secret-stories-misc

[unkempt yew]

[lament blade]

Situations are going to be different, the person involved will matter, the context...it's literally impossible to have a "one size fits all" answer here

[swift badge]

But how do i know i worked hard enough?

[lament blade]

But...when is "good enough" good enough?

[swift badge]

If i actually worked hard could i have done better?

[unkempt yew]

[lament blade]

Bloody hell I'm sure EVERYONE asks this question

[swift badge]

[trim tartan]

Could you? Maybe.

But if you did it again, would you?

[unkempt yew]

[swift badge]

Perhaps

[unkempt yew]

Can't help but always feel dread of overthinking stuffs again

[trim tartan]

Then, perhaps it wasn’t good enough.

[swift badge]

If i did it again i would do it better yeah?

[lament blade]

Should, could, would...

[unkempt yew]

I should do better

Been the very thing stuck in my head for so long

[lament blade]

Honestly, even when your best isn't good enough your best is still your best

[unkempt yew]

[swift badge]

[trim tartan]

You have regret. That means it probably wasn’t good enough.

[unkempt yew]

Gonna do some digital art

[trim tartan]

I’d like people to know that you don’t have to regret not having done better.

[unkempt yew]

Taking something off but can someone decide to digitalize? 👀

[trim tartan]

Maybe what you did wasn’t the best you could’ve done.

But it was what you did, and if you worked for it, be proud.

[unkempt yew]

Stroys, which ort should digitalize?

[swift badge]

2nd :D

[unkempt yew]

Aight

[lament blade]

You know? There's actually a game that mentioned it's a good thing to have regrets

It's from the guy who made "To the Moon" which I refuse to spoil because those games are fantastic, albeit emotional, stories

But honestly, would it be life if everything was perfect? No mistakes, no failures, no insurmountable struggle you can't handle...would it really be life if it were perfect?

We play Rain World for crying out loud, accepting failure and random BS screwing you over is almost a mandatory entry fee

[limpid ore]

true

[unkempt yew]

Real

[lament blade]

Slight tangent but it's also acceptable to look for help

Tunic even encourages it. Yeah you can figure everything out for yourself but the game and the developer drive the message that looking up a solution to a puzzle or asking someone for a tip is not just acceptable, it's encouraged

So...I guess accept failure, accept asking/looking for help, and accept that sometimes you have to take a step back and say you'd did what you could even if it's not "good enough"

Life already isn't fair, why make it worse chasing the impossible when you can roll with the punches and see what you can do to make the most out of the next moment?

[unkempt yew]

I forgot shading

@swift badge

[swift badge]

They’re very cool

[unkempt yew]

He's cool

(He's a momma's boy 🫵 )

[limber latch]

hi cool stories misc :) how are things?

[swift badge]

This is not the coll misc bte

Btw

Cool misc is forum misc

[limber latch]

no... that's the real misc

[swift badge]

thats the coll misc

Cool

[limpid ore]

who wants to see the ort i just finished

[limber latch]

I DO!

[olive marten]

I have just felt mortal fear for the first time

[limpid ore]

so real

[olive marten]

Shit bro so I'm a dev right

Im making a big game lotta people know

And I was just controversial for one second in a server that doesn't even know my game

[sonic remnant]

Tasty

[olive marten]

And I was oughsted instantly

Then I realized

If that guy knew I was a dev

On a game I love making

That game would not have a future

[trim tartan]

Damn.

Well, if it’s any consolation, they probably didn’t.

[olive marten]

Ok they didn't but apply that everywhere

[trim tartan]

Do be careful.

[olive marten]

And my mouth is forcefully taped shut

[trim tartan]

Fame comes with the spotlight.

[olive marten]

I can't have friends make jokes

Ik what Toby fox was talking Abt now

I can only say this to yall

Because y'all don't know me

[trim tartan]

Fair.

The spotlight isn’t as nice as most think it is.

[olive marten]

It's like I was walking across a bridge

I look back

And the rest of the bridge isn't there

Whatever I have

Is all I can ever have from then on

Fuck dude

Practically had a panic attack when that guy called me out

I don't get panick attacks but still

[trim tartan]

Do you want consolation?

[olive marten]

Wdym

[trim tartan]

Would you like me to say something?

Or would you rather I stay silent?

[olive marten]

Yeah sure

Thank you

[trim tartan]

It’s usually not as bad as you think.

[olive marten]

Ik but I've seen this happen

[trim tartan]

Just wipe it out as of now. Nobody needs to know.

[olive marten]

Ik ik what that guy called me out for he thought I was like 12 so I'm safe but still the principle applys I just saw deaths face

[trim tartan]

It’s definitely intense.

[olive marten]

Yeah but in Toby fox's experience he said he eventually got calm with it

But now I realize why devs are so reclusive

And have barley interact directly with fans

[trim tartan]

It’s because everything you say, you do, will be picked apart, yes?

[olive marten]

Yeah

Shit I guess I just gotta keep moving

[trim tartan]

With power, with fame, comes a distance between you and the average person.

Best to move on.

[olive marten]

"Friendship and love blind you to power dynamics. They are built on feelings, not calculations, and are susceptible to envy, betrayal, and inequality. True friendship can only exist between equals."

-48 Laws of power

[olive marten]

Just gotta keep moving

[long sky]

Morning bright and early stories

[fringe anchor]

[night lily]

It's almost 6pm and I'm making a new pot of tea

Surely i wont regret this decision later

[unkempt yew]

Idk tea but I'm with you

[unkempt yew]

I regret my existence after this art

Ascending myself, now! 🌩️

/nsrs

[trim tartan]

Buff wolf women.

[unkempt yew]

Sorry but it's not sadly

[trim tartan]

Twink?

[unkempt yew]

It's...um... An incredibox mod that has been heavily used by content farm

-# bastards

I remembered that it was used to be unique

[unkempt yew]

But if I do gonna draw one, gonna prepare me a reference art and is this how breaking down the picture works?

[trim tartan]

This does work, yes.

I do tend to do more of the head, but this should work.

[unkempt yew]

I see, I see

[unkempt yew]

You do pixel art, right?

[trim tartan]

Used to, haven’t done it in a long while. Why?

[unkempt yew]

Mayhaps I'll try pixel art in phone

[trim tartan]

Ooh, I wouldn’t do that.

Possible, yes.

Painful, also yes.

[unkempt yew]

👀

I played LoL, how hard can it be?

[olive marten]

[limpid ore]

i should not be allowed to use the internet\

i keep downloading makeup for the sims 4

[limpid ore]

my mods folder keeps expanding

[long sky]

my god

[olive marten]

[olive marten]

Rainers wsp

[iron sorrel]

Wawa

@unkempt yew

[unkempt yew]

[unkempt yew]

I'm interested with the lore of Miquella for no reason at all

[iron sorrel]

Ok

Here we go

So you remember everything with Marika and the Gates of Divinity and the Land of Shadow right?

Because I am not reviewing all of that

[unkempt yew]

I'm gonna research on my own if I wanna review again

[iron sorrel]

Alrighty

So when Marika and Radagon had their children

One of them was Miquella the Kind, a demigod with the ability to induce loyalty in people with only a touch

Miquella was cursed to forever appear young, and he yearned for freedom from his body so he could ascend into a God

As Miquella aged, he watched horrors and cruelties in the world and vowed to make the world a gentler place when he ascended to godhood

So, after the Shattering, he began his plan

He retreated into the Haligtree, a haven he had made for the Albinaurics and his sister, but also a nesting place for him, as he built his cocoon to ascend into a new body

Beforehand, he had used his abilities on his sister, Malenia, and Mohg, an omen who had was hiding underground, building his own dynasty

He sent his sister to fight and kill Radahn, while Mohg invaded the Haligtree to "kidnap" Miquella and bring him to the Moghwyn Dynasty

While Miquella was there, he finally finished ascending from his body and went to the Land of Shadow, his mother's homeland and where she ascended into godhood

As he journeyed to the Gates of Divinity, he starting casting off parts of his being that he considered obstacles to making the world perfect

His arm, his legs, his eyes, his doubts

But Miquella made one mistake

He cast off his kindness, his compassion, his love
He had thought it would cause some unintentional bias, but instead it made him a cruel, single minded being, numb to the purpose he had set out for to begin with

The literal embodiment of Miquella's kindness, Saint Trina, tells you herself to kill Miquella

So you do

[unkempt yew]

[iron sorrel]

And when you find Miquella, and his Consort, it's revealed why he sent his sister after Radahn and had to brainwash Mohg

He saw a lord within Radahn, a righteous warrior who could carry him into godhood

So he had Radahn killed, so his soul would eventually drift to the Land of Shadow

And he had Mohg killed by the Tarnished, so his remains could be recycled as a new body for Radahn

[unkempt yew]

Now, I see everything

[iron sorrel]

Yuj

Overall Miquella's story is pretty fucked up

Because

Even before he y'know

Literally removed his compassion from his being

[unkempt yew]

But still, was it accidental that he cast off his kindness?

[iron sorrel]

He was still really morally questionable

[iron sorrel]

Intentional

He thought it would lead to some sort of inbuilt bias

[unkempt yew]

He is the grandmaster of this DLC

[iron sorrel]

Basically yeah

[unkempt yew]

Even during the boss fight, idk how many grabs from the boss to become loyal to him

-# also, did you face him?

[iron sorrel]

2

[iron sorrel]

Not in the arc, but I did beat him yeah

[unkempt yew]

just two grabs?

[iron sorrel]

You can cure the status effect to reset the counter but it's a pain in the ass

[unkempt yew]

Holy shit, a fumble would ruin everything in that fight

No, every fumble in that boss fight would ruin everything

I've seen it from a youtuber

It was scary

[iron sorrel]

It's pretty well telegraphed

I could show you my fight if you'd like

[unkempt yew]

👀

[iron sorrel]

Four days of attempts
https://youtu.be/vqQ4AEZ8IZs

Alrighty I gtg

Was fun talking to you

[unkempt yew]

-# Also, how can you fight with the camera and the blinding light? Truly a god slayer moment

[trim tartan]

Can anyone hop on the server?

It's real lonely here.

[unkempt yew]

I wish

But patience is a virtue indeed

[limpid ore]

i have pooby internet so i could never join

[unkempt yew]

My time will come as a hired sword will soon come

[limpid ore]

also java edition hates my puter and i need like twenty mods to make it run NOT like ass

[swift badge]

What server

Mine..Minecraft server?

[unkempt yew]

Stroy has minceraft server for months now

[trim tartan]

Yes.

[fringe anchor]

I have school and stuff, so no

[fringe anchor]

Gotta ask epochs for access

[trim tartan]

Sad. Well, I tried.

[swift badge]

[iron totem]

(Keep in mind a minecraft server owner can see your ip adress)

[swift badge]

How did i not know that

[iron totem]

Epochs is a good lad but just so you're aware

[swift badge]

Uncle epochs would never use my information for malicious purposes

[fringe anchor]

And he had to give up his IP, this is mutually assured destruction we are talking about /j /lh /silly

[iron totem]

Hmm true

[trim tartan]

Also, we aren't bad people. Mischievous, yes. Malicious, no.

[unkempt yew]

Can't even join

[swift badge]

Hmm I have a rather unused java Minecraft account

[swift badge]

[unkempt yew]

I want to spread chaos and evil love and hope to villagers around

[swift badge]

Thats what you think cele

[trim tartan]

Ha! You do not want to test me. /j

[iron totem]

You do have a set with rules you agree on or something?

[trim tartan]

The rule is as follows.

[iron totem]

Basic decency like "don't ruin other's builds without permission"

[swift badge]

I smite their towns

[trim tartan]

"Don't be a dick".

[iron totem]

Good rule

[swift badge]

Covers all the bases

[unkempt yew]

I pillage and raze villagers

[swift badge]

Perfect sticker

[iron totem]

Can you lavacast your own base? Assuming it is a bit away from everyone else so it's not an eyesore

[trim tartan]

It's a small server, human decency is still a thing.

[unkempt yew]

What a time of becoming a mercenary

[trim tartan]

Why would you do that?

[swift badge]

lava pillar

random creeper craters

[iron totem]

You can build layers of bases

[swift badge]

100 block tall dirt tower to find your base

[iron totem]

You do fill in your creeper holes, right ?

[unkempt yew]

Idk how to make houses properly

[trim tartan]

We don't have creeper holes. Well, not a lot of them.

I think we fill ours up.

[iron totem]

Make a box, put door in box + bed + crafting table + furnace

[unkempt yew]

I only build blockish 9×9×9 houses

[iron totem]

That's a house

[trim tartan]

If it's your base and you don't, sucks to be you.

If it's another person's base, refer to The Rule.

[iron totem]

Have you shown me your base celestium?

[unkempt yew]

And maybe this month, I'll join under the banner of Epochs, Solaris or Amany

-# As long who pays more

[trim tartan]

Think I have.

Hold on.

[iron totem]

You've shown me a stable before

[trim tartan]

The portal.

The humble abode.

Redstone chicanery.

Slime farm.

[iron totem]

Looks neat

[trim tartan]

That's about it.

The portal, stable and house are parts you look at, they look good for this reason.

The rest are bare utilities.

[iron totem]

Mixing soulsand and mangrove logs?

Huh, neat combo

[unkempt yew]

Nice abode

[trim tartan]

Those are jungle, by the way, not mangrove.

[iron totem]

Ah, my bad

[iron totem]

What's this slimestone thingy?

[trim tartan]

Soon-to-be iron farm.

[iron totem]

Niceee

[trim tartan]

We already have iron farms, but I want a faster one.

In comparison, if we take that the existing farms have produced 20000 iron in total, this farm could make that in about four hours.

[iron totem]

Actually, do you know how pearl canons work with the newest update? Pearls load chunks now

Makes it easy to make chunkloaders instead of dealing with nether portals

[trim tartan]

No, not really!

[trim tartan]

Epochs has built one.

[swift badge]

Maybe, maybe not

[trim tartan]

Access denied. /j

[unkempt yew]

One layer of dirt would do the trick

[swift badge]

Yep make sure all the mobs spawn down there yeah?

/silly

I made the mistake of doing that and when i dug down there were a whole lot of friends waiting for me

[unkempt yew]

Hah! I always put torches before putting dirt

[swift badge]

Torches

Underground :(

All alone

[unkempt yew]

Two torches next time then

[night lily]

always light up the hole because it's dangerous:
Always light up the hole because it wouldn't interfere with mob spawn caps

[trim tartan]

Honestly, planning to tear open a perimeter if I ever get the supplies for it.

Mega iron farm is step 1.

This isn't the Maxi, which produces upwards of 11000 iron per hour. I'm not insane and I have enough entities around my base anyway.

But 5000 iron farm should be really decent.

[iron totem]

More than you need, really

Iron farms on bedrock suck

[trim tartan]

Ha! I tried thrice in an old world.

[iron totem]

Max rate for one village stack is 440iron/h

[trim tartan]

Glad I don't play Bedrock anymore.

[iron totem]

And they are harder to build

To get a decent 1k+ iron per hour you need to stack 4 villages which is a pain and prone to breaking

Also requires 80 villagers

[night lily]

Oh... Bedrock's iron golem spawning still uses the old system huh

[iron totem]

Bedrock let's you fill cauldrons with potions and is more optimized, though.

And shulker shells have a 100% drop rate even without looting

With looting 3 every shulker drops 2 shells guaranteed while on java looting 3 gives you a 60% chance for 1 to drop

[night lily]

can't argue with Bedrock's greatly superior optimization. I remember it being almost lag free on a potato computer

[iron totem]

I've found java with sodium to run much better, though.

[trim tartan]

Doesn't matter on my computer, to be honest.

Both either run smoothly or get lag spikes.

[iron totem]

Oh yeah, armourer villagers require at least 2 in order to get all diamond armour pieces

[night lily]

Really? I still find Sodium sometimes causes stutters.

[iron totem]

Yeah

That's my machine, though.

[trim tartan]

Sodium did what Mojang wouldn't, though - compromising on some niche things.

[iron totem]

What exactly?

[trim tartan]

Visuals.

I think this was back in 1.17, though, which is...

Ouch. Time flies.

Zombies for the future secured.

Also, it's always raining.

-# The sun shone brighter when she was here.

[iron totem]

I hate dealing with villagers, they're the worst

[trim tartan]

Now that the difficulty is hard, I can do the zombification.

It’s honestly the most satisfying part.

Seeing the little wretches suffer and die, only to bring them back again.

[trim tartan]

Oh, right. It’s a reference.

[iron totem]

Wait, is it?

[trim tartan]

Yes.

[unkempt yew]

Evening stroy

Rate this art

Hmmm, maybe soiler for a bit

Spoiler: Minor blood???

[unkempt yew]

@night lily

[limpid ore]

your proportions seem to be getting better

[unkempt yew]

Thanks

[limpid ore]

[limpid ore]

which

[fringe anchor]

The left one has been through some shit

Uhh, middle?

[limpid ore]

im making the little rundown sig and hunter apartment

[lethal kindle]

def middle then

[sonic remnant]

I'm doing this here because yall are why I enjoyed it, I'll delete it if needed tho

[limpid ore]

[lament blade]

'Ello cultists, music question this time

Let's take fantasy music vs space music

Is it just me or does fantasy make you feel like you're about to go off on a grand adventure or are living in a world that's larger than life?

As for space, anyone else just feel..."small"? Like, you're just existing before the sheer vastness of the universe and all you can do is stare into it?

[meager moat]

Yeah, I suppose it fits what most stories involving fantasy and space feel like,

[lament blade]

As for what brought this up, listening to the Endless Legend OST and got me thinking

[night lily]

there are some exceptions ofc

We have Lift Off from Outer WIlds does give the sense of wonder very well

[lament blade]

Oh well I didn't mean to imply space music makes you just feel insignificant

But rather that the universe is...well the universe. It's awesome, mind boggling gigantic, terrifying...just there and you're in it

[trim tartan]

I mean, thinking about space gives you the same feeling.

The universe does not care if we understand it.

[lament blade]

Like, you just stand on the edge of a mountain and look down on a valley and all you CAN do is stare at it

[trim tartan]

It’s so much bigger than you are, so much more.

[lament blade]

Yet, so are fantasy worlds

[trim tartan]

You’ll never truly be able to comprehend it. There’s a beauty to that.

The difference is a matter of scale.

[lament blade]

And when I look at Monster Hunter, Ori, Rain World, etc. I look at the world and say "let's go"

[trim tartan]

Fantasy is generally small, but packed with content.

Space is massive. It’s mostly empty, but massive.

[lament blade]

And this is also just the music I'm talking about...

[meager moat]

The difference is that you may be able to explore it all

[trim tartan]

Space? You can never explore it all.

It’s too vast, and it doesn’t care if you do.

Fantasy generally cares a bit more.

[meager moat]

For every planet in the milky way, you would have to spend less than a fraction of a second on each of them to be able to see it all within a lifetime, maybe not even that

[lament blade]

I never played Outer Wilds (at least as of this message), but I have listened to the OST. Frankly it sounds like you just kick up your feet, crack open a can of your favorite drink, and watch the universe

[trim tartan]

To be honest, that’s what I’m expecting out of the experience.

Music—or a lack thereof—can make or break a scene.

[lament blade]

I mean, Stargazer on top of Five Pebbles' can the first time you play Survivor

Or really, any time you go the intended route

And then the Wall just being nothing but the wind

[trim tartan]

A thing I grieve of a story told through words is that we don’t have music or the ability to contrast that with the lack of it.

[lament blade]

(Looks at A Harmonic Symphony with every chapter being focused around a piece of music)

[trim tartan]

Maybe you can, but there is no guarantee that you’ll listen to the right thing at the right time.

The fast reader might blitz through everything and end up at the climax before the music reaches it, the slow reader might lag behind.

Unless you’re using a video format, wildly impractical.

You can build it around a piece or song, yes.

[lament blade]

Mostly this is what I'm doing

[trim tartan]

You can’t really format the two together without compromising potential experience or the ability to read at your own pace.

[lament blade]

Well, somewhat of break from feeling "small" but who else here has played Starbound?

Because while that game really does have a whole universe of planets to go romping on, a lot of the music just feels like you're exploring places

Not being insignificant, not being a blip on the map, just...looking at whatever planet you're on and exploring it

[trim tartan]

Old Minecraft felt like this.

You’re exploring a world.

A world laid bare.

[iron totem]

Minecraft still feels like that to me

Old MC has its own charm, though

I like its simpleness

[trim tartan]

The music is just there. Ever so subtle, yet so pretty.

[trim tartan]

With newer updates, we already know what’s going into it.

A part of older Minecraft’s charm wasn’t the game itself, it was the mystery surrounding it.

[trim tartan]

Now, I feel like Minecraft is but a sandbox.

Basically, godmode.

Builders shaped it into a 3D canvas.

Technical players know all the rules and how to break them.

Combat remains largely the same.

Exploration becomes more walking to get somewhere than wandering.

[iron totem]

I prefer post 1.9 combat actually

[trim tartan]

Sweeping is very convenient!

[lament blade]

Well, since I brought up Endless Legend

[trim tartan]

My main gripe with the newer versions and the culture surrounding Minecraft is that the mystery, the factor of the unknown is just gone.

[lament blade]

For a 4X game I find the music in there really adds to the fact that Auriga is a world with multiple civilizations

[trim tartan]

You aren’t wandering to wander. You are planning to get somewhere.

You are traveling, not exploring.

It is hardly the game’s fault, though the skin-deep features does add to it.

[iron totem]

That's fair, I don't feel that way, though

[trim tartan]

But the general mystery, the community not knowing the game was a massive charm to it.

[iron totem]

Also, most players aren't super good at building, combat or redstone or know every feature.

[lament blade]

Busy cities going about their day, empires are planning their next diplomatic meeting, the changing of seasons, and the shrinking of the world with the ever expanding ambitions of others forcing many to make hard choices...somehow I can hear it in the music

[trim tartan]

Perhaps me going at the game for too long has ripped away its immersion.

[iron totem]

Those engaging in the community are not the majority and are more dedicated than the average player.

[trim tartan]

I’d say I’m pretty balanced outside combat.

[iron totem]

Same with any game, really

[trim tartan]

I don’t want to do that with Rain World.

[iron totem]

I feel having a lot of tech and knowledge of rain world makes it more enjoyable for me

[trim tartan]

Minecraft has little ground left to tread.

[lament blade]

I mean, there's the fact the movement system is basically Melee levels of complex

[trim tartan]

What I mean to say is that if I ever master the game, I want to do it by myself.

I’m not going to look up how much health a green lizard has. I’m figuring it out by stabbing the shit out of one.

[iron totem]

What matters is that you're having fun

[lament blade]

Something that I think has been lost sadly

[trim tartan]

With Rain World, the thing is that you’re learning to explore the world. Learning to master the ecosystem.

[iron totem]

I think it's fun looking at the source code (I love randi's random infodumps)

[trim tartan]

With Minecraft, you’re essentially breaking the rules of the game.

[lament blade]

A lot of games either are focused on balance, bloated maps with actually very little substance, or too many features to remember

[iron totem]

I mean #movement is breaking the game pretty heavily regularily

[lament blade]

What happened to just having fun?

[trim tartan]

-# I don’t like the premise of wiggle flight.

Still, highly specific, the developers should let the movement folks have it.

[iron totem]

It requires several tick perfect inputs in a row and is very hard to do

[trim tartan]

Everything that requires frame-perfect input is fine to me.

If you had to work really hard to break the game that way, you earned it.

[iron totem]

If you don't want broken exploits and techs you can turn off a setting called "vanilla exploits" in remix (it's off by default)

[lament blade]

I mentioned a while ago Napoleon Total War. For obvious reasons, France is VERY powerful and is the main force in the game. Anyone going up against a French army better be ready for a fight and if Bonapart himself shows up? Boss battle time

[trim tartan]

You aren’t really impacting the average player’s experience.

[iron totem]

The techs that remain you will likely never find by yourself

[lament blade]

Granted, France does have weaknesses and is completely surrounded but even so it's a monster to go up against

[trim tartan]

But the ludicrously easy farms in Minecraft manipulate it in a way that snaps you out of the little game there actually is.

[iron totem]

I really appreciate the devs for letting certain exploits be in the game for those willing.
If they were to suddenly remove those exploits, it would ruin the game for me

[trim tartan]

How much “game” is actually in Minecraft?

[swift badge]

Are we talking about France or-

[iron totem]

A lot, actually.
If you feel that farms are too op, you can not use them?

I delay maxing out villagers for this reason

[trim tartan]

Eh, is there any option to not lag behind?

[iron totem]

"Lag behind"
On single player?

[lament blade]

My favorite memories of playing Smash Bros. weren't winning a tournament and mastering the movement system. I remember sitting down with my friends, items on, maps being whatever, us picking our favorite characters, and having at it in utter chaos

[trim tartan]

The server.

[iron totem]

Not really, but you can talk with your friends have some rules that you agree upon

I play mostly single player, that's where I'm coming from

I take minecraft slow

[trim tartan]

How much of the “game” is intentional?

It’s a sandbox. And one that doesn’t hold players very well.

The two week Minecraft phase is very real.

[limpid ore]

me when i spend seven real hours building a dinky ass house:

[iron totem]

It does for the majority of players

Remember most people don't build many farms and such

(I find farms fun, though)

[trim tartan]

I do, too.

I will say, I find them fun, if not a bit boring to build.

[iron totem]

Yeah, that's very cool
I like running around with stone tools for many hours

[trim tartan]

But the game can and will slap you with the easy way out if you know it.

There is no incentive to do it the slow way.

[lament blade]

(Goes from music in games, to Mincraft with me semi-ranting on how games are focusing on other things besides fun...)

[trim tartan]

You know the optimal strategy.

Spawn, head for a village, then do shit there.

[sonic remnant]

Hmm

[iron totem]

That's boring for me so I don't do it

[sonic remnant]

This sounds so weird out of context

[trim tartan]

If you want to abuse glitches, there’s always string duping.

[sonic remnant]

Wait misread

I didn't see the first comma

Lmao

[trim tartan]

Comes back to the possibility of the easy way out slapping you in the face.

[lament blade]

Someone, I THINK the developer for Civilization 4, said "players will find ways to optimize the fun out of games"

Maybe not the exact quote, but close enough to drive the point

[trim tartan]

The difference is in a game so old and so popular, everything has been optimized for you.

The process is satisfying.

[lament blade]

Well, what if I don't want "optimized"?

[trim tartan]

Then the possibility looms over you.

[iron totem]

It's a sandbox at the end of the day; you play how you want

[lament blade]

I don't want to know how to one shot a Red Lizard, I want it to be a challenge

[trim tartan]

You know it’s there.

[trim tartan]

As far as I know, you can’t?

[iron totem]

You can

Singularity bomb

[trim tartan]

If there’s a method, I bet it’s pretty wildly impractical.

[lament blade]

I know and in brief sprints this actually can be fun. But the entire game built to be optimized with a "meta"?

[iron totem]

Or knock it into a death pit

[trim tartan]

Thought so.

It’s more so a fun trick that presents itself than a looming possibility.

[sonic remnant]

I'm thinking of putting some mentions of friends in my stories, would anyone here like to be apart of that?

[trim tartan]

I wouldn’t mind.

[iron totem]

Anyway, you can kill a red liz very easily with either an electric spear, jellyfish, or two mouth spears into 4 normal stabs while stunned

[trim tartan]

E-spears do not come easy.

Jellyfish would require you to get to Shoreline. Not an option when you’re struggling with Outskirts.

[sonic remnant]

How would you like to be mentioned? Direct name, description of you or a character? Smth else?

[trim tartan]

What story is it?

[iron totem]

There's a very high chance of at least one in scav treasuries as arti and spear, the expected value is 0.6 something for hunter if I remember correctly

[lament blade]

What ever happened to being that one guy running around with arguably the worst gun in a game being a gremlin for the fun of it and laughing as you did so?

And the other guys laughing with you?

[iron totem]

Trueeeeee

[trim tartan]

In any case, probably just a sort of little reference.

[sonic remnant]

Well, thar could also be up to you, it could be with my dragons, or I could put it for a part of the rw fanfic au thing where some of my characters are put into rw

[trim tartan]

“They who go by many names.”

[sonic remnant]

Its not fully decided, I'm mostly gauging interest in that kinda thing

[lament blade]

What about picking Pichu against the guy playing Gannondorf and SOMEHOW winning by dumb luck and everyone having fun?

[trim tartan]

I’d argue they’re still a bit too hard to come by to be really reliable.

[iron totem]

I disagree

Anyway, see the gladiator challenge

You kill three red lizards in three different regions on the starting cycle as spearmaster

[lament blade]

Or just finding the best sword in an RPG and equipping it not because it's the "best way to play thr game" but rather it's an upgrade and you were rewarded for doing a side objective that actually plays into the main story?

[trim tartan]

Also, MSC.

MSC is additional, paywalled content.

[lament blade]

Am I just being a crotchety old stinker with these comments???

[iron totem]

#1268412914671423538 message

Here's how to easily kill them as hunter

[trim tartan]

A weapon I’ll probably never get to use!

[iron totem]

Not with electric spears

This is ordinary spears

[trim tartan]

No, I mean, I’ll probably never have enough spears.

[iron totem]

You almost always have two spears as hunter

It is doable with 1 spear too, just a little slower

[trim tartan]

This interests me.

But again, it’s a trick.

It can become routine, but it doesn’t feel like it breaks the game.

I don’t know, I feel as though Bedrock actually has the better balancing outside glitches.

It’s actually a game that is challenging, not an “regular player can beat the game in, like, an hour” deal.

Weaker iron farms, much less predictable mob AI?

Sounds like a game.

I hate Bedrock for its glitches, not the balance.

[olive marten]

when the world has rain\

[trim tartan]

Also, potion cauldrons and tipping arrows with them is really cool.

Mojang, can we have that in Java, please?

[lament blade]

How about this one: Anyone actually sit down with friends for the Arena?

I enjoy/hate campaign as much as e eryone else

But anyone just gather some friends and just...screw around in the Arena for the fun of it?

[trim tartan]

Did that once.

Cy murdered me in cold blood.

[lament blade]

And?

[trim tartan]

Let’s just say, I went for him immediately the very next round.

[lament blade]

You had fun?

[trim tartan]

Friends make any game fun.

[lament blade]

I remember a particular memory of playing Medal of Honor Frontline with a friend once

[trim tartan]

Became a fun little game of “who can survive the longest” between the two of us.

[lament blade]

I was mostly screwing around, running in crazy maneuvers, you get it

But the main memory was me bunny hopping on a chimney

[trim tartan]

Arena is a “fucking around” kind of experience.

[lament blade]

After failing to land a hit on me with an STG, the bazooka came out

I somehow survived but I was RUNNING and going "OH SHIT!" all while having a goofy grin on my face

So yes, I have a fond memory of getting blown up by rocket launcher

Can anyone really say the same for most games these days with that?

I mean, yes the rocket launcher can be used but it's often to win...not to have fun

[iron totem]

Depends on what games you play

I play indie games

[fringe anchor]

sometimes, can be fun

[lament blade]

True, very true

[iron totem]

Use snails when playing coop

So fun

[lament blade]

And I can easily see it being fun to be Saint and just delete a Leviathan to save a friend from being eaten

[iron totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/824027398948782180/1204111551423053864/dragon_skip.gif

Ledge throw wall pounce

[limpid ore]

yeah i am never doing that

[iron totem]

It's not that bad, actually!

[lament blade]

...who thought that up and why?

[iron totem]

While falling off a ledge, press jump + left + throw on the same tick

[lament blade]

I mean, I'm glad it's in there because people breaking the game and getting away with it is also fun but how and why?

[meager moat]

On that last one, Some people's fun, is all of that complexity

[lament blade]

Also true

[iron totem]

Ask in #movement

[lament blade]

And I'm not saying balance is an inherently "bad" thing

[iron totem]

They're not scary and will gladly help answer any questions

[lament blade]

But why does everyone have to be equal to be "balanced"?

Why does there have to be a "meta build"?

[meager moat]

Things being unbalanced can cause a lot of people to get frustrated, a really good rule to take on while game developing is making a lost feel like it was truly the player's fault

[lament blade]

Well, I'm not saying it has to be unfair also. Not every game needs to be Rain World

Going back to Napoleon Total War for a sec, Britain actually has the superior basic line infantry

[iron totem]

Rain world is quite fair most of the time, actually

[meager moat]

But not all games need to be chess as well.

[iron totem]

Though the first player experience is rough since you don't know much

[lament blade]

That's my argument also

[meager moat]

[lament blade]

Actually, bit surprised I didn't think of chess

[iron totem]

And sometimes you get into silly situations

[iron totem]

Ignore the off screen scav spears (which you sometimes can predict and play around)

[lament blade]

Again, in Napoleoen France might be the main star and most powerful force in thr game, but it has a lot of issues that make it "balanced"

[meager moat]

Didn't the original rw devs say that rain world was highly unfair

[iron totem]

I don't remember, they did say they didn't design it to be difficult like that, it just happened

They added a lot of food right before release since people found it too hard

Good thing

The worst mechanic in rw is the karma gates

[lament blade]

Its navy falls behind Britain, it has multiple fronts to deal with, the light infantry are actually subpar, and even when having the best elite infantry in the game those troops are late game and expensive. The Old Gaurd also can take heavy damage from a non-experienced light field gun across the map...

[meager moat]

But there's even a in game setting to turn those off

[lament blade]

Does a game always need to be chess? No, of course not. Does it have to be unnecessarily difficult? Depends on who you ask but also no. Does it need to be a competition all the time? Sounds exhausting.

[knotty sierra]

My enjoyment of the game would've skyrocketed had they not existed. Their very presence taints the way I play.

[lament blade]

Why can't I just pick a goofy map, find the worst gun on the map, and run around cackling away like a loon and still have fun even when I lose?

For all I know, picking Saint in a lobby full of Artificers and surviving as the last Slugcat standing can happen and it can also see the good natured trash talk and laughs happening

[lament blade]

As for these, you can disable the Karma requirements in remix options

[knotty sierra]

I'll probably do that come Watcher, but I'd still have to unlearn my prior overly cautious play style.

[lament blade]

If it makes you feel better, the Karma gate in Underhang to Pebbles can toast off to Hell

All other gates that require high Karma I understand and can even appreciate because they aren't the intended game route and can be seen as challenge paths. That gate though? Why is it Karma 5 in a place that is stupidly easy to die in?

[plucky zenith]

to make you suffer

Rain World style

[lime ingot]

Iterator karma gates are the only canon karma gates in the game so that's probably why

[iron totem]

You have three options:

1. Turn on the "Disable all karma requirements" setting in remix, it's under major assists.
2. Turn on monk style gates. After you've passed a gate it will be permanently open
3. Turn on vanilla exploits and use the karma cache exploit

To karma cache, starve and in the next cycle quit out before 30 seconds have passed. When you re-enter you will now have +1 karma but no starve state.

[fringe anchor]

-# guys i think my wallet will implode soon

[buoyant pike]

five pebbles pin i can die happy now

boyfriend on my lanyard

[swift badge]

[fringe anchor]

So true, bought it and moon and a few other things

[swift badge]

Oh my god they have itty pins

How the hell didi miss this

Oh my god i need one

OH MY GOD

THEY RESTOCKED THE PLUSHIES TOO????????

HOW DID I MISS THIS

IM GETTING ONE

the money i saved up will come to good use

[fringe anchor]

A small price to pay for

[fringe anchor]

I love this emote server

[swift badge]

[limber latch]

hi you :D

[swift badge]

Ello

[limber latch]

how are you? :D

[swift badge]

Im trying to decide how to spend around 50 dollars on rainworld merch

[limber latch]

[swift badge]

I can but both itty plushies or a pin and and a plushie

[fringe anchor]

Wouldn't it be two plushies or a plushie and two pins?

(Roughly)

[swift badge]

Thats 55

50 is already pushing it

[fringe anchor]

Oof

[swift badge]

My mother doest like me spending money on this kinda stuff

[limpid ore]

this is peak scav design

no thought head empy

[swift badge]

Anton

[unkempt yew]

Seen new ort?

Also morning

[swift badge]

Where

[unkempt yew]

[swift badge]

I need help

[unkempt yew]

Ya?

[swift badge]

Where art

[swift badge]

Im in a dilemma

Rw merch drop

I hace 50 dollars to spend

On my precious babies

(Itties)

[unkempt yew]

But do you have any money left if you buy it then?

[limber latch]

plushies or plushie and a pin? that's the deal right?

[swift badge]

I dont pay the bills

[swift badge]

Yes

But more importantly; WHO

who do i like better if i get pin

Cause i love pins

[unkempt yew]

Do you really like a plushie?

[swift badge]

I like pins and plushies equally

[limber latch]

ok well if you get two plushies what are you planning on doing with them? same for the pin?
this is important to consider

[swift badge]

I mean my brother wants fp plushie

[swift badge]

Serotonin

[unkempt yew]

Benefits two people

[limber latch]

[swift badge]

But i have a feeling he woulnt buy it himself the prick

And i cant just leave my dear baby moon

[unkempt yew]

[unkempt yew]

Then would it be 2 plushies if you didn't choose the pin one?

[swift badge]

I think thats good ebough

But... Pin...

[unkempt yew]

Now I'm in a dilemma too

Either buying something with your brother or getting a pin

[swift badge]

Maybe i can convince him to buy fp

So i dont have to pay for it

[unkempt yew]

[swift badge]

But then...

Which pin....

To choose

[unkempt yew]

That is out of my reach, sadly

-# Pick Moon

[swift badge]

Moon is cute but five pebbles looks epic

They put the emo eyeliner and everything

And you could say i prefer pebbs since he doesnt die in omf

The jerk lives

[unkempt yew]

So you will buy then?

[unkempt yew]

Also, in terms of ort, remember this ye?

[swift badge]

Ya

Fire art

[unkempt yew]

Have the alternate version (gonna spoiler because the reason why)

[swift badge]

[unkempt yew]

The anonymous artist told me to work on snout and 3/4

[swift badge]

3/4 are hard

[unkempt yew]

Man, I do love making fics about something like that

[swift badge]

Smth like what

[unkempt yew]

I do remember making a fic about a wolf woman was possessive

[unkempt yew]

[swift badge]

Divine judgement

[unkempt yew]

Wait, that was past me, he likes to writer something like that

[swift badge]

Hows the writing going, anyways?

[unkempt yew]

5.4k now

[swift badge]

[unkempt yew]

Still haven't finished

[swift badge]

Yarpee

[swift badge]

Make longer

[unkempt yew]

Gonna skip some things on the way because-

[unkempt yew]

Look, i just want to get to the point where they reach the thing in chapter 1

[swift badge]

Eugh

I dont like the lighting on that sticker

It makes it look like surv w yellow backlight

But its supposed to be monk

Make shadow warmer maybe

[swift badge]

Are you going to write a holiday special?

[unkempt yew]

Chirsmas?

Mayhaps, ig?

[swift badge]

Chrismas

[unkempt yew]

I mean, I could a lil oneshot about it

But need the idea

Not some random furry oneshot where there's forbidden love or unrequited love

[swift badge]

Im gonna make sliver of straw jesus

[unkempt yew]

Now got two options for holiday, either rw chirsmas oneshot or some furry chirsmas oneshot

[swift badge]

Rw

Put your favorite itty and your favorite slugcat in there

And make them santa and

WAIT

Itty as santa and a shi ton slugcats as reindeer

[unkempt yew]

[unkempt yew]

For the record, I don't have an favorite /silly

[swift badge]

[unkempt yew]

-# I cherish Apex more than Sitter (shitter)

[swift badge]

[unkempt yew]

But mayhaps a small oneshot about reminisce

[swift badge]

Slugcats forcefully put a santa claus suit on five pebbles (nsh live reaction)

[swift badge]

[unkempt yew]

[unkempt yew]

For the sake of chirsmas spirit, gonna give something for my OC

[unkempt yew]

@plucky zenith

[plucky zenith]

fun pre-battle rituals

[unkempt yew]

We love speech before battles

[long sky]

Day 70 of searching for the best writing food:

I bought the wrong steak at the market

It's big enough to feed three people...

So I guess,

We'll see

[fringe anchor]

Why does this make me think of round meal

Have a nice meal tho! I like steaks

[long sky]

[unkempt yew]

Steak? Is it like beef?

[long sky]

Oui

[unkempt yew]

[long sky]

Results are in: eepy

So far not conducive to writing

Results are still inconclusive as long-term effects will need observation

[unkempt yew]

Writing block?

[swift badge]

Did you eat all of it?

[long sky]

Ate most of it

Rest is for being leftovers

[swift badge]

[long sky]

Ohh hoho

It's moving

[swift badge]

M-movement

[long sky]

Movement movement

[swift badge]

Youve animated before? It looks real good

[long sky]

I haven't, but I spent like 7 hours watching people animate before I even attempted

[swift badge]

[long sky]

Animation-mode gartic phone videos on YouTube made it seem so much less intimidating

It's still HARD

[swift badge]

Its so good though

[long sky]

Ty! Don't you animate or is that drymm?

[swift badge]

Drymm animates

I dont

[long sky]

Ah, okay

I've seen some of their stuff on YouTube, it's very impressive how smooth people are able to animate

[swift badge]

drymms stuff is amazing

Smooth animation

I hope to achieve that skill one day

[long sky]

You can do it you can do it!

[fringe anchor]

daaaaamn

[scenic escarp]

You can do it

[swift badge]

Now i regret doing the writing/drawing tradeoff

Oh to sit down and animate for longer than... 30 minutes...

[limpid ore]

i aint making the hunter apartment in a whole ass apartment building so here's the outside on ground level

i have finished the hunter apartment

[unkempt yew]

Tryna to draw Kindred

-# My LoL main, they're beautiful (I forgor to draw Wolf)

[iron totem]

Nice

[unkempt yew]

Kinda hard to draw actually

[iron totem]

I think you did a good job :3

Anyway, have this stories: https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist

Requires ublock origin or ublacklist

[unkempt yew]

Waz that

[iron totem]

Doesn't work on mobile sadly :/

[unkempt yew]

[iron totem]

Removes ai results from search results

When you want to look up art for instance

[unkempt yew]

Ah, I see

[iron totem]

I wish extensions worked on mobile

[unkempt yew]

Guess I'll endure AI

[lime ingot]

Some browsers allow extensions for mobile users

[unkempt yew]

@ocean void

[ocean void]

Hihi

[unkempt yew]

So, nonrw OC

[ocean void]

Yah

I've got a lot of dragons and little critters but mainly the former

I kinda wanna do something with this guy (I have yet to give him an actual ref oopsies)

[unkempt yew]

I see, I see

[unkempt yew]

Do you have a specific setting for OC? 👀

[ocean void]

Probably the palace and/or capital of their kingdom, he's like a prince kinda thing
They have rules on royalty, so he's not old enough to have any titles or importance or anything, but he is biologically royal

He feels kinda awkward to talk about lol

[unkempt yew]

So he's a prince in a ruined castle or a refurbished ones? Or maybe he's a royalty in the mountains or the forest?

[ocean void]

It's probably a mix for both, like I know there's a mountain range with a forest to the west (?)
I could do something with his relatives? He's the third of the name, so I could write something about the first one if I can't think of anything for him

[unkempt yew]

So he lives in the forest in the mountain ranges and he's the third sibling?

[ocean void]

Yes basically
He's the third sibling and the third with his name

[unkempt yew]

But can he fly despite being young?

[ocean void]

He was named after hissss great-grandfather? I think

Yeah but not well
Flying is like walking 2 to them, but he in particular is awkward

[unkempt yew]

But if I do ask, are there humans settlements or maybe another territory of dragons?

[ocean void]

Hold on wait I made a thing a while ago

[unkempt yew]

[ocean void]

Really old map
He lives in the dark red one, all the ones on the smaller continent (and the island for them) are different types of dragons, the larger continent is humans and these weird elf things I made
I've made too much for this stupid dragon world I need to stop 😭 but it's fun so whatever

[unkempt yew]

At least you got map for OC

[unkempt yew]

So he's on that small continent with two green territories on both sides

[ocean void]

I mean he can be but I meant the one on the right
I should've worded that better sorry

[unkempt yew]

Ah I see

So he's the third sibling of the royal family in the mountain range and in that territory, where he's reading books? 👀

[ocean void]

Yeah! He likes reading
Sorry if my responses are slow I'm in school now lol

[unkempt yew]

Ah, I see

[unkempt yew]

Mayhaps continue the school for a moment

[ocean void]

I'm back, had a test unfortunately

[austere hawk]

Did anyone else see the Okami announcement

I’m cry

[trim tartan]

No, what is it?

[austere hawk]

New sequel

Original director made a new studio for it named after the original studio

18 years later a sequel is finally coming… it will be over two decades by the time it comes out

I’ve been waiting so long

[limpid ore]

o wow

[austere hawk]

It’s one my favorite games

[night lily]

Interesting how lately we have some sequels from games (somewhat) long ago (world of goo2, helldiver 2, dragon dogma2) and now okami

[austere hawk]

Add turok, onimusha from last night

Loooooong dead game franchises

Resurrected from the 2000’s…

Onimusha and Okami are both 2006

[night lily]

What an interesting time indeed
-# now the trend says SS will surely be released next year

[fringe anchor]

titanfall 3 when

[austere hawk]

Okami might be one of the only announcements that could possibly outshine a SS shadow drop for me lmao

ss will come out but I fully expect it to not be announced at a major game showcase. They’ll just drop a trailer on Twitter some random day like a week ahead of release

Anyway now I gotta replay Okami for like the sixth time

[night lily]

Sounds like something they would do yeah

I've never played okami back when it still was on console only, but I do know there's a pc port a while back 👀

[austere hawk]

Okami absolutely holds up

There are a couple things about it that are a little dated (some of the dialogue ) but it doesn’t feel clunky like a lot of old games do

Also one of the best soundtracks of all time man, so good. Zoomin across the map with the flowers streaming out behind ammy while the soundtrack blasts is

I can’t even imagine what a modern Okami would look like, it was already so pretty on ps2… if it looks anything like the teaser I’m gonna cry

https://youtu.be/mSoZgCCxyQc?si=mEgVZyugQH6dbcWM

This brushstroke style without the outlines is absolutely gorgeous… though I do wonder what they could do with outlined style

[night lily]

Oh a change in the artstyle

[austere hawk]

I’m just so happy it exists

[limpid ore]

omg thats so perdy

[austere hawk]

The OG was probably the prettiest game of its time

[iron totem]

Wait, what?

Oh my goodness

[austere hawk]

It’s happeningggg

[swift badge]

Bad news i forgot what flowers i used

This is the wrong misc :(

But its fine

Time to go through my search history

[swift badge]

One done now

Lavender, apple blossoms, ivy, and hyssop

[unkempt yew]

@swift badge

How's the first season?

[swift badge]

Mmmm not done watching it

Was going to today but i have to study for finals

[unkempt yew]

[swift badge]

Bro i feel like things are not gonna turn out well for me

Arcane is scary

Like 10 people died in one episode

[unkempt yew]

[unkempt yew]

You watched 8 episodes ye?

[swift badge]

Yes

I think yeah

Ye

[unkempt yew]

||Saw the lesbian tension between Cait and Vi? 👀||

[swift badge]

Yes

[unkempt yew]

[swift badge]

Wait i think || im at the part where jinx shadow appears behind cait in the bathroom ToT ||

Spoilers for arcane

[unkempt yew]

|| YES||

[meager moat]

There will come a soldier, who carries a mighty a sword

[limber latch]

so spiderful

[meager moat]

Also very cute, I can't wait to see it colored

[swift badge]

He will tear your city down, oh lai oh lei oh lord

[unkempt yew]

He will tear your city down, oh lai oh lei oh lord

[plucky zenith]

Chat recites Omniforge

[limber latch]

...

[swift badge]

what the hell

[plucky zenith]

[unkempt yew]

[limber latch]

I like rotating things (image is placeholder)

oooooh hehehehe I really like what I did

hehehehehehehe (yes I know the light spinning with the porl may look off)
this is still rather simple CSS [you might have known that already] but like... it's beautiful! this is also in a div with a border radius (rounded corners) and stuff but uh

[unkempt yew]

Porl

Scav worthy

[limber latch]

porl is an image not CSS :D
maybe should have also included that
[you (as in reader) might have also known that but just in case]

...

[unkempt yew]

even as a reader, I still don't know CSS

[deft charm]

im learning css

[limber latch]

OMC how's that going?

[deft charm]

pretty well

[limber latch]

(porl spins when hovered over)

[limber latch]

yey!

[deft charm]

no wait i was thinking of c++

i have learned css

[limber latch]

oh! also yey!

[unkempt yew]

[limber latch]

@swift badge look at my porl :D /nf

[unkempt yew]

I think Crispy is asleep

[limber latch]

ah

[trim tartan]

The iron farm doesn't work.

Will call up tech support in the Discord, hoping there's an easy resolution if it isn't something server-side.

Also hoping it's not a problem with the farm itself.

[iron totem]

Noooo

Honestly for complex farms I just rely on litematica

Anyway, I built this enderman farm, it's absolutely ridiculous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn8C8uY3fHM

My poor ears

[limpid ore]

i like the sound it makes

[long sky]

chicken processing day

Is too cold but we must persist

[lime ingot]

Look guys lineless art

I am moving up in orting world

[unkempt yew]

Lineless ort

[trim tartan]

Folks, the WAIFU is officially in business and open to public! Come visit the Grand Stable for some of that sweet iron.