Risk of Rain World

[crimson oxide]

oh thats loader i couldnt tell you

[harsh glen]

i like thunderslam

also no more ror2?

[fossil valley]

gimme like

idk 20 minutes

[fossil valley]

sorry i forgor i have therapy 😭

[harsh glen]

oh damn lol

uh

have fun? idk

im fine with no more ror2 thats okay

[fossil valley]

????????

wdym have fun lmao

[harsh glen]

yeah i dont know either just like yeah i dont fucking know at all im gonna be honest ive got nothing

its 30 past midnight

does that explain it?

im tired so i say stupid shit chalk it up to that

do the therapy and know im chill (like that matters in the first place since its THERAPY you're doing)

[fossil valley]

wtf are you waffling about

[cursive beacon]

it's ok. depending what type therapy it is, it can be fun

[harsh glen]

my bad

[cursive beacon]

even though confronting and unravelling my personal struggle is difficult, i nonetheless had a good time hanging out in my therapy group

[harsh glen]

im sure the reason that you're in therapy isnt jolly but that aspect of it does sound fun

[fossil valley]

can somebody help me unlock characters

[cursive beacon]

what are you trying to unlock?

[fossil valley]

the ability unlock things and these characters

[cursive beacon]

oh yeah i can help

[fossil valley]

[cursive beacon]

can't help with void fiend i haven't gotten it myself

[fossil valley]

do i need you friended

[cursive beacon]

yes but we already friended when playing lethal company

set up a room and i'll join

[fossil valley]

i already did

[cursive beacon]

do you want to unlock rex or acrid?

or loadout

[fossil valley]

uhhhh

rex

should probably play a different char lol

[cursive beacon]

basically you want tanky chars

oh shit

i actually did the same over and over unlocking rex

it's kind of a ror community meme at this point

[fossil valley]

@cursive beacon

[inner gull]

who are you playing as

[fossil valley]

i was playing as loader

we got to the void crab fight

[inner gull]

you 100% wanted hardlight afterburner as loader

[fossil valley]

and died bc it showed up three times for some reason

[fossil valley]

yea i got it for both it was awesome

[inner gull]

wdym it showed up three times?

[fossil valley]

like we killed it three times

the boss

[inner gull]

yeah it has multiple stages

[fossil valley]

they all seemed the same tbh

ok what acrid is really fun

[cursive beacon]

yeah acrid is pretty busted because the poison dot is a percentage of monster health

also acrid is an early-game melee late-game ranged character

[fossil valley]

[fossil valley]

what do people mean when they call the survivors "squishy"

[cursive beacon]

low health

some characters like huntress has very bad max health growth from leveling up

[fossil valley]

@dusky wing hop on uhhh idk dbd

[dusky wing]

I just woke up from the best nap ever. I'll be on in a sec

[fossil valley]

i cant play now tho

[dusky wing]

When are you available then?

[fossil valley]

tomorrow

[dusky wing]

Nice, I'll go play some killer then

[fossil valley]

[dusky wing]

[inner gull]

just slid through a magma worm and broke my watches

[inner gull]

commando e5. clover cauldron on moon yeah

[harsh glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0c1UFvA4Rw

chris calm down please

[gusty mulch]

I can help

[fossil valley]

it was unrrlated dont worry

[dusky wing]

I'm online rn

I'll join in a sec

[fossil valley]

im not playing rn silly

i have school

[dusky wing]

[rigid wedge]

ive got alot of options huh

i can choose either bear or bear which one?

[fossil valley]

hop on helping me unlock rex and voidfiend later today pretty please @dusky wing

[inner gull]

i might be able to :>

[fossil valley]

i thought you didnt want ror2 coop bc lag

[inner gull]

im like genderfluid but instead of gender its if i feel like ror2 coop

you have to call out items or ill cry tho

[fossil valley]

good analogy /s /lh

[fossil valley]

i always do dont worry

[gusty mulch]

[fossil valley]

does ror2 have a workshop

[inner gull]

no

[fossil valley]

sad

@gusty mulch hop on ror2

[gusty mulch]

[gusty mulch]

hopping on

[fossil valley]

FOR EEL?!

[gusty mulch]

yes

[fossil valley]

thats so sloggers bestie

[gusty mulch]

[fossil valley]

@inner gull

[inner gull]

2 and a half hours

[fossil valley]

[inner gull]

@fossil valley how much longer can you play btw

i mean yknow what i mean

[fossil valley]

i dont know what you mean

[inner gull]

how much longer will you be available to play for

[fossil valley]

until 9

est

[inner gull]

ok noted

[fossil valley]

@inner gull me and gorilla are playing soon if you want to join

[inner gull]

soonish

[fossil valley]

what does that mean

[inner gull]

idk 30 minuges

[dusky wing]

Im on rn

[fossil valley]

i have thing open

or do you want me to join

[dusky wing]

Idc

Join the post mordem vc

[fossil valley]

is cryocharge any good

your audio is fine

no

railgunner

yea!

@gusty mulch gifted it to me :3

even tho i specifically told her not to

@inner gull here

[dusky wing]

@cursive beacon Wanna join us??

[cursive beacon]

was about to ask

let me hop on

[fossil valley]

on commencement i have these items

oh noo

[fossil valley]

@dusky wing sorry i cant play more till tomorrow

thanks for playing

[dusky wing]

Alr, we are getting void fiend tmmrw, in Simulacrum, which is more fair and fun

[fossil valley]

lol ok

[inner gull]

@fossil valley can i stream a run for you sometime so i can convert you to item macro

[fossil valley]

i dont know what that means but yes

[inner gull]

the big part is waiting to see if you get recycler, cards, or tricorns before you do some things

like leaving bad reds on the ground until youve checked every equipment source for a recycler

theres also scrappers and printers but those need less explanation

[gusty mulch]

[harsh glen]

better than supercharge imo

i use it over supercharge

is that even what its called?

the default special, that thing, i prefer the alt special 👍

[ocean glen]

I never got the praise for cryocharge

[harsh glen]

i like frees :)

[ocean glen]

I know you can use it to pillar skip and it doesn't trigger cooldown after firing but the damage is so much worse

[harsh glen]

frees :)

[ocean glen]

And I don't feel like freeze makes up for it because most bosses are immune to it

[harsh glen]

i mean yeah

also "most bosses" all bosses besides mith

because mith is a little bitch that can be frozen despite being the final fucking boss because ??????????????

[ocean glen]

Yeah

But hey, at least it's not as bad as alt utility

[harsh glen]

def special users and alt special users teaming up to bully alt utility mann vs machine trailer

was it the mann vs machine trailer

i think its but idk tf2 good so

[harsh glen]

my brain accidentally wrote its instead of it is

thats staying

[cursive beacon]

Freeze is not that useful but no downtime is pretty nice

Default's reboot can be played around using mobility but if you have issues surviving using mine then cryo is a good choice

But yeah the damage difference is just insane, especially considering that atg and band scale on this damage

[ocean glen]

Yeah never really had issues with the downtime

Also gives me a reason to pick fire rate as railgunner

[fossil valley]

it dies anyway with 60 times damage i actually prefer supercharge

as long as you hit a weakpoint which is pretty easy

otherwize 40x damage

tbh i dont end up using either that much at all bc at max it only does double damage and disables attacks and charges for more time than it would take to get two normal perfect shots and do the same damage

[elfin zinc]

no way

[fossil valley]

nor fucking way

[inner gull]

id say its better given freeze is one of the strongest effects + the lower damage isnt that bad given you can make up for it by making additional shots in the lack of downtime

[fossil valley]

but why freeze them if it dies instantly anyway

[inner gull]

its better for crowd control, things you dont one shot, and mithrix

[fossil valley]

you can freeze bosses???

[inner gull]

mithrix can be frozen but other things cant

[fossil valley]

oh

i mean ill still try it

idk if i would prefer it tho

[fossil valley]

somebody stream ror2 im bored (pretty please with a fruity on top)

[crimson oxide]

i wouldnt mind

@fossil valley

[fossil valley]

awesome

where

[crimson oxide]

i dont feel like talking if thats ok so probably levels

[fossil valley]

i dont have audio anyway

[fair bramble]

i gave my drone the frenzy equipment and now i feel powerful

[fossil valley]

engi!

funny m1

[fair bramble]

i get frenzy almost every second this is so funny

[fossil valley]

sloggers

[fair bramble]

my second engi run (i already love this character)

[rigid wedge]

wait wdym give drone equiment?

or is that an engi thing

[fair bramble]

found a equipment drone on the ground and payed for it before reading the name

[fossil valley]

literally all of the chars are so based idk how they managed to do that

[rigid wedge]

ohhhh forgot equipment drones exist

[fair bramble]

so true they have so unique playstyles

[fair bramble]

no worries

[amber falcon]

have you tried looking for bungus

[fossil valley]

what characters do you have unlocked

[fair bramble]

haven't found any

[amber falcon]

dude

you should totally look for more of em!

have you noticed that your turrets just

don't move

[rigid wedge]

the one time you actually want bungus

[amber falcon]

THEY CAN TRIGGER THE BUNGUS EFFECT!!!!

[fair bramble]

idk the names so forgive me -> shotgun with invisibility, bastion from overwatch and engineer

[fossil valley]

they inherit all if your items

[amber falcon]

bandit mult and engi

[fair bramble]

yeah i thought about that but haven't found any bungus

[fair bramble]

[fossil valley]

i know who you are talking about except bastion who tf is that

[amber falcon]

its mul t

[fossil valley]

ok

[amber falcon]

gues the character by me describing it

[fossil valley]

i wish railgunner had an unlock

[fossil valley]

ooh fun

[amber falcon]

IS THAT PURPLE GU

[fossil valley]

what

[amber falcon]

go on

guess

[fossil valley]

voidfiend

that one is too easy

[rigid wedge]

william freddy five bears pizza?

[fossil valley]

@amber falcon

[fair bramble]

what the scallop bungus is so good as engi

i knew i would have the mushroom but not the turrets

[fossil valley]

turrets inherit ALL items

[inner gull]

turrets dont inherit a few items

they cant use any active equipment effect even with gesture of the drowned is the big one

[cursive beacon]

Did artificer get buffed at some point?

Since the dlc release

[fossil valley]

https://youtu.be/dRmUdmrUPgs?si=AXvDusFrYnTwLiHF

[cursive beacon]

Ironically commando also has the hardest time using band

The only character in the game that can't proc band using the default loadout

This also makes shuriken especially good on commando for procing bands

Truly the most Sisyphus character of them all

[inner gull]

phase round can proc bands

[fossil valley]

@dusky wing @fair bramble and @paper lava wanna play in an hour or so

[dusky wing]

Not rn, doing something on a different game

[fossil valley]

i literally said in an hour not rn

[dusky wing]

Yes, I will not be on in an hour

Probably for a few hours

[fossil valley]

oh ok

i mean uhh

[fair bramble]

Sure

[fossil valley]

[gusty mulch]

WTP?? (what the plum)

[cursive beacon]

Through piercing bonus?

[left seal]

i am going to rimsk the wain

[fossil valley]

i love railgunner i love railgunner i love railgunner

[gusty mulch]

I think she loves railgunner

[left seal]

OMG SAME!!!

[fossil valley]

maybe... hard to tell

[fair bramble]

[inner gull]

[cursive beacon]

Yeah that's true

[fair bramble]

ohhh this looks cool -spoiler: ||TC-280 Prototype||

[paper lava]

im STILL IN SCHOOL

[fossil valley]

[paper lava]

give me 1-2 hours

[fossil valley]

@fair bramble ready when you are for some ror2

@pseudo inlet you should join >:3

unless you are in a run

[fair bramble]

i'm ready rn

[fossil valley]

coolsies

are we friended on steam?

[fair bramble]

i don't think so

[fossil valley]

1415554427

there

[fair bramble]

1206399547

[fossil valley]

only one of us needs the code but ok lol

[pseudo inlet]

oh uhm

i was gonna play some modded but sure ill join

[fossil valley]

you dont have to

[pseudo inlet]

gimme a sec

[fair bramble]

okay hold on the game says it needs crossplay epic off

[fossil valley]

guh??

[fair bramble]

the epic/steam crossplay

[fossil valley]

wait wtf cryocharge doesnt disable weapons after use

sloggers

[pseudo inlet]

yeah

[fair bramble]

can you send the invite again

[pseudo inlet]

its lower damage but more consistency

[fossil valley]

you dont need an invite to join

[fair bramble]

here?

[fossil valley]

right click on my steam profile and press join game

i believe

[fair bramble]

it wasn't there lol

thanks

oh the survivor that i unlocked was artificer i'll maybe test it out

[fossil valley]

whyd you leave :rivglape:

[fair bramble]

WAIT I THOUGHT BACK MEANT UNREADY

sorry

[fossil valley]

no worries

[pseudo inlet]

are u gonna wait for me

[fossil valley]

yep!

eta?

[fair bramble]

what's eta?

[fossil valley]

basically means "how long"

[fair bramble]

oh

[fossil valley]

ermma

but heres the emma

[pseudo inlet]

eta is NOW

[fair bramble]

[cursive beacon]

why play game when game plays itself

[left seal]

rain has been risked

i got obliterated by a beetle guard on stage 7

[fair bramble]

omg sorry i tried getting a better connection and lost it

[pseudo inlet]

o isok!!

[cursive beacon]

i just realized what this something is

[dusky wing]

Yep lol

Its actually really really fun

[gusty mulch]

remember y'all, always take benthic bloom when using artifact of chaos!

[fossil valley]

@spark igloo hopping on jellycar worlds

[spark igloo]

awesome

[fossil valley]

GO TO SLEEP

[spark igloo]

YOU PINGED ME

[fossil valley]

I DIDNT KNOW IM SORRY

[spark igloo]

i was already on my phone

[fossil valley]

[spark igloo]

but you cant ping me and then tell me to slee

you either dont ping me or dont pretend like you didnt want me to respond

[fossil valley]

i just did

[spark igloo]

❌

[fossil valley]

i pinged you THEN learned that you went to sleep (allegedly) so when you clearly werent asleep i told you too 😭

sorry

[spark igloo]

[cursive beacon]

[pseudo inlet]

qhar

[fair bramble]

[pseudo inlet]

strike !!!

🎳

[fair bramble]

if i find a fuel cell 3d printer i'll go insane with it

[fossil valley]

@harsh glen ermmm i know i said i didnt want to but can you show me how to mod

also do i need to unlock void thingies bc i never find them?

[cursive beacon]

they are just rare

now i see why people praise crusted key so much

[fair bramble]

just to make sure, is this cauldron asking for a red item just so i can have bungus ?

[ocean glen]

Yeah

[fair bramble]

lmao

[ocean glen]

One red for three whites

Or was it 5

[fair bramble]

oh several bungus

makes sense

thanks

[ocean glen]

You're engi and one of your reds is nearly useless on mithrix, might as well

Nvm wrong turret

[fair bramble]

is the other turret better or is it a loadout/situational scenario?

[ocean glen]

Both are fine I guess but I prefer default one

Better for procs and bungus value

[fair bramble]

okay

[inner gull]

its three yeah

also both turrets are good default makes better use of shurikens and bungus alt makes better use of frost relic, genesis loop, movement speed items, more im forgetting

also comes with a built in debuff

[ocean glen]

I haven't even used them enough to notice they benefit from speed items

[inner gull]

theyre actually pretty good you should try them out

really youre only missing out on shuriken cause you get wungus instead which is much better for your survivability usually

and even then turrets still use it pretty well

[ocean glen]

Idk, I feel like things like bleed don't work that well on alt turrets either

[dusky wing]

@cursive beacon I JUST BEAT JUDGEMENT AS ROBOMANDO.....IT DOESNT HAVE A SKIN!!!!

[cursive beacon]

wow for real?

[dusky wing]

Yeah :(

[cursive beacon]

literally unplayable

i had the same response beating monsoon only to find there is no log for it

[dusky wing]

It wasnt that bad, I went for a crit build and it was amazing

[cursive beacon]

yeah exactly

it's quite doable

i also went with crit build

[dusky wing]

Also I have something I want to say

This is guranteed at this point

Artificer is 4x worse than Robomando

How the hell is a magic sorcerer worse than a damn toy?

[cursive beacon]

i think i got pretty far with arti

might be the stage before providence

wanna see me stream it?

[dusky wing]

Not rn, Im saving my energy for tmmrw

[cursive beacon]

understandable, having fun grinding

[dusky wing]

thx

[cursive beacon]

actually do you have a raid team?

[dusky wing]

For Destiny?

[cursive beacon]

ye

[dusky wing]

I never have a consistent one

and I usually just play raids to sherpa them to newer players

I like dungeons the most though

Since I usually get to chill out and mess around with them\

And also I try to get the solo flawless things on them, really fun

[cursive beacon]

i used to have some semi-close-friend groups to raid with, but i couldn't find enough people that's ok with blind raids

[ocean glen]

Did you cheese the brooch?

[dusky wing]

The who?

[ocean glen]

The spawn a chest active

[dusky wing]

No

[cursive beacon]

lol that one takes too long

[ocean glen]

Probably still faster than me trying to beat robo legit

I'm not even gonna bother, that primary fire is awful

[cursive beacon]

yeah you can forget about its m1

[dusky wing]

It wasnt that hard though

[dusky wing]

I mostly used the m1 near the end actually

It was pretty powerful with the crit and numerous amounts of on hit

[cursive beacon]

that's when you have the build

because you still need m1 for on-hit

[ocean glen]

Yeah I couldn't even survive early game

[dusky wing]

Ohh for the early game then yeah you mostly use the zapper

[cursive beacon]

but in the beginning, just kite enemies into a clump and hit them all at once with zap

you get very competent dps this way

[dusky wing]

"Just play good" (jk)

[cursive beacon]

also derailing a little i think railgunner also degrades into m1 spam in late game

[ocean glen]

You mean sniper?

[cursive beacon]

ror 2 railgunner

[ocean glen]

Oh

Can't relate

[dusky wing]

I like the alt m2, it allows you to spawn it a lot more because of that

[ocean glen]

Unless you build for m1 use I guess

[cursive beacon]

by m1 i meant the smart rifle

[ocean glen]

I want to like it but that perfect reload bonus from default m2 is just too good

Plus it boosts special

[dusky wing]

I meant the cryo charge shot, not the actual m2

The aim down site is amazing

[ocean glen]

Not a fan of cryo either

[cursive beacon]

that's not m2

that's r

[ocean glen]

Yeah

[dusky wing]

Ik, I just remembered earlier but got too lazy to correct myself

[cursive beacon]

noob much?

[dusky wing]

But yeah I prefer aiming down rather than m1

And I prefer cryo over the other charge shot

[ocean glen]

I guess cryo is better for general use

But I prefer a funny boss one shot

[cursive beacon]

also sometimes you can just forfeit both m2 #1173166641530556506 message

[dusky wing]

Oh did you get void fiend?

[cursive beacon]

yeah

[dusky wing]

Nice

[cursive beacon]

died a tragic and enigmatic death at wave 70

[dusky wing]

Should have just dodged

[cursive beacon]

truly a skill issue moment

/srs

[harsh glen]

Glad you came around
#1173166641530556506 message

[marble pawn]

@bitter saffron

[bitter saffron]

[gusty mulch]

Refart

[fossil valley]

hmpf

@harsh glen is extrancting the same thing as unziping

im gonna mess this up ;-;

[gusty mulch]

Yeah, when you unzip a file, you extract the stuff from it

[harsh glen]

What rat said

[fossil valley]

what is the mod that lets me save in runs

WITHOUT ads

hhmmmmmm

[harsh glen]

First one

Second one is for the first one and a different mod to have better compatibility

[fossil valley]

[fossil valley]

@dusky wing stop streaming hop on ror2 /j

also which shift for merc is better i cant tell :3

[inner gull]

both are good

[dusky wing]

Regular shift if you want a pure melee style like me

Alt shift if you want the melee hybrid style like how Rin plays

[inner gull]

alt utility exposes, has a further range outside of combat, does more damage (when factoring in expose), and works better with m1 extensions

[fossil valley]

the expose is really yummy

[inner gull]

default utility has more i frames and gives you more control in combat

[fossil valley]

ik 900% is more than 700% but i think id like alt more

[dusky wing]

The other shift allows you to have more i-frames and gives you more utility for melee builds

[inner gull]

its 300% x 3 vs 700% + 350%

[fossil valley]

oh

[inner gull]

cause expose

[fossil valley]

that does damage?

[inner gull]

yeah

adds 350% base damage to the hit and reduces all cooldowns by 1 second

its mercs strongest source of expose imo

[dusky wing]

The issue with that build imo is that expose is already easy to proc if you know how to utilize hitbox manipulations, so thats why I like sticking to the pure melee build

[inner gull]

given that it has a large range and multi hits

[dusky wing]

But its far more risky and relies more on your ability to position properly and not get hit

[inner gull]

if you do an m1 extension against 4 enemies you already reset cooldown completely

[fossil valley]

the mod didnt save D:

[inner gull]

tldr try both utilities

secondary should always be default because of trimping and better m1 extension

and then its usually default utility + default special or alt utility + alt special

[fossil valley]

how do you unlock scythe

[inner gull]

do a prismatic trial

[fossil valley]

how

also are either of these the areas to do the fuel array thing

i cannot tell

[inner gull]

no

[fossil valley]

fuck

[inner gull]

youre looking for abyssal depths

[fossil valley]

;-;

thank you

omg finally i unlocked rex

anybody wanna play

[fossil valley]

no

what does the altar of gold do

[elfin zinc]

never played the game but searched it up for you

"gives the player a tremendous amount of gold and places a Gold Orb on the Teleporter. This Gold Orb will enable the Teleporter to create a Gold Portal after the player beats the boss."

"The Gold Portal will send players to a secret area." and this too i guess

[fossil valley]

it gave me zero gold but ok

it actually gave me negative gold

[elfin zinc]

wtf!!

[rigid wedge]

robbed

holy shit loader does alot of damage

[amber falcon]

so first one totals to 900% damage, second totals to 1050%

[inner gull]

yeah

[amber falcon]

my glass cannon ass is clearly taking the 1050

also considering the 1050 is more consistent

[fossil valley]

@harsh glen

[harsh glen]

i wanna but like im with someone else rn my bad

[fossil valley]

🐱

[harsh glen]

actually ill ask

you wanna join with him?

someone you dont know

[rigid wedge]

as soon as someone mentions it i find an altar of gold

never found one before

[amber falcon]

do it

do it

[rigid wedge]

FUCK YOU GAME

[amber falcon]

hey man

there's nothing wrong with playing on easy if you're having a hard time

[rigid wedge]

yeah but its mean :(

[fossil valley]

what counts as a "multikill"

[harsh glen]

just multiple enemies in a short time frame

which btw my friend left im down to play

[fossil valley]

nice

im trying to get some achievements if you wanna help me with that

[harsh glen]

im down

achievement grind in this game was actually so good

loved it to death

@fossil valley what mods are you running

[fossil valley]

just save

[cursive beacon]

Is losing crit worth it for viend to pick up lost seer lens?

[harsh glen]

probably not

[inner gull]

no

[cursive beacon]

Got it. Thanks!

[fossil valley]

what the fuck

why is it like this

[harsh glen]

fnuuy

the alts are all plant abilities and the primaries are robot abilities

you can see all the primaries start with "DIRECTIVE:"

plays into the lore of rex being cabbage + robot

[fossil valley]

thats actually really neat

[fossil valley]

@marsh grail playing for fun now if you wanna join

i wanna try acrid

[marsh grail]

okiee in a bit just finishing up foods

[fossil valley]

that works out actually

i was planning on showering lol

but i got too risk of rained

[marsh grail]

lmk when youre done then :>

[fossil valley]

ready :3

@spark igloo is hotline miami actually good

[marsh grail]

oki

can you resend me an invite

[spark igloo]

ive been playing it for 0.00000000000002 seconds

its fun so far

[fossil valley]

❌

what genre even is it ive heard it a fruitillion times but nothing about it

[fossil valley]

done :3

erm.. what the gup?

[marsh grail]

just reloading using another mod profile since i think i had some server side mods on

[spark igloo]

top down beat em up or something

i dunno

[marsh grail]

gungeon ripoff

[fossil valley]

i probably wouldnt like that

[spark igloo]

:true:

mae you literally gifted it to me

[marsh grail]

:3

[fossil valley]

that was me in a mae costume

[marsh grail]

TRUE

[spark igloo]

why is your name krill problem instead of krill issue

[fossil valley]

they are synonymous

[spark igloo]

but krill issue sounds better

poggers

[fossil valley]

ok fine

[spark igloo]

:3

[fossil valley]

:3

mae where are you are you still joining

[spark igloo]

:3

[fossil valley]

:3

[marsh grail]

okay give me a bit gotta reload

why is a dependancy incompatible arent those client sided

[fossil valley]

the only mod i have on proper saving idk if that information is important

[spark igloo]

:3

[marsh grail]

no dw about it all i have is better ui and item desriptons

send a new inv

[marsh grail]

what are you :3ing abt

[spark igloo]

:3

[fossil valley]

:3

[spark igloo]

what ARENT you :3ing about

[fossil valley]

SO TRUE

[marsh grail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/291184728944410624/1114418088390164480/EXCITE.gif

[marsh grail]

?

[fossil valley]

what happened

[marsh grail]

@fossil valley did you close the game LMAO

[fossil valley]

no?

im still playing

it says you left

what the fart

[marsh grail]

wtf 😭

[fossil valley]

QHAR

[marsh grail]

okay :3

[fossil valley]

@marsh grail didnt even say bye 😭

[marsh grail]

i need to go gelll

[fossil valley]

thanks for playing

it was fun :3

[marsh grail]

ill be free after if you want more otherwise ill be around a few hours

yee

[fossil valley]

oh yea sure

i thought you were done for the day

[marsh grail]

nyo i just wanna gel before i forget

[fossil valley]

slay

[marsh grail]

that ambry was so cursed

a million wisps and 0 aoe

my worst nightmare

[fossil valley]

well acktually piercing is technically a form of aoe

:3

can we do a prismatic trial next run :3

[marsh grail]

you should try them solo

and maybe with merc so you can get his alt

[fossil valley]

why solo

i dont even know how to get to it

[marsh grail]

(i dont like prismatic trials :3)

[fossil valley]

are they smelly

[marsh grail]

theyre 5m anyways max

no not rlly

just very boring

omly reason you do them is for an unlock

i dont remember what

[fossil valley]

harvesters scythe

which is why i want to do it

[marsh grail]

aah yeah

itll take you 5m

[fossil valley]

ill do it another time

[marsh grail]

poki

[fossil valley]

lmk when yoy ready

woah theres so many girl medicine

i got curious and looked up other forms of hrt

[marsh grail]

hehe

its fun

[cursive beacon]

@inner gull how long does a stage usually take? considering that you go max-loot

[inner gull]

7-10 for stages 1-3, 10-15 stage 4, then stage 5 its usually like 10-20 mins

[cursive beacon]

got it

i'm 5-min rusher so i don't know much about max-loot

currently trying out this playstyle

do you always go for desert band?

[inner gull]

completely ignore how much time it takes for looting

items > time in 99% of scenarios

if i think ill be able to get them without it taking 10 minutes yes

[cursive beacon]

max-loot is probably better now since the loot pool became bigger for you to loot the right items

rushing used to work really well in 1.0 imo

[inner gull]

i think its always been better

[marsh grail]

wait what when did this change

i swar you used to say time was better

[inner gull]

also make sure you exhaust all equipment sources before opening multishops and picking up bad reds/boss items

[inner gull]

i never did i think

[marsh grail]

erm :3 insane i think

[inner gull]

youre looking for recyclers, cards, and tricorns

[cursive beacon]

i used to rush stage 2 void field in like 8-10 minutes and enjoy the free exp and loot

[inner gull]

also dont be afraid to not use a tricorn if the boss is bad and you dont have a recycler/boss printer

[cursive beacon]

especailly if i really want to beat loopless mithryx

[marsh grail]

@fossil valley im all ready

[inner gull]

i dont go vields because it takes so long, its not fun, and i feel like if i get through vields i have already won basically

[cursive beacon]

yeah it gets tedious

[inner gull]

also cause i dont go to bazaar

[cursive beacon]

they changed void field anyway

yeah that too

[fossil valley]

:3

[marsh grail]

:3 loading game rn 1m

[fossil valley]

erm how

thats a long time

[marsh grail]

might be to do with their abilities

ive never touched merc so idk how tough that is

[cursive beacon]

it's mostly spamming expose to reduce cool down so you can stay in air

[paper lava]

git gud

<3

[cursive beacon]

with alt m2 and alt special you can do this itemless, but alt special itself is even harder to get

[inner gull]

i forgot alt secondary is real

[marsh grail]

do syringes do anything for bandit? @inner gull

[inner gull]

faster reload

also faster animation for special

[cursive beacon]

iirc it also raises m1 speed cap

[marsh grail]

ah cool

so it does work

[harsh glen]

just like go to the top of rallypoint delta and use a shit ton of your abilities thats it

backup mags help too i think

[marsh grail]

bandit is so fun wtf

idk why ive avoided them so much

[fossil valley]

idk what region that is tbh

[harsh glen]

yknow where theres the massive shipping container thats like vertical

opposite side of the map from the like cliffface where you can fall off the map

theres where i mean by the top

[marsh grail]

@fossil valley gup jumpsvare

[fossil valley]

literally spawned in me

[marsh grail]

LOL yeah

[harsh glen]

strawberries..........

[fossil valley]

the fucking save mod doesnt work on simulacrum

dammit

crying

[marsh grail]

simulacrum doodoo anyways :3

[dusky wing]

Gups are very funny, they are not a huge threat as a ranged character when you are prepared but as a melee character you are basically digging your own grave

[marsh grail]

yeah, when i was monsooning with acrid i found them really scary

practically just kept my distance and spat at them, very rarely would jump

[dusky wing]

Yeah

Playing merc against them was agonizing

Imagine dealing with them as Mul-T pure melee

[ocean glen]

Playing merc just in general was agonizing

[dusky wing]

I really enjoy merc

[ocean glen]

My least favorite survivor

[dusky wing]

They are a fun character to play and are really powerful if you know how to utilize them

They are my best comfort pick, can consistently beat e8s and harder modded difficulties with them

Second would have to be Void fiend, past that Im not really the best at the other characters too much

[ocean glen]

Merc e8 took me the longest

Much longer than rex even

[marsh grail]

hey qyestion

for bandits "15 lights out in a row"

is it like just use the ability in a row resetting every time, like am i allowed to shoot enemies down to low health and then use it and keep stacking it like that

or is it a matter of only using the ability

[dusky wing]

You have to kill 15 enemies in a row with it

[ocean glen]

You can use other abilities

[dusky wing]

Yeah

Just make sure not to miss your Lights out

[ocean glen]

Just don't miss kill shots with lights out

[marsh grail]

okay cool

so this is fine? if so then im at like 12 now
only if its not interrupted by killing an enemy normally

[ocean glen]

You can kill enemies normally too I believe

[marsh grail]

awesome

its desprado unlock right

[ocean glen]

Streak resets whenever your lights out doesn't kill

Yeah

[marsh grail]

itd be cool if the stacks didnt dissapear or at least

not fully

i dont think ill be a desperado user

[dusky wing]

Everything is on the table, just when you use your lights out all you have to do is to kill someone with it 15 times in a row, you can kill normally with other abilities and items just hit your kill shots

[ocean glen]

Desperado is already busted, doesn't need to be any stronger

[dusky wing]

Be careful, it is an ability that makes you drunk with power, I have lost some good friends to desperado

[marsh grail]

okay nvm i was much closer than i thought it was, ty for the help :D

[dusky wing]

(Its just a really really good power, I highly recommend desperado)

Desperado's attack increase is multiplied AFTER everything else, so you get some really really really really high numbers

[marsh grail]

i feel like id be spending too much time stacking it

ooh

[dusky wing]

You wont really too much

[marsh grail]

okay that does sound powerful

[dusky wing]

Just make sure to hit it when you have the ability up

[marsh grail]

okie

[dusky wing]

And by the time you go to the portal you will already have like 10 stacks

Which is a 2x damage buff as it is

[marsh grail]

:D

wait im goated (bandit is so good WTF)

granted poly was helping but still

[dusky wing]

Bandit is a very foonny killer

I love them

[elfin zinc]

wait i'm boated

[marsh grail]

they are very fun

[ocean glen]

Yeah free crits and triple jump in default kit is strong

[marsh grail]

hopefully this monsoon run is the one

💥

[elfin zinc]

it really is that shrimple

[cursive beacon]

kinda crazy that caffeinator can't press the desert plates

[dusky wing]

@elfin grove this is it

[elfin grove]

Thank you so much!!

[fossil valley]

for me it was "for 15 times in a row, when you shot your lights out, it was a kill". its pretty easy

wait nvm you unlocked it already my bbad

[marsh grail]

:3

[fossil valley]

what are these items

[marsh grail]

hooks, shrine thing, and ego

[ocean glen]

Third one is funny you should pick it

[fossil valley]

NO

[marsh grail]

no

[fossil valley]

i know its awful

[ocean glen]

Game winner

[fossil valley]

what do they do i mean i never pick up lunars

[marsh grail]

hook changes your utility into a dash that removes your hitbox and is great in some situations to have for a build

the sculpture tool thing spawns enemies whenever you use a shrine thats it

[fossil valley]

[marsh grail]

egocentrism removes an item every minute (?) and turns it into itself

[dusky wing]

The left item replaces your utility (third ability), the second item makes it so every time you unlock an interactable you deal with enemies, the last one turns all the items you have into that item, all it does is go to enemies and explode

[fossil valley]

thank you

not taking any then igg

[dusky wing]

Those are not worth it EXCEPT the first one if your characters utility is horrible

[marsh grail]

i unironically always take hooks on arti

am i insane

[dusky wing]

Its alright

[marsh grail]

i just like having a dash panic button when my special is on cooldown

[ocean glen]

I mean, it's like the best heresy item

[marsh grail]

yh

i enjoy it

[dusky wing]

The characters you really want it on however is Railgunner, Captain (sometimes), and a few others

Depends on if you hate your current utility

[marsh grail]

but i wouldnt take it on someone like rfunner for example

rgunner*

[ocean glen]

Yeah

I prefer railgunner's mobility

[marsh grail]

i love rgunner boing

[dusky wing]

Railgunner can suffer from that delayed mobility and lack of healing, the heresy utility mitigates that but I understand why you wouldnt like it

[marsh grail]

so fun

i find myself double utilitying a lot if im in a tight spot so ive never seen a use for it qwq

im trying to think of another character id take it on but i havent played any of the other ones enough / dont want to take it on those

commando big maybe but i never play him anyways

ive never played engi but would it be good on them

[ocean glen]

Delayed mobility? Just tap twice

[marsh grail]

its either a poop shield or mines

[ocean glen]

Takes some resource but works when you really need it

[marsh grail]

oops meant to hunter this react

but yes that is what i mean by doubling*

[dusky wing]

More just waiting during the landmine exploding animation, can cause deaths sometimes

[ocean glen]

Can't relate

[marsh grail]

tapping it again with another charge will instantly detonate it

[ocean glen]

Yeah

Gets funny with afterburner

[marsh grail]

i agree though that is its downside if you can't do that the delay can be brutal

but i dont think its that bad to where youll want hooks

its really good for making distance fast which is why it works so good with gunner

[fossil valley]

i love trimping :3

[inner gull]

is there much of a time for it

i think all the utilities are better or equal

[dusky wing]

I think some of them are very lackluster imo

[inner gull]

which

[dusky wing]

The one that comes to mind for me would be Railgunner and Commando (though this is more preference than objectiveness)

[marsh grail]

agree comando poop

[dusky wing]

Another one I would replace it for is Mul-T, I dont see much use for their utility as well

[inner gull]

i think railgunner has one of the best utilities and commandos slide is already good

[ocean glen]

Band procs

[inner gull]

mult utility moves you faster and gives you a way to proc bands

[dusky wing]

Fair, but you are going into the fray which is not always good

[inner gull]

also not making you unable to attack for 3 seconds is good

[dusky wing]

The point of the utility is to reposition and find a better spot to allow you to keep dps'ing

It is better to delay your dps than to die to the aggressor

[dusky wing]

Also wait dont 2/3 abilites already proc bands?

[ocean glen]

Rebar does, that's it

[marsh grail]

rebar my BELOVED

[ocean glen]

But rebar band proc is much weaker

[marsh grail]

ive never once used the ram for band procs

[dusky wing]

Oh yeah I just checked yeah

[marsh grail]

for attacking in general

[ocean glen]

Actually maybe that grenade launcher does as well but no one uses it anyway

[dusky wing]

Wait the utility only does 250%, so it cant proc bands either

[marsh grail]

if it ever happens its by pure acident

[dusky wing]

Wait no bands proc at 200% right? I forgor

[dusky wing]

Just use power saw

[ocean glen]

300 I think

[dusky wing]

Then the utility doesnt proc bands

[ocean glen]

It scales with speed

It does

[inner gull]

it has heavy

it works like loaders punch and when you ram into something that stops you it does a higher damage hit

[dusky wing]

Oh alr

[inner gull]

it does 4x damage when hitting youre stopped

so it does 1000% damage

more than that actually given its heavy

[marsh grail]

does it proc items

[inner gull]

basically everything procs items yes

1.0 proc coefficent

[fossil valley]

omfg

i just broke 7 delicate watches

boowomp

whar do these do

[ocean glen]

First one I think is an active that spawns pools of fire that can damage both you and enemies

[inner gull]

whats your equipment and items

it isnt thats spinal tonic

[ocean glen]

Close enough

[fossil valley]

equipment is radar scanner

[inner gull]

spinal tonic you want perma uptime or you get permanent debuffs

3 fuel cells and a gesture for that but you dont have gesture unlocked id guess

[ocean glen]

Just gamble

[fossil valley]

im gonna be safe and take none i dont trust lunar items

[marsh grail]

:3

[inner gull]

true

[ocean glen]

That's the way

[dusky wing]

3rd one is best if you dont get hit often, first one is just drugs and can give withdrawals

You already know the 2nd one

[inner gull]

its simulacrum so brittle crown is terrible id guess

[dusky wing]

That one is a much lighter blue and in a different orientation

[dusky wing]

Probably yeah

Spinal tonic is good if you have gestures and fuel cells

But I'd say none of them are really that good at the moment

Since its rare you would have so many fuel cells

[ocean glen]

That's a lot of lunars for simulacrum

[fossil valley]

i think ive hit a cap on attack speed which i didnt think was a thing

[ocean glen]

I don't think it is?

[dusky wing]

There isnt a cap

[ocean glen]

Are you just stacking syringes

[inner gull]

there is an attack speed cap

[fossil valley]

sad

[dusky wing]

Damn, forgor it was a thing

[inner gull]

its because youre reducing time between shots and theres a minimum amount of frames each shot takes

[dusky wing]

Ohh yeah its tied to frame rate

Or frame tick

Games usually only have 60 ticks, so the cap is one shot per tick, which means the cap is 60

[paper lava]

i spot a fruity,,

[inner gull]

for commando thats 2 frames per shot and the game is at 60 ticks mechanically or something like that

[paper lava]

[inner gull]

commandos max speed is 20 shots per second

suppressive fire also has this cap so grenade truthers keep winning

[fossil valley]

nuhuh

[ocean glen]

Just win before you hit the cap

[dusky wing]

Well if you hit the cap you are pretty unstoppable as is usually

[paper lava]

[fossil valley]

yea except simulacrum is super unfun and stupid and boring and bs

so you either are doing really well or die instantly :33333333333

[ocean glen]

Only first few stages are difficult tbh

It's so easy to get broken in simulacrum

[fossil valley]

i disagree i think it gets harder over time

[ocean glen]

Well eventually you get to the point where you one shot everything and everything one shots you

But there's a long time before that

[dusky wing]

Omg Inv

[paper lava]

i have been collecting emotes

[fossil valley]

im not oneshotting everything tho

its not fun i just hold m1 and occasionally use my other skill when i have to hit an aerial enemy

[ocean glen]

Close enough

[fossil valley]

thats an exhaggeration but still

just run and circles and hold m1

because it spawns 70 lynillion enemies in the first second youll be hitting things no matter where you are

[ocean glen]

Yeah it's boring once you got a build and resource management part of the game is gone

[fossil valley]

doodoo gamemode

[ocean glen]

Yeah, play eclipse instead

[inner gull]

true

[fossil valley]

please game why do both of viends unlocks suck so much

[marsh grail]

fruity

im at my desk now if you wanna play :>

[fossil valley]

yuh!

i literally just unlocked viend so that works out

[dusky wing]

Noice

[fossil valley]

oh interesting they have no alts

[dusky wing]

Im down to play rn as well

[fossil valley]

sloggers

[harsh glen]

ehhh they have alts

youll see

[marsh grail]

no they dont

[dusky wing]

They have "alts" but thats about it

[marsh grail]

oops fruity youll have to reinvite

i need to load modded

[dusky wing]

Oh noes slurpps is putting on their cheats!!! (jk)

[ocean glen]

Wish viend had alt passive that changed corruption system to early concept

[marsh grail]

ty

[fossil valley]

idk who to play

hmm

[dusky wing]

Play Fiend

[marsh grail]

i thought you were gonna try viend

[inner gull]

actually viend has an alt skin, therefore youre wrong!! /lh

[dusky wing]

What mods do you use? I mostly have skin mods lol

Oh and also that info mod

[marsh grail]

when i play multiplayer i just use a configed version of betterui with item descs

when i play solo, those + faster everything + instant teleporter after boss death

these 2

everything else is a million dependencies

oh it didnt unlock desperado

whoever told me that lied

it unlocks bandits alt primary gags

[dusky wing]

Any vc btw?

[marsh grail]

i can

[dusky wing]

Are you in Post mordem?

[marsh grail]

yus

[dusky wing]

Go there then

[fossil valley]

you need to kill mithrix with lights out

[marsh grail]

yeah

[fossil valley]

i want it to but i dont play bandit often

[inner gull]

its a very strong ability i think

[fossil valley]

does ap rounds affect poison

[inner gull]

i dont think so

[fossil valley]

what alts are good to unlock for rex

[gusty mulch]

TAKE THE CHISEL LOOKING ONE!!!

[ocean glen]

Only alt utility really

Though I prefer default

[marsh grail]

it does

same with blight

[fossil valley]

i heard blight sucks

[ocean glen]

It does

[marsh grail]

i like blight personally

[fossil valley]

poison is more consistently good

[marsh grail]

are you back btw

[fossil valley]

no

[marsh grail]

cries