Risk of Rain World

[solemn fossil]

Curious does his dash slow (or stop) if Railgunner puts her slow field on him? I honestly haven't played much so i never tested this

Though i suppose that wouldn't help if you don't know when the dash is coming

[wanton tusk]

...oh my fucking god this might be a cryo mines w -Eliza

Yeah every slow reduces fs's dash distance which helps with mobile turret engi and makes void fiend even more of a cakewalk -Eliza

Which means with cryo mines railgunner might actually be
At least doable without TOO MUCH pillar cheese??? -Eliza

Idk I need to test when I get home -Eliza

[warm marsh]

glub

[inner gull]

suppressive fire is bad again, skills not being able to crit/scale damage with level got fixed and chefs primary has a 1.0 proc coef now, sanctuary can spawn lunar pods and halcyon shrines

[elfin zinc]

buff suppressive fire

[wanton tusk]

Also, according to my rorcordian friends and the wiki.gg page, Chef's boosted primary now has a proc co of 2.25??? For EACH of the 16 cleavers????
Actually competing with fs's old 3.0 proc co -Eliza

[inner gull]

theres also currently a bug where if you do the yes chef boosted ice secondary you can do one of the other ones after too

[inner gull]

hypothetical scenario strongest build if there was only one item of each rarity in the lootpool (lunar equipments are separate from the lunar rarity, void items count as the base item rarity, and you would start with one of each)

[wanton tusk]

i'm thinking commando/cap/double nail mul-t with sticky, ATG, runic lens, cherf, shaped glass/transcendence, and crowdfunder/opus -Eliza

if we're not abusing proc chains tho then FMP build with gas, willowisp, ceremonial, and probably still cherf and glass/trans -Eliza

[inner gull]

the issue with with this is no damage scaling or multiplication

i think it has to be fmp + chronic expansion alongside wisp or ceremonial dagger with soulbound catalyst or fuel cell

[wanton tusk]

that would actually work way better yea
alternatively gas + ignition tanks? cagger would fall off tho -Eliza

so in that case soulbound yeah, forgot about soulbound 😭 -Eliza

[inner gull]

off the top of my head probably chronic expansion, wisp, soulbound, charged perf, transcendence, fmp

its also character neutral on who it works on

[wanton tusk]

mithrix p4 if it was cool -Eliza

[gusty mulch]

winning

winning harder

[neat helm]

I love ror

[solemn fossil]

Woah this thread exists

[neat helm]

The gameplay in an hour goes from calm little shooter to OH MY GOODNESS WHAT IS HAPPENING and then your brain is too bored at the start of the next game because of late game

Does that make sense

[solemn fossil]

Having played the game yeps

[neat helm]

I play command and I stack speed

Mmmm 4 energy drinks and 12 goat legs and syringes

[solemn fossil]

I do not play command cuz so many decisions makes my brain fry and then I die while choosing

[solemn fossil]

How do you even control yourself at that speed

[neat helm]

I don't

I play acrid and I leap off the map

[neat helm]

Just think of your build then go with whatever seems like it'll help then stack 80 of those

[solemn fossil]

[inner gull]

thats not that fast of a speed

its like 1.5x the normal amount you want

[solemn fossil]

I did do it once and stacked like

• 60 repulsion plates
• 20 rasor wire + 12 leeching seed
• 2 planula
• 4 conch things that auto activate ult
• hellfire tincture for the ult

Everything died and I was imortal

[inner gull]

obligatory ror2 clip

[solemn fossil]

[neat helm]

I had a build like that but ofc for dps and passives and I died to a flying pest

Also my new strat is to get one of everything THEN start building

[solemn fossil]

I struggle with speed after like 1 loop Its probably a skill issue genuinely

[neat helm]

Defeat mithrix loop 1 def

[solemn fossil]

Looping till the game breaks is the secret ending

[elfin parrot]

wasnt that the game we played literally the other day lmao?

[elfin parrot]

for some reason my game was not happy right from when we started lmao

[solemn fossil]

[solemn fossil]

Ikr and yet somehow it stayed working up to the end even though I couldn't see the screen

[neat helm]

I love being an acrid and railgunner main

No I'm not sane

[neat helm]

I'm also a void fiend main

I accidentaly quit at wave 10 in the simulacrum tho

[neat helm]

I might actually beat ror2 on rainstorm difficulty finally

[solemn fossil]

Goodluck!!

[neat helm]

Never mind I got slammed by a blazing scorch worm hoard

[neat helm]

Second go around I'm on stage8

[neat helm]

Got obliterated by three wandering vagarants

(That was much earlier but I didn't have my phone)

I wanna switch to void fiend or acrid so bad but I need false sons survivor entry

[neat helm]

Dead riskchat

[wanton tusk]

today i learned clay templars get really funny at a specific range -Eliza

i already knew from false son that some enemies have ranges where they're practically harmless but this might be the funniest example -Eliza

[neat helm]

Adress the elephant in the room

[elfin zinc]

elephant: adress me.

[scenic bough]

Hello
Been playing the new DLC
Anyone has tips for avoiding the ||Laser Grid Move|| from this DLC's new boss?

[inner gull]

just found out that wecho doesnt work with armor???

so if you have more than 25 armor (notably opal since they trigger together usually) it makes you take more damage

[wanton tusk]

Try to stick in the middle (vertically) of the arena
It gives you time to react to the ceiling and floor grids, and if you need to buy time you can either jump down or take one of the elevator pillar things

[pure stratus]

drifter is so busted 😭

trying em out for the first time and i killed the first 2 teleporter bosses in like 2 seconds

[inner gull]

drifter is really good especially alt special

[pure stratus]

isaac now has the d6 ass alt :3

[wanton tusk]

go my built-in recycrapper -Eliza

[solid plaza]

the risk of the rain is increasing

[inner gull]

what has everyone been using for operator loadouts i have no clue what to use

[fair bramble]

Only base loadout, tbh the none of the alt interested me, but i haven't done much than read what they do

And no, i have no idea of wich starting drones are better lol

[inner gull]

the alt secondary seems like it might be stronger than the base one but its so much less interesting

operator e1

oh i got a bad screenshot

[fair bramble]

cool

[inner gull]

i wish i knew how things interacted with nanobugged that would be a big deal

i dont know if the bonus hits are total or base damage

[fair bramble]

True

[inner gull]

wonder if the way drone combiners interact with operator drones make it worth to bring two different ones or not

[fair bramble]

Samee

Also, does the alt secondary allow you to throw drones to make easier to chain the utility like the base secondary?

[inner gull]

you have to be targeting an enemy

so not to the same degree

[fair bramble]

Awh

Okay then, i'll see if i can test the skills soon, interesting to know the alt secondary probably does more damage

[fair bramble]

10 watches, 7 lens and 4 scorpions omg, did you just get rlly lucky with printers?

[inner gull]

watch was a stage 5 printer and the other two were from soup

would have only take 1 scorpion if it wasnt for the only other red being wultures

[fair bramble]

Oh wow, good run

I have so many eclipses to do yet omgg

Gl on the new characters eclipses winter!

[inner gull]

im mainly getting the alloyed collective skins rn

after that im probably just gonna dedicate way too much time to one annoyingly long loop to get all the loop stage logs and hopefully some enemy logs

[fair bramble]

Ohh, true there's that too

[fresh basalt]

felt like doing the huntress skins i didnt have and got a bit silly by the end

[elfin zinc]

my name is arth and i play risk of rain 2

[fair bramble]

five hundred gasolines

[fair bramble]

🌧️

[fresh basalt]

gasoline is unironically one of my fav items

[elfin zinc]

gasoline is good as shit

especially now with the new enemies

the new bosses get really owned by gas too

[wanton tusk]

we are going to beat you to death :steamhappy: -Eliza

i love drifter and operator -Eliza

[wanton tusk]

alt m2 surprisingly isn't all that much better for damage, at least from itemless testing i've done
with a little bit of better shield usage the bottom-left clip here could've shaved off 1-2 seconds but that isn't much -Eliza

[inner gull]

the main difference is when you start having more drones is what i was thinking

since you would get effects that arent damage from a lot

ig the question is are the effects of most drones better than just doing 450% damage with aoe burn on crit

[wanton tusk]

that is true
at that point though you're moreso choosing between utility vs raw damage -Eliza

[inner gull]

alt secondary lets you more comfortably start with double healing though which is cool

its a very well balanced loadout choice at least which is nice since most arent

operator probably has the most balanced alts in the entire game i think all of them are up to personal preference

[wanton tusk]

i honestly think special is the only exception to this because default special kinda just
does everything????? -Eliza

[inner gull]

i think default is better but i think its still pretty close

2000% damage in that big of an aoe is quite a lot

[wanton tusk]

it's an aoe that stuns enemies and acts as an effective root for bosses, doubles the damage they take, potentially multiplies the procs they take because nano-bugged has a 0.5 proc co for some reason, and lasts as long as you shoot the enemy -Eliza

[wanton tusk]

that is also true -Eliza

[inner gull]

is nanobugged base or total damage with the 120% splits

and it is 2 120% splits or that and the base hit

[wanton tusk]

base damage but it's effectively 100% total damage -Eliza

[inner gull]

the description is very unclear

[wanton tusk]

it essentially just stores 100% total damage and spams 120% base damage 0.5 proc co hits until it's dealt that amount of damage -Eliza

which also means that its proc rate is kind of like runic lens????
more damage = more proc -Eliza

[inner gull]

ok so you basically get the same amount of damage but its split into smaller hits with more but less individually powerful proc potential if you do enough damage

[wanton tusk]

yup yup -Eliza

[inner gull]

thats a bit weird with spamming the primary then

wouldnt that be converting your 150% 1.0 proc into 120% 0.5 and 1/4th towards the next one

[wanton tusk]

the 120% hits are additional rather than converting the initial hit
so you're getting the 150% 1.0 and the 120% 0.5 -Eliza

[inner gull]

oh theyre additional thats hype

yeah thats probably stronger than the alt outside of band procs

[wanton tusk]

yeah nano bugged would kinda suck if it was converted i think 😭 -Eliza

[inner gull]

drifter feels a lot less balanced

i feel like cube, whatever the bag jump is, and whatever the recycler is, is the best loadout for her easily

[wanton tusk]

yeahh
i've heard salvage can be just as good as tinker but that's just hearsay -Eliza

cleanup can deal absurd damage but that's gambling and it also falls off in final bosses where you don't have free junk generators (tp enemies or cube) -Eliza

[inner gull]

i think tinker is a lot better the macro is crazy

[inner gull]

drifter has such little mobility i feel like you need the bag jump utility im too lazy to remember the name of

since cleanup is very inconsistent and gives you minimal control

[wanton tusk]

it's excellent macro + guaranteed movespeed and regen because of her passive yup -Eliza

it's
really dumb 😭 -Eliza

[inner gull]

ror2 has a problem with loadout balance in general

theres very few choices that are actually balanced compared to each other

[wanton tusk]

yeah it's quicker to name the balanced ones than the unbalanced ones -Eliza

[inner gull]

off the top of my head theres huntress primary, bandit secondary, mult double nailgun powermode or double rebar retool, arti secondary, merc secondary, loader secondary, captain 2nd beacon between shock and hacking and ig the utility as well, seeker utility, false son secondary, chef utility, operator secondary and utility

thats a larger list than i thought but thats less than 1 balanced alt per character on average

[wanton tusk]

i'd say merc dashes are pretty equal too tbh it's just that people don't experiment more with hyperaggro blinding -Eliza

granted hyper aggro blinding does require more effort and knowledge to deal similar damage to the standard focused swinds playstyle -Eliza

[inner gull]

im gonna disagree here because i think the expose is a really big deal

and double exposing on it with a m1 extension is a lot too

on that i wanna say i think the merc special is not an even choice at all i just think people find eviscerate fun

the iframes arent even that important when it spits you out right next to the enemy

[wanton tusk]

i honestly haven't tried evis enough to form an opinion on its viability i've used it twice and decided it wasn't for me -Eliza

[inner gull]

its hard to compete with ranged aoe expose on a melee character that loves reseting cooldowns and struggles with range

[wanton tusk]

commandotrue.. -Eliza

[gusty mulch]

there was a risk of rain

wtf 84mb??

[fair bramble]

And her run was fire...

[gusty mulch]

true!

also wtf there's so much to this damn dlc

i'm finding all kinds of wacky stuff

spoiled for Alloyed Collective spoilers, but what the actual fuck

this looks awesome..

well shit

they do so much damage 💔

but also, it's peak af

[neat helm]

Question

How does removing prayer beads work?

[inner gull]

wdym

[gusty mulch]

you can remove them via scrapper, having it removed from you via printer and getting it stolen by mithrix.
scrapper is the best way to remove it

[inner gull]

you can also get it removed temporarily by one of the ac enemies but thats rng

oh and you can try giving it to spex and youll get it removed and then returned as well

[neat helm]

Spex?

[inner gull]

the thing in computational exchange

[neat helm]

Is that alloy?

[inner gull]

yeah

[wanton tusk]

i made a "few" changes to ||solus wing|| on a whim and honestly while this is WAY overtuned for vanilla i might keep this as just a challenge for whenever i feel like fighting a harder version of it
this feels properly superbossy -Eliza

[gusty mulch]

there was a uhhh, uhmmm a uhhhh... there was a... errm.... Oh! risk of rain! there was a risk of rain

[elfin zinc]

i love the multiple biden blasts it sounds really fun to dodge

though yeah it has to be a superboss or something cuz you need speed to do that

[wanton tusk]

it actually is doable without mobility but you'd need either to constantly be camping a ramp or taking advantage of the vase rails
which honestly probably makes it even better since i like the idea of "you can fight the superboss underprepared but be prepared to be smart about it" -Eliza

[elfin zinc]

true

i forgot about the rails

but they're really useful with the laser too if you have low mobility

there are also thingies that push you upwards in the arena

in general the solus wing arena is very well designed

[wanton tusk]

i made some changes to ||solus heart|| as well and hooly fucking shit -Eliza

phase 1 is fine (phase 2 too but i don't have a clip) -Eliza

but phase 3 is hell on fucking earth you need to practice it multiple times over to get even close to consistent 😭
to the point i had to just record the attack pattern with noclip -Eliza

should i nerf phase 3? probably!
will i? probably not! -Eliza

[gusty mulch]

Tonight we feast

[neat helm]

500 growth stacks

[wanton tusk]

kjaro's if it was peak -Eliza

[elfin zinc]

what the fuck?

[inner gull]

oh is this the old behavior

[wanton tusk]

no i edited it myself :silly2: -Eliza

[crisp ruin]

i just beat mithrix

wish me luck on defending hte ship

YES!!!!

[elfin zinc]

congrats!!

[crisp ruin]

if mithrix steals a ton of tougher times in phase 4

would that make him just

impossible to kill

cuz tougher times stacks

[crisp ruin]

is the goat hoof just

a really long sock

[elfin zinc]

nah

mithrix has a hidden second healthbar that depletes as you attack him

that's the "item healthbar", so it doesnt matter if he keeps healing or blocking damage, you'll still get your items back

and you'll get him regardless to avoid softlocks like these

[inner gull]

tougher times and safer spaces are blacklisted from mithrix

[elfin zinc]

my point still stands!!!!! aaghhh!!!!!!!!!

[inner gull]

to my knowledge there isnt a way for mithrix to become fully invulnerable so theyre never unkillable because of what arth mentioned

[crisp ruin]

the void reaver explosions were really cool

[wanton tusk]

bvvrghfgghvhgh-Eliza

[inner gull]

this is the stupidest chest i have ever gotten

[inner gull]

peep the slugs

[inner gull]

stage 2 drifter lmao

i forgot to scrap the tank womp womp

[inner gull]

@elfin zinc drifter runs are so stupid istg i got 2 terrible reds in choice orb things and i was able to reroll them into behemoth and overspill (i also got a stage 3 recycler because of rerolling a multishop)

[elfin zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/859833980815540244.webp?size=96

drifter beloved

truly the item character

[elfin zinc]

@inner gull congrats on 100%'ing the game ! ! ! !

[scenic bough]

Wait how did you get so many permanent items from it
I thought drifter's thing was having a million temporary items

[inner gull]

no thats just me full looting stage 1 and stage 2 with bands

this is like a slightly above average amount of items for an aqueduct run

[scenic bough]

Oh
End of stage 2, not start

I thought this was entering stage 2 and i got confused

[wanton tusk]

Now if only behemoth actually stacked well -Eliza

[crisp ruin]

made it to mihrix once and now i keep dying at sky meadow i think i have to play bandit more

[crisp ruin]

i know its possible to kill this guy i swear i know he has to be able to die

[inner gull]

yeah you need an obscene amount of damage

[crimson cargo]

she has a reroll abil

[crimson cargo]

you need exactly 10 lostseer lenses

[inner gull]

run had 93 items (not including temp items) at the end of stage 5 before i turned all my greens into clovers, also got a stage 1 cagger which i scrapped which carried the early game with voidsent

[neat helm]

Golly gee I sure do love losing eight elder lemurians to a FREAKING VOID SEED

[clever wave]

what class does everyone main?

[inner gull]

i play everyone about equally now but im probably the most skilled at huntress atm

[neat helm]

A mix of snipers and melee

[clever wave]

ok. i play bandit.

[inner gull]

@elfin zinc faraday spur or hopoo which is better

[crimson cargo]

ok ik i wasn't the one being pinged but what if BOTH...

[neat helm]

I imagine acrid is literally just the dog of the group
He’s intelligent enough to not be he just doesn’t care

[wanton tusk]

Acrid feels more like a cat considering how much he wants to be left alone atp -Eliza

[neat helm]

Catdog lizard

[wanton tusk]

might be the most satisfying ending to a mithrix fight i've ever had -Eliza

[swift temple]

risk of ultrarain

[storm bane]

i think he blinked

[storm bane]

railgunner with a ton of shit

[storm bane]

how many lunar coins do you have and HOWWWWW

[elfin zinc]

you can cheat lunar coins in

[storm bane]

how

[elfin zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysNPKeGjMfo

1 minute guide

read comments too

[storm bane]

im on ps

[elfin zinc]

oh then it's over

you can't do that

[crisp ruin]

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU SONIC BRO

[wanton tusk]

rollin around at the speed of sound -Eliza

[wanton tusk]

i wrote a little mini paper -Eliza

[elfin zinc]

but cube...

[inner gull]

where are you getting x9 and x5 from

[wanton tusk]

....oh goddammit it should be x5 and x3 -Eliza

[inner gull]

yeah thats what i thought it should be

[inner gull]

does that change the analysis

[wanton tusk]

not by much -Eliza

the average damage difference is more noticeable now but it still doesn't really make up for the speed, proc, ceiling, etc -Eliza

i should do calcs on cleanup with m1 cancelling -Eliza

[inner gull]

how does cleanup m1 cancelling work

is it just hit cleanup between each m1 or is it best to wait for a certain point of the combo

[wanton tusk]

straight up just hold m1 and spam cleanup as you would -Eliza

i need to double check to make sure if it works properly without something in your bag but with something in your bag it allows you to get a LOT more cleanup uses out -Eliza

oh yeah no it works properly with something out of the bag -Eliza

[inner gull]

we need to consider amp core on operator again we havent used it much

2000% damage in that aoe is crazy

[wanton tusk]

with hitboxes visible for clarity -Eliza

[inner gull]

good heavens

i suppose were playing drifter with cleanup next time we play

[wanton tusk]

huh
neato -Eliza