Risk of Rain World

[inner gull]

with item macro being so strong fully optimizing a stage is usually going to result in a higher win rate (not count) than not

[tranquil yew]

I agree with item macroing. But using two hacking beacons allows for far faster looting in early games, and while shock beacon does become more useful the more you loop. If you’re just going straight to mithrix then double hack is better

Apologies for weird wording

[inner gull]

honestly id argue shock beacon being better pre loop (especially in eclipse with 4 and 7 making enemies noticeably harder early game) since you have lower power

shock beacon gives you immediate power that isnt subject to bad item rng

if you find yourself leaving stages with leftover money id suggest trying out 1 shock 1 hacking

[tranquil yew]

Well

How do you loot

Do you instantly teleport after beating the teleporter

Or do you do it half way through

Because I tend to do teleporter last and just leave the stage

[inner gull]

i find myself just doing it after everything else

[tranquil yew]

Then you’re always gonna have left over money

[inner gull]

it wastes some time but difficulty scaling isnt very significant in the vast majority of runs

[tranquil yew]

Me personally I just find the first to stages of my captain runs the hardest. And having a shock beacon doesn’t really help with it as much as a second hacking one

[inner gull]

id really suggest you just try it out

i dont think double hacking is necessarily bad but i also think its heavily overrated when captain has an extremely powerful alternative

[tranquil yew]

Alright I’ll try using it again

[inner gull]

if you want i can run some captain (or most characters really) and stream it tommorow until i finish e7

[tranquil yew]

Sure, what time?

My e8 journey has not been going good tbo

I can do monsoon but I can’t do eclipse

[inner gull]

no idea just ping me sometime around 12 hours from now ideally

also for eclipse if you want to improve watching some eclipse content can help a lot

[tranquil yew]

Ok ya

[inner gull]

race has some really good stuff and explains a lot

[tranquil yew]

I might be busy at that time for me but I’ll see

[tranquil yew]

Tyty

[tranquil yew]

A bit ago I played with someone who had a amazing name

[unreal elbow]

sounds like my type of person

[gritty spade]

No sorry you need to book an appointment first

[unreal elbow]

[solemn fossil]

Any risk of rainers

[solemn fossil]

[unreal elbow]

i am a risk of rainer but i play on ps4 :((

I gotta get better timing, damn

[elfin zinc]

oh my gahhh i'm playing risk of fart 2 and i forgot this thread existed

i love risk of rain

thread should be more active ngl ngl

[topaz quest]

kinda true

alot of the threads died off though sadly

we don't game like we used to

[solemn fossil]

i think the issue with threads is they are so out of the way to get to

[elfin zinc]

yeah i think that's mostly why

when i get around to playing ror2 again i'll post shit here

[topaz quest]

yeah sort of

[marsh grail]

@inner gull https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/632360/view/6890030714194305619?l=english

[inner gull]

yeah i saw

[marsh grail]

27th

:3 :3

well now you can see it again

[inner gull]

i looked over the stuff in the videos starting from here #1179950827750821990 message and here #1179950827750821990 message

anyways im running e7 rex would you like to watch

[solemn fossil]

Unknown

[inner gull]

sots spoilers

[solemn fossil]

I didn't see half of these

Also smort looking at the barrel to see what stage it was

[inner gull]

heres the warped echo image since its not clear

[solemn fossil]

Oh ya i saw that surprising its a white item that sounds op

[inner gull]

maybe?

you still take the same amount of total damage before factoring in repulsion armor plate/planula

and we dont know the tick damage and rate

[solemn fossil]

Ohh... Ok so it doesn't block 50% of the dmg just delays 50% of it

That makes more sense

[inner gull]

[elfin zinc]

FOUR four days

until

peakers of the storm y'all

wtf!!!!!!!!!

[marsh grail]

true

peak

[fair bramble]

gaming!

[marsh grail]

is this peak or is this peak

[solemn fossil]

[elfin zinc]

that's so fucking peak lmao

good job winter

reminds me of doing that but with loader pylons instead

it feels so unintentional

[marsh grail]

is it out

j juzt wome up

wokeup

[elfin zinc]

idk

not for me

[marsh grail]

🙏

[elfin zinc]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xSBYQgX1ry7W9IY5EG4es3BgE_csVrKTSOI3ikrIES4/https/media.tenor.com/uQ3Rxx6GWlkAAAPo/kjaro-band.mp4

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/w9gL6UZfMTckRNyJoGk_L01lldZmQjJv3uZWvoTYlOw/https/media.tenor.com/hIyGMgvQI4gAAAPo/runald-band.mp4

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/hWU3SLS7nhCXJxsDE_86iRDXcv4FzLe6KPDv0O_qEEo/https/media.tenor.com/LiUWKZaQmqkAAAPo/singularity-band.mp4

which one you picking

[fair bramble]

Omg the trio

[inner gull]

tangentially related i believe that you should prioritize kjaros over runalds if you have no kjaros but if you have a kjaro already prioritize runalds

runalds is more consistent but the first kjaros makes phase 4 skip possible

[solemn fossil]

Is it out yet

[marsh grail]

Nah

I need to sleep which sucks cause I'll miss release probably but that's okay

If anyone is gonna post DLC stuff here make sure to spoiler things accordingly

[fair bramble]

it is now :3

[solemn fossil]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[gritty spade]

No spoilers, but just some info, it can be jank at times but it's awesome and some new items are really cool and I'm excited to imagine how they fit into the meta

[dusky wing]

So what are yalls thoughts on this DLC? Dont soil it I am about to buy it

Just want some general thoughts

[elfin zinc]

@misty marten hell naw bro loader's grapple speed is tied to fps now (not my footage)

[elfin zinc]

good, very buggy rn though, very, xbox players literally can't play the game they lose all player data

[dusky wing]

Oh dam

[elfin zinc]

dlc's good it's just buggy as shit, this also happened when survivors of the void came out so

sotv had some insane bugs at launch but it got fixed on the first few weeks

i expect the same for this dlc

[dusky wing]

Yeah, I remember D:

[fair bramble]

[dusky wing]

HUH

[elfin zinc]

mfw

[misty marten]

i saw this too!!!!

so

balance

[solemn fossil]

bruh i had the worst luck possible ||i picked up longstanding solitude right before going to the gilded coast long story short i had no hope of escaping quickly so i quit|| (spoiled for dlc spoilers)

[fresh basalt]

not sure if it's just me but the preformance feels way better after this update

oh gearbox updated the unity version.

mods are so broken

[fresh basalt]

spoilers for new skin: ||this railgunner skin goes HARD||

also they updated the way railgunner's reticle looks
-# (i think)

[marsh grail]

wtf is that damage indicator

[elfin zinc]

IT'S HORRIBLE RIGHT

one of the very few actual BAD things about the dlc

[harsh glen]

OH MY GOD I WASNT PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION TO NOTICE WHEN I WAS WATCHING THAT THE FIRST TIME

[elfin zinc]

i'm downloading a mod that reverts it right away

[harsh glen]

OH MY GOD 😭

[elfin zinc]

IT SUCKS

[harsh glen]

THATS MISERY

THAT. IS. MISERY

[elfin zinc]

you don't notice when you're getting hit

it's so stupid

[fresh basalt]

wait what

i haven't seen that damage indicator while playing at ALL

[harsh glen]

the new directional damage indicator

[fresh basalt]

unless i'm blind

[harsh glen]

go back into a run and try?

[elfin zinc]

i mean that's a option

to enable

what i'm talking about is that, normally, the screen does not flash red anymore when u take dmg

[fresh basalt]

is that why the vingette thing- YEAH

i hate that

[elfin zinc]

your healthbar just leaves a weird ass red bar that slowly dips

pls get a clip of it

[harsh glen]

OH

😭

[elfin zinc]

it's like so ass

so so so ass

[harsh glen]

that sucks so hard

[fresh basalt]

yeah hold on let me go relaunch the game

[marsh grail]

??? why did they touch it

[harsh glen]

fyi i havent played the new update NOR have i bought SotS NOR do i plan on playing ror2 again or buying SotS

if something goes over my head thats why lol

[elfin zinc]

i see

though it's just common sense that having ur screen flash red is better than only your healthbar being affected

[harsh glen]

that change is gonna be so good when it gets reverted /j/silly

[elfin zinc]

IT'S SO ASS

[fresh basalt]

it really is

[elfin zinc]

@harsh glen PELASE LOOK AT THIS SHIT

@marsh grail

!!

why just why

[harsh glen]

THATS CRAZXY

😭

[marsh grail]

So it's harder to know if I'm on low health, great :3

ty gearbox

That HP bar is weird

[fresh basalt]

the entire low health overlay is gone as well i think

[marsh grail]

Is that also the update

[elfin zinc]

it's gone

[marsh grail]

Guh

[fresh basalt]

i mean, the DLC is the update

[elfin zinc]

yes

[fresh basalt]

everyone has it because that's how the lobby thing works

[elfin zinc]

the maingame got a """""quality of life""""" update

[marsh grail]

So if I don'thave the dlc I don't get this?

[elfin zinc]

so..

[fresh basalt]

some of the stuff they did is, actually, good QoL

[elfin zinc]

yeah to be fair it was

[fresh basalt]

the health thing is not

[elfin zinc]

this is my only gripe, really

[elfin zinc]

no unfortunately they updated the game to have this healthbar

the low health overlay is gone too

[marsh grail]

qwq

[elfin zinc]

where your screen turned a bit dark and the general sound got a bit muffled

i'm not the only one that noticed right?

[fresh basalt]

no i noticed it

it makes it so much harder to tell when you're almost dead

[elfin zinc]

i guess it could be hard for visibility but it really did a good job getting the point that you're nearly going to die

[elfin zinc]

why remove something that didn't need any adjustments though?

[fresh basalt]

idk

i did mean that, the overlay not being there makes it hard to tell

not sure if that was clear

[elfin zinc]

yea i get it i just wanted to reply to you

yea this healthbar change is pretty bad but the dlc is good

it's buggy sure but survivors of the void was like that too

if all the major bugs are filtered out i'll say this is pretty good

[inner gull]

there is the issue of that one item let me grab the description

[fresh basalt]

yeah i'm really enjoying it

[fresh basalt]

oh that's horrifically unbalanced

[elfin zinc]

does it actually do that

[fresh basalt]

it's funny, but it's unbalanced

[elfin zinc]

or is it a wrong description

[inner gull]

||also false sons beam attack is incredibly overtuned rn im not sure if its possible to reasonably outmanuever it||

description is right

[fresh basalt]

yeeeah i noticed this

[elfin zinc]

no fucking way

[harsh glen]

i think its really funny how they looked at that item and they were like "yeah this will have no issues at all"

[elfin zinc]

is the right of the fight good though?

[inner gull]

yeah

[elfin zinc]

wooo

[fresh basalt]

||i died to it on monsoon and it felt kinda unfair. and then i went back on drizzle with command on and fucked all 3 phases over in like 30 seconds||

[inner gull]

also one of the new items causes mithrix phase 4 to be completely unwinnable

[fresh basalt]

apparently this is also a thing :/

[inner gull]

not as in "makes it difficult", as in mithrix takes 0 damage

[elfin zinc]

yup heard that you can't buy it from russia

in the ror discord

[elfin zinc]

which wasn't a thing before right?

[elfin zinc]

great

[elfin zinc]

oh yeah only russia is banned, i see

[fresh basalt]

judging by the fact that it says it has no price set i'm not sure if that was a mistake or intentional

[elfin zinc]

i mean mithrix phase 4 was always problematic, i remember ppl NEVER picking up spare drone parts because the drone would just fuck. them. up. in phase 4 mithrix

[elfin zinc]

probably intentional let's be honest

[inner gull]

theres a lot of small changes i really dislike

health bar change, damage indicator change, gap between gold and lunar coins is larger, etc

[elfin zinc]

I KNEW SMTH WAS WRONG WITH THE GOLD AND LUNAR COINS UI

i thougth i was going crazy

[inner gull]

host skipping got patched by the physics change and pot physics are different (idk if this is good or bad yet)

also im inclined to believe phase 4 skip was intended to be patched but i have no real proof yet

[elfin zinc]

i think only time will tell

at least they didn't nuke pot rolling

since it was originally unitentional

[harsh glen]

imagine if they got rid of pot rolling 😭

[elfin zinc]

oh fancy did u know gearbox is owned by taketwo now

[inner gull]

if they do im modding it back in it sucks and i hate it but its so important to me

[elfin zinc]

i don't like to speculate much on things like this, but like, there's certaintly.. some worries to be had

[harsh glen]

uh i did not actually

[inner gull]

im pretty concerned given that the dlc has a lot of issues on launch it might not be successful enough for ror to be deemed profitable

[elfin zinc]

making kjaro and runald exclusive to engineer to the average player would be so ass (solo, i mean the unlock)

[inner gull]

and captain

[elfin zinc]

and captain

[elfin zinc]

yea the dlc launched with some issues

did u know xbox is cooked

like the game doesnt work on xbox

[fresh basalt]

it looks like the base game is no longer purchaseable in russia as well? i can't tell

[inner gull]

loader, rex, and railgunner all also have plate presses but those are more niche

[inner gull]

yeah that post

[fresh basalt]

WHAT

[elfin zinc]

the dlc doesnt work on xbox

and.. with the update, some issues arose

[fresh basalt]

that's. insane

what the hell was QA doing

[elfin zinc]

not joking the dlc doesn't launch on xbox

that's crazy

[fresh basalt]

[elfin zinc]

like actually

[marsh grail]

sorry i was too busy eeping

[harsh glen]

hi mae

[marsh grail]

[elfin zinc]

ppl are just advising to not buy seekers of the storm on xbox rigt now cause it's pretty much a scam u get nothing till it gets fixed

[marsh grail]

yeah i heard it wont go past the menu screen

[elfin zinc]

the poor soul that got their player data nuked cause they plugged another controler

[harsh glen]

i dont have my own emotes but

[elfin zinc]

THIS REMINDED ME

one of the dlc's main things

[fresh basalt]

1.4k upvotes my god

[elfin zinc]

is that it will have split sceen coop

imagine the poor souls wanting to play splitscreen

[fresh basalt]

oh right yeah

[elfin zinc]

plug the controller

and GONE

[harsh glen]

😭

[fresh basalt]

is that on PC too? or just PS5 and XBX

[inner gull]

death penalty for having friends

[elfin zinc]

i believe the issue is only on xbox (or console ports in general, however we don't have any proof for stuff like playstation or switch so we shouldn't make conclusions rn)

[inner gull]

i should stream this run i need to talk about the dlc

[fresh basalt]

the health indicator changes are probably my biggest gripe personally

making the game un-purchasable in russia is, assuming it was intentional, not only a dick move, but also an idiotic one

[elfin zinc]

likewise i think that just makes the game worse

[elfin zinc]

well.. risk of rain is now afilliated with larger companies

take two of all companies too

so...

[fresh basalt]

is there background here i'm unaware of

[elfin zinc]

nop

at least i don't know

my thought process here is that bigger companies like taketwo might be more involved in these sorta things

and more willing to do moves like these

[fresh basalt]

ahhh yeah

reddit comment says that the base game and DLC1 have both been un-purchaseable in russia for a few months now

[fresh basalt]

i can test this on my switch

i don't have the DLC though

*on switch. i bought the dlc on PC

-# also i'm tired right now and won't be doing that yet

[velvet terrace]

what is this thread

[fresh basalt]

the risk of rain thread

[velvet terrace]

oh ok

[dusky wing]

This is the Rain World alternative thread, cant believe Videocult turned this game into a roguelike smh

[amber falcon]

i played as seeker in my first new dlc run and i just got hit by a stray from an elder lemurian and DIED because i had shaped glass

[dusky wing]

The horrors of running a shard of glass

[fresh basalt]

elder lemurian moment

[dusky wing]

Having no one shot protection is a horrible moment

[fresh basalt]

i got nuked by a voidtuched blind pest earlier

[dusky wing]

Also I am under a permanent loading screen when using mods so I have to go modless D:

[fresh basalt]

mods are broken rn because gearbox updated the unity version

[dusky wing]

HUH?

Dam

[fresh basalt]

also general game updates can break mods as well

[dusky wing]

Well yeah I remember that, the last patch completely ruined the skin mods for Merc (My main :( )

I cant use Sceptile skin mod D:

[fresh basalt]

HookGenPatcher and BepInEx Pack are the only two things that are working right now, afaik

(they both got updates)

[amber falcon]

LOL

well i guess we have to wait 3 weeks for mods to work again

:3

[dusky wing]

Even then most of the mods wont work either way

[fresh basalt]

nvm 5 other mods got updated

[dusky wing]

Wait ROR2 just wont load in general D:

Ok nvm fixed

:D

[fresh basalt]

but. yeah. 99% of mods won't work for a bit

[amber falcon]

name them

[fresh basalt]

hold on

HUNK (survivor mod)
ZioConfigFile
BubbetsItems
HitboxViewerMod
DropItem

[dusky wing]

Holy crud first item for Merc is Wungus, we are eating good!

[fresh basalt]

anyone wanna do multiplayer

[solemn fossil]

So i found a couple new bugs

Idk if its just bound to captain but when using the knockback of his primary (which seems to be more effective then normal) you can shove enemies through walls...
Also if you hit the friendly beetle guard (from the beetle Queen drop) via Diablo strike it will target you forever despite not being able to dmg you (the beetle guard was someone else's so that could be why it turned on me )

Otherwise i have been enjoying the dlc vewy much
|| I like the new shrines that lets you revive players despite their rarity and i also like having another supportive character to play (seeker(?)) ||

[fresh basalt]

||WAIT WHAT ONE OF THE NEW STAGES IS A STAGE 5||

[inner gull]

ive been enjoying it besides ||false son laser||

[fresh basalt]

||looks fuckin awesome too i love the lava cave asthetic||

[inner gull]

||theres the worm corpses and they look awesome||

[fresh basalt]

slightly goofy build

||this is cool. i like this.||

[solemn fossil]

When theres spoilers your not supposed to click but you want to so bad

[fresh basalt]

f e l t

FUCKKKKK

i entered the teleporter instead of ||going through the green portal||

[solemn fossil]

[fresh basalt]

my build is insane so i should be fine but like

ughhhh

[solemn fossil]

although i think there might be a bug with tps IK i hit reg tp but it sent me through blue instead of to the moon

[fresh basalt]

41 crowbar

[solemn fossil]

-# also maybe spoil ||green portal|| for those who haven't encountered it

[fresh basalt]

aa ur probably right

WHAT.

im just kinda angry now that was a bs death

[fresh basalt]

CHAT LOOKINGGLASS GOT UPDATED WE'RE SO BACK

[inner gull]

theres this one chest on gilded coast that has a fucked up interaction range could be related

||im worried that if the path stage 2/3/4 are optimal item/loot wise that you will almost always want to go there if playing optimally||

[tender river]

no way risk of rain worl

👍

[marsh grail]

I got to play around in the dlc Can confirm I'll definitely be getting it once they fix / a mod comes out for the health indicator, cause rn my playstyle is really mentally flawed due to it

[elfin zinc]

yea

i'd say when most of the stuff gets fixed/tweaked then dlc's a banger

i'd like for || the false son survivor getting some updates too, he's really underwhelming right now and his animations are suuuper wack||

[marsh grail]

y cant i reroll my items

this is so stupid i cant reroll anything lmao

come to think of it i dont think i could use any equipment in my previous runs either

i just throught it bugged

[marsh grail]

[elfin zinc]

omg they broke recycler

noooooooooooo

[marsh grail]

just died to a hermit crab cause i couldnt see that i was being damaged by it

infusion = red healthbar so thats even worse

i hate it

please bring back the overlay

[marsh grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP0KsUrS04k

thats not a bug thats just latency

the simplest way to fix it would be to just make them client side

[inner gull]

you can enable a worse one in settings

[marsh grail]

i dont want that one

it looks gross

[inner gull]

me either

[marsh grail]

just hope they do listen to the community

idk gearbox well enough but ive heard mixed things about their practices

[inner gull]

if we have to downpatch its so over

[marsh grail]

😭

according to woolie mod devs are just gonna be developing on a previous patch

since apparently its a mess

[marsh grail]

@scenic bough

[inner gull]

even outside of the entire game not functioning a lot of people dislike the changes to ui and most of the dlc content

[marsh grail]

Yep

I don't understand why the felt the need to change them

Some of the changes are super good QoL

[elfin zinc]

take two is very trigger happy

[marsh grail]

Like the teleporter pings / particles ect

Why did they have to touch the UI

[elfin zinc]

imagine they do something because the dlc didn't profit well enough

[marsh grail]

Who was complaining lol

[scenic bough]

The UI changed?

[elfin zinc]

it SUCKS grah i could go on a rant

[scenic bough]

I haven't noticed the differences

[marsh grail]

It sucks so much I lost a run cause of it lmao

Damage sounds don't play, no indicators, HP bar is fucked

[scenic bough]

I played like 7 runs with a friend and nothing felt really broken

[marsh grail]

It's horrid

[inner gull]

health bar, damage effects, that weird gap between gold and lunar coins that i hate

[elfin zinc]

that fucking bird that i hate

[scenic bough]

My healthbar worked fine, the indicators seemed to work fine

[marsh grail]

LMAO i was just thinking that

[scenic bough]

I am confused now

[elfin zinc]

#1173166641530556506 message

here

[inner gull]

my healthbar takes a full business day to catch up

[elfin zinc]

take notice at the hp bar

[scenic bough]

Ohhh that's what you mean
Okay i understand now, i did notice this

I was wondering what was up with that

[inner gull]

it feels like the devs got rushed at some point

[marsh grail]

According to Tulin btw the game does try to load the damage indicator

[scenic bough]

Didn't really cost me much though because chip damage is rarely what kills me
More often than not i die to the many one-shot threats the game has

[marsh grail]

In the console it claims to try to load a "health damage overlay" with an error

[scenic bough]

But yeah it still felt very playable to me

[inner gull]

from the dev diaries they seemed like they actually cared so id guess its a higher up issue

[marsh grail]

So I have no idea if that was a mod or just they really broke it unintentionally

[elfin zinc]

it's still very playable

[elfin zinc]

higher ups my biggest fear

[marsh grail]

It's playable for sure, it's just not what I want to play

[inner gull]

if you pick up a certain white item you cant beat mithrix because his hitbox in phase 4 no longer loads

[elfin zinc]

talk about the most insensitive inconsiderate people on the planet

[scenic bough]

Ah

that is a bigger issue

Which item is it?

[elfin zinc]

simply don't pick up that item 🧠

which item is it?

[marsh grail]

Sorry I need more money I don't have enough

[elfin zinc]

there's also the fact hte game doesnt work onxbox

[inner gull]

warped echo

[scenic bough]

I guess fair

[marsh grail]

Music slaps, visuals slap, new stages slap

But the items need balancing and the UI needs fixing and the bugs need fixing

[scenic bough]

Hopefully hotfixes happen soon then

[elfin zinc]

NOOOOOOOOO

i really liked that item!!

[inner gull]

a lot of the beam attacks also dont function at all and never hit you

[marsh grail]

According to Woolie warped echo also doubles the damage you take 😭

[inner gull]

outside of the new one which always hits you

[scenic bough]

Personally i'll still keep having a blast with my friend

[elfin zinc]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOL

[marsh grail]

Yeah sometimes it's just 100% + 100% (i have no source)

[scenic bough]

looks at my last run killed by a celestine golem
They worked fine to me

[elfin zinc]

warped echo is such a good concept why did they fuck it up

[inner gull]

i mean the continuous beams

[scenic bough]

Aurelionite's laser also worked just fine against me

[elfin zinc]

1 stack of warped echo gives the other half of the damage 3 seconds later, and medkit heals after 2 seconds

such a great synergy

and they FUCK IT UP

[inner gull]

they move in stutters

[marsh grail]

[inner gull]

wait what fps are you on

a lot of issues are fps dependent

[scenic bough]

No clue, i just have my laptop and i never looked into PC specs

[inner gull]

the further away from 60fps you get the more fucked up the game gets

[scenic bough]

Right
I have like just a standard laptop so i doubt i'm going to the 100+ range

[marsh grail]

Yeah you can keep doing that, I'm still gonna play it it's just upsetting that this kinda stuff made it past QA ect

It's more so just frustration at like "how do you let it get this bad and then choose to release it"

[scenic bough]

Yeah That's very understandable
Bugs staining a good game really, really sucks

[marsh grail]

I'd have gladly waited another month or 2

[elfin zinc]

give it 4 years, it should be good to play then

(real)

[marsh grail]

The sad part is with gearbox thats priobably true LOL

It's not priority to them, people are buying the DLC

They're making money

[scenic bough]

I remember how much i complained about deathglitch in rainworld before remix came around so i understand hating bugs like that

But yeah i do hope we get a hotfix update soon then

[elfin zinc]

it'd be so funny if the chef skin was just claptrap from borderlands

[scenic bough]

Until then i'll keep trying to unlock the second new survivor with my friend

We have been
Struggling
Because we're really rusty at the game

[marsh grail]

:3

[inner gull]

ror2 hit peak player counts yesterday

[marsh grail]

I've been getting into the eclipse grind

[marsh grail]

I can imagine

[inner gull]

ive been struggling and i was doing e8s two days ago

[marsh grail]

Shits hype

[inner gull]

all the small changes to things like physics and ui have been really messing with me

[scenic bough]

Yeah for my own deaths i can't blame UI
We usually either loot too slow and get outscaled, or make a mistake and get deleted

Gotta relearn the maps and everything

[elfin zinc]

how many new achievements got added?

[inner gull]

three

[elfin zinc]

three!!

i imagine for unlocking 2 of the new survivors and one for the final boss??

iirc seeker already comes unlocked right

[inner gull]

but theres like 10 that exist in game

[scenic bough]

Plus the funy broken achievements marked "testachievement" that somehow got into the release

[scenic bough]

Yeah seeker is unlocked
I've had fun with them

[inner gull]

one for the equipment, one for the artifact, two for survivor unlocks, one for each of three survivors alternate skill, one for each survivors monsoon skin

oh theres also 13 more for every non sots survivors new skin

[elfin zinc]

these all should be added to steam

wtf

[inner gull]

seekers fun but i feel like she might be too multiplayer dependent

[elfin zinc]

i think she's a bit underpowered

[inner gull]

or barrier/healing dependent so she might end up being another rex

[elfin zinc]

i thought her m2 would deal way more dmg

and her tranquility too

[inner gull]

450% damage for performing a whole stratagem sequence

its for the heal mainly

[elfin zinc]

does it heal you too

or just allies

crazy how you gotta do a whole helldivers minigame to heal while viend just presses a button

[inner gull]

you and allies

i dont mind seeker being weaker but i didnt expect it

[elfin zinc]

i like the new items not being too overpowered

(other than that specific red item)

i care abt the balance of the game

[inner gull]

actually an issue might be that they arent strong enough

ive heard that finding damage and speed is much harder now

[elfin zinc]

fact......

there arent many damage or speed items

[inner gull]

they added one damage white and red along with half a damage green

and zero mobility items

[elfin zinc]

thats fucky yeah

[inner gull]

outside of the fuck you win the run red for the most part most of the items feel like theyre just going to be scrap most of the time

[elfin zinc]

i wish they just added more damage and speed items

[inner gull]

i will die on the hill that is items that are generally just scrap being healthy for the game but when almost every item here is like that i think its going to hurt the overall balance

[elfin zinc]

that just do the same thing

we just have more of them

[inner gull]

||also early speed is even more important since you only have 3 1/2 stages to prep for false son||

[elfin zinc]

SPEED is just super fucking important

if you can't get mobility you lose

[inner gull]

sotv added mocha which was a big deal

[elfin zinc]

i doubt they add new items

we might be cooked with this new balance

[inner gull]

i can see a community patch made that changes some of the items and content

[misty marten]

i really dont get prime meridian???

you kinda just go there and die

liek die immediately

unless you rush STRAIGHT past all the chests

the balancing seems way off in the dlc

every single run i have gotten to prime meridian without an issue, typically steamrolling through the bosses in like 20secs

and then i just go there and die

[fresh basalt]

i think the big issue with ||prime meridian is the lightning. there's far too much of it and it does too much damage||

i play almost exclusively with sacrifice and swarms, so i can't speak to the chest issue

[inner gull]

mobility and damage items are harder to get because of the new items

||the only two damage items that are good are chronic (doesnt do much against bosses and takes 10 kills (20 on additional stacks) just to be equal to most others) and runic lens (heard its good but i havent played with it yet)||

[inner gull]

||aurie geodes cleanse you of the debuff and give barrier if you werent aware||

[fresh basalt]

ohhhhh so thats what those do

[misty marten]

icl the dlc is not inherently bad but this has been a disastrous launch

[inner gull]

its not inherently bad but i feel like theres some flawed design with a lot of the items

most of them really dont do all too much which hurts the entire item pool by making what you want harder to find

[fresh basalt]

yeah

[scenic bough]

Hey quick question
Anyone knows how in the name of the slugtree i'm supposed to deal with ||false son's deathray||
||the cover is so tiny that whenever i move to dodge the other threats on the field i feel like i just die, because i immediately enter line of sight again||

||be it golem shots or thunder from the sky||

[fresh basalt]

||pretty sure you literally just have to line of sight it right now (get behind something)||

||it needs a balance update||

[scenic bough]

||i guess i'll just stack armor repulsion plates and pray whenever i visit this guy||

[elfin zinc]

yo guys

insane reveal

many of the new bugs with the dlc were also a thing on console, for a long time, this means: because gearbox updated unity and the codebase for risk of rain 2, all versions are the same, they like brought the fucky and fucked up console ports to PC

so it got all of the bugs console had

and we know how bad risk of rain 2 is on console

however i'm not that upset on that because the codebase is unified at least

they can bring patches to ALL versions at once

[scenic bough]

Does that mean the scaling is fucked right now?

I remember console scaling being straight up broken according to console playing friends

[elfin zinc]

ppl are saying scaling is fucked yeah

on pc

welp :3

[scenic bough]

Well then
I guess that explains why every looped run i've done with a friend ended up in disaster
I thought we were just playing too slow

[misty marten]

i think at this point i might get a few skin unlocks i like and straight up disable the dlc content after LOL

for the time being anyway

because afaia the skins stay with the dlc off

the new items really suck for the most part and most of the new content is stuck to the colossus path

[scenic bough]

Wait
Are the console fire elites active on PC rn

I have heard horror stories of those

[misty marten]

what is the difference? :0

[scenic bough]

Their fire trail does ludicrous damage

The kind that kinda just deletes you on the spot at high scaling

[marsh grail]

[marsh grail]

Would they?

All of the DLC content is disabled without the DLC

Unless there's an in-game option to turn them on or off

[misty marten]

yeahh i think i have noticed that

[scenic bough]

A lot of things are starting to make a lot of sense now that i'm told we got console jank

But to be fair i'm willing to deal with it if it means they actually patch this mess for everyone afterwards

[elfin zinc]

i hope they patch it out for everyone

tweak some things

and bam

we win

seriously

[scenic bough]

I do feel that maybe it should've been communicated before that they were doing this though

[misty marten]

i dont think any of this was done on purpose, more out of laziness

[scenic bough]

Also quick question
Does console happen to have brought jank relative to ennemy spawns?
They feel like they are less consistent and come more in bursts now

[misty marten]

i get swarmed at the teleporter event by wisps

[scenic bough]

I mean
Unifying a codebase has to be a conscious action right?

[misty marten]

has thar happened to you

[misty marten]

unifying a codebase without patching out all the gamebreaking bugs on launch...

[scenic bough]

Outside of the wisp family event i got yesterday, i didn't notice many wisps
But also i'm playing huntress so i do not notice wisps a lot

[elfin zinc]

at least it's unified

if they don't act on it i die

[misty marten]

eh it being unified doesnt really affect us tho righr

i HATE CONSOLE PLAYERS!!! /j

(/srs)

[elfin zinc]

no but it helps out console peeps that have been suffering

for who knows how long

[scenic bough]

I mean, personally i'd be happy to see console players finally get the fixes they deserve

Even if i'm not one myself

[misty marten]

yea that is fair

[scenic bough]

So yeah i really hope they actually work on fixing it now

[misty marten]

i was under the impression there was what the BALLS

after looking

[elfin zinc]

not only do i want the bugs out i also want to tweak some items

[misty marten]

ther isnt!!!

[elfin zinc]

and animations

[misty marten]

can we agree the new items suck

almost all of them imo

they feel modded

[elfin zinc]

they do

deer antlers is up for one of the worst items in the entire game

[scenic bough]

Some of them i don't really understand why they exist
Like knockback fin
Why?

[misty marten]

have you seen knockback fin

i think it might be THE worst

[elfin zinc]

deer antlers has a CHANCE to deal damage back to the enemy that hit you, and it's proportional, so big hits of damage = more dmg to the attacker

15%

that's so ass it's unbeliavable

stop making on hit items

[misty marten]

thought it was a guarantee to knockback enemies and i was like this SUCKS
then i realised its a 7.5% base chancr...

[marsh grail]

Yeah 😭 It'd have been too good to be true

Unfortunately you do need the DLC for everything

[elfin zinc]

make items that you can strategize and be proactive

[scenic bough]

The base game ones were decent but the ones that came after are mostly scrap
Like
Medkit i find fine, i don't mind heals after a mean hit
Razorwire is usually eh but it has combos that go hard

[elfin zinc]

that's why literally everyone loves sale star

[marsh grail]

Ooh a bunch of APIs got updated

RoR2 API is still deprecated though

[misty marten]

just turned on the new damage indicator

[misty marten]

its different

[scenic bough]

Hmmmm yes thanks for the double rusted chest

[elfin zinc]

it's so ass

[misty marten]

swr

[elfin zinc]

at least these are guaranteed lol

unlike dlc items

also some animations are really wack

[scenic bough]

Ah well i'm still having fun with my friend so i'll take it i guess
The maps are fun, the OSTs are good
So i'm willing to be patient for polishing to be added afterwards

[elfin zinc]

i have the same sentiment

[scenic bough]

stares at the miniboss that spawns from the haylcon shrine

[elfin zinc]

good dlc, just really needs some fixing and tweaking right now

[elfin zinc]

please it turned into like these tf2 skeletons

fuckin into the spiderverse animation

[scenic bough]

At one point the thing turned off for me

As in

It stopped reacting

Just stood there

At around 2/3rds of its hp it finally woke up

(Which because scaling that took like 30 seconds)

[elfin zinc]

gee 💔

because of regional prices

it's really expensive for me

so i'll probably wait a lot before playing the dlc

[scenic bough]

Rn my main complaint besides the general jankiness would be that moon forsaken ||death lazer|| from ||the False Son||

[elfin zinc]

it's way more expensive than sotv for me

[scenic bough]

I hate that attack

[elfin zinc]

true

it's like the same as the laser from stone titans

make it like the voidling laser or something

idk if it's just me but the fight isnt all that good

[scenic bough]

But more damage, the cover is awful and the boss also moves towards you

[elfin zinc]

animations look wack, fhe just walks around not doing anything

then death lazer

[scenic bough]

I'd rank it between mithrix and voidling
I still dislike voidling more

[elfin zinc]

i thought he was going to have more melee attacks

like mithrix

[misty marten]

my opinion of this has actually been just depreciating since yesterday

this is

so poor

the game is FUNDAMENTALLY BROKEN

on release

how does that get past playtesting

[scenic bough]

Part of me feels like if his animations are fixed maybe he'll be better at melee?

[elfin zinc]

he doesn't even swing his club much at all which is sad i wanted him to beat the shit out of us instead he just spawns fuckass pillars and lazers

[misty marten]

his laser is weird

its the only thing i have died and keep dying to

[elfin zinc]

calm down tho, sotv also released like this

the game was blown up

[scenic bough]

He does have melee moves but he feels like he struggles to actually use them

[elfin zinc]

shit were exploding everywhere when survivors of the void came out

[scenic bough]

Notably he has ||a teleport into melee slam||
Honestly in many ways he feels like a remade mithrix

I still like mithrix more though

[misty marten]

same

[scenic bough]

But hey at least i don't dislike him as much as voidling if only because the blueprint he took from is decent one and the style points are there

[elfin zinc]

he isn't agressive at all

mithrix has a lot of closing the gap moves

he doesnt

he just slowly walks towards you

[scenic bough]

He does have a teleport into slam
He just uses it too scarecely

The teleport manages to fulfill the same purpose as mithrix's dash, he just needs to actually use the thing

And again part of me feels like that may be because janky animations?

So my hope is maybe bug fixing would give him more hostility

[elfin zinc]

he has super jank animations

[scenic bough]

Because like the haylcon guardian thing is the same

He does have the moves to attack you

He just

Doesn't use them

And instead does kinda weird stuff

Also today i found out if he dies while spinning the hitbox lingers above his corpse for the remaining duration of the attack

[elfin zinc]

https://youtu.be/dDuWWkjCeJs?si=cPjYFuIs45jJnOCX&t=257

[scenic bough]

Which led to a silly surprise yeet

[elfin zinc]

just look at this shit lool

the laser is so stupid

WHAT IS THAT LASER LOL

[misty marten]

i am likely being a bit to harsh but what is mainly bugging me is that something feels entirely off
i am getting dropped under 10% hp by blind pests on stage 1 despite my typical efforts and while i am not that good at the game i have never been THIS BAD like this never happened before the dlc

[elfin zinc]

scaling is fucked up on console

so

[scenic bough]

Yeah it is really dumb
Honestly my only plan against it is stacking armor repulsion plates and praying

[elfin zinc]

even then

it deals too much dmg

[misty marten]

have you yet to beat him too

[elfin zinc]

unless you stack a billion RAPs

[harsh glen]

WHAT

[scenic bough]

Basically yes
Only won twice
Once my friend carried with loader after i died early
The other was on a command run because i wanted the shiny skin
I tried legit solo attempts
They all died either to laser or because of lazer

The problem is that the cover is so miniscule

[elfin zinc]

ITS SO STUPID LOL

[scenic bough]

Moving anywhere to dodge means the laser gets you again

And then your health melts

So you kinda choose between
"Stand there to hide, get blasted by golems and lightoing"
Or
"Dodge the attacks, laser sees you again and destroys half your health within half a second"

[misty marten]

atleast i know im not skill issuing lol

[elfin zinc]

less than half a second i think u just die instantly

[scenic bough]

So yeah the only plan i have is really just stacking armor plates, choose option and pray

[scenic bough]

Not quite on runs that aren't looped into 3 layers of hell
(Mind you i'm a huntress player so i'm also really squishy)

[elfin zinc]

that dude only lived because he got invisible at low health

cause of an item

stealth kit meta it saves you from instant death

[scenic bough]

But it's still way excessive damage

[harsh glen]

i remember being like "im gonna buy the new dlc the moment it comes out!!!" and then i stopped playing ror2 and now that its released its the digital manifestation of the nasty patty foghorn sound effect 💀

[scenic bough]

I mean i'm still having fun with it

[scenic bough]

The way it goes is usually the laser chips me for short bursts of time when trying to dodge other stuff
Over the course of one laser attack that adds up to most of my hp, and then i die to the next one
It's not insta death, but it's enough that it feels super opressive

[harsh glen]

ok im not denying its fun but like from a coding and QA standpoint jesus christ

[scenic bough]

Fair

[elfin zinc]

clearly rushed

i don't it had much QA

you literally not being able to kill mithrix is crazy

he doesnt have a hitbox phase 4

if you have one of the new white items

[scenic bough]

Does it also prevent his self damage?

[harsh glen]

[elfin zinc]

yes

[fresh basalt]

the only reason i have even beat the new boss is because i went onto drizzle with sacrifice, swarms, and command, built an INSANE railgunner, and nuked it before it could even deal damage. all 3 phases were dead within seconds

[elfin zinc]

he...

doesnt have a hitbox he cant get dealt damage

[scenic bough]

Me and my friend managed one actual rainstorm win, though to be fair he carried because i died early
Now we're trying to bring the haylcon seed there

The problem is that we need to get lucky for that

Since gilded coast is luck

And once we do get lucky we need to survive

[elfin zinc]

you can also visit the bazaar every stage

there's a chance to dream the gilded coast

[scenic bough]

We did get that lucky roll once

Problem is with the fucked scaling it's really hard to survive long

Anytime we loop it goes to shit because the scaling goes nuts

And then after all that we need to not get deathray'd

So yeah this might take us a while

[elfin zinc]

pretty sure a lot of community patches will come out

i HOPE gearbox takes help from the community

pleasseee

[scenic bough]

I guess time will tell how it goes

[misty marten]

mfw i take the teleporter by mistake instead of the green portal and there is nothing i can do to stop it

[elfin zinc]

fart issue

ok i wont be mean that happened with me a billion times

me see teleporter me activate

[misty marten]

LMAO i saw an orb around this teleporter and thought i was saved but its the BAZAAR ONE

[elfin zinc]

the director is tied to the framerate devboo

LMAOO

oh my god

the director is what dictates how many enemies spawn etc etc

higher framerate = the faster the director is

this is actually insane

please cap it at 60 fps if you don't want to get nuked every run

[scenic bough]

Wait what

[misty marten]

so you are telling me with the assumption that 60hz is the base framerate i have been playing on 2.75x enemies

what the

BALLS

[elfin zinc]

everything is tied to fps

[scenic bough]

Is this new jank or old jank?

[elfin zinc]

i believe this is new jank

[misty marten]

huhh i bought this 4 days after release
but i think i barely played it lol so i never experienced the bugs

[scenic bough]

Does that mean if you purposefully tank your framerate you get less ennemies

[elfin zinc]

yes

[scenic bough]

Toaster PC meta

[elfin zinc]

you must be wondering where i got his information

race's discord, a ror2 youtuber

[scenic bough]

I'm kinda assuming people have dug through the game to understand why the jank

[elfin zinc]

the team of modders (who are making community patches) are finding out that a lotta more things are related to fps, including the director

[misty marten]

extremely ironically i realised i had been playing on 60hz only a DAY before the dlc

by mistake

[elfin zinc]

and that's the reason scaling felt really off

arth my fps has been capped to 60 for
for idk how long
what the BALLS!!!!

[misty marten]

arth my fps has been capped to 60 for
for idk how long
what the BALLS!!!!

[scenic bough]

And how does that work ob multiplayer then? FPS of the host?

[elfin zinc]

no clue

they're finding out that anything over 60fps explodes your game

[misty marten]

man

does the fact i have been getting to the last stage almost consistently mean i have improved then???

LOL

||prime meridian||

[elfin zinc]

i guess you became The God Gamer

having the "Unlimited fps" option on just blows up your game

[misty marten]

arth i have

had that on

):

because there isnt a 165

[elfin zinc]

your game is getting blown up

[misty marten]

do you think there was any playtesting

[elfin zinc]

brother.......

i think minimal playtesting

[misty marten]

"dude my loader is feeling AWESOME!!!!!!"

[elfin zinc]

it was rushed so they decided to launch without doing much QA

[misty marten]

the shadowdrop was so unnecessary

[elfin zinc]

lmao they just didn't beat mithrix and didn't play loader while play testing

"fuck loader in particular"

[misty marten]

im gonna go ahead and

join that discord

wait hold on

arth are you dming the youtuber or does he have a server

[elfin zinc]

it's not race's server

i messed UP

it's disputed origin's server

idon't think race has one?

i mixed them up...

[misty marten]

ohh ahaha

[misty marten]

i was watching the end of his stream yesterday and he said something along the lines of "this dlc is really fun and despite some bugs my worries have been alleviated"

cue today

lmao

[elfin zinc]

IMPR actually idon't think i can say that

yeah

disputed origin says in that video that because of the bugs his opinion about the dlc lowered a lot

[misty marten]

whar does impr mean

[scenic bough]

Thanks for all the info btw

Explains a lot of weird stuff

[misty marten]

yea thank you lord arth

i had heard of a lot of it but didnt really get the implications

especially "the director"

[scenic bough]

My friend's PC is an absolute beast, whenever i ran with him the game felt 3x harder than on my own

Now we know why

The director was on steroids

No wonder we could barely even use a scrapper without getting assaulted immediately

[elfin zinc]

hope this all gets fixed soon

[elfin zinc]

seeker is broken too in terms of reviving ppl iin mulitplayer

[fresh basalt]

how did they fuck up that bad

unity has DeltaTime for a reason

they said "fuck you unstable gameplay experience if your FPS isnt locked at 60"

i can't always even get 60 fps

[elfin zinc]

so many things are tied to fps that it's somewhat ridiculous kek

even sounds are tied to fps

plasma shrimp gets like sped up and fucked up the higher fps u have

[fresh basalt]

that explains why the sound shits itself when anything is happening

ffs

[elfin zinc]

oooh this is peak

the game is suuuuuper expensive to me rn because of regional prices

[fresh basalt]

oh that's good

glad they've done that

[elfin zinc]

soon enough it's revealed your LIFE is tied to FPS

if you play at HIGH fps you age 40x faster

don't play risk of rain 2 at 3 am

[fresh basalt]

[elfin zinc]

oh god so happy

before it was 60 brazilian dollars

now it's the same price as sotv

[elfin zinc]

hope this all gets fixed soon

what a mess!

can you agree that the actual content of the dlc is good?

i mean for me it's kinda, the enemies, boss and items are wack atm, def some tweaks need to be done

however the maps are AWESOME i really enjoy the stages

[fresh basalt]

yeah 100%

i love the content

[elfin zinc]

amazing job on the maps

the rest is kinda mid

needs tweaks

[fresh basalt]

the maps are great yea

everything else def needs balance and tweaks

also there should be a setting in vanilla to disable the AA that they added

https://thunderstore.io/package/pein/RiskOfRain2BlurFix/

this should not be a thing that you have to get

especially because AA is so expensive graphically

[marsh grail]

love seeker dash

oh

music just stops if you go to logbook

for the stage

okay

[elfin zinc]

can it just stop LOL

help

every run has a shit bug

[solemn fossil]

this is huge. This means cross play isn't a far off dream

Also is there a ETA for bug fixes yet

[fresh basalt]

not sure

tbh if i had to guess the framerate BS might have something do do with the codebase merging

you can expect a console to preform the same under most circumstances, so it's not as big of a deal

[inner gull]

i like the majority of the content besides the items

[fresh basalt]

and so the console port may have had non-deltatime calculation

[inner gull]

the items are really bad for the most part which is a massive deal since theyre integral

[fresh basalt]

and instead of fixing that or using the PC code they just left it
that's just a theory a game theory so i could be wrong. but that's the most logical conclusion i can come to rn

[inner gull]

also all the characters are weird in some way but idk how much of that is bugs and how much isnt

[marsh grail]

hehe

[elfin zinc]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

YOU HAVE WARPED ECHO MITHRIX

😭

mae you're doomed

you poor soul

mae...

[marsh grail]

guh i died

weeeh there goes an hour

[elfin zinc]

you were doomed to fail anyway

[marsh grail]

i had the damage but i got greedy and stayed too close

[elfin zinc]

i was like that one breaking bad clip

oh tenor isnt allowed

[marsh grail]

what would it have done

[elfin zinc]

anyway NEVER pick up warped echo on mithrix on current patch

it REMOVES mithrix's hitbox making him INVINCIBLE on phase 4

and it's just over

it's impossible to win

his self dmg doesnt work either because he just doesnt have a hitbox

[marsh grail]

that sounds messed up

[elfin zinc]

it is

once mithrix gets warped echo say bye to your run

[marsh grail]

i feel like that should desperately fixed

its a white item too lol

imagine the amount of people its screwing over 😭

[elfin zinc]

not fixed yet unfortunately

[marsh grail]

[harsh glen]

do you know about what happens if you connect another controller on console mae

[elfin zinc]

on the fucking update that introduced couch coop too 😭

[marsh grail]

what

[elfin zinc]

so many poor souls

[harsh glen]

Connecting another controller on console wipes all of your progress.

[elfin zinc]

oh my god

[marsh grail]

what happens LOL

[harsh glen]

All of it.

[marsh grail]

LMAO

[elfin zinc]

so many poor souls

that just lost of it all

[harsh glen]

gone

[elfin zinc]

it's ALL of your player data btw

EVERYTHING gets wiped

[harsh glen]

All of it.

[marsh grail]

how does that even work 😭

[elfin zinc]

idk

but it's a thing that happened a billion times

[harsh glen]

not a fucking clue 😭

[marsh grail]

maybe it detects the new player as a new save and overrites it

[elfin zinc]

the ror2 discord is brimming with ppl coping over losing all of their progress

[marsh grail]

thats the only idea i have

thats so fucked

[elfin zinc]

and reddit

[harsh glen]

also my only guess

[elfin zinc]

punishment for having friends

fucking wipes all of your player data

[harsh glen]

winter put it extremely elegantly

[elfin zinc]

you know wthat walter white clip wher he's like "HANK, HAAAAAAANK, HAAAAAAAAAAAANK" behind the car window

yeah that's like me screaming to littlejimmy42 to not plug the second controller on the family xbox

[harsh glen]

TENOR'D

let me try again

Damn

[elfin zinc]

me watching like "NOOOOOO DON'T PICK UP WARPED ECHO" and like "NOOOOOOOO DON'T PLUG THE SECOND CONTROLLER"

my warnings were in vain...

there was nothing i could do..

[harsh glen]

[ancient goblet]

the dlc is bad

[misty marten]

mfw i realise isaac repentance is CHEAPER than sots

[misty marten]

im sorry but the more i play this the more it sucks

really doesnt help that you get the same stages every time you play the new content

and once you get past them you have to fight a mega unbalanced final boss...

damn the rating has changed since yesterday

[elfin zinc]

was mostly positive when it came out

kek

[misty marten]

then it went to mixed

and now mostly negative

i feel almost everyone's opinions have changed over the days since it came out

[fresh basalt]

it was very cool the first few runs and then you notice The Bugs™️ and it gets. worse

[marsh grail]

Yeah everyones realizing all the garbage past the flashy new look

[scenic bough]

Basically the more we play the more we notice the jank

[misty marten]

for reals

[fresh basalt]

it really needs polish to be better

[scenic bough]

Like a lot of the bugs are not easy to notice in one or two runs
But after a dozen you start to feel just how fucked the jank is

[fresh basalt]

exactly

[misty marten]

and getting the same (small) stages every time gets old quick

[elfin zinc]

i mean i like the alt path and the stages

from what i've seen they don't feel all that small

[misty marten]

even if this dlc gets patched people are just going to unlock what they want and then forget about the path of the colossus

[scenic bough]

I still think there's a lot of good in this DLC
It just really needs bugfixing
Might wait a while before i commit to doing more completion

[elfin zinc]

i just wish the path of the colossus was more rewarding

with the final boss etc

[fresh basalt]

agreed. bugfixing and balance changes

[elfin zinc]

i mean tbh path of the colossus gives you more items

and you can come back to regular stages