@south mural @tall kindle YO! I DID IT!
#Server Challenge Submissions
tranquil stream
tacit forge
tall kindle
tranquil stream
one cycled permacancer
coral nimbus
one cycled permacancer
but you are not allowed to guardian skip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tranquil stream
🤡
south mural
craggy plank
question: if i died after activating the last gate in navigator does that count as completing the challenge
like, the gate was flooding when i entered, but it did activate before i drowned
tacit forge
i dont know if hibernation is needed
but im pretty sure you need the gate to be fully opened
craggy plank
oh great. the recording stopped because i ran out of space. without notifying me. it cuts out in outskirts 
well, i guess im doing it again anyway
tacit forge
astral horizon
for outlaw/ranger, should I focus on getting echoes asap or no?
cus I got the SI and FA echoes
im going FA > SI > CC to cheese, is this good or is there a better route?
tranquil stream
im going FA > SI > CC to cheese, is this good or is there a better route?
I did exactly that and it was good
astral horizon
yes
coral nimbus
wow actually gl
tranquil stream
I don't think you focus hard on echoes because they are hard to miss
astral horizon
wow actually gl
why wouldnt I, its just two flavors of genocide
coral nimbus
you just need to plan out your harder kills (miros bird, both rot variants, idk the rest)7
astral horizon
and I fucking hate playing this stupid cancer patient so violently
so why not just do two murder runs at once
craggy plank
navigator is so much worse than journey. journey doesn't have leeches and snails and long horizontal rooms with vulture spawns.
coral nimbus
navigator is so much worse than journey. journey doesn't have leeches and snails...
navigator doesn't either if you are a gamer 
coral nimbus
One moment
Take our expertly crafted thumbnail
distant kestrel
Yes, will do
Don't worry, you two will receive credit as well as bountiful praise
Your efforts will not go unspoken
craggy plank
please tell me this counts 
coral nimbus
Thank you very much Timberton the III.
distant kestrel
please tell me this counts <:slugscrem:704455193080627303>
Would you consider this passing
TBH I dunno
sweet oracle
navigator is so much worse than journey. journey doesn't have leeches and snails...
genuine skill issue
verbal mural
oh shit i have no idea
tranquil stream
please tell me this counts <:slugscrem:704455193080627303>
you didn't cross the gate
tranquil stream
it doesn't say anything about resting but
I know you don't need to rest
but this... uh... I dunno
verbal mural
i was gonna say "but idk about deaths"
but the crossing the gate is probably the nail in the coffin
you can get away with just double spawns
i'd recommend starting with SI and cheesing a kv mask
and then whenever you need to leave shaded, you bring it with you, and once you enter you leave it at a shelter
south mural
i'd recommend starting with SI and cheesing a kv mask
Why is it needed? I mean you don't really encounter many lizards if you echo out of the Exterior by an CC shelter
CC>HI>SH is pretty doable without one I think
craggy plank
you didn't cross the gate <:slugscrem:704455193080627303>
I'll keep trying
verbal mural
it was just a nice thing to have when i went for echo strats
speaking of which i had to fulfill saint/monk by burning 2 cycles, and then using only 4 echoes to complete the rest of the progress
then i used the last 2 (SI and SH) for dragon slayer
sweet oracle
i'm on data rn so can't watch but i'm guessing it involves exterior
sweet oracle
oh no
distant kestrel
I don't think anything to do with exterior is doable
verbal mural
the greatest navigator route
distant kestrel
too big
south mural
me omw to go through the entirety of five pebbles for navigator
LF>SU>HI>SH>UW>SS>UW>CC>HI>SL
Imagine
brave fjord
free peanut delivery to whoever catches it (scholar)
quiet pilot
…..you have been spared Wal
tacit forge
coral nimbus
…..you have been spared Wal
tacit forge
True
craggy plank
how do you check your global lizard rep? is there a mod?
coral nimbus
how do you check your global lizard rep? is there a mod?
Most people check with devtools
or simply snuggle the lizards and see if they kill you or not
craggy plank
i see, thank you 
going to start a new game and grind lizard rep for chill collector shenanigans
goodbye, 200+ cycles of survivor..
south mural
how do you check your global lizard rep? is there a mod?
you can go check the UserData if you want, or enable devtools, click M and restart after watching the cycle
steel compass
going to start a new game and grind lizard rep for chill collector shenanigans
simply give lizard food, take food out of lizard's mouth, repeat 5 times, then do it again next cycle and boom, 100 region rep
craggy plank
yeah, i know how grinding works. just too lazy to go hug every lizard in multiple regions to see if i have enough.
plus with some of the lizards being hardcoded to be aggressive i just want to make sure
steel compass
survivor red liazrd tamed
oh right i was meant to be lineaging a cyan
anyway yeah 0 progress on that cyan linage
steel rampart
Scholar challange without using any passages B3
steel compass
nice!
steel rampart
Ty :D
coral nimbus
steel compass
hm i think one of the lineage green lizards moved up here
because there's always 3 fighting
tacit forge
Scholar challange without using any passages B3
another peanut for me
eating good tonight
silk knot
salamander tamed. Ima name him Sparky
silk knot
black tamed as well, this one goes by Block
lol, managed to tame another one in the process, this is a nice family picnic
distant kestrel
what's for lunch
silk knot
shame, I think you should get two pips for sleeping with two lizards
silk knot
what's for lunch
they ordered some bioluminescent mouse steak, I am a vegeterian, so Ima just have a nice Slimy salad
crimson eagle
Anybody know a good location to do the tasty challenge
silk knot
Navigator:
https://youtu.be/ejDenzsZ12Q
verbal mural
your two friends fighting over you at the start 
silk knot
I tried asking locals for the best route, they kinda started fighting, so I just left
dense geode
your two friends fighting over you at the start <:monklaugh:971011079809400842>
you got this one shining?
quasi cairn
Navigator Challenge:
https://youtu.be/xw5aEqqVnI4
Looks like tonight is the night for touring industrial
dense geode
Navigator Challenge:
https://youtu.be/xw5aEqqVnI4
did you submit it through the submission form yet?
cunning glacier
Not the bad route so disappointed
dense geode
i dont see you on the spreadsheet 
dawn dragon
Navigator aligator
quasi cairn
Shoot, I need to do that don't I
quasi cairn
did you submit it through the submission form yet?
Yes
sudden swan
brave fjord
so uh question
does being bitten (by a lizard) technically count as death?
not by slugcat means
brave fjord
well, youre technically still alive, even in the lizards mouth unless the bite is lethal
verbal mural
do you mean the death counter for final scores?
i think that only increments when you hit restart
crimson eagle
no not that
You mean if getting bit during a run but escaping counts as a loss right?
brave fjord
Let me clarify
If OTHER creatures get bit by a lizard does that technically count as death to them?
little tree
Only if the bite is lethal
astral horizon
Let me clarify
If OTHER creatures get bit by a lizard does that technically coun...
i think other creatures follow the same rules as if you get bitten
little tree
I think lethal bites do ~1 damage, so some things instantly die
astral horizon
the lizard bites > RNG roll to see if it dies
little tree
While other things like centipedes just take damage
verbal mural
nah i'm pretty sure it does damage, instead of rolling a chance
red lizard fights don't end instantly
little tree
Well if a bite that's lethal does one damage right, red lizards have about 9 hp, it ends after about 9 bites
In theory
Lots of their bites miss though
brave fjord
is there damage counters, then?
little tree
Also have to take in consideration head armour
verbal mural
different body parts have different damage modifiers
if most of the bites are to the head, the damage gets reduced significantly and drags the fight on
little tree
Yeh
verbal mural
yeah getting bit in the head does 0.04 damage LOL
(assuming bites do 1 damage, that is )
astral horizon
okay so Im using score galore to help me keep track of my kills for ranger, is this allowed?
little tree
Throat 150
astral horizon
i have the "live kills" turned off
little tree
No wonder cyans instakill blues
Is there a mod that just makes everything agressive to everything?
little tree
okay so Im using score galore to help me keep track of my kills for ranger, is t...
I heard it's only allowed in intermissions (when you aren't playing the game)
So only in main menu
Or selection screen
astral horizon
I heard it's only allowed in intermissions (when you aren't playing the game)
this is true
There's a button that says statistics next to your game and it shows you all the stuffs
current max karma, all your kills to that point, deaths/quits/time/points etc
but its only at the main menu, nothing in game
verbal mural
it's allowed with live tracker off
astral horizon
is this alright to use?
little tree
So yeah just turn it off when you're in game
astral horizon
it's allowed with live tracker off
Okay cool i have that off
this is so much fucking better than using a google sheet
little tree
You've been doing a lot of challenges recently
astral horizon
You've been doing a lot of challenges recently
me?? lol
little tree
I think so
astral horizon
no ive just hyper tunnel visioned on completing outlaw
ive only actually done scholar
little tree
Ah I'm just tripping then 
astral horizon
maybe i should give outlaw a rest and do other challenges LMAO
little tree
Nah keep trying outlaw
astral horizon
little tree
You've made this much progress already
astral horizon
you are so real
little tree
brave fjord
i have no idea whether to consider this run one that can be verified
little tree
What's the challenge?
brave fjord
safari
the spitter spider got bit by the red liz but after looking at the hp values and since a "lethal" bite is considered 1 hp, i dont think i should consider the spitter dead
little tree
Spitters have about 1.25 HP iirc, and they regen
If it's alive it should count?
If it's alive
brave fjord
it shouldve been alive
astral horizon
okay so
if i starve to dupe spawn and also visit an echo in that same cycle, does it save the dupe spawn or no?
distant kestrel
It does not
you need to save over your starve double, since starving does not save the game
same thing happens if you die, the double is undone
astral horizon
ahhh
okay i knew it needed a save but i didn't know if visiting an echo counted as "saving" or something weird
distant kestrel
Nah, it sends you back to your last save instead of making a new one
But the karma level increase is tracked differently, it's weird
same thing goes for the increase from pebbles
dawn dragon
can you dupe karma increase from pebbs or does the game remeber it
distant kestrel
It remembers
You won't get it again, but you will get your karma topped off if you didn't save over the cap increase
he'll act like you never met
dawn dragon
oh ic
little tree
@quiet pilot I messaged the creator of Visible ID about our issue, they fixed it for me so in theory yours should also be fixed now too!
astral horizon
can i tame a lizard if i have a vulture mask on?
distant kestrel
It won't grab food if it is under the fear effect
but if it runs out you can feed it just fine
astral horizon
okay so fun fact i forgor 💀 that you cant actually even pick up most creatures with 1 hand anyways so i wont even be able to hold the mask
balmy falcon
two hand glitch?
astral horizon
the fuck is that
balmy falcon
haven't done guardian have ya 
balmy falcon
it's about what it's called, it's a glitch that lets you hold a two hand object at the same time as a one hand object
astral horizon
does this have any applicable use outside of guardian
i know about it but i had no idea you needed a glitch tbh
balmy falcon
i'm... not too clear on how to do it myself, but from what i can tell of the videos i've watched it's literally just swapping hands until you pick up the two hand object with one hand. or something
astral horizon
**i know abt guardian i mean
balmy falcon
does this have any applicable use outside of guardian
some people have used it for the deer pearl for scholar, but otherwise idk
astral horizon
i see
distant kestrel
does this have any applicable use outside of guardian
Yes it's super handy for keeping your mask
I tend to combo squid/jetfish with the mask
To get a two hand off you wanna time your second grab press (the one which swaps your hands) so that it grabs what you want to two hand
astral horizon
To get a two hand off you wanna time your second grab press (the one which swaps...
ohh okay. so while holding 1 hand, double tap to switch, and on the 2nd press, youll grab two handed thing?
probably have to be walking towards it while youre pressing
distant kestrel
Yes
verbal mural
make sure once you do that and pick back up the 1 hand, you hand swap one more time or the physics might be weird
brave fjord
1am peanut (safari)
0:56 is the time
https://youtu.be/aMcrZrHU6HI
brave fjord
it had a scav
verbal mural
ohhh im blind lol
devout carbon
squid challenge????? https://youtu.be/-hGUGIfaKfc
i hope unlisted is the right way i forgot if its private or unlisted
i swear i exported this video in 720 i dont know why it looks so shitty 
oh wait theres a thing i have to fill out or something right
devout carbon
ty :D im so excited for cool red role uhuhuu
verbal mural
elder
https://youtu.be/POAImypNJos
sorry, but this has to be redone, 2/4 of them are holding 2 masks, there needs to be 6 scavs holding 1 each 
short rover
ty :D im so excited for cool red role uhuhuu
Yes, slugcat has mastered how to fly
Is it your first challenge?
devout carbon
yeah :))
short rover
Oh nice
Congrats on beating your first challenge
If you want to do more later, remember you may always ask for help here
devout carbon
i wanted to do like a montage of all my attempts because i actually had no idea how to infinite fly when i started but uhhh tldr too much work and i have to work tomorrow and its almost 2 am
coolcool
short rover
Yeah, go sleep lol
devout carbon
for the proof do i need to get the yt link or am i able to say its in discord
short rover
for the proof do i need to get the yt link or am i able to say its in discord
Link to your video posted here
Like this
devout carbon
ohh ok
short rover
Just copy the message link and paste it in
verbal mural
watching it rn so you should get some pretty quick feedback by the time it gets on the sheet lol
devout carbon
oh it says that on the thing to use message link haha.......................
short rover
watching it rn so you should get some pretty quick feedback by the time it gets ...
Can't let the peanut opportunity disappear, no?
short rover
test https://discordapp.com/channels/291184728944410624/1089326594541224006/1111...
Has to be discord.com
Not discordapp.com
It is weird like that
devout carbon
oh so i gotta go to the website
short rover
Yeah
👍 now im going to bed i guess i will see my fate in the morning
verbal mural
it has been verified 
verbal mural
Can't let the peanut opportunity disappear, no?
indeed 
🥜
devout carbon
hell yeah (hell yeah)
verbal mural
((hell yeah))
short rover
It will take a little longer for your role to be added
Because only staff can do that
balmy falcon
oh so i gotta go to the website
you can just delete the 'app' part of the link whatever works really
craggy plank
*looks at other people's navigator submissions* wait should I have not gone to gw first 
tranquil stream
\*looks at other people's navigator submissions\* wait should I have not gone to...
You started navi with GW?
austere schooner
cc > gw i assume
tranquil stream
Btw Timby finally uploaded his example navi route so feel free to check out 
craggy plank
cc > gw i assume
yes, that
craggy plank
i got it
i even entered the gate before rain started and successfully hibernated. yay me.
question though, i had to pause a game for around a minute in the middle of a run, can i cut that out or should i leave it for it to not be sketchy?
tranquil stream
Why cut? Could you just leave it in?
craggy plank
yeah, I can, just asking if I should
tranquil stream
Leave it
We'll just skip over this part
So no big deal if you have a pause here
tranquil stream
astral horizon
is it bad that i thought deer were bowing to each other as some sort of respect thing 😭
also i hope this counts as lizard tamed?
craggy plank
is it bad that i thought deer were bowing to each other as some sort of respect ...
i mean, they kind of do? they bow to let the other pass, but who will be bowing and who will be passing first is decided by who has higher dominance.
steel compass
is it bad that i thought deer were bowing to each other as some sort of respect ...
Are they not bowing out of respect?
astral horizon
Are they not bowing out of respect?
wiki says they're bowing their heads to let the other pass, cus of their antlers
steel compass
Yeah the one with longer antlers gets to pass
astral horizon
im sure there's some respect/age generation family difference
craggy plank
higher dominance deer have bigger antlers
astral horizon
but its a functional thing not a cultural thing
steel compass
It's still a respect thing
astral horizon
according to the wiki anyways
craggy plank
no offense to the guys but i think they might be tad too dumb to have complicated rituals
astral horizon
i never noticed they did it when passing each other
astral horizon
no offense to the guys but i think they might be tad too dumb to have complicate...
all offense i fucking hate them
astral horizon
i love them and they're super cute and adorable until i need them to take me somewhere then i hate them so hard i hope they die
astral horizon
hunter swallows 250kg of uranium from 5P so he's too heavy for the wormgrass to consume:
astral horizon
If only they weren't required for FA
this tbh if they weren't mandatory and you only needed them to like, get the cearl or something they would be so cool
are challenge submissions in expedition valid?
steel compass
99% sure no
astral horizon
first time playing. if i get leukocycte here is it valid or does it have to be story mode only? all the mod rules apply and im not using more slugcats
south mural
first time playing. if i get leukocycte here is it valid or does it have to be s...
If expedition mode is allowed, then yes, but I don't think it is, even if not on the "not allowed" list.
astral horizon
gotcha. well i doubt itll be that hard to pull off and worst case if it isn't allowed ill have wasted a few minutes
south mural
I mean it has perks which change gameplay so they should not be allowed
astral horizon
true but this is my very first time playing so i don't have anything like that
ill give it a go and do my best to show its vanilla etc and if its turned down then oh well
south mural
true but this is my very first time playing so i don't have anything like that
Mods are allowed/not allowed based on their potential, not what they are currently used for.
I know someone tried to use JollyCoop just to change his skin to a pup, and, despite not having any gameplay difference at all it was not allowed.
astral horizon
he cant fit his fat ass into the pipes leading to the shelter anyways 
oh well
guess ill just get leukocyte the normal way lmfao
tranquil stream
first time playing. if i get leukocycte here is it valid or does it have to be s...
Uhhhh. I think submissions done in expidition mode is a hard no-no 
astral horizon
quiet pilot
<@692041038436630569> I messaged the creator of Visible ID about our issue, they...
Oh awesome!! I’ll have to check it out ^-^ thanks for messaging them!
little tree
Hopefully yours works
craggy plank
alternative title: fuck the snails
there are some audio hiccups in the video, im sorry about that, it's due to my headphones getting unplugged by accident and me plugging them back in 
craggy plank
this is slander and defamation, i will see you in court
quiet pilot
There’s no need to go to court it’s already been verified by me 
craggy plank
thank you!
tranquil stream
There’s no need to go to court it’s already been verified by me <:slugevil:69502...
coral nimbus
astral horizon
are there any passages i can ignore/should avoid? like any traps/"hard" to do etc or should I just go for everything? for outlaw
i know they're multiplier bonuses but are any just "not worth doing" for whatever reason?
tranquil stream
6 passages
coral nimbus
are there any passages i can ignore/should avoid? like any traps/"hard" to do et...
Unless you want to do a harder Devotee, forget Saint and Monk exist
tranquil stream
Are good to do
Survivor, hunter, outlaw, scholar, chieftain, dragon slayer
Ignore the others
astral horizon
very cool thank you
if i CAN get them done, cool, but if I cant then Ill just ignore them
craggy plank
wanderer is actually easy as well if you have passages before survivor on, which I'm pretty sure is not banned
little tree
Passages are needed for scorerunning
tranquil stream
wanderer is actually easy as well if you have passages before survivor on, which...
It is allowed
craggy plank
tranquil stream
I recommend turning it on
astral horizon
Passages are needed for scorerunning
Right but im not too worried about high scores atm, only getting outlaw. 10k for the "10k club" would be cool but beyond that im not concerned with. At least yet lmao
little tree
Yeah but still
astral horizon
I recommend turning it on
i checked before hand to make sure it was allowed lol, and I do have it on
you guys are so helpful I appreciate you all
little tree
I had 7 passages on my outlaw run and only got 8k
astral horizon
now there's 2 lizards coming out of that shelter????
portal moment
little tree
Albeit it was a rough run but 7 passages is a lot
astral horizon
I had 7 passages on my outlaw run and only got 8k
ill just have to genocide harder than you did
little tree
Yeah I didn't kill much
craggy plank
i had 6 passages and managed to get 10k with honestly not even impressive amount of killings
steel compass
having 6 passages does that
coral nimbus
Pilgrim i think could also be fit into an outlaw run
little tree
Pilgrim is msc
steel compass
devotee but i'm also doing outlaw
little tree
Guardian but I'm also doing mother
little tree
i thought it wasn't?
Actually now rethinking it might not be
craggy plank
it is msc
quiet pilot
Um it wouldn’t be valid because of unrandomised cycle durations 
little tree
Thank you for the backup
quiet pilot
(It is MSC, yes)
craggy plank
I also thought it was part of base game, but nope
tranquil stream
aha
the wiki is shite at seperating msc and non-msc passages
Feel free to contribute
coral nimbus
Feel free to contribute <:monknerd:1027726919640285225>
im not a nerd
quiet pilot
im not a nerd <:monknerd:1027726919640285225>
Yet you’re here bro
craggy plank
aha
the wiki is shite at seperating msc and non-msc passages
I think separation literally doesn't exist on mobile or something
oh, wait, no, it exists
you just have to have scholar tab open to see it
astral horizon
i can use vulture cheese to get the masks for elder right?
I dunno
steel compass
doesn't say anything against it in the rules
tranquil stream
You can I suppose
tranquil stream
You'll have to trasport them tho
astral horizon
i got all 6 masks but before i could screenshot the vultures one of the demasked ones got blasted off the edge by one vulture spazzing out
do i need to get a new SC with a demasked vulture or will it be fine 
steel compass
it's vulture cheese you can easily just get another one right
astral horizon
i alr hit the echo 😔 but i can just get another one yeah
devout carbon
you can just delete the 'app' part of the link <:hunterkek:832653219880501319> w...
ooh cool ty
steel compass
current lineagfe situation: there's 2 greens coming out of the left shelter and one coming out of the right onel
middle one is norma
i am very tempted to just make a new save and try on there because i am making no progress here
coral nimbus
current lineagfe situation: there's 2 greens coming out of the left shelter and ...
Somehow, when i lineaged in that exact area, the green lizes double spawned
steel compass
this is incredibly complicated and i htink i'll just start another file
there are 4 green lizards here uhg
tranquil stream
little tree
Bro was just checking in on you and you stabbed him 
tranquil stream
Imitating neutral scav behavior
steel compass
i am very tempted to just make a new save and try on there because i am making n...
that worked
didn't even see the pink somehow
celest ruin
i gotta submit my thing for Tasty but endufgbr
steel compass
that worked
(i starve rolled it and then it killed me and now it hasn't respawned in like 10 rolls guhugh)
craggy plank
steel compass
that scav is not having a good time
short rover
How do I deal with small spiders when I'm monk and have no light?
There is a room I have to go through, and I keep dying there
south mural
How do I deal with small spiders when I'm monk and have no light?
Flashbangs or holding a lantern and breaking the chains with spears while running.
short rover
Yeah, someone told me about rocks and spear
I know about lantern and flashbang, I just can't access them before the spiders
south mural
I know about lantern and flashbang, I just can't access them before the spiders
Just run as fast as you can, or go grab the light first.
steel compass
Oh
short rover
It's a speedrun so gotta go fast
steel compass
You can just get past quickly
short rover
The like staying around this spot
And I am so light they kill me almost instantly, but rocks and spears will hopefully help
coral nimbus
The like staying around this spot
If they like staying around that spot, maybe you could throw your rocks and spears here? (expert drawing to showcase my point)
tranquil stream
How do I deal with small spiders when I'm monk and have no light?
monk huh 
just run this
it is consistent until it isn't
short rover
I mean I look and act like monk
tranquil stream
befriend some spiders then
tranquil stream
just run this
not a real joke btw
just be fast and don't miss a jump
if it gets hot throw shit
usually works
short rover
just be fast and don't miss a jump
Well, dunno about that one
That's what I've been doing, but the spiders grab me
LOL
steel compass
?????????????
HOW DID I LINEAGE A YELLOW???????
I've only been killing the one that comes out of this den
this game hates me
steel compass
don't kill it or else <:lizred:695022450961940560>
steel compass
this is the one to the left
why did the one to the left move into this shelter this is so annoying
wait oh no
I'm going to accidentally lineage a red aren't i
tranquil stream
and of course this will be the only lineage you do with the first try
steel compass
on my lineage grind on my last save file i got every single one of these ones (except maybe the green) first try
like why game
austere schooner
i had an expedition where i lineaged a 10% centiwing into a red centipede in one cycle
right outside my shelter
celest ruin
tasty evidence bweahhhhh
dense geode
Survivor, hunter, outlaw, scholar, chieftain, dragon slayer
Wanderer is also good imo. (Yes I know I’m mega late shush)
dense geode
never invested into it
i mean, just nab an orange in sky islands, sleep there on cycle 0 (after getting a mask too). then go on with point cheesing. nab shoreline shelter outside garbage gate, get back to industrial killing everything along oyur path. nab shaded near the end of a cycle
tranquil stream
hmmmmmm
fair cape
coming back to challenges after a while and need to make sure, is it just the more slugcats expansion that you need to disable or do you need to uninstall the DLC to make a challenge valid?
celest ruin
i think its just disabling most new content
im not 100% sure though
tranquil stream
coming back to challenges after a while and need to make sure, is it just the mo...
just disable it
also make sure you don't have any unpermitted remix settings turned on
fair cape
Ight
short rover
I wish you good luck
Oh btw, press jump as gravity switches
It gives you insane vertical momentum
quasi cairn
Leukocyte Challenge
short rover
Well done!
short rover
so worth it
Jelly fish are op
craggy plank
true
I never personally used them but I have seen them in action and it's quite something alright 
short rover
Wish they were in more regions
craggy plank
would be also cool if you could store them in your stomach.
steel compass
but DLLs
azure current
short rover
Congrats!
azure current
finally did this fuckin thing
now i gotta finish journey
and many other challenges cuz i want at least the champions role
short rover
OOoooh nice
Wish you good luck!
Remember you may always ask here if you need help with one
graceful blaze
attention. @astral horizon 's cat dispenses peanuts
astral horizon
NOOOO[OOOO
graceful blaze
graceful blaze
chanting
Peanuts. peanuts. peanuts
astral horizon
oh yeah phin ive been going for outlaw
it had caused me a great deal of agony!!!!
graceful blaze
oh yeah phin ive been going for outlaw
I saw while I was sad good luck
its fun
I love outlaw 
graceful blaze
oh u was lurking ahehe
what else was I suppose to do? 
astral horizon
what else was I suppose to do? <:Sad:980833394374086736>
valid
currently im in CC already have the echo
graceful blaze
i am very bad at the game it has taken so many attempts
why most of my attempts died
astral horizon
just finished vulture cheesing and i set up to do elder later on
is there any reason to go for the other echoes after I get max karma?
graceful blaze
just finished vulture cheesing and i set up to do elder later on
you mean the challange elder? You do know for outlaw you have to finish the run completly. means you cannot return
graceful blaze
is there any reason to go for the other echoes after I get max karma?
for wanderer
astral horizon
<:monkconfused:971749555924250694> you mean the challange elder? You do know fo...
yeah ofc
Im gonna grab the masks take them down to uhhhhh wherever the nearest scav toll is
what's the closest toll to the CC SI gate
graceful blaze
......
astral horizon
please dont say outskirts
graceful blaze
its gw...
astral horizon
graceful blaze
don't do elder inside outlaw
trust me
you might throw your run away by doing it
astral horizon
can i just make a backup?
short rover
Yeah
astral horizon
Okay
graceful blaze
ig so
astral horizon
cool ill just do that then
graceful blaze
but outlaw is better as survivor
short rover
Don't think you are allowed to save scum for outlaw, though
Aka backing up the save in case you die
astral horizon
Im not obv, i would not be struggling this hard lmfao
graceful blaze
and I don't think you're allowed to use vulture cheese for elder
astral horizon
and I don't think you're allowed to use vulture cheese for elder
I was told its fine
short rover
and I don't think you're allowed to use vulture cheese for elder
Doesn't say anything about it
i am sure it is fine
astral horizon
I did fuck it up
short rover
Just remember to screenshot getting each mask
astral horizon
I got 6 masks but one of the vultures was spazzing tf out and knocked another one off before i could screen cap
graceful blaze
Doesn't say anything about it
hm. idunno
astral horizon
so i need to get another mask
graceful blaze
I'm not a helper 
short rover
Also for elder, 6 different scavs have to hold 1 mask each
graceful blaze
and lyn is ignoring me for days now so..
astral horizon
oughf
graceful blaze
yeah if a scavs holds 2 masks it doesn't count
astral horizon
i didnt know that thanks for the headsup lmao
graceful blaze
chieftain and elder are the only 2 challanges I refuse to do cause I hate scavs
astral horizon
chieftain and elder are the only 2 challanges I refuse to do cause I hate scavs
based honestly
verbal mural
i will ask about vul cheesing for elder rn
short rover
Yeah, good idea
astral horizon
i will ask about vul cheesing for elder rn
okay thanks actually good idea
graceful blaze
yeah thx
astral horizon
if it doesnt count its fine, no big deal. but i would like a definitive answer before trying lmao
short rover
If it is not okay, then it should be mentioned in the challenge description thingy
verbal mural
true
verbal mural
yeah
short rover
true
Also is save scumming allowed for outlaw? I mean karma caching is not
Aka backing up save files and stuff like that
graceful blaze
I think backing up for outlaw is not.. since its basicly cheating
astral horizon
true tbh
i wouldnt wanna save scum anyways
at least not in a legit run
practice run sure but not a legit run
verbal mural
nah that would definitely be banned lol
short rover
Good good
graceful blaze
yeah and vulture cheesing would be like a instant win for elder so I'd be surprised if its allowed
like it would go from a easy challange to.. basicly not a challange at all
short rover
yeah and vulture cheesing would be like a instant win for elder so I'd be surpri...
To be fair, vultures are easy to kill at the certain spots
astral horizon
^
short rover
You do have to bring the masks from quite the distance
graceful blaze
killing vultures is already easy tho 
astral horizon
gonna go for mother next
short rover
killing vultures is already easy tho <:slugimjust:981537784143675412>
They fly away unless you lure them somewhere they can not
astral horizon
after outlaw
astral horizon
mother sounds fun
graceful blaze
fuck mother
graceful blaze
I fucking hate mother so damn much
short rover
mother sounds fun
A true mother enjoyer
austere schooner
east in farm past the SI gate
astral horizon
theres 2 near both sides of the FA SI gate and two by the SI CC gate
graceful blaze
wheres the 7th egg tho
coral nimbus
tekkit you should join orange gang
short rover
wheres the 7th egg tho
graceful blaze
right here
graceful blaze
tekkit you should join orange gang
YES
austere schooner
astral horizon
oh fuck
graceful blaze
do ascended tekkit
astral horizon
orang is kinda baller
coral nimbus
wait i just realized what i shortened their name to
god that brought me back 9 years
short rover
orang is kinda baller
Ascension is fun
astral horizon
yeah i might keep that as my main cor
short rover
Beat the game in 39 minutes
short rover
Yes
graceful blaze
I'll go again I don't feel welcomed here rn
astral horizon
is that beat the game as survivor?
short rover
I'll go again I don't feel welcomed here rn <:rivowo:951914063808565309>
You are always welcome here
coral nimbus
coral nimbus
I'll go again I don't feel welcomed here rn <:rivowo:951914063808565309>
Nyph join orange gang
astral horizon
okay so basically just pebbles speedrun
short rover
Nyph join orange gang <:rivowo:951914063808565309>
They are a bit tired of rng, though, because of mother
astral horizon
why is mother rng?
short rover
Navigator and chieftain are low rng challenges
astral horizon
it sounds pretty straightforward
short rover
Basically none
coral nimbus
why is mother rng?
creatures constantly in your way
graceful blaze
Nyph join orange gang <:rivowo:951914063808565309>
maybe
astral horizon
oh fuck true
short rover
Yeah and no vulture mask lol
craggy plank
"navigator is low rng" i would like to disagree
short rover
maybe
Have you done navigator or chieftain? They are low rng challenges if you are interested
graceful blaze
Have you done navigator or chieftain? They are low rng challenges if you are int...
no
short rover
"navigator is low rng" i would like to disagree <:saintstare:951914063200391258>
How so?
craggy plank
i lost so many runs because of snail placements
graceful blaze
why is mother rng?
this is why.
short rover
i lost so many runs because of snail placements
Really?
coral nimbus
okay so basically just pebbles speedrun
pretty much
get to karma 4, get from outskirts to pebs in one cycle, warp back to outskirts after he gives you karma x, one cycle to depths and to the final transition before time is up
short rover
I did navi first try personally, maybe my route was decent or something
craggy plank
snail snipes me offscreen, snail camps at the pipe, snail makes me drop bubble weed and drown, snail stun locks me making me lose so much time i just have to restart
graceful blaze
@astral horizon if you'd like I can attempt mother 1 more time and you can watch just to see what I mean by rng based.. heavy rng based
like I don't have to use ANY skill to beat it
just hope
hope vultures don't spawn or 2 noodlefly kill me
astral horizon
<@416306449237409803> if you'd like I can attempt mother 1 more time and you ca...
pfff that would be fun
graceful blaze
mother is the reason I refuse to play rw rn
astral horizon
leaen from the master
short rover
snail snipes me offscreen, snail camps at the pipe, snail makes me drop bubble w...
This was my route
graceful blaze
pfff that would be fun
private or vc? cause I will not talk prolly
short rover
No snails
astral horizon
private or vc? cause I will not talk prolly
either or. cant do it for a bit tho cus im still at work
crimge !
graceful blaze
I mean I could talk but eh
craggy plank
journey is true low rng, no snails at all, the only possible problems are vultures (which are easy to avoid since you're falling down through most of the rooms with them) and lizards/scavs body blocking pipes.
graceful blaze
either or. cant do it for a bit tho cus im still at work
wtf its 2 am what u doin there
short rover
Only don't get lost in filtration lol
short rover
wtf its 2 am what u doin there
Time zones?
coral nimbus
mother is the reason I refuse to play rw rn
ascension is much funner
instead of losing 10 min attempts to rng, you will lose 30 minute runs to black lizard specifically blocking the pipe you need to go into and refusing to move
astral horizon
wtf its 2 am what u doin there
it is 8pm smh my head
craggy plank
This was my route
oh, i didn't think to go that way. that actually seems like a very efficient (and mostly snail free) route 
short rover
ascension is much funner
instead of losing 10 min attempts to rng, you will lose...
MOOD
short rover
oh, i didn't think to go that way. that actually seems like a very efficient (an...
Yeah
You just need bubble weed
And you can replace your old one on the way
Very easy
astral horizon
whats journey again
short rover
whats journey again
The shelter at the top of FP
To depths in a single cycle
You can use vulture masks for it
So basically no rng
Other than filtration
graceful blaze
ascension is much funner
instead of losing 10 min attempts to rng, you will lose...
........
graceful blaze
it is 8pm smh my head
no its 2am. ur watch is broken
journey is amazingly fun
I can recommend journey its pure skill
astral horizon
no its 2am. ur watch is broken
oh shit u right wtf why am i still here
verbal mural
i guess you do have to spend a lot of time transporting though lol
short rover
the challange just turned into a non-challange lmao
You have to carry masks from CC
Which is boring
craggy plank
yup
craggy plank
it's better to collect masks near where you're going to store them
short rover
If you want misery, do devotee
graceful blaze
come join the misery
I am already in that server thank you very much :v
short rover
i hate that shit so much
craggy plank
unless you want to turn the challenge into enlightenment 2: electric boogaloo
graceful blaze
short rover
unless you want to turn the challenge into enlightenment 2: electric boogaloo
Enlightenment sounds like a chill challenge
But it takes a while
graceful blaze
I'm gonna do the hardest challange in the world now
craggy plank
yeah it's kind of chill,
coral nimbus
graceful blaze
byebye wish me luck making pizza
craggy plank
can get frustrating going the same route over and over again
short rover
Pizza tasty
graceful blaze
Yummy, what food?
pizza but self made
astral horizon
okay guys gals and enby pals whats the worst challenge to do
phin dont say mother
short rover
okay guys gals and enby pals whats the worst challenge to do
Devotee
coral nimbus
okay guys gals and enby pals whats the worst challenge to do
pilg
craggy plank
the true chill challenges are the one that makes you do a lot of things in multiple places (collector, scholar, descension)
short rover
Pilgrimage is easy compared to the bs that is devotee
craggy plank
so you're both not under pressure and don't get bored
astral horizon
the true chill challenges are the one that makes you do a lot of things in multi...
kinds valid tbh
Scholar took so long to do
dense geode
Pilgrimage is easy compared to the bs that is devotee
i call bs on your message
coral nimbus
Pilgrimage is easy compared to the bs that is devotee
someone here is favoured my rng
short rover
i call bs on your message
No u
short rover
kinds valid tbh
Most people think pilgrimage is one of the harder ones at least
It is a bit tedious due to the cyan lizard being incredibly stupid
astral horizon
is it cus lineaging sucks
short rover
Also that
astral horizon
or is it lizar
short rover
Took me 3 hours to lineage the lizard
craggy plank
right now im just basically doing an intended route for collector. needed something less stressful after the last couple of challenges. so like. pretty much just playing the campaign. 
short rover
Ah nice
astral horizon
cus lizards in general are stupid little fuckheads i can only imagine taking one from OS all the way to pebbs
short rover
cus lizards in general are stupid little fuckheads i can only imagine taking one...
Also the cyan likes air
astral horizon
is there any reason why pilgrimage requires not climbing the way?
short rover
is there any reason why pilgrimage requires not climbing the way?
The wall?
craggy plank
im considering doing pilgrimage for my 20th challenge
quiet pilot
The real challenge is The Leg after all
short rover
The real challenge is The Leg after all
I think memory crypts are harder
i died like one time in the leg
astral horizon
i feel like crypts would be way worse
quiet pilot
I think memory crypts are harder
Memory Crypts, it was like second or third try; The Leg? Took multiple hours.
short rover
Our experiences are very different lol
astral horizon
at least RNG wise crypts would be worse
short rover
Opposite here
quiet pilot
You forget the rooms of three DLLs back to back and one loud zippy cyan
short rover
You forget the rooms of three DLLs back to back and one loud zippy cyan
Just rush
And hope the cyan survives
Worked for me
quiet pilot
My cyan likes to pick fights
short rover
My cyan likes to pick fights <:monkdesperation:1099813894047932416>
That's why you rush
Maybe Einstein wasn't that dumb after all?
dense geode
I think memory crypts are harder
hard disagree
i got through memory after 30ish attempts or smth. leg took me over a day
because of how fucking stupid cyans and dlls are
graceful blaze
its 2 am go bed instead
no. I make pizza
graceful blaze
phin dont say mother
Mother.
craggy plank
average navigator moment btw
austere schooner
why are you going backwards
distant kestrel
Obligatory good thing DS is not required joke
celest ruin
but i love your silly sug skin :3
craggy plank
thanks! it's "wow a cosmetic for inv" by Dieselpvnk.
dawn dragon
i had an expedition where i lineaged a 10% centiwing into a red centipede in one...
Isnt that the kavaya centiwing
I mean isnt going backwards for navigator still okay
The leech tunnel is free with bubble weed in stomach
craggy plank
getting through drainage that way is much more tedious and requires you to go through more rooms
cunning glacier
Obligatory good thing DS is not required joke
Bad navigator
craggy plank
definitely possible, as even with my cringe fail movement tech I was able to reach the gate multiple times, just never pass through it. but not efficient.
balmy falcon
suboptimal navi routes are more fun for verifiers to watch 
balmy falcon
average navigator moment btw
HOLY SHIT LMAO
patent turtle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=440QjPL5TJ4
EXCEEDINGLY based music choice
azure current
thanks
sudden swan
sudden swan
https://youtu.be/EbRhuWFG9jQ
short rover
Well done with elder!
Maybe the scavs will finally stop being assholes to you now that you have helped them
Probably not...
astral horizon
did we ever get an answer on whether echo is allowed for elder?
verbal mural
it is
balmy falcon
ayo nice
astral horizon
i got my 6th mask with the vulture finally lmao
verbal mural
but have fun transporting them to su/gw
balmy falcon
also tbh i didn't bother asking this, but
did we have to kill the vulture
or can you just show it demasked
astral horizon
fuck
balmy falcon
i suppose killing it is safer anyhow
verbal mural
i think just the demask lol
astral horizon
cus i did not kill my 6th vulture lmao
balmy falcon
i killed all of mine
astral horizon
okay good
balmy falcon
just to be safe
astral horizon
i got lucky with demasking with a spear
balmy falcon
it doesn't really matter ngl as long as you show the vulture and the mask
verbal mural
as long as it's clear it wasn't spawned in with beastmaster or something lmao
balmy falcon
yeah
astral horizon
and he flew away (bitch) before i could confirm the kill
balmy falcon
astral horizon
valid?
i panicked when i realized i somehow demasked him and started flailing to try and get my recording up just to make sure i got the proof since he'd probably fly away while i was trying to get a screenshot
astral horizon
yeah ill SS from the clip for convinience i just wanted to make sure this was cool
thank god for xbox companion recording the last 30s
sudden swan
is yt still processing the video or something lol
Probably
astral horizon
i made it to pebbles as hunter !!!! so fucking hype
okay so i need some advice
someone who's more experienced than me might have a good brief guide for me
dense geode
someone who's more experienced than me might have a good brief guide for me
what on exactly?
routing to moon? nab a neuron in pebbles, then go to shaded through industrial. do not go underhang/leg
or shoreline through garbage
astral horizon
-im currently at the top of the wall, pebbles visited and max karma
-im going for outlaw & ranger ideally at the same time for effiiency and challenge
-15 cycles left
-still need black, red and salamander lizards, snail, monster kelp, adult pede, red pede, mouse, both spiders, miros bird, BLL and DLL, and jetfish
-have not delivered the payload
astral horizon
yerp
short rover
It is
short rover
You need explosive spears for the dll and bll
dense geode
red in industrial (cheese with explosive spears if you must)
astral horizon
i figured why not. fun challenge that will force me to git gud and efficiency
short rover
One spear to the core is enough
short rover
red in industrial (cheese with explosive spears if you must)
Phin killed like 9 with bombs
Normal bombs
dense geode
You need explosive spears for the dll and bll
but there is the scav storeroom nearby the shelter that is near both their spawns
dense geode
Phin killed like 9 with bombs
grenades my beloved, inconsistent af
short rover
Red lizs die to two explosive spears I think?
short rover
Eh, two explodies + a few stabs for good measure
dense geode
someitmes they need an extra spear but the time they are stunned allows an easy one
austere schooner
don’t bother delivering the neuron to moon
dense geode
-im currently at the top of the wall, pebbles visited and max karma
-im going fo...
oh
astral horizon
no?
short rover
Yeah, shoreline sucks for points
astral horizon
don’t bother delivering the neuron to moon
how come?
dense geode
and get the miro and jetfish in sub
astral horizon
ohh
austere schooner
the points are bad
short rover
You can go for it for lore reasons if you want to
astral horizon
sorry my bitch wife no cancer cure for you i suppose
austere schooner
if you can get decent points every cycle anywhere else then it’s not worth it
little tree
Moon is just old lady
short rover
Something like that
dense geode
id say farm points between outskirts industrial and chimney, until around cycle 5 (after getting the kills for ranger that are somewhat out of the way like spiders and lantern mice
or cycle 3 if you wanna be sure
then go to drainage, i say 3 to give yourself that extra cycle incase shit goes wrong
little tree
Chimney has nuts hunter spawns
astral horizon
what about miros bird? how do i deal with them shitheads
verbal mural
explosive spear to the body
austere schooner
stab
short rover
what about miros bird? how do i deal with them shitheads
Explody spear to core
One shots
little tree
One shot vs one shot
astral horizon
very cool!
verbal mural
you could trade for one at the merchant in shaded or get chieftan and lead scavs to the miros birds in sub
short rover
Get chieftain anyways
astral horizon
miros birds are in sub??
verbal mural
and then loot their drops
short rover
For the score points
verbal mural
yeeee
dense geode
miros birds are in sub??
jetfish too
short rover
And leviathan lol
astral horizon
is this hunter spawns or some shit
short rover
Jetfish are
astral horizon
cus ion remember seeing any of this
dense geode
short rover
I'm pretty sure
verbal mural
nah they're there in monk/surv too iirc
short rover
Miros birds not
little tree
Literally feels like every mob spawns in sub
austere schooner
they should add a rain deer to that room
astral horizon
worm
dense geode
astral horizon
where do they spawn?
miros i mean
like where do they appear/where should i be looking
dense geode
here
verbal mural
here
austere schooner
link the map tanny
astral horizon
just anywhere at random?
verbal mural
lmao you beat me to it
little tree
Tan wins
verbal mural
they come in from the edges of the room
dense geode
verbal mural
also this room to the right
astral horizon
little tree
Devs really spawned two centipedes right in the middle of miros birds
short rover
SB G03 and SB JO1
astral horizon
aw schweet
dense geode
Devs really spawned two centipedes right in the middle of miros birds
its them trying to make up for their sins for the centipede room in drainage
verbal mural
the centis were made to die
dense geode
nothing can forgive that sin however..
astral horizon
now, is it worth going to shoreline to get wanderer, or waste of a cycle?
short rover
its them trying to make up for their sins for the centipede room in drainage
Or the centi pit
In sub
little tree
its them trying to make up for their sins for the centipede room in drainage
That room makes my eyes boggle like a scavenger when I walk into it
austere schooner
yummy 70 points
verbal mural
resisting the urge to tell about the shoreline wanderer scorerunning strat...
short rover
Hunter drainage sure is... different...
verbal mural
ok actually
short rover
Do it
verbal mural
have you met the shaded echo yet
astral horizon
now, is it worth going to shoreline to get wanderer, or waste of a cycle?
can i starve here > get the shaded echo and not waste the cycle or is this not allowed?
dense geode
Hunter drainage sure is... different...
it sure is something alright 
astral horizon
have you met the shaded echo yet
nope