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[balmy falcon]

cause gwyn pinged me in rw spoilers and sort of spoiled the surprise no hard feelings though

i'm not sure if lyn can give you the role, but someone pinged twelve havens limitless trials last night?

[austere schooner]

grats on champs

[balmy falcon]

thank you

[agile tulip]

im do that too, congrats on getting taffy spear icon

[proven shadow]

i officially hate chef again, after briefly thinking it wasn't so bad

the jetfish just died

for no reason

[agile tulip]

uhhhh natural causes uhhhhhhhh...

[tranquil stream]

whar

[proven shadow]

they do that sometimes

just inflate and die

[agile tulip]

its either he decided to die or the other jetfish bumped him and he had a heart attack

[austere schooner]

i have 3 left until ascended and i’m nearly done guardian, the problem is the only easy ones left are long and the only short ones left are hard

[distant kestrel]

I meannn

it's not against the rules

[proven shadow]

some short hard ones aren't as bad as they look

[austere schooner]

is there a navigator route that doesn’t need me to eihop

also not sure about this green

[proven shadow]

...yes?

[tranquil stream]

yes

[proven shadow]

the easiest is CC-HI-SU-DS-GW-HI-SH

you can also do CC-HI-SH-SL-GW-HI-SU, but that one is tighter time-wise

and of course, the psycho route that goes through sky islands

but like, why

anyway, i'm currently in shoreline on cycle 9 as hunter

think that's enough?

[distant kestrel]

you have to pass through the gates, not just touch them

[proven shadow]

for chef

[distant kestrel]

the experience, honor

[distant kestrel]

it's a very lenient challenge unless you don't want it to be

[verbal mural]

just go su > hi > cc > wall/uh/leg > sh/mc > hi > gw

[proven shadow]

so optimal

wow

i also love how underhang is just "uh"

[verbal mural]

lol

[proven shadow]

i read that part as you being uncertain about the route

[verbal mural]

lmaoooo

[sweet oracle]

navigator is pretty lenient yeah

you can make mistakes and still complete it especially bc you don't need to rest now

[distant kestrel]

Yes that gives you like an extra 20 seconds

Because you don't need to make the last gate anymore

[sweet oracle]

i did my successful* run with a horrible outskirts route bc i forgor the best way to reach drainage

*did not know that it had been updated to not need resting so didn't submit

still i got more gamer cred doing it the hard way so that's all that matters

[austere schooner]

[sweet oracle]

i would say journey is significantly less lenient on mistakes

especially because most people don't know filtration very well

[proven shadow]

i can't get the jetfish up here because there's 2 snails and one annoying as fuck local jetfish bumping me

i actually want to scream right now

and now i have to walljump with it

oh god

this is the worst

i actually don't know how to do this

[tranquil stream]

you can climb it but I personally can't do wall jumps that much height without falling

I moved through bll room

[proven shadow]

that is a lot more feasible

thank you

[agile tulip]

i did that room with walljumps but that option is more sane

i had more tolerance for it since i was messing around with wallpounces in painage

drainage syustem

me fvrt regon...

[proven shadow]

what reason do the jetfish have to be such a nuisance

why do they just murder the albino on first sight

this is so fucked up

[agile tulip]

RACISM?????? aaaAA

[coral nimbus]

mfw i can orbskip with a single spear b2b2b during practice attempts constantly but when it comes to actual runs i fail them for minutes straight

[agile tulip]

performance anxiety is an infuriating substance

i know this because i literally forget the route in filtration when i get cornered by black lizards

[proven shadow]

i am also now learning that the jetfish LOVES jumping out of bounds in shelters

like, you have to grab it in the first 0.5 seconds of a cycle because otherwise it will just phase through a corner

[agile tulip]

oh yeah i had a heart attack or two during my chef run since i got like a, three-streak after sheltering with my fish to waking up, seeing it not in the shelter at all, and quitting and continuing to see it was STILL gone the moment the screen faded in

[dense geode]

To the back rooms to yee!

[tranquil stream]

I hate it! And not only in shelters but many other places

[proven shadow]

at last

[agile tulip]

yeah the clipping issue is VERY bad, basically any corner in a screen that the jetfish bumps into it can fall through and die

[proven shadow]

also, i'm on cycle 8 now

that's enough to make it to pebbles, right?

should be

[distant kestrel]

think i'm gonna have to call it a day

3 challenges on the backlog

sorry for the slow service

[agile tulip]

deletes like the entire backlog and apologizes

[tranquil stream]

Thank you!

[agile tulip]

dang....... thats gaming.....

[tranquil stream]

Are you going through shaded?

That seems like enough cycles

[proven shadow]

idk, i'm doubting myself a lot right now

and shaded is mandatory for chef

[tranquil stream]

Why?

[agile tulip]

i went garbage from shoreline

because im not dided liked my odds at shaded

though specifically garbage surface route is NOT GOOD if you don't two hand glitch a vulture mask

[verbal mural]

we appreciate your work

[tranquil stream]

Gw is nyoom with jetfish

[distant kestrel]

It was a long time coming

[proven shadow]

why does this always happen to me

[distant kestrel]

There was stuff from like 2 weeks ago in there

[proven shadow]

they're all stuck

[tranquil stream]

Is that memery crypts?

[carmine canyon]

PLEASE I JUST HAVE TO DO ONE MORE RUN

[proven shadow]

yeah

[verbal mural]

meme crypts route is impossible for chef

[proven shadow]

is it?

[carmine canyon]

JUST ONE MORE NEURON RUN AND THIS DLL WON'T MOVE

[verbal mural]

even if you two hand the grappling worm, the jetfish will still kill it from ramming into it

[balmy falcon]

timby you destroyed the whole backlog what are you talking about

thank you for verifying basically everything

[proven shadow]

why would i need the grapple though

[agile tulip]

that sucks

like a lot

[proven shadow]

the roll pounce is so insane

[distant kestrel]

My cousin beat it usingthat path

I saw it myself

[verbal mural]

WHAR

[distant kestrel]

Thanks banbs

[verbal mural]

i thought you needed the worm for at least like a couple rooms

[agile tulip]

worm cannot handle being near a jetfish

[distant kestrel]

Hopefully it should be more manageable

For a week or two

[proven shadow]

not gonna lie, i picked this route because i thought i HAD to go up the leg with the jetfish

like, i swear it was one of the rules

[balmy falcon]

are you confusing it with pilgrimage?

[proven shadow]

maybe

[agile tulip]

i think it's pilgrimage rules bleeding into your brain

[proven shadow]

in any case, this seems very reasonable for now

[distant kestrel]

Pilgrimage induced trauma

[proven shadow]

pilgrimage sure did make my brain bleed

[agile tulip]

true! i miss Freeman, though....

[verbal mural]

pilgrimage and chef at the same time

[agile tulip]

the general consensus is that pilgrimage hurts like hell but you love the cyan at the end

[balmy falcon]

i feel like tannyn would argue otherwise

[proven shadow]

i didn't finish pilgrimage because i tried to be clever and passaged from one side of exterior to the next

and the cyan disappeared without a trace

never touched it since

[verbal mural]

[balmy falcon]

[agile tulip]

ummmmmmm ok so yes

[proven shadow]

if i ever do pilgrimage however, i'm giving it a difficulty rating of 1 out of spite

[agile tulip]

rigging detected rigging detected

[proven shadow]

it's not rigging, it's justice

righteous vengeance

[coral nimbus]

[verbal mural]

i cheesed tf out of pilg and i still rated it 10

[proven shadow]

how does one cheese it

[balmy falcon]

i don't think death glitching necessarily counts as cheesing??

[verbal mural]

it's impossible now but in v1.5 i deathglitched all the miros birds and dlls

[proven shadow]

that sounds... very tedious

[verbal mural]

it took me like a hundred cycles and ~50-60 bombs stolen from the scav treasury in hi

it WAS

[agile tulip]

i think you can still deathglitch with vanilla exploits

dont quote me on that

please

[proven shadow]

how do you even deathglitch a DLL

[verbal mural]

i tried it, deathglitched stuff still comes back after a few cycles

[distant kestrel]

I did grow to love my cyan but purely because it was incredibly competent in the exterior

[proven shadow]

anything other than a boomstick takes 50 billion years to do any real damage

[agile tulip]

ok REALLY dont quote me on that

[distant kestrel]

I had all the intention to murder it at the end

[verbal mural]

2-3 bombs to the core will deathglitch it, 5 will kill it

about the same with miros birds, most of them i think got deathglitched with 2

[austere schooner]

oh fuck yes

[proven shadow]

exact opposite for me. 2/3 of my attempts in the exterior failed in the first 10 seconds because the cyan fell to its death immediately after coming out

[verbal mural]

oh yeah and i guess i deathglitched some monster kelps too lol

[distant kestrel]

Did you murder yours

[agile tulip]

oh god what shelter was that

[coral nimbus]

[austere schooner]

wh

how do you possibly death glitch a kelp

[coral nimbus]

the lizard is specifically making fun of eceryone who did pilgrimage

[verbal mural]

2 spears and then go to sleep

[austere schooner]

[verbal mural]

[austere schooner]

that’s fucked

[verbal mural]

on this point, i guess it's not cheesing cause i probably spent the same amount of time deathglitching as i would have if i just did pilg normally

[agile tulip]

memory with no miros

no......

[distant kestrel]

Forgotten crypts

(Home to 3 baby centipedes)

[agile tulip]

would not be as memorable a subregion if they designed it like that imo

[coral nimbus]

okay i just did 1 spear orb skip 8 times in a row
dont tell me ill mess up for for minutes straight in a real run now

[verbal mural]

those centis ruled over all the crypts

my cyan had the smoothest trip up to pebbles of all time

[distant kestrel]

Ask mewoli

[balmy falcon]

if you screw up one spear orb skip just grab a second spear

[coral nimbus]

I think that at that point i might just not go for it at all
since the pole climb is long for me due to no fpc and if im going into the orb for a spear might as well pass it whole
I found only 1 spear skip worth the trouble

[balmy falcon]

honestly fair, whatever works for you

[proven shadow]

btw, fun fact: the very first room of the leg has regular rain

[balmy falcon]

i forgot you can't do fpc

[proven shadow]

just water, no shocks

[balmy falcon]

... huh

[proven shadow]

or maybe the shocks come later

[coral nimbus]

Who do we blame on that one

[proven shadow]

but there was definitely regular wet rain starting

[agile tulip]

The Rain World?

[balmy falcon]

that's really interesting

[proven shadow]

actually, no

i think i know what happened

the rain trigger happened while i was still in crypts

and so it started crypts rain in the leg

[balmy falcon]

huh

[agile tulip]

that makes me more concerned

[distant kestrel]

Yeah I've had that happen once

[proven shadow]

this is gonna be an experience

i can already tell

oh, and i'm already looking forward to the FUN room that will be very FUN

okay, maybe it's not gonna be as bad as i thought

the jetfish works pretty well as a shield

with good positioning you can block all the darts with it

[austere schooner]

for guardian, is it better to go through farm to sub or back through cc hi su ds?

[dense geode]

Thank you timby

[glacial barn]

apparently ive been verified, but i dont have the role

bruh

[balmy falcon]

timby doesn't have the power to give you the role unfortunately

but someone else will probably come along to give it to you later

[sweet oracle]

if you've got time to experiment: what happens if the zaps start in the leg and you go to memory crypts?

i would assume you get zapped to death in mc

[balmy falcon]

most likely

[dense bone]

is there any difference between how 13m cycle config and no randomised cycles work?

[balmy falcon]

nope, it's the exact same

[valid stone]

Cool

[balmy falcon]

i don't have cycle config, i just use no randomized cycles for any challenge that says it needs a 13 minute config

[sweet oracle]

i think the 13m cycle config is just a relic of 1.5

[balmy falcon]

it's a mod that lets you set the cycle length

[sweet oracle]

yea

but we have rain world remix now sooo

[balmy falcon]

13 minutes is max length cycles, and remix just has that option now

yeah

do console players have 1.9 like they're just waiting for the downpour release right

[sweet oracle]

nope

[balmy falcon]

is 1.9 out on all platforms?

what

[sweet oracle]

console players suffer

[balmy falcon]

[sweet oracle]

well actually they do have 1.9

but no rw remix

[balmy falcon]

bruh

i thought remix was a 1.9 thing...

[sweet oracle]

so its almost identical to 1.5

i think it's identical to the last console version but idk

[balmy falcon]

damn

that really sucks

console players can't even use cycle config can they?

[sweet oracle]

nope lol

[balmy falcon]

june better bring good things or i'll commit arson /hj

[dense bone]

sweet thx

[balmy falcon]

what challenge are you doing?

[dense bone]

i was doing the journey one

[balmy falcon]

ooooh good luck

[dense bone]

tysm

[austere schooner]

insane urge to finish guardian challenge but there’s work to be done

this delayed gratification is gonna hit so hard

[sweet oracle]

imo the speedrun challenges are the most fun

[balmy falcon]

yeah i really enjoy those

[sweet oracle]

no using jank unreliable mechanics, just play the game really well

[proven shadow]

the jetfish tendency to fall out of bounds is killing me

the moment i drop it to get a snack, it just fucks off into the shadow realm

[proven shadow]

after much suffering, i have made it to the fun part

not fun part

bad part

not as bad as the spiders, but still bad

why did i not just go chimney like a normal person

the idea of 3 vultures on a long, smooth stretch of land just seems so serene

actually, the wall would be pretty damn bad too

ooh, maybe the play was chimney to underhang?

now THAT would be a route

[balmy falcon]

i'm pretty sure people say hi to pebbles before skittering off to RTA not sure though

also i'm not sure how you'd do west underhang without a worm

like jetfish boosted movement and all but ??

[proven shadow]

you underestimate the fish of jet

[balmy falcon]

[proven shadow]

a slide pounce with it is like a really good eihop

[balmy falcon]

h m

my question with the underhang is really like. can hunter jump far enough to grab poles with the jetfish weighing them down

[proven shadow]

and you can chain HUGE roll pounces without actually rolling for any amount of time

[proven shadow]

yes

[balmy falcon]

sweet

[proven shadow]

interestingly enough, you jump a lot further if you aren't at the tip of the pole

which is backwards compared to how it normally is

and with some jumps you need either pole boosting or turn stored flips to get the height

not a lot though

honestly, the challenge difficulty is going to be very hard to rate

with my current experience of it, it's an 8

without the jetfish falling out of bounds it would be a 6

[balmy falcon]

huh

god yeah i hate jetfish

[proven shadow]

actually bump that up to 9 and 7 respectively

i am suffering after all

i bet it's a lot easier if you do a more sane route though

oh well, too committed now

[balmy falcon]

possibly

[proven shadow]

the nice part is how you can easily reset if it falls off

deadly falls are always accessible

no need to quit out

[balmy falcon]

[coral nimbus]

i just messed up an Ascension run by being so nervous in filtration (pretty sure i got shortest cycle timer) i dropped a held item and met a black liz which was escaping to its den on the way to the end, who then killed me : (
I think thats enough attempts for me for today

[balmy falcon]

[coral nimbus]

but the clip had the longest zonkerdoodle tongue i ever saw

so im saving it

I would have had 11 minutes for depths

[proven shadow]

my pain is immeasurable

[balmy falcon]

oh wow that's a great pace

[balmy falcon]

bonked to death...

[coral nimbus]

Due to the short cycle timer, the Wall wasn't a problem
Although i had to do the most nerve wracking orb skip of my life
by the time i got to the top of the room i was being weighted down, so i barely made it

[proven shadow]

the bonk is not the problem, i'm just used to the pounce velocity to air acceleration ratio of regular movement, and so overestimated my ability to air strafe back to the ledge

what i should've done is slow down and carefully slide down

[balmy falcon]

man yeah

i personally find like. third shortest cycle length is ideal for me

because it gives me just enough time to get up to the top of the orb room before it starts raining

and then every lizard above the rain band is gone

you're on a great pace though sounds like faster than me certainly

[coral nimbus]

But i am now starting to feel what Timby said about "every run you start being like buying a lottery ticket"
I have seen alot of wack rng i havent seen before

and yea i pulled off 1 spear UW_A12 and then just hauled ass till i got bit by black liz

[proven shadow]

the fucking jetfish fell out of the map as i was DIRECTLY next to the final shelter of underhang, getting my cyan snack

that one glitch is by FAR the worst part of the challenge

[coral nimbus]

I still do not get why the collisions are this janky

[proven shadow]

it would probably be pleasant if not for this

[coral nimbus]

like sure, the designers 100% thought that you won't come on any sort of land with a Jetfish, but its so dumb

[proven shadow]

and you know what's the worst part here?

this is a 100% intended part of the challenge

there is no other reason to have the jetfish be alive

it would not fall out of the map if it was dead

[coral nimbus]

Fighting against the game instead of fighting the games enviroment i see

[proven shadow]

i'm afraid chef goes into my black list after this

not approved

[proven shadow]

yes

[distant kestrel]

you're the one who wanted to go this way

[proven shadow]

and i have (almost) done it

[distant kestrel]

I can respect it

[proven shadow]

and also, i didn't WANT to go this way

i didn't think i had a different option

[distant kestrel]

a good chef seasons their meals with the finest dart maggots

and the all consuming rot

[proven shadow]

got my wires crossed because of pigrimage

[distant kestrel]

this dish will be to die for

[proven shadow]

there was no rot on the way

many darts though

[distant kestrel]

damn it

not even a little

how about some miros bird dust

it's like pepper

[proven shadow]

got some rot

is this enough?

[distant kestrel]

yes, exquisite

[proven shadow]

okay, asking just in case

is it safe to let go of the jetfish in 0g

or will it still find a corner to glitch into

[distant kestrel]

it probably won't clip through anything but it might be annoying to get back

I dunno nobody takes this path lol

[proven shadow]

i need a garnish of neurons because i'm at 1 pip atm

you were right about getting the jetfish back being annoying

the neuron swarms are not making it easy

chef achieved

i didn't realise how violently i would be thrown around while eating

i bet that was also a sneaky last trick of the challenge

getting all this way, just to get zapped while eating

https://youtu.be/7vtYXGAiZ30

i'm torn between giving the challenge a difficulty of 9 from my experience, or estimating a lower rating for a more reasonable route

[distant kestrel]

the ratings are supposed to be based on your own experience

there's people who rate passages 10 bruh

[proven shadow]

guess i'll up the delta of the rating a bit

[agile tulip]

What

[distant kestrel]

I'm serious

[agile tulip]

i..i kno... but i couldnt hlep but say i....

[agile tulip]

i..... i mean yeah, i guess if it's their experience.

[proven shadow]

navigator stats look weird

[distant kestrel]

why did lyn rate navi 10

[proven shadow]

actually, devotee is even weirder

average of 6, with a mode of 3

[final wagon]

Isn't the mode 7

[proven shadow]

3

[distant kestrel]

says 7 on my end

mode is 3 for usurper though

[final wagon]

I see 7

[proven shadow]

usurper is at 6 for me

okay, which one of us is working with false info

[final wagon]

That's so weird

[proven shadow]

your version is more recent because you have one extra devotee submission

but there is no way one of them would switch the mode from 3 to 7 without affecting the average

since it would then have to be a rating of 7

a.k.a. more than 6

[distant kestrel]

why does safari require a non starve rest

[proven shadow]

okay, i refreshed the page and now it looks like what you have

[distant kestrel]

why are non starve rests even a requirement you would consider in a challenge that allows set up

[proven shadow]

because you need a good sleep after a long day of safari sightseeing

idk

[distant kestrel]

the challenge = stocking your ending shelter with 2 baby centipedes beforehand

[proven shadow]

especially since it's normally done in sub afaik

right next to the 4 baby centipede room

[distant kestrel]

navigator used to have the same thing until I campaigned against it

(I did not feel like setting up food in the final shelter)

[proven shadow]

even in navigator it made more sense

[final wagon]

Wait did that requirement get removed?

[distant kestrel]

yes

[final wagon]

I just eat a stored neuron

[distant kestrel]

a few days ago

[final wagon]

Interesting

[distant kestrel]

it doesn't change the challenge fundamentally

so I questioned its existence

[proven shadow]

btw, i wonder what percentage of the screenshot challenge submissions are cheated

i am 100% certain some are

[distant kestrel]

imagine watching the insane sky islands route but they starved at the end (epic fail)

oh yeah for sure

it's very hard to tell with the screenshots

I'd like to think most people are honest though

[final wagon]

Why would you bother for a different name colour though

[proven shadow]

you underestimate the pettiness of some people

[agile tulip]

though you could say some of the cheating isnt really intentional

people just kind of forget MSC is on

[proven shadow]

some, yeah

i mean stuff like using dev tools

and then turning them off for the screenshot

[agile tulip]

i nearly owned myself by having MSC on as well

[proven shadow]

same

even though MSC wouldn't really affect that challenge, having mother get invalidated by something this dumb would be soul crushing

[agile tulip]

for me having msc on in vanilla campaigns i stop thinking about it until i fall into water and see a lilypuck and im like "oh"

[balmy falcon]

same tbh

[distant kestrel]

I haven't played with msc on in forever

vanilla is perfect

(also the msc competitive scene doesn't really appeal to me and that's mostly what I play rw for)

[agile tulip]

vanilla is perfect until i get 1 framed out of a pipe by a red lizard then i post my anger on various web forums

not like msc fixes that so eh

wait, msc competitive scene? that exists already?

[distant kestrel]

yea

people run msc characters

the runs don't look fun to me, though

[agile tulip]

ah

[distant kestrel]

vanilla is perfect except for rain deer, pipe centipedes, red lizards (in general) and gay baby jail in cc

[balmy falcon]

the what now

[agile tulip]

i dont have context for the last one tbh but at least i dont have to get instakilled by pipe centipedes anymore

[distant kestrel]

you knoww

the gay baby jail

where gay babies are held captive

[balmy falcon]

i really don't, what room are you referring to?

[verbal mural]

he's referring to CC_GAYBABYJAIL

[distant kestrel]

if you go into this corner you get softlocked

[agile tulip]

wtf

[distant kestrel]

the funniest part is the fixed it in msc

but added a new gay baby jail

[balmy falcon]

[agile tulip]

what NO

[distant kestrel]

the world always finds a way to balance itself out

[balmy falcon]

at this point most of my play time is either challenges or custom slugcats tbh

most of my contributions to the community are creative endeavors

[distant kestrel]

most of my contributions to the community are quips and 10 navigator verifications

[balmy falcon]

[agile tulip]

i usually just play hunter with basically infinite cycles and just go around bothering the ecosystem

[short rover]

I guess im not really one to say but the main vanilla runs were all like half filt/depths, which didnt appeal

[agile tulip]

it's weird that hunter just starts feeling normal after a while

[distant kestrel]

that's a fair thing to say

[agile tulip]

i keep thinking i'm going to get ganked by dropwigs in outskirts as survivor

[distant kestrel]

I really do feel like the abilities on the new cast really undermines what you can do with just your hands and feet though

that's what I live for

I can see the other side of the coin though

[agile tulip]

yeah what really makes you feel powerful for me is knowing what a creature can and can't do and smoking them on the spot

[balmy falcon]

they definitely feel like dlc cats

[agile tulip]

kind of like stuffing a centipede in a tunnel so it can't complete a circuit

[balmy falcon]

which isn't a bad thing, but definitely like an add on to an experience

if that makes sense

[distant kestrel]

I think the most badass thing ever is using nothing but your wit to make everyone grovel at your feet

[balmy falcon]

[distant kestrel]

like in a score runnn

hunter is so fucking cool man

they're just more physically capable

[agile tulip]

unfortunately i can still complain about red lizards because no matter whAT i DO I STILL GET BODY SHOTS WHEN THEY'RE RUNNING AT ME

[balmy falcon]

the little speed buff hunter gets still surprises me tbh

[distant kestrel]

red lizards are the worst creature in the game (outside of dlc)

it's not little at all

25% is HUGE

25% makes the difference for the bad navi route

[agile tulip]

yeah hunter speed is nuts

[short rover]

fair enough

[agile tulip]

before riv existed hunter was the cocaine boost i needed

[short rover]

also Im actually challenges now

well I was

[distant kestrel]

oh yeah

I saw the jank ass behavior of the fruit grapple

I was gonna test it out myself later, see if it'd make for a good challenge

the one problem with your idea is how far away shelters are, which would make resets super annoying

[short rover]

oh nice

yeah thats true

[agile tulip]

honestly i think monk is pretty funny as well just because of the stupid situations you can do based on reputation

most situations you're either:

literally freaking invisible for some reason

or

everyone is killing each other around you

[distant kestrel]

arti's got nothing on my double jumps

[short rover]

although denning at S04 it would only take like 25~ seconds to restart

[austere schooner]

martyr resets

[distant kestrel]

I hadn't considered that shelter lol

[sweet oracle]

[final wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG0IySoRhrE

Wait I have 10 challenges verified now

[distant kestrel]

Oh if you have 10 clears I can forward that to someone

If you want the champions role

[final wagon]

That would be good if you wouldn't mind

[desert jasper]

I just found this image from a while back, hopefully it counts cus you can kinda see the pearls in the background

you can see them better if open in browser

[final wagon]

Does that have downpour pearls as well?

[desert jasper]

no I didn't have downpour back then

theres one regular and 2 from 5p

also I don't think downpour was out yet lol

[final wagon]

Ah

There were more than 16 so I was confused

[desert jasper]

yeah

[final wagon]

I don't see why it wouldn't count for scholar then

[desert jasper]

"screenshot of shelter contents and map"

the first part is maybe dubious

[desert jasper]

also is "speedrun validation" just the ingame speedrun timer?

[balmy falcon]

it's a separate setting you can check in the options menu

[south mural]

is it normal for red lizards to kinda keep their tameness after dying by non-you?

[desert jasper]

you mean in the remix menu? I don't see anything like that in options

[balmy falcon]

no, it's not in remix

it should be in your options menu somewhere

it's literally called 'speedrun validation'

[desert jasper]

oh I'm just blind

[balmy falcon]

there you go

[south mural]

is it normal for red lizards to keep their tameness even after dying by wormgrass or another red lizard?

[balmy falcon]

... which lizard are you asking about exactly? i'm confused

[south mural]

the one that nonlethally bit me a few times and ignored me otherwise

[dense geode]

so for tasty, does it count if the centipede kills you, and then drags you into its den?

[south mural]

yes

[dense geode]

i mean like kills before even starting to enter the pipe

not as im going in

[south mural]

go see track sheet, someone did it that way

[dense geode]

aight

[desert jasper]

oh that's so much easier

[balmy falcon]

yeah someone got fried before getting dragged in

[south mural]

another thing: you can also cheese the challenge by using batfly spear glitch

[dense geode]

thats allowed?

[south mural]

yes (vannila exploits must be on)

[balmy falcon]

did they rule that it was okay??

[south mural]

someone also did it that way

wait a sec to find the link

[balmy falcon]

was it grizz or mirim, i don't remember

i thought grizz did it the regular way too

[dense geode]

the way to reverse the batfly glitch is impale the creature with the batfly spear correct?

[balmy falcon]

yeah

[dense geode]

sweet, im just gonna do that.

[balmy falcon]

link the spears, stick one of them in a centipede, damage it enough to get it into a den

and then be deleted from existence

[dense geode]

time to play my awful music tastes to make the reviewing experience even worse

[south mural]

idk where the link is, cannot find it by discod searching

sorry

[south mural]

oh wait here it is #1089326594541224006 message

[dense geode]

that is awesome

[south mural]

also Vannila exploits option is allowed

and some challenges (like Outlaw, Ranger and Descension) say that a certain exploit cannot be used

[balmy falcon]

did grizz actually submit that?

[south mural]

by mine (not really good) logic i think this means all other exploits can be done (i know deerskip, hand swap and starveflight are allowed for Devotee, despite not being said)

[south mural]

idk, try to find it yourself

[balmy falcon]

grizz didn't submit that one

[south mural]

damn

idk, try it the normal way or ping staff

go to hunter outskirts, strike an centipede 1 to 2 times, climb on a pole, then yeet yourself onto it while entering a shelter

like this

[austere schooner]

yea that isn’t a verified submission

also doing that is probably harder and more time consuming than doing it normally

[south mural]

Safari proof

[distant kestrel]

What'd you do grizz

[south mural]

#1089326594541224006 message

[south mural]

btw do red lizards keep their tameness after dying?

[distant kestrel]

No I think they're replaced by a completely new lizard

[dense geode]

tasty

funny challenge. not much else to say. 1/10
https://youtu.be/ukMr1BMixx4

10 challenges done

[balmy falcon]

what the fuck sort of skin is that

[south mural]

i gave one 3 centipedes, then it died to wormgrass and is passive to me next cycle

[dense geode]

i tried to go cursed

[distant kestrel]

It lacks a hat

What a pity

[distant kestrel]

Actually maybe they only reroll if they die by your hand

I know the death mechanics are different if you get credit for the kill

100% respawn chance vs 50/33%

[south mural]

i know they always respawn and never lineage when killed by nature

[dense geode]

is there a hat mod out?

[distant kestrel]

Sunhat

But that's it I think

I made a top hat for myself

[dense geode]

also no

if they die, its a new lizard and you'll have to start over

[south mural]

then what happened here (note the nonlethal bites and ignorance)

[distant kestrel]

Mean

[dense geode]

i honestly hav eno idea

[distant kestrel]

Yeah I dunno

Maybe it's the same lizard if they die by natural causes

[dense geode]

your lizard may have been the lizard who lived instead of dying previously. and got snippy

also side note, why are you taming a red in sub

[south mural]

both died past cylcle, both to wormgrass

[dense geode]

[south mural]

Safari

[south mural]

and this is doublespawn, not triplespawn, bc i have no skill, and the other shelter has Spitter spider

so it cannot be a lizard which didnt die, since there are only 2

the rooms in question

[desert jasper]

you didn't get all three on one screen though

[south mural]

Wait you need them AT ONCE?

gotta restart then

[coral nimbus]

I can imagine as to why this room may not be the best for it
Because the red liz instantly killing the spitter
And yes you do

[austere schooner]

TIL snails can just die of fear

[distant kestrel]

How

Did you go boo

[austere schooner]

vulture went boo

[south mural]

gotta lineage again

[distant kestrel]

Did you clip it

[desert jasper]

thats how I interpreted the challenge desc

[austere schooner]

maybe the vulture bit it but i thought vulture bites normally never do damage

[balmy falcon]

that seems to only apply to slugcat and lizards ? for some reason?

[south mural]

they never kill you, but i think it deals damage

[balmy falcon]

maybe yeah

cause i watched a vulture bite a scav, then drop it, and the scav was dead

[coral nimbus]

Their bites deal damage
Although very little

[austere schooner]

hmm

well i hibernated after this

D:

surely mods won't mind if i just spawn in a snail with the same id

[distant kestrel]

Well vulture bites can kill grubs can't they

So surely chip a little

[south mural]

i think you cannot use mods to setup stuff

but you can just not hibernate and try next cycle

[austere schooner]

^

[desert jasper]

https://youtu.be/U6gGtfNod0g

I did this to feel better about myself after failing at navigator like 10 times in a row

[austere schooner]

hmmm

[desert jasper]

?

im pretty sure I had remix off for this

[austere schooner]

this isn't for your run dw

[dense geode]

[austere schooner]

okay dullberry has been successfully resurrected

[tranquil stream]

congratz! But FP gate screenshot??

[south mural]

Safari proof (all 3 are seen on screen at around 1:20)

[desert jasper]

nice

[shy nova]

tasty

[dense bone]

chieftain

leukocyte

[dawn dragon]

gw doesnt connect to sh with msc disabled laooo

[dense bone]

passages

[dawn dragon]

starting my chem in uni this year

[dense bone]

journey - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk5dxVIFtzo

sorry for spamming lol i had a bit of a backlog of things to submit

[dense geode]

uh, gutter isnt apart of base game

you did disable msc right?

[dense bone]

yeah i did this a while ago before i knew that lol

i should probs edit the title

[dense geode]

okay. just making sure. cause even having it on automatically invalidates a run

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1098323834727301174/1099411868528947200/IMG_5844.gif

[dense bone]

yeah i had speedrun validation on luckily which shows no msc

[proven shadow]

oh, i forgot it

that's okay though, i posted it around here somewhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vtYXGAiZ30

chef resubmission

[short rover]

Okay, how do I not double spawn a region?

Because right now I'm stuck in a region

That I accidentally doublespawned

[proven shadow]

what is done cannot be undone

[short rover]

Yeah, but like in the future

How do I not do it

[proven shadow]

so really what you're asking is how do you DO it

so you can then avoid it

[short rover]

Yes

[proven shadow]

and the answer is as follows: you double spawn a region by either starving on your first visit, or entering it twice on the same cycle

combining the two results in a triple spawn

[short rover]

Ah, I see

Thank you

[dawn dragon]

What should my next challenge be

Suggestions?

Thinking maybe journey

[proven shadow]

can't suggest without having any idea of your remaining challenges or skill level

[dawn dragon]

I haven't done a single other challenge other than visitor

I can do outlaw fairly easily I reckon

Or even saint

[proven shadow]

yeah, outlaw is pretty easy as long as you understand how much you can cut corners compared to proper score runs

i made it hard for myself by going for all the hard strats

[dawn dragon]

I mean proper score runs hit like 50k so 8k is fairly doable

I might try all passages and do the hard strats tho

Since I'm looking to score run eventually

[proven shadow]

there's also way easier challenges out there

i think at this point, with the new 30, you can get champions with minimal effort, and ascended with only 1 or 2 hard ones

[dawn dragon]

I'll skip the rng ones

I don't mind something with high mechanical skill

I just get pissed at rng

[proven shadow]

(assuming the staff actually aknowledge your existence and give you the )

(which they haven't done yet)

[dawn dragon]

Mother sounds very rng with the eggs at the top left of SI

Gonna get omega sniped by cyans

[proven shadow]

why top right

[dawn dragon]

Left

[proven shadow]

ah

[dawn dragon]

Sorry

[proven shadow]

yeah, it's awful

but if you are efficient at movement, you have a time buffer of like 2-3 minutes

time to spend on luring out the cyans and stabbing them

[dawn dragon]

I haven't even learnt to eslide consistently yet

[proven shadow]

not too many places to use that on mother anyway

if you know how to slide pounce, you're pretty much already there

the rest is just a bonus

oh, and fast pole climbing

that one's big

[dawn dragon]

Yeah I can do all intermediate movement just less consistently sometimes

Is there enough time to get a vul mask

[proven shadow]

not really

unless you get lucky and a vulture comes down in one of the first rooms

[dawn dragon]

Saint sounds like I will accidentally double spawn every region cos I'll likely keep starving and fixing

[proven shadow]

no need for that

just route around popcorn

[dawn dragon]

Also I should get vul mask for Saint right

At LF

[proven shadow]

i would get it in chimney, with vulture cheese

much less risky

[dawn dragon]

SI sounds like shit to go through without a mask tho

[proven shadow]

you can go through farm and up

[dawn dragon]

It's just the cyans on that island

[proven shadow]

the mask isn't as mandatory as you might think

remember that you can still do violence

just don't finish them off

[dawn dragon]

Yeah like rubble and shit

[proven shadow]

even spears

[dawn dragon]

Yeah

[proven shadow]

spear a cyan once and it's in retreating mode

[dawn dragon]

I see

I might do saint first then

Like the nice thing about getting mask in LF is you just get it once and if you fail you just restart

If you succeed just save the run

[proven shadow]

it's not worth

you're gonna waste a lot of time on restarts

[dawn dragon]

Okay

Is the nearest popcorn at the cyan island in SI

[proven shadow]

yup

[dawn dragon]

Alright

[proven shadow]

or in outskirts, depending on your route

[dawn dragon]

Technically you can't eat infant centis or noots right

[proven shadow]

you can

they don't count

[dawn dragon]

I mean even if they did there's nothing to prove it on the score screen

[proven shadow]

that's why they don't count

eat without worry

[sweet oracle]

they cap out at like 25k if you don't use stuff like starve echo cycles and double spawning

and if you do it's hard to go above 50k without entering negative cycles iirc

going above 70k without downpour has yet to be done

[dawn dragon]

quad spawn industrial with dp

[tacit forge]

Will images of already collected arena unlocks like this be accepted for the collector challenge?

Or do i have to get them again on a new save file?

[tranquil stream]

they are accepted

[tacit forge]

Thanks

[dawn dragon]

wait where are the challenge saves

nvm saw the pin

[vast ridge]

Beat usurper I think

[slim owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROXRMHxwUMI

[dawn dragon]

yikes

shit reached here before rain timer

also i panicked into kelp

i prob need to save like 1min

[vast ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axxPj6nTps0

[steel compass]

this video is absolute chaos

congrats

[tacit forge]

Collector proof part 1

Collector proof part 2

yipee

[vast ridge]

[tacit forge]

That's 4 challenges done

Tasty, Leukocyte and Chieftan are fairly easy so ill get on those

[kind haven]

do the scavengers have to be living

[tacit forge]

yeah

[kind haven]

damn

[vast ridge]

yeah tasty is pretty easy

doing safari now and did it on the way there

[south mural]

Tip for safari: doublespawns are worth it

[kind haven]

how do you get eaten by a centipede

[brazen mesa]

Hurt it till it retreats

[dense geode]

it grabs you as it enters a pipe

[vast ridge]

oh true

[south mural]

Make it grab onto you while it is low HP and fleeing into a shelter

[dense geode]

and drags you to hell with it

[vast ridge]

you have to do that on region entry tho right

[dense geode]

yes

[kind haven]

is there a good room to do tasty in

[vast ridge]

eh I'll just do normal

any with centis

[dense geode]

hunter centipede room in outskirts is a common place

[vast ridge]

overgrown are nice they dip after 2 spears

[dense geode]

but really, it can be done anywhere if you know the centis den

[brazen mesa]

I lineaged in the feast room in garbage

[distant kestrel]

they don't have to be but

live scavs are easier

[south mural]

SU as Hunter

[kind haven]

they dont have to be?

[brazen mesa]

I thought you had to do it as survivor

[distant kestrel]

not to my knowledge

it makes it way harder for you though

[kind haven]

ok

[dense geode]

i would just glitch em in

get like 3-5 to follow you into a gate room as you got through

[kind haven]

scavs cant swim can they

[dense geode]

not very well, but they can swim

[dense geode]

oh, it needs to be gates going into shoreline (porbably shouldve said that to begin with)

[distant kestrel]

they can't dive

[dense geode]

timby do you ever sleep

istg i always see you online when i come to chat here

[distant kestrel]

yeah

for 8 hours at a time

do we share a timezone maybe

[dense geode]

im in central lmao

but possibly

who knows

[distant kestrel]

cst

[kind haven]

thankfully ii can remove slugcats ears and run still be valid

[dawn dragon]

someone plug me the FS route thanks

getting LOST

in the intraroom tunnels

[dense geode]

are you doing it blind?

[dawn dragon]

no neuron

so not that bad

[dense geode]

just in general, try to go down and to the left

[dawn dragon]

can i do the right most

[dense geode]

use your map to see where the pipes are

[vast ridge]

ok first one done

[dense geode]

are you bullying a green?

[kind haven]

is surivor meant to look like this

i didnt remove the eye

[dawn dragon]

idk

how to

[south mural]

DMS?

[dawn dragon]

idk how the pipes connect

[vast ridge]

hi

[dense geode]

wdhym

[vast ridge]

1 done already

[dawn dragon]

where does this lead to

[dense geode]

we got a person who is in touch with the lineage system, and it has blessed them

[dawn dragon]

okay whatever

no eslides

just slide pounce into rolls

uhhhhhhhhh

i do that rightmost route

there

[dawn dragon]

done

[distant kestrel]

best path

[dense geode]

i dont know either

[dawn dragon]

thanks timby

[dawn dragon]

so how would you expect me to know just by looking at the map 💀

[vast ridge]

slightly annoying to dodge that thing every cycle now but whatever

lizzy didn't respawn yet

[dawn dragon]

okay i will do it again!!

no MORE eslides

[dense geode]

well i dont usually take those shortcuts

[dawn dragon]

because I fuck those up really easily

[dense geode]

i just take a similar route that timby drew

[distant kestrel]

shortcuts r good

they're faster than you most of the time

unless you spam eijumps

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/804488985505955912/831089676580028496/Boosted_instant_hop.gif

[steel compass]

shortcuts are also safe

[kind haven]

whats the karma for drainage

[steel compass]

to getin?

from outskirts?

[tacit forge]

4 from outskirts

1 from garbage

[kind haven]

aaaaa

[steel compass]

4 from outskirts yeah

[tacit forge]

i think 1 for subterranean aswell

[kind haven]

why is my survivor a basic unity capsule

[distant kestrel]

Pill

[tacit forge]

Bean

[vast ridge]

@distant kestrel do you know what mode means

[kind haven]

i jsut stabbed a salamander gave it the chance to run aand it killed me

[dawn dragon]

nice my thumb broke at the end of DS so i legit couldnt wall jump

gonna get carpal tunnel

[kind haven]

can i get to gw from ds

[tacit forge]

yes

through the leech tunnel

[kind haven]

how do i get through here

[tacit forge]

go down and left

[kind haven]

im gonna drown

[tacit forge]

this is a better route

[kind haven]

you can go through that?????????????

[tacit forge]

yeah

[kind haven]

ohhhmhmhmgmgmg

[tacit forge]

the interactive map is useful for checking routes and room geometry
https://rain-world-map.github.io/map.html?slugcat=white&region=DS

[kind haven]

god damnit

[vast ridge]

lmfao

rip dumbass

[tacit forge]

lmao yes

fuck dropwigs man

[south mural]

perfection

[distant kestrel]

the most common number

[vast ridge]

ahhh

[kind haven]

is this good route

[tacit forge]

yeah thats the quickest one

[kind haven]

oh my good

5 leeches are

right beneath me

and im

right here

bringing a snail next time

[vast ridge]

A scav has gifted me with a bomb

And a lantern

Been like 5/6 cycles now and the lizard I killed hasn’t respawned yet

Ah he’s back

Still green

killed him

why

[kind haven]

how do i get scavsto follow me

[south mural]

80+ rep

Stay still for a while and they will rush to you

[kind haven]

how much rep is 3 perl

[south mural]

Based on how many scavs saw you gift the porl, and the "all" reputation

1 porl = 10 rep by default

[kind haven]

an entire toll saw me gift a porl

[south mural]

Toll passage gives like 15 rep ig

Gifting toll scavs stuff before you are allowed to pass doesnt increase rep

[kind haven]

i think this guy is following me

[vast ridge]

Got black liz

Killed it twice let’s see

Make that thrice

[south mural]

Did you doublespawn Sub btw?

[vast ridge]

Nah I already was in too far

[kind haven]

can they make this gap

[vast ridge]

Didn’t feel like going back again

[south mural]

Not reccomended

[kind haven]

how do they get across then

[south mural]

It is MUCH EASIER in the Subterranean to Shoreline gate

They spawn in the room next to it

[kind haven]

nevermind ill kill it and take it across

[south mural]

And they also just /tp to LttM once they enter shoreline this way

[vast ridge]

Oh nice lineaged the centi once finally

Lizard and spider aren’t coming back anymore rn

Gonna take a break now

[vast ridge]

take the spider out of there I'm begging

he took the centipede

holy fuck I somehow got it out myself finally

[verbal mural]

doing feast?

[vast ridge]

nah

safari

[balmy falcon]

i did that

made a whole video on it too

eight vultures in one room harassing one purple lizard

[dense geode]

someone should withhold their submissions for all 30 challenges, and then upload them all at once to create another backlog just to troll the staff

[balmy falcon]

[distant kestrel]

Just to troll me

[vast ridge]

RAAAH

WHY ARE YOU CLOSING

well look who decided to move in atleast

ok I got them out of there with devtools sue me

[dense geode]

watch as the staff invalidate it

[vast ridge]

got hungry

oh sick I got them all

gang

[verbal mural]

could you send a link?

[balmy falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AomdxhDh_Yo&t=171s

i'm learning so much about video editing for this one game

[verbal mural]

love the speedup for you holding V

looks like you're speedrunning it and just know exactly where to move the mouse over to lol

[balmy falcon]

well i did check the route beforehand to make it faster

[tranquil stream]

could you use warp mod to warp out of industrial so you only entering it?

[verbal mural]

entering it 5 times and starving in industrial for hextuple spawns

[tranquil stream]

YES

[balmy falcon]

someone do that right now

[verbal mural]

you could try it

[distant kestrel]

you can use warp to enter over and over for however many spawns you want

[balmy falcon]

oh my god

[verbal mural]

oh yeah lol

[tranquil stream]

wow

[balmy falcon]

i might actually get warp mod just for this that would be so funny

[distant kestrel]

10x spawns

shaded citadel:

[verbal mural]

25 monster kelps and pole plants in the same area

hundreds of noot babies

[balmy falcon]

how would that work though? does warp mod reset gate usage?

[austere schooner]

i think there’s a mod to multiply spawns which is probably easier

[balmy falcon]

that's not as fun though

[austere schooner]

i mean is clicking the same 4 buttons in warp mod 10 times fun

[distant kestrel]

10 times as fun

[balmy falcon]

fair enough i guess

[verbal mural]

top level scoreruns in 10 years when the meta becomes triple outskirts, quad industrial, and triple cc

[rotund latch]

higuys whats the path for visions 😁

[balmy falcon]

the one i used was CC > IC > OS > DS

with a death flower in CC

i think that's the most popular path anyhow

[rotund latch]

what if im a MENACE to society and go DS > OS > IC > CC instead

[balmy falcon]

i mean you can try

generally easier to go down than up though

[distant kestrel]

do it

you have my support

make it more fun to watch for the verifiers

[balmy falcon]

that is true

i tried starting in SC but turns out that's a very bad route