Server Challenge Submissions

[distant kestrel]

lizards man

overvalued

[tranquil stream]

I got into cc from si with grub already and starved in that one shelter

[south mural]

okay maybe 50 isnt that much

[distant kestrel]

it's not!!

[tranquil stream]

So it was free and easy

[distant kestrel]

you also get 10 points every time you rest and a point for every pip of food you eat

so even more leniency there

this is the kinda cycle I'd expect from like, a 20k run lol

[south mural]

btw is it possible to doublespawn CC if you already were there before? Currently in HI

[distant kestrel]

maybe 30 if it was all passages

if you entered the region before and saved over that cycle you can't double it now

it needs to be on the very first cycle you visit it

[south mural]

what are some good areas to doublespawn tho? slept in SI, CC and HI already

like GW or LF or SB?

[distant kestrel]

outskirts industrial and cc are your bread and butter for double spawns

outskirts and cc have some of the best creature density and are centered on the map

[south mural]

went in SU already bruh

[distant kestrel]

industrial is alright but it connects them both so it makes it a lot more valuable

if you go to sub early doubling it might be good, it has a ton of stuff

but I dunno I've never done hunting there

[south mural]

so am I just unable to properly doublespawn anything in this run?

[distant kestrel]

seems like it

[south mural]

damn

is GW anything good?

[distant kestrel]

you don't wanna spend any time you don't have to in regions other than SU and CC lol

SI is alright, about on par with industrial, but the terrain makes fighting difficult and it's also on a corner of the map

GW is not great

bad terrain too

[south mural]

SB?

[distant kestrel]

.

good creature density but you don't really wanna go there before the end of the run

[south mural]

oh i read it as Suburban for some reason

[distant kestrel]

lol

I'd be so down to like triple spawn random regions and go for big single cycles

but for a full run anything other than those 3 regions are pretty mid

[south mural]

dont you need to enter that region twice for triplespawns? It seems borderline impossible for SB

[distant kestrel]

maybe enter from farms and go ds gw sl sb

if sh-hi-cc-si-lf-su-hi-gw is possible in one cycle then this should be too

[balmy falcon]

how do you even triple spawn??

[distant kestrel]

entering a region for the first time and starving in it adds another layer of spawns

another thing that does that is entering it twice on the cycle you first entered

so you stack both of these

3x

[balmy falcon]

.......... wild

[distant kestrel]

quad spawns should also be a thing but there's no region with 5 gates to enable that, at least in the base game

[south mural]

Just a quick question: do you keep your doublespawns if you echoed directly after starving?

[distant kestrel]

if you saved over the double spawns
(spawns doubled > save > echo)
then yeah

(spawns doubled (with a starve) > echo) doesn't save them

[balmy falcon]

i was thinking about doing this route earlier, glad to see it's viable

[azure current]

i threw a spear at a blue lizard right as it opened its mouth and it froze my game

[balmy falcon]

game said no mouthspear for you

[azure current]

😔

i think it's because the lizard was going to steal my spear but right as it tried to i threw the spear

and the game had a stroke because of that

[balmy falcon]

ex i am praying for your journey submission

[tranquil stream]

Mouthspeared the game itself

Impressive much

[balmy falcon]

possibly

[azure current]

i'm just too good

i mouthspeared the whole game

[tranquil stream]

And I have devotee coming shortly after that

[balmy falcon]

literally half a month on the sheet

i would offer to help verify shit if i were able to take on more responsibilities

[distant kestrel]

adds more challenges into the queue as opposed to verifying them like a boss

[balmy falcon]

instead of fixing the issue, simply make it worse

[distant kestrel]

it'll be a banger submission though

[balmy falcon]

how many verifiers are there anyway seriously this is such a massive backlog

[distant kestrel]

like 6 I think

[balmy falcon]

oof

[azure current]

holy shit

[distant kestrel]

I've been meaning to get back on the job but it's been hard this week

[balmy falcon]

yeah i mean there's no real rush

[tranquil stream]

What a hard time to be a verifier

No pressure

[balmy falcon]

yeah no genuinely, no pressure

[distant kestrel]

you guys wanna do my work for me

[balmy falcon]

i would legitimately consider applying ngl

[distant kestrel]

I mean my homework btw I wanna watch challenge videos

[balmy falcon]

but again, should probably not take on more responsibilities

what kind of homework

[tranquil stream]

I could review every descension submission

[distant kestrel]

uhhhhmmmm

research into making a neat infographic

[balmy falcon]

i ask as if i'm not struggling to study for my neurobio midterm

[distant kestrel]

also it's in spanish

hope that's not a problem

[balmy falcon]

i have Very Rudimentary spanish understanding

i am nosy though. what's the infographic on?

[azure current]

i understand spanish but i can not speak or write in spanish

[distant kestrel]

I bestow upon you the homework helper role

[balmy falcon]

[azure current]

[tranquil stream]

[distant kestrel]

now get to work

it's due today

[distant kestrel]

CAD/CAM software examples and aspects about them

advantages, disadvantages, costs, tools they provide

[balmy falcon]

okay i have absolutely no idea what that is computer science major?

[distant kestrel]

that's right

I'm a nerd

[balmy falcon]

[dense geode]

i think it just got verified lmao

your journey one

[short rover]

this isnt valid because msc is enabled sorry 3:

also yeah i just verified your journey one :3

[empty matrix]

actually more slug cats was disabled
only mod i used was camera scroll :3

[tranquil stream]

[empty matrix]

oh wait no sorry i made another run i thought you replied to the other run my bad

[empty matrix]

yeah this run had msc enabled :3

[quiet pilot]

[empty matrix]

[quiet pilot]

(Camera scroll is also… not permitted)

[empty matrix]

....what

[empty matrix]

how does...
how does it change the GamePlay drastically ?
it just makes the camera smoother

[short rover]

it gives a noticeable advantage

[empty matrix]

what is the "blood" mod ?

[short rover]

idk blood

but yeah cherif sorry but the challenge is invalid because use of camera scroll 3:

[dense geode]

the vanilla intended way to play was with the static camera transitions. having camera scroll essentially does what screen peak does. it allows you to peak into the next screen (in a sense)

[empty matrix]

welp
it's fine
i guess I'll do it again
for the 5th time
(i failed 2 times)

[dense geode]

at least thats what i think

youd get a better answer asking staff tho

[short rover]

thats about right

[empty matrix]

funny how i failed one because i didn't know that i accidentally killed a pole plant

[dense geode]

if you can do it once, you can do it again. i believe in you

also i feel ya, i had to do pilgrimage lineage 3 times (no i wont let this go)

[quiet pilot]

Hey would you like to read the spreadsheet? It tells you the rules and what’s permitted. I’m really sorry

[empty matrix]

ohhhhhh
now i understand
that makes sense

it's my fault really
i should have read this spreadsheet first before doing it

[quiet pilot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bpSvW-C94rQo_TKM0MxBt4uYtQLhGm7FXGE_Do8Zprw/edit (here it is @empty matrix )

[dense geode]

happens to the best of us dw

sometimes memory goes

[azure current]

i always double check before playing out of fear of this happening

[empty matrix]

the new run i made was incredibly smooth tho
too bad i didn't know camera scroll wasn't allowed

[balmy falcon]

i think by default just turn all mods off unless you know it's Strictly cosmetic, like dms

but the sheet has guidelines

[azure current]

i only use sunhat input display or dms instead of sunhat

[balmy falcon]

most of my dms stuff has been iterator skins, because it's funny

i used sunhat once though

[dense geode]

mfw they create the most abhorrent slugcat known to mankind and force the staff to stare at it for verification over an ascension run

[balmy falcon]

[azure current]

lmaoo

[tranquil stream]

ballcat

[balmy falcon]

god yeah that's a thing now

[azure current]

i prefer using sunhat over dms i only use it for more joke stuff

[dense geode]

ballscat

[balmy falcon]

yeah i did journey with a pebbles skin on

you can't tell me it's not objectively hilarious to have pebbles fucking book it to depths

[dense geode]

i use it for scavcat

[azure current]

i should use ballcat in a challenge one day

[tranquil stream]

crawling pebbles still haunts me

[balmy falcon]

good

[tranquil stream]

[azure current]

scavcat is a dorable but i still kinda prefer sunhat

i use the pebbles skin for martyr

[dense geode]

and im quite proud of it

[tranquil stream]

angy

[balmy falcon]

you still look so angry in that and i love it

[empty matrix]

wait a minute
do i have to do a video everytime i beat a challenge or a screenshot is enough ?

[balmy falcon]

i used moon

[tranquil stream]

depends on the challenge you do

[balmy falcon]

the challenge will specify

some need videos, others only need screenshots

[empty matrix]

so Pacific hunter needs a video or a screenshot alone should do ?

[balmy falcon]

yeah Saint only requires the end game score screen

[azure current]

yeah

[dense geode]

he's just blinking i swear :depsair:

[balmy falcon]

[empty matrix]

I'm asking this because my laptop (which is where i play the game) really is slow
it's so slow I can't even take screenshots without the game crashing and i have to use my phone camera instead

[dense geode]

but true, he does look angy

[distant kestrel]

Squinty

[balmy falcon]

oop

[dense geode]

he got fed up with lineage

[balmy falcon]

i mean you could record your final cycle and crop it out from that...?

i don't think recording your entire saint run is a good idea

[distant kestrel]

You're the one who chose to lineage a red for friend

[dense geode]

I DIDNT KNOW OKAY

[empty matrix]

it barely can take screenshots
i don't think it can take even the smallest video

4gb of ram laptop moment

[dense geode]

i got gwyn to change the rules on the friend to specify that it could be any scug now tho

so hopefully others dont misunderstand it like i did now

[balmy falcon]

oh yeah that is much more clear

[tranquil stream]

say hello to Bernard

[dense geode]

hello Bernard, this is Mr Moody

i hope you have a good hang on Bernard's leash

[tranquil stream]

hello, Mr. Moody!

[balmy falcon]

i don't think a leash will do much

you're not the one leashing your lizard, it is leashing you

[dense geode]

thats true for reds

[tranquil stream]

yeah... about that

[balmy falcon]

[dense geode]

cyans on a leash would just be dragging you around while they do the equivalent of this

over and over

[balmy falcon]

YEP

i love that video

[balmy falcon]

is four mouthspears all it takes to take down a red?

or i guess four of either crouchspears or slidespears

cause sometimes i fuck up, but two slidespears after two crouchspears still kills the red

... wow thanks

definitely getting more consistent with it though

[lucid agate]

i forgot to submit this last night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_DKRXjkhcA&ab_channel=Muggywort

sorry to the challenge helpers for submitting so many,,,, i joined this server a couple days ago just to do challenges

[balmy falcon]

i'm probably getting it around 60% of the time now?

when i have more time i'm probably going to try foe

once my ascension submission is verified

[brazen mesa]

So i am doing the "safari challenge, but i do have to know before i record anything

Can my slug be super crazy looking as long as it's only done with DMS?

I do have a picture of the slug if you want it

[balmy falcon]

yeah dms is fine you should be fine if it's just dms and skins that require dms

[brazen mesa]

I know DMS is fine (i used it during the tasty run i did) i just want to know if what i have done is alright

[balmy falcon]

what else do you have?

[brazen mesa]

Mod wise or the slug

[dense geode]

dont worry, its backed up heavily rn

though, if you have a certain role color you want, they tend to verify those so people get the colors they want sooner

[balmy falcon]

yeah like what mods do you have

[brazen mesa]

Just remix (with the allowed settings), DMS, and UwU mod

[dense geode]

as for this, i believe anything dms is allowed, i made sure with gwyn first tho so i can confirm for a fact scav and lizard cat are allowed

[balmy falcon]

yeah

uwu mod is fine

[brazen mesa]

I would hope UwU is fine, i had it on for the tasty role

[balmy falcon]

you can check the sheet to see which mods are okay

uwu mod is one of them

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bpSvW-C94rQo_TKM0MxBt4uYtQLhGm7FXGE_Do8Zprw/edit#gid=0

in case you don't have it yet

[brazen mesa]

(i checked and i have the tasty role)

[balmy falcon]

tasty is a nice pink shade tbh

[brazen mesa]

Yeah before this i had feast

[valid stone]

pop

decode this:

onmkluf

[brazen mesa]

Monkful

[valid stone]

lets go

your smart

monkful

[thin nacelle]

4 hours of navigator attempts later I have decided that I hate scavengers

[valid stone]

Lol

[austere schooner]

the rule for consistency is doing it x times in a row

[balmy falcon]

yeah i just did 100 rounds

stopped cause my wrist started hurting

[balmy falcon]

[valid stone]

Lol

[distant kestrel]

oh shoot nice banbs

what a character development

next i'll teach you how to score run

[valid stone]

Me too?

[balmy falcon]

i mean i already tried once but you might as well at this point

[distant kestrel]

you will get the 50000 points I never could

I'm down to like help u out if you do wanna go for big points though just let me know

[balmy falcon]

oooh okay not that serious about it yet but i'm definitely going to try outlaw again

[distant kestrel]

the more runners the better,, the practice is kind of neglected

what's your best?

[balmy falcon]

6.6k

from my last outlaw attempt

i should've gotten chieftain it would've pushed it over 8k if i had

[azure current]

i have no idea how to start on outlaw but i'm doing it someday

[valid stone]

Yea

[balmy falcon]

it's really just the Kill Everything That Moves challenge

but also making time to get passages

[valid stone]

Im doing 100% run with spearmaster and I already have 3 passages

And close to getting 3 more

[dense geode]

timby when will you be releasing your outlaw cycle by cycle guide

[lucid agate]

just watched the salamander i was trying to tame get blown up by scavs

[balmy falcon]

[dense geode]

[valid stone]

Yay

[austere schooner]

timby i volunteer to be taught scorerunning

outskirts

[stone sable]

Just got all the vanilla achievements

[distant kestrel]

GG

[lucid agate]

YIPPEE CONGRATS

[valid stone]

Amazing

[lucid agate]

during my (ongoing) friend run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6CcptRzKcU&ab_channel=Moorhen

[valid stone]

Cool!

[lucid agate]

2 more left!

why is the salamander there twice

[distant kestrel]

I like how the salamander starts dancing

[lucid agate]

hmm where's the best place to tame black lizards??

[quiet pilot]

Shaded. Lots of mice ^^

[lucid agate]

ohh right!! ty

i forgot they spawned there somehow

[dense geode]

@distant kestrel (sorry for ping)
I have a few questions regarding outlaw:

Ive watched turtles vid on their points run, how exactly does the strat they used for the monk/saint passage work? I just need to grab the echo after eating a popcorn plant/fruit and then starve? Does that mean i need to get 5 echoes in a row in order to get both saint and monk? is it even worth trying to get?

Which passages should i be focusing on? you said chieftain but later on so they dont become an annoyance. is wonderer worth attempting to nab as well?

Which regions are the best for points? i assume chimney is good for vulture farming, and industrial since it can be triple spawned. is it worth trying to triple spawn a region to begin with or is double spawning better in the long run (as in no wasted time)

[austere schooner]

you don’t need saint/monk at all to get the outlaw challenge, you shouldn’t need to double spawns either

[dense geode]

but wouldnt double spawns help with points

[austere schooner]

outskirts/industrial/chimney are generally the best for points, cycling between those gives you lots of spawns

it would but it’s also more dangerous

[dense geode]

hmm

i guess maybe ill double spawn chimney for vultures and abuse the echo pacifying (cause im lame)

but leave outskirts alone. 4 red lizards doesnt sound like a fun time

[austere schooner]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/385548182102212608/1077504674804019221/image.png

here’s my outlaw run, i didn’t double spawns at all or do any vulture cheese

without wanderer it still would’ve been safely above 8k

[dense geode]

howd you get scholar?

isnt that for reading 3 pearls

[austere schooner]

no, just touching them after you meet pebbles

[dense geode]

well thats a free passage then

[austere schooner]

(for hunter)

[dense geode]

ive also been told to ignore moon

cause shoreline sucks for points

[austere schooner]

yea

[dense geode]

near the end of my run ill nab the shelter past the gw gate then to get the pip

but its basically just a literal kill everything run

[austere schooner]

shaded may be safer

yea

do you know the strat to get a mask on the first cycle?

[dense geode]

yes i do

[austere schooner]

you’ll be alright then

[dense geode]

get teh grub, go back, fight it

then move on

[austere schooner]

if you’re going into outskirts first don’t forget to toll abuse

[dense geode]

you mean steal the pearls adn give it to them?

from their storeroom before the toll?

[austere schooner]

paying a toll gives +20 local rep and +15 global, it repeats that bonus every time you give them something after paying

so giving them a couple extra spears after the pearl can save you from getting demolished by a scav later

[distant kestrel]

with no deaths you'd have to get 6 echoes in a row since the first cycle never progresses saint and monk

if you happen to die one of two things happen

if you died after the starve you end up with +0.5 and if you die before you end up with -0.5

[austere schooner]

(technically it progresses but you don’t see progress on those until over a cycle of progress)

[distant kestrel]

yea you don't get to see that

so it might as well not exist!

they're pretty hard

[dense geode]

so it becomes a knock off devotee challenge

[distant kestrel]

tbh if you really wanna learn them

I'd pass on saint

devotee except you can take a stop by the middle and you can't defend yourself at all if you do saint

[dense geode]

i think ill pass on doing that strat in that case

[distant kestrel]

also you suffer the consequences of your actions (doubled spawn region traversal)

[dense geode]

im not that confident in my ability to get all 6 without dying. i may be confident, but not that much

[distant kestrel]

I don't care at all about pings btw

drop one whenever you wanna tell me something

[dense geode]

its curtesy

[distant kestrel]

yeah I wouldn't put money on getting all 6 flawlessly either

usually you end up with a few pre and post starve deaths so it balances out

if you get all 6 and still don't quite finish I think you're allowed to take a pity cache

[dense geode]

wdym

[distant kestrel]

say you did everything perfectly but you died once pre starve

you're stuck at 4.5/5

you'd have to burn a cycle

people would be ok with a cache in that case, apparently

I've never had it happen to me

[dense geode]

odd, but interesting

id be okay with that. they did the hard part perfectly tbf

be shitty to say "nah" cause of a silly death

[distant kestrel]

you get punished or rewarded for dying

it's so wack

[dense geode]

so basically, to sum up, i should just wing it and murder spree everything to the best i can

while trying to get about 5-7 passages?

[distant kestrel]

that usually gets the job done

ideally you get the 6 easy ones

maybe you feel spicy and wanna do friend or wanderer

or monk!

[dense geode]

chef, dragon, survivor, outlaw, hunter, and sholar?

[distant kestrel]

🧑‍🍳

yeah those are the easy ones

[dense geode]

got it

well, ill give it a shot in a bit. i gotta finish some school shit but i can let you know how it goes (probably not well )

[distant kestrel]

I believe in u

orange deer hater

[dense geode]

that is me

[valid stone]

I kill

[verbal mural]

cries in thousand hours of this game and only gotten them deathless twice

[distant kestrel]

woe

dropwig be upon ye

or a really bad centipede

[lucid agate]

it has been done

[short rover]

Insane liz rizz

How did you get the blue and pink liz to not attack each other though?

[lucid agate]

they just didnt?? im not sure what blue and pinks relationships are but i definitely didnt have friends of friends on (i made sure to check bc i wondered too)

[balmy falcon]

they always fight

they were probably just far enough apart to not start squabbling

everything also jumps at the opportunity to bully blues, so

it's a very nice shot

very cute

[lucid agate]

im a lil worried it'll get invalidated now oh no

[short rover]

Okay, that's good. Even if you had the mod you probably would've been verified?

[balmy falcon]

nah you are close enough that they'd both try to eat you if they weren't tamed

[short rover]

I don't think it will be invalidated

You're fine

[lucid agate]

ah alright!!

[short rover]

If it does get invalidated, just retame the pink and blue

[balmy falcon]

yeah

[short rover]

It is very quick to do after all

[lucid agate]

thats true!

think im gonna do leukocyte next but not tonight

[balmy falcon]

leukocyte sounds kind of fun honestly

silly fun

[dense geode]

its pretty funny

[dense geode]

@distant kestrel i see now why you said get chieftain last. they will not leave me alone

[dark crown]

This scav looks pretty cool in the screenshot

[toxic basin]

stop disappearing

[tight bone]

passages

[proven shadow]

navigator is frustratingly close to my limits

3 attempts in a row where rain got me 2 rooms or less away from the last gate

i bet i will get it the moment i clean up shaded movement

the smart play would be to get a neuron and not have to learn every bump in the terrain, but we don't do smart things here

[tranquil stream]

are you going "classic" route or some kind of torture obstacle course?

[proven shadow]

idk if this is standard or not

seems to be the most optimal route

if you mean the shaded route, i do the standard speedrun path because why reinvent the wheel

[tranquil stream]

I see most people go through drainage

[proven shadow]

weird

[tranquil stream]

I did too and found it reliable

[proven shadow]

wait, hold on

how are you integrating drainage into the route

[tranquil stream]

HI-SU-DS-GW-HI

[proven shadow]

yeah, but what then

you have to enter 2 gates, but either one locks you out of industrial

[tranquil stream]

start from CC end in SH

and do this route

[proven shadow]

so you're saying CC-HI-SU-DS-GW-HI-SH?

[tranquil stream]

yeah

[proven shadow]

that seems psychotic, but you're saying everyone's doing it

maybe it actually is faster

i'll still try my path a few more times, because conforming to the norm is uncool

it seems doable

i just need to play better

[tranquil stream]

I'm curious about your route tho

2 screens doesn't seem much

[proven shadow]

2 screens of what

[tranquil stream]

oh

2 rooms I mean

that's probably more than 2 screens

[proven shadow]

I STILL have no idea what you are talking about

what 2 rooms

where

[quiet pilot]

Before the gate? Like you said above

[tranquil stream]

away from last gate

[proven shadow]

oh

i forgot about it

[tranquil stream]

that's close

[proven shadow]

lmao

[tranquil stream]

[proven shadow]

but now that i'm looking at it, the challenge says "and sleep"

so i wasn't actually close at all

[quiet pilot]

Have you included some food somewhere in your route? ^^

[proven shadow]

i don't know if that matters

if it does, there's plenty on the way

just enter a gate with a snack

[tranquil stream]

pre sh-sl gate

yeah

free food

[proven shadow]

time efficient food

[quiet pilot]

Yeah, I went with a grub from CC and ate it in the gate

[proven shadow]

i ate the grubs to sleep there

anyway, imma go try the drainage route now

[quiet pilot]

Good luck!! Should hopefully be easier!

[tranquil stream]

good luck gamer

[proven shadow]

anyway, i wonder how they decide what challenges to verify

i'm still waiting on my , over a week ago

[quiet pilot]

I think there’s a preference for people changing their role colour, and people who have submitted less challenges

[proven shadow]

both are me

so idk

[quiet pilot]

I mean, you said you were waiting on so that’s 20 submissions

[proven shadow]

17 out of which are verified

many of them months ago

[frank quail]

heyo sorry to barge in this coversation, but does anyone know how to do the fast-fall thing for descension?

[quiet pilot]

Maybe I should’ve phrased it as, people who haven’t submitted a challenge before or don’t currently have a role colour. But only the verifiers know ^^

[proven shadow]

https://rwtechwiki.github.io/docs/movement/crawlturnfastfall/

like this

[frank quail]

yeah it's that

[tranquil stream]

relatable... My ascension is almost 2 weeks old

but at least one of my submissions have been verified yesterday so I'm not complaining

[proven shadow]

your usurper is actually 2 weeks old

they grow up so fast...

[tranquil stream]

yeah but ascension is that gives me ascended

and here is another devotee from me

poor helpers

[proven shadow]

i would honestly love to help with the challenge approval

have a whole bunch of free time anyway

[tranquil stream]

I could do it too I think

[proven shadow]

just don't know how to apply for it

[tranquil stream]

it is getting out of hand

[quiet pilot]

Yeah, it would be cool to help!

[tranquil stream]

even 1-2 challenges per day would be significant

[proven shadow]

what kills me especially is that most of those submissions are pictures or super short videos

you can bang out like 20 of those in a row

[tranquil stream]

that gets tedious fast I suppose

[proven shadow]

such is the task

[tranquil stream]

it's like having your hobby become a work

[proven shadow]

tbf if you're concerned with that you shouldn't be a moderator in the first place

because that's actual job territory

it's not gonna be particularly fun and varied

[tranquil stream]

yes and no

there is a reason why they are called helpers and not employees

[proven shadow]

sure

but like

"oh no, i have to look at 5 chieftain submission pictures a month, i can't handle this"

seems a bit silly, is all i'm saying

i get it with the longform ones

like ascension, that one can be a bit of a problem if people keep submitting it

[tranquil stream]

I don't see that the real case

it was more of explanation from me on why they can't jump on submissions and verify like 20 a day each

[proven shadow]

true

[tranquil stream]

and people have to live their lives too

[proven shadow]

20 a day was a big number, but if it's those short vid/screenshot challenges, you can verify them at like one a minute

and yet the entire helper/staff team combined verifies like 3 a day

i don't know how many people are involved, but i'm assuming it's at least 5

group projects in a nutshell, is what i'm saying

[tranquil stream]

there are 6 i've heard

[distant kestrel]

Yes they're horrible

[lucid agate]

would garbage wastes be the best place to do feast?

[quiet pilot]

Yeah there’s a really good spot with a shelter and centipedes that lineage well nearby ^^

[lucid agate]

yee im looking at the map but i thought id ask!! thank you!

[quiet pilot]

There’s also WILD’s save files which you can use for Feast, which put you there with some spears and a few sporepuffs ^^

[balmy falcon]

yeah i think everyone used the one room in GW

oh i didn't realize the spore puffs were in that save

i just ran over to farm arrays real quick

[quiet pilot]

Oh for sure, if you’re not using the save file grabbing them from Farm Arrays is very sensible and makes the red a lot easier

[short rover]

Congrats on ascended btw

Also, don't you have to screenshot each lineage stage of the centi for feast?

So you can't use a save file from someone else

[balmy falcon]

you do yeah

you just grab the puffs before lineaging

[quiet pilot]

Aww thank you!! The new challenges I did got verified before my Usurper and Devotee, so here I am

[quiet pilot]

Oh the save file doesn’t have it at the red stage!

[short rover]

LOL

Oh, that's great actually

I thought it was

Exanimoso also has ascended

But it takes a while to get verified lol

[balmy falcon]

still waitin for my champions badge

[short rover]

I've only done three so far

[balmy falcon]

but with only six verifiers and that horrific backlog i'm not fussed about it

[short rover]

Currently doing a downpour challenge now

[balmy falcon]

[short rover]

I think they should always prioritize people far back

[balmy falcon]

ideally yeah, but i'm not even the furthest back on the list

ex's journey challenge got verified recently, but the next last one is still from two weeks ago

[lucid agate]

oh i have no idea how to use saves

[balmy falcon]

in theory it would be locating your save folder and dropping the relevant save in

but in practice i've never done it either

[quiet pilot]

Oh it’s pretty simple! You can just 1) go into your Videocult folder and copy and remove your current stuff (making sure all your relevant mods are off) 2) paste those files somewhere safe 3) copy and paste in the other save file 4) boot up the game and then modify your remix and option settings to match what’s needed for the challenge, and there you go ^^

Forgot to @ oops so this doesn’t get buried at some point @lucid agate

I remove my files so it doesn’t get messed up somehow or overwritten

[lucid agate]

oh man i am not knowledgeable to use this so i might just grab the stuff manually
thank you though!!

[quiet pilot]

Np, good luck with Feast! ^^

[balmy falcon]

luckily it'll be pretty easy to dip into FA as monk

the hard part is not getting chieftain

[lucid agate]

the horror

[balmy falcon]

they stole my kill once

before i got my successful kill

honestly still baffled at how they appeared at the perfect time to do that

[distant kestrel]

bad navigator complete

finally

[balmy falcon]

[distant kestrel]

just had to hitlike 7 eijumps

[tranquil stream]

[azure current]

timby i wanted to ask
how exactly does double spawning work?

[tranquil stream]

pin it as example submission for the challenge when done uploading

[balmy falcon]

[distant kestrel]

the game doesn't load spawns properly when you starve the first time you enter it or enter it for the first time twice in one cycle

so it adds another spawn layer to the region

ie = every single creature den will spawn an extra creature

effectively double spawns

doesn't dupe stuff like guardians and hazers since they don't come from dens

[azure current]

thanks

[distant kestrel]

so yeah, if you combine both of these

you end up with 2 extra layers

3x spawns as opposed to 4x

[balmy falcon]

... wait does that mean navigator would produce some god awful spawns the next cycle

[distant kestrel]

If I entered shaded from like shoreline or something

yeah,

[balmy falcon]

i want to see the result

[distant kestrel]

I'd have a 2x industrial

[tranquil stream]

if you decide to starve in industrial and fail the challenge

[distant kestrel]

you don't starve in it though so no triples

:C

[balmy falcon]

drat

[distant kestrel]

new meta

triple industrial with this route

[balmy falcon]

well i mean i read this and thought this applies for Every Gate you pass

[distant kestrel]

it only took 200 attempts

[balmy falcon]

of which you pass four

for navigator

[tranquil stream]

every gate you pass into industrial

[distant kestrel]

yes

so you need 5 gates for 3x with no starve and 4x with a starve

[balmy falcon]

i want to see quintuple spawned industrial

[distant kestrel]

not possible!!

[balmy falcon]

[tranquil stream]

just warp out lol

[distant kestrel]

if you install some modded regions you could probably get 5x shoreline

[balmy falcon]

i'm very tempted to devtool around with downpour enabled just to see whatever cursed hell this will produce

oh boy

[distant kestrel]

since everyone wants to connect their regions to shoreline

I'm so pumped haha

what a challenge

[azure current]

5x spawns anything would be absolute hell

[balmy falcon]

but it would be funny

[dense geode]

[distant kestrel]

hi tannyn

[azure current]

true

[distant kestrel]

I beat the god awful navigator route

[dense geode]

ello

[dense geode]

lfg, how many attempts

also did you take the chimney route?

[distant kestrel]

like 200

yea

it's hard

I made it with a pip to spare

and while I did choke here and there

I'd like to think my movement was solid

[dense geode]

thsi does not bode well for me

[distant kestrel]

I dunno if this is possible without the hunter move speed

so you have to deal with awful spawns too

[dense geode]

probably if its done by some wr holders

still, congrats

[distant kestrel]

ty

orange names stay winning

[proven shadow]

the mention of hunter was kinda eye opening for me

gonna try it with hunter now

maybe it'll be better

with a mask, ofc

i mean the base challenge though, not the extra weird stuff

[tranquil stream]

hunter is allowed?

[proven shadow]

i just really don't like the drainage route

if i can go through shoreline instead, life will be better

[proven shadow]

slugcat is not mentioned, so it should be allowed

[dense geode]

i think timby was campaigning to the mods to allow it

or at least thats last i heard

[distant kestrel]

I pushed for hunter to be allowed

I'm like

Your hero

[proven shadow]

it's definitely enough of a tradeoff that it doesn't feel too busted

more dangerous path vs drainage path

[distant kestrel]

25% move speed at the cost of god awful spawns

Big centipedes and dropwigs can really hurt

[tranquil stream]

why journey is survivor only tho?

is this intentional or just some legacy ruling?

[proven shadow]

where would the big centipedes be, if i'm avoiding drainage

[lucid agate]

i havent done anything in monk in so long i forgot how unpopulated it is

[distant kestrel]

Well for my route they were problematic in farm arrays and outskirts

They act as barriers

[proven shadow]

oh, THAT route

sounds messed up

[distant kestrel]

And I don't have time to deal with them lol

[dense geode]

the one room in outskirts where the dev made a centipede rave pit:

[proven shadow]

good thing the shelter is the other way

[dense geode]

yea, but those centis can wonder

[proven shadow]

what are they wondering about

[quiet pilot]

but with jokes?

[proven shadow]

big humor is watching you

also, why does that emote even exist

[quiet pilot]

[proven shadow]

that's so specific

[dense geode]

because its the discord meme that any rules is 1984

or any restrictions at all

[dense geode]

also they are wondering why so many slugcats are throwing themselves at them as they enter their shelter to sleep

[proven shadow]

why did i think hunter navigator was such a good idea

it didn't even save time

[distant kestrel]

[rotund latch]

it's been 3 days and my feast & tasty are yet to be verified 😔

[tranquil stream]

do we tell em?

[dense geode]

i think they'll figure it out soon

[distant kestrel]

things are a bit slow at the moment

[azure current]

yeah...

[dense geode]

hopefully challenge helper apps open soon

[lucid agate]

i keep getting medium sized centipedes and then getting tiny ones again <//3

game so mean 2 me

[fair cape]

One more day till my journey submission hits two weeks with no verification

[dense geode]

Welcome to lineage

[tranquil stream]

there are 3 spawns one of them is lineageable

if you've seen larger centi you are making progress

[lucid agate]

ive seen about 3 now

[tranquil stream]

keep killing the large one

little ones matter only as food

[distant kestrel]

You can do tasty with the little ones

Double challenge clear

[lucid agate]

i already did tasty!

[dense geode]

Feast?

[lucid agate]

yee

[distant kestrel]

do it again

call it delectable

[lucid agate]

yippee i got an overgrown

wow overgrowns are cowards

[distant kestrel]

they're scary af

they tank like 8 spears and instakill you still

[short rover]

Didn't you say red centis are not scary?

[distant kestrel]

yeah they aren't

overgrowns are though

[short rover]

Are there actually any difference?

[lucid agate]

does making them retreat into their dens still count towards lineage?

[distant kestrel]

yeah, they have a very high stun resistance

no it doesn't

at least I don't think it does

[lucid agate]

shit

[distant kestrel]

before letting that happen was an insta lose

[short rover]

Put a bunch of spears close to where the centi is

And spam

[distant kestrel]

red centipedes get stunned on any hit to an exposed segment whereas overgrowns can take like 3 or 4 hunter spears and not falter

[short rover]

Does stun depend on damage?

Like monster kelp for example

[distant kestrel]

I think damage does play into it

but I don't know all the specifics

I know different sources of stuns have different multipliers and stuff

the farther away from max hp a creature is the more vulnerable it is to being stunned

so in that way damage does play a role

[lucid agate]

i got another small centipede after it retreated so maybe it does?

[dense geode]

it does not

[lucid agate]

i was in the middle of beating up an overgrown and a scav jumped in and stole all my spears so i died

how nice

thanks dude

[distant kestrel]

Yeah they do that

[frank quail]

descend yourself
https://youtu.be/n4cv1Vysxww

[short rover]

[dense geode]

@distant kestrel i did it, but its invalid cause i fucked up near the end (i karma cached on cycle 2 to see if id need to improve my strats or not)

so half yay

but also

[verbal mural]

still a good score nonetheless, those karma caches only make up 84 points

wait you said cycle 2 not 2 karma caches

42 points per cache

[dense geode]

Well

I only karma cached cause I was in drainage on cycle 2, had four karma, anddddd died to a black lizard

I kinda just wanted to see my score

But yeah, invalid lmao

[coral nimbus]

You can still karma cache in DP?
Its a vanilla exploits option im guessing

[dense geode]

for outlaw karma caching is off

or its not allowed

[distant kestrel]

Oh hey not bad

You can defo do it

Also yeah karma cache is still in the game you just need vanilla exploits on

[balmy falcon]

nice score though

out of curiosity, why is survivor required for enlightenment? do you get an advantage as monk?

[tranquil stream]

less spawns so less danger

[balmy falcon]

ahhh true yeah

i didn't find the enemy spawns to be an issue personally, but i know CC well so. lol

[tranquil stream]

enlightenment as hunter should be interesting

[balmy falcon]

[tranquil stream]

it is a beginner challenge so

you just got good

[balmy falcon]

CC is my favorite region

[steel compass]

the non-dp hunter leg in question

there's like 15 spitter spiders

[tranquil stream]

definitely not going leg

nope

[balmy falcon]

[steel compass]

that's why all the spitter spiders are gone by survivor, the arriving DLLs ate them

[dense geode]

I never realized it was that awful

What the fuck were they smoking???

[steel compass]

something i want

[tranquil stream]

and some mad man told me that pilgrimage on hunter would be easier because there are no DLLs

[graceful blaze]

Btw. I just wanna add. When I was grinding away for journey. I dreamt 2 nights in a row about how I was doing journey

Thats all

[agile tulip]

aaaAA

ack

[balmy falcon]

OOF

[steel compass]

seems like a bit of a skill issue to me

[sinful swan]

the chieftain

[shell kraken]

Charged submissionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APdEXHsYtAY

[stone sable]

Is there an actual tactic to the chieftan challenge or is it just random

[quiet pilot]

There’s a strat. Bring them to Shoreine/Sub gate room, then cross gate and hibernate ^^

[stone sable]

how would you bring them across though?

[quiet pilot]

They just have to be in the room, because switching the region means they are forced to stay in Shoreline, and their only spawning point is in LttM

So you don’t actually have to convince them to swim over the long stretches of water or anything ^^

[stone sable]

so is there a special way to get them into the gate room or is it by chance? cause I've had them show in LTTM in other campaigns like my Gourmand one

[quiet pilot]

I think maybe they spawn there in MSC campaigns? I’ve had this happen before

But having the Chieftain passage makes them more likely to follow you into the gate room

[agile tulip]

yeah, i think a campaign or two in MSC has natural scavs in looks to the moon

and yeah what they said, really high rep scavs are more likely to make escort parties to follow you, including into gate rooms

[stone sable]

so monk might be the best for that since he has an easier time getting rep

[agile tulip]

ye, no restriction on that

just make sure not to get domed by a spear since an overseer spawned in front of you while a scav party is following you

[balmy falcon]

hunter and gourmand, yes

[balmy falcon]

@tight estuary you can do squid starve flight or get a grapple worm, either is really not that bad

[tight estuary]

Secret thread

[balmy falcon]

grapple worm can be a little jank sometimes, but i really like grapple worms so i didn't mind starve flight is probably easiest

[tight estuary]

Oooh, I thought it had to be like same cycle

[balmy falcon]

naw

[tight estuary]

Yeah that doesn’t sound bad

[balmy falcon]

it's any cycle, and you can set up by getting stuff beforehand

someone speedran it from game start wuss%

[tight estuary]

Lmao

[balmy falcon]

now spearing your way up. that one sucks

kudos to the one person who did that

[tight estuary]

I really gotta do journey, before downpour I was doing runs and I was consistently getting to the end of drainage

[austere schooner]

fastest way is to have a scav come down to near the starting area and steal an explosive spear from it

[balmy falcon]

journey

i really liked journey

good luck with that

[tight estuary]

Honestly I’m only doing it for the nice purple

[balmy falcon]

yeah journey is a nice color

i'm too attached to my enlightenment shade though

say, is anyone using elder?

i do like that foresty green...

oh i suppose not actually since only two people have been verified thus far

[patent turtle]

He's doing his best

[balmy falcon]

why are whites like this

[patent turtle]

A BLUE CAME UP AND TOOK IT LMAOOO

[balmy falcon]

[verbal mural]

rare blue W

standing up to one of their bullies

[balmy falcon]

aw cute profile pic

[patent turtle]

Well I got the blue

[dense geode]

do i need to bring the neuron to pebbles to get "helped pebbles"

[balmy falcon]

yeah

[dense geode]

[balmy falcon]

doing saint?

[dense geode]

no outlaw

[balmy falcon]

huh, aight

[dense geode]

i invalidated my last run

so again i go

[balmy falcon]

aw

oh right cause you karma cached

[dense geode]

yea

the run was dead anyway lmao

[balmy falcon]

i feel like ditching pebbles worked out well for you though

[dense geode]

no i visited him

[balmy falcon]

oh rip

never mind then

[dense geode]

without the nueron tho

[balmy falcon]

f

[dense geode]

oh well

ill carry it

theres a grub in chimney anyway

im gonna double spawn chimney and cheese a lot of vultures

[balmy falcon]

[dense geode]

and get wonderer this time

i missed exterior and sky

[patent turtle]

lizor 4(wouldn't stop camoing)

[balmy falcon]

you one cycled wall? i guess that's not hard but

whites

[dense geode]

wdym

[balmy falcon]

cause you didn't den in exterior

[dense geode]

i see his head

[dense geode]

thats just how i usually do wall tbh

[balmy falcon]

yeah honestly ascension has prepped me to do that lol

[dense geode]

its not worth wasting a cycle midway up if the rain has came

[balmy falcon]

yeah

[dense geode]

but im gonna try and time it where i get up there as the rain comes

more kills, and get the den

[balmy falcon]

[dense geode]

passage progress remains after an echo cycle right?

so in theory, could i starve cycle, kill an orange lizard (for dragon) in sl, and nab the echo to get reverted back to chimney and keep the orange kill?

id rather not go through sky

[balmy falcon]

passages do i think?

oh but kills don't

[dense geode]

thats fine

i just need the orange pip

[balmy falcon]

not sure how that works ngl you should probably ask timby

[dense geode]

i forgor that dp was what made salamanders count. so i couldnt get it last run

[balmy falcon]

downpour just makes it any six lizards

[dense geode]

@distant kestrel what do you think?

[balmy falcon]

which apparently includes salamanders now

vanilla locks it to green, blue, white, yellow, black, and pink

[dense geode]

yeah

which is a pain

[balmy falcon]

my 20 cyan kills should count for dragon slayer smh

[dense geode]

true

wait

im stupid

i could just go and get the orange on cycle 19, and shelter back at the gate

[stone sable]

Did I do this right?

[dense geode]

i think so?

[stone sable]

cause rn im waiting for them to show up in lttm

they show up in the big room right?

[dense geode]

yes

[dense geode]

well im a karma down but i got it

[stone sable]

I think I did everything right then? I got chieftan, brought them into the gate to shorelline

hmm

[dense geode]

i cant help you because i did on complete accident when i did it

but

from what ive heard

my understanding is if they are in the gate room with you as you got through into shoreline. they will go to the shelters in lttm

try sleeping in lttm, and checking

[agile tulip]

it's a random chance for scavs to show up in the big lttm room
the more scavs you load in the gate room the higher the chance they appear

you may have to load more scavs

[dense geode]

how rare is it to get like 3 in there then?

if its chance

lovely

thank you rain deer

[agile tulip]

i would not know, unfortunately im not the scav expert

unrelated, this scav is still haunt me....

im still think about him....

why is he looking????? i dont like him

[stone sable]

aww skrunkly

[distant kestrel]

that would let u keep the pip

this is a strat u don't do in high level play because it conflicts with saint and that one is a lot harder to get

but since you're not going for that it should b fine

[dense geode]

i just went and got it on cycle 18. farm arrays connection is a few rooms from hell tunnel

[distant kestrel]

oh yea

passage progress before survivor

[stone sable]

so they still can even with 2?

also is there a specific place in the big room they come in?

[dense geode]

i just noticed this but what is wrong with hsi head

[balmy falcon]

so long and skinny

[stone sable]

guess im going back to sub

euh

[balmy falcon]

you'll see them trundling along in the big room before moon

i think my successful attempt i got like four into the gate room with me

[stone sable]

Imprisoned

[balmy falcon]

i don't know if getting them to pass with you increases the odds, but i would sure hope so

[dense geode]

i think i did pretty well in a cycle for once

[stone sable]

would hopefully mean I have 4 in total in shoreline now

only thing is I used my last passage

whuh

huh????

[balmy falcon]

iggy went flying

[stone sable]

IGGY LEVITATE???

[balmy falcon]

iggy has ascended

[stone sable]

yall

the scrungly

[dense geode]

[stone sable]

I can now rest easy knowing my shronkly binglies are here

this guy was the og, we are now besties forever

[dense geode]

he looks terrified

[stone sable]

I mean he followed me thru a gate and now he has no idea where he is, i'd be terrified too

[verbal mural]

nice

[stone sable]

So I think you either need 3 or 4 in total to get them to reliably show up

[balmy falcon]

it's more consistent with more of them, yeah

[dense geode]

cool skrinkle

andddddddddd it blew itself up

man, double spawn chimney is uh.. its a place alright

[tranquil stream]

make sure to visit CC_B11 if you didn't yet

[dense geode]

wdym

also cant, im already at the top about to farm vultures

i nabbed the grub thats half way up

[tranquil stream]

this place being double spawned is fun as hell

[cunning glacier]

Mega murder

Mega eating random corpses

[austere schooner]

hunter run with monk passage and no hunter passage

[cunning glacier]

healty diet hunter

doesn't help with the cancer tho

[austere schooner]

need some good void fluid supplements for that

[distant kestrel]

you have becomed [Scoreful]

[cunning glacier]

Also this is the wrong image as I did karma caching at the start and forgot 😔

So i need to find the correct one woops

[dense geode]

i genuinely think this is the first time i have ever used a hazer for its intended purpose

[tranquil stream]

can't see shit

[dense geode]

there's a dropwig on the ceiling, he got trolled

[tranquil stream]

wow so sneaky

[dense geode]

most competent dropwig

[tranquil stream]

I'd fall for it tbh

[dense geode]

ive noticed this one likes to camp that room so i alwasy look out for him

killed a red

[tranquil stream]

why bother with them anyways?

other than flex on us

[dense geode]

got a cheeky explosive spear shot after 2 of them finished fighting

[toxic basin]

now kill every lizard type in one cycle

[steel compass]

I might do foe

Just seems a bit painful

I'll do outlaw first

[dense geode]

well might as well keep it up
I liked this challenge, as it allowed me to play aggressively with hunter as most likely intended by the devs, instead of just speeding through due to the cycle counter pressure. maybe one day ill shoot for one of the x0 clubs, but not till a bit later
6/10

outlaw

[tranquil stream]

10k doors are open

[dense geode]

there's a 10k club?

i thought there wouldnt, it seems a bit too easy to get

[tranquil stream]

I've seen people with that role

[dense geode]

ill ask gwyn for details then

[tranquil stream]

Imagine getting 19k points on the scorerun

[dense geode]

pure agony

[tranquil stream]

that's me

[dense geode]

i couldve gotten the hunter passage if i went to cycle 0

but uh, i didnt feel like taking that risk

[tranquil stream]

"almost 20k club" ™️

[dense geode]

[tranquil stream]

I'll get in there when I decide to make a serious scorerun

like with all cheeky passages

[dense geode]

idk if ill ever grind scorerunning that much

to be able to get all the passages

maybe if i complete all the challenges

but thats far in the future

[tranquil stream]

I feel like I could hit a 30k mark with that much effort

but that is so stressful ngl

[dense geode]

why dont you?

oh that

yep

i was stressed during the one above, mainly cause i was winging it

[tranquil stream]

busy with other things and taking a break after binging on challenges

[dense geode]

the only plan i had was be in drainage by cycle 3

[dense geode]

thats understandable. the challenges take longer than i wouldve thought going into it

(looking at you, stupid lineage challenges)

[tranquil stream]

my plan was to cheese the vultures and then ascend

I remembered that scholar and chieftain passages exist on like cycle 7

after I accidentally got progress by touching HI pearl

[dense geode]

i think if i tried, i could route in friend

trap a green in teh outskirts start shelter lmao

[tranquil stream]

yeah