#Risk of Rain World
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its actually EASIER than the regular path too which is weird but once you get to prime meridian the difficulty spieks hard
it's just like the alt path from isaac really
Balance wise my main gripes are
-laser, that god forsaken laser
-gilded elites are just a bother
-most of the new items are really weak
alt path from isaac has 2 stages for each chapter thou..
and it lends itself better to isaac's random stage generation
while that's true i think the path of the colossus aint all that bad for the health of the game
i haven't seen them much but apparently twisted elites also just SUCK
you can always go in there and get extra items and go back to mithrix path
I saw them a couple times
No idea what they do
i wish killing the false son always ended your run though!!
The issue with the new final stage is
It's too early
New whites and none of them were speed which the boss requires, so a more cluttered pool
Too early means less items and less time to build
The reward isn't enough to justify missing out on stages
twisted elites have an area around them that's (pretty much) the unstable tesla coil
so you gotta hit them from a distance
you take damage when you damage any of the enemies inside the radius, iirc
O h
Right
Because tesla coil ennemies worked so well before
That may explain some of my mystery deaths when in looped runs
Might've gotten tesla'd without realizing
the unforgettable experience of tesla coin mithrix as loader
reddit says this is what they do in fact
which may explain the bs death i had the other day actually
feeling like this cta rn
I think i'll just
Command run to get the second survivor
headstomped down, died immediately. if i had to guess, radius hit enemies within a twisted elite radius and my massive headstomp damage reflected back to me and instantly killed me
i did this for both new survivors lol
on drizzle
i'll buy the dlc once it's patched and fixed
i'm scared gearbox won't fix the thingies and i'll just buy the thing in vain
BTW i wish false son always ended your runs
use bazzar
Still luck
if you don't have the halycon seed you just loop your run
the bazzar can have gilded coast in the things in the back
wtf!!!!
it's a way higher chance
that's like so bullshit lmao
And that is when you die to all the BS from jank
It is but again sometimes we get unlucky, loop and die
please make the halycon seed thing just a little easter egg to unlock the character
i just built a railgunner that killed all 3 phases within seconds
not smth NECESSARY to end your run there
which would be preferable
instead of looping the entire fucking thing
and killing mithrix
Our best run did bring haylcon to false son
We died to final phase
Because guess what
the laser
It's even more BS with the seed
i think it does yea
after you kill the son? or during phase 3
So now
Two lazers
phase 3
During 3
defo needs balance
I still don't understand how the spawning of the big floor spikes from false son work
Sometimes i just
Get one spawned on me
And i die
Without any clue what i could've done to avoid it
true
i'm still very frustrated he's not melee based
i know his teleport to slam attack is a real thing
but he doesnt have wide swing attacks
or just more melee attacks in general
which was what i expected
instead of being a agressive boss that rushes you down it just spawns 4 bitch pillars and lasers you to death
wdym golden geodes
The phase 3 one i know i need to break to get to play the game again
oh those right
But the whole rest of the time they kinda do nothing
immunity to the lightning, iirc. possibly something else? im pretty sure someone here said what they do
but i forgot already
I stopped trying to go for them after i died because one refused to be interacted with, leading me to try again and dying
im gonna go install aerolt and fuck around with him
What's aerolt?
cheat mod
Ah right
If you learn anything interesting i'm interested to hear it

the lightning is so ass
mfw
the actually just exploded the entire game :kekk

k so first thing i'm noticing
he attacks really fast
like, there's maybe 2-3 seconds between attacks
some of the regular attacks are choreographed okay, but generally it feels too fast
AI can't handle a single obstacle
most of the animations feel really half baked
like the downward club swing just kindof stops and goes back up
there's no Slam
the pillars are WAY too visually busy and there's too many of them. seeing the boss is extremely difficult
the only coreograph on the pillars is a single small explosion just before they show up
should be more like the mithrix pizza imo. big warning area before they pop up as damage
idk if it's a bug, but the club slam also dosen't have a sound? the animation probably wouldn't feel as janky if the slam had auditory feedback
but it just, dosen't
or it's way too quiet
(i have sfx all the way up)
that was just phase one. phase two
first thing i notice, laser does FAR too much damage.
there's not enough cover in the arena, and the tick is too fast
that's also like, it? that's the attack variety
it's phase one but he has a laser and some of the arena is gone
phase 3 the laser does even more damage, what the fuck
there's more lightning too, which is just
why
oh he just has an attack that disables all your skills okay cool
that's balanced (sarcastic)
for 400 seconds???
that has to be a bug
not a very good boss, tbh
it has potential? like, maybe
but it's just not good right now
especially with the Death Laser™️
wanted to test twisted elites but couldn't find a way to just Spawn Them
so i'll do that another time
@fresh basalt LMFAAAAAO FRAMERATE FUCKS UP VOID IMPLOSIONS
(warning shining lights)
WHAT LMAO
@misty marten
that's terrible but also so fucking funny omg
also you can see my dump about the false son above
i see
lame ass boss
istg
tbh im like. slightly appalled at how bad gearbox fucked up
they NEED to communicate with their players better
all gearbox has officially said is "report bugs on discord" and "we're working on/looking into it" on twitter replies
no public statements, no discord announcements, nothing
eh, true
idk. i feel like something aknowledging that yes, it's buggy, we're working on it, that's more visible than just twitter replies, would be good
they fixed pricing, obviously, because Money™️ but that's all they've done announcments about
the pricing change was really nice
they could've just let it as is
but they didn't
this is true
well that's good at least
they even asked for ppl that bought the game overpriced to refund and buy again
not gonna lie gearbox seems genuine and passionate about the game
it was just rushed tremendously
gearbox as in the dev team working on the game
not like gearbox which is like evil and fucked up
actually that checks out
gearbox probably fucked over the devteam with time restraints
also someone in the RoR discord posted this in the bug report forum
so apparently they really did just royally fuck up deltatime
this wouldn't suprise me honestly
you can tell
seeker is polished
chef is also polished
then false son is a fart
they were running outta time with false son and they just reused the model and animations
they're the same between the boss and character
lol
dw abt it you're fine 
it's fun talking with ya
digging through more posts in the ror discord and they are, in fact, doing things
i find it mildly amusing people are literally going into the game's code to figure out what's causing the bugs

what the SLOP
framerate determines the winner of the 2024 usa presidential election
LMAO
reals
funniest shit i've ever seen
he got turned into a pickle
im the pickle son
worst character i've ever seen
SOBBING
it always can if youre not on eclipse
the only items id really consider good or average are chronic expansion, sale star, runic lens, and free run win
do you think it would be epic if you could end your run at the false son on eclipse?
ig chance doll is okish
no
a big part of eclipse is that mithrix is required
Holy shit mithrix found the not-pocket-ICBM
how does that even happen
but razorwire is a item that mithrix can't use
no way they fucked that up, right?
hey ror thread would you like 4000 characters of my thoughts on the dlc
yeah
to give my thoughts on the dlc (ignoring the patch rn), ||i think the stages and enemies (excluding false son) are overall nice. some of the enemies have some jank (what doesnt rn) but theyre overall good. i dont like how the path stages (excluding prime meridian) are completely separate from the normal stages since theyre so disconnected and make path runs much more boring.||
||false son as a fight is incredibly strange and idk if the laser tracking is intentional or not.||
||on the other hand, the items and survivors are not in a good spot. first off the item printing red is far too strong. of the other items that exist, id say chronic expansion, sale star, and runic lens are in a good place (runic lens might also be too strong if its total damage but who knows). i think prayer beads, while on the weaker side, are fine and a good item to have as a weak item in the pool since theyre still helpful and an interesting design. warped echo (no osp and it delays shield, slug, and opal) and unstable transmitter (disorienting and can throw you into even worse situations) are detrimental. knockback fin also does nothing or throws off your aim so its also somewhat detrimental. all the other items are just meh at best (or in the case of luminous shot, only some what good on the false son). war bonds gets a shout out as the new worst red though. effectively, this dlc has just diluted the item pool with an unhealthy amount of basically delayed scrap and made it noticeably harder to get mobility and feathers. i think a lot of these items are built off the philosophy of "primarily heal off damage instead of avoiding it all together," which is just flawed and makes them rarely useful.||
||survivors are just bleh in so many ways. seeker reminds me of rex in a lot of ways, with a kit with an emphasis on healing and barriers. unlike rex though, shes built very heavily around support while rex is using the healing to deal damage. i think she suffers pretty heavily from the healing philosophy i mentioned above being flawed (rex actually benefits from the "avoid damage instead of needing to heal it off" as it means youre more free to spam self damage skills). shes in an awkward spot imo since it feels like shes built all around support and survivability which doesnt do much outside of multiplayer. overall a decent addition, but i did wish more of her power wasnt based in healing/barriers.||
||chef is all over the place. their passives healing pickup feels so much more jank than monster tooth in terms of grabbing it. their primary is also very strange and idk if its bad or if it takes adjustment so i wont say more about it. their secondary is just a worse flamethrower which is insane and it prevents attacks for ~1.5s afterwards. their utility is pretty average nothing special but its neat. glaze is their actual good skill and its their main thing they have going for them, its just a pretty good damage special. idk much about their alt special but i doubt it changes what i said above.||
||false son is strange. i really like their concept and how health items impact them. his passive/secondary gimmick is very fun to play with and id say its the best piece of survivor design in the dlc. the primary charge attack is cool and its something that hasnt been explored before and its generally fun to play with. their utility is pretty standard but it works fine with everything in their kit. the specials are both very interesting, though i think the default charge beam has issues with not being able to be canceled and often not doing enough damage. alt special seems in a good spot. imo false son is fun and a good concept he just needs some polish.||
it's crazy how buggy mithrix's final phase is now
skipping it also more difficult it seems
not sure exactly why but thats what ive experienced and heard/seen from others
when the echo is warped
🔥 ✍️
LOL
What are you meant to do when ||False Son disables your abilities||
That was my first time fighting them and it completely caught me off guard and I died :(
I SAW THIS 
completely agree
hit the shrine that's on the arena
imo that sucks
since it's very unclear on what you should do
and tbh just a lame attack in general, i think i'm really starting to dislike false son's fight

Yeah I had no idea and just panicked lol
Why didn't they add it to the "objectives" tab for info
that's so frustating
They really should I would have never figured it out if arth didn't tell me lol
As far as I was concerned I thought the geodes were just there to give barrier like the climb up
at least the music's good 
Yeah the soundtrack is so fire
I love the prime meridian one
Sounds so so good
As you're climbing up ugh it's amazing
pleeeeeeeeeeeaseeeee this dlc could be so good CRIES
I got the new new character.... ||very slow and weird to play, don't know how to feel about it||
very very very janky
clunky
wacky, even
100% jank
Seriously though they need to make them more smooth, it feels like playing a loader without the grappling hook
they need to like fix everything in the dlc
Yeah true
That ||boss fight especially, I don't understand anything that happens last 2nd phase, I only won cause of friendship (I had 40 drones and drone parts)||
So much going on and I usually get insta killed anyway
Even after cheesing the void area for loot
Other than that I think the dlc was pretty fun
||i found them to be noticeably faster just because of their secondary/passive actually letting me get enough move speed||
Oh dam
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we were SO close!!
mithrix with ping 😔
I didn't get the chance to open ror2 yet but do the bugs only affect SoS dlc?
no
nope.. 
i don't even have the dlc i'm in shambles too
free bugs galore
I was actually thinking about getting survivors of the void soon and having fun 
I'll prob wait for a bug patch
also the game got slightly uglier
i can notice
since console graphics got ported
stuff looks blurry
and the healthbar got a billion times worse
this is forced anti aliasing
fuckin bullshit.
ppl are modding the game to fix shit
Is it possible to downpatch?

i fucking hate gearbox. i will look at art of captain to feel better
so real
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good discussion from the like 5 top ror content creators
Hey everyone, Over the past few days we’ve been reviewing feedback surrounding the launch of Risk of Rain 2: Seekers of the Storm. Thank you as always to the incredible community of players who have come out to support us and provide insights which are helping to resolve some unexpected issues with the deployment of the latest DLC. We’re working...
woooo 
theyre not actually changing the dlc content at all with this so its still flawed in that aspect
also theyre not reverting the physics back to the previous version it seems
tru
Im just happy the game will be back to normal again
I don't care about the DLC content as much my frustration laid in the fact that the base game was suffering
The DLC can be dogwater I just want the experience to feel like it did before, I'm not excusing them for being lazy with it
I'm just saying that I'm glad they're taking initiative on the fundamentals of the game
Even though they should have not existed as bugs in the first place but what can you do
if they dont revert physics its going to still feel very different
They said they would unless I misread
theyre fixing the physics being different because of fps
theyre not reverting physics to the previous versions
That's probably why they feel weird no?
Hopefully after they address the most pressing issues, they return to the dlc and balance it out a bit 
nope
two very apparent consequences of it are pot rolling being different (not necessarily better or worse) and host skipping no longer working
Absolutely
Was host skip patch intentional?
the physics change was almost certaintly
its a result of them trying to more closely unify console and pc
So it's a patch by proxy is what you mean
yeah
I see
and a lot of things just feel slightly different and worse
Oh ya i noticed the pot rolling change 
next update: (red item spoilers) ||Sonorous Whispers now has a 15% chance to drop an item from all enemies.|| /j/silly
Fixing the major bugs is a (mandatory) start so I'm glad that's in the works
Has anyone tried doing the merc jump since update? Is that still a thing 
i think its been long enough to the point where i dont think that even needs to be spoilered anymore really but ill do it out of principle
Hope they listen to the community more
i dont trust them to balance the items since they seem to not understand core aspects of the game
yes, but if they really care about the community they could still change it
Btw whats host skip 
it was a really useful tech and it made non pillar skip equipments a lot more useful
this is a mult exclusive variant iirc but every survivor besides arti can do some version of it
Arti has her own skip so she really doesn't need another 
But thats really neat, I didn't that was possible 
i mean it isnt now lmao
Keyword "was" 
FINALLY
HE DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF
Sweet 
Nice!
no false son fix rip
congrats!! iirc that's one of, if not the rarest achievement in the game
yippee!
So many random threads
this is a peak thread actually
You now have the single ability that matches the best with your pfp

WAIT
do you get lunar coins for getting achievements now 
YES
omg
to bad the new dlc didnt come with many new achievments 
-# think i might start a new file just bc of this 
dlc added abt 10 new achievements
actually
to the game
steam only got 3
(for some unkown ass reason)
how it feels to downpatch your game
finally the Devotion Update i can now play as the Prisoner holy slop
it genuinely feels and looks SO much better and im sure its not placebo
imagine they fucked the codebase with the devotion
lmaoo
it's literally not
since it doesnt have new wacky psychics and no forced anti aliasing
it feels, and looks better, objectively
the player character feels like you used a sharpener mod when coming from dlc
btw
we were playing with a nerfed acrid yesterday
the update broke caustic leap
so you cant hit midair
literally taking a load of his rabged capabilities
hell NAW
though i'm sure our death to mithrix was due to ping
and not gearbox fault
though
if we got to pizza
it would be very bad
even at 60 fps pizza is bugged out i found that out on my bandit run i did earlier
it plays the sound first then the attack visual happens
and it stutters and is laggy as shit
an attack that you need the utmost precision and positioning to not die instantly (it deals an uninronic 40 billion damage) being fucked and unclear with it's visual and audio cues is terrible
atleast its all gonna be gone after you downpatch
genuinely ur not missing out on much even if u have the dlc because anything remotely good excluding skins is locked to the path of the colossus
even the items suck shit slop
no dmg and speed items is insane in the first place
am i the only one that rewatches that one clip we got of us dying instantly a lot
it's so fucking funny for me for no reason
the laughing really adds to it LOL
Oh i only checked steam 
what the fart
most of the items suck slop
other than that one red item that breaks the game
no movement items is what bothers me
same
😔
they could just
change knockback fin to
speed fin
lmao
and it would work awesomely
having a fin for a speed item really fits for some reason
lol bugs
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am i the only one who gets kinda peeved when someone argues that seeker isnt bad
like they are an awesome concept and would be probably one of my favourites after a buff
fact is that their damage is nowhere near up to par and its gonna stay that way if people keep coping about her current viability 
probably the same for the other two but i cant speak on them
sorry but seeker sucks
its a worse arti
the range is crippling, the attacks are lackluster at best, the only good things I find about their kit are the stuns and the heals
They're very self sustaining but very weak
The alt ability just sucks too
nail on the head
Why would you want to give up your band proc, heal and stun
Also I feel like her abilities have endlag
Sometimes I'll have to spam the Ult before she finally goes into meditation
Because it just won't register it at all
yea!!!
It's really crippling in a game about precision and reacting fast lmao
i saw a video online arguing her viability because "you can become invincible and build infinite damage with a mix of planula and repulsion plate" my brother that is not viability that is called a gamebreak
The only positive thing I can say about her is she can pillar skip with her kit
That's all she'll ever have going for her for me
And give her M1 more range for the love of god
Make it arti range idc it's like bruh
mm i got brownies
meditation sucks
uninronically
every meditation stack gives 1% of all stats
7% of all stats
wow that is so crazy and awesome
meanwhile bandit with desperado with LITERALLY infinite damage
them describing a "huge damage for enemies caught in the radius" in the trailer is almost insulting
arth our run was dying from stage one and that shrine of order just ended it before seeker's utterly terrible skills could
OK THAT SHRINE WAS REALLY FUNNY THOUGH
it's like telling your mom you pissed the bed
"arth... 17 war banners.."
knockback fin 7.5% of the time
literally i picked it up thinking woah it sends enemies into the air what absolute shite
and i went into my inventory and realised it was so much worse
speaking of this misconception i feel like not only are the new items terrible but so are the descriptions??
they look like fanficion it's so funny
downpour reference
true
this video is incredible
i already love woolie but he really outdid himself with this one
it just fucking clicked in my head that taketwo who now own gearbox who could have possibly been the reason ror2 is so fucked right now are the SAME PEOPLE THAT FUCKED UP KSP2 AND THAT MAKES ME SO MUCH MORE SAD ACTUALLY
THEY CLAIMED ANOTHER 
wait gearbox is owned by something else? guh
How about i make those Cadets squeal when i run in with my Happiest Mask to induce fear
i'm not that happy about the gamebreaking bug rn atm
which gamebreaking bug?
the FPS thing since i kinda play characters like Merc 
I found a bug with Luminous Shot
I don't know if it's survivor specific (I'm playing Acrid) but clicking the primary right as your secondary spit lands activates the damage buff on that instead
here
It doesn't have to be frame perfect at all
So long as you attack with the primary before the secondary lands it activates it
Come to think of it it might only work on non-hitscan characters since you do need to do the input before the attack lands
But it's crazy free damage
It also works on the pandemic
Add a puri and you can practically turn acrid into an even bigger menace
yes
and taketwo is like the worst company to ever exist
i think
they're so ass
it's extremely worrying that taketwo has hold of ror2
aint it
the team working on the dlc is very small, a lot of people were laid off
don't wanna be negative but there's a chance that it's so over
taketwo is known to be trigger happy if they perceive the dlc as a failure they could very well just nuke the entire thing like they've did many times before
I have been suffering so much what the hell is happening with seekers of the storm
I am refunding this now because I cannot
My main acrid just doesn't get to work now so guess I'll need to main a new character
But the thing is that won't fix anything cause
Its gonna get patched 
Ik but like
My run ended cause mithrix decided he didn't feel like properly taking damage anymore
POOR SOUL GRABBED WARPED ECHO

NOOOOO
if mithrix gets warped echo phase 4 its over
How was I supposed to know that playing the game as intentional would result in him becoming immortal
his hitbox is removed
yes
it's so funny though
instead of dealing one halved damage, then the rest
Only been able to select commando until restarting steam?
I don't know why it happened but it is annoying, what causes this if anyone knows?
exactly
Its a bug, these things happen 
although to be able to play the game as it was
you need to downpatch
they gave a patch to the og game that added all the bugs
the dlc just adds the content
the bugs are all in the patch
It didn't happen when the game originally launched 
that's why the vanilla game is getting tanked reviews
Idk, ik that i got the 3rd mando skin upon opening the game
didn't even have to work for it 
rip overwhelming positive
Survivors had some glitches but even then it was never game breaking like these
I feel like every other run I have found a new way for the game to implode on itself
My friend got their data reset trying to play with their cousin also, 200+ hours gone down the drain
it's true, you saying "Imploding" reminds me of this shit
warning flashing lights
We researched it and it was cause they plugged in the second controller
yea if you connect a second controller on xbox it nukes your save
forever
your best bet at the moment is downpatching the game and playing it that way
Apparently though it only does that to saves with large amounts of hours, some people with like 5+ hours kept their stuff
Which confuses me
The bugs were our payment to bring chef home, was it worth it
Yeah, it's so joever 
wait commando only is a real bug i thought woolie made that one up
the most based bug to ever grace this planet earth
we really just have commando ngl
the fact we only got a progress report after a week is crazy
fixing everything wont happen overnight for obvious reasons but there absolutely should have been a hotfix for the critical stuff by this point
that is why it is crazy
at least its not kerbal space tier yet
there is promise of a patch
hopoo games oficially disbanded and shut down guys 😔
no more hopoo games
unfortunately, no more hopoo games
they're working at valve now
which is bittersweet, they seem happy for the opportunity to be working at valve, however, it's so sad to see hopoo games go
Wait hopoo works at valve now 
i can't tell if thats a joke or not
it's not
hopoo feather renamed to gearbox feather
If they do rename those items like ben's raincoat, ghor's tome and a few others i will riot

Hopoo >>>> Gearbox Feather
the mithrix warped echo bug is INTENTIONAL because its a feature put in to punish you for taking such a LAME item
restinpeace hopoo
goodbye hopoo game ):

LMAO
Actually i need to ask
What does anti aliasing even do
To be honest
As long as their passion gets to keep shining in their new project, that's all i care about
As long as they get to keep making what they love i'll be happy about it
i actually don't know
but it does make the game look worse
i'm happy for them
too
it's just that it's sad to see the company as a whole go
even though it's a positive change fo rthem
I guess i'm just too blind to notice
anti aliasing smooths edges by blending pixela
sometimes it can make things look blurry, especially if the game isn't made with it in mind
stares at lategame loops
Right
Blurry edges
Just what RoR2 needs
Hmmmmm i have unlocked the lemurian army artifact... I wonder if i should go for a fun run or play modded, i just need to get my modded fix 
I didn't check anything about the devs but are we already expecting a bug patch soon? 
Uhh they said they are working on it, i didn't see at ETA though 
Well see it soon, preferably after Silksong but I'm fine if its released in my 30s
at least they didn't use TAA, afaik
Foekoe even made a video about ROR2's latest DLC since he liked both the main and Survivors of the Void...
And ooof foekoe wasn't happy about it

yeah, i'm pretty sure it's FXAA
which isn't nearly as bad as TAA
yeah
so whats the general feeling about the dlc here
Also buggy for both the DLC and the main game because of that
only good things are the stages and music
this seems to be the general consensus of most people
there are a lot of dlc features i really like personally
what do you like abt the dlc
i like most of the new items the fact i can end the game one stage quicker and seeker also the new skins are nice
i really like seeker
i also like thats is easier to revive your dead teammates
but i dont think it was enough for a dlc
the characters are good concepts but they really need tweaks to be actually considered "good" to me
though i like the new options to revive people
that's really nice for multiplayer
though the new items suck complete ass
i don't have anything positive to say about them, at all
with the sole exception being sale star and that's it
I would take that blue star and few reds (the one that makes items drop from elites and bosses and that boomerang) and the rest of the items go into the trash
i get that
maybe except the golem doll and that defibrator
yeah im a big fan of those
i have to agree with that
but the dlc compared to survivors of the void is a let down
Right now all the things about the update and DLC made me look around talk about how to tweak the items
heck i swear those antlers could've been a red and heavily buffed, you're telling me that it's a white rarity? 
big time
also gilded enemies have wayy to high of a spawn rate
the antlers look nice thats all i have to say about them
they're supposed to be a post loop elite based on the code lmao
wtf
i think the antlers are the worst item in the entire game
ever added
it's actually purely useless
a idea winter had was to make the antlers a speed item, make the antlers give you shield and when that shield is active give you a speed boost similar to goat hoof
Oh gearfart thanks for making me think those gold elites were ment to show up 
bison steak in question 
-# i actually like steak but everyone says im a troll for it 
just actual peak item concept
i mean its a good item on the new character
I always scrap shield gens, i don't like em since it easily makes you get one shotted from i heard
i mean it's okay to have weak scrappable items
but when every item is a weak scrappable item that's just insane
except sale star and sonorous whispers
but more plasma shrimp range
what i'm not okay is with the white item bloat which means i have so many to scrap and i don't feel like it does anything meaningful compared to watches, topaz and crowbars
what's worse is the scarcity of mobility items
thats only mildly tru
but imo they are worth the risk, youd get 1 tapped either way
the only issue with them is you cant use healing items to heal them
true
finding shit like energy drinks, hoofs and feathers is way harder now
that's terrible
especially since you need mobility so bad for mithrix
I do remember someone saying to change the boisterous lantern to give you a speed boost instead of a damage increase in a reddit post
since he also wants to turn a few items into void as well
i havent done mithrix in a while
bolstering lantern is a item i just dont like much
it's lame
scrap material, infact i really blame gearfart for not doing anything and giving us bloat
even for tex
rex
you don't even stay at 50% hp
true
is that one the one that helps at low hp?
yeah
only 20% too
like not enough for sitting at half
i kinda like its synergy with hellfire tincture, i think more low hp items would be neat but, its still kinda ehh
yeah thats something its alright with
why do so many items need you to take damage to activate
that's like
the lamest thing ever
yeah
éclipse players are so down
What i do know is that the items in SotS are clearly designed by people who have not played the game and it shows 
i suspect its for a high risk high reward kinda style but they forgor the "high reward" part 
the art department cooked though you gotta give them that
they missed the mark on the high reward part so bad
the effects when u take dmg arent even guaranteed
they're just chances
are you serious lol
knockback fin having a 7.5% chance to knock enemies back when you get hit is so insane
its when you hit them
sale stare isnt even useful to me 90% of the time because i play swarms/sacrifice
which is even worse
knockback fin will never be ror1 boxing glove
true
what is ror1 boxing glove
launches enemies in the air
when u hit enemies they get knockback and get launched in the air
which is way more useful in a 2d game
but ror1 and rorr are 2d
so it's way better
and they get stunned in the air for a lil bit
which is good crowd control
i feel like it would be better if it
everyone loves sale star because it's just more macro you can do
actually knocked back the enemies
and macro items are always awesome
make it guaranteed too or something
please it's not that overpowered
they way they made boxing glove not terrible is by making it also do damage
that too yeah
the only upside knockback fin has is that i think it counts as a death mark debuff
but like the similarity i draw is splat3 side order knockback color chips
which could arguably be worse, idk
i dont think it does
and in the og (and to some exstent rorr) you couldnt move so being able to keep the enemies themselves away was super usefull 
not even???? man that's grim
you need around 10 on average to make an enemy take fall damage too
i think the consensus is that sale star is great, runic lens and chance doll are good, and chronic expansion is ok
everything else sucks or is detrimental
the ror1 clover legendary is good too
oh the equipment is just worse dios but i dont like it since i feel like they added too many revives
Warbonds is even worse than the Piggy Bank Saving from ROR1 ngl 
war bonds is proof that at least some of the devs did not play very much of the game
istg
and leveling up takes so fucking long lategame
leveling past a certain point kinda becomes impossible without some insane coper grinding
since the formula to level up rises so exponentially
the lunar makes it so hitting the cap is achievable iirc
the only thing i feel that's eh in both DLCs is two lunar items from each Stone Flux from SotV and Longstanding Solitude from Seekers
makes me go... Why..?

year lunars haven't been expanded much
i think the cooler lunar items are the heretic ones
good concept in general tbh
It seems i'm the only fan who likes Light Flux for having some build strats over Stone way more despite Light killing your attack speed and being bad for those who rely in attack speed, arti likes it for example 
i like this list its about right
i like to pick up light flux on merc i find it really stupid
pyrocinical got to it guys pack it up time to go home
Who is pyrocinical 
hes a youtuber
i also saw that pyrocynical video pop up in my feed and i was like "
what"
The Risk of Rain Situation is Insane
half the video is him ranting about not being able to use his fat furry mods
all of the current videos cover the same topics its a copy paste fiesta
the major bugs ect
Its a big game, i suppose these creators are trying to get views for it 
there's not much to talk abt in the dlc
about the dlc mean
i just didn't expect creators outside of the risk of rain bubble would start to comment on it
if moistcritikal makes a video on this that'll actually be insane
or someordinarygamers or some shit
when are we getting a full vanilla run of eclipse 8 with 144fps and loader?

the wandering vagrant:
moistcritikal ror2 video: Idk whats going on but look at this clip i found on twitter. Btw apparently the main developer didnt get paid for selling the game. But Idk i just saw it on twitter. i actually Dont know what Risk of rain 2 is. Idk. idk. it is wild tho gearbox completely ruined the game. But i actually dont know a lot about the situation. thats all guys bye
i died :(
SAD!
i think clover might affect equipment drop chance on sacrifice
theres so many of them 
WAIT.
THOSE ARE ELITE ASPECTS.
oh yeah aspect drop chance is a little messed up so i hear?
oh i just looked at ur items nvm
:3
dlc ending spoiler. incase anyone hasnt seen it
i heard it was 100x
not like it matters though since they just crash your game on next stage
clover affects exclusively aspect drop chance
yeah but can you tell me how clover makes mithrix do phase 4 in phase 1
(it probably wasnt clover but idk what the HELL it was that was the buggiest fight to date)
the mithrix zooming around the arena 
horrible
true
mae do you also get really nervous fighting mithrix? lmao
i had a really good run that i scrapped a ton early and popped off in stage 5 printers the run felt deserved cause i did a lot of macro
then from a no damage mithrix fight i got hit by a pizza that dropped my health to 50 or something and i had to take a break, i still won, but that shook me to the core 
geez
my apologies for the random ass question though
yeah mithrix is scary af one wrong move and my entire healthbar in move
his moveset constantly closes gaps and applies pressure almost nonstop
its terrifying
i think pizza is his scariest attack
because you know sooo bad
if you get hit you die
because pizza just deals billions of damage
i always dodge it so nervously
god bless one shot protection
you know
that makes a lot of sense in hindsight
oneshot protection doesn't work on mithrix
i only lived because of opal
and it still got me to such low health
the sound design on mithrix's attacks also help this feeling
his attacks feel HEAVY as shit and they WILL one-shot you, this is what it feels based on the sound alone
pizza audio being desynced is funny
fr
Whats worse is even if you survive the first hit it slows you so you cant run from the rest 
it's SO scary lmao
killing mithrix gets me more on edge than playing five nights at freddy's or something
i swear to god
Fr 
Lately I've been playing alot of arti so I'm out of practice against mithrix so its even worse 
-# i do the silly 2 purity, a light flux (?) and a backup mag to give my freeze spear no cooldown and stun lock mithrix
Doesn't do alot of dmg but thats where my merc pal takes the lead 
woe
gilded scorch wurm upon thee
itd feel the same
it does
some of his attacks (mostly in phase 3 with shockwaves and the like) ignore this though because of being multi hits
to amend this i would move chance doll down a tier and boomerang up a tier
also i dont seed of life why is a revive that easily accessible
i swear to god i'm full hp each time i get one shotted by pizza 🙏
although you do have more experience than me so
i gotta look more into oneshot protection mechanics
revives were really scarce base game right
i think only dio and pluripotent larva really
just dios and sotv only added larva
and even then larva can be very punishing on death if you lose your bands, crit, or boss items
yep
maybe i gave mult too much hate
mult is just really good in general
also one of the more mobile characters surprisingly
mult is really good
yay yipee
congratulation!!
-# look at the item counts
aspect bug isn't it?
like and subscribe if you love diablo strike
not really
even in normal runs if you get hit my mithrix's spikes during phase 4 you die
the strategy in phase 4 is to not get hit at all

what??
WHAT
WHAT'S HAPPENING
what in the fuck is causing this?
@inner gull hhelp waht
You immune to debuffs 
i'm so confused??
Thats the only thing i can think of thats happening but i have no clue why 
You don't have Ben's raincoat nor blast shower 
Conga 🐀s ig
/j
Are your bands having cooldown or is it affected too?
bands are normal
lmao
just what is this? seriously
accidentally becomes god
legit achieved immortality how did i do this?? 
its something to do with wultures and voidtouched enemies
i'm guessing it will go away next stage?
if you have safer spaces on cooldown when the voidtouched buff from wultures expires it causes it to instantly refresh
it will yeah
omg thank you i was just so fucking confused
you need to cause an inventory change check apparently at some point to trigger it
also also the bug can happen with mithrix taking it while on cooldown and then it happens when you get it back

i also see they using CHEF in all caps instead of "Chef" just like MUL-T and REX in the patch notes
i still wish they kinda changed the wording from 'enemies' to 'customers' when looking at CHEF's skills tho
inch resting
We got patch
And confirmation that there's plans for more gameplay changes and fixes
Very very nice
yipee! what annoying/game breaking bugs are left after the patch from what we can remember?
There's a couple in these notes like False Son's downslam being weird, that are mentioned but stated to be adressed later
But honestly i feel like all the extremely major stuff is gone now
I hope
I guess people playing in the upcoming days will be able to say if something big slipped by, or if something new came in
Or if one of the fixes failed

To my understanding the more egregious ones were all the FPS things (too many shenenigans from this to count), immortal mithrix, and the damage feedback + healthbar being broken
All this is listed as fixed, so let's hope it worked
For now i should not touch ROR2 until hearing some of the player voices if the bugs have been ironed out...
Rn i'm also keeping an eye in the ROR2 modding server if they really fixed the code and took notes from them about the FPS thing
My biggest hope for gameplay changes I think would be the deathrays and changing the items that do effectively nothing
i hope they add more steam achievements too
it annoys me that the new achievements don't follow the base game's format
every challenge in the game completed = steam achievement
there's like 10 new challenges in the game but only 3 are steam achievements
LAME!!!!!!!!!!
offtopic but i love fighting mithrix as mul-t
so much fun
the low health indicator is back 
i doubt it, because there's currently 121 total on steam, but it could be a steam achievement limit
actually probably not
considering cookie clicker has this ungodly number of achievements
Ya thats my biggest problem
-# mainly bc i haven't experienced most of it. Am waiting on a fren to explore it with me
Ya i was gonna say the master chief collection has like 700 
you should sleep for longer
-# Anyone want to play rorr
i can host steam remote play if you don't own it 
OMG NEW COMMANDO MOVEMENT TECH 
it isnt trimping with roll or long jumping with slide right
Trimping?
its where you launch yourself off a slope
Its like you press jump and immediately after roll and it sends you higher into the air 
Here you go, kinda sloppy vid
this is nice anything to make roll slightly better
Ya, im all in favor of roll buffs
i'm sorry
that's cool movement tech but this feels like a creepypasta recording of a haunted ror2 copy
and this is like commando's spirit moving on it's own
that's pretty cool though jokes aside! 
Lol 
i hope that the bad skills get a buff/rework sometime
I'm playing on steamdeck so i had to hold my phone and do the movement at the same time 
i wonder if they will touch on any base game things
Yah
I'd like to see a huntress mini buff 
does steamdeck have native gyro in ror2 or do you have to do steam controller config bullshit
Ikr
Like its only saving grace is that if you proc crit on it, it does it for the whole thing
huntress is fine if youre not using default special
i will also say triple blink is significantly better for the majority of situations though
it is



