secret-stories-misc

[trim tartan]

Or, make it loop around.

[vestal cedar]

1. The only way we know how to make AI (withought effectivley recreating natural selection) is by giving it a "Fitness Function", basically a number that in the AI's code it wants to see go up at any cost

[fringe anchor]

I am now reminded of "there is something wrong with my test chamber" /lh

[meager moat]

200 testers, going around in their own loop, only stopping to eat and sleep, forever

[vestal cedar]

2. It will be impossible to prevent the AI from modifying itself

[trim tartan]

There’s always loopholes.

[iron totem]

Didn't she get used to it and she's only making tests because she actually cares about testing?

[trim tartan]

The Pebbles solution.

[vestal cedar]

3. AI dont really care about what you meant by that number, as long as that number goes up it thinks the job is done

[meager moat]

If we're using a neural network, it most likely won't be in control of its changes

[trim tartan]

No, actually, she does say that the highs get less and less potent.

[meager moat]

However I suppose the same thing will happen, just the AI would be unwillingly doing so

[vestal cedar]

Conclusion: any sufficiently powerfull Artificial General Intelligence with a Fitness Function will ineviteably go into its code and just set its fitness function to the maximum possible value and then prompty crash, or some equivalent failiure

[trim tartan]

So, AGI commits die?

[vestal cedar]

Its more like, it makes a button directly to its reward center in its hypothetical brain and then just presses it

[trim tartan]

Crashing in the process, which is “dying”.

[vestal cedar]

Well crashing or just staying there doing nothing because it cant make that number go up

its allready set it to the max value

[meager moat]

Perhaps we use a 2nd AI to monitor to 1st

[fringe anchor]

What if it does that as well /lh

[trim tartan]

AI becomes addicted to drugs.

[fringe anchor]

Though those are some interesting points being made here

[fringe anchor]

The greatest drug of all, self-fulfillment

[trim tartan]

Wish I had that one.

[meager moat]

Well we the 2nd AI would only watch the 1st AI and decide how well of a job it did, it wouldn't be getting any more training, something like a ChatGPT

[fringe anchor]

[vestal cedar]

The reasons I have stated (and a few other ethical things) are why I feel like the only way to making true intelligence is through a process more similar to natural selection through self preservation- No hard fitness function, only what is able to survive

[fringe anchor]

Yeah but how would we get the 2nd one without it, too, commiting brain drug

[trim tartan]

The AGI would probably be able to figure out that this thing is hindering it.

Stop it, do drugs.

[meager moat]

It wouldn't work off of the brain drug, it would be a simpler neural network trained before hand

[vestal cedar]

But if its that simple, an AGI can probably work around it

[trim tartan]

The thing is, feed that thing what it wants to hear.

It’ll be ignorant.

[vestal cedar]

Its basically arguing a Human couldent outsmart a LLM

[meager moat]

If the 2nd AI goes offline, set the number to -2,147,483,648

[vestal cedar]

I mean some probably couldent but you get the idea

[vestal cedar]

So keep the AI alive but hack into it and make it see false readings

[meager moat]

How would it do that? Any steps taken to do that would likely not be very high performance by the 2nd AI (AI2)

[vestal cedar]

Or some variation: it would be difficult to keep this kind of thing contained IIRC

[fringe anchor]

But then it could just try to convince the 2nd one to just not do anything or sth

[vestal cedar]

But also, another question: How do you train this neural network

To like

Contain an AGI, which presumeably this is the first AGI that people make

If you train it on Human data and simulations, are you really sure there are no glaring security issues

that ya missed

[meager moat]

Tho, this is a bit confusing, you guys are thinking about an AI confined to a number, but then also have it have free thinking

[trim tartan]

A temporary decrease in joy would mean nothing if it can cause a permanent increase in it.

[meager moat]

I would think a highly complex neural network would be fine.
This would probably work due to the neural network being designed to do a specific thing, I suppose it can be linked to getting this number higher, but then it would never do anything that makes the number go down, any event where it hijacks the other AI would happen on accident

[vestal cedar]

I mean, thats kindof the assumption made by people who want to develop AGI, devellop a goal oriented complex intelligence confined to a few fitness numbers, so that you can tell it what you want it to do (Slavery Yay 😄 )- I'm not the one defining wether or not its possible

Because I kindof think that its not possible

[meager moat]

Well idk if we should get into the idea of can AI have free thinking at this time

[trim tartan]

If we go beyond LLMs, we need to think about it.

[meager moat]

If we make an AI who has a neural network based off of a human or other animal brain, then maybe

[trim tartan]

Maybe not yet, but that’s like saying “Oil hasn’t run out, we don’t need to worry about it”.

And with something that’s an economic gold mine, it’s no so much if, but when.

[fringe anchor]

That could also be a way to make AIs if we get to that, maybe (i'm sure it won't have any questions of morality /j)

[meager moat]

But that's quite a few trillion connections, not something computers today can handle

[vestal cedar]

Or, or, hear me out. We simulate natural selection so that the AI can figure out what the root of meaning, "survival" means in this universe

[meager moat]

We do that all the time. At least on a smaller scale, we make little neural networks play small games we make

[trim tartan]

To be honest, might need some elaboration.

[vestal cedar]

I mean, yes and no

Usually when this is done, there is a fitness function involved

I think any fitness function approach is fundementally flawed, the only "real" fitness function thats going to work is just how well you are able to persevere in this impremanent universe

[trim tartan]

I see. Like us, then?

[vestal cedar]

Yes, this ties in with my philosophy about the world because literally everything is interconnected I cant make a wholistic description of anything withought needing to explain everything else

[trim tartan]

Make variations, see which ones are good, make it stay.

[meager moat]

There was this time some people made a AI to play league of Legends to perfection and it destroyed world league players

[vestal cedar]

Well yeah I am not arguing about the capability of the AI, but its not "general"

[trim tartan]

AGI would be more like a human.

[vestal cedar]

The only way you are going to get something that works in all situations is applying the fundemental axiom of survival, that crucible

[trim tartan]

Not particularly great at any one thing, but perfectly fine at adapting.

[vestal cedar]

To new situations, with unclear goals, molded solely by the forces of nature (or similar enough forces in a simulated setting)

[trim tartan]

Basically, it works for us. It should work for them.

[vestal cedar]

OFC the main issue with this line of thinking is that it either has no practical purpose or we are effectivley enslaving them

[fringe anchor]

Effectively making a new "living being" for the sake of it

[vestal cedar]

RW ancients be like:

[trim tartan]

In other words, while not quite there, we’ve become almost like the Benefactors.

[fringe anchor]

"Let's give that flying thing an extra pair of wings and a fucking sharp beak and laser"

[trim tartan]

And, honestly speaking, I do not want to be on the wrong end of an argument about morality.

[fringe anchor]

Touchy stuff that is

[unkempt yew]

I just got back, what should I draw stroys?

[fringe anchor]

Whatever your heart tells you to

[unkempt yew]

[trim tartan]

Draw another buff wolf person.

[unkempt yew]

It tells me to draw athletic furry oc

[lime ingot]

Ummm uhhh

[unkempt yew]

That's what my heart telling me

[trim tartan]

Speaking of, this would be cruel.

[unkempt yew]

A buff (not bulky, just athletic) female wolf oc

[trim tartan]

Existing with no “purpose” is the worst.

[vestal cedar]

I kindof want to move on from this topic before I start to argue reproduction is unethical (To clarify I am not actually arguing this)

Though very fun conversation

[austere hawk]

If it makes anyone feel better generative AI (the shit everyone’s using rn) isn’t really AI

anyway

[fringe anchor]

I did not think about stuff like the fitness factor before, interesting stuff

[trim tartan]

Well, not intelligent.

It’s false intelligence. Faked.

[fringe anchor]

Plagiarism machine /lh

[austere hawk]

(I skipped most of the convo )

[trim tartan]

All it does is really guess what’s next from a set of data that tells it what’s likely.

[unkempt yew]

I kinda forgor the convo bout

[austere hawk]

Yeah it’s just a very complicated copy/paste function

[fringe anchor]

AI stuff

[unkempt yew]

Ah, I see...

AI sucks ass

-# that's my only words for AI

[trim tartan]

Which is, in a weird way, part of how we function, but I’d like to not go existential today.

[austere hawk]

Eh. Gen AI isn’t capable of innovative thought. Obviously, yes, humans also change behavior based on what they see but we do other shit too

[trim tartan]

We see something work for us, we do that again.

We see it work less well, change it up.

[austere hawk]

using AI as a term for what we’ve been working with lately is disingenuous

It’s a buzzword

I’m sure we’ll make actual ai at some point. This ain’t it

[trim tartan]

They’re termed LLMs.

[vestal cedar]

Well for the text ones

[trim tartan]

If I remember correctly, that’s the right way to address them.

[austere hawk]

Yeah that’s text

[vestal cedar]

The image ones are named different

[trim tartan]

Similar names, I assume?

[austere hawk]

Generative AI is a broader term for the concept of prediction-based algos

[trim tartan]

Not too far from that.

[trim tartan]

But yes, I do agree. This isn’t “it”.

[austere hawk]

If you wanna get pedantic, gen AI is neither artificial (all of its output is just mimicked human or natural output) or intelligent (it doesn’t think, needs human approval to determine what is ‘success’)

Anyway it sucks and we all hate it

[trim tartan]

The media’s generally less interested in providing truth and more so in getting viral.

[austere hawk]

Calling it ai makes it sound cool

[trim tartan]

I don’t think it’s inherently bad, but the applications we use it for are mostly pretty horrid.

[austere hawk]

Agreed

[meager moat]

It learns from data, it's a type of AI

[trim tartan]

No, it takes data and spits it back out.

[austere hawk]

Yes, it is termed AI

but I think calling it AI creates an expectation that is entirely false about what it really is

[meager moat]

Via a neural network, that was trained on data

[austere hawk]

pattern recognition is cool for sure

[iron totem]

True! It has been used to help spot things that would otherwise be very hard for doctors to find.

Deep learning algorithms

[trim tartan]

But that’s not quite intelligence.

[meager moat]

Define intelligence then.

[trim tartan]

I’m not sure how.

To think for yourself. To know that you are.

I’d think that intelligence is being able to think and decide for yourself.

[iron totem]

But what does it mean to think?

And decide for yourself?

[iron totem]

This is a really tricky question.

[trim tartan]

Now we dive into philosophy.

[austere hawk]

It’s a line drawn that doesn’t have a set definition. Is a calculator intelligent? Gen AI? A bug? My dog? This question? /j

[trim tartan]

My personal answers - no, no, no, maybe, no.

[austere hawk]

Pebbles offended

(He is a bug)

[meager moat]

Ah i see, that's our problem, i define intelligence in this context as the ability to learn

[trim tartan]

I mean, he struggles to accept it.

[trim tartan]

Defining learning quickly turns into a mess.

[iron totem]

I'm a functionalist so as long as something can "mimic" intelligence or consciousness, it acts intelligent/conscious basically, then it has intelligence/is conscious.

[trim tartan]

I’m not sure what my stance is called, but I think something has to have “free will” to be conscious.

[meager moat]

And that devolves into another debate

[trim tartan]

If free will even exists, which is another layer of chaos.

If we assume that it is, then that’s my stance.

[austere hawk]

Yep it gets philosophical

[iron totem]

I don't believe in free will either but I act as if free will exists

[trim tartan]

To be frank, not my strongest point, as I can’t prove that it does exist.

[meager moat]

Making something that can be or act like intelligence that may or may not have consciousness usually leads that way

[trim tartan]

But, if it’s any consolation, law enforcement treats things as if they do.

[austere hawk]

For sure

[unkempt yew]

The misc chat turning philosophical?
Dang, I am worst at being philosophical

[trim tartan]

Someone who has never challenged their views on this world would probably not be great at it, but I digress.

[iron totem]

Even if you're "bad" at it, I'd still love to hear your thoughts

[unkempt yew]

I mean, I don't know what my thoughts are

Didn't rely on em

"No thoughts, 'ead 'mpty"

[trim tartan]

I’d say I don’t care if it does or doesn’t.

I’ll treat it as if it does.

To be honest, only way I can stay sane.

[meager moat]

I think I've accepted the idea that time is static, by defining free will as my brain deciding what to do with the information thats given to me.

[trim tartan]

I see free will as something that doesn't really exist, but it also somewhat does?

I don't know. My stance on it is very weird.

[meager moat]

Guess it's our free will to decide what our free will is/j/silly

[unkempt yew]

Welp, I've made a meme in dlc meme gallery

I don't know what to put next for fics

||||

[trim tartan]

Or whatever it is that decides it for us.

I couldn't care less, either way.

[sonic remnant]

Yeah but that's a lonely mouse, I've read that those with other mice around them will begin to self regulate or even stop doing it entirely

I think ai might be a bad term for what we actually have, very few of them actually show any form of being "intelligent", but I won't dive into that hole rn

[trim tartan]

That's established. We all - save for Syl, probably - think it's not a good term.

[trim tartan]

Interesting!

[edgy scroll]

The air’s gotten chill, and the grass is dead. Coffeeshop season settles in like a lingering cough, not fully noticeable until it’s upon you. The bugs are less present, but spiders come out more this time of year. I’m going with a mocha and thinking about buying gifts.

[limpid ore]

ok what i miss

i back from walmart

[edgy scroll]

Malwart

[limpid ore]

the phone muncher gave me $11 for 4 phones

they were old and didnt turn on, but im still sad

i did buy new cheapo phone tho so

[edgy scroll]

Does the phone muncher make the crunching noise that the ticket eater did at Chuck E. Cheese?

[limpid ore]

it spends 5 minutes or so telling me if my little garbage phone is worth a few bucks or not with a robot voice telling me info about phones n environmental shit

[sonic remnant]

Anyone know stories that make the reader feel like the chill of pre winter winds?

I'm going to try and write smth like that, and reference material would be nice

[limpid ore]

i was forced to read the giver in 7th grade but i unno if its the vibe ur lookin for

[sonic remnant]

Lemme look for that

[edgy scroll]

Headless horseman, Cask of Amontillado (or anything by Poe), Frankenstein, and Giver is actually a really good suggestion.

[limpid ore]

its dystopian in the way that ALL choice was removed from EVERYONE in order to make a sort of "paradise"

that much i remember after several years

i think the main character is also a child

[edgy scroll]

The main character is like at the age where he’s just getting into being a teenager, which is another way it sits apart from other dystopian novels, cause it’s also a coming-of-age novel.

[limpid ore]

i only very vividly rember the ending because i read a comic based on it years later in the local library

[fringe anchor]

terminal guy in lethal company sent "all clear" through the signal translator
just as i got my head removed by a blind dog

[iron totem]

You could say your friend's company was quite... lethal.

[limpid ore]

[iron totem]

Lethal company is really fun, great game

[limpid ore]

i like dad jokes

[iron totem]

I'm a hiverunner, not a bee fumbler

It's to bee or not to bee, that's the question.

And the answer is always yes!

[fringe anchor]

3 beehives? 3 teammates? easy math

[iron totem]

Beehives are really easy to collect solo. You trigger them, go in a circular formation and run with the hive. Once your stamina bar is gone, you drop it and keep running. Rinse and repeat

Remember to put them on the side of the ship and grab them once leaving the moon.

[fringe anchor]

our technique was one guy on teleport button, one guy aggors the bees and gets TP'd, one guy grabs the hive

first encounter with sand worm live, was too focused on the dog

[iron totem]

Anynymous?

/j

[fringe anchor]

hey i just don't want to put their usernames out for others to see

[iron totem]

Y'all should check out crosscode, it's so good

[unkempt yew]

Why does 0550 to 0600 hours is so damn cold

[simple mango]

almost ready to ort

heh

[limpid ore]

i have been laughing at my cat for half an hour now

[plucky zenith]

What’re they doing?

[limpid ore]

Nalu likes to play by me standing in a corner, her sneaking up on me, me scaring her, then i run somewhere else to repeat this

im giggling so much

she's so cute and funny

she keeps making this little "mrrp?" noise when she stops in her tracks

[iron sorrel]

Stories misc.

It's been a little while

Nut I'm happy to announce that the GIT GUD ARC IS BACK ON!

Currently trying to beat this piece of shit

Wish me luck

[meager moat]

luck has been wished, sadly I already used my 3 wishes on cat stuff

[edgy scroll]

I don’t think that you’re gonna beat that giant behind the old guy

He looks pretty tough

[iron sorrel]

You mean the windmill???

[meager moat]

i hear you can't even hurt the windmill its so strong

[iron sorrel]

Actually I have a vid of this guy from the "enjoy the game" run

https://youtu.be/UJdam7CEWQ0?si=ze-zMrI_kJD7Hy3R

[edgy scroll]

"It is easy to see," replied Don Quixote, "that thou art not used to this business of adventures; those are giants; and if thou art afraid, away with thee out of this and betake thyself to prayer while I engage them in fierce and unequal combat."

[trim tartan]

Well, @night lily - no wonder you're poor, you seem to almost intentionally miss diamonds when lighting up your caves!

You can't complain about only having 16 diamonds, then not mine some when you're down there lighting up your caves.

[iron totem]

A smart strat is to get 5 diamonds and give a pickaxe fortune 3

That's what I usually do

[trim tartan]

We all have full diamond gear at this point.

[iron totem]

Honestly only 2 diamonds are needed as you can fortune an iron pick

[trim tartan]

And when I say all, I mean all.

[iron totem]

Oh, I see

[trim tartan]

None are needed if you go with villagers.

[iron totem]

I mean, diamonds are kinda useless then?

Other than for armour trims

[trim tartan]

Netherite upgrades?

[iron totem]

Oh, true, I forget about those

[trim tartan]

Armour trims are cool.

Speaking of netherite upgrades, anyone have one?

[iron totem]

Do y'all store your loot in one big storage system or is it individual?

[trim tartan]

Individual, as of now.

Netherite is pretty useless, but I do like the sprites better.

[fringe anchor]

Pretty sure drymm has a bunch but you'd have to ask them and they are asleep rn

[iron totem]

Actually, how do your bases look?

[fringe anchor]

How else will you make a diamond block house /j

[iron totem]

I know piotr has a banger floating iterator

[iron totem]

The ultimate flex...

What about a netherite house?

Eh, netherite doesn't feel as valuable to me as diamonds

[fringe anchor]

That's a generation task /lh

[trim tartan]

Fastest way to get netherite is reportedly bastion raiding.

[fringe anchor]

But it is quite rare, no?

(Speaking of, I have to get started on getting netherite stuff )

[iron totem]

Diamonds are way more iconic

[trim tartan]

I feel like diamonds are valuable.

Netherite is rare, but so is deepslate emerald ore.

[iron totem]

Netherite is only used for netherite armour/tools, the compass block, armour trim i guess

Diamonds are used for more stuff

[trim tartan]

I have one, it doesn't feel that much more valuable than what its rarity has to offer.

[fringe anchor]

Yeah but netherite gives more bang for your buck

[iron totem]

Netherite armour isn't that much better than diamond. It has more knockback resistance I believe and more durability?

[fringe anchor]

I mean, if you wanna minmax

Go right ahead

Also it is immune to lava

[trim tartan]

Yes, I will flex this until the end of all days.

[trim tartan]

I honestly think it's worse.

[iron totem]

Oh, and netherite armour is more likely to receive good enchants than diamond

[trim tartan]

You have to pay and work so much more for a product that's minimally better.

[trim tartan]

Who cares about enchantments when villagers are around?

[iron totem]

But to be fair, by the point you have netherite you already have most enchantments

[iron totem]

That is true, but not everyone bothers with villagers

[trim tartan]

Well, most of us do piggyback off Solaris' work...

[iron totem]

Though, they likely wouldn't bother with netherite either.

My friend who has been playing minecraft for many years didn't start using enchantments until recently

[fringe anchor]

Yeah, if you wanna squeeze a bit more performance, sure

[night lily]

Well tbf I actually spent most of them on storage upgrade ||||

(And that's what i got for using light overlay to see dark spots i guess, i can't see ores )

I spent my 1 (one) netherite upgrade on pickaxe for shenanigans and that's it

I feel like netherite armors are not worth it at the point you gain access to them, diamond armors with full protection = you almost don't take damage from regular mobs anyway, and any kind of armors mean nothing against Wardens

[fringe anchor]

Storage upgrade?

[night lily]

Mods stuff

[iron totem]

Oh, the world is modded?

[night lily]

Server sided only, but yeah

[fringe anchor]

Has a thing or two

[fringe anchor]

What does it do?

[iron totem]

The only mod I play with is sodium, really.

[night lily]

Now it's very unlikely for solaris iron farm to overflow

[iron totem]

Actually, is the create mod fun, piotr?

I remember you said you had been playing with it.

[night lily]

Large quantity storage iirc the capacity now's at 64x1024 iron blocks

[night lily]

Sodium is kinda essential nowadays

[fringe anchor]

Well that was like... 1-2 years ago?

Have been a few updates by now and I mostly played with the above and beyond modpack

Was pretty fun tho, I recall setups for infinite iron, more efficient ore smelting, automation, tree autofarms, that kind of stuff, I enjoyed it though I did not get too far

[fringe anchor]

How does it work?

[iron totem]

Hmm, you can already make this in vanilla, though?

At least in java, bedrock doesn't have tnt duplication.

[fringe anchor]

Yeah but I have just never felt compelled to make mob farms or dupers, idk

Here it was kinda fun

[iron totem]

Ah, I see

Thanks for answering

Now I have an excuse to procrastinate on wroting /j

[fringe anchor]

and also industrial machinery and grabbers and conveyors appeal to the male fantasy /lh

[fringe anchor]

Oh also you had mobile contraptions, slap some shit on a minecart, it moves, could make tunnel-boring machines and stuff

[iron totem]

I know you can make trains

Is the mod laggy?

My laptop isn't very good

[night lily]

Well basically they're drawers

each drawer holds 1 type of item( can be recraft to hold 4 with /4 the capacity) you can manually store items by (hold) right click and pull item by left click(or shift click for whole stack)

They interact with hoppers like chest

There's also 'drawer connector' to link the network (so you can have one input spot then everything goes to their designated drawer)

[fringe anchor]

Oh yeah you have the big trains and you have the mobile contraptions which are either stuff on minecarts or stuff on guiderails/bearings/etc

[night lily]

It's better for you to go see it yourself for a clearer picture tho

[trim tartan]

This is literally sorting made easy.

[fringe anchor]

Not sure, might be, my rig is too strong to be able to tell /lh

[fringe anchor]

Oh I recall sth like that, yeah

[night lily]

Well there are more things you might be interested in it's no Create(since it hasn't updated for 1.21.1 yet ) but there are some stuffs

[trim tartan]

Piotr's casually flexing their setup.

[fringe anchor]

Yeah, that's right, it runs blender well, take that! /lh

Wait, fuck's sake, autocorrect /lh

[fringe anchor]

[iron totem]

Impossible...

[trim tartan]

We have root beer. I'm pretty sure it's broken.

[fringe anchor]

ignore the fact it took me until like 2 days ago to realize i can use my GPU to render shit way faster

[iron totem]

I tried learning blender a while ago but gave up on it

[night lily]

Wait, you had been using integrated GPU for rendering?

[iron totem]

I only have integrated GPU...

I have a silly work laptop

[fringe anchor]

I had been using my poor CPU

[trim tartan]

Mine has 16 gigs of RAM, I'm pretty sure, and a decently strong CPU, but iGPUs suck.

Can't run shaders without Minecraft turning into a slideshow.

[iron totem]

Yeah, mine is not that powerful.

[night lily]

I also have no desktop, only laptop

[iron totem]

It has 8 gigs of RAM, good enough

[fringe anchor]

CPU can work well enough if you don't care about much quality.

Or have like, a bunch of time to spare

[trim tartan]

If I let the thing loose, it can run the game at a really decent 100-something framerate.

[iron totem]

My old laptop was many years old and had 4 gigs

[trim tartan]

But.

The moment I put on shaders, it grinds to a halt.

[fringe anchor]

I could help ya out a bit but i'm by no means a good teacher

[trim tartan]

This is, by the way, with Sodium on a pretty high render distance.

[iron totem]

Hmm, maybe? I'll try the donut tutorial again

Appreciate it

[night lily]

Tbf, Minecraft doesn't actually use much gpu? It's bottlenecked by ram and (only more recently) cpu

[trim tartan]

I just use Blender to render my Minecraft builds.

[iron totem]

I didn't even finish the donut tutorial

[trim tartan]

I said "fuck that" to sculpting and went straight for rendering.

[fringe anchor]

I never did the donut tutorial, I self-taught this shit myself (hence why I have quite a few holes in my knowledge )

[iron totem]

Alright, I'll download blender

I'll get started later today, have some other stuff to do first

[trim tartan]

Case in point.

Made in World Machine, ported into Minecraft, then exported to Blender for rendering.

[iron totem]

Flex I guess, I have the first message in spoiler-genderal: #spoiler-bigenderal message

[trim tartan]

And finally, photo editing software for after effects.

[fringe anchor]

[trim tartan]

WM is surprisingly easy to learn, takes an hour or two to figure out.

[fringe anchor]

[trim tartan]

Blender takes many days to learn.

And then, you're able to make a single thing.

[fringe anchor]

One step at a time

[trim tartan]

Not worth the effort.

For me, it isn't, at least!

[fringe anchor]

Hey, not for everyone

[iron totem]

Same with any thing

You gotta suck at something first to get sorta good at it

[trim tartan]

I mainly use it for rendering because Chunky is hot shit and I'm not touching that with a ten-foot pole.

[fringe anchor]

It took me a bunch of time to ease in to the program by ripping models and shitposting and basic animation, then I learned textures, then actual basic modelling, then texture nodes and edit mode

[trim tartan]

Chunky is only useful for very large-scale rendering.

Specifically Minecraft builds, by the way.

[fringe anchor]

Which renderer, btw? Cycles?

[trim tartan]

Even then, it has limits.

[trim tartan]

Yes.

[fringe anchor]

Also I think blender has post-processing but I have not messed with that

[fringe anchor]

Neato

[trim tartan]

Eevee doesn't work with subsurf.

And Minecraft builds apparently work well with subsurf.

[fringe anchor]

Don't think i've messed with subsurf /lh

I just do cycles cause it's pretty

[trim tartan]

Also, I have so much to look up to. This render specifically is by "heyitsanjello".

It's so pretty!

Look at it. Look at the rays.

[fringe anchor]

Oh damn

Yeah I don't do much in terms of rendering, though I don't do enviroments too much so I guess I don't need it

[trim tartan]

It's not mine. To reiterate, this one's by "heyitsanjello" on Discord.

[fringe anchor]

Yeah I know

[trim tartan]

If it were, I wouldn't be complimenting it.

Also, I use so much debug in my builds nowadays.

I can't build what I make in the server, because no debug stick.

And force-placed blocks.

[iron totem]

Seeing floating grass is cursed

Looks good, though!

[trim tartan]

The idea with this is to take off everything the block labels itself as, and see what it can be used for.

It's not walls and trapdoors, it's a branch.

It's not mud, it's bark.

It's not grass, it's bushy leaves.

It's not glass panes on a wall with tuff and polished basalt mixed into it, it's a wall tainted with wear.

It's not a game, it's an art medium.

[iron totem]

Mushroom stem is a really cool block

[trim tartan]

Pity it's so tedious to farm in survival.

[fringe anchor]

It appears the donut tutorial is, in fact, very comperhensive

time to get started on that dumb essay

[unkempt yew]

Back, found another Papa's game (oh boy, I do love nostalgia)

Also, character growth I think

[lament blade]

Anyway, Anton you still up for that "Lunch on a Skyscraper" idea I suggested a few days ago?

[unkempt yew]

Mayhaps

I will try to draw scavs them sitting on a bar

[lament blade]

A night at the bar in Garbage Wastes...sure I'd like to see that

[unkempt yew]

Then two then

Cap, pick your scavs and I'll try to imagine it

[lament blade]

I've got three Scavenger characters, though the third is going to be in my third chapter of Saints

Wait...forgot about the other Matilda, Matilda Swingwire

...

[unkempt yew]

Hm...

[lament blade]

Either her or Chea. Sorry Jack, you're chill friend to the Ackerson's but you don't exactly stand out outside of laughing at the antics of everyone else around you

[unkempt yew]

Skyscraper it is then

[unkempt yew]

[lament blade]

As for the Slugcat, still offering up the Demolitionist "Three"

[unkempt yew]

I'll draw Jack to honor his tiny propeller hat and his lollipop

[lament blade]

That was someone else. Jack is the one with the accordian playing music with Charlie

[unkempt yew]

I am tired after that seminar

Oh well, I secured my Finals exam, extra 5 points in my current exam and free lunch

[lament blade]

Yay

[trim tartan]

Has anyone here heard of The Blockheads?

[lament blade]

If I go with Three, how should I kit him out? I'm planning to hop into the Rimworld character editor to do a fast reference job so either he's going to have some basic equipment or he's going to be the super soldier he is

[lament blade]

Uh...I know the OST track "Stoneheads"

[unkempt yew]

I kinda forgot about that

[trim tartan]

It’s not Rain World.

Ancient mobile game.

[lament blade]

Unless we're talking Lucy in Peanuts yelling at Charlie Brown (not Charlie Ackerson obiviously)

[trim tartan]

Might as well be crumbling into dust.

It’s surprisingly still fun!

[unkempt yew]

Hmm

There were so many ancient mobile games were good but I kinda forgot some of em

[trim tartan]

And… very brutal.

[unkempt yew]

Hmmmm

Lemme research it

[trim tartan]

Well, expert mode is, at least!

And I’m pretty sure it’s now exclusively on iOS.

[unkempt yew]

Huh, I've seen it before but haven't played it

[storm raptor]

Oh look, a few Kiwis!

-# /ref

[iron totem]

Noooooo

Not my kiwis

[winged coral]

i needa ask here cause yall would probably know

what is the name of the entire are that contains moon and pebbles specifically

not just facility grounds

[iron totem]

The area?

[austere hawk]

I don’t think pebbles/moons facility has a specific name

[winged coral]

yeh

[iron totem]

It doesn't really have a name

[winged coral]

damn

[iron totem]

Local facility grounds

[winged coral]

i need one for a doc im making

[austere hawk]

Make one up :3

[iron totem]

Yes!

[winged coral]

ok :c

[iron totem]

Welcome to stories by the way, hope you enjoy your stay! If you need any writing advice or fic recommendations feel free to ask!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/313719911404929035/1261868761393397810/HELP.gif

This is the misc chat so anything off-topic goes here

[winged coral]

this is what i came up with

not very creative

but it works

[unkempt yew]

The terrifying works of the Stories-Discussion

[iron totem]

Location names tend to not be very creative

[austere hawk]

Yeah that works well enough

[unkempt yew]

Seems fine

[storm raptor]

Any Inv stories?

[simple mango]

there's cy's space captain fic, it's also in the forums

just scroll down and you'll find it eventually

[storm raptor]

Noted, I hope the stories channel takes more inspiration from Inv

solely to piss off Raven :D
-# /silly

[limpid ore]

new story visiter?

you know what that means

[limpid ore]

obligitory dumpter blast

[plucky zenith]

Dumpter

(Obligatory dumpter worship)

[unkempt yew]

But what about Smelvin?

[unkempt yew]

[simple mango]

hi stories misc

[iron totem]

Space captain inv is one, inv is also a character in finding survivor.

I haven't read many inv fics when i think about it.

[unkempt yew]

Hola

[iron totem]

Damn, it's late...

I'm sorry sleep police

I'll go to bed...

[unkempt yew]

👉 🛏️

[iron totem]

I have to wake up in 5 hours

[unkempt yew]

molecules slowly dissipating

[limpid ore]

🫵🛏️

[open matrix]

im just gonna say that its almost five am for me, good night

[night lily]

👉🛏️

[versed cedar]

Just learned this thread exists 👀

[plucky zenith]

[boreal stone]

hello all, I have been told to talk about stories here because I need to ramble about a story that is not rw related

[boreal stone]

technically not need, but my brain cannot function without rambling about something that I like for 5 minutes. this time, a story that im writing.

[trim tartan]

Go on. I’m also like that.

[boreal stone]

brace for giant paragraph

[trim tartan]

We will.

[plucky zenith]

Theyre still going

[boreal stone]

So I'm writing this story about a zombie apocolypse, where it's kinda based of the Last of Us, but instead of a teenager and an old man running around in an apocolypse it's two old men and a tiny baby. The two old men are gay because I said so. Basically the concept is that this weird fungi have taken over the world, starting in a Russian lab. It eventually spreads like all over, and the two guys who I've been talking about are supposedly "best friends" at the start of the story. Rick, old man 1, and Hitch, old man 2. Rick and Hitch have known each other like almost their entire life, but both have wives who they assume they both love. Rick has three kids, 19, 11, and 9 months. Hitch has none. SO apocolypse starts and Rick and Hitch like suffer a lot of truama because wives die and so do kids 19 and 11, and it ends up with them traveling the world in an apocolypse with a baby learning that they're actually gay and never realized.

[trim tartan]

Gay love stories are nice.

I’ve got a plan for a gay wild west story.

[boreal stone]

But also I'm aroace so figuring out how to write some of this stuff is gonna be hard but for the most part I think I can do it.

(zero romantic or other attraction at all from me, for context)

[trim tartan]

It won’t be kicked into action until I’m done with my Unraveling—check it out—so, not for a long while, but I like the idea.

[plucky zenith]

I think just reading some romance literature would be enough to give you that perspective

[versed cedar]

I fucking love tlou

[trim tartan]

Also, read The Song of Achilles.

[plucky zenith]

Don’t worry, there’s only a million romance books to choose from

[boreal stone]

I have read plenty, and am rewatching Heartstopper just for this occasion

[trim tartan]

TSoA is apparently one of the best gay love stories.

[versed cedar]

Also dw even people who do feel romantic attraction have trouble writing it ime

Writing convincing relationships in general is just kind of tricky

[trim tartan]

Also, I love this little excerpt from the original Iliad, translated into English.

[boreal stone]

Oh yeah, the baby's name is Bubs because they had the child right as the apocolypse started so the baby never got to be named so of course the two old men named the baby that

[trim tartan]

Spoilers for the Iliad.

|| Achilles, mourning the death of Patroclus: "How often you yourself, my most unhappy and beloved companion, have set a delicious meal before me in this hut, with speed and skill, when the Greeks were set to bring war with all its tears on the horse-taming Trojans. As it is, you lie mangled here, and my heart rejects all thought of food. Not that I lack it. I lack you."||

The greeks knew their shit.

[boreal stone]

why is romance so like... cool but I don't want it. It like brings out the best poetic stuff

[boreal stone]

my stories would be much more sad

(which is something I want)

[trim tartan]

Tragedy is always nice.

[versed cedar]

Romance I think gives room for that longing for a closer connection to people
Cause its not "normal" to be extremely, extremely close to people who aren't either related to you or dating/married to you

Like yeah you can be extremely close friends but romance just allows it to go a step further

Queer platonic relationships can also kind of scratch that itch I think

Plus sometimes it's just nice to see people in love
It's sweet

[plucky zenith]

Satisfies a very primal part of the human mind

[trim tartan]

It hits like a truck.

[night lily]

It's very niche but I do love stories with the concept of a close relationship with blurred line between platonic and romantic

[trim tartan]

If that truck were made of milk chocolate and driving at a hundred miles an hour.

[trim tartan]

Oh, yes, those are great.

[versed cedar]

I like those too

[meager moat]

I am proud to announce that I am no longer baby mode

[unkempt yew]

Forgor art

-# maybe I'll consider that one comment in my cotl oneshot

[iron totem]

Gourmand is balanced

Aka how to kill a red centi with only your body

[unkempt yew]

finally, something I can do to justify my hate towards red centipedes

[fringe anchor]

OH MY GOD

AMAZING

[pure rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1133080825135644682.gif?size=48&name=slugheadnod&quality=lossless

[iron totem]

Gourmand too powerful...

[pure rune]

What did you expect from someone who has consumed the entire universe and is able to create life and nuclear bombs out of shit and sticks?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958418404769943572/1269433764409249887/got_ur_nose.gif

[iron totem]

Did you know gourmand can max deal 20 damage by falling?

They can also "maul"

[pure rune]

Just 20? Lame

[pure rune]

Wait what? Like Artificer?

[iron totem]

Like so

You slide then spam jump, it's a bit finicky

[fringe anchor]

headbutting

[iron totem]

Here's me using it to kill a red centi with only my body

[pure rune]

So basically you sit on their face until they die? Epic

[iron totem]

More slamming yourself into them until they die.

[pure rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179973896976474142/1244876394907963434/oooh_nooo_gug_noooo.gif

[simple mango]

hi stories misc 1

[unkempt yew]

I cannot get past door 40

[simple mango]

man you suck at pressure huh

what did you die to this time

[unkempt yew]

too slow to move for closet

[iron totem]

This puzzle hurts my brain

Crosscode

[unkempt yew]

[iron totem]

This whole dungeon hurt my brain, ||it has balls that go through walls in weird ways and can teleport you and stuff.||

[unkempt yew]

I gave up on puzzles

except the papa's puzzle games after the day

we cookin for that 100%

[fringe anchor]

clouds

[austere hawk]

I caved and got the game since it’s really short. Gonna play tonight maybe

[iron totem]

:O

By the way, I finished gris!

[austere hawk]

How was it

[iron totem]

Great

[austere hawk]

If I like Neva like I’m sure I will I’ll have to check it out

[spiral matrix]

what do yall think here? Yay or nay on building around this location?

[scenic escarp]

Yes

[spiral matrix]

Let's hope I can get a weather reflector in time then :')

[boreal stone]

I have arrived back to stories misc after a long journey of trying to figure out how to write this stupid story

[fringe anchor]

Hello

[boreal stone]

I'm at the part of the story where the apocolypse first starts, and I have no clue how to write the families deaths without it being like unrealistic or way too detailed

like "hm yes they died to zombies and now they are zombies" or like fully written out gore which I don't exactly want to do either of them

[fringe anchor]

Maybe just try both and see how it goes? Or mix both? Have it start with some details but then jumpcut or sth?

[boreal stone]

yeah, I'm probably gonna do that, it's just kinda hard to do

[fringe anchor]

You can get there

And you can always ask for help

Anyways i'm off to , cya

[simple mango]

y o u h a v e u n o

[austere hawk]

talking about a scug generator made me wanna try and get my lil dragon test generator working again. Behold:
https://arhamilton92.github.io/colorplay/

it's just a tiny thing but I think it's cute

you can rightclick > copy the lil dragons if you wanna share

[spiral matrix]

that's actually really cool

you could convert this to slugcats :o

ooohhh

[austere hawk]

yeah easily

I have one I made for the webgame I never finished that does non-pixel art too

[spiral matrix]

how did you make it apply the textures seamlessly?

[austere hawk]

it's html canvas

[spiral matrix]

Oooo

[austere hawk]

it's a bunch of images that are recolored and then laid over the top

[limpid ore]

[scenic escarp]

These are so slugcar-able

[austere hawk]

you can kinda see the layers being applied cause I don't have it wait

[scenic escarp]

May become part of Stratos' flock of scuggo

[spiral matrix]

I really like it though, it's cute!

[austere hawk]

and then I have a set list of palette codes (hand-picked colors sets so the shading looks nicce)

[scenic escarp]

-# Banan did you see the scug cookies

[austere hawk]

NO

[simple mango]

imagine every one of our scug ocs were made by stratos and thus everything is connected to acts in some way /j

[scenic escarp]

#1268412914671423538 message

[spiral matrix]

wait

we have two miscs now???

so which ones the primary one then

(those are really delicious looking cookies tho)

On an unrelated note, I'm hungry now

[scenic escarp]

Thread misc is from the olden days of threads

Both are good though

[simple mango]

thread is more used tho

i think

[limpid ore]

[spiral matrix]

What's even the difference between forum and thread

[simple mango]

nothing

literally nothing

unless you mean the mechanic

of forums and threads

but stories misc 1 and 2? nothing

[spiral matrix]

I mean mechanic wise yea

Discord adds so many useless "features" I never keep track

[knotty sierra]

I think threads are for long running existing conversations.
Forums are... well... forums. Topic. Discuss topic. That sorta thing.

[unkempt yew]

wroters, what should I draw?

-# I forgor everyone is asleep

[lime ingot]

Draw ummm uhhh

Gorbo

[edgy scroll]

Paincat?

[lime ingot]

Gorbo is such a silly name for Inv

More people should use it

[edgy scroll]

Real

[unkempt yew]

I fell asleep

His shouldn't be happening

[lime ingot]

Anton how much sleep did you get last night?

[trim tartan]

Quick question.

[lime ingot]

Uhhhh hamborger

[trim tartan]

So, uh, Epochs?

What happened to the nether farm?

Why can't I take things out of it now?

Is this capitalism in action?

[night lily]

huh? cant you left click to pull stuff from drawers?

also still under renovation

[unkempt yew]

I uh... Idk...

I shouldn't been asleep

I drank coffee this morning

How

I kinda forgor when did I sleep last night then I woke up just to sleep again

[unkempt yew]

Imma say 🍣

[trim tartan]

They’re locked.

[unkempt yew]

Chest can be locked? 👀

[night lily]

If there's no number = empty, the lock is just for locking item type iirc

[fringe anchor]

I think i'd say hamburger too

[night lily]

I'd say sushi but the top is beef patty

[trim tartan]

As in?

[night lily]

Idk, you'd fit either archetypes' criteria (hamburger)

[trim tartan]

So, according to you, I'm popular, have three brain cells, am always polite, is a low-maintenance person, is also somehow trendy and always on the phone, is intimidating, and looks good?

[night lily]

Not all of them, but kinda i guess

[unkempt yew]

I picked sushi 🍣

Epochs, I don't think I can sleep anymore

I just slept three hours this afternoon

[night lily]

[unkempt yew]

[lime ingot]

What if you force yourself to sleep

[simple mango]

how would he even do that

like

take melatonin gummies or smth?

[fringe anchor]

Intimidating does fit you sometimes /j /lh

[trim tartan]

Perhaps it does, then.

[lime ingot]

Remove all thoughts and focus on your breathing and heartbeat

[unkempt yew]

I'm not the guy who force himself to sleep

But rather, overeating due to stress and (in occasions such as family gathering) maybe soju or whiskey

[unkempt yew]

And for thoughts, I'm an imaginative 20 year old dude

I could make a scene by listening to either sad, jolly, unsettling or epic music

[sonic remnant]

I'm going to give one of my characters more trauma, will update with the results

[unkempt yew]

Giving trauma to OC? 👀

[iron totem]

Hi stories, I spread some more propaganda

I also downloaded blender

[unkempt yew]

disappeared like in discussions

[iron totem]

Time to ort but in 3D

[trim tartan]

Also, the one who filed in the suggestion for an off-topic story library?

[iron totem]

Have you suggested it?

[trim tartan]

You thought it was some other random person, but it was me, DIO!

[iron totem]

Oh nooo

[trim tartan]

Yes, I was the one to suggest it.

[iron totem]

Nice

[trim tartan]

Listen, art channels get the golden child treatment.

[unkempt yew]

Psst, Celestium 👀

[trim tartan]

Yes?

[meager moat]

We still got more channels than them (if you count posts and threads)

[iron totem]

By the way, I like your cotl art

[unkempt yew]

I'm practicing and must improve

[iron totem]

That's the spirit!

[fringe anchor]

Please maintain safe distance from your device of choice during your first startup /j /lh

[iron totem]

I'll spam you with questions now /j /silly

Time to do the donut tutorial

[fringe anchor]

Go ahead, just know that the answers are likely to not be the most efficient /lh

[trim tartan]

My way of changing subsurf was to do it manually.

[fringe anchor]

and I may have never used sculpting mode among a few things so I can't help you there

[trim tartan]

It took me 30 minutes to do it. Every. Single. Time.

[fringe anchor]

Like, changing the subsurface texture of sth?

[trim tartan]

Yes.

The worst part is that there was code to automate it. I had to look for it.

[fringe anchor]

Ctrl + L, link materials, i suppose

[iron totem]

Okay, enough procrastination, bye! Hit me with a broom or something if I come back

[fringe anchor]

Wait why did i see a message disappear

[fringe anchor]

Good luck

[austere hawk]

New recruits soon?

[trim tartan]

Maybe.

I don't know for sure.

[austere hawk]

Good art

[unkempt yew]

I must learn shading, shadowing, maybe how to do veils and everything in art

I must follow how my sis can do such stuffs

[austere hawk]

The road is long but worth it

I still need to learn to do BGs after all this time lmao

[unkempt yew]

-# speaking of experience, I think that's true as how I see every artist with a decade of experience

[versed cedar]

I'm nearing a decade I think

[meager moat]

You can ask me questions as well, though I mostly know stuff about the main editing viewport, not much about the shading, UV, and all that other stuff in those random tabs on the top of the screen

[unkempt yew]

[meager moat]

(Also, side note. You may or may not CPU lock your computer from adding too many vertices, to test, press the caps lock button and see if the light flashes on or off, if it doesn't, you'll have to shut down the computer via physical buttons or unplugging it, but please try the buttons before unplug the power)

[versed cedar]

Nvm not nearing a decade ive got a few years

[unkempt yew]

[limpid ore]

coffee bean harvests

[unkempt yew]

I'LL TAKE YOUR WHOLE STOCK 🫱 💵

[wind bloom]

Me turning all them into coffee

[unkempt yew]

Dude, anyone they remind you of?

[austere hawk]

Ooo you’re getting really good at drawing scugs, especially the legs

[unkempt yew]

-# for rw crossover

[sonic remnant]

Emphasis on the "more"

[unkempt yew]

[sonic remnant]

Damn that looks good

[unkempt yew]

Scug version of the Kindred

-# for future crossover

[sonic remnant]

[sonic remnant]

Crossovers, yum

[unkempt yew]

Give em more trauma, I say. For... Character Development™

[sonic remnant]

I shall also elaborate more on the existing trauma for a different character

[unkempt yew]

-# Evil Anton strikes again

[sonic remnant]

casually updates username

[wind bloom]

Evil scuglat

[sonic remnant]

I am accepting one suggestion for trauma additions, got an idea?

(context: dragon, last of their species, named phosphorus, and is capable of manipulating/creating energy freely, though they mostly just use yellow lightning(because ghidorah looks sick))

[unkempt yew]

Hmmm

What trauma you have wrought upon this majestic beast?

[knotty sierra]

• Age of Fire (books 1 to 3) (Dragon protagonists)
• Summer King Chronicles (Primarily gryphon POV)
• The Dragons of Solunas (Dragon xenofiction. Incredibly dark.)
• The Remembered War (Dragon POV. Worldbuilding gets wacky in later books)
• Dragon Prayers (Dragon POV. Extremely dark)
• Wings of War (Humanoid dragon POV/Human POV)

[austere hawk]

Thank you

I’ll take a look at these

[unkempt yew]

Waz zat?

[knotty sierra]

Books

[sonic remnant]

What are these?

Or well, what's the reason of them being here?

Oh right

[sonic remnant]

What about Wings of Fire?

There's a lot of it, easy to read(imo), and it's dragon pov

[knotty sierra]

WoF is great!
-# I'm just one of the Winter fans that got mad about DoD.

[sonic remnant]

(Except for the dragonslayer legends book, that goes by human pov, but it isn't fully necessary for the rest of the story, tho it is useful)

[sonic remnant]

Lol

[knotty sierra]

I can't speak on Arc 3. I think I stopped on the IceWing one.

[sonic remnant]

Why do people love abusive characters in entertainment medias

[sonic remnant]

Ah, imo, arc 3 kinda flopped, 15 was my favorite of them

[knotty sierra]

Winter has a ton of capacity for growth. Tying him to a love triangle was one of the worst things that could happen to him.
I mean, a trauma-ridden child soldier? Cool! And by book 7 (right?), his arc was going interesting places.

Then book 10 happened.

[sonic remnant]

Dorkstork probably ruined him

Animus magic ruins pretty much anything it comes into contact with

I mean, I wouldn't turn down getting Animus magic(assuming there's not some catch or extra spell cast to alter my mind), but it really requires one to have very specific traits to be used correctly

Intelligence makes it stronger, but that has to be balanced by not being greedy or corruptible, which dorkstork was both of(mostly because of his environment, but not a lot could change what he would become)

Also imma stop ranting

Oh my god

I just had an amazing idea

[knotty sierra]

The biggest thing an animus would need is self control and foresight. Most animus dragons that caused issues in the series didn't have those two things.

[sonic remnant]

One of my ocs is the last of their kind, and their entire planet is destroyed. I already planned to give them trauma, but talking about this and winter, gave me ideas for trauma to give them

[limpid ore]

i hear animus and see assassin's creed in my brain

[iron totem]

I did some blendering, is fun

So much to learn, though.

[limpid ore]

yibbee

[iron totem]

I'm making donut

[limpid ore]

[meager moat]

Not on my watch

[iron totem]

I want to make an escort model, think that would be rad

Need more skill first, though

[meager moat]

It took me a couple of years of off and on casual learning to get the skills to make a slugcat, but I've seen dedicated people get that far in a month or less

[sonic remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-really-think-you-can-stop-me-nolan-grayson-omni-man-invincible-you-cant-stop-me-gif-21376184

[meager moat]

The more trauma you give them, the more therapy I'll give them

[iron totem]

I see. I think I should practice daily, make it a habit

I can allocate some time early in the day.

[meager moat]

Speaking of, I just tired out building out a character model by hand using e and f, took a while but ended up with a pretty high quality model

[sonic remnant]

You'll need an army beyond human capacity

[meager moat]

I'll do it all myself

[sonic remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[meager moat]

(Tho I did make a mesh before hand using the remesh modifier and used that as a 3d reference)

[meager moat]

https://tenor.com/view/power-hayden-christensen-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-annakin-skywalker-gif-5266504

[iron totem]

Thank you by the way, appreciate it

[iron totem]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1089326594541224006/1122698601995440139/IMG_8209.gif

[sonic remnant]

Oh really?

https://tenor.com/view/dont-try-it-obi-wan-kenobi-gif-10553747

(Couldn't find the cutting in half as a gif)

[meager moat]

That centi is insane, it was tranquilized as well as move through walls

[meager moat]

(It's a good buildup gif)

[meager moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867638200461033483/1273083514975162408/image0.gif

Watch me

[sonic remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-look-what-they-need-to-mimic-a-fraction-of-our-power-gif-25672186

[meager moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1065385117398347837/1199824395795972246/petpet-2.gif

me untrmamaizing your ocs

[sonic remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-gif-25749073

[limpid ore]

[sonic remnant]

Phosphorus is going to be radioactive from their power, and it's gonna be smth they can't control

[iron totem]

Gives your ocs a happy life

[sonic remnant]

Their parents gonna give them trauma, their friends getting cancer from them will give trauma, and then their parents will anger them causing a breakdown that causes phosphorus to accidentally destroy their entire planet and species

[sonic remnant]

I'm going to give trauma to another character for everytime someone says smth about the reverse, that's already... lemme count

[fringe anchor]

Can't help ya there, only did itties so far

[fringe anchor]

How's it going, btw?

[meager moat]

I will cure the friends cancer, calm down their parents, then give all of them therapy and counseling

[iron totem]

Pretty good. I have a bunch of notes on some short cuts

[sonic remnant]

Not when they're long dead

[iron totem]

I've made wobbly donut and given it some glazing

[meager moat]

You guys made notes, I looked in the bottom left (not all of them are there)

[meager moat]

I bring them back using the power of fanfiction

[sonic remnant]

[fringe anchor]

Neato

[fringe anchor]

You looked in the bottom left, I keyboard mashed

[meager moat]

If I do that, I have to press ctrl z like 5000 times after I found the right key

[fringe anchor]

oh i just did that when i was learning the shortcuts

[limpid ore]

@fringe anchor you have been selected for random art gift. sacrifice one of ur characters.

[fringe anchor]

/lh

Uhhhhh

Take waves

[limpid ore]

[fringe anchor]

https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1274031288969330801 here's the forum if you need, pinned somewhere

[limpid ore]

👍

[sonic remnant]

That's a thing???

[limpid ore]

i like randomly arting for people

[sonic remnant]

Cool

Once I get good enough, I'll try and do that too

[limpid ore]

[open matrix]

that sounds fun

me wanna join

[limpid ore]

want free art? sacrifice ur characters to me

[iron totem]

Someone drew my oc skibidi slugcar

So now I'm skibidi fish

[limpid ore]

[open matrix]

time to sleep

no comment

night

[fringe anchor]

Good idea, leave before this escalates, goodnight

[iron totem]

By humangorilla

[limpid ore]

[iron totem]

Goodnight! I should eep as well

[fringe anchor]

Don't click, cognitohazard /j /lh

[fringe anchor]

Goodnight to you too, i'm off as well

[sonic remnant]

Hehe

[sonic remnant]

I would sacrifice them, but I don't have any good drawin- wait I do, but none of them are scugs...

[limpid ore]

[simple mango]

you sure?

[limpid ore]

[simple mango]

then i sacrifice all of my ocs /j

[sonic remnant]

I do have a humanoid, but I didn't know what kinda clothes would fit him, so I just did a cheap shredded ends pair of shorts, he is a monk/celebate, so maybe it actually fits?

[simple mango]

(dont draw dusk or scraps they're fine as is)

(i do need ort of cobble, flare, and blue slugpup i havent named tho)

[unkempt yew]

"What do stories have in common, dear Wolf?"

"They end..."

[scenic escarp]

Not if I don't finish it

[trim tartan]

An ending in its own way.

Tell me, would a med student’s story not conclude if they died before becoming a doctor?

[scenic escarp]

If they donate their body to science then they can continue their story

[plucky zenith]

now that's philosophical

[unkempt yew]

Hmm

[trim tartan]

Would cancer cells in a culture be a “person” living on beyond death?

[edgy scroll]

no

at least, that's my thought on the matter

[trim tartan]

Somewhat my point.

[plucky zenith]

it's like that one dog whose cancer became a spreading disease in other dogs

[edgy scroll]

but, I think the more important thing to recall, is that real life =/= narratives

[trim tartan]

I did not need to know this, but I do now, and it’s cursed.

[night lily]

It also depends on how you define what's their 'story'

[edgy scroll]

a narrative is by nature contained, life, by nature, is not!

[unkempt yew]

[trim tartan]

The idea is, the story lives on, but they do not.

[plucky zenith]

And narrative need to make sense, plus (ideally) be interesting. Life is not bound by those restraints

[night lily]

Taking your example, there was a news (not recently thankfully) about a med student died because of the stress and other things. That led to a big change in med school education and care so it wouldn't happen again

That could be their 'story'

[trim tartan]

All regulations are written in blood.

[trim tartan]

Also, ouch.

[plucky zenith]

that sounds unsanitary

[trim tartan]

The moment someone dies from it, the new rules will be written with proper paint.

The blood of the deceased is cheaper than paint.

Remember. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

[night lily]

Well, to paint that in a better light, I'd say it's learning from mistakes

[edgy scroll]

I was gonna say something, but I forgot what it was

[limpid ore]

blood is worth less than printer ink

[edgy scroll]

weight-for-weight I think molten gold might cost less than printer ink, actually

[austere hawk]

Please don’t give them ideas

[sonic remnant]

Imagine that happens with human cancer

[knotty sierra]

No, actually, I don't think I will.

[unkempt yew]

Do not give the biology some ideas

[limpid ore]

next update to humans: plague inc access

[unkempt yew]

Guys, I do see the plague sign above the skies

It's a big circle thing /j

[sonic remnant]

Hehe

[plucky zenith]

The Rot (real)

[sonic remnant]

Nah that's with the world

[fringe anchor]

/lh

[slate crypt]

¤Ya copy pasted that from me- Joke.¤

¤Also Celestisune Miku.¤

[trim tartan]

I have merged with the Miku.

[trim tartan]

Anyone up for proofreading a non-RW bit?

[unkempt yew]

✋

I'll try proofreading

[trim tartan]

Hold on.

[sonic remnant]

No rw?

[sonic remnant]

Interesting, if more context given, might want to proofread it

[trim tartan]

Little excerpt from a gay wild west story.

[sonic remnant]

Is there draegon?

[trim tartan]

Unfortunately, no creatures from myth. Not yet, as far as this bit is concerned.

[sonic remnant]

Awh...

If there be dragons, there be me

[unkempt yew]

I'll either need a dragon slayer or a bard

[sonic remnant]

DONT (S)LAY THE DRAGONS!! /lh

[unkempt yew]

What's fate worse than death?

Having yourself killed by a dragon slayer or being successfully wooed by a bard?

[sonic remnant]

The dragon slayer existing(for me at least)

Because- because then that means somebody doesn't like dragons...

[unkempt yew]

A sad reality in the fantasy world

[ashen leaf]

a 3d model?! Woh!

[iron totem]

I'm not skilled enough yet but it is definitely on my bucket list!

If that's okay with you

[ashen leaf]

of course!

[iron totem]

I started learning blender yesterday, gotta finish the donut first

Can't get too ahead of myself

[versed cedar]

Snippet I made a little while ago w 3 of my characters
Left side is Rhiannon, right side is Falon/Ego
(I intend to change Ego's name later in the story he has sort of a character development)

I didn't want to give a ton of context so
Yea

[simple mango]

gasp IS THAT THE GRIM REAPER?!

[versed cedar]

Huh

[simple mango]

you heard me

is that the grim reaper

[limpid ore]

i understand this reference

[unkempt yew]

Is it from the Sims clip? 👀

[limpid ore]

is that where its from???

ive only seen the persona 3 version

[unkempt yew]

Well I kinda see the dude was flabbergasted when he saw the grim reaper was having a sauna

[limpid ore]

i havent had the patience yet to watch my sims die bc i keep making new saves

i did cheat the sad buff off of one when i was told her dad passed away while she was at my sim's wedding

[unkempt yew]

[limpid ore]

imagine ur bride walks up to the archway sobbing bc she was told her dad died and then a god zapped the sad right out of her brain

[unkempt yew]

If you put it that way, it kinda scary

[limpid ore]

sims players are psychos

me included

i deleted a baby after it kept clipping through the stairs

[unkempt yew]

You did what??

[limpid ore]

i deleted a baby

it kept falling through the stairs and getting stuck

[unkempt yew]

[limpid ore]

[boreal stone]

someone help me write this part of the story

So basically it's getting to the point where the old men (Rick and Hitch for those who have not read my past messages) are like learning that they're falling in love but idk whether to make one of them say it in a moment of panic (playing into the zombie apocalypse) or like a sweet, calm moment when they're taking a break from fighting the zombies

I think it would make sense for Rick to confess in a panicked state since he's more like jittery and blurts out stuff, while Hitch is more like calm, so it would make sense for him to confess when it's like a state of calm SO depending on which scene I do, it would also change who is the person who confesses, I'd think

[austere hawk]

Confess in heat of the moment, talk about it later (calm moment)

[unkempt yew]

For my opinion (please with others for confirmation), I'd pick that either of them panic during the fight and one of them blurted out their love confession and all

Then after surviving the horde, it was awkward for a moment before they manage to talk about it

[unkempt yew]

Hive mind moments

[austere hawk]

We think the same

[unkempt yew]

And also, psst, @limpid ore

-# maybe putting it into ibis and work on it