MSC Arena

[weary osprey]

really annoying that they have no telegraphed attack so just being close to their mouth is lethal

[limpid glen]

Ya that's like the most op weapon

[queen hill]

jumpscare..

jellyfish op fr !!

its how i started killing the hard enemies in the arena and then i started doing spears only

[limpid glen]

The most op weapon is the jellyfish and the charged spear

[queen hill]

im working on limiting the number of spears to a more natural amount

oh yeah electric spears definitely

can you imagine. dualwielding electric spears.

literal heaven

[limpid glen]

Spearmaster my beloved

[queen hill]

OW FUICK

I JUST SHOT COCA COLA STRAIGHT UP MY NOISE

NOSE

FUUUUCUIKKKKKL

sorry

[limpid glen]

?

Oof

[queen hill]

MID SIP I SLIGHTLY COUGHED AND IT JUSTY SHOT RIGHT UP MY NOSE. UUUUGYHUHGHGH

anyways!

[limpid glen]

BTW anyone participating in the October art thing

[queen hill]

I WOULD BUT I HAVE NO MOTIVE

[limpid glen]

Spooky month art :D

[limpid glen]

Y

[queen hill]

the blood mod was great for my training session of last night

[queen hill]

procrastination

[limpid glen]

Drawing is my procrastination

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865354005042823198/1157206583823061003/20230929_014258.png?ex=6528e79d&is=6516729d&hm=f7aa5a05d3dbdb02166054b9416c6335ece2275e73d8787fb34a058dbeca67c8&

Drew that in math class

Cuz I get bored listen to the teacher

[queen hill]

i draw to help me focus

i kinda wanna go on another arena rampage

[limpid glen]

nice

[queen bramble]

btw for id finder users, I have in fact confirmed that the graph looks like this and that for small requests, 2 is the optimal thread count

this difference is also negligible for search ranges below the tens of millions and saves a tens of seconds at most for really long requests

[night canyon]

[proper plaza]

cmon children do soemthgin

[queen bramble]

id finder 1.2.0 probably coming out in a few hours

anyway there's the 5 most aggressive ids in the first 100000 ids for you

[left kayak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1140686109328814180/1155106908533968966/attachment.gif

I love it

i love it so much

[queen bramble]

it is done

[hidden sparrow]

i was about to ask what the bias factor was but kinda figured it out in my head

[queen bramble]

it just biases the search in favor of that particular input by the amount in the box

how much it affects is based on ratio

if you set one to 9999 or so and the rest at 1 then your result will only really look like the one 9999 input

[hidden sparrow]

yeah

[thin torrent]

yype of sea slug

[heavy merlin]

my gif yoooooo

[night canyon]

yoo

hey alduris do you have the id finder 1.20 file since i dont use steam and raindb doesnt update it

[night canyon]

yay thanks

[queen bramble]

dang raindb still hasn't updated the site in 2 weeks

[queen bramble]

I took this screenshot at a bad time (when it was doing the black flashy thing) but this caramel lizard's head is not very caramel

[proper plaza]

booting up rai wrowld NOW

to check

the non caramel caramel

lmao

[heavy merlin]

what is bias in id finder

[proper plaza]

AWWW THE SKRUNKL

[heavy merlin]

SKRUNKL

[proper plaza]

his eyes

he put up a good fight

[limpid glen]

SKRUNGLTY!!

[proper plaza]

he managed to pin the green to the wall but it broke free and he had no more weapons 💔

[queen bramble]

#1139727778812538922 message

[thin torrent]

my pet silicon is ike this

[queen bramble]

so they've heard

[cursive blaze]

good colour

[heavy merlin]

ok

[night canyon]

its the worf silly blocked

oh

[night canyon]

what dms mod you used in the second pic it looks silly

[tepid cypress]

I had the random idea of seeing if I could figure out what IDs Arty's pups use
has anyone else done this or should I continue with my Plan

[queen bramble]

1000 and 1001

arti is 1002

those are the 3 hardcoded slugnpcs

[tepid cypress]

ah
well that's pretty simple

[cursive blaze]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3041814539

[left kayak]

thanks

[cursive blaze]

Very grunky

[queen bramble]

modding is going well

[simple latch]

thats horrible /pos i want to learn modding now

[robust drum]

what is that

[viscid barn]

the scav spawner

THROW A BOMB INTO A GROUP OF MOTHER SPIDERS WITH THAT ON

[heavy merlin]

walking my shrimp

[tepid cypress]

fun Rain World Science fact
a mobile Rot cyst seems to ignore Leviathans, as I put both of them on dry land and they ignored each other
when I put both in water, the Leviathan ate the MLL
but Proto Long Legs can zoop the Leviathan inside, as can Red Wormgrass
black wormgrass seems to not be strong enough/wasn't able to do it before I gave up which admittedly was like 10 seconds

well, the Proto Long Legs seemed to zoop the Levi inside
while the red Wormgrass just deleted it

[primal heath]

green

[heavy merlin]

it more looks like concrete

[limpid glen]

petrified

[heavy merlin]

or dehydrated vomit

[heavy merlin]

SCRIMBLO AND SCRINGLE FAKERS

YOU ARE OGING WITH ME

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/958418404769943572/1122515441017962596/sarkazar.gif

I FOUND THIS SCAV

I FUCKING FOUND HIM

flying my pet on a leash

[viscid barn]

fun fact: you can ride a centiwing like that

just hope it dosn't aggro

[heavy merlin]

it killed me

you also can ride noots but not with sait ofc

because if u lick a creature, it wont like it

[queen bramble]

iirc it aggros on you after a timer

Before that it’s scared of you

So you can definitely for a time

[viscid barn]

yeah

maybe use it to get over a gap then RUN

[arctic grove]

Feeding a Miros bird and then enclosing it gives you a pet

[tepid cypress]

frien

[tepid cypress]

anyone have more Science to do

[arctic grove]

Mutual agreement

[tepid cypress]

"frien?"
"click clack clack screech"
"frien :)"

[cursive blaze]

See what happens when you have a miros vulture in a room and feed them a pup

[queen bramble]

probably the same thing but don't do that >:(

put your pup in a daycare instead

[limpid glen]

Ehhhhhh I'd rather be an always there parent

[heavy merlin]

oh yeah

[heavy merlin]

the cycle

AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA

HELP IM FUCKING SUFFOCATING

FJYTH SBHFCTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTMU Y

bro thinks hes a catfish

one more fucking catfish

[thin torrent]

i have no idea what makes jetfish albino

i can't find a tag for it

it's not id based

[queen bramble]

it goes in properties.txt of the region it looks like. maybe try alternate form or I think it's called if you haven't

[viscid barn]

I don't have access to ID finder, but could someone try to find a green lizard with max energy?

the wiki said they should be able to climb poles a little maybe?

[queen bramble]

They don’t

Not sure where you saw that on the wiki, it’s not on the green lizard page and I haven’t seen it in my ~300 hours of playing

[viscid barn]

hm

ah I misread

they try to climb the pole

[queen bramble]

0 aggression, 0.999 sympathy

good skills but it won't attack much

[viscid barn]

the nice guy

if you piss him off they will kill you

[manic zinc]

Yea he usually doesn’t start fights, but the moment you throw a spear at him he’ll either dodge or block and then kill you instantly

[cursive blaze]

also energy is the same for every creature by ID

[arctic grove]

How to cook with Artificer

[viscid barn]

delicious

[heavy merlin]

scrumptious

[tepid cypress]

what if
I spawned every single vanilla (base game + downpour) creature in a room
and watched them all fight

[cursive blaze]

The rot probably wins lol

Especially if you have rotund world

They grow very large

[tepid cypress]

I do have Rotund World
I'm gonna try it one (1) time because I need to go to bed
I'm excluding the aquatic creatures because everything seems to ignore leviathans and I don't have any decent arenas with both dry land and water

do i hit Play

it has the aquatic creatures in it I lied

the game remarkably did not crash

the chaos so far

the Stowaway keeps trying to eat the Rain Deer (and failing)

the Hunter Long legs and Mother Long Legs seem to be slowly consuming everything on the left side of the arena

THE LEVIATHAN MOVED SLIGHTLY PEOPLE

the stowaway is struggling to eat a noodlefly

the green lizard is. somehow still alive amidst the chaos

as is the BLL, I thought other Rot cysts ate it

as of currently the survivors are

• King Vulture
• Leviathan
• Inspector
• Stowaway
• Centiwing
• A gang of Coalescipedes
• Rain Deer
• Hunter Long Legs
• Mother Long Legs
• Brother Long Legs
• Salamander
• Green Lizard

oh and the Train Lizard

Train Lizard has slain the Centiwing

Salamander like. bled out or something?

okay, I think this is the most I'm getting out of this, it's been going for 10 minutes or so with no changes
the survivors are:

• Inspector
• Coalescipedes (at least one)
• Stowaway
• King Vulture
• Brother Long Legs
• Leviathan
• Rain Deer
• Train Lizard
• Green Lizard (barely, on like 5% health)
• Mother Long Legs
• Hunter Long Legs

that concludes our Science Experiment for tonight, thank you all for coming

[viscid barn]

I think the main reason is that the room is too big

put them in a smaller room MLL will be left standing

[arctic grove]

Cheeto

[cursive blaze]

@queen bramble not replacing pups with scavs is giving everyone far too much mercy, even if its impossible

[queen bramble]

I didn’t want to try fixing arti dreams was the main thing

Plus I like pups too much

[cursive blaze]

But imagine waking up to find your kid replaced with monke

You get stabbed immediately

I’d call that a W

[queen bramble]

Well now you have to prevent yourself and your child from stabbing

[cursive blaze]

Nah all my kids are either sociopathic or dumb enough to never leave my side so we good

[queen bramble]

I meant to put being stabbed

[arctic grove]

Artificer’s gonna be heck

Wait a minute, you didn’t turn Five Pebbles and Moon into scavs too, did you?

[queen bramble]

No

[arctic grove]

Ok

[queen bramble]

Oracles are physical objects in the code, not creatures

The mod only turns creatures into scavs

[arctic grove]

Pups: yay! Gourmand is home!
Gourmand carrying 79 scav bodies instead of their food quest:

[cursive blaze]

skrimplers

[pale gulch]

silly entities

[queen bramble]

why are scugs fun to just throw around with your mouse

[viscid barn]

weeeeeeee

[viscid barn]

orang

this very frilly guy

and this very dark noot

[cursive blaze]

i love the colour variation on salamanders

[viscid barn]

yeah

unfortunatly I died and they rerolled into a non-orang :(

[viscid barn]

I don't like how remix added a limit to how many things you can have in arena

let me spawn in 30 billion bombs and break my switch :(

or 20 thousand bubble fruit into some water and fill it up

[left kayak]

floppy

[limpid glen]

probably because it requires such little effort

[queen bramble]

if you don't flick hard enough then it doesn't fly, if you flick too hard then it goes to the moon and smashes its skull on the ceiling

there is some effort in trying to find the right balance

[cursive blaze]

i found a pup who flew really funny when you threw a grenade at them

[queen bramble]

slug cat

[left kayak]

tailcat

[viscid barn]

slug.exe has stopped functioning

[limpid glen]

i introduce to you CHILI shes so pretty and also the redest pup so far

shes even redder then hunter

btw ofc this is a vanilla pup

no em tweaks or rainbow pups

chili next to hunter

[viscid barn]

hunter's face is just: "what the fuck is that"

[limpid glen]

yus

hunter wants to be fed

[viscid barn]

3 food pips

[limpid glen]

heheh

[queen bramble]

hypothetically, how many food pips would a human be?

[night canyon]

8

or even 10

[viscid barn]

well

assuming food pips is based on size (which I think it is)

a slugcat is around 2 ft tall

so we need to find a creature that's about 3 slugcats long/tall

and JUST 3 slugcats

not like rain deer who are 3 long and 2 tall

[cursive blaze]

If it’s based on size then pups would be an outlier

They’re much smaller than lizors but proportionately give more food

[viscid barn]

true...

I don't think it's 100% consistant but it's a good base

[queen bramble]

do slugcats also give 3 food pips as adults?

[limpid glen]

tbh why wouldnt you just try to compair them to the iterator size

[queen bramble]

or does jolly coop change that

[limpid glen]

cuz iterators are supposed to be human imitations

[queen bramble]

but are they human-sized

that is an unknown

[limpid glen]

idk and if we are honest how do we even know slugcats are 2 feet tall

[queen bramble]

we don't really, just one of the devs said once he considered himself 3 slugcats tall

there are the remains of ladders in rain world and we can determine that slugcats are fairly small though, at least compared to the ancients

[limpid glen]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[viscid barn]

some people think they're like 10 milimeters tall

I think they're getting that from pearls or somethin??

[limpid glen]

ya it is

[viscid barn]

I don't think they understand those aren't oyster pearls

it's a form of data storage, that just looks like an oyster pearl

[limpid glen]

mhm

[viscid barn]

I wonder if those are the same people who think rain world is earth (it's not)

[limpid glen]

i wonder how tall the dev is that said that he considers himself to be 3 slugcats tall

[queen bramble]

I don't remember if it was Joar or James

one of the two

[limpid glen]

noooooooooooooooo

sadage

[queen bramble]

well how tall are either of them

[limpid glen]

which field were they responsible for

[queen bramble]

Joar was programming and original idea, James was music and level design

[limpid glen]

you can use photogrammitry to figure out the height

[queen bramble]

looking through discord search it appears it might have been james who said that

[limpid glen]

welp time to do some maths

maths is coolz

:D

luckily there is appearently a ton of images to work with

ill find the approximate height for each one then use an average to find as close to his actual height as possible then divide that by 3 after that round

i must know the slugcats height!

cuz from there so much can be found

and so much math can be done

[viscid barn]

yeah

[limpid glen]

ALRIGHT i found something i can do the mathimatics off of

[queen bramble]

why not just see if he’s posted his actual height somewhere

[limpid glen]

cuz i dont think anyone would do that

ok i have found out that is lanyard is 1 inch thick

luckily they used exact messurements i dont end up drowning in calculations

now your prob thinking why in the world is this even relivant well its cuz he is seen wearing it in one of the conventions

anyway back to math stuff :,)

[viscid barn]

what kind of matpat math are you doing here

[queen bramble]

not full body pic though

[limpid glen]

i can cross reference his head to other pictures

also no its 0.6 inches

so frick

[limpid glen]

his neck is three inches thick i guess

ya i think i made a mistake somewhere

[queen bramble]

If he’s approximately the height of an average human make then slugcats are about 2 feet/65cm tall

[tepid cypress]

hmm
does anyone know what the IDs for Arty's pups are
since they're definitely hard-locked in some way, but I'm not sure how

[queen bramble]

1000 and 1001

also I swear you've asked this before

[limpid glen]

1000 and 1001

[tepid cypress]

I think i had but I had completely forgotten what it was

[queen bramble]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079882647733555201/1101962112827396186/1100299904984829973.gif

[cursive blaze]

Rivet do funny dance

[sage heath]

tiny white lizard

and heres some of the winners of my own little hunger games experiments

[limpid glen]

boy why u so skrungly

[sage heath]

he was getting bullied by the 15 other white lizards 💔

[limpid glen]

poor fella 💔

[atomic sierra]

i think hes happy about the pearls

[cursive blaze]

very excited

what dms skin are you using?

[atomic sierra]

it's my friends, shes using the slavina head and i think lantern cat eyes? im not sure @rapid cave

[shrewd girder]

weird visual glitch i saw after failing one of the challenges

[rapid cave]

yes slavina & lantern ca t

[sage heath]

i couldn't get the id for this one but. rainbow pups mod sure does wonders

guh so fat

[limpid glen]

riv bath riv bath riv bath

riiiiiv

[cursive blaze]

I’m half tempted to turn it back on so I can get pups that aren’t green lol

[sage heath]

its a lot better than the normal pups but some can get really weird colors

[thin torrent]

i have tried alternate form

i have tried every tag i could fin

[queen bramble]

I think it's hardcoded into the region

[thin torrent]

levi and jetfish have some sort of weird albinism system i do not understand

when i spawn a bunch of them a few spawn albino so its not just a sub thing

[queen bramble]

arena is also hardcoded to have albinos occasionally

[thin torrent]

ah

still

there has to be some tag out there which decides wether a jetfish spawns albino or not

[thin torrent]

riv bath

[viscid barn]

wet mouse bath

[trail zodiac]

i need help! can someone pls send me as many relatively clear images of the following creatures as possible?

• cyans
• scavs
• monk
• spearmaster
• hunter
• lttm
• enot

thank you so much

[sage heath]

i got a cyan

[limpid glen]

:D

[sage heath]

beautiful

[limpid glen]

indeed

[sage heath]

it took me like 30 minutes to figure out screen to gif but i did it

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1004616422674149420/1164846218615197696/cyanyeek.gif?ex=6544b294&is=65323d94&hm=5330900295242ec442f7d999a6ba4dd9eb253c195a7d380552a835c6cd556ea3&

[trail zodiac]

how do you do it...?

[arctic grove]

WHY ARE ALBINO JETFISH ALLOWED TO HAVE WHITE PUPILS

[limpid glen]

IT IS BEAUTIFUL

I LOVE EM.

[viscid barn]

bro is shocked

also I think thats the in-water form

[night canyon]

you gave me a idea for a dms skin

[arctic grove]

I killed it

[viscid barn]

yep

upon death, they get stuck in whatever form they're in

[tiny delta]

scav

scav heavem

[limpid glen]

[sage heath]

weird ahh noodlefly (may require emeralds tweaks & features mod, not too sure)

[limpid glen]

thats definitely an ems tweaks creature

[limpid glen]

I don’t even have to check to know that’s em tweaks

blue noodleflies are a thing though

very rare

[limpid glen]

I have an Id for one

I also have an actual red pup Id

there was a statistically most red pup possible found

dunno where it is

[limpid glen]

I was the one who found it

I’ll show you

no it was found using math

[sage heath]

guhh another one that requires emerald tweaks because i love these things

[limpid glen]

or coding

or something

[limpid glen]

I found it using the ID search from 0 to -1 so it would search ever id even negative ones

[sage heath]

on the topic of noodleflies, i found this. weird raw chicken dude

[limpid glen]

Heheh

Found it

I named her chili

:>

Also here is where it is found in msc spoilers

#1139727778812538922 message

#1139727778812538922 message

That’s the exact same id I have xD

ah

well you were using the same program after all

[limpid glen]

Indeed

Still didn’t do the darkest pup

[pale gulch]

that mask skin sprite likes to pop up everywhere for some reason

[limpid glen]

peculiar creature i found while playing 1.5

[pale gulch]

the creature is demonic in nature

[queen bramble]

I remembered now the dark slugpups are very weird in that the game just inverts their lightness value. So if you want to look for the darkest slugpup you might want to set the color to white and then make sure dark is checked

like this for example (id 62736928) was searched for by setting the color to white and checking "dark". I'll look into changing how that works to make it more intuitive in the next update.

this was just me stopping after 2% complete on full search

and unfortunately the color input likes to set the hue and saturation to 0 when you look for white which causes the slight issue that the pup that will be searched for will be red if it has any saturation

[thin torrent]

kelly

[limpid glen]

ill do this search then try it that way

[queen bramble]

that will print the darkest light gray pup with red hue I think

[limpid glen]

mk

but if it did find 000000 it would print that one right?

[limpid glen]

almost

[limpid glen]

i see

funny creature

[limpid glen]

you didnt check off dark btw

[limpid glen]

ik

when searching it changes it to 030303

interesting

huh

quirky lil system

lets try this

[queen bramble]

a bit late to be saying this but don't put the thread count that high, keep it down to like 4 or so and it's more efficient

[tepid cypress]

I'm considering spawning 20 slugpups in an arena and then giving them predators to fight to see what happens
what should I start with (I am going to work up towards a DLL)

[tepid cypress]

okay in other news I'm making Rain World assets for RPG In A Box
does anyone have funny Creachers for me to recreate in shitty voxelart

[queen bramble]

I spawned 4 pups in an arena armed with one spear each and they managed to take out 2 pink lizors easily

pups can be good fighters

half the time they were getting distracted by the batflies that were spawning because I forgot to turn them off

it was funny watching them spear the enemy, quickly shove a fly down their throat, and spear them again

[sage heath]

goofy ahh salamander

[sage heath]

brown

heres it with code

[viscid barn]

I saw a teenager noodlefly once

it was a baby with adult colors

[arctic grove]

Welp hunter’s dead

[viscid barn]

child

[cursive blaze]

I had one pup who confidently dropped 2 zoops and 2 cyans on his own in arena

He was a big silly

[viscid barn]

wow

sounds like me on spearmaster

my child

[arctic grove]

What just happened-

Did Saint learn to ploink??

[viscid barn]

yeah that happens with dragging them as well

with the mouse

[pale gulch]

ah mask sprite texture my beloved

[atomic sierra]

i killed . every single egg bug . and ate . every single egg .

[pale gulch]

hungry

[thick ledge]

what is wrong with this picture?

[cursive blaze]

I see no problems, just two hungy guys

[sage heath]

they're two blobs

[tepid cypress]

Spiky fella :)

[tepid cypress]

QUICK
I'm about to spawn 17 slugpups in an arena to pit them against steadily-more-dangerous enemies
I need names for them all

our contestants

I'm going to bed so the Games will likely be tomorrow
but these are the Scrimblies for naming overnight

[sage heath]

why is it so ball shaped
name this one murderer

[tepid cypress]

The one with 0.00 aggression?
Perfect

[cursive blaze]

4322 is eebler

They are too aware of their surroundings

[rapid cave]

o kso me and my friend r playing without pvp on in competetive and have no idea to end the round because its on "eating contest"

how... do u win

eating contest

[sage heath]

eat more food than the other or smth

[rapid cave]

we did that but the shelter wouldnt let us sleep

[tepid cypress]

so, we have
Murderer for 4317
and
Eebler for 4322
any other names?

[cursive blaze]

4318 is gwinky

[tepid cypress]

that's three of... 17
okay unless someone gives me a big list I'll probably wait till we have 5-7 names and then just randomly pick names for the remaining goobers

weirdly invested in this now lmao

[limpid glen]

4323 human resources

[tepid cypress]

what just literally name them "Human Resources"

[limpid glen]

4313 annihilation

[limpid glen]

yes

4309 banana flesh

4312 lime flesh

4321 demolition

4315 snimbler

4320 funny silly

[queen bramble]

4307 snartibleeg

[north jewel]

Is there a mod that lets my slugcat in sandbox mode be it’s normal colour?

[sage heath]

such a tiny body with such large antennae

not sure where to put this but inv spoilers
he won't let go 💔

and this oddly bald red lizard

okay last one for now bc i dont wanna spam but
he looks so uncanny

[limpid glen]

you can spam

not like. just going
E
E
E
but you can send multiplr imagez

[sage heath]

ah alr

[viscid barn]

image spam is fine here and in the skrankler residences

[tardy obsidian]

https://i.gyazo.com/fa9213005a2d4dd4139e97f1b295e5cc.mp4
Me vs Robbin

[arctic grove]

Such an aggressive baby. Name them Cupcake

[queen bramble]

those are some nice stats

[tepid cypress]

god as soon as I set up this plan to put 17 pups into an arena for Dubiously-Ethical Experimentation, my motivation for Rain World vanishes
if anyone else wants to do it go ahead, but for rn I'm taking a quick break

[proper plaza]

idk how recently this was but the most powerful scav id was found

it's ID is 1933417671

it can solo so many lizards at once its amazing

also solos dlls

and

various other critters

its great

[proper plaza]

oh god forgor

my bad

there

thats better

[queen bramble]

That’s not one of the ids I found a few months back #1139727778812538922 message

[proper plaza]

interesting, i found the id mentioned in a video from 12 days ago

[queen bramble]

Mind posting the video?

[proper plaza]

aight gimme a sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMJbg68WeLc&ab_channel=Exyllis

13 days ago, but still

[queen bramble]

what soiler was spotted, this is a full spoilers thread

pretty sure including inv

[cursive blaze]

https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1067190577411657920

[thick ledge]

no this is a thread in #downpour-spoilers not #inv-campaign

[queen bramble]

it wouldn't make sense to have it under #inv-campaign since that channel and its singular unlocked thread are exclusively for inv-related things

maybe it would've been better to have it under #1066863120850628740

[weary osprey]

Don't quote me but I don't see any issues with including inv content here

[queen bramble]

I've seen it quite a few times in this thread without action being taken ¯_(ツ)_/¯

but then again I've seen arena content posted in #downpour-spoilers that should've been in here and then 15 minutes later I post a little funny mod thing I worked on that just so happened to take place in an arena and got yelled at to post it here and the post removed

all depends on who's watching the channel and whether something is pointed out or not I guess

[cursive blaze]

it happens in msc spoilers without any action too, bc often times it just goes past before a mod spots it

and also it depends on whos actually chatting, theres a lot of people in here who seem to be 13-15 who just dont care about channel rules and talk about whatever in every channel

[queen bramble]

ow

[viscid barn]

minor inconvenience

[thin torrent]

hi

scagler time

the scag squad

energetic ribbons

friendly kooblar

kelly who is so nervous he is trying to hide in the floor

and war crimes joe with 3/5 os his scag skills maxed out and an extreme set of personality stats

what should they fight

this is WCJ's stats

joe and ribbons are killing this cyan with headshots

joe has also killed a vulture with rocks

rocks

he nearly killed a red with one spear and some rocks

time for his elite form

[viscid barn]

what about king joe?

[thin torrent]

idk

he would probably have his country declare war in himself and then win

[thin torrent]

would should the scav squad do???

[thin torrent]

robin

he can fire spears like a machine gun

war crimes joe is also capable of this but its hard to get a screenshot because he kills me so fast

4 spears fired so fast they became one

robin taught him well

he actually threw so fast i died before they hit

die

[viscid barn]

bro thinks they're the anime protaginist

[thin torrent]

slugcat

[thin torrent]

scav squad

what should they do

what kelly looking at

[queen bramble]

A way to escape

[viscid barn]

13 vultures

and a green lizard

[thin torrent]

no

[viscid barn]

||train lizard?||

using the beastmaster mod

[thin torrent]

ok i will fight a ■■■■■ ■■■■■■ with scav squa

so far it hasn't made a kill

KELLY

NO WAY

[thin torrent]

war crimes joe can't fail to some stupid ■■■■■ ■■■■■■

what else should they fight

[viscid barn]

MLL

wait no...

HLL

DLL is too easy, and MLL is too hard

so HLL

[thin torrent]

that will be challenging

it has 4x hp of ■■■■■ ■■■■■■ but its probably harder for HLL to kill scags because it needs to absorb them without being interrupted

[viscid barn]

and also it gets stunned a LOT more by rubbish and spears

as it has the weak slug nerves

[thin torrent]

oh what was that

yes go get to the arena

lol these idiots

four different types of scav

the way kelly is just pointing at it

kelly is super nervous so hes just shaking

this is more brutal then i thought it would be

joe and ribbons are playing catch with spears

what should they fight next

[viscid barn]

I honestly don't know

rot is either too easy or hard, and everything else joe can solo with rocks

[tepid cypress]

what ID is War Crimes Joe just out of curiosity

[thin torrent]

5743

go play with war crimes joe

i have friends of friends mod so if i spawn lizards tamed they won't fight each other

so i could have groups of different types of lizards

[viscid barn]

a group of 3 reds

normally it's hard to fight more then 1 because they murder eachother

[thin torrent]

i accidentally spawned them without joe

look at this

this is a scag

i think we'll need a more creative army than just throwing reds at them

[queen bramble]

if you ever wanted to id search for lizards, what sorts of things are you likely to want to look for?

[cursive blaze]

Frills, length, width, colour come to mind right away

[queen bramble]

frills are a bit tricky because that's not how it works

each lizard has a set of attributes they can display and how they display varies by the creature if it even shows at all (the set of attributes is not constant over all creatures)

tail length and fatness are easily searchable attributes though

[cursive blaze]

Oh yeah Ik, that’s just what makes lizards a pain in the ass to do this for bc none of them have consistent characteristics

Like stripes on a blue or peach fuzz on a red

Or the length of a yellows antennae

[viscid barn]

yellow antennae is based on dominance

[thin torrent]

what should scav squad fight

[thin torrent]

scav squaf

[limpid glen]

my beloveds

[thin torrent]

he melty

what they fight

[limpid glen]

one king vulture

[thin torrent]

joe already throwing

i can't believe kelly isn't cowering in the corner

he i susually so nervous he melts into the floor when he sees anything

[limpid glen]

our boy kelly

LOL

wonderful

he must really hate vultures

[thin torrent]

JOE IS KILLING IT WITH ROCKS

[limpid glen]

LOL

LOLLLL

[thin torrent]

joe keeps finishing off vultures with rocks

he did that against a normal vulture

[limpid glen]

spiteful being

[thin torrent]

he gives the birds no time even with no weapons

this is joe's stats btw

note the cracked scav stats and ruthless personality

[limpid glen]

i rember

literal psychopath

[thin torrent]

why are they loking up

[limpid glen]

vulture?

i love how ribbons looks

[thin torrent]

???

he got stabbed

[viscid barn]

BETRAYAL

[limpid glen]

hmm...

LOL

[thin torrent]

what are their next victim

i respawned joe

[viscid barn]

do you have any way to make them fight other scavs?

idk how you'd do it but it'd be cool

although joe would prob just dominate

[thin torrent]

no

although something that can throw spears would be interesting for him to fight

[viscid barn]

OOH

ARTI AI

beastmaster

[thin torrent]

ok

they will have some spears

it chose violence instantly

but joe lived

i did not expect this

although arti would have died instantly if the others were here

[viscid barn]

hm

[limpid glen]

impressive

[heavy merlin]

funky lizzy

[heavy merlin]

bros corpse got scrinkeld

[heavy merlin]

scav vulture

[thin torrent]

what should the gober squad fight

[limpid glen]

can i make a suggestion

[thin torrent]

yes

[limpid glen]

2 green lizards, 3 zonkerdoodles

[thin torrent]

zonkerdoodle = the mythical white lizard?

[limpid glen]

ys

i'd say even legendary

[thin torrent]

we don't know if white lizards exist tho

[limpid glen]

true, true

[thin torrent]

but i'll go start the battle

[limpid glen]

WOO

[thin torrent]

something weird happened try a different army

2 white lizards came from nowhere and then this happened

[thick ledge]

who would be stronger

war crimes joe or the mentally ill scav

[limpid glen]

LOL

[thin torrent]

mentally ill scav?

who is that

[limpid glen]

poor ribbons

[thick ledge]

cant send yt link here

it has soilers

[thin torrent]

ok

well

there isn't an inv arena thread so soilers are pretty much allowed here

like train lizard and stuff

mentally ill scav has actual maxed out stats

all 5

joe has 3 maxed and others high

off personality, mentally ill scav is more brave and more dominant but also more nervous and more sympathetic

@thick ledge @limpid glen you two make suggestions and both will fight until one of them can do something the other can't

[thick ledge]

the ••••• ••••••

the 🚋

[thin torrent]

there is no arena thread for inv just say train liz

[limpid glen]

the alpha red lizard

[thin torrent]

so far against mentally ill scav

mentally ill scav is a chew toy now

MIS vs train lizard

next is WCJ vs train liz

so far joe is ahead because he actually got a spear in

[thin torrent]

ok i willd o red lizard

tie for WCJ

[thick ledge]

hll

[limpid glen]

[thin torrent]

tie also red luzard was weirdly pale

[limpid glen]

5 yellow lizards

[thin torrent]

why arent they fight

[limpid glen]

guess they're scared of each other

[thin torrent]

joe is killing it with rocks

[limpid glen]

BHAHAHA

good ol joe

[thin torrent]

joe grabbed a spear and is getting brutal

wait

[limpid glen]

ohh boy

[thin torrent]

no way

joe died

final healthbar

[thick ledge]

now the mentally ill

[thin torrent]

final healthbar for mentally ill

so far joe is actually doing better

he gets more damage in on train and HLL

next is the pack

it's a flying lizard

yeah joe mowed them down

MIS missed with his explosive spear

i think he wants ANSWERS

[thick ledge]

lol

[limpid glen]

HAHAHA

[thin torrent]

he finally did it

[limpid glen]

joe truly is a war criminal

[thin torrent]

what fight next

[limpid glen]

he beats his victims to death with a rock when they can't fight anymore

[thin torrent]

so far they are tied

[limpid glen]

hmmm...

[thin torrent]

also MIS ended up getting a spear to kill the last yellow

[limpid glen]

1 inspector

[thin torrent]

joe is rich now

also let me describe the battle

joe stays there

[limpid glen]

damnnnnn

[thin torrent]

inspector gets close

joe absolutely butchers it

[limpid glen]

i thought the inspector would have skewered him, impressive

[thin torrent]

he won but he hurt himself with a paincone

[limpid glen]

poor fella

oh red inspector

thats so cool

[thin torrent]

aight whats next

so far they are completely tied

[limpid glen]

hmmhmhmhmhhmm

thinking...

6 wolf spiders

[thin torrent]

turn around bro

[limpid glen]

LMAO

[thin torrent]

he don't want to fight the hairy wall

[limpid glen]

i wouldn't look either

[thin torrent]

they are coming joe

[limpid glen]

bros about to get mauled

[thin torrent]

he killed 2 but wolf spiders can revive each other

[limpid glen]

rest in peace bud

perhaps 6 was a bit overkill

[thin torrent]

same here killed 2

wrong image

MIS

still tied

what next

[thick ledge]

vulture

[thin torrent]

die

MIS took much longer

still neck and neck

what next

[limpid glen]

hmm

HMMMMMMM

2 caramel lizards

[thin torrent]

they way the living cara looks at the dead one is unsettling

[limpid glen]

he is traumatized

[thin torrent]

yeah joe killed em

[thick ledge]

joe is camouflaging near the caramel lizard

[thin torrent]

true

the cara on the right is slowly sliding towards MIS

it has no friction its just bouncing between the wall and MIS

anyway next

also here's silicon

[limpid glen]

freeeend

[thin torrent]

what scag fight now

[cursive blaze]

who's the squinkiest

[thin torrent]

yes

[cursive blaze]

choose a blorbo

[limpid glen]

turquoise

[thin torrent]

ligh purple

[cursive blaze]

[thin torrent]

anyway what do scag fight next

so far mentally ill scav and war crimes joe have tied on everything

[thick ledge]

arti ai

or no

fight the player slugcat

(aka you)

[thin torrent]

against any slug joe and MIS will instantly skewer them

[thick ledge]

just try fight them

[thin torrent]

died to joe

sometimes when i spawn joe and teleport back into the ceiling chamber he finds the time to bomb spear me

[thick ledge]

stun him when you're going into the arena

[thin torrent]

same with MIS

it's still tie

scaglers are stronger than scug

what should they fight next

[cursive blaze]

sounds like a skill issue

[heavy merlin]

get good at aiming dude

[heavy merlin]

here comes my meal

NOOOOO

we good

[thin torrent]

wwwwwwwwww

[limpid glen]

9813 for the noot

[night canyon]

do you have ribbons id

[thin torrent]

5887

[night canyon]

thanks

[thin torrent]

i keep IDs of all my scags

[night canyon]

[thin torrent]

joe's ID also has a second purpose

5743 spawns both joe and a deer i have named MR. LONG

kooblar is 3472

and kelly is 7329

[night canyon]

why you named the deer mr long

[thin torrent]

spawn it

[night canyon]

Ok

living up to the name huh

dont mind the lanter mice

[thin torrent]

keep in mind that IDs keep the same personalities across creatures

so MR. LONG has the same max aggression and zero sympathy as war crimes joe

[night canyon]

oh fuck

[thin torrent]

i actually discovered mr. long first and noticed the peronality so i spawned it in as a scavenger and now we have war crimes joe

[night canyon]

nice

[viscid barn]

that explained the horns

[thin torrent]

i also have some cool coloured scavs

[viscid barn]

it's because of the high dominance

[thin torrent]

and the opposite of MR. LONG

[night canyon]

mr short?

[thin torrent]

2447 gives you bugs, who has tiny lil horns

i named him bugs because they look like antannae

one time i spawned bugs and MR. LONG at a party with some other deer, and bugs was constantly bowing while MR. LONG walked around stepping on everyone else, flexing his superior antlers

[thin torrent]

that's bugs

[night canyon]

poor bug

[thin torrent]

whats the lantern mice for tho?

[night canyon]

i was testing out how they hang

[thin torrent]

I have some very rare mouse IDs

purple and green ones

[night canyon]

giv

[thin torrent]

copied directly from my notepad file of IDs:
Green Lantern mouse: 9305
Slightly Pale Green Lantern mouse: 9428
Lime Lantern mouse: 4571
Pale green mouse: 5362
Pink lantern mouse: 2948
Purple lantern mouse: 6440

[night canyon]

cool

thanks77

[thin torrent]

11602 spawns a really long slime mold

i found it in saint and just had to write it down

[night canyon]

i think they have similar horns

[thin torrent]

and in hollow knight everyone is a bug

[night canyon]

omg

true

[thin torrent]

bugs = insect in disguise

Cyan noot: 34745
Blue-leg: 40438
Purple noot: 7401
Pale Noot: 7390
these are special noot IDs

[night canyon]

Cool

a lot of cool ids

[thin torrent]

Pink scav: 6954
Red scav: 5976
Blue scav: 12205
mystery colour you don't know what it will be scav: 9505
Darkk scav: 3277
Mint green Scav: 5663
Fire Orange scav: 5668
Purple scav: 3007
Normal Purple scav: 6713

[night canyon]

[thin torrent]

my ID notepad is a long list of personal slugpups and tamed lizards and also crazy lookin creatures

[night canyon]

wow i think i need them all

[thin torrent]

i assume you have testing arenas

go to the hole arena and put spears on one side

put war crimes joe on the spears side and throw a spear at him from the other side

this causes something i like to call a scavenger machine gun

[night canyon]

Ok

[night canyon]

war crimes joe is mentally insane

[thin torrent]

once he killed a vulture with rocks

he absolutely butchered a hunter long legs

[night canyon]

WTF

[thin torrent]

there's a reason he's called war crimes joe

[night canyon]

[limpid glen]

i really like war crimes joe

[night canyon]

hes green

[arctic grove]

A scavenger I’ve grown fond of. Look at this baby

Skrunk

I FOUND A PORCUPINE

[cursive blaze]

they have the eyes

automatically cool

[thin torrent]

that's probably josh

most people around here haven't met josh

BUY LONG SLIME TODAY FOR 300 PORLS!!!!

comparisin to normal slime

[hidden sparrow]

idk why i decided to do this

[tepid cypress]

hmm
is the Scavenger Chieftan hardcoded? I'm wondering if it'd be possible to spawn a Scav King with the values of Bongle (1933417671, from the "Mentally ill scav kills everything" video) for a True Boss Fight

[robust drum]

look at the GIRTH on this LAD

CHONK

[limpid glen]

delicious

also ur skin is soso cute

[limpid glen]

nope

no hardcode

[queen bramble]

scav chief spawn is hardcoded in arti's bossfight but you can manually spawn it with other ids

Actually side note it's a bit weird because it actually sets the alternate seed, which behaves a bit weird with the code (iirc if the alt seed is -1, which it is by default, the code uses the number, otherwise it uses the alt seed in its calculations of graphics and etc). I don't think Visible ID looks for the alt seed, just at the number, so it will likely show something different. The personality is set before the alternate id is set, so that one should be different each time.

the id, btw, is 8875

[heavy merlin]

goob

[queen bramble]

baby (ignore the line, that's from a debug mod)

chonky

max tail color (this is for future reference because I foresee questions about this in the next update of id finder)

[robust drum]

smol...

[queen bramble]

the baby family

of course the caramel is barely affected by it

I don't think I've ever seen such a skinny red lizard

I love how smooth this tail motion is

[thin torrent]

LIZAR

[queen bramble]

baby war (at some point in this video the green lizard gets shoved out of the world lmao)

[thin torrent]

he just smol

[robust drum]

the green's tail looks so weird

the white is just chilling on the wall. good for it

[queen bramble]

corndog

[robust drum]

oh god i just noticed the fucking strawberry getting thrashed

poor bluey

[thin torrent]

that's a very nice lizard

[cursive blaze]

Is that the juvenile lizards mod?

[queen bramble]

no this is the normal vanilla lizards

[cursive blaze]

How are they so smol

The caramel looks like a chicken nugget

[queen bramble]

I am adding a new thing to id finder for lizard variations

right now the generic lizard variations are completed, looking into the per-breed ones

this is the id in the first 100000 ids with the smallest fatness, tail size, and tail fatness

the breed variations are tricky because each decoration has its own variations

and there's a lot of decorations and a lot of math

this is for the body stripes variation, the only value I actually return is the number of segments

[thin torrent]

i wonder who the scavenger with the best stats and most aggressive personality is in the first 10000 IDs

[cursive blaze]

Check lol, Id finder is right there

[pastel sentinel]

yo

[thin torrent]

where is it

[queen bramble]

steam or raindb

[cursive blaze]

Workshop

[queen bramble]

raindb version should be up to date I think as well

[pastel sentinel]

Doing a 1v1 against every creature as Hunter, which map do i do

Frame: 1️⃣
Platforms: 2️⃣
Warehouse: 3️⃣

[cursive blaze]

@queen bramble is single handedly doing everyone a massive favour with that mod

[night canyon]

so i will be able to find the cyan whit the fattest tail

[queen bramble]

yeah pretty much except it won't be just cyans

[queen bramble]

try this chonker's id

[night canyon]

[cursive blaze]

I like their shark fin

[pastel sentinel]

forgot to say there is 5 minute timer until this ends

[queen bramble]

I should see what thin lizard with fat tail looks like

in class rn tho

[night canyon]

like a corn dog

[pastel sentinel]

90 Seconds

Platforms: 2 Votes
Frame: 2 Votes (1 From Spoilers)
Warehouse: 0 Votes

[thin torrent]

ima find the strong scag

[pastel sentinel]

40 Seconds

Frame and Platform Tie

[queen bramble]

flip a coin

[pastel sentinel]

time for

the wheel!!!

i decided to do a 3v1 for the yellow lizard bc its just a fancy pink lizard otherwise

still killed em ez

[thin torrent]

joe is slightly biased towards mid range, melee, anc blocking, but here he is

[pastel sentinel]

Time for a "Boss Fight"

Red Lizard Time...

[thin torrent]

vs what

[pastel sentinel]

Hunter

im doing 1v1's

of every creature

i will let myself use a bomb spear for this fight

[thin torrent]

spawn a scavenger with id of 5743

that's joe

he is an interesting character

[pastel sentinel]

ok so i frogot reds are not affected by rocks

at all

[thin torrent]

and aren't instakilled by bpmb spear

[pastel sentinel]

i know that

but they give 0 shit aboiut rock

[thin torrent]

they are fairly difficult

[pastel sentinel]

i blew myself up...

ok i did it

hit it with bomb spear

let the spear go boom

then finish it with a spear to the back

fun fact

gourm can one shot a red fire a firespear if they arent tired

so my theory is

gourm doesnt do 3 damage

he multiplies it by 3

[thin torrent]

fire spear multiplies by 3

not gourmy

[pastel sentinel]

so yea

oh rly?

ah alr

but even then

[thin torrent]

saint has spear damage of 0.6-0.9

but code blocks it from using norma spears

[pastel sentinel]

if its gourm who does x3 spear damage

[thin torrent]

that's 9

[pastel sentinel]

he still does x9 damage if the fire spear is just does x3 damage

or does 3 damage

whatever

[thin torrent]

did you beat the final boss, red liz?

[pastel sentinel]

my brain fumbled a sec

yes

i just said

[thin torrent]

wrong

the final boss is war crimes joe

[pastel sentinel]

a boom spear does most the work

then a reg spear finishes the job

ez if you get the jump on it

but yea