MSC Arena

[primal heath]

3862 and 3850

[viscid barn]

red lizard

[limpid glen]

oddly redder then usual

[hasty gull]

that looks quite normal

[limpid glen]

maybe im dumb idk

[weary osprey]

doesnt look weird to me

[viscid barn]

I think it's one of the lighter reds

haha funni survived two in a row

I think surviving the spears is based on how fast they go and the % chance

slower they go, higher the chance of you surviving

[queen bramble]

it also helps that gourmand is fat

[hasty gull]

don't think so

[viscid barn]

well then I got a 1/225 chance

[cursive blaze]

my favourite drama is when someone makes an assertion based on their experience and someone else just says "nuh uh"

[queen bramble]

Gourmand has a higher chance of survival when hit by a spear

[viscid barn]

wait yeah I did the chances wrong

if it's jusr a 15% chance like the wiki says, it was a 9/400 chance

I think that's higher

yeah

but still low

[primal heath]

I spawned a slugpup and it has 0.000 wideness lol

[queen bramble]

stealthy

[cursive blaze]

gotta pay the pup tax

[limpid glen]

1 BLL

[vale eagle]

Please feed that child

[night canyon]

How you edit lizards to be raimbow

[jovial sand]

i believe its an emerald's tweaks thingie

[night canyon]

Is that a mod? Sorry, i dont know much about mods

[cursive smelt]

Yes

[night canyon]

Thanks

[left kayak]

I need names for these silly fellas

[queen bramble]

I am working on a mod, it's working so far

[limpid glen]

hmmm that blue one looks like a Finn type of guy

[heavy merlin]

the hell is this

looks scary

[queen bramble]

Once I make a GUI it won’t be as scary

[cursive blaze]

The second one strikes me as a squeeve

[jovial sand]

not really any critter in particular im just bored af so im swingin

lookit the dingus go

[cursive blaze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/385548182102212608/1042845134259224647/1D889B07-90B8-4AAE-AD1F-479BD171BE7C.gif

[queen bramble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958418404769943572/1140498720870383756/image.png

from a time of me playing around with baby saint in beastmaster and baby saint figured out how to movement

it's funny that pups can (although not willingly) use the dp scug abilities if they press the right controls

which leads to funny interactions such as baby artificer defying the laws of physics by... idk what they were even doing but they were doing it to baby survivor

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958418404769943572/1140496089594736650/image.png

[primal heath]

fluffy red lizard

[limpid glen]

heh i wonder if you enable the unlocked saint mod if it affects scugpups and what that would look like :>

[night canyon]

he dancing

[robust drum]

that's such a pretty cyan

almost looks like a mutated salamander

[queen bramble]

why do lizards like sniffing the floor so much

what is their AI even trying to do

[cursive blaze]

tbf actual lizards do the same kinda thing

my beardie lets me know he wants to run around by rubbing his head around the bottom edge of his terrarium

[weary osprey]

im wondering what aspect of the code makes them do that

unless if it was intentionally added, which i dont think it is

[cursive blaze]

might be a pathfinding error given that sometimes the collision on the floor can sometimes be wonky so maybe the same extends to creature vision

but even if its a bug its conveniently realistic lol

[queen bramble]

I wonder if there exists a visualization for the pathfinder

[cursive blaze]

i think someone visualized their vision cone but idk about pathfinding

[queen bramble]

yeah the vision code has a mod out there

and so do the trackers (like PreyTracker, FriendTracker, ThreatTracker, etc)

[cursive blaze]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3035802284

this might do it

[queen bramble]

also for the record this is what I was told is used for the visualizations on the wiki #vanilla-spoilers message

[limpid glen]

sideways piggyback ride

[sullen brook]

pretty.....

[hasty gull]

Love bitter aerie

if i make a custom region i'll include some weird guaranteed albino creature somewhere probably

[sullen brook]

also a prtty eel

[queen bramble]

it works

when doing a big search with lots of threads

at the start of the search it was at 97% CPU usage

now it's sticking around 80%

this is searching the same thing as in my video except over all ids and 10 threads to see if it matches this goober

[left kayak]

interesting

[queen bramble]

I plan to eventually release it after I find some other interesting things I can search for

Windows Defender is very suspicious of my resource usage right now lol

[queen bramble]

the answer is yes it does work (also I had to restart and in doing so I lowered the thread count from 10 to 4 as an optimization thing, because of how Unity's Random class is set up (poorly for my purposes), more threads is actually a bad thing

[queen bramble]

any specific requests for things to be able to search for?

[limpid glen]

goober

[hasty gull]

Maybe you could make it search for specific body patterns if that's possible

like cosmetics

[primal heath]

this is amazing

[queen bramble]

I wanted to have it search for scavenger body patterns and such but there’s so much code for that and I have to deal with offsetting the RNG system for each one and my system is sort of poorly designed for anything except floats. I might be able to do scavenger colors but it would be extremely slow to search and clunky to input values

I did add lantern mice color and vulture wing variations though

Also what I want to do in the future (probably not the initial release of the mod) is have some of the inputs be able to turn into color pickers or check boxes.

[queen bramble]

if y'all want to check it out for yourself, here it is (but beware that this is my first mod and although I've tried testing it the best I can, I cannot guarantee it is bug free or will return the results you want)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3040378054

[left kayak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1095853733277077544/1116059741148414143/ezgif-1-425f26efef.gif

[primal heath]

I spawned a slugpup in a room with scavs and the scav immediantly pointed at it while running away

[queen bramble]

scav moment

[viscid barn]

yeah slugpups have survivor starting rep till you adopt them

which means stab if move too much/approch

or if the scav is a jerk

[queen bramble]

I thought they shared reputation with the “parent”

[viscid barn]

yeah

but if there is no parent (as with arena pups) then they hae survivor rep

[queen bramble]

which would be 0 which also makes sense

[low flower]

I found this frilly tailed white lizard while playing spearmaster the other day

[left kayak]

the best fight I've ever seen

this went on for at least 10 minutes

[thin torrent]

SLUGCAT

[queen bramble]

this fella would not settle down in its cage for like a minute and then it went honk shoo

I love them

the black hole (I'm not sure how I caused this)

also I forgot I have a mod that gives players (which slugpups are considered) a random chance to explode every frame and one of them exploded and they all died. was funny tho

there is still turmoil

also they can still explode after death apparently

more explosions

the ones in individual cells were survivors of the big blast that killed almost everyone

[viscid barn]

I know creatures with the same ID get funky whne they're near eachother

I think the game is getting confused because it thinks they're the SAME creature

maybe

[queen bramble]

I’ve also seen the getting sucked to the ceiling bug elsewhere

From my modding adventures: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1076238521137889400/1145950590275440700/20230829-0516-20.9631511.mp4

[brazen hemlock]

god i just found the greenest scav ever

[cursive blaze]

Little guy burned up all his energy now he eepy

He needs a candy bar

[robust drum]

that's a clump of grass wtf

[limpid glen]

must... touch...

[viscid barn]

touch grass mfs when I pull out this scav

[tepid cypress]

doing Scrimblo Experiments

oh 5198 and 5120 are finally fighting

5198 killed 5120 :(
I have revived both and placed them back in separate cells

they don't seem to care about each other anymore, maybe they just had to get that out of their systems

all right, now to start seeing what these IDs do with other creatures

which one should I test first?

[left kayak]

gonna squish bret into a scav pup because I want a scav pup NOW

[grave kernel]

Let's hope Bret can make jt

[left kayak]

they are going to be squished

they are not going to live lee..

[umbral meteor]

An iterator, about to give a scavenger dwarfism:

[queen bramble]

what does pup bret look lilke

[left kayak]

I'm putting them in a hydraulic press right now

[queen bramble]

sounds painful

[left kayak]

no they are fine 🧀

probably

THEY JUST KILLED ME

I had to fight them

[queen bramble]

this is why I usually summon a lizard or something for them to throw weapons at

dangle it with a mouse so the lizard is helpless

it writhes in agony as it wants to kill its murderer but it can't because god is in the way

[left kayak]

wall

FORT OF GREEN LIZARD!!

smartest slug

oh

return to slug

[grave kernel]

Bret definitely needs cuddles right about now

[left kayak]

I might just label them a criminal if they keep acting up

I win

their corpses shall add to my defence

[tepid cypress]

5120 has interesting results, most of them are albino it seems

[left kayak]

HELP

HELP ME

[tepid cypress]

the consequences of thy hubris

[queen bramble]

that looks like a you problem

[left kayak]

The great dropwig flood

thousands perished

[viscid barn]

once they got under a roof

stand under a surface and have the wrath of thousands of dropwigs

[queen bramble]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2984682386

[left kayak]

very cool alduris

[cursive blaze]

ive already used it to find the smallest guy

[vestal river]

Unmodded. How do I find more of these?

[cursive blaze]

you can use sandbox mode and just spawn a bunch in until you find cool ones

also if you use mods that id finder mod mentioned above works great for this specific thing

[limpid glen]

silly little guy denies gravity

[queen bramble]

I haven't programmed nootflies yet

I could probably easily enough but I didn't think there was enough variation to worry about it

they're all either pink, black, or blue

[cursive blaze]

honestly whats there already covers 95% of what people are looking for

[queen bramble]

I'll look into it later

[queen bramble]

that was my intent before initial release, add in the most popular things and some extra stuff people might be interested in that also have a lot of variation

also the lantern mouse variation has hue and dominance, I have no clue what the dominance trait does but it was in the lantern mouse class so I took it

it's separate from the personality dominance as well

[cursive blaze]

i imagine its similar to personality dominance in that it determines whether they like to be in a pack

idk why itd be a seperate variable though

[vestal river]

I know about the mod. Thing is it doesn't include Noodlefly configurations, unless I am skipping something crucial.

[cursive blaze]

yeah for noodleflies specifically just spawning them in sandbox is the quickest

[vestal river]

God, the blue ones are rare as hell. I only got two seeds and six which are partial.

[cursive blaze]

its like red slugpups lol

[vestal river]

Non-existing it seems. I don't know if I am using hue values correctly. Put from 0 to 10000000 and search Hue 800000 or FF0000 and nothing.

Atleast blue noodleflies are a thing. Can't say the same for the infants.

[cursive blaze]

i have a screenshot of a red pup??/

[vestal river]

Then I am not searching correctly.
Show me a screenshot and tell me how hue values are written exactly plz.

[vestal river]

That's a brown slugpup. I meant PURE RED slugpups are near ficticious.

[cursive blaze]

thats red? brown is also just dark orange so im not sure what the point is

[vestal river]

maybe I am not defining well the colours correctly.

[vestal river]

That's technically a very dark red variation.

[cursive blaze]

also idk where it is but someone spawned a few hundred pups one time and sorted them by colour in arena and some were very distinctly red

imma hop in and try to find some

[tepid cypress]

oh I should do that actually

see if I can find some Scrimblos

[cursive blaze]

its maybe more of a burgundy? but that would still be a red

[tepid cypress]

did it with green lizors yesterday, maybe I could spawn a bunch of pups

[cursive blaze]

its very fun watching them run around

already have 2 pinks

and a hot pink

unrelated but purple guy

[vestal river]

Two dark blue noodles.

[vestal river]

I was thinking. What if white cats had pink fur instead?

[cursive blaze]

heres a better reddish brown

[cursive blaze]

itd be cute

saint pup

nightcat

closer

[vestal river]

Wish slugpups could also have main slugcat skills.

[cursive blaze]

heres a dark red

[cursive blaze]

the beastmaster pup extras mod adds that

or spawning a pup in expedition

another dark red

[queen bramble]

The closest I could get to red was FF504F
#1139727778812538922 message

[cursive blaze]

i mean thats red

[queen bramble]

it is

it is ever so slightly orange though

because the green is higher than blue

the definition of red in CS is FF0000

[cursive blaze]

I’m currently searching for candy apple red and my computer doesn’t like it very much

[queen bramble]

you doing the full 0 to -1?

[cursive blaze]

I have the parameters set from 0-99999999

[queen bramble]

also there's a very big gap of lightness values that aren't possible so have have fun with that

all of these ones are outside of that range

[cursive blaze]

Ok I’m gonna say candy apple red specifically doesn’t exist

[cursive blaze]

Yeah but my computer is already shitting itself

[queen bramble]

the FF504F might be the best you can get

how many cores does your cpu have

[cursive blaze]

Pretty sure it’s just 8

We on that hp pavilion life

[queen bramble]

4 threads should be fine then, if you want your computer to shit itself less you can set it to 2 or so

[cursive blaze]

I have it on 6 bc I’m impatient and my cpu is usually at 15% or less anyways

[queen bramble]

more threads isn't necessarily a good thing for the mod (I think I put this in the mod description, if not then I might have forgotten to put it back after updating the mod once erased the description and I had to rewrite it)

[cursive blaze]

Yeah I think you mentioned you bumped it down from 10 or smth

[queen bramble]

yeah

it's pretty much like this

[cursive blaze]

One time I ran a search for the ff504f and it returned a pure white pup for some reason but that might just be my computer giving up

[queen bramble]

did you set the lightness value

[cursive blaze]

So that’s my problem

Thinking isn’t my strong suit

[queen bramble]

also saturation

when I was searching for the most ___ color pups, I set the saturation to 1 and lightness to 0.5

though the closest it can actually get iirc is 0.65

[cursive blaze]

My dumb ass was putting the hex code in the hue section

[queen bramble]

oh

yeah that won't work

the program will only accept numbers as valid values

even for things that should be booleans (which I just made 0 and 1)

because I was too lazy (and it would be inefficient) to make separate checkbox inputs and such

also blame Unity for making their Random number generator static (shared with the entire game and between all threads) for why I can't make the mod more efficient. I have to force only one thread at a time to generate its random numbers and make the others wait (which I tried to make it so they can do their calculations in that time)

[cursive blaze]

Yeah unity kinda sucks ass sometimes lol

[queen bramble]

I just figured out something I want to try

relating to the Biography mod

I have a mod that makes players have a random chance to explode every frame https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2990219677

this applies to slugpups

I'm curious if it also applies to the biography mod's simulation thingy

[cursive blaze]

Perhaps…..

[queen bramble]

also I want to see if I can complete a hunter run with this mod too

[cursive blaze]

Why………….

[queen bramble]

why do people play inv

[cursive blaze]

Because the reward is funny

[queen bramble]

true

[cursive blaze]

And some people enjoy pain

[queen bramble]

also true

honestly I think it'd be funny to complete a hunter run where I just randomly explode

it's a 1/100000 chance per frame

if I actually attempt this and keep exploding too frequently then I'd probably stop

[cursive blaze]

pick a squinky

[cursive blaze]

too high for me lol

200fps mfers sweating rn

[queen bramble]

I think it's per physics update, which there are 40 per second

[queen bramble]

also if you're not planning on participating in the simulation you know you can disable having a player, right? unless you are

I pick this squnky

[cursive blaze]

sometimes i throw them

[cursive blaze]

piss cat is a good choice

[queen bramble]

I picked them because they're doing some epic parkour and wtf is going on with their sprites

this is my runner up squinky because purple

[cursive blaze]

thoughts on orbuel

[queen bramble]

dark blue, high bravery and sympathy. looks like a nice squinky

[cursive blaze]

im taking pisscat on a journey but i feel like they need a more respectful name

[queen bramble]

my random name generator says "squolp"

[cursive blaze]

perfect

bro is feeling curious

he was too curious

i gave him a spear and he just started stabbing

[queen bramble]

I want to try going on an adventure with these two polar opposite pups: -377261722 and 336737027

the first id there is my favorite scav id overall

solely because of how the personality stats affects its behavior

[cursive blaze]

he is now adaquately curious

[queen bramble]

are you using a mod for your pup appearances?

the ears look bigger than normal

might just be me though

[cursive blaze]

yeah its flirpy cats

[queen bramble]

ah

[cursive blaze]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3038647643

[tepid cypress]

oh I have that one
I disabled it when I was trying to figure out what was making my pups lag out when trying to spawn them, I don't remember if I reenabled it afterwards after yeeting the Guide (the culprit)

[queen bramble]

I haven't played with it other than watching pups explode in arena mode (accident, though in hindsight it's obvious it would have happened considering pups and slugcats share the Player class)

[tepid cypress]

fascinating
ID 9100 makes almost everything blue

[queen bramble]

least sympathetic scav in the positive range of numbers

in life or death, the scav always wins

[tepid cypress]

I vote that this scav be named Jeremy
for no actual reason it was just the first word that came to mind

[weary osprey]

literally no hesitation

goddaw

[queen bramble]

they are scared

[tepid cypress]

wouldn't you be

[queen bramble]

no

I love pups

I don't care if they're becoming a swirling vortex in front of me

[queen bramble]

fun fact: it is possible for needleflies to take on any hue (though because it heavily factors in room palettes into consideration, it is harder to reach all hues)

[queen bramble]

pretty colors

[queen bramble]

holy shit the subscriber count doubled since last I checked (a day ago)

anyway working on update with actual handy features instead of just bugfixes

noodlefly searching is coming with it too

[limpid glen]

WOAAAHHH

[limpid glen]

thats such a pretty noot

[limpid glen]

emerald tweaks?

[tepid cypress]

?
I do have Emerald's Tweaks but what's that got to do with the price of fish

[limpid glen]

emeralds tweaks makes uhh uhhhh new fish obviously thus causing the price go change

[tepid cypress]

oh pff
it's a saying, it's just "what's that got to do with the current topic"

ah, after disabling Shiny Spawns in Emerald's I see what you mean, they're back to boring colors
that's interesting, I didn't know those colors were tied to ID

I'mma keep Shiny Spawns on and keep relating the neat colors tho

well, I spawned some more Greenies
as well as a neat teal color, ID 3684 is a sweetie apparently
0 aggression, 1.00 sympathy

...nevermind, absolutely slaughtered a pup as soon as I spawned it

[limpid glen]

...oh...

[tepid cypress]

I was thinking maybe personality traits are only effective on pups and scavs but I'm not sure

nah, they do affect lizards

hold on imma read up on this

ah
yeah Sympathy and Aggression don't seem to do anything to lizards, it mainly affects scavs and pups
from what I can tell from the wiki, all the personality traits do with lizards is that high-dominance lizors are harder to tame, and energetic white lizors are less likely to wait for ambushing

I might be missing something tho, im about to go to bed anyway

[limpid glen]

ive seen another like it

hell it might actually be that exact one cuz i remember 3 being the first number

nope just checked its not the same one but it is almost the same color although it doesnt have the redish tail

[grave kernel]

They look like a Cthulhu knockoff

[primal heath]

[grave kernel]

Not all scavengers are created equal

But I love all of them lol

[primal heath]

me too scavs are amazing

[grave kernel]

I approve of this message

[limpid glen]

how did it go

[queen bramble]

I haven't yet

[limpid glen]

oh

misread

[queen bramble]

we'll see if I can get it working but this might be in the next major id search mod update (and also probably an elite version as well because they have slightly differing behaviors)

it will be a very computationally heavy process though

(this is how many random numbers it has to pull for each id, and I haven't tested its accuracy yet)

[queen bramble]

it's not going well but here's a red scav I found accidentally while trying to look for a blue one

it thinks the distance here is 0.03, it's actually ~0.6667 so I'm definitely messing up a calculation somewhere along the way.

holy crap I didn't know you could actually spear things in arena solely using your mouse (it's a bit hard tho)

[queen bramble]

apparently I'm overgenerating numbers, I generated up to n=68 looking for the colors for id 149 but the actual GenerateColors function finished with n=61

I'll look into that tomorrow when it's not 2am

[limpid glen]

i can actually make arenas now yay

[limpid glen]

ill start a search for it using your mod i have 8 hours to leave it loading after all

also shame there is no way to reverse engineer the ID so it uses the traits and colors to create an ID but i dont think its tooooo possible

[queen bramble]

You won’t be able to get FF0800 (as I’m sure you might have discovered by now if you’ve been checking it)

[limpid glen]

oh i cant check yet im in school i kinda just left my pc running lol

fun fact i can run 30 threads

(im 100% sure what threads are but im pretty sure)

but we shall see tho cuz im checking as many as i can in 8 hours if i dont see anything of that color then ya its not possible

[night canyon]

how do id finder mod work

spawning a lot of scavs and lizard is boring

[hasty gull]

you enter stats and then search and it gives you an id that has stats as close to those as possible

[limpid glen]

well you download it go into its remix menu and then click the scav color thing and enter the hex value you wish to search for

[night canyon]

thanks

[limpid glen]

ofc ive never looked for scav coloration i have only done pups

Also im looking for all of the colors of the DLC cats

in pup form

[limpid glen]

after looking at what FF800 is ya i dont think its gonna be possible but i guess i shall see

[queen bramble]

I haven’t added scav coloration yet because I haven’t figured it out yet. Working on that though, I’ve got some things I want to try when I have time later

Scavs are the most complex creatures in the game, not just in AI but also in how they generate their graphics it’s seriously unreal and I have to offset the RNG so it will actually generate correctly and that’s a pain because how much I have to offset it varies

[limpid glen]

oof

[limpid glen]

btw is it "impossible" or theoretically impossible to get FF800

[queen bramble]

impossible because of the range of the L part of the HSL hues generated

[limpid glen]

i see

[queen bramble]

not counting dark pups, the lowest it can get (off the top of my head) is 0.65 and what you're looking for is around 0.5

it will be a lighter version of the color when you look at the result

[limpid glen]

hmmm

welp its a shame i cant shut off my pc remotely cuz its still working at 30 threads on the 8 trillion

its been going for 4 hours now lol

[queen bramble]

how many cores does it have

[limpid glen]

no idea but it seemed to handle 30 fine when i was checking it

as long as its not exponetial

it should be fine

[queen bramble]

well the problem with more threads is actually this

[limpid glen]

interesting

[queen bramble]

at least for my program since only 1 thread can be generating the random numbers at a time (thanks Unity)

[limpid glen]

so what would be the optimum amount

[queen bramble]

if you're just searching for one item, keeping it around 4 is more optimal imo

[limpid glen]

mk

[queen bramble]

if you're searching for more things at a time, then bumping it up works better because the threads will take longer doing computations allowing for other threads to access the rng function

[limpid glen]

i see

[queen bramble]

right now your computer is probably going at the speed of setting the thread count to 1

which admittedly shouldn't take long, before I made this mod and I was using a terribly made script for it, it only took like 30 minutes to find slugpup colors when searching over all ids

[limpid glen]

but the workload on the CPU isnt an exponetial increase depending on the time running

right?

[queen bramble]

based on my knowledge of how the cpu works, it depends on how many cores your cpu has

my computer has 12

[limpid glen]

k

well my pc should have an temp cap and it will shut off it is breached

anyway gotta go cuz its class again bye

[queen bramble]

it should be fine I think, iirc .NET will start assigning threads to the same core at some point and just having them run simultaneously

[night canyon]

cool

[exotic dust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/983381723523997728/1156945378160148562/9930_2.gif?ex=6516d0d9&is=65157f59&hm=6d3daca5185cdd89575f24a3c107b3a4047794cf5667b4f1ccf6d5974860417e&

somebody find the id of this scav

hes silly

[night canyon]

[heavy merlin]

bro

lemme show u magic

nvm i wont

[night canyon]

what why im finding no no pages about scavengers im just looking for references for sacv values like pupils and antlers

scav

[queen bramble]

Eartlers are something I probably won’t be adding to the search mod outside of maybe number of points. Mostly because you can’t really represent them as a number because it generates the relative locations of each vertex and also like 100 random numbers out

[night canyon]

is there any way to get references for that like what value to imput if you want big eyes

thanks

[queen bramble]

Try deep pupils 1

[night canyon]

ok

thanks

[queen bramble]

Also is there a pupil size option I forgot

[night canyon]

yes i see it how does it work

[queen bramble]

If there is one then don’t set the deep pupils and just set that to 1 or something

[night canyon]

ok

little question

what does the thread thing do

[queen bramble]

Don’t touch it

[night canyon]

ok

[queen bramble]

Also more on this, most inputs will only have valid values between 0 and 1 (slugpup food preferences range from -1 to 1 and a few others are integers)

[night canyon]

ok thanks

[primal heath]

SHREK SCAV\

8851

[viscid barn]

I found footage of the first miros bird taking flight

[low flower]

wtf buoyant miros bird

[viscid barn]

well they do swim

but I'm wondering why does it float

[left kayak]

secretly a balloon

[viscid barn]

it's evolving into a miros vulture

[robust drum]

that is so many leeches

fun fact, apparently miros birds do not drown

[viscid barn]

yeah

that's how I learned leeches deal damage

[viscid barn]

I had an idea (on switch so can't mod/edit stuff)

give a green lizard (or some other lizard) EVERY lizard attribute

and I mean ALL of them

including ones that aren't normally on green lizards

I wanna see one with antenna, whiskers, gills, cyan rings, EVERYTHING

[cursive blaze]

I gave pinks every ability except spitting and it’s pretty fun

[viscid barn]

here's the normal chart

[viscid barn]

can I see the clip?

or whatever you have

it's the lizard

[cursive blaze]

Idk if I have a clip but when I hop on tomorrow I’ll post a pic here

[robust drum]

what

[cursive blaze]

heres one

[vale eagle]

hello msc arena chat

i made a ball of twine

im loving this
just descovered creature pausing

[limpid glen]

@queen bramble cuz your online id like to ask does the ID mod need exact like thousandths place decimal values or does it round to the nearest tenth

[queen bramble]

You can just put in 1 and it will find the closest value to 1. It just needs a number to get close to

also if you leave it blank it will ignore that trait

you only need as much precision as you want

[limpid glen]

so it uses the input value you put to find a value that isnt one of the last decimal place less then the current value

[queen bramble]

It tries to minimize the distance between your input and the actual values from the id

usually it will return something very close to your value

[limpid glen]

so if i say input 0.98 and the actual ID value is 0.97834738 it will return it?

[queen bramble]

if it can't find anything closer

yes

[limpid glen]

so it will only return the value after aborting the process it doesnt write the ID while in work

[queen bramble]

when you abort the process it will return the closest value it could find in what it was able to search

if you let it run it will eventually return the closest value within the entire range

[limpid glen]

i see

[queen bramble]

the abort button is only there because some user wanted the ability to cancel the search mid-way through

[limpid glen]

so this would be the closest found ID correct?

[queen bramble]

yes

[limpid glen]

noted

does it do it 1 by 1 or randomly skipping around?

[queen bramble]

it splits it up and searches multiple ids at the same time 1 by 1

[limpid glen]

huh

[queen bramble]

that's what the threads are for, but I recommend not touching it because they also have to share the same random number system

[limpid glen]

i ran this for 0.5 seconds

[queen bramble]

yeah it doesn't take long to search 100,000 ids

[limpid glen]

well thats impressive

[queen bramble]

if you want to search over all ids you have to search the range 0 to -1

and you have to paste -1 into the thing because of how rain world does its number inputs

[limpid glen]

ik

another thing that should be added

[queen bramble]

what

[limpid glen]

is you know how is Usually ID.-1. ID HERE

[queen bramble]

yes

[limpid glen]

i have an exclusive ID that is 9024

i call it spooder scav lol

[queen bramble]

I don't think there is any difference between any of the entities with differing first numbers

because the second number is what seeds the random number generator

and thus all the values

[limpid glen]

ill check it

also this is spooder scav

you are correct

dam this has a perfect 1 in agression

well needless to say this mod is quite literally a game changer

[cursive blaze]

sleepy pals

[cursive blaze]

love when they do that

flight

[queen bramble]

turn on the kaboom mod

[cursive blaze]

[limpid glen]

the sat and light values might be switched

[queen bramble]

no the lightness value doesn't change when the pup is "dark"

set "Dark?" to 0 and try again I guess

[limpid glen]

alright

[queen bramble]

also I figured out what was causing you to get 0's

[limpid glen]

ill do a short test this time

[queen bramble]

it was me being an idiot and not realizing when a method was called

[limpid glen]

out of a million this is what it returned

[queen bramble]

Is that the color you were going for?

[limpid glen]

the same one i have been

[heavy merlin]

gree!1!1!! n

[heavy merlin]

guys new iterator just dropped

[limpid glen]

i've never been more terrified of a slug before

[heavy merlin]

i love this face sprite

he summoned a cube

terrifying cloud of scrimblo

HEL

HELP

WHAT THE FUCK DID I CREATE

a discipline hat

he wont hesitate to hit u with it

this dumbass licked a cold pipe

now hes stuck

[jovial sand]

all these lantern mice are like siblings

[limpid glen]

sounds like a pure lack of skill

:>

[primal heath]

scav with long tail

[weary osprey]

the skrank

[heavy merlin]

he has disease

[viscid barn]

it spread

[heavy merlin]

ioh no

[night canyon]

sorry but whats that mod

[cursive blaze]

visible id shows the stats and colours

[limpid glen]

ya its visible IDs

i also use the biography or catatlogue (i forget what its called) to view IDs for what they really are and really look like

[left kayak]

point

[left kayak]

how even

[thin torrent]

the gang is bacj

here's joe being joe doing joe things

joe has hunte

how many zoops will it take

joe died

ribbons

kelly spawned with bomb spears but he is super nervous

when joe got bit things got slow

kelly managed to get himself a kill

bro is terrified

despite being a fremd kooblar managed to win with a close grenafe

joe's ID as an elite scav

what should i test the beast n

[queen bramble]

I've got news for y'all who like the id finder mod: I think I've figured out scavenger colors finally

[viscid barn]

red lizard, give him some extra spears

if that doesn't kill red centipede

if you have beastmaster ||AI arti dream thing idk what it's called||

[thin torrent]

the red lizard instakilled

[queen bramble]

red lizard instakills everything except scav king iirc, who is instead simply incapacitated

[thin torrent]

not even war crimes joe could survive the rdd

[queen bramble]

what about crime boss joe

[thin torrent]

joe as an elite got kill

[queen bramble]

joe as an elite is not crime boss joe

[thin torrent]

who is crime boss joe

[queen bramble]

scavenger king joe

[thin torrent]

crime boss joe looks like eleite joe

he survives but he's a chew toy for a red lizard

what happened to the baby scavs

[queen bramble]

what are you doing to them

end their suffering

[queen bramble]

killing creatures with your mouse is satisfying for some reason

[cursive blaze]

bro pulled the spear out and kept going

[queen bramble]

btw I got elite color searching working as well (they have different colors than their normal counterparts)

[cursive blaze]

fancy

[hidden sparrow]

shame that slugcats are the only creatures that can be hurt and killed by fall damage tbh

[viscid barn]

yeah'

[queen bramble]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

lmao snippping tool couldn't keep up with the pups

[queen bramble]

the most aggressive pink scavenger and its corresponding pink slugpup (a funny coincidence)

and also a pup I used to test how aggressive it was that I revived

[robust drum]

this is just the color pink concentrated into a creature i think

[queen bramble]

the rot pit

[odd umbra]

Guess the one in a coma

[queen bramble]

both

[tepid cypress]

POV: you are Five Pebbsi

[thin torrent]

is it a full evil

like joe

1 agg 0 sym

kelly and his son

[viscid barn]

can we get joe the child?

[queen bramble]

Yes

[thin torrent]

if joe had a child he wouldn't be able to go hunting miros vultures because he would have a tiny scav child to care for

joe wants to wander the world and kill everything

[viscid barn]

joe as a child I mean

(slugpup joe)

[viscid barn]

now give it some spears and make it fight a lizard

[thin torrent]

ima go easy on the lil man

[viscid barn]

oof

[thin torrent]

i made a perch on the right and tried to spear thwe lizard and directly hurt mini joe

[viscid barn]

he has the spirit, just not the skill

[thin torrent]

time to frankenstein

slugpups are just weak ig

will he win

of course he did

5 cyans

he's doing weird things with his arms

joe is incapacitated by a cyan and all the others are dead

joe

[tardy obsidian]

https://i.gyazo.com/c6880a5cbae448d26b210b7218963fb1.mp4
Robbin (10001) is one hell of a scav

[thin torrent]

robbin vs joe

[viscid barn]

W H A T

bro is a gatling gun

[weary osprey]

what...

[low flower]

WTF

[viscid barn]

they are joe's aprentence

that takes SO much aggression to have that short of a wind-up

[primal heath]

scav ID 8500 has a massive head

(this is 8500)

STICK ARMS

[tardy obsidian]

Lmao, high aggression stat with absurd stats for all things combat does that to an mf

https://i.gyazo.com/329d81162109ed8049e6f230959ab0de.mp4
another Robbin clip

[limpid glen]

scary scav

[tardy obsidian]

He ate a minigun

[limpid glen]

he is powered by moons lost rarefaction cells

[tardy obsidian]

Eated all of them

[limpid glen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1056537319106170920.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

he makes riv look bad

and spearmaster

[tardy obsidian]

Smh, they're not Robbin, so they are

[limpid glen]

robbin is what replaced spearmaster when srs felt bad for them

💀

[tardy obsidian]

Lol

[limpid glen]

the true perfect organism

he just a lil crazy

[thin torrent]

robbin vs joe vs this slugg

[brazen hemlock]

pink

[thin torrent]

i have a pink scag

[limpid glen]

pretty scav

[thin torrent]

y no machine gun????

[tardy obsidian]

It usually happens when he tries to parry spers

spears*

[thin torrent]

he tries to parry

[tardy obsidian]

And he doesn't always throw many

[thin torrent]

i'll try that

[tardy obsidian]

Dual with him for long enough and he should do it, also double check you have the right id of 10001

[thin torrent]

his block and melee are uusually high for his low personality stats but the parrying being high explains the machine gun

hand of the minigun

[tardy obsidian]

Yep!

[thin torrent]

i'll see if joe has the same skill

i never do this with joe because if i fight joe i become slugsauce

joe has even better parry

joe is good at everything

ofc he has the machinegun hand

crazy

[viscid barn]

yeah

I don't think anyone has really fought joe like that

[thin torrent]

we need to do more war crimes joe testing

he can fire spears like a minigun, level miros birds, and killeda vulture with two rocks he needs to be stopped

its hard to test him because he always kills em when i spawn him in

it just

doesn't end

war crimes joe has a maximum block stats, but what about kelly, who has basically no defense stats

yeah kelly has no gunhand

[viscid barn]

I don't think kelly knows that you can block

[thin torrent]

he still doesn't get hit

he has no dodge

he just stands there

and you miss

[robust drum]

W

WHAT

WHAT.

machine gun scav

[thin torrent]

scavs with good block ability block spears but often miss

so they just throw them

robbin is a good example but any scav with good blk stat will provide a minigun

[limpid glen]

do these stats affect slugpups?

and is high reaction or low reaction good

[viscid barn]

all the white ones are scag exclusive I think

[queen bramble]

best pink scav 2111957238

[limpid glen]

yall think your scavs are good lmao

[limpid glen]

dam bro thats a good scav

when a scav knows you have porls

[cursive blaze]

squolp disagrees

[thin torrent]

heh...

[limpid glen]

he only has one thing on his mind MURDER

[thin torrent]

war crimes joe

[limpid glen]

my scav would kill joe

that reaction is 0 meaning it would react as soon as something is in sight

[thin torrent]

your only advantage is dodge

[limpid glen]

no

[thin torrent]

you haven't seen joe fight

he has the same power as robbin

[limpid glen]

the reaction time is on crack

[limpid glen]

tbh i havent see my scav fight either cuz i am working on something else

[thin torrent]

since the dodge for joe is pretty high it's a matter of perfection vs reaction

[limpid glen]

i just randomly found them xD

[thin torrent]

joe has everything he's good at locked down and maxed out

but joe isn't good at reacting

[limpid glen]

for now.....

[thin torrent]

also your scav has high nrv

your scav would get scared more than joe

0.95

that's almost as high as kelly

while the high nrg leads to good reaction nervousness may cause yours to stumble while joe fires 4 spears in one line

[limpid glen]

i just reallized... doesnt this make us gods looking for our perfect campion to fight amongst other gods?

to them i mean arent we kinda like that?

[limpid glen]

this is my scav it doesnt have 95 lol

[pale gulch]

im valhalla and is my champions

[queen bramble]

scav hell

also screen recorder quality hell

oopsies

[queen bramble]

the id finder mod has now been updated; you can search for scav colors and big noodlefly colors now and see how far through the current search the mod is

[cursive blaze]

that just aint how nervousness works lol

they dont just flee like pups

[thin torrent]

and it has no reaction

and sympathy far too high

[limpid glen]

hello chat

send me your most pretty/unique scavvies

or just a neat looking scav i could care less

[viscid barn]

also fun thing, using gourm and fire spears, you can disable vulture wings

leave them jumping around trying to escape

[cursive blaze]

can you pin the wings to their body?

[limpid glen]

i love them sm ty

[night canyon]

[viscid barn]

sadly no, I wonder if you can pin a wing to a wall though....

I once pinned a vulture's head on rivulet

[limpid glen]

firebugs without eggs

fun fact

they maul you

other fun fact

when you revive them

they regain fire spears but not eggs

other other fun fact

when you kill them and they have no eggs

they don't explode

https://static.miraheze.org/rainworldwiki/2/22/FirebugWalk.gif

[thin torrent]

what should i do with the scav gang

kelly, ribbons, kooblar, and war crimes joe

[hasty gull]

yes that is their main thing

[limpid glen]

i didn't notice it on my playthrough of saint

[thin torrent]

i did that one challenge

so i know my firebugs

[left kayak]

I'm putting you in the SCAVENGER ROOM

[queen bramble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139727778812538922/1157889859415965816/20231001-0400-08.2546164.mp4

[viscid barn]

give them 5 firebugs to fight

those things are viscous

and scags have an attacks relation (for some reason)

[queen bramble]

revamping the UI of my id finder mod to be more intuitive than just number inputs, replacing all the stuff in-code is tedious but the slugpup stats one is the worst so far since I had to manually compute the ranges from the calculations

also side note for those people searching for slugpup stats, those tuples are the ranges for those inputs (unless I miscomputed one)

[pale gulch]

angy spuglup

[queen bramble]

probably doesn't even flinch while committing murder

[limpid glen]

you think that is an angy scug?

ill show you angy scug

[left kayak]

what should I name this

creature

I must add this purple pup to my family

[queen bramble]

my terrible name generator generated "flup" or "skeeby"

[viscid barn]

flueby

[umbral meteor]

wanderer is avenging their sibling

[cursive blaze]

idk about terrible, so far its produced squolp, flup, and skeeby, thats a succes in my books

[queen bramble]

I say terrible because I haven’t mentioned the rest of the names

Those were handpicked from like 50 each

[queen bramble]

old: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139727778812538922/1154929503026544650/20230922-2356-37.2318948.mp4

new:

[weary osprey]

[queen bramble]

this took less time than I thought it would

except for the part where the game crashed every time I clicked one of those checkboxes for like 2 hours straight

I may need to expand the box size

[low flower]

I cant wait to find the neon pink scav id

[queen bramble]

estimated time
this one took way longer than it should have to figure out

[queen bramble]

also should I change this to be hh:mm:ss (the hh: part would be hidden if unnecessary) or keep it like this

[limpid glen]

amazing

[night canyon]

yooo

cool

[night canyon]

amazing

[viscid barn]

if only I had steam version :(

[night canyon]

you can install mods im rain db but they dont get updated every day

[queen bramble]

you can't install mods on Nintendo Switch

[viscid barn]

pain

I want ID finder and such :(

[livid roost]

KSHDJHHN they look so stupid

[weary osprey]

beautiful

[livid roost]

behave

no throwing rocks

WHY

he has such a big head

[weary osprey]

why is he so stretched

[livid roost]

he didnt want to get off the ground

new favourite scav

30026

[weary osprey]

paralyzed by fear

[queen bramble]

lmao

[livid roost]

hes so crinkly

[viscid barn]

cool yellow I found

he got funny tail thing

also blue snail

[cursive blaze]

Camouflage

[viscid barn]

sneak 100

does anything prey on snails?

I guess rot

red lizards are fuckin scary

I had one take down TEN KING VULTURES in arena

like WTF

[hasty gull]

that's what happens when you can bite once every 2 frames and deal 4 damage per bite

[viscid barn]

true

and also have more rage in your body then blood

[hasty gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1127577485589086248/1129028536087363655/2023-07-13_14-35-32.mp4

the world if red lizards weren't afraid of red centipedes

[viscid barn]

video hasn't even loaded yet and I'm afraid

WHAT

IT WAS DEAD INSTANTLY

vultures should have a fear rating with rizzards instead

[hasty gull]

not dead just stunned instantly

[viscid barn]

yeah

[hasty gull]

but at the end of that it did kill all 4 centipedes

[sullen brook]

conductor, bottom text

[hasty gull]

what's conductor

[sullen brook]

[proper plaza]

how do i simply just remove creatures

having a pit with 4 mother long legs isnt the most efficient thing!

[viscid barn]

singularity bomb

[proper plaza]

frail arms

[limpid glen]

get the mouse drag mod and just delete everything

[proper plaza]

thanks

[hasty gull]

drag them out of geometry

they will fall out

[tepid cypress]

Yeah, Mouse Drag is best for deleting stuff
Either using the built-in delete, or dragging them outside the map, since pits will void things
I believe a few creatures like Leviathans also void things they attack but I'm not 100% on that

I know all Rot cysts definitely void anything they consume

[cursive blaze]

there are some floors that have collision pretty far down and creatures can sometimes crawl out somehow

[limpid glen]

yes leviathans delete upon attack (not sure if its a full delete or not) however it is to be duely noted that when they attack a giant jelly the stuff isnt going to be deleted

[limpid glen]

HOWEVER!!!! for some reason beehives dont get deleted by the void and scavs hold them and even when doing that with other things if you are mass deleting stuff it will still lag your game if not deleted right so its not the solve all solution

rot cysts i (think) work but the rot isnt efficient so i havent used it before

[cursive blaze]

the rot is very good at absorbing

[queen bramble]

cancer

also is this what happens to rot cysts with the rotund mod?

[limpid glen]

[low flower]

[limpid glen]

[cursive blaze]

yes

eventually they start violently spinning and vibrating, often noclipping

[queen bramble]

poor thing hasn't learned it can't eat lol

also anyone know why spear pup is "sweating"?

they were revived with the mouse drag mod if that has anything to do with it

corn

[cursive blaze]

yeah when theyre revived they tend to sweat and get exhausted causing seizures

its a similar state to starving

same for revivify

i like the spinning though

[queen bramble]

is this like something in the base game or did both mods do the same implementation

[queen bramble]

also the pups have eaten all the corn already

[cursive blaze]

i dont know of a way to revive in base game beyond the respawn command so i think they both went for the same implementation

[cursive blaze]

snackers

[weary osprey]

Can spear pup consistently feed itself

[queen bramble]

the spear pup had some trouble

[cursive blaze]

with your help yes

[weary osprey]

A forest

[cursive blaze]

you can convince them to pick up their own spear bc it takes a moment to disconnect and they can stab for food

[queen bramble]

also I spawned a single grenade and it somehow multiplied

[weary osprey]

Incheresting

[cursive blaze]

or if they wont pick it up you can give them food near some prey and take the needle for yourself

itll still feed them if it isnt disconnected

[weary osprey]

O

[cursive blaze]

but the timing is a bit dumb so its not really a reliable method unfortunately

[queen bramble]

how annoying is riv pup

since I think it has riv speed

[cursive blaze]

depends on whether you enjoy watching them backflip into oblivion

[queen bramble]

I think I read the beastmaster mod pretty much spawns the player as the class and then converts it to a pup with pup ai

[cursive blaze]

if theyre low energy it can be funny but otherwise they just end up being hard to handle

[queen bramble]

which is why if you try duplicating it it just spawns a normal player

how about saint pup

since it can't control its tongue

[cursive blaze]

they can use it, they just dont know how

[queen bramble]

wow riv pup is fast I set them on a flat surface and they zoom

[cursive blaze]

ive had many a saint pup leash themselves to a random point in a room

[queen bramble]

lmao I accidentally killed saint pup because I dragged them and the tongue disconnected and the pup went flying

[cursive blaze]

[queen bramble]

wait how the fuck did it leash onto survivor through the ceiling

[cursive blaze]

yeah saint tongue can do thatt

if the floor is thin it can just shoot through

[queen bramble]

misery

[cursive blaze]

i do it to mess with scavs sometimes

you can drag them along the floor and they just panic

it can even go through walls

[queen bramble]

if I were this scav I would be a bit more concerned about the two sticky tongues latched onto my crotch

[cursive blaze]

doing it to squinky

[cursive blaze]

goomba stomped

[maiden imp]

Revivity affects mouse drag revive i think. If not please let me know.

[cursive blaze]

That would be interesting, i used revivify first so this is the only version of mouse drag I’ve seen

[queen bramble]

I don't have Revivity

or Revivify or any mod that can revive outside of Mouse Drag

[maiden imp]

Then i need to fix bugs

[limpid glen]

😭

[viscid barn]

is this one purple? I'm not doing the server challenge, it just looks cool

[robust drum]

hard to say

[viscid barn]

gren

[robust drum]

some mice are like a periwinkle shade, but that's not exactly purple

i found a pink mouse once

[limpid glen]

mice have a chance of being any color

to my knowledge

[queen bramble]

yep

[limpid glen]

#000000 too?

[queen bramble]

no any hue

saturation and lightness are determined by their charge

[limpid glen]

what about pure white hue

is that possible

or

[queen bramble]

that's not how hue works

[limpid glen]

how does it work

[queen bramble]

lightness 1 = pure white

lightness 0 = pure black

this is hsl

[limpid glen]

oh i see

[queen bramble]

and actually the unique colors in hsl form a double cone

though when we input hsl we're plotting on the cylinder

[queen hill]

doing a funny thing where i try and kill all lizards consecutively and each time i die i have to fight that lizard twice (except for orange ive been spawning 2 of them)

not counting this one.. poor dude got stuck in the floor

[queen bramble]

idiot

[queen hill]

as of current i have to kill 2 moles, 3 caramels, and 2 strawbs per round

this is atroctious

however u spell it

i feel this is mildly worrying

i think i need to clear the lizard box..

oh god wait. i have to do the red lizard now

oh goodness me

wish me luck

Yeah ok I died

not redoing all this ill just fight the red til i kill it

I EMERGE VICTORIOUS

bird huntin

i dont think these were neccessary

[queen hill]

got too silly

i feel i may be posting too many but this one in particular scares me like the miros vulture one so i feel a need to put it here

[viscid barn]

I've never seen one in action, but trains sound scary

if they had red lizard relations instead of default

[proper plaza]

I need to download the blood mod

[queen hill]

i stabbed a brother long legs to death during that time aswell

and a few more of just. generally most of the enemies i fought in those screenshots

[limpid glen]

Stabbing a dll to death is so hard even as spearmaster

[queen hill]

i tried a few times

did not work </3

[limpid glen]

I have as well but once time I killed one

I used the health bar to see If I was even doing anything

I was

Just a very small amount

Killing a Miros bird is pretty easy cuz they are stupid

They just cling to one wall

As for reds I've killed quite a few

Haven't tried trains yet tho

They seem stupid hard to kill

[queen hill]

miros vultures are actually HORRENDOUS to kill

the eye beam hardly indicates where their explosive fires and theyre so sparratic you can hardly track one

the explosion beam triggers after each hit

[weary osprey]

i can barely notice the eye beam, I genuinely wonder why they didn't make it like KVs

make it visible ffs

[queen hill]

it doesnt even indicate where the explosive will go like 90% of the time

[weary osprey]

it's really annoying when they're at a horizontal angle cause like

what do you do

[queen hill]

usually when theyre on the ground they cant aim luckily

but its

pretty hard to damage them enough

to get them grounded

[limpid glen]

Been there done that all you really need is a nice place to plop into before they fire

[weary osprey]

i just use stuff like jellyfish usually

[queen hill]

if youre in an arena like the testing one i use you arent getting that spot