. Yeah I draw. Poorly. Once in a blue moon.
My sales pitch can use some work
Jumping on the opportunity
But yeah, I have here a Huion GT-220 sitting around I just can't get sold
Yeah i mean while it does sound nice idk if i will have much use out of it
Also that retail price holy fuck 
Yep, bought it for 550 € 7 years ago
Trying to sell it now for 175€ because I decided to upgrade my screen
Yeah that's like way more than i would imagine spending on something for entry-level stuff, sorry
Fair. :3
Although there is one cool thing about these drawing screens
I know someone who makes banger art on their phone by drawing with their finger
I use mine as primary screen :p
Still can’t believe it
I know several
i know none
People who are way better than me and that with a finger and a dream
I mean main issue is stability i think
I use an apple pen and my iPad
Also my hand is shaky
I used to use a fancy tablet on pc but idk using the iPad makes it easier for me to just pick up and draw wherever
Hm i reckon i do have an old tablet i could refurbish but my pen is not compatible with it i believe
Huh that's cool
I rest my hand on the iPad screen when I draw for stability
Yeah but then you would need some gloves or sth
Or on the side of it
Nah it works fine
I also have a paper texture screen protector that makes it feel nicer to draw on
Idk i'd have to mess with stuff
But that's overlooking the main issue:
I am DOGSHIT at art
I literally rest the side of my hand on the screen as I draw with no issues or special settings
Does that not mess with the inputs?
Anyways afk
You wouldn't believe how often I heard that before. And some who said that to me are now better artists than I am.
Doesn’t seem to tbh I’ve always done it
True! Boy, lemme show you something
My very first attempt at a human character, back in ... 2019? Yes, 2019
The art is arguably bad.
Although it still holds some Charme
how did he drink from that glass that his face ended up like that
Canonically messy vampire with no regard for decency. One of my first OCs. Nebris
Anyway, that is off topic
@sterile briar
I watch it twice daily
but thats a whole ass animatic. i cant do that
In the end only 9 images
ok so another thing for the check list
That's above the normal intake, you should get that ckecked out /j
repaint my two paint thingies and make a nine frame animatic with that sound the second i get a good art programm
The second time someone animated something for me
https://youtu.be/2ZXKk6WTwss?si=B-MHTsP-lC-MISAB
Still hold it so dearly. Thank you, @thin frost <3
Mmm yes puts note on calendar
Whoa this is very well made
IKR?
Colors added
Neato
letter buddies
Work on chapter 14 of my fic is going swimmingly. The first 850 words are done :3
I’m gonna be taking a break for a while, I’m going through some stuff right now. I hope you all understand.
Hope you’re okay. Take care of yourself, don’t worry about the people here.
For the first part, I am not. For the second part, thank you.
Wishing you the best.
.. thanks..
Good luck, omega. I wish you strength and courage
.. thanks..
Wrote a bit more. A nice session of 1000 words, digging deep in a personal headcannon of mine.
With a bit luck will I be able to release chapter 14 today or tomorrow.
The roll continues
Slow roll
Yawn
Well, I am nearly done with chapter 14, Another nice session of 920 words finished, chapter nearly done. (currently 2850) Tomorrow I will finish and edit it and also finish the corresponding image.
Disclaimer: Progress after chapter 14 will be way slower. I will only work on it when I actually have used the better half of the day for exam preperations. Will however return to it at the 19.07., after the last exam of mine. So don't expect a new chapter all 3 days for the next month. Maybe one per week till the 1st, then none at all till the 19th.
That’s all good! You’ve gotten your readers hooked, right, so now you can let it rest for a while, to build up demand

We will see about that. I try to be cautiously optimistic about it, but I do suffer from certain fears. One of them being the fear of being forgotten. Was actually my driving force in me becoming such a decent artist. I always worked on getting better, never stagnate in my skills to not become irrelevant. It is now better, but still somewhat present
Hey, seriously though, don’t sweat it. People wait for months on a fanfic update. A couple weeks isn’t going to make everyone forget.
Similarly, but also the fear of being a disappointment especially when leaving people wait for a while...
That's completely logical, but fears often aren't logical unfortunately 
It took me years to realize that my DM friends are still my friends when I not send every other day a new picture reminding them of my existence. I'm just in the lovely position of being an introvert and friends to many other introverts, forced to step into the boots of an extrovert to hang out with them.
Mood lmao
Sometimes I get called out in my irl friend group chat that I'm an extrovert spy or something like that 
Chapter 14 is done and edited. Only the image is still missing

Halfway done.
Love it always to show how it looks shaded and unshaded
Oh, seeing in-progress images to compare like this really makes the shading more distinct
Also literal halfway 
Fullway
okay that's a big leap in progress, i think
How to achieve this speed...
Are you living in a different timeframe than us mortals 
Soulwing secretly an iterator 
I am ignoring my duties to learn for my exams. I do not recommend
Not so implausible at this point 
Chapter 14 of Corroded Destiny. The first significant time leap in the entire novel. Not the last either.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/55635643/chapters/144177298
||(Points at Whisper and Gales)
||
||Suns avoiding Lives because they feel responsible waaa||
||Fucked up secret shrine let's GO Suns, your religious ass is in for a wild ride||
||NEW FRIEND LIZARD
||
ah, the surprise revelation....
I never can interpret the ....
is that an expression of being disappointed or what?
||Well, at least the first hint||
Now I have to learn how to draw lizors as well >.>
Ask banan, you remember the wonderful scug advice she gave 
oh usually I used that to indicate a trailing off
I meant to use that as 'that makes me think rather a lot'
||or sometimes it does indicate my disappointment at myself tho||
Pff. Well, I had to drop the first hints eventually:3
Another fruit tip, here I go
Mmm yes will read later
Well, first you draw a banana

And then the rest of the slugcat?
the answer to all your problem
That made me chuckle more than it should :3
Whoa okay.
"Suns did hear from Far Whisper as well."
"Sky mentioned"
I shall wait till you are through it :3
Much appreciated as usual
I assume "it is"? Unless intentional idk
Wait actually hm i wonder if this would go faster on PC
aye
"Suns knew next to nothing from Five Lives Unbound, however."
"Of course her idol did so much work"
also, maybe "their meeting" instead?
wasn't it "precipiece"? (nevermind it's correct) also shouldn't the "the" have a large T since it is a custom name of sorts?
your generation was
is a shrine
a tenth
not sure here. "if my section is as big as all yours combined"?
Typo
"purpose, that smaller shrine was..."
||sinning shrine yooo||
||wait shit is the gales bodydouble theory actually very plausible||
huh
maybe replace the 2nd sentence with something like "this one is so tiny!" or "the one it comes with is so tiny!" to avoid repetition?
comma after also
got two places?
maybe remove the 1st do?
i'd honestly throw out the "to connive a way"
||
||
||red. 'course it's red||
||evil shifting gales||
||pink would have been a bit too much on the nose. :3||
i assume you meant well earned respect
not sure what's going on in the "word of" sentence
Prior to writing stories were shared via the word of mouth
"words of it made their way even to the remote island Breaker was born on"?
Words, carried from mouth to mouth, eventually made it to the remote island
||Keep that evil in brackets. We don't know anything yet.
Also ... maybe sooner than you think. :3
...
That is IF that theory is correct of course :p||
||but red means evil amirite???||
||shifting galesn't||
||or maybe it's less body double and more the ancients flicked a switch and she just kinda switched modes idk||
||Red has many meanings. Mainly 'forbidden' :3
Codename: Shifted Gales 
Probably? But why did the ancients then regularily disconnected her puppet from the superstructure?||
||or did they||
||Maybe it is all a dream||
||the real sins were the friends we made along the way
||
||"Gales! This is Sky. I received a garbled signal from you and wanted to check how your self-maintenance was going. What? You had a dream you were melting away from acid? And you were isolated from the rest of us? Don't worry. Nothing has changed about our local group. Whisper is exceptionally excited to see you, she has made a new breakthrough. Also won't stop taking about--her words-- how cute your digital face is when you smile. It is driving me insane."||
||"Hey, you. You're finally awa-"||
Honestly...
If I wouldn't have already made the conscious decision of a very real story this could be such an interesting take. Dreams of the void, the calling of the end, summoning those removed from the cycle.
Thus, AU indulgence 😌
You can be the writer of the AU to the AU, Drymm 
It shall remain a dream, as void intended 
AU^2
I love thinking
bro is
Hehe
Anyway. I am so happy you enjoy my silly story 
Which is actually now the 35th longest rainworld story on AO3.
That is a number
Catching up to you, number 26, HFisH
clearly both of you should not race to tho has more words by writing faster
and then everybody wins
With the exception that banan is like 6 times more successful in terms of kudos.
Well deserved in my opinion
banan has canon-character-focused-story privilege 
fair
Oh my god disgruntled Winter pfp jumpscare lmao
Corroded Destiny gang, come get y'alls ART
The mini local group as one. Lives and her protégé Whisper.
They both has an abnormal love for tinkering with holoscreens to make their work more graspable:p
They are also busy as hell with their work, well reflected in their pieces 
Compared to the other two, yep 
Made some progress on the group call picture
I retroactively changed all dates to 1694.5XX. Me being able to read the dated broadcast in spearmaster‘s campaign showed me that 1668.5XX was way too early to happen after that campaign.
The colors!!! The dynamic poses!! CD fans are feasting
Always more art to consume around here….
So good

This one’s coming along too :3 can’t wait to see it colored
Another sketch in making. Is breaker. Legs are subjected to change
big scrag
Breaker!!! Can’t wait for him to become chief scav 
Nice job!
My friend made me aware of one fact. ||Given king scav happens between spears and hunter Breaker might become the sole bearer of a mark until another iterator decides to share their mark||
Breaker number 1! Biggest scav, bestest scav, ||sole bearer of the mark|| lets GOOOO!
very humanoid as well but might be for the better tbh
He is described as being like, taller and more upright than is normal for a scav, iirc
Yep, stronger and more useful legs. But I might have overdone it a small tad
Working on a little something Corroded Destiny related 
And no, this is not the next chapter
A spin off??

But aren't you going to take some exams soon-ish?
codename FLU 
Not quite.
Yes, soonish. I want to finish writing this in the relaxation period between learning phases and drop them when I am taking my exams.
I estimate one or two chapters.
Codename FLU probably gives it already of
F||ive|| L||ives|| U||nbound||?
I mean that is not a secret :p
||Far Whisper's first activation and introduction to her senior.||
||Is this to further FW x FLU agenda?
||
More like to lay some groundwork between their relationships I won't be able to explore in corroded Destiny
I'm only ~~half-~~joking!

But yeah, expect at least one not fully scummy Ancient in this 
Yippie
Oh that's interesting
Not Wish levels of saint however
So like "nice enough" levels of not scummy?
||Wish’s|| level of sainthood is frankly incredible.
True that
Not a ‚yeet them from the next cliff‘ level of non-scumminess

My sweet baby boy old man
I can only aspire to achieve said levels of noble honour.
Oh? My fic picks up in speed. Until chapter 13 was it always the case that my hits were roughly at that number times 100 and climbed to the next round number in the process to the following chapter. But here I am already approaching 15.5*100. the graph is climbing. ^^
Like a ringing prank
All the threads lined up really do feel like a neighborhood 😂
Pff
In another notes. Progress was made this morning. Am now at 1850 words with that little project
Little silly 3 min doodle of Two Eyes of the Infinite Cosmos, Administrator and Architect of Far Whisper
Ok, that was a bit unimpressive, I give you that
How about this presketch instead?
Yep, that’s Eyes
funky design
Big mask, many bandages
big humanoid rat 
I am an anthro artist after all. :p
breaking news: anthro artist draws anthro /j
Unheard of. Artist with a fable for humanoids turns ancients into lizard birbs because comfort zone
He has the curled bandage feet
He’s going out in public without Nike’s
I think they all do and shove em in the shoes (note his short the shoes are)
Ow
In conclusion: cool art. Needs jordans
Pff. Drip. By any means necessary
Making progress
Ooo love the pattern on the cape
Something tells me your GPU fucking died
Soulwing, god of both digital and traditional realms
Not exactly. My new gtx 2070 is working, but still unknown. We try to track down the correct bios for it
Novice of both realms. I know many who can make my things look bad in comparison in both departments.
I still have much room to grow
hiiii
Heyhey.
Let's gooo
I already have quite a bit written to allow you to sink your teeth in.
Whisper's backstory will however still take a bit
Welcome.
i need to write my own whisper's backstory
I call dibs on the title 'First Whisper' however
of course
Good. :3
i dunno if its something id write as a fic and post but moreso i want to flush it out more
i already have a general idea
Fair. I want it to be written out because I can 
Update: There might be something coming later today.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/56815150/chapters/144449311
The first chapter of Far Whisper' backstory is online. To expand the lore of Corroded Destiny.
reading it rn
Have fun :3
dropped a kudos :3
i really love your ocs so far
this makes me want to write about my own whisper's backstory
Glad to hear that :3
Anything you particularly enjoyed?
i really enjoy how sharp far whisper is. and of course it's always fun to read about ancient characters, i cant get enough of them
Mhm, she definitely has a sharp non-mouth.
bruhhhh, i just started the chapter and we already get a bug analogy 
already a good start
i really loved that detail too
Bugs are cool, and whisper is a full on representation of that
five pebbles has entered the chat Bug???
Buzz off, wormy 
lol wormboy
2️⃣ 👁️ ♾️ 🌠
nice chapter
||hope we get to see more from eyes, he was really interesting||
I will read soon currently makin dinner
||Depends on if I go route one or two with him.
I opt to 2, because 1 is just too swift and well ... meh||
||tbh in my case i dont even want that much more info about him, a bit of closure would probably be enough. he is just a really interesting character for me, i want some motivations
||
Will see what I can do
Just read it, good
I really liked the artwork of eyes giving the pearl to whisper
Now the accessory has lore
I also liked the detail that eyes’ mask just like… doesn’t fit? Dude is able to get an iterator made but he can’t get a mask fitted
There is an old ancient saying (tm Soulwing). If the mask sits perfectly, you enjoy existence too much and are too much in the here and now.
Sounds like something they would say
But I think the mask not fitting serves two good purposes: it reminds you that there’s a person under it, and it shows that eyes doesn’t quite “fit” in his own way in the norms of the ancients, but he keeps the mask on all the same
Good analysis :3
||furthered by the fact that he lowers the mask when he speaks from the heart||

Yes I loved this detail

Unmistakable for? I think
Ascend. This sentence also feels kinda cluncky ngl. Maybe ||"The desire of all living beings bound to the Cycle is the same - to escape, ascend"||? Also last line "the void fluid is a"
I'd move "in the long run" to the end of its sentence
Don't tempt me to meme 
Top line i'd throw out the comma. ||"But to my knowledge this privilege has not been used on any Iterator yet?"|| idk about the question mark
WHAT'S IN THE PEAR, WHISPER??
Listened to
1st sentence i'd remove the comma
She was able to
I'd put a comma before and after "however". Also either "I will do my best" or "I will do everything"
So that you? It's so that you?
Comma after looks?
I like it, shows her personality a lot
Anyways uh bets on ||taboo removal||
I think it's a qualia of eyes having a very nice dinner
something with potatoes and rosemary, prehaps
What do I bet on, hmmm
I was failing to come up with a cohesive theory so I heartily agree with Cy 

Tasty
That would be funny but I mean ||"A bug enthralled by strings can never spread its wings."||
yeah, eyes likes a little poetry with his meals, can you blame him?
Let yourself be tempted :3
A dinner at candlelight with Eyes telling Whisper in the most cheesy way possible that he views her like the child he never had due to the restrictions of karma :p
Nothing else, just something to embarrass her from the void fluid grave
Postmortem lmao
Hm i was gonna ask about the restrictions of karma and how would the population maintain itself but then I realized this is likely close to global ascention and they were in decline anyways, no?
3rd generation, final chance. The living block mass ascensions are soon beginning
Oh, right, forgot, kudos deployed 
So I guess they paid more attention to karma restrictions or they got stricter closer to MA? Cause I don't imagine they could maintain a population with such restrictions all the time
I mean more that Eyes specifically had to abide the karmic customs to keep his revered status and climb towards the right to create Far Whisper. Sacrifices had to be made for his dream
Yay
All in all I hope that this small mini series will solidify whisper‘s character. She requires much more than the other ones a coherent backstory.
Lives startup would be interesting as well. As I would need to design quite a few new characters for that :p
Because it would feature Moon, Sky, suns‘ senior and two other admins from unknown groups
That's a bunch, yeah
She is after all the coordinator over five groups. Would make sense that her first interactions would be with them
Absorbed. This might prove a crucial clue to what exactly the Ancients were up to, especially with the revelations recently covered in CD.
Might, might not.
I view the ancients less as a coherent mass but more like the following.
The less wealthy Ancients are comparable to the crew of the human ship in Wall-E. Too busy to find personal salvation, enthralled by the pessimistic view of life.
The Houses on the other hand each follow their own agenda. The goal is the same, but they are more focused on the here and now and accumulate power and influence.
In my canon have I a few houses that follow certain agendas.
The house of strings for example are in my canon the original creators of the iterators and hold a monopoly on the rights to use their blueprints.
The house of forgiveness is tied up in the Suns/Gales/etc. thing. A deeply religious group that holds on to the old ways, but is not as pure as they claim to be.
The house of chemistry, with Eyes as its leader view salvation to be found in void fluid, but to not be pure void fluid. They are the underdogs because the other houses dislike how much VF they require for their less than convincing results.
Eyes falls into the state of having become too passionate and obsessed after his wish got finally granted by the house of strings. He has sacrificed too much to not care about Far Whisper.
Banan is a trendsetter, I see.
House of 'strings'...
How cheeky 
They are the marionette players 
Anyway, I hope that was enlightening, epochs
Things are not that tightly woven.
I hate it when independent scenarios have to play into each other even if they are not designed to work together
I guess I'll see. Not sure how much House of Forgiveness would be present in this story. But I'll more or less have more information!
Good luck!


