#MSC Arena
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hes eyes be goofy
I LOVE SILLY EYES
which one should be saved from the MLL (there are 6 options)
more goofy eyes
you can only save one box the rest get eaten by the MLL
WHO GETS SAVED FROM THE MLL
slugcat, white caramel, blue scav, scrimblo, kelly, or KELLY
kill them all
save the sleepy slug
ok
oooo this is a pretty scav
there goes the white caramel lizard
scrimblo will not scrimblo anymore
silicon disappeared
rest in peace scrimblo
you cannot fight it no matter how many kellys are gone
nobody will understand if i just call silicon silicon
lone kelly never stood a chance
gone now is the blue scav, you might have looked like a DLL, but you didn't know the diet of rot.
you saved the slugcat. WHY????????
if you loved rot, this was the WRONG answer
HIS EYES AHAH
look at the scary scav
0.02 agg and 0.93 sym
hey kelly i found a thing to experiment on or maybe to give to a lizard to chew on
krllly seems to be doing normal experiments
any clue what he's doing in here
what is this pipe for
he appears to be making lanterns out of lantern mice. And this poor mouse fell down the pipe it seems
grenades come from the arti room
oh no
weird rug
Artipup
this isn't arena related, this is just me playing with a homemade level, but I learned slugpups can be dragged around by neuron flies and I love it. For the player it's just the arms that get dragged
i was playing PA and this was a bit of a problem trying to feed my pups
slup go weeeee
do they still fly around if you take a bite?
ik moon still accepts them but
Children :D


They are being repeatedly incapacitated
I see
cutie...
red lizards are vicious beasts that kill you upon touching their mouth
sometimes u dont even need to touch their mouth
Precisely why I question the gif
you cannot survive a red liz bite
bro is a pacifist
thats a friend to me
83 agg
very angy
oh god no
the pacifist is gonna get murdered
sneeborp
why dey look like orange soda doe
vortex
What is going on
I was setting up creatures in an arena and my overseer died in acid lol
how 
i spawned a shit ton of vultures and then dragged them all together
the colors and the way they're all clumped together like that
ah, yes, manmade horrors beyond my comprehension
bro looks like a kicked puppy
the silly
strbry :D
weird dog....

time for the semi-daily scringlo dump
whats up with his eyes
99 agg and 0.03 sym
bros ready for war
and heres the exact opposite of the scav above
99 sym and 0 agg
fren 
90 energy and silly eyes
certified dingus
want out
MENACE
fr
why does it look like he's wearing a skull 
Desire incarnate
this is probably the least red lizard looking red lizard I've ever seen
they don't have all the frills and such
and are a salmon color
they just a lil goofy
oh my god it does 
also im suprised nobody commented on le dingus yet
looks like a goofy side character for an animated movie
rainbow of pups
heehee
Zen
Blonk
i found actual pure white
thats just eye color ;-;
he likes brain bits
ooooo
i closed out of that ID luckily i have eidetic memory so i remembered the ID even tho i didnt pay attention to it
i'll trade that ID for a green mouse
ill give it too you for nothing
here
Idk if albinism is ID based but if it is here is the ID of an albino king vulture i just killed
warcrimes :D
no its not
but i found out if you do
spawn KingVulture AlternateForm it will spawn an albino vulture
its the AlernateForm tag that determines the color
it isn't
oh yoi know
btw this one has pitch black eyes to match with pure white coloration
strangely, vultures are the only creatures i know affected by the AlternateForm tag
jetfish
no cuz ive tested it
i've also tested AlternateForm jetfish
odd
cuz when i found an albino jetfish and reused its ID it wasnt albino
there's also the Winter tag
ik
gives lizareds horns and fur
makes spiders pale
and gives blue yeeks!
i kept the ID of a yeek that helped me in saint
yep ive played saint
rn im going through a bunch of pup IDs to find rare colorations
also!
i found out the spawn chance of each color after spawning 700 pups
AlternateForm jetfish
1225
purple is not even close to the rarest color
ya
but anyway
would you like to know the actual spawn chances for all pup colors
nor do i
either devconsole doesn't have an autocomplete for the tag or it is way deeper coded
not campaign related because i spawned some in with bm
brb\
HOW ARE YOU THIS WAY
i don't need any testing to tell you you aren't getting one of these with any tags
time to hunter
nope nothing has changed
my only remaining theory is that when in the leviathan room they are white and if you took an albino jetfish outside of that room it would go purple?
wuh
so it works like that but for regions
nevermind
i shouldn't look into it, it is dangerous
do tell
oof
white: 20.7%
red: 0.6%
orange: 0.6
yellow: 5.9%
green: 25.6%
blue: 10.3
pink: 5.8
purple: 6.8
brown: 2.1
gray: 1
black: 16.6
those are the spawnable pup colors
my current goal is to find a perfect scarlet red pup
this is a pretty color pup
not what im looking for but still notable
im trying to get that very thin line of red
where did you get a pup colour pallette
oh wait the wiki has pallettes
and the pallette is in the files
its just a matter of sorting which ones are which
saint pup lol
ik i just thought it was funny cuz they closed their eyes when i took the picture
that always happens with my pups
kewl
pup dump?
The spawnable pup colors are generated using weighted HSV, not predefined things.
Also color definitions are relative
and yet after spawning 700 pups those are the numbers i ended up with
k?
You can’t define an accurate percentage based on 0.00001% of the population
you dont have to spawn every pup out there to get a semi accurate percentage
It’s RNG though which is the problem
comparisin between your pup and saitpup
if it was puriely RNG then red would be more common but its not
As I said the colors are weighted but the base values are RNG
It does math on them to bias them towards green/blue
one purple but most are green or blue
it picks a random place on a predefined palette what i have is the chance for it to select a certain region on the pallette
how do we even know what the process is behind the random selection
after spawning a big enough amount of a certain thing the percentage of which a thing can spawn becomes appearent
Hue: #1130474435405680680 message
Saturation, value, and darkness: #1130474435405680680 message
from the testing i've figured that on the brightness spectrum it's more likely to be very pale or very dark and you doon't usually get things like the blue one in the corner
You can decompile it to look at the code
ok but slugularity
kudos for actually looking at the code itself but still the numbers have value because if you do spawn an amount the percentage does appear to follow my numbers
Another problem is what defines the boundary between yellow and green
Or other close colors
ya that was a problem that had to be faced but there is never an exact middle one luckily
There is that you haven’t found
true
you really were determined xD
L O N G . . .
any tips as to how to fix beastmaster when it isnt working?
why he standing like that tho
MR.LONG XD
i used him when testing deer slides
deer can fly 
mr long be looking a little long today 
who won
Twiggy looks injured but MR.LONG is sitting down
wait wtf
oh and there's also bugs
MR. LONG has huge thin antlers, twiggy has a clump that's basically pure antler, and bugs forgor his antlers and instead grew antannae
bugs also does not have emotions so you can call him bugs however much you want
even if he got angry with his 0 aggressiveness he wouldn't be able to attack you
oof
i spawned some deer for them to interact with and bugs is just constantly bowing while MR. LONG is deticated to stepping on everyone else
raindeer just slowly slide toward you in mid air its kinda creepy
when your mom hears you open the fridge

here's the personalities of the trynamic trio
bugs has no emotions, mr. long is an absolute criminal, and twiggy is just normal
i threw a spear at bugs and he is not moving
meanwhile, MR. LONG is stepping on him and twiggy is just vibin
oh no it's kelly
also when i asked bing AI what rain world creature this was it told me it was a purple lizard, which live in industrial complex and reel in prey with their tongues. They are usually peaceful towards the slugcat, but fight other lizards for territory
this was what i showed it
and also that this was a vulture
also kelly fell into a small hole someone help him
wait i just realized i can rapid spawn scugs then just record me rapid spawning them and if i see one i want just look at the footage
mr long doesn't want to help kelly
kelly doesn't want to grab twiggy's antlers
and there is no way he would reach those
help him
i just went through over 200 IDs
will any of them help kelly out of the hole
i have an idea
ball
dim
wait can scavs actually use rain deer antlers?
naw ive done some fucking around with the inventory mod and albino jetfish are always albino no matter where you take them
ornj
red
blu
pupl
gren
peenk
still am yet to find pure black
i will find it
this is the closest i have to pure black rn
i guess a little bit closer?
slowly i march on to the perfect color
wooooaaaahhhh Fade
its a word
:D
almost looks like FORCED
the farther we go...
but yet i am looking for pure vanta black
to this day we don't know how they make the jetfish albino
also no
:0
so black...
the difference is recognizable
i swear its like playing limbo with pup IDs
how low can i go
000005 and 000000 side by side
one is slightly bluer
i was searching around and inadvertently found monks slugpup ID
why... is its tail so smooth...
i've seen peach colored reds before
unfortunately in ever managed to live long enough to save ids of those 
yall know where i can get the box arena
I think it's part of the "testing arenas" mod
which scavs here look friendly
oh no kelly got angery
please ignore kelly
nevmermind kelly stabed me
kooblar
abd war crimes joe
scags
what to test them again
joes spawned with no weapons
he winning with a rock
just throwing rocks
kelly and kooblar are cowering while joe is killing 1 bird with 2 stones
joe is absolutely mad
the battelefield
and then he found a spear
this will be different
nevermind he can't aim
there goes kelly
free joe
joe got speared so it's al on kooblar
kooblar ins't gihting
who was gonna tell me that if you try to toss rain deer offscreen they just levitate back
if you look at one of my posts you can see ive seen the same thing
kelly, kooblar, war crimes joe, and ribbons
i like kooblar
kelly is very nervous, kooblar is a friemd, war crimes joe wants to kill all, and ribbons is energetic
he's staring at us, he knows something
personality of them
banana boy has banana baby now :D
hehe friend
not only is war crimes joe hyper aggressive, he also has mad combat skills
he killed a vulture with rocks
threw rocks until it died
he caught them midair
while kelly and kooblar cowered in the corner
there's also those ones
not to be dramatic but i'd die for scringle
king vulture
am i really the only active ID hunter anymore?
i have IDs for trade
i hunt for them
thats passive hunting
active is when you are looking not stopping and looking intently
short work for war crimes joe
passive is when you sit back and relax and if you see something you like then you might look into it
i actively spawn them in and examine them
hmmmmmm
what should the scag team face next
there isn't a way to decide centipede size so i will spawn 2 random adult centipede
actualy i will spawn 5
there goes ribbons
here he comes
a shocking defeat
dang!
i dont think kelly's doin ok
what fight now
can i make more suggestions
yes
now put them against one (1) miros bird
joe
if that's too much, how about 3 cyan lizards?
joe
the miros bird was clearly not enough
my god.
joe killed it in a few seconds
battle
lick
jumoscare
stab
save ribbons with 1 rock
joe is out of spears
ribbons got a stab
scagler win
quite the close call
theres something strangely funny about this
what has joe done...
throsw bomb spear, spear boumces of wall and lands near ribbons, ribbons' grenades bounce around the room and kill kelly and kooblar
anyway what should they fight
hmmm... 2 caramel lizards at the topmost shelter and one green in the center at the bottom?
spawn them in tamed so they don't fight
yeah sure
hmm... should we try this round again with 3 spears scattered around the arena?
or 2 spears actually
ohh kooblar is gonna clutch this round??!!!
jooblar playing the really slow game
i mean really slow
dead
green is almost out
win
what is the next enemy of the scag
hmmm...
and yet after another hour of looking this is still the closest i have to pure black :/
7 yellow lizards
kelly killed one but
kelly is injured but still alive
sneak
what will happen here
kooblar
these two are a good team
dead
another kill
auwwww the sillies
kelly fell off the platform here
here comes kooblar
final moments
or he could miss
scaglers win
WOOHOO!!!
make them fight a miros vulture
whats this ID
nvm
I don't know if it's actually possible for a pure black pup, I know it's not in the 50k list (otherwise it would be under the top most body color that I accidentally made the filter header)
At some point I might try to brute force search the max lightness min saturation dark slugpup (lightness is inverted when the pup is labelled "dark" so I look for the maximum of that) and if it ends up being #000000, I'll let y'all know
the funny scaglers
Kelly, Kooblar, War Crimes Joe, and Ribbons
0 sympathy, maximum aggression, total maximum on most of the scav combat stats.
is there a way to modify the visible ID mod so that when the user enters a value the mod starts at one and if the hex value the user entered isnt equal to the value the seed made the mod will increase the seed by one and check again till and when the required hex is found it will return the seed in which the hex was found to the user i would make this myself but i dont know C#
Why modify a mod when you can make your own
I was actually planning to just make a mod whose sole purpose is ID searching
oh
After I finish my current one
cool
i dont know C# but i know other languages
unfortunately im also too dumb to figure out how to decompile and compile DLL files so that doesnt help
Basically my method is just make a loop that is triggered on a button press that looks through every ID and tries to find an id that minimizes or maximizes some calculated conditions after running the RNG and its associated math and print out the results at the end. The process takes anywhere from 15 minutes to 6 hours because it was lazily thrown together and I could optimize it better but oh well.
I have to change the code every time I look for something else, so a mod that I don’t have to do that would be nice
honestly i usually make things like that when i can
i usually like getting the hard part over as soon as possible so its not something i have to do over and over
i might look into how the msc mod works considering it doesnt use DLL files so i can actually read the content writen
ofc its most likely not as effective as learning how to use DLL files but i suppose oh well
only war crimes joe
kelly has high nervousness
ribbons is pretty aggressive but very energetic
and kooblar is super-friendly
exact opposite of joe
the squad
war crimes joe will murder you
pray he isn't re-incarnated as an elite
that man will mess you up
play the boss music
attempt 1
attempt 2
attempt 3
i escaped the sing bomb and he has no spears this might be it
i got a headshot
time to make him normal again
someone said to fight them against miros vulture
also ribbons and kelly somehow created rib kelly
what is rib kelly
is it his bones?
anyway fight
first hits
zero cowardice
aiming
destoyed the last bomb spear
kelly nearly died
will ribbons pull of the war crime joe tactic of 'beat it do death with rock'
he escaped?
and then fell back to the bird
it's either rapid victory from war crimes joe or slow demise from these cowards
no more
how did they ever fail
Who won
slugcat
cutscene slugcats mod
oh
hmmm
should i dink around in safari mode for 12 hours again
what is this goofy fella doing here
bonjour
that dont seem normal
not sure moon is ok
wghat
his access shaft 
the palette comes with, for some reason
i was trying to see if he'd go into the rot
how did bro get there
im gonna try yoinking fp

i did it as arti, because he doesn't kill you for being in there
very cool blue thing
i spawned like three scavs in his chamber and they stole all his pearls 
oh yeah inspectors are fun to mess around with
i piloted one to his chamber
uh
i grabbed the fucking inspector
er
overseer
now where is the pebblr
i want to throw a spear at him
gotta go to his chamber!
i entered a room
and a dll
just started grooving
i made it to fp's chamber

im gonna spawn a million scavs in it
pebbles is not having a good time
aw hell nah i killed five pebbles
wait a minute
i can kill pebbles

i committed murder 

nvm hes back
thats it
im going to summon the flood in his chamber
i summoned the flood of gourjmands
(dont ask why they have drip)
the gourmands killed him 
trapped for all of eternity
its PROBABLY fine
testing arenas
ohmygod yes
I found a green lantern mouse accidently during my saint run
beastmaster

can scavs not pathfind their way through the wall or underhang?
I guess another way of doing it would be the batfly spear glitch though you would have limited spear throws to do it
Also I think scavs spawn on the roof of pebbles in arti so you could do it that way if you managed to get one to follow you (or run in fear from you) into the pebbles gate
well that's still in a different region
you can't use gates in safari
and scavs Definitely don't spawn inside his superstructure
they don't spawn in the superstructure but you can bring them through the gate
oh in safari mode no you can't unless you use mod
or you're in silent construct and are good at scav parkour
actually idk if it's possible to bring a scav to fp in safari
not without spawning them in i'm pretty sure
there's no elites in saint's time, and regular scavs can't jump
so any verticality and you're stuck
can scavs climb wall spears?
I have a stupid idea
use a spider (probably a spitter) to incapacitate a lone scav and then carry them up using wall climbing
though the spider might fall off the walls or ceilings which will pose a problem
wait is incapacitation/restraining exclusive to slugcats?
that would be the limitation if so
it is not
i'm pretty sure anyways
you could always dart a mouse to test
i know pups aren't immune to it 
yeah that makes sense
i'm pretty sure it's not exclusive to scugs though
pretty sure i've seen spitters paralyze lizards
yeah but the part I'm worried about is when the spider grabs the lizard, does it auto kill or does it do the normal incapacitation or restraining or whatever it is?
i think it's a percent chance to kill
but i'm not sure. i know it is for dropwigs at least
i'm not sure how spitters work tbh
spitters dont have fangs so
They can grab creatures though
lizard stew
yum
on the levels stage you can spawn a giant swarm of green lizards
and they swarm about
and usually don't hurt anything suprisingly
scrumptious
vulture lump
SHINY SCAV KING
consume the green frog
i forgot i made my slugpups demons
WHAT DID U DO
nvm their a dingus again
anyways
kill
these 2 are just safe because this miros wont move
ah shit
Hunter eating saintpup lmfao
mm noodles
omg catcat real
hmm
how many spears would le dingus take
hes fine 
kill
what.
he pulled the spear out.
why does this pink liz look so cool
a delicious feast
bro u dont know what cool is
there ya go
definition of cool
i gave this sad dude some pearls and now he's freaking out
what do i do to him next??
give him a friend named brother long legs
he doesn't seem very happy
kelly child
put them in the same room so they get to know
they both are very nervous
eachother
ok
why is the child kelly so similar to the real kelly
do they like eachother
sad scav does NOT like him
they seem to not like eachother because BLL is staying in a corner, so is sad scav
what the
bll does not like sad scav
sad scav does not like bll
then why dont they fight already
because they're both staying in their corners
what should the scavs fight
5 cyan lizors
joe out here doing normal joe things
assisted by ribbons
war crimes joe about to make his third solo kill
these are the same guys that killed a miros bird in a few seconds so 5 cyans was easy
also these are the peronality/scav stats of each scav
can you spawn scav 23066
sad scav and his friend BLL
bugs and MR. LONG
what else should i do to sad scav
spawn an arti 
he's really scared of her
what next
spawn a mother long legs (bll got scared and told his mom)
what should be done next? (from now on, sad scav's BLL friend will be called billy)
mll REALLY wants to catch them
he looks like he is holding the impaled lantern
he really does
spawn exactly 15 slugpups
arena stuff what d
-_v
i just did something
pride scavs
6 scavs, colours of the pride flag, i couldn't find a green that wasn't mint
what should the pride scavs battle
they don't have war crimes joe on their side but they have numbers
10 armed artificers
A CHILD
IS THIS A DMS SKIN OR A TRUE BABY SCAGENGER
funny green scagler id
spitter spider scav
i know for a fact no one is ever gonna see spooder scav ever
why spearmaster look "oh god i gotta get away from this scag"
That Spearmaster went to The Leg
spooder scav has been torturing spearmaster and they desprately need to get away
cutscene scug is always terrified i think
the fear in their eyes
cutscene scugs look so cute tho :3
dms
i turned spooder scav into a meme #downpour-meme-gallery★ message
arti npc doesn't like anything that lives
they dont usually attack pups but this one felt particularly spiteful
give me this white eyed scav he so silly
that is because of a setting
i have an artipup on gourm and it doesn't kill things
but the scavs hate it
silicon is silly
silicon's white spit
silicon has max bravery so he isn't scared
kelly and child
why are the slugpups so
fuzzy
the black lizards are freaking out
the juvenile white lizard is hyperactive while the regular white is just trying to camouflage
bro i look away for 1 SECOND
It’s a combination of tundra slugcat, saint fur, and something beginning with a z
Zeths fluffy cats or smth
round loafs.
thabk
theyre a squimbly
i love that the yellows are just chillin
this is satifying to walk across

he is petrified
a rainbow cyan i found while spamming through cyans in the entity arena
and heres an overdramatic strawberry lizor i tamed in arena
if i didnt know better i'd say his is a green lizard
but uh
its not
im tryna find the perfect lizor fren
omfg
funny scav
red colored pink lizard
emerald tweaks
nah im just stating its em tweaks
this carmel is just goofy
chill ass kv
yet another silly scav
they fused

I made this with that image
miros vulture
cerberus
still would murder you tho...
yeah no def but its still funny
tbh i dont think agro and sym values affect vultures
or dlls come to think of it
darn
bro likes the rock
idk but this guy did
emeralds tweaks has rainbow creature variants btw
wait that isnt a green lizard?
nah its a red
greens have blockier heads
The pearl vendor
i dont trust that porl guy
i trust this guy tho
why he pink
i would trust this guy with my pups
they look very caring
they had a mental breakdown bc i gave them an electric spear
idk if pups are good for their mental health
they simply couldnt tolerate having that much responsibility
pups are much easier to care for
they even bounce when you punt them into walls
skrinkly little guy
hairy :>

PORL

princess and glar'ock, destroyer of worlds

as long as you don't touch the teeth you're fine :D
It's amusing to me that pups tend to perform a lot better against vultures than lizards, at least in my experience
I know the reasons why, but it's just funny
i took out a kv with 3 pups and it was pretty fun
trying to stop them from getting shot was a nice added challenge

one day...
GIVE ME RED ID
u should name the zonkerdoodle dart, stripes or duo
war crimes joe has 1 aggression and 0 sympathy
he has commited every single war crime
i found a slugpup like him
the slugpup is jumping while the scav shakes in the corner in fear
ID for slugpup is 5690
after like 10 minutes of scav panic they finally killed all 4 (or 5 i forgot) cyan lizards
elites were sniped by friends wif explosive spears
shots were missed
a panic pile formed
and finally
That guy looks like the least sympathetic scav possible #1130474435405680680 message
What this place for
it's skrankler's attic but also other creatures
ya'know all creatures with the same ID share the same trait values just not looks (although there are exceptions)
good to know 
i have a pup that has the exact hex value as monk for color
actual monk and slugpup colors
cool!
I feel like yellow is the least common color I see in slugpups instead of pink/purple
side by side comparison
i have a pup for every color
red orange yellow green blue purple brown grey black white
rainbow scups
yus
I did find a gold slugpup in arena earlier I think i have the ID
picture?
pretty pup
yes
gourmand pup on fat survivor


I naturally found a bright pink slugpup
he eepy
very eepy
emerald tweaks strawbo?
anyway war crimes joe
the man
THE man himself
even without his scag friends what should Joe fight
there's also joe's ID put on an elite scag
3 cyan lizards.
yeah i use emeralds tweaks all the time i dont wanna get rid of it bc i fuckin LOVE the variety of colors it adds to lizors




