Server Challenge Submissions

[verbal mural]

visions is like journey but a shorter and slightly different route

[balmy falcon]

visions is just the drug run

10 karma flowers in one cycle

[quiet pilot]

Eat 10 karma flowers in one cycle ^^ it’s an easier route, which has a similar shape to Journey

[balmy falcon]

journey is to book it to depths from essentially the highest point in the game

[shell island]

I do wanna get ascended at one point

But thats 20

[verbal mural]

for starters how is this

too zoomed out or you can get the gist from this?

[shell island]

Brb

Back

Uhhh yeah thats good

[verbal mural]

oh okay

only screenshotted relevant part of industrial

these zoom options are either too much or too little lol

okay im zooming in for this one or it will be illegible

[shell island]

Jeez lmao

[verbal mural]

blue part of the path at the bottom is a pipe you go through

[shell island]

Mmmmm filtration, what an "amazing time"

[balmy falcon]

you can get neuron glow first to make it way easier

by the time you get to FS the mole lizards are all running for their dens tbh

[shell island]

Hmmm wait

Why are there Salamanders, but Eel Lizards, and there are Mole Lizards too

Like why not cut lizard out of those 2

[verbal mural]

mole lizard is just a name given by the community i think

[shell island]

To the wiki!

[verbal mural]

they still have bodies like lizards

[balmy falcon]

moles are also called black lizards, cause... they're black

but yeah

salamanders and eels are slightly different

[shell island]

/j

[balmy falcon]

yeah well

you see why people may prefer calling them mole lizards, no?

[steel compass]

From the clips I've seen the hard part of mother seems to be making the jumps up to those two eggs all the way at rhe top

[quiet pilot]

https://youtu.be/ATRXd8j2fqM

[balmy falcon]

i love seeing these thumbnails

[shell island]

Breaking News: Adult Noodlefly kidnaps 14 children

[quiet pilot]

I was very lucky to have a squidcada stand exactly where I needed them, and no cyans in the top room

[rotund latch]

same

[final wagon]

I hate myself

[shell island]

Wuh

I dont get it

[quiet pilot]

he left the neurons on the other side of the gate ;-; so he'll have to quit the cycle

[shell island]

Oh the neurons

[final wagon]

AHHHHH

Why can jet fish knock things out of your hands?

[shell island]

Funi

[quiet pilot]

It’s a bug at the moment that that still happens even with the setting turning that off

[final wagon]

How am I meant to get the neurons through

They are literally guarding moon

[quiet pilot]

It may just be hoping they hang out on the other side or that they avoid you

[final wagon]

They just killed each other

[valid stone]

Wowza

[strong adder]

about how long do challenges take to be verified

[final wagon]

It depends

Theshiningshadow has been waiting like two weeks

Some of mine have been done the same day

[shell island]

Ive been waiting like a couple hours ig

[valid stone]

Cool

[dense geode]

if you upload a challenge that takes verification via screenshots and maybe short video clips, id give it a day or 3 or smth. longer format videos well good luck

i think they are still trying to figure out the sheet

[strong adder]

ok

[dense geode]

just give em some time

[final wagon]

Me with my one hour ten minute devotee video

[dense geode]

[shell island]

Oh yeah

Can someone explain devotee more

[verbal mural]

my worst scorerun of all time look away from this horrendous failure

[dense geode]

i am looking directly at it

[verbal mural]

completing this challenge took all the strength in me to resist wrecking the entire ecosystem

[final wagon]

Surely the knowledge that you saved countless lives makes it easier to bear

[shell island]

Booooriiiing

[dense geode]

lameeee

you only need murder

[verbal mural]

i live to morder everything

nothing is safe

[austere schooner]

most creatures are safe by the looks of it

[valid stone]

My worst was 62 as monk

[final wagon]

Enlightenment

That makes 10

[fair cape]

nice

[final wagon]

Do I have to wait for them all to be verified before I get champion?

I assume so

[fair cape]

i mean that makes sense

[valid stone]

I’m going to try to do Usurper challenge

Although idk how to do it

[final wagon]

Only 3/10 have been verified

[fair cape]

welp have fun waiting 2 weeks for them all to get verified

[valid stone]

What’s?

[final wagon]

Challenges

[valid stone]

Ah ok

Is usurper hard? And how do I prepare

@kindred adder how did you do usurper? I’m gonna try to do it

[fair cape]

get a bunch of spears

[shell island]

Yes and spears

[fair cape]

iirc about 8-10 to pacify one

[valid stone]

Bruh

[fair cape]

give or take

[valid stone]

Wait!!!!

I know where I can get that many!

The precipice!

K

[fair cape]

killing scavs

[valid stone]

Bye for now

[kindred adder]

i went to chimney canopy and suffered

[fair cape]

isn't that downpour or am i dumb?

[kindred adder]

mainly try to kill all the normal vultures one cycle so you can kill the kings next cycle

because the normal vultures will get in the way whether or not you use a grub

[shell island]

No

Smh my head

[fair cape]

idk i never watched the movie

[kindred adder]

also demasking kings the cycle before would be good because i dont think they can shoot you if you demasked them the previous cycle

though their bites will be instakill so watch out

@valid stone do you wanna see my usurper video lol

[kindred adder]

mmmmnope

no dp for server challenges

also might wanna delete that

there could be non dp people here who could get spoiled

[dense geode]

more like forever

[fair cape]

when'd they change it so it has to be survivor?

now you have to lineage a red and a cyan

[austere schooner]

@tall kindle is this^ intentional??

[tall kindle]

jhi

oh

[austere schooner]

that seems like a big enough step up that old submissions with hunter taming should be unverified

[tall kindle]

ungoinked

that was a rogue change lol it wasnt discussed as a team

[fair cape]

yeah it didn't really make sense for that challenge to require lineaging

[austere schooner]

[tall kindle]

[dark crown]

I hope I don’t have to redo the challenge for it… that would not be fun

[fair cape]

it was just changed thank god

[tall kindle]

generally any change to a challenge shouldnt invalidate previous submissions i think

both because its unfair to people who beat it without the knowledge it would be changed and also because its a ridiculous amount of work for us to go through and retroactively invalidate lol

[valid stone]

Yeah please

[valid stone]

BRUH

Super sad

[fair cape]

[valid stone]

What

[valid stone]

Thank you

[valid stone]

How do you kill all of them in one cycle?? Plus it’s with survivor

And in CC

With tons of lizzards

Is it possible to kill all enemies in a region?

[balmy falcon]

ursurper is with hunter

well

ideally you'd want to do it with hunter anyway

so you don't have to wait for lineages to occur

[valid stone]

I thought it was survivor??

[balmy falcon]

doesn't specify, so you can do it as hunter

[valid stone]

Ah ok

Uh

What does the variation colum mean?

[balmy falcon]

^

[valid stone]

Ah ok

And what’s is see mod list

[balmy falcon]

in the info tab

[valid stone]

Ah ok thanks

What are all thoses mods?!

[balmy falcon]

a lot are cosmetics

vestiges lets you see where other people died and lets other people see where you died

[verbal mural]

if you want to use a mod that's not just cosmetics it's probably banned lol

[balmy falcon]

yeah lol

DMS is enough fun for the challenges

i love making pebbles do dumb shit

[valid stone]

Wdym? Like other people that play rain world?

[balmy falcon]

yeah

[valid stone]

Cool!!!!

I wanna see that!

[balmy falcon]

you can check the vestiges mod on the steam workshop i don't use it so i'm not sure how exactly it works

[valid stone]

Cant wait to see where YOU died banba

[balmy falcon]

i know a google sheet is used for it though LOL

lmao i don't use it so you can't

[valid stone]

Lol

[valid stone]

Bruh

Sad

“Rain world challenges are for thoses who want to change their names, nothing else.”

• Sung Tzu, Lenin, Stalin, FDR & JFK

[verbal mural]

the art of war

[valid stone]

Lol yes

[quiet pilot]

It was originally any slugcat, then a rogue change changed it to Survivor several hours ago, and now it’s back to any slugcat. Thankfully!

[abstract pond]

you can do usurper on survivor ???

yaaay

[toxic basin]

but why the fuck would you

is there like

even a region

with 2 kv lineages

[dark crown]

Nope

[austere schooner]

have to double spawn

which does make the lineage easier but why lol

[abstract pond]

wai

oh i thought htis ws for every vulture

[kindred adder]

https://youtu.be/ENw40ZW4730

[kindred adder]

i stayed near the top with the bridges that went to si and wall

i tried to do it in the room outside of the si gate but i ended up moving to the bottom wall shelter at the end

which was annoying because you had to go through the gate every time you died

idk my run was really scuffed lol

[valid stone]

Hi

I got 6 pings. That’s a lot

[valid stone]

Thank you

That is super chaotic

Il have to do lots of practicing

How do they not bite you?

[kindred adder]

the bite gets cancelled if you stab them

gotta be really quick tho

[kindred adder]

oh yeah also i died A LOT

it took me like 5 hours

but also i heard others say it was easy

idk as i said my run was hella scuffed

[valid stone]

Yikes ok

[valid stone]

Thanks

I don’t have five hours

Sadly

[kindred adder]

rip

i did it over two days

[valid stone]

I’m prob gonna do it over 2 years?

[kindred adder]

me doing pilgrimage

except that was like 3 weeks

and i wasnt even doing the challenge for 2 weeks lmfao

[valid stone]

Lol

[dense geode]

i got bored trying to lineage and made some new friends

also on the note of lineage am i doing something wrong?

i swear the greens den has gone to the empty tier but it always just respawned the green and never the pink

did double spawning outskirts fuck it up?

[verbal mural]

double spawning can only make it go faster, also you're probably not going to the empty tier and you're just getting the 2/3 chance of the lizard not respawning the next cycle

also once you do lineage a pink be careful about killing both because you could end up with both lineaging at the same time and skipping past cyan

[dense geode]

i have been murdering it for an hour

its not lineaged once

[verbal mural]

it took me like a hundred cycles with doubled outskirts so i feel the pain

actually maybe like 80

[kindred adder]

sheeshus what

are you doing pilgrimage

it took my pilg cyan 32 cycles to lineage on normal outskirts lmao

[balmy falcon]

lineaging is really hit or miss

[dense geode]

bruh i killed the pink and it skipped to the red

FINALLY

yknow what im gonna go tame the red since he's here

[dense geode]

OH MY GOD HES HERE

aw shit

now i gotta pick between him or the red

[quiet pilot]

I was so close this was my second king vulture to pacify (the first is ominously absent from the latter part of the recording? but that's why I have two king masks), and it was an extremely intense duel that lagged my computer ;-;

[dense geode]

I know it’s prolly not a good time but the way the one just looks up at you ascending is really funny

[toxic basin]

yeah lol

[quiet pilot]

I guess the vulture was just as stunned as I was

[ember tree]

spoiler: i didn't remember which ones were vanilla and which were dlc so i just sent all of them.

[shell island]

hmmm

for chieftan

i assume the scavengers have to be alive?

[fair cape]

ye

[shell island]

[dense geode]

[shell island]

i was just checking before i did it

i mean

im playing a mod so im gonna finish it before any challenges

[dense geode]

@verbal mural yoooo your devotee got verified finally

now it's shay's turn to wait a month

oh yeah

[dense geode]

you can technically just glitch em in there

unless downpour patched it

just get like 5 scavs to follow you into a gate room into shoreline, and they be put into the shelters in lttm

[austere schooner]

can’t it be my turn to wait a month

[verbal mural]

[dense geode]

maybe, we'll have to wait and see

[quiet pilot]

hey, can I have people's opinion on whether these two are pacified or not before i potentially submit?

[quiet pilot]

Eyyy Guess that's what happens when you have a bunch of submissions in a few weeks lol

[fair cape]

i think maybe because they both couldn't attack you and both were technically on the screen

though might be best so ask staff as they have the final say

[dense geode]

i killed all the monster kelp in our way and goober just launches himself offscreen into one anyway

[dense geode]

idk dont they need to be permanently pacified?

that last one looked liek it could fly

[quiet pilot]

See, thats what I was unsure about. It flew away, but then fell? And the role mentions that they shouldnt be able to bite or harpoon, but can still move their body above the ground and walk

[dense geode]

i dont think that was walking

what did he do after the video ends?

[dense geode]

ask a staff for sure

[quiet pilot]

He might've flown away to a different room where he was still injured? If that's possible (i met a King later who seemed unable to fly properly?) But honestly, I'm not quite sure, which makes me feel less convinced it was successful

[dense geode]

i dont think it'll count tbh

sorry

[quiet pilot]

It's cool!! just maybe'll have to redo it 😅

[dense geode]

good luck

[balmy falcon]

oh hey my visions submission got verified

all cleared for when i get ascension then

good luck on usurper shay!

[fair cape]

was doing devotee and this stupid flying centi kept killing EVERY LAST SQUIDDY

also known as the only way for me to get the the area i need to be at

like i make it to the room with all the squidcada and i just see like 8 corpses and a smug ass centi

[dawn dragon]

Kill the centi as revenge

[fair cape]

i mean centi's are already on my kill on sight list

alongside scavs

[dawn dragon]

Based

[austere schooner]

you can get across those gaps without a squiddy

[valid stone]

Yes

[fair cape]

this one?

how tf

[final wagon]

This one basically required it when I did it

Which was annoying because you go that way three times

Which means leaving behind a vulture mask

[balmy falcon]

oh yeah you can backflip roll pounce across this one

left to right at least. i think you can still do it right to left with a throwboost ?

[austere schooner]

you can do both both ways without a throw boost but do it for both gaps to be safe

i probably do it here https://youtu.be/QgOy6UuDjww

[valid stone]

Gotta catch ‘em all

[final wagon]

Wow

at 33:02

I am not able to do anything like that

Hence the squidcada

[valid stone]

I’m what did he do?

Video won’t work

[fair cape]

yeah imma stick with the squidcada for now

[final wagon]

I don't know enough about movement

[fair cape]

same

[valid stone]

[fair cape]

at best i can somewhat consistently do slide pounces

[austere schooner]

followed by an evil dropwig spot

[final wagon]

Something like a backflip into a roll into a pounce and a throw

idk

[austere schooner]

there’s a trick to bring your mask with the squid

[fair cape]

the first jump seems very possible but the second one

[final wagon]

I used the shelter by the sky island gate so it was less of a pain

[fair cape]

yeah same

great place in the middle of most of the echoes

[austere schooner]

#tech-resources message

[balmy falcon]

it's effectively just a slightly higher pounce but yeah it can take a bit to get used to

you want to jump on the third roll for maximum height

like, slide pounces and roll pounces are practically the same thing, you can just do roll pounces in tighter spots because you can backflip into a roll

it looks fancy but it's not that complicated once you know what's going on

[dawn dragon]

#1070071773598588998 message

broke: 2 hand glitch squid
woke: roll pounce

[fair cape]

i've nailed left to right but for right to left i like to just stay safe with squiddy

[balmy falcon]

yeah understandable really

[rotund latch]

centificer

[steel compass]

lmao

wrong reply

[balmy falcon]

jerk

[final wagon]

Was this ascension?

[balmy falcon]

yeah

i keep choking on the wall i choked orb skip just now

damned orb room

[final wagon]

What is orb skip?

Is it going up the side with spears instead of going through

[balmy falcon]

well this attempt went well

yeah you skip the yellow lizard orb

[final wagon]

I don't know how you can do it

39 minutes is too short

[balmy falcon]

i got cocky...

[balmy falcon]

not really honestly

well at the very least

i do feel more confident in my capabilities here

as long as i can get past the orb, i'm pretty much set

unless i make some dumb mistake like this

[balmy falcon]

how's my time for this room though

[valid stone]

Lol

[dense geode]

well

ascension is determined by time outside

im just stupid

i think 25m is pretty good for that room

[final wagon]

I meant that is it not enough time for me due to my lack of skill

[dense geode]

not really

[tranquil stream]

it is pretty generous

I made a lot of mistakes in my run and even died once and still got it

[dense geode]

well, arm id say if you can do slide pounces, and pole boost climbs, you'll be fine

[dense geode]

(i think, idk its not verified yet)

[tranquil stream]

see ya in a month

[dense geode]

yep

i got to the final transition at 38 20 ish so when i retimed it myself

so im pretty confident i made it

[tranquil stream]

it is valid as long as it is below 39:00

so you are good I think

[balmy falcon]

yeah fpc does Wonders for your time

extended slides are great for timesaves too, but if that’s too hard chaining roll pounces is fast too

[jagged igloo]

I had a great run going and then a black lizard killed me right on a camera transition :3

but it’s fine I’ll just do it later

I had like 5 minutes to spare so I can afford to go slower

[dense geode]

depths taking 5 minutes to get through because its long, boring, and the final rooms are rough terrain:

[jagged igloo]

I still need to review the second half of the route to be safe honestly

I always miss one room in filtration and it can have potentially disastrous consequences

[dense geode]

what id recommend

enable dev tools or warp, and go to the den right outside ds to filtration gate, and just practice your run over and over

till you get it semi regularly

[jagged igloo]

I’ve been practicing it in segments and I do get it on most attempts

but it’s as a run from outskirts to end

[dense geode]

practice filtration by itself

[jagged igloo]

unfortunately that run (first attempt at a “proper” finish) I got memed

went down one of the longer tunnels and immediately got bit as I passed the camera lmao

[dense geode]

[jagged igloo]

unfortunately filtration gives you by far the absolute least counterplay to bad lizard ai

[tranquil stream]

[valid stone]

What do you mean?

[jagged igloo]

filtration is too small to maneuver around lizards

some routes just instantly kill you if a lizard decides to sit there

[valid stone]

Ahh

Yeah

[jagged igloo]

which is crap because it’s the last region of the entire run with hostiles

[valid stone]

Or distract with rubbish

[tranquil stream]

I almost got mauled by moles

[jagged igloo]

if you throw rocks at lizards in small tunnels it doesn’t even do anything to them

[tranquil stream]

I fought them in pipes and somehow won

[jagged igloo]

like a .5s micro stun

there isn’t enough room for them to flip over

[dense geode]

i mustve gotten lucky then. the ai shat out adn let me run by like 2 of them right in front of them and they didnt care

[valid stone]

No you throw them at other pipes and let them moves towards the sounds

Then you go

[jagged igloo]

in the bigger parts of filtration it’s possible to get around them but I’m not thinking of those

[jagged igloo]

nah they’re just stupid as fuck and as long as there is any space it’s easy

[dense geode]

yeah

[jagged igloo]

I just happened to get the lame spot where I’d land directly on top of its mouth

[dense geode]

that third cylinder thing comes to mind

[jagged igloo]

yeah that room

[dense geode]

thats a hard chokepoint sometimes

[jagged igloo]

the one where the “correct” path is to go left and then straight down a long fall into the exit tunnel

at the intersection between left and going down there is a very very minuscule chance a lizard can be waiting there

usually they end up in the pipes lower in the room but some amazingly bad luck can get them up at the camera

if that happens you just die

[dense geode]

I got unlucky that it went down. I then tried to run by and got cornered into the shelter

I then got a cutscene too

[balmy falcon]

i lost a run there too fucking asshole was camping the pipe exit in the second FS room

i didn’t have a rock on me

[agile tulip]

https://youtu.be/5L9d1zzglZ0

[valid stone]

that’s a lot of kills

A red lizzards AND a red centi!’damn

[agile tulip]

yeah it's for the ranger challenge which needs 32 unique creature kills, so that's why those are there

[steel compass]

yeyyy

[steel compass]

https://youtu.be/xSNh9GwCUGc this too

[dense geode]

You were visiting

[steel compass]

i visited

[balmy falcon]

I DID IT

35:52

THANK YOU MOLE LIZARD RNG

[short rover]

You ascended

[balmy falcon]

i'm gonna actually draw a proper thumbnail for this at some point i think

how did i shave a whole six minutes off my previous time though holy fucking shit

[tranquil stream]

[dense geode]

ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US

[balmy falcon]

i feel like i snorted crack my brain is going so fast right now

i'm in a meeting right now so i can't crop and upload the video but it will be up. today. probably

[quiet pilot]

Well done!! ^-^

[balmy falcon]

thank you

[tranquil stream]

doing chef rn

pain

2 regions in and already sick of my dinner disappearing into backrooms

always give them a hug in a shelter

[balmy falcon]

i hate jetfish so much

[fair cape]

I have a deep hatred for all movement helping creatures

[balmy falcon]

i like grapple worms

and something downpour exclusive

everything else can go die

[tranquil stream]

"helping" yeah...

[balmy falcon]

[tranquil stream]

wall jumping with it is also cool

if you try it

?s

[balmy falcon]

oh god yeah grapple worms make wall jumping suck

but i love them too much, i forgive them for it

[tranquil stream]

I remember my first walkthrough

I got a worm and didn't know how to drop it

so I thought it will be with me for the rest of the game

[steel compass]

hm, what challenge do i do next

i'm thinking of doing saint, ranger and outlaw

or well the hunter run ones

[balmy falcon]

forcibly acquired a friend

[tranquil stream]

I had a love/hate relationship with it

[tranquil stream]

saint is fun

[steel compass]

i'm making a route for ranger

the saving grace is that hunter has a DLL in GW

[balmy falcon]

they do?

[steel compass]

yep

reskinned to be brown

[balmy falcon]

damn

ah

huh

[steel compass]

same way spearmaster has BLLs reskinned to be blue lmao

[balmy falcon]

[steel compass]

i'm gonna use the scav treasury next to it to get explosive spears and kill them

what i'm wondering is where i'm gonna get the red centi kill

[balmy falcon]

spear spam...?

[steel compass]

i meant where

[balmy falcon]

ah, yeah i don't know where the best place is ngl

[steel compass]

wait are there literally only 2 non lineage red centipedes

[balmy falcon]

yeah

[steel compass]

GW and SB

[balmy falcon]

one in GW one in sub i think?

[steel compass]

well one of them is conveniently next to a scav treasury

[tranquil stream]

that's the strat rn as I heard

[steel compass]

anyone have an image with all the popcorn plants on hunter

[balmy falcon]

think someone shared a file in here a while back, but i don't have it

[quiet pilot]

Here you go ^^

[tranquil stream]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/144yRtNxdU5up17_HOp_S1AoJv2OoGe4E

[steel compass]

thanks

[steel compass]

current progress

[valid stone]

cool

[shell island]

the variation lol

[balmy falcon]

https://youtu.be/I1vBWHzjHjI

thumbnail pending

https://youtu.be/jW7nEoH3jNI

bonus video i had fun annotating

i love when they turbo spin

[shell island]

What happened to survivors tail lmao

[balmy falcon]

i have no fuckin clue

there was also this. i'm not sure what that flip near the start was

did i accidentally do a turn storage flip?

[balmy falcon]

now. these can be uploaded to speedrun.com, right?

how would i go about that process?

[jagged igloo]

https://imgur.com/6aTNe7z

3 runs in a row have failed to the shit lizard ai

why do they do this and never move

its literally been this exact same room exact same situation

[fair cape]

white lizards suck

[jagged igloo]

3 runs in a row this same room has happened

white lizard afks in the tunnel and wont move no matter how much i bump it until i suicide to it

[balmy falcon]

oh my god two clogged that room too for me i got lucky

[jagged igloo]

theres no counterplay

you just have to fucking reset

they wont move

[fair cape]

almost every challenge i've done that white lizards were in they've been a nuisance

besides journey since i had a vulture mask

[balmy falcon]

yeah it's almost always white lizards

[fair cape]

i've lost so many attempts to white lizards sitting directly out of a pipe or at the bottom of a tunnel

or just sitting right in front of where i need to go

[balmy falcon]

same

[jagged igloo]

https://imgur.com/eVTPPTw

4 runs in a row now ended to these 2 rooms

this game is so dogshit

[verbal mural]

[jagged igloo]

theres no way to throw a rock down so the only way to win in this position is to go down and then back up

but the game randomly ejects me downward out of the tunnel

so i cant go back up

so i get bit

[balmy falcon]

honestly i kind of... snuck past one of the two that was camping this tunnel

[jagged igloo]

so i rock the lizard

which pushes me down

[balmy falcon]

you probably could go fast enough before it can tongue you

[jagged igloo]

no

[balmy falcon]

what do you mean no

[jagged igloo]

when i take stupid risks like that i die

at least when i don't i can blame the game for causing stupid bullshit and not me for making bad choices

i'd LOVE to know why instead of climbing into the pipe i just got randomly pushed downward into the lizard

actually ill just do that and record it next time so u can see what happens when i ever take risks

[shell island]

Me when rain deer

[balmy falcon]

[jagged igloo]

i got past the room this time because finally on the fifth attempt it wasn't blocking an exit, but an entrance

https://imgur.com/rpKNqIn

only for this to happen

yeah sure 2 blues and a camo in the one room where i cant get around them

if it was 2 blues i could bait them over the ledge but there was a camo waiting to make that impossible

this wonderful situation only required all of this to come together to perfectly fuck me up

they arent even guaranteed spawns :3

[austere schooner]

looks like it

[balmy falcon]

not even sure when i got the storage

[austere schooner]

make an account on src, click Submit Run on the relevant leaderboard, go from there

[balmy falcon]

i see

i gotta work on class work first, but thank you

well idk how long it takes but i really should catch up on stuff

my brain has been buzzing with rain world all day

[austere schooner]

gl

submitting a run is like 2 minutes, it being verified may take a week or two though

[balmy falcon]

thank youu

i'm prepared to have the server challenge take two weeks to get verified too lmfao

if it's 2 minutes i can do it real quick then

[jagged igloo]

holy fuck

the ai on my run was so bad that playing just to not die

i ran out of time at the chimney canopy wall bridge

purely out of my control

(no spears here)

had to wait for this guy

had to get around this guy

then this...

[balmy falcon]

it's slower, but you can make this jump without a spear

can't help with the lizard though

[jagged igloo]

you can make it without a spear

except when a camo is camping the spot you need to jump from

so it was a forced timeloss waiting for it to leave

i went and watched through the video

a camo or vulture blocked literally every single exit the entire run from that first screenshot

every. single. room

cant make this shit up yet people pretend like their luck is comparable

anyway its fine eventually ill get something ok if i keep slamming my face at it

[dense geode]

wait till you see the wall room

OH SHIT

I GOT ORANGE LETS GO

[jagged igloo]

the wall is a joke

theres 2 paths in every room

[dense geode]

that one room theres like 3 whites and a blue

they just

sit there

[jagged igloo]

NEVERMIND HAHA

GOT TO THE LIZARD ORB, 0 SPEARS SPAWNED ON THE ENTIRE WALL SOMEHOW

[balmy falcon]

AYYYYYYYYY LET'S GO

[jagged igloo]

HAD TO GO TO THE ORB

KILLED ON A CMERA BOUNDRY

[dense geode]

[jagged igloo]

literally

the only part of the wall that does not have 2 routes

and only does not have 2 routes if you dont have spears

and i get no spears

and i get ai'd

[valid stone]

SOEARMASTER BESTEST

[jagged igloo]

what the fuck man

every single lizard in all of filtration showed up

my punishment for using warp mod to practice lmao

[jagged igloo]

PLEASE TELL ME THERES A WAY TO DO FILTRATION SYSTEM THAT ISNT JUST LIKE A 1/10 CHANCE

i downloaded warp mod and ive teleported myself there at least 20 times and not had a single attempt where there werent 3-6 black lizards blocking the speed route

you cant even spear them because of how narrow the tunnel is

[shell island]

:)

[jagged igloo]

i reiterate my point from before

what a dogshit speed game

i think i might modify the route to shelter at the top of filtration

just so i can attempt again when i inevitably get ai'd to death by 7 black lizards

[jagged igloo]

like come the ufck on

[fair cape]

What challenge are you practicing for?

[jagged igloo]

ascension

but i won't be able to compelte a run because my luck is so much worse than everyone else's

i watch streamed completion attempts where these lizard patterns dont happen in 5 attempts i sit here teleporting back to back10 times and not once is it passable

i go fast enough and lose ALL my time to bad luck

[fair cape]

Maybe practice starting from the shelter that you’re gonna use to get to filtration

So you can practice the route to get there and give the moles more time to move around

[jagged igloo]

that's the first shelter in outskirts

if i practice from there i may as well just do the run

[fair cape]

I’m just saying it’s better imo to practice the whole cycle rather than practicing just filtration

[jagged igloo]

so

does anyone wanna tell me why set cycle length is not standard for ascension challenge

[dense geode]

uhhhhhhh

[jagged igloo]

or how it was a skill issue getting to wall in 8 minutes

[dense geode]

skill issue

no

but actually it may be due to it being considered not "vanilla"

or that the submission of speedrun.com dont allow it to my knowledge

you are one cycling pebbles right?

when you cach karma, if you dont get a long cycle id just restart

[jagged igloo]

yeah i need to start doing that

[dense geode]

like long long

thats what i did, saved me some frustration

[jagged igloo]

i feel hella cheated

cause i did that half so well

[dense geode]

thats rain world for ya

do some cool shit, just to get stopped by a stupid white lizard

[jagged igloo]

this is a failure of the rules not the game

rain world provides a remix setting that specifically stops this and we disallow it for some reason

even tho it has no bearing on the speedrun itself

[dense geode]

i mean you could ask the mods if youd like

maybe try and convince em to change it, though i wouldnt hold your breath

[jagged igloo]

yea ill take a look thru meta to see why this is even a thing

[dense geode]

ill also say

the challenge allows for some mistakes and waiting

so if you have to wait for a fatass white lizard to mvoe for 30 seconds it wont kill the run

i did pretty sloppily and made it with 30ish seconds to spare still

[jagged igloo]

i was less than a minute behind the pace of WR and got killed by the rain

that screams rule flaw to me

[fair cape]

not really

[dense geode]

no way its forg

[fair cape]

caching allows you to (technically) change the cycle length to have a better attempt

[fair cape]

‼️

[dense geode]

[dense geode]

and if you get a bad cycle, its not too bad of a restart

maybe a minute lost?

[jagged igloo]

its also totally pointless though

[dense geode]

i dont see it too bad. get a bad cycle at the end of caching, then restarting is just optimal at that point

[jagged igloo]

its preserving a purely random element that the game itself has not seen as worthy of preservation for the sake of having it

[balmy falcon]

you don't need a Long long cycle

i honestly found it easier when i got one that was just enough for me to get above the rain band

[jagged igloo]

yea you dont need something hella long, if i had even 1 more minute i would be fine

[balmy falcon]

cause then every lizard above it is gone

[jagged igloo]

i got literally min length cycle

[balmy falcon]

yeah that's not long enough

[dense geode]

you dont, but im just saying its easier that way as it provides more leniency in regards to time

in the end its up to you as the player if you wanna try a shorter or medium length cycle

[balmy falcon]

it provides leniency for chimney, but then you have to wait for lizards but i guess that's more preference

[dense geode]

im not saying restart each time you dont get a max cycle

[balmy falcon]

yeah

find your sweet spot

[dense geode]

i remember hitting the sweetspot once

the rain started coming as soon as i got up past the orb room

white lizard room was completely empty

it was great

[balmy falcon]

personally i found this length just about perfect

slightly shorter makes orb skip a bit tight, but also it can mean the yellows have already run and you can. skip orb skip

[dense geode]

orb skip?

[balmy falcon]

spear up the side

you see those bumps there?

you can stick a spear in the wall just above the tunnel, and then climb up those two bumps to skip the lizard orb entirely

world record uses one spear, i always found two more consistent for me

and an extra one to get up into the tunnel up top of course

[dense geode]

i just did orb originally, oranges and all

[balmy falcon]

damn

orb skip is really nice, it definitely helps save time

[dense geode]

i kid you not i didnt look up hardly any runs before doing mine. only looked up the drainage route

so i winged it

[balmy falcon]

unless you somehow throw the spear the completely other way when you try to spear the wall

oh yeah i tried that first, but tabled ascension until i looked up the pebbles% route

it still worked for you though

it's sort of just a balance of finding timesaves and figuring out what you can manage

i gave up on trying to do eihops extended slides are enough

[dense geode]

ihops? what those

[balmy falcon]

eihops are when you instantly jump out of an extended slide

[dense geode]

also i fucked up like half my slides in my run. i feel so bad for the person who had to verify my sloppy run

[balmy falcon]

it gets you a ridiculous amount of height and distance

eihops are hard because you have to like

it's a series of near frame perfect inputs, from what i can tell?

you slide, throw backwards, and then jump out of the slide on the first frame(?) of the slide

[dense geode]

i mean extended sldies sound easier to do

[balmy falcon]

i fuck up half my extended slides as is

[dense geode]

and get the job done

[balmy falcon]

trying to eihop actually fucked up my extended slide muscle memory too

and yeah extended slides are much more lenient

and already make you so much faster

[dense geode]

i can do extended to the right half the time but to the left? impossible (i think playing one handed has smth to do with it but i cannot get it down for the life of me

[balmy falcon]

felt

[dense geode]

wait now

no

reverse it

[balmy falcon]

lol

[dense geode]

i cant do left oens

[balmy falcon]

yeah i get you

[dense geode]

try to remember directions challenge : impossible

[balmy falcon]

sometimes i mess up and throw forward instead, sometimes my slide doesn't input because i hit throw too early and i just do a weird crawl jump thing instead

very fun when i have a vulture on my ass

[dense geode]

feel that

[balmy falcon]

when it works out though it feels sick

[dense geode]

had that happened once and i failed every single slide but made it somehow

[balmy falcon]

[dense geode]

vulture decided that day was his leg day i guess

[balmy falcon]

leg day or wing day

[dense geode]

both

[balmy falcon]

cause they walk with their wings

[dense geode]

i throw the rock forward when i throw too early

or i fucked up the slide and it forces me to throw forwarde

[balmy falcon]

lol same

i don't even know what my fingers are doing when i do extended slides

i'm just hoping it works out

https://rwtechwiki.github.io/docs/movement/extendedslideinstantjump/

here's the doc for eihops by the way

[dense geode]

after taking a day break i am not looking forward to dealing with goober again

[balmy falcon]

good luck with pilgrimage

[dense geode]

which page

oh shit they madea wiki for rw movement\

since when

[balmy falcon]

it's been here for a while

[dense geode]

extends look to go farther so why not just do those

[balmy falcon]

also yeah it's frame one

aka there is no way i can do that

extended slides take you far on flat ground for sure, but eihops are good for crossing gaps

chimney bridge is a notable example

[dense geode]

im tryin, its hard for the lineage part and that lizard ai (cyans specifcally) have a collective iq of 12 so

[balmy falcon]

yeaaahh

[dense geode]

its at teh hardest spot imo

memory crypts

[short rover]

It is really helpful to stay in horizontal pipes

[dense geode]

underhang may be annoying with dlls and goober thinking his people need him and flying into the void but ill manage that

[short rover]

Because cyans like to push you up

Into death

[dense geode]

yeah, he sits still then

[balmy falcon]

augh what

[short rover]

In vertical ones

[balmy falcon]

[short rover]

I personally just rush through it

And hoped Einstein could get through

[dense geode]

does the cyan just figure his own way i assume

[short rover]

Yeah

[dense geode]

good to know

[short rover]

They might actually be a lot better at it when you are not nearby

[dense geode]

i dont wanna hang around in underhang any longer than i have too

[short rover]

Since they focus on going to you instead of fighting dlls

[dense geode]

pun not intended

[short rover]

Or jumping into the void

[dense geode]

their ai makes this thier second priority tho

im sure ill figure it out

[valid stone]

Hi

[dense geode]

it cant be worse than miro hell

[valid stone]

Not

[short rover]

Just have fun karma farming in that shelter before FP

[balmy falcon]

yeah sometimes taking advantage of abstracting might be easier

[short rover]

Since you need karma 5

[balmy falcon]

you're allowed to karma cache right?

[short rover]

No idea

[dense geode]

karma caching is allowed i beleive

[balmy falcon]

for pilgrimage?

[valid stone]

[dense geode]

at least shay told me so

[short rover]

Oh for FP

[dense geode]

wait out the rain yea

[short rover]

I just waited until the cycle was over

So all the dll go away

They can be a bit slow in low g for some reason

[dense geode]

its always funny to see lizard ai just, break, in zero g

[short rover]

They like to linger in a room

[dense geode]

like they dont know what to do

[balmy falcon]

it's funny to see ai break in zero grav in general

[short rover]

Probably not intended for you to bring a liz inside pebsi

[balmy falcon]

though cyans might have a slightly easier time with that leap ability

[short rover]

Yeah, and wall climb

[balmy falcon]

yeah

[short rover]

Einstein could move just fine most of the time

[dense geode]

lineage took so long i almost tamed a red lizard instead of goober

[short rover]

Same

Took me 3 hours

[dense geode]

same

[short rover]

More than the actual pilgrimage

[balmy falcon]

dear god

[dense geode]

i lineaged a red and just said "fuck it, cyan doesnt wanna show? ill have some fun in the meantime then"

[balmy falcon]

you need the red for friend anyway

[short rover]

I was on cycle 66 when I headed out of outskirts

[dense geode]

im gonna do friend on the same save while im at it

[balmy falcon]

[short rover]

I almost spent as many cycles as when I first beat the game

I used 76 cycles for that

[balmy falcon]

i was at 80 something my first run

[dense geode]

geez linage system just fucking sucks

[balmy falcon]

it's tedious

[short rover]

True

[balmy falcon]

it's not that bad when you're not deliberately trying to lineage something

[short rover]

I can't be bothered to do feast for that reason alone

[dense geode]

probably that way so a new player doesnt just get smited 3 cycle in by a red or smth

[short rover]

Like killing a red centi ain't hard

[balmy falcon]

feast isn't that bad imo, in part cause you can just camp in the room

[short rover]

Just need spore puffs

[balmy falcon]

yeah

or spear spam, like someone did

[dense geode]

spearmaster be like

[short rover]

Yeah, but spore puffs is easy

[balmy falcon]

the lineaging took me an hour i think?

[short rover]

And I'm not good

[balmy falcon]

yeah i used puffs

[short rover]

at the game

[balmy falcon]

just had to figure out how to puff it so it didn't run back to its den

[dense geode]

idk the obsession with lineage in the challenges but im not a huge fan of it

[short rover]

I think there is three challenges where you lineage no?

[dense geode]

dunno why theres 3 where the only challenging part is rng game mechanics

[short rover]

Friend, pilgrimage and feast

[dense geode]

yea

[balmy falcon]

you can do friend with hunter saves at least

[short rover]

Oh

[balmy falcon]

it's story mode, not survivor only

[short rover]

Anyways, tamed both a cyan and red as survivor so anyways...

[balmy falcon]

i saved red and cyan for hunter

[valid stone]

Cool

[dense geode]

i linegaed a red in outskirts and tamed a cyan as survivor so i might as well just continue on this file

[short rover]

Yeah

[dense geode]

and a pink and green cause i was bored too

[short rover]

That file is currently being used for scholar

[balmy falcon]

yeah if you lineaged one already you might as well

[short rover]

I am trying to do a saint run next now

On hunter

[balmy falcon]

ooh good luck

[short rover]

It is annoying

Since I can't fight back

[dense geode]

saint just sounds hellish

[valid stone]

I’m doing Spear

[balmy falcon]

if i bothered routing for saint i could probably do it, but

[short rover]

One rock throw at a liz that falls into a death pit, and if you save you gotta retry

Hunter doesn't take that long though

[dense geode]

and knowing lizard ai, this will happen frequently

[balmy falcon]

probably

[short rover]

The wall and CC be like

[valid stone]

Spear is super fun. I skipped through ic and gw really quick but got lots of kills in os

[dense geode]

yep

[short rover]

Especially the wall

[balmy falcon]

ugh

[short rover]

Sky islands too to some extent

[balmy falcon]

zonker hell

[dense geode]

spearmaster?

[short rover]

But that's early in the run

[valid stone]

Ye ye

[dense geode]

the hell tunnel:

[balmy falcon]

wait which one is that

[short rover]

The yellow liz one?

[dense geode]

ye

[short rover]

Where all those mobs spawn?

[dense geode]

that one

[short rover]

I call it ohio

[dense geode]

cause like all the centis and other lizs go there too

[short rover]

The ohio room

[balmy falcon]

the one with the popcorn plant?

[dense geode]

nono

its the tunnel room with 4 orange lizard spawns

[balmy falcon]

oh d06?

[dense geode]

but most the time theres like 1-2 winged centis, a blue, 1-2 white lizards, and maybe some scav to cause more chaos

[balmy falcon]

?

that dropwig was annoying

[dense geode]

yeah thats the one

[short rover]

Oh we both did it at the same itme

[short rover]

If you don't go on the upper part you should be fine

[dense geode]

if you stay under he'll leave you alone mostly

[balmy falcon]

it went in the tunnel once

but yeah

[dense geode]

but you get fucekd if a lizard is going under too

[balmy falcon]

was just a bit startled when i encountered it during my outlaw attempt

lol yeah

[dense geode]

so may the rngods be in your favor ig

[balmy falcon]

pretty much

[short rover]

I usually never have issues with it

[balmy falcon]

they're so fast

[short rover]

There are so much stuff in that room that everything is distracted

[dense geode]

neither do i, but sometimes it does happene

best part of pilgrimage is having to wait 13 seconds each time a cycle starts for your cyan to stop having a mental breakdown upon picking up your mask

[balmy falcon]

[short rover]

I used no mask

Actually

Wasn't that useful tbh

[dense geode]

i used a mask cause it made lineage easier

pacified the greens, easier killing during double spawned outskirts

[short rover]

Fair enough

[dense geode]

cause like 3 came out of the cyan den

[short rover]

Oh, I didn't do doubled spawns lol

[dense geode]

and uh, fuck that

[balmy falcon]

man yeah a cluster of greens is rough

what'd you feed your cyan by the way

[short rover]

They sluggish as hell though

You can legit jump over them

[balmy falcon]

did you drag squid corpses over?

[dense geode]

i went over and stole some noodles

[balmy falcon]

oh

[short rover]

I used baby noodles

[balmy falcon]

that probably helps huh

i'm just perpetually terrified of mama noot

[dense geode]

sometimes the mother would fly over and thered be a lot of free noodle flies

[short rover]

Since you can carry two at the same time and they don't slow you down

[dense geode]

i tamed 2 greens and a pink on accident casue of that

[balmy falcon]

yeah that was always a struggle with squid corpses

[short rover]

You can either make it hit the ground and get stuck or you can lead it through a pipe and hit it as it goes through

That's my strat

[dense geode]

lure it into a pipe and spear it is the best strat

[balmy falcon]

yeah yeah

i'm god awful at dodging noots and king vulture harpoons

[dense geode]

unless you are out in the open then uh, good luck

[balmy falcon]

which there is a lot of in outskirts

[dense geode]

the thing with king vulture harpoons

[dawn dragon]

you can demask a vulture for saint right

[dense geode]

do not run left or right

[short rover]

Yeah

[dawn dragon]

the challenge

[balmy falcon]

yeah i've heard the strats

[dense geode]

or itll nab you at an angle

[balmy falcon]

my reaction time is. bad

[short rover]

Remember that vulture will hunt you down, though

[balmy falcon]

the time it takes for the laser sights to flash and for me to Register it's about to come out is too much

[short rover]

And kill you

[dense geode]

your best chance is staying below it and moving near its fire time

[balmy falcon]

by the time i've figured out i need to jump to dodge it's already fired

[dawn dragon]

just outrun the vulture lol

[dense geode]

yeah but other vultures will attack it too

[valid stone]

Yes

[balmy falcon]

yeah i don't normally fight them LOL

[short rover]

Vultures don't really spawn much for me

I have bad luck

[balmy falcon]

chimney bridge is probably the only place i've ever tried fighting kings

[dense geode]

those fuckers will sometimes piss off or just be the biggest dickheads and not leave

[dawn dragon]

i might actually try saint then

its just normal hunter route

[short rover]

Yeah

[dawn dragon]

and i can demask king on cycle 19

[short rover]

You just need to plan so you can get food

[dense geode]

pretty much

[dawn dragon]

yeah i guess just popcorns

[dense geode]

a king mask makes hunter runs so much easier i swear

[balmy falcon]

popcorn and fruit

[dense geode]

that 30 second scare time is op

[short rover]

Baby noots, baby centis, popcorn, jellyfish

all work

[dawn dragon]

alright

[dense geode]

i dont think so

[short rover]

They do

[dawn dragon]

carrion if you're lucky as well

[balmy falcon]

technically it's no live prey

[dense geode]

those are alive arent they

[short rover]

Doesn't count

[balmy falcon]

but you can't really tell from the score screen

[dawn dragon]

as long as they don't give score

[balmy falcon]

so it's kind of honor code

[short rover]

Don't guve score points

[dense geode]

ig

[short rover]

It is fine, I've asked

I was uncertain about it myself, but it's just fine

As long as you don't kill anything that gives points

[balmy falcon]

there's no way for the verifiers to tell unless you record your run

so

[dawn dragon]

wonder if i should go through SI

[valid stone]

Yes

[short rover]

Yeah, that's a good idea

You can get the echo there, go to CC get the echo there