Risk of Rain World

[inner gull]

you leech money from enemies i believe

[sacred topaz]

why do that

[inner gull]

whats the point of having most aspects though

[sacred topaz]

when u already get alot of money anyways

[sacred topaz]

Fire Aspect is good.

Everything else is shit.

[inner gull]

fire and overloading are because they give damage

aspects arent meant to be for the player theyre for the enemy

its moreso an easter egg than an actual item

[sacred topaz]

Overloading is good

aint that bad

DAWG

THAT WASNT EVEN PAST OUTSKIRTS

just get WoV

[inner gull]

wov does exist yeah

[sacred topaz]

if u get an aspect, dont get it

waste of equipment

[solemn fossil]

I think the freeze one is only good for using the skull item, the one that need 4 debuffs

[inner gull]

if i see an aspect i will always pick it up

theyre so rare i dont care if its suboptimal

[solemn fossil]

[sacred topaz]

I say its a waste of an equipment.
but it really depends on how u feel

though with MUL-T

:3

[solemn fossil]

Also you look amazing with most of them
-# not that it helps any to look good

[sacred topaz]

Everything is wrong with that HP

[solemn fossil]

Thats a big osp

[sacred topaz]

@inner gull We're able to stream in any vc right?

[inner gull]

you should be able to yes

[sacred topaz]

just making sure

man. I just want maxwell

[fair bramble]

22 tonic afflictions jumpscare after i defeated mythrix, and there was still 3 void creatures they spawned

Zoea is not a good item imo , i sacrificed my shatterspleen and charged perforator for this item's logbook

[solemn fossil]

its OP on engi though, its not blacklisted for his turrets so a single one can cause a whole army if you keep replacing your turrets after they spawn minions

[fair bramble]

[solemn fossil]

but ya shatterspleen and charged perforator loss for Zoea is sad

[thick current]

i do NOT fuck with the lunar fentanyl

[inner gull]

its a large part of why larva is engineers best item to add on

[inner gull]

why is bolstering lantern a utility item its entirely damage

[elfin zinc]

dlc's wack

[inner gull]

now that i think about it some items are more common on account of falling under multiple of damage, utility, and healing

[inner gull]

is it just me or are scorch wurm projectiles/aoes oddly hard to avoid

[sacred topaz]

yeah there's nothing utility about that tbh

its within the same level of like the broken watch, albeit the opposite.

[sacred topaz]

seems fine

[sacred topaz]

In the wiki, it starts it's both utility and damage. But like, when u tell people "Is going below 50% and doing 20% increase damage considered utility" alot of people are going towards that it's mostly damage. That there isn't really a utility.

even the community doesnt even know

[warm marsh]

we have to go a full week without ror2 -eva

[elfin zinc]

(impossible)

[warm marsh]

we away from pc -eva

[inner gull]

i hope that prayer beads gets blacklisted from printers if something doesnt change since rn its infinite persistent scaling

[scenic bough]

How does that work?
Do you end up printing beads into more beads and generating exp from it?

To be honest i'm hoping the beads as a whole get changed
Probably my least favorite item in the whole game rn

[fresh basalt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVmRiYZtKUU

[elfin zinc]

i like the concept of an item that only gains use after they get scrapped it's cool

idk if it works well with exp though

[scenic bough]

Yeah the fact that it's exp is why i hate it

I'm down for an item that is intended to be used with scrappers
I like regen scrap and its purpose is just to be printer fuel

This one though does nothing both when you get it and when you use it

[elfin zinc]

regen scrap is based cause it can really help you to do macro better

especially on bazaars and stuff

prayer beads don't do shit

i think economy greens are some of the coolest items in the game

[scenic bough]

Honestly yeah i find them fun to use
I like sale star, i like regen scrap, i like ghor's tome

[elfin zinc]

i saw a ror2 race where everyone has the same seed but one guy won because he got headstompers from recycling a shipping form request red that the other dudes didn't get cause they scarrped shipping form request

it's cool to somewhat manipulate the game to get what you want makes you feel smart

[scenic bough]

I always keep the request because i think of it like
"Well, this item means by the end of the run i'll have x more items so it's a benefit"

[gritty spade]

Iirc the spawn rate for elites was almost tripled

Which is fucking insane. I feel like they managed to ruin just about every facet of this game with the update. I've never seen a worse DLC launch in my life

[elfin zinc]

yeah

they fucked the entire game up it's so insane

[vernal pond]

RIP balance

In the player's favor mostly

[elfin zinc]

ror2 enemies winning with this one huh

[inner gull]

i think its really interesting besides the printer

its ~15% more damage dealt when you scrap it at 20 stacks and youre level 25 (as an example) and it also gives health and regen

so its solid

[sacred topaz]

why remove something fun? :3

[fair bramble]

is the elite enemies bugged spawns only for sots or it affects all of them?
i didn't try to notice any differences playing the game normally but when with people that had sots i was overwhelmed by gilded enemies and other elite creatures, but i don't know if it applies to vanilla or if it only affects gildeds

[sacred topaz]

sots

but it should be gixed

[fair bramble]

the patch didn't cover that iirc

[inner gull]

its not healthy for the balance of the game

you shouldnt be able to infinitely scale your stats off a single printer

[sacred topaz]

If u expect balance in a game like risk of rain, then i dont think u found the right game.

But i do understand ur point.

[inner gull]

risk of rain 2 is a well balanced game????

[sacred topaz]

Well balance to the point that u can make overpowered shit

Its a game where items are the prime example of overpowered.

[inner gull]

the balance starts to break with a lot of the artifacts but not considering those its balanced????

you only become overpowered consistently if you loop

[sacred topaz]

Artifact of glass and glass whatever its called the lunar item. 100mil railgunner :3

[inner gull]

artifacts are not the main game

[sacred topaz]

But anyways point is, they can fix it. It seems like a bug, but its not that big of a deal cause this is a game that effectivelly breaks after a couple of loops or so.

Does it make the game unplayable?

[inner gull]

just because something doesnt make the game unplayable doesnt mean its good to stay

if that was the case you could argue twisteds should be unchanged because trans makes them fine

[sacred topaz]

My point is, ur arguing about something that is buggy but doesnt make the game unplayable. Yes it makes It unjoyable cause its a braindead mechanic but everyone has the option to not use it, amiright?

Fcking mobile

I say fix it for how it makes the game completely braindead. There is zero effort.

[inner gull]

i dont get your point here

i think somethings bad for the overall health of the game (therefore making it less enjoyable) so i want it changed

[sacred topaz]

How does it make it bad for the overall game??

[warm marsh]

Leads to repititiveness because they will either balance enemies around op runs so that you can only win with using the same broken strategies or it will mean that you will just always win if u get this setup -eva

[inner gull]

if you can get infinite scaling off a single printer thats just boring to do

even if you house rule it out thats just an entire printer of credits you lost

its the same reason rejuv scrap isnt in printers

infinite items (or stats in this case) from a single printer

[sacred topaz]

My point is that everybody has the option to make a setup that braindead.
I wouldnt personally because its a braindead setup and it shouldn't even exists. But to argue that it makes the game "unbalance" when there are other items that makes the unbalance seems like a total unnecessary point.

because there are items such as sales stars, shaped glass, Gesture of the Drowned, Sonorous Whispers, Laser Scope that make the game unbalance. The problem with the beads is that (like I said) its very braindead. The beads itself is a good item.

[inner gull]

laser scope is NOT in the same category as those

[sacred topaz]

Okay so we both agree it makes the game unenjoyable not unbalance

[sacred topaz]

Railgunner

[inner gull]

nope

[sacred topaz]

U gotta think about railgunner

[inner gull]

even if you always crit its 50% more damage while behemoth is 60%

brings your crit damage from +100% (200% total) to +200% (300% total)

[sacred topaz]

Laser Scope deals an additional 100%.
With Rail gunner, u do a signifcantly more. Especially since all ur crit chance is converted to crit damage.

Plus with shaped glass

And also brilliant beheemoth but like who uses that tbh

i dont even use it.

[inner gull]

i know how it works

it adds +100% to your total crit damage modifier

it doesnt increase it by 100%

[sacred topaz]

add = increase in damage.

[sacred topaz]

it says "damage bonus is increased by 100%"

so it does increase it by 100%

What's the point for this btw?

[inner gull]

im just pointing out its strictly worse than behemoth (when not stacking)

apologies have things to do bye

[sacred topaz]

idk about that. That's to say alot of people love to use it with railgunner so probably thats a personal opinion.

[sacred topaz]

I will give 1 agree though.
If u make an item that infinitely scales ur stats because of how the item works and shit, u did bring up a good point with the Regen Scrap, it does make the game unplayable.

But we all agree that it should be blacklisted.

[misty marten]

i feel void fields falls under this too at least to a lesser extent

i was struggling before going there but i have won every run back to back since

[misty marten]

at least in its current state

[inner gull]

rn yes i agree

loot and no time progression is too strong

id say it was at its best (but still strong) when it had loot but progressed time/stages still

[misty marten]

the one thing more annoying than it making you OP is how it feels like you are then IMPEDING on your run by not going

and you are

[inner gull]

ive just house ruled it out for the time being

[sacred topaz]

void fields are weird

also tbf I thought we were gonna get more void items to SoTs

its so lacking 😭

[solemn fossil]

"its going to have content equivalent to what sotv brought" is what they said in one of the streams, and yet it feels like it barely even hit half that

[sacred topaz]

Dont trust what gearbox says

srsly

SoTS was very lacking, very buggy, most of the items are pretty mid, and the boss is just outright wonky at times

atleast with SoTV, they added so much. It wasn't buggy, most of the items was mid garabage, and the void items were really unique

if they just added Starstorm as a DLC, I will give gearbox alot of love

[solemn fossil]

ya they didn't add a new item grade, a new game mode, they gave barely alt skills for half the new chars.
-# maybe i just had too high hopes for gearbox after hearing those words

[sacred topaz]

i mean everyone had high hopes

till it fell

and the DLC just

its a good dlc, but it needs more potential

[solemn fossil]

tbh their biggest mistake was altering the base game, if they didnt then they would have been way better off

[sacred topaz]

nah

the biggest mistake was selling RoR2 to Gearbox

[solemn fossil]

i think altering the base game lost everyone's trust

[sacred topaz]

They did not need to alter the base game

[solemn fossil]

that was hopoo, im talking about gearbox

[sacred topaz]

no bro

U dont understand

[solemn fossil]

[sacred topaz]

The biggest mistake of all was selling it to gearbox

and this is exactly what gearbox would do to the game

[solemn fossil]

that doesnt change my point though

[sacred topaz]

No it doesnt

But I had to reavaluate my point

the biggest issue hopoo could've avoided is if they didnt give the IP to gearbox. We were already spectacle of the fact gearbox would do a horrible thing to RoR2

And now that we've seen it happen, I mean it wasn't horrible but it was BAD. Like those Negative reviews didnt come out of nowhere.

but from a company perspective, it was alot of money. Money for their family, lives, etc.

and atleast gearbox is willing to make the game alive. So that's a +1

[solemn fossil]

And they were already done with ror2

[sacred topaz]

they were done yea

they could've let the modded community thrive still.
But they decided to sell of the IP to gearbox. Which is understandable dont get me wrong. Gearbox had collaberated with Hopoo with the makings of SoTV.

The issue is that because its mostly Gearbox, there's not alot of room for hopoo themselves to give imput. They have other things to do. And now recently most of their team has been hired to work with Valve.

[solemn fossil]

Imo if gearbox does fix their mistakes then i will keep my faith in them, only time will tell though

[sacred topaz]

They have

But that's not what fixed those negative reviews.

[solemn fossil]

I mean with the dlc lacking content

[sacred topaz]

they made a dlc that lacked content than the previous and nobody expected it to flop so hard.
There were high hopes, everyone gave gearbox a chance. But then they flopped. Like a fish out of water

[solemn fossil]

Like, every character has an alt skill set why does the sots not have alt sets

[sacred topaz]

idrc about the characters tbh

The characters are its own situation

It's how they bring the content thinking its gonna be big like SoTV when it just like, look like a fckin gnat

hey atleast chris was still making music for the game

[solemn fossil]

Ya

[solemn fossil]

"goodbye my only friend, next time DON'T GET VOIDTOUCHED "

-# /silly

[inner gull]

child projectile does more damage than a grandparent rock throw

(600% damage with 15 base damage)

[sacred topaz]

somehow

SOMEHOW

[inner gull]

im curious what seeker secondary is everyone using

[elfin zinc]

balls

stronger imo

[fresh basalt]

-# i usually use hand but i think both have good things about them

[sacred topaz]

I use hand. The secondary ability works best with sojourn

The flying ability whatever lol

Although when thinking about it, barrier is good defensive hp. U can already heal with the last ability.

[topaz quest]

I like the balls they’re awesome

[sacred topaz]

https://youtu.be/YBv4592WHhY
man

@solemn fossil

[solemn fossil]

-# why was i @

[sacred topaz]

beauty my man

man released another solo

[elfin zinc]

peak fiction

why is it so good

[sacred topaz]

https://youtu.be/2iPBmClAQRU

this buggy ass game

[elfin zinc]

this dlc never fails to deliver

[sacred topaz]

Focus on those 2 orbs (thanks to a mod). Represents the player position.

also yes I have a mod that gives new survivors 3 alts as intended of hopoo

[sacred topaz]

LMAOOO

[elfin zinc]

inch resting

we all know the og risk of rain devs are working at valve now correct

apparently they're going to be working on deadlock

valve's upcoming moba

[solemn fossil]

-# wait is valve gonna give up on dota 2

[sacred topaz]

Deadlock doesnt feel like a moba tbh

[sacred topaz]

No.

[fair bramble]

omg what is this run

kinda sad that i have no bands but plimp+icbm is enough damage for the entire run tbh

[warm marsh]

FREYA GOT HER FIRST ASPECT! -freya

[inner gull]

which one

[warm marsh]

aspect of ice -freya

[sacred topaz]

o.o

[fair bramble]

first E8, i'll prob do eclipses alternating characters now instead of focusing on 1 lol

[elfin zinc]

NMICE

[warm marsh]

yay! beat mithrix before 30 mins :3

[inner gull]

i just got two reds out of a legendary chest with sale star rerolled them both to aegis

in other news false sons luanr ruin debuff adds to the base damage multi of the hit so that lets stuff proc bands if they couldnt previously (300% damage hit with 4 stacks now does 420% damage therefore reaching the band breakpoint)

[sacred topaz]

I thought it gives the enemie 30% Damage Taken from all sources?

@inner gull forgor to ping

[sacred topaz]

my fault *10

I read that shit wrong and thought of a different game LMAO

anyways wdym by "lets stuff proc band"

[sacred topaz]

OKAY thats actually considerable

[fresh basalt]

-# i believe she means that if you stack it, attacks that will not normally proc bands (i.e. an uncharged club swing) will proc bands if the stacks are high enough to cause the hit to go above 400% damage

[sacred topaz]

Ye

I never thought of that since I played seeker most of the time

[sacred topaz]

I will be fair though.
I'd give False Son a good chance if it had a decent alternative ability than Laser Burst.
(or well the new survivors should have 3 to begin with. Like hopoo intended)

[warm marsh]

yippee! -freya

finished a run and got 111 mil damage :3 -freya

[amber falcon]

charlie played ror2 once actually i think

[elfin zinc]

he did

[warm marsh]

RAHHH I HATE WISPS -eva

[elfin zinc]

even made a moist meter video on it

gave it a 95%

[inner gull]

apparently merc booping isnt a thing anymore due to the physics change

[inner gull]

does anyone know how much % of your health each tick of sojourn does

or is it based on something else entirely for some reason

[elfin zinc]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[warm marsh]

5 puritys feels like cheating lmao -eva

[topaz quest]

WHAT this is so messed up

[warm marsh]

we never could boop anyways -freya

[topaz quest]

it based on your damage stat

i don't know what percent of that it is but its stupid that you lose more hp from leveling up

or wait

i could just be dumb

[topaz quest]

its 20% of your max hp per second and has 4 ticks of damage

so 5%

[inner gull]

ah thats rough for e8

[topaz quest]

yeah frown

orbs can't do all the work forever

[inner gull]

i mean its above the 2.5% threshold for taking permadamage

well it could actually not be that bad as it could reduce damage taken enough so that RAPs bring it down to 1 damage taken

[topaz quest]

oh i see

[inner gull]

barrier gain isnt affected by e5 iirc so orbs will work about the same

[topaz quest]

oh thats nice too

[elfin zinc]

i used to boop a lot

probes feared me when i played merc

now that's GONE

that's so fucked ngl

well tbh i guess booping was really cheap but like it was fun at least

[inner gull]

i think it was fine as it was tbh

it didnt make merc unhealthily strong it just added onto their gameplay

and it added to their identity as the survivor with the highest skill expression imo

on that note what would everyone say the survivor with the most and least skill expression is

[topaz quest]

i might have to ponder that one for a while

and as someone who doesn't play the game to much and also barely played eclipse i don't know how good my opinion on it would be

for lowest skill expression i want to say bandit though

[inner gull]

it cannot be bandit

id put them as one of the higher ones

[topaz quest]

really why?

is there some cool bandit stuff I don't know about

[inner gull]

getting desperado/lights out kill shots consistently and backstab

[topaz quest]

oh yeah knowing kill percent is pretty important actually

[inner gull]

they also have the triple jump but thats easy so i wouldnt say high skill expression there

[topaz quest]

yeah yeah i guess

[inner gull]

what comes to mind are huntress and acrid

[topaz quest]

yeah huntress would have been my second one

i can agree with the huntress pick a ton

why acrid though

as someone who is really bad at them i don't get it

[inner gull]

mechanically acrid is pretty simple

they do have m1 canceling though

[topaz quest]

does that put them above huntress for you?

[inner gull]

poison uptime isnt too difficult either

[topaz quest]

true

i like to use blight sometimes though

[inner gull]

i dont know because there is also like blight which does add more skill expression

the skill expression of blight is how fast you can end the run and swap to poison fire emoji speaking emoji

[topaz quest]

LOL

[inner gull]

huntress probably is the answer yeah

if it wasnt for grenades i would probably say commando though

[topaz quest]

i can't for the life of me play commando

its really unfortunate cause i don't have grenades yet which would probably make it funner

[inner gull]

what loadout do you use

[topaz quest]

base and slide crying

[inner gull]

also yes grenades make it better since theyre something to learn and they are stronger

id recommend getting the alt secondary most people prefer it

[topaz quest]

i just don't play commando and hate looping personally

so its tough for me to get the commando unlocks

[inner gull]

ive been doing sacrifice/swarms loops because of false son and loop stage variants its sucked

[topaz quest]

oh i see

i need to get most of the artifacts one of these days so maybe i'll do that with the 20 stage commando run

[inner gull]

yeah good time to do it

if you have the dlc good time to get the false son skin too since they can be rough without looping (usually because of movement speed)

[topaz quest]

yeah i don't think i got it back when he had the ability to full map clear and phase skip base

or well he can still phase skip but i don't think the laser is inf anymore

iirc

they were really funny exploits

[inner gull]

i meant the skin for beating false son as commando

[topaz quest]

oh oh!

[inner gull]

which i will say the false son boss has grown on me but man there is zero real reason to go there

it has less loot than the easier stage 4s

[topaz quest]

its nice for me cause i like ending the game quicker but kinda true

i wonder if they'll fix bettle guard being able to kill false son post death

cause its really funny

[inner gull]

beetle guard helps so much against false son ive noticed

[topaz quest]

oh yeah

he killed the false son after i died once too and it gave me the captain skin

it was super dumb

[inner gull]

beetle guard is underrated in general id say its the 6th best boss item in a vacuum

ignoring pearls they only somewhat count

[topaz quest]

barely they're not dropped by a boss

[inner gull]

the pillars should extend across the entire arena and you shouldnt be able to be hit through them if hes close enough

[topaz quest]

that would be nice it does get annoying running to the other side of the map sometimes

[inner gull]

imo they should be a free stage tied to the shrine and the path stages should just be normal stages (with the order changed)

id make the stage 3 into 1 and stage 1 into 4

[topaz quest]

you know thats fair

i think i would like that

[inner gull]

my idea was it had like 4-5 large chests instead of a legendary chest

[topaz quest]

oooo

[inner gull]

since the loop variant has set large chest spawns

[topaz quest]

that would be cool and put a nice spin on the legendary guarantee

[sacred topaz]

Are you deadass?

[sacred topaz]

Engineer's Mobility Turret.

anything else is fine.

Chef's ability list also sucks. That's why its getting a rework soon

[elfin zinc]

i think mult has a insane amount of skill expression

he easily has the most tech out of any survivor

with loader and merc following behind

[gray patio]

On merc too
it just ends up being how fast can your press r

[gray patio]

the 100% is real..
i just got finished with all the mastery's which was fun tbh
all the characters are enjoyable to play in there own way, base and sotv anyways
I don't have sots. all i have left is dunked on rex and merc's 100% health trial unlock, I've been chipping at it but it is just a really hard to do on a trail with a bad seed

[inner gull]

chef has decent skill expression?

[sacred topaz]

They sucks in certain situations. But they pretty unique.

Alot of ppl dont like it

They getting a change

[inner gull]

that isnt what skill expression is at all though

also going off that engineers mobile turrets are not that bad theyre just under stationary

[sacred topaz]

They suck imo

[inner gull]

to address the obvious bungus is just above average on engineer but it does very little for your survivability until high stacks and id end up taking wungus if i dont have a decent healing source already

[sacred topaz]

It still doesnt address the main reason why its under appreciated for a reason

[sacred topaz]

Oh u meant that

Its fine.

I wish it was like ror1 tho

[inner gull]

i think thats a fair answer especially with all their loadouts

even just double nailgun power mode has a lot you can do with it

[sacred topaz]

Multi best

[inner gull]

just got the radio scanner for a stage i already had the log of???

treeborn colony but i dont have the loop variant logbook (was on the normal version pre loop)

blue orb no blue portal what

[elfin zinc]

seekers of the storm dlc

mfw

[inner gull]

new pots feel so bad why are they like this

might just be arti being arti but theyre getting stuck so easily

[elfin zinc]

while the major public hate for the dlc has died down for the most part

it's still baffling to me how sloppily everything was made

i'll be jonest

cause damn!!

i'm willing to give them a second chance though of course to fix some things and the dlc has a lot of potential if done right

[inner gull]

oh yeah same

[elfin zinc]

i especially love the lore it added a bit

[inner gull]

i am worried about the item changes if they did make 3 of them detrimental and also whispers

and also 5 of them being based on getting hit

[inner gull]

overloading worm logbook before grovetender skull emoji

also im absolutely decaying rn ive been looping for 20 stages trying to get logs and this is the only one ive gotten

gonna end the run with a voidling for a log chance

im free i dont have to do them again

now im just missing false son, aurie, and grovetender

what sucks though is im still looping for the enviroment logs i dont have any of the loop variant ones

and also bulwarks variants logs dont even work lmao

[inner gull]

does anyone have these btw ive been hearing that theyre bugged in some way

[inner gull]

supported by this

[sacred topaz]

yes

also the different varients for bulwarks are just.. why?

its cool, but u just have to grab different varients of it

[sacred topaz]

You never got the log for Voidling?

[elfin zinc]

am i the only one that thinks the scaling is so off that it's just unplayable and super fucking unfun

like they straight up ruined the game it's insane

[elfin zinc]

it just feels super off!!

[sacred topaz]

Scalling of what?

The player or the enemy

[elfin zinc]

enemy scaling

it feels super fucking off ever since the update reeased

like for real

and it's not just me

[sacred topaz]

I mean

Like they are harder??

Cause i mean, i can understand that.

It is a time = difficulty based game

[inner gull]

no i think voidling is a bad fight so i dont do them

also i almost exclusively play eclipse so its post mithrix only

[inner gull]

yeah it really is rough

had to kill a gilded xi construct as chef by running it off the stage until it hit the kill border

exacerbated by the average item quality going down and less damage/aoe/movement in the item pool

[inner gull]

also what does this have to do with what arth said

[sacred topaz]

I have no idea what the complaint is

Hence the confusing sentence

[sacred topaz]

Whats wrong with the enemy scaling?

[inner gull]

its mainly the fact elites have half the cost past stage 3

[sacred topaz]

What about the normal varient and not the elite

[inner gull]

so they spawn significantly more offen

[sacred topaz]

That i can understand.
They should fix that

[inner gull]

they died fine so idk why i couldnt kill the gilded in a timely manner

[sacred topaz]

Have u seen the stats of a gilded enemy?

[inner gull]

i have multiple times

also theyre just visibly tankier even without shield in mind

[sacred topaz]

Fair

[sacred topaz]

They should rework the new elites atleast imo

Gilded i find very annoying to kill

[sacred topaz]

Okay i can actually get a jist of this.

Fighting bosses with that wlite variebt is a pain in the ass. Like idk what they did with the scaling but good lord trying to kill the elite varient of those guardian things. Not ideal

[inner gull]

@elfin zinc do you use melee or ranged bandit secondary

[elfin zinc]

i use ranged

although melee might be more useful thinking about it

[inner gull]

ive been using melee since it has aoe and a bit higher damage but ive been thinking about it today and like

hemo is an actual damage solution for single targets if you can get it going

[elfin zinc]

it's actually really good

hitting the damn thing from relatively far away though, and hitting an enemy's back is hard though

and you could just blast them for less effort

[inner gull]

its only 66% more dps than bleed but it has 5x the duration

[elfin zinc]

5x the duration is huge becauusee you can just keep inflicting it

[solemn fossil]

They both apply hemo right

[inner gull]

its super generous for uptime

[elfin zinc]

iirc it recharges in time for you to just apply it again

yes they both apply hemo

[inner gull]

yeah my debate here is if hemo uptime is worse the lack of aoe and lower damage

but does bandit struggle with early game aoe with smoke bomb being a thing

[elfin zinc]

nop

i mean i did a bandit run an di was absolutely being overrun with a billion enemies but that's just an sots thing

i hardly use bandit's secondary

sometimes i really do forget it exists even though it has a really interesting effect

i think if it just applied hemo without having to hit an enemy's back then i would use it more, cause when i'm behind an enemy the first thing i do is press m1 and blast them

[inner gull]

ive probably used it more for jumping than i have attacking

[inner gull]

whys that btw

[elfin zinc]

a silly reason actually

when playing bandit i had this pesky void infestor up in my personal space and i tried pressing m2 but i had the throw ability on and couldn't kill it

if i had the melee m2 i would've

kek

i did catch it eventually though , of course

[inner gull]

couldnt you have used smoke bomb

[elfin zinc]

i could've true

sulphur pools on bandit is ass because of smoke bomb too

[solemn fossil]

It applies hemo when you crit so if you build for crits then it would be able to apply from front attacks

[elfin zinc]

smoke bomb can also break pots

[inner gull]

crit glasses arent very valuable on bandit is this thing

but you can backstab more often than youd think

[elfin zinc]

yea you usually don't take crits on bandit

but you can backstab often, you do get a lot of opportunities

[inner gull]

railgunner is the same where crit glasses barely do anything for them

[elfin zinc]

it's just that, i use these opportunities to blast enemies with my m1 instead of shooting up a dagger

love bandit though he's super fun

[inner gull]

i say, crit glasses printer stage 1

im tempted to print into it to see if i can get hemo to be noticeable damage

[elfin zinc]

item idea: glasses
it ups your resolution

[elfin zinc]

hemo can be noticeable damage at higher stacks yeah

even in stacks like 5 or so

the duration helps out a lot

[inner gull]

5 stacks is equivlent to about 8 bleed so that tracks

i got war bonds lets go

[elfin zinc]

congratulations you got the best item in the game

[inner gull]

im starting to dislike treeborn with how many items just get thrown off the stage

[elfin zinc]

what if treeborn wait no

disregard........

it's not lore accurate

i was going to say what if treeborn colony is the 2 big ass trees from siphoned forest but that's clearly just false lol 🥲

[inner gull]

what if treeborn stopped eating my goat hooves

[elfin zinc]

TRUE

off to the abyss

never to be seen again

[inner gull]

i got another stage 1 warbonds

man

unironically im taking another printed mocha over this (halcyon shrine)

[inner gull]

what the fuck false son just lasered twice in the row why

it only has a cooldown of 30 seconds so eclipse 7 makes it 15 seconds

could be even less if it recharges while in use

[inner gull]

@elfin zinc false son (boss) how do you feel about them

[elfin zinc]

I love their concept, being a coalescense of aureolinite's. mithrix's and providence's will and beliefs is a really fucking cool idea, the lore aspect is great, i love their design too, don't get me started on their boss song it's sooooooooooo baller

but the fight itself sucks ass

it's not even comparable to such a solid fight like mithrix

his animations are janky and not well telegraphed, the attacks are uninteristing and ass

[inner gull]

he goes invincible during the dash iirc

[elfin zinc]

the laser fucking sucks

he pretty much never does his melee attacks only shooting up little baby dumbass spikes at you and sometimes spawning some spikes that literally do nothing

[inner gull]

the laser could be fun if the arena was actually built for it

[elfin zinc]

and then his only real dangerous attack is the laser bream

which is soooooooooooooooo cheap but sooooo cheap

[inner gull]

mithrix already hits you hard with low move speed but i dont know if false son is reasonable without getting a move speed printer or very lucky

you cant even rely on your movement skills/equipment because you can just lose those and then get a geode on the pillarless side

[sacred topaz]

I had times (even in modded) where sometimes his phases are not in sync with the HP.

Meaning, if I were to kill him in phase 1
he would basically sit their invincible and do almost nothing until like 5-10 seconds later

OR the boss fight wont happen at all.

You do not see this with Mithrix or Voidling

[sacred topaz]

Gearbox: Let's make everything based on FPS.

False Son's Laser: Nah, your done.

[sacred topaz]

I mean, you dont wanna be close to him as a range character, do u?
I mean, with mithrix he dashes constantly. Making sure he hits u with a melee attack. So I guess it does makes sense that most of his melee doesn't even do shit.

also I treat mithrix as a joke. Constantly cheesing the fight

(doesnt mean I do it all the time. I had times where I completly skip his 3rd phase entirely)

[warm marsh]

can we get rid of wisps pretty please :3 -freya

[sacred topaz]

What is the wisps projectile?

Like I actually don't understand it sometimes

[warm marsh]

Its hit scan is it not? -eva

[sacred topaz]

Like what is that

[sacred topaz]

they have falloff

[sacred topaz]

Like its a projectile it should block it
But I guess its not any projectile which makes sense. But it also doesn't

whats good is that u can just u can easily defend from their attacks.
but even then, those suckas are annoying.

[inner gull]

everything has fall off

wisps are hit scan

[sacred topaz]

Im saying its not much of a worry since the falloff

but they hit nearby anyways

[inner gull]

youre aware you can cancel their attack by hitting them right

[sacred topaz]

They still learning so I assume they aren't.

but yes u can do that

[warm marsh]

Yeah but hitting them is so mean as merc and that's who we play a lot -eva

[sacred topaz]

Mean?

them suckas are killing u

[elfin zinc]

@inner gull

https://youtu.be/qNCkJZx-ivg?si=emNzjITOzx5-zcRB

interesting, really interesting!

[inner gull]

oh thats really neat

[sacred topaz]

was it actually unused?

[elfin zinc]

yes

[sacred topaz]

ah

I have it on my seekers modded

its a really decent good skill to have

[sacred topaz]

This was the mod

U can see the seeker 2 ability

mod name

[elfin zinc]

@inner gull

[inner gull]

man i sure wonder what my rex skin reward for beating false son is

[sacred topaz]

i have a friend who complains tha rex is super slow and unenjoyable

Me: Enjoys playing rex

[inner gull]

i mean makes sense they feel slow because of their size and have a weird utility for movement

[sacred topaz]

I mean yeah, but their utility is what makes them versatile

[inner gull]

their utility is about average imo

for the e7 (plant plant plant) and below setup id say it goes special > secondary > utility > primary and for e8 (robot robot plant) i would say utility > secondary > primary > special

[sacred topaz]

i was gonna say
"Second weakest is a bit too much"

Average seems a bit fine

Rex is just one of those characters that is
Not perfect, Not bad, but just within the middle

[inner gull]

id say theyre below most others in power

above chef and mando (on eclipse mando is better)

[sacred topaz]

Obviously.
There's more to the other survivors. That's why he's a mid tier survivor

He's not great, he's not bad, you can definitely get a run off of him, but ur better off with someone like Commando or Captain

[sacred topaz]

Somehow I do not understand commando's hate

hes such a good survivor
Not the best, but he aint a bad one.

Alot of people see him as a proc based survivor and I understand. But his control scheme is really easy to understand

just dont use grenade

[inner gull]

grenade is better than suppressive fire

suppressive is literally just a stun grenade when grenade enables bands and gives aoe along with burst damage

[sacred topaz]

i find suppressive fire top than grenade. Mainly because i don't really see grenade good unless u get a good AOE shot

[inner gull]

suppressive fire also barely increases dps (it fires shots equal to 1 second of firing your primary)

[sacred topaz]

obv
it's for supression mainly

While grenade is top burst.
I only use that. I have tried grenade, don't really have much of a use really.

[inner gull]

dead enemies are suppressed forever

giving a consistent band proc is also massive

its part of the reason why e8 rex struggles so much for example

[sacred topaz]

why use rex on eclipse in the first place

[inner gull]

gold e8 is a thing

also because thats an entire survivor youd be missing out on otherwise

[sacred topaz]

Ik
gotten it

But its still not a survivor I would recommend doing e8 with

[warm marsh]

rex seems too complicated for freya -freya

[inner gull]

im missing my gold e8 because i got burnt out after 10h of rex runs only getting sirens

[sacred topaz]

Ability spam, u also have to constantly switch abilities most of the time

[inner gull]

and now i gotta do sots survivors

[sacred topaz]

Freya, have u tried captain?

[inner gull]

spam m1, fire m2 when your health is good, use utility when you need movement or aoe damage, use special on groups or for regen

[warm marsh]

fun -freya

[inner gull]

its basically the same as any other survivor just with hp as an additional cooldown

[warm marsh]

we hecking love merc tho -freya

[sacred topaz]

which special u talking about?

[inner gull]

rex only has one special be honest

plant special

[sacred topaz]

Directive Harvest>

?

[inner gull]

harvest is equivalent to having nothing

[sacred topaz]

OH

U TALKING ABOUT TANGLING GROWTH

[inner gull]

i love being locked out my abilities for an entire second so i can get delayed healing on the the character that full heals with a primary

[sacred topaz]

yeah rex has only 1 special. even tho it's 2
We don't talk about the harvest

[sacred topaz]

get the diablo.

dont listen to what other people say

get the diablo

[warm marsh]

but still trying to get the merc monsoon skin firssst -freya

want diablo -freya

[sacred topaz]

Ah, I like that skin

[inner gull]

people know diablo is good now its the common opinion

[warm marsh]

yeah -freya

[sacred topaz]

Okay good

[warm marsh]

esp with the stunning thingie -freya

[inner gull]

there are very few things you can add onto deal 40000% damage to make it bad

[sacred topaz]

its literally a good fucking alt skill
there's no deny why u wouldn't want it

[inner gull]

stun beacons are actually so good people dont use them enough

[warm marsh]

so stronk -freyz

[sacred topaz]

they stop enemy spawn on teleporter event

[inner gull]

you can just disable an entire map with them and get free diablo lineups on enemies/mithrix phase 3

[warm marsh]

and you have them unlock from beginning -freya

[inner gull]

im a fan of hacking/shock but i think shock/shock is equally viable

[warm marsh]

captain is very fun -freya

microbots are very stronk -freya

captain would still be very strong even wihtout microbots -freya

[inner gull]

mhm

i think people underrate the secondary even if its not great

[warm marsh]

it stuns elder lemurians -freya

[inner gull]

disable a priority target is very helpful on a character with no mobility

[warm marsh]

very very useful -freya

[inner gull]

(for chance shrines/legendary chests and i only need one shock typically)

[warm marsh]

also havent unlocked hack what dkes it do? -freya

[inner gull]

makes any money costing item its range free

purchases them once instantly and then future uses of chance shrines are free to be exact

[warm marsh]

oh slay -freya

wait so insta buy leg chest? -freya

[inner gull]

theyre nice but having more than one is redundant

yep

[sacred topaz]

we just dont use em because ur better off doing a hacking for yknow what, and healing for teleporter event

tyhats like the basis for captain

[warm marsh]

only problem with captain is 0 mobility -freya

[inner gull]

healing beacon is mediocre?

its basically just a shrine of the woods you can place

[warm marsh]

should be able to use the uhm red circle atack tk rocket jump -freya

[sacred topaz]

tell that to the people in Risk of Rain Community Server

[warm marsh]

healing beacon save us more than once -freya

[sacred topaz]

alot of people use healing beacons
alot of people use shock beacons

it isn't mediocre. u can have both heal and shock

and I do actually use shock more than Hack

[warm marsh]

having two schok is good because save one for telingporter and also one for saving yourself out of bad situagion -freya

[inner gull]

iirc it has a similar amount of healing to desk plant

and i havent seen people call desk plant good often

[sacred topaz]

the only difference is that desk plant can stack and heal for greater

I think?

[inner gull]

it increases range

[sacred topaz]

yeah captain healing is better

[inner gull]

its the same

5% every 0.5s and 10% every 1.0s

[sacred topaz]

I wouldn't say the same

Desk is just faster

0.5 vs 1.0
that's a 0.5s difference.

[inner gull]

thats the exact same amount of healing per second

[warm marsh]

tuth -freya

but desk need kill to spawn but beacon only in beacon spot, both have pros and cons -freya

[inner gull]

outside of mithrix when arent you killing enemies tbh

[sacred topaz]

u can use Forgive Me Please since it counts as an onkill

[warm marsh]

forgive me please is maybe favourite equipment -freya

[inner gull]

anyways i believe healing beacon to be bad because of the opportunity cost and how you really shouldnt be tanking enough damage to need that much healing

[sacred topaz]

Player Preference

That's why they give u a choice

I choose healing and stun

people do stun or hacking

or hacking and healing

[warm marsh]

wait is there only 3 different beacons? -freya

[inner gull]

i mean its been generally agreed upon the most effective strategy is relying on avoiding damage instead of healing it off

[inner gull]

hacking shock healing resupply

[sacred topaz]

Stun, hacking, healing

[inner gull]

and healing doesnt work with the former

[warm marsh]

resupply? -freya

[inner gull]

refreshes your equipment charges a few times

[warm marsh]

ew -freya

[sacred topaz]

yes.
But u do need the healing nonetheless if u do get damage. Which is why things like the healing shrine and the healing beacon do exists for
I do agree that ur not gonna get much of an opportunity with it. But who knows? This is a game where u play however u wanna play. Risk for reward, roguelike

[warm marsh]

RISK?!? LIKE RISK OF RAIN?)?! -freya

[inner gull]

i mean you can play how you like but were not arguing for arrow rain being a good choice

[sacred topaz]

fuck arrow rain

[warm marsh]

arrow rain on top -freya

[sacred topaz]

100% I prefer the other alt

[inner gull]

just because its useable doesnt mean its a good choice, the severity is just different here

theres only like, 7 choices to be made for abilities anyways

[sacred topaz]

Good choice to what audience tho?

[inner gull]

playing the game optimally

[sacred topaz]

I meaaaan sureee???

[inner gull]

if were discussing power thats the typical perspective to look at it from

[sacred topaz]

take this as a grain of salt.
The game is design to learn and experiment

so playing tthe game optimally doesn't exists imo

[warm marsh]

we going to get merc monsoon skin this time for sure -freya

[sacred topaz]

gl :3

[inner gull]

i mean people have already learned and experimented

and the consensus from the best players on the optimal strategy is pretty similar

[sacred topaz]

but we're not talking about the best players. We're talking the overall playerbase of risk of rain.
From the first timers, to the overall top.

From Speedrunners vs casual players

Also

I missed this ability

who tf uses this?

I never seen anyone use this
maybe there are people who use it, but like? is there a general consensus at play here? cause even new players just generally disregard this over other options

[warm marsh]

ror2 is so hard monsoooooon -freya

[solemn fossil]

Ik im late but i typically take that along with healing beacon, just bc it lets me as soon as i get squib turrets summon them anywhere and use healing beacon to make them immortal
-# not the best one to take if not doing this build though

[inner gull]

thats actually really interesting

what do you do with them if you dont get sqolp though

[inner gull]

my diablo went invisible and i got hit by it lmao

thought it despawned somehow and then i just get blasted into the skybox

[solemn fossil]

I hope to find a dps equipment that way i can still make good use out of the resupply

I also go for fireworks and other on-interaction items

[inner gull]

i really should be using fireworks/sqolp more i know how to enable it against mithrix with drones

[solemn fossil]

Will say if you try out my build, wait for the final phase of mithrix to activate the squids otherwise he will kill them all with the shockwaves from his hammer smash

[sacred topaz]

I seen that happen in videos

[inner gull]

so its just for phase 4?

[sacred topaz]

huh.. never seen that synergy

send me a video of that.

[solemn fossil]

Without drones ye phase 3 has to much aoe for the squids to withstand, if you do have drones for the summoning though you could use those I forget repairing drones summons them

[solemn fossil]

I don't have one on hand, sorry

[sacred topaz]

when u do

[solemn fossil]

[sacred topaz]

ccauser that ability is really underappreciated

[inner gull]

to be fair captain does have one of if not the easiest mithrix fights

you diablo every phase besides 2 consistently

and if you instakill phase 3 you skip phase 4 if you have a kjaros

you do need a shock for phase 3 lineups usually though

[solemn fossil]

that's true, then it might be better for me to use squib phase 2 then

[solemn fossil]

Wait can mithrix get hit by shock beacon

[inner gull]

no

you lock an ad in it and then kill them when your diablo is at the right time

[elfin zinc]

some interesting ror2 clips i've gathered recently, just to save them, also don't mind the discord pings on the third one

funnily enough they're all mithrix related

also can someone help me figure out what the fuck killed mithrix in the third clip

shit's so weird

[inner gull]

a missile i think

[solemn fossil]

so by the looks of it you did 45K dmg with missile
-# could also be polyute bc the dmg shows up as pink, and iirc that means its from the void, but i dont remember if that means crit also

Though it's weird that the missile spawned from your pylon instead of you, is that normal?

[elfin zinc]

risk of rain 2

[fresh basalt]

-# arth should i build the man a statue

[elfin zinc]

you should

[solemn fossil]

Any risk of rain returns players

[gritty spade]

I believe the pylon's electric shock has its own proc coefficient

So it can proc ATG/Plasma Shrimp

[elfin zinc]

i just have it wishlisted unfortunately!!!!!

i really do want to play it though

[elfin zinc]

iirc it does carry over to your items

so you can proc bleed n what not

that was probbaly what happened

although idk why it did 45k dmg

[gritty spade]

The pylon just got sick of this bullshit and decided to oneshot the enemy because it doesn't wanna shock anymore

[solemn fossil]

idk how polyute works, but my theory is that the missile proc'd polyute which is why the dmg shows up as pink
-# just a wild guess with absolutely no idea if thats even possible

that or the missile landed a crit

[elfin zinc]

polylute can proc stuff!

that's why polylute and plasma shrimp is epic because each extra hit from polylute procs plasma shrimp

i guess that's what happened

[solemn fossil]

[elfin zinc]

shock beacon hit mithrix

that shock proc polylute

that polylute proc atg

=

45k dmg

def possible

[solemn fossil]

Mystery solved

[elfin zinc]

proof that the scaling is so fucking scuffed with the new update

i've never had something like this happen to me before ever before this fuckass update

and the stage 3,4 and 5 before hand were hell with billions of elite enemies

they also fixed trimping, what a sin!!!!

me when mithrix is significantly EASIER than commencement

fuck this shit they uninronically ruined the game 😔

i'm forced to do pillar of soul but that's literally impossible considering the billion perfected chimeras after me so do i just give up then?

i think i'll stop trying to have fun playing ror2 after this, it's just not a good game anymore

[solemn fossil]

Soul was already Impossible before

Can't imagine how difficult it is now

Also can I just ask why is there always a soul pillar but some of the others can have 0

[topaz quest]

i've played it like a couple times if you want to play at some point

[solemn fossil]

[topaz quest]

just ping me when you want to hop on

[fresh basalt]

-# SO true

[warm marsh]

been a while but wsg ror

[elfin zinc]

generally, who's better, loader or railgunner?

in terms of like best character in the game

[warm marsh]

commando

[inner gull]

loader

[inner gull]

acrid

[elfin zinc]

acrid is valid actually

he does have the best ability in the game i guess

poison's good

[solemn fossil]

Though i personally don't think there is a "best" character because they all are fun in their own way i think it would be loader because she has just as high dps, super tanky, hyper mobile, and to top it all off she is easier to get the hang of then railgunner

[inner gull]

id argue loader is more difficult to master

[solemn fossil]

[inner gull]

even getting the hang of too

railgunners stuff is just aiming and mine usage for the most part

loader movement is an absolute pile of stuff

[solemn fossil]

I feel it depends on your familiarity with shooters if you can't aim well then railgunner is pretty hard because that's like her thing

[inner gull]

aiming is part of every character so its a lot less than loaders unique movement

[solemn fossil]

I feel even if you're not going for the super massive dps from the perfect movement she still has a extremely high dps though take all this with a grain of salt as i don't play either all that often

[inner gull]

loader has low dps

what she does have is high burst damage

[solemn fossil]

Right

[warm marsh]

Merc is so silly

[elfin zinc]

he's squishy

[thick current]

captain my beloved

the best survivors in both risk of rain games are the ones i find pretty actually

[warm marsh]

Captain is very fun

[fair bramble]

@elfin zinc sorry for the ping but WOAH it's finally been fixed!

[fresh basalt]

-# yo wait new patch?

[fair bramble]

yeah

[solemn fossil]

And they are planning on fixing the dlc

I haven't yet read anything im lazy but I'm excited

[fair bramble]

i don't have the dlc but they're planning item and survivor changes !!

i just hope this made the monster scaling like it was before SoS

[fresh basalt]

-# the whole roadmap looks pretty promising tbh

-# hoping they actually deliver eventually

[solemn fossil]

Also suncles is back

[inner gull]

lets go

doesnt seem like they fixed the bulwark logbook bug though shame

@elfin zinc

[elfin zinc]

you're just a

a uhh

a

a seer!! you saw through the future!!

i saw the roadmap video already and it looks really awesome i agree

sots is not a bad dlc in concept it's just that the execution was bad, if they finish up the roadmap with all the fixes and rebalances this would be just survivors of the void 2 and it will be aweosme and it will make the game even better

now that the difficulty scaling is fixed i can properly play the game

[inner gull]

ill take a break from the game until the first part goes through

sots launch was exhausting

[elfin zinc]

fair enough

maybe i should just buy sots and wait till the items are fixed to play the game again

[inner gull]

the only thing id want to do is logbook farming but some of the environment logs are bugged

disturbed impact and the three bulwarks iirc

why is it so hard to get to the ror2 wikigg i cannot find it from searching anymore

[warm marsh]

yippee !!

[fresh basalt]

-# interesting combination of artifacts

[warm marsh]

prismatic trial

thats why run was so short

its the one where u get two guns in the equipment in a row

as merc

thats how freya gotted the 0 damage merc prismatic run

[shrewd vine]

Omg RoR thread

[warm marsh]

truth

[solemn fossil]

I completely forgot you said this you still want to?
-# really sorry

[topaz quest]

yeah i'll still play haha

[solemn fossil]

Lemme know when you do

[topaz quest]

heyo! quick question what times are you usually available?

[solemn fossil]

3pm to 10pm most days (UTC -6 )
-# and then of a little break for dinner around 6pm

-# im also free today all day today

[topaz quest]

oh oh

[topaz quest]

@solemn fossil would you want to play soon

[solemn fossil]

Maybe i just launched ds2 so i want to play that for a little bit

[topaz quest]

ooo alright have fun!

[warm marsh]

https://youtu.be/VaHnEuwMcEo?si=aY5NYQ7OFNdDbHvb

[solemn fossil]

i had intended for that to be short but then stuff happened, idk if you're still free
-# im gonna say no and go back to playing other stuff

[solemn fossil]

Chat idk if this has been found before but you can get more then 3 turrets as engineer

[fresh basalt]

-# wait what

[solemn fossil]

Im gonna try and cut my recording down small enough to show it

[warm marsh]

so sad

went to twiptwip

and game broked

[solemn fossil]

Ya

The game wouldn't end

[warm marsh]

going right back into it

[solemn fossil]

Good luck

[solemn fossil]

To break down what happens:

• All three turrets are out at once
• Turrets 1 and 2 die and begin to revive
• I place 2 new turrets which should have killed 1 and 2 but since they are dead already nothing happens
• turrets 1 and 2 finish reviving and viola i now have 5 turrets
  A nice thing to note is that placing more turrets wont effect 1 and 2, it only effects 3, 4, and 5 so this process could theoretically be repeated for infinite turrets granted that the lowest number registered turret dies first
  -# oh ya this wont work if turret 3 dies but turret 1 is alive, as placing another turret will kill 1 first and then 2 and finally reach 3 but by then the window may have closed

-# another side note is this is better for mobile turrets in most cases as mobile turrets can take advantage of this effect earlier in the stage and will follow you to the boss fight while stationary rely on it happening mid boss fight or near the arena

[fresh basalt]

-# so that only works if you have larva or dio's?

[inner gull]

oh wow thats actually really cool

[solemn fossil]

I never got a dio's to test it

[inner gull]

it works with dios if it works with plarva

[fresh basalt]

-# larva and dio's do fundementally the same thing yeah

-# larva just also converts items to void items

[solemn fossil]

Wait this could add some crazy synergy with captain if you have stationary turrets then you can place 3 and have captain diablo strike them killing them, then quickly spawn 3 more to get 6

[fresh basalt]

-# lmfao that sounds like a WILD strat

[elfin zinc]

omg lmao yeah

lets do that one day

[topaz quest]

so i went to take a nap

and then slept like 12 hours so

[warm marsh]

mul t is very fun

[warm marsh]

heck yoy scavenger

[warm marsh]

hecking elder lemurians

[elfin zinc]

gotta hate elder lemurians

[warm marsh]

Got hit by a SINGLE projectile from an overloading elder lemurian

Killed through mul t speed ramming shield

[elfin parrot]

[shrewd vine]

Elder lemurians built different

[shrewd vine]

I should get back to RoR2

Been playing Returns only lately

[fresh basalt]

-# did you forget the cry of gulls?

[warm marsh]

Evil

[topaz quest]

@solemn fossil are you available right now? i'd like to play risk of rain returns if so

[granite galleon]

Risk of Rain 2013

[solemn fossil]

Guh i only just read this now

[warm marsh]

moment

[topaz quest]

thats alright

[solemn fossil]

Are ya still wanting to play i should be free for a while

[fresh basalt]

[elfin zinc]

ror2 is finally playable after the elite bug got patched

lets go

i love having playable games

[fresh basalt]

-# the second

-# (lachlan died on mithrix and gave me all his items, we were both stacking gas and ignition tank)

[warm marsh]

woah

[warm marsh]

time to game

[warm marsh]

got aspect !!

fire !!!

[granite galleon]

🔥

[warm marsh]

also got ourple text saying

[WARNING] The ground shakes beneath your feet

what does that mean?

[inner gull]

is that the exact wording

[warm marsh]

holup

cant check but was very close to that

[inner gull]

only beetles, beetle guards, and beetle queens will spawn

[warm marsh]

oh nice

[inner gull]

beetle family event

[warm marsh]

thats why it was so easy

got two reds out of basic chests this run so far

nyot lucky at all

/silly

[warm marsh]

two behemoths

grrrrrrrrrrr

[topaz quest]

you should have pinged or replied to me last night i probably would have played also sorry for not responding i don’t really check this chat regularly

[solemn fossil]

Oh I'll do that next time

[warm marsh]

grrr this game

[solemn fossil]

lucky

[warm marsh]

one was from soup

other was from printer

[topaz quest]

what did you trade?

[warm marsh]

aegis

[topaz quest]

ah

[warm marsh]

scrapped aegis

[topaz quest]

are you looping?

[warm marsh]

nyo

died

was all on nyo loop

also WAAAAAA

[topaz quest]

i’ve like never seen a red printer

[warm marsh]

had 16 shaped glass died to fall damage

[topaz quest]

oh lol

[warm marsh]

this was 2nd red printer

first was aegis

that run was so lucky

[topaz quest]

wtf

[warm marsh]

got an aspect without clover

it was a fire aspect

[topaz quest]

wait clover affects aspect chances?

[warm marsh]

yes

[topaz quest]

i didn’t know that

not like it helps me though i still don’t have clover unlocked lol

[warm marsh]

clover unlock is ehhhhhhh

its cool to see big numbers

[topaz quest]

i find looping really unfun so i just don’t

[warm marsh]

fair

most runs freya gets arent that strong so loop

[solemn fossil]

-# btw i am free today if you want to play

[warm marsh]

freya can play too if want, but is going to eat first :3

[topaz quest]

yeah we could play soon

im fine with getting on right now

[solemn fossil]

Same I've just been chilling in other games

[solemn fossil]

Do you have rorr

[warm marsh]

oop

nyo..

sadly

[solemn fossil]

[topaz quest]

im fine with playing ror2

[solemn fossil]

Sure then @warm marsh could join

[shrewd vine]

[solemn fossil]

That or we could do a remote-play session though that might have considerably more lag

[shrewd vine]

Steam remote play is

Truly something

Are yall gonna play now or in a bit?

[warm marsh]

yippee !!

[solemn fossil]

Probably rn me thinks not 100% positive if everyone else is ready rn though

[warm marsh]

am ready

:3

[topaz quest]

im on the game

[warm marsh]

same :3

[solemn fossil]

So ror2 or remote- alr

[warm marsh]

wawawawawa

[solemn fossil]

Who hosting

[topaz quest]

i got on risk of rain 2 lol

[shrewd vine]

I cant right now but if you still are available in like an hour or so id like to play :3

[warm marsh]

if freya hosts, everyone else will lag :3

[topaz quest]

i don't mind hosting im usually pretty stable

[solemn fossil]

One moment i gotta go to my pc or i wont be able to chat

[topaz quest]

oh alright

[warm marsh]

silly

[solemn fossil]

i return

[warm marsh]

wawawa

mrow mrow