Server Challenge Submissions

[dense geode]

I hope whoever it was that made the practice mod for that challenge gets put in the mod hall of modding on the spreadsheet

Saving countless hours

[jagged igloo]

probably lol

[dense geode]

Pretty much

[jagged igloo]

yeah

[dense geode]

There isn’t really a way to verify the achievement one

[jagged igloo]

realistic achievement unlock times

[dense geode]

True, though that’d be a lot of screenshots to submit

Plus I know there’d be some totally legit times that just look sus

[zealous sleet]

Speedrunning a fresh game of rain world in order to get as low a time as possible

Blockages challenge when?

[cunning peak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilD5Sf3VzTc

thats 6 challenges done

very cool

[zealous sleet]

Very cool!

[cunning peak]

yes

[distant kestrel]

very cool

[balmy falcon]

the BOUNCE in the subterranean one LOL

yeah it's weird, i have to press against a wall while holding down to starve

slugcat looks very squished when you do that

gotta press against the wall

ope you got it

guardian of the fruit

really? it's never worked for me

okay What are fast rolls

oh interesting

yeah i've seen the fast rolling mod

[abstract pond]

colector

[jagged igloo]

fast roll button mod is allowed for the challenges

also fast roll has some distinct advantages over regular rolling, most notably that it can be done from 1-tile jumps

[balmy falcon]

oh i was wondering about that

cause i saw you rolling in the starting room in wuss%, but i couldn't replicate it

is it allowed if you want to upload to speedrun.com though?

[jagged igloo]

yeah that roll i do after the silos is fast roll only

yes it's allowed

[balmy falcon]

cause the sheet says use of any mods disqualifies it

sweet

[jagged igloo]

actually hm

for speedrun.com i'm not sure if they're caught up yet

virtual controller has been allowed for ages and does the same shit

[balmy falcon]

hm

[jagged igloo]

so fast roll button might be a bureaucratic thing to get allowed

[balmy falcon]

i'm gonna hold off until people are sure then

[jagged igloo]

i mean i can just ask

[dense geode]

I mean you can always ask a staff member for permission

[jagged igloo]

@timid basalt what's the status on fast roll button mod for the speedrun.com leaderboard? allowed?

[balmy falcon]

well that's one way to do it

it's allowed for challenges

doesn't say anything about speedrun.com

i've done challenges with skins on, so i know they're fine for challenges

[jagged igloo]

either way you should get used to it

because if you DO decide to do speedrun.com runs and for some reason it isnt allowed you'll just end up on virtual controller anyway

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[balmy falcon]

eh i'm not that dedicated. i don't think i'm going to really be seriously getting into speedrunning for a while

but it would be cool to upload my ascension run to speedrun.com

[timid basalt]

we aren't going to reject runs because of having the fast roll mod

[balmy falcon]

idk how to use virtual controller stuff

[jagged igloo]

👍

[balmy falcon]

oh nice

[timid basalt]

Or input display. Other mods not okay though

[balmy falcon]

nice

[jagged igloo]

yeah figured

[balmy falcon]

makes sense

i think you need remix

for karma caching

[timid basalt]

remix, more slugcats, jolly, and whatever the other one is are fine

those are just base game at this point

[balmy falcon]

huh, neat

[jagged igloo]

i think score runs have their own rules

[timid basalt]

mmf originally patched it out. There's skill in knowing which of the rolls to use since they have different properties

previously keyboard being locked out of the fast roll completely is weird

many more fixes. Which is a part of Downpour basically

[jagged igloo]

i like having access to fast rolling since it makes the game go faster ;p

feels good to be able to roll and pounce more

[timid basalt]

That's fine

[jagged igloo]

ultimately the choice is yours

[timid basalt]

If you want a competitive time in an any% speedrun though you're seriously handicapping yourself by not using it

[jagged igloo]

you will be leaving some speed on the table by not doing so yeah

then dw about it ;p

you may want to consider it if/when you try ascension

[timid basalt]

Most people could get competitive times if they worked at it

[jagged igloo]

i like practicing movement just for movement's sake, but that translates well to speedrunning

[timid basalt]

some of the biggest things to learn for Pebbles speedrun is extended slides, and fast pole climbing

I always use warehouse

[jagged igloo]

there's also some practice maps on the workshop that are good

move training rooms

[timid basalt]

If you're planning to submit a speedrun then make sure that you show the circle filling at the beginning from the menu. And don't have anything covering the game footage

mostly transparent things are okay if you really need to have something

you don't need to fully swim to the egg at the end. Just need to reach when the camera follows you

[jagged igloo]

too bad wuss% isn't a real category xd

[timid basalt]

I never really looked at it but it seemed kind of dumb

[jagged igloo]

it is

[timid basalt]

we can add anything to the board

[jagged igloo]

i have "wr" because literally nobody is doing it lmao

[timid basalt]

Just need clear rules and people that are interested in it

The game already has too many categories now that we probably won't add any memes for a while either way

So, ask us about it again later if you really want it added

[jagged igloo]

yeah i wasnt petitioning for wuss% its not suited at all

its just a silly meme

[timid basalt]

Of course

there's the full set of categories for every character similar to the base game board

[jagged igloo]

i will probably submit my pebbles% run to the leaderboard just for fun when i finish it

[timid basalt]

you need to look up downpour specifically

[jagged igloo]

it's also under "sub-games"

[timid basalt]

https://www.speedrun.com/rain_world_downpour

[timid basalt]

may as well. Is it for ascension challenge?

[jagged igloo]

yeah

not done yet since i'm still figuring out the route lol but ill probably try to bang it out today or tomorrow

[timid basalt]

I did Gourmand story already

It just isn't on the board

if you can beat IGT of 58:25 then it will be WR (as far as I know)

[jagged igloo]

gourmand speedrunning sounds like a miserable experience

i hate exhaustion so much

[timid basalt]

there's potential with it

Not having fast pole climbing sucks though. I agree

[jagged igloo]

combine no fpc with a naturally slow climb speed = holy shit pain

[timid basalt]

That's why I still prefer regular Survivor or Hunter

[jagged igloo]

yeah but the other downpour character "staminas" are less intrusive since they only exist to prevent spamming special tools

rather than cutting off access to base movement :(

[timid basalt]

that's a fair point

You could do spearmaster instead 🙂

[jagged igloo]

if spearmaster spear pull wasnt so goddamn slow that character would be fun as hell

i love the idea of being able to do item tech everywhere all the time

[timid basalt]

Oh, sorry. lol

I have no idea tbh, but I'll just delete my downpour messages to be safe

if you want to ask me stuff then just go to #speed-score-runs

[fair cape]

first attempt going well

also realized i still had no karma requirements on

[quiet pilot]

For Guardian, in order to meet the guardians at the end, do you need to have max karma to get there? I haven’t actually done it before and want to check

[agile tulip]

you can go down to the depths without maximum karma, the guardians will just toss you around when you get to them

[oak siren]

okay so I had it right the first time lol
video for the Visitor challenge

[tall kindle]

can you get a pic of the jellyfish unlock? (not jetfish)

[final wagon]

This is so sad

I didn't realise you needed at least one food to starve to death

I have to do symbiote all over again now

[fair cape]

nah that still doesn't work iirc

you gotta wait in the shelter till the timer runs out

(might be wrong but that's how it worked for me)

[dark crown]

This is for the friend role :)

[final wagon]

I was in the shelter out of time but it wouldn't close because I had no food

[fair cape]

were you holding any movement buttons?

cause it worked for me with no food

i just had to stop holding any buttons and let the doors close

[verbal mural]

almost there

[final wagon]

I hate myself

I was pressing down to prevent the squidcada from dragging me out

[verbal mural]

do you need the full list of achievements screenshotted for passages?

[verbal mural]

im listing all the vanilla ones out just in case lol

oh yeah and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0lMrSfCYTU

now all i have left to get 20 challenges is saint which goes against everything i stand for as a scorerunner

[final wagon]

I forgot to record leaving the shelter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffhotSE7phM

I hope that doesn't matter

[fair cape]

i- did you just do symbiote without starve flight?

i mean props to you

[jagged igloo]

30 attempts deep into ascension havent even made it to 5p yet

[balmy falcon]

same here

[timid basalt]

sounds like a typical session of attempts honestly

[jagged igloo]

such a dogshit speedgame with such good movement ;D

people would desperately try to escape strats with this success rate in other games

[timid basalt]

if you can't deal with creature rng then rain world is not a good game for you and that's fine

on the other hand the runs aren't optimized enough generally where you need the best version of luck everywhere

And Rain world rarely has, actual "RNG"

speedrunning in general just necessitates a lot of attempts at attempts to get good luck

Like I said earlier, I can beat ascension 4/5 times in a row with no problems

but I've also done these runs a lot and know some tricks for things

[jagged igloo]

i'm not going to accept giving up, even if this game is simultaneously extremely annoying and makes learning as hard as it possibly can

the underlying core of the game is clearly good, it just takes an unimaginably high amount of hours and failures and bullshit to learn

and it IS bullshit

it's NOT fair

but i need to learn around it

[timid basalt]

if it makes you feel better I also despised Pebbles% for a while when I was earlier in playing it

And I thought it was the worst category ever

but most stuff can be dealt with generally

[fair cape]

honestly that sorta what i love about it, you are thrown into a world with no knowledge and everything wants to and will kill you, but with practice everything starts to make sense and, while the game doesn't get easier, you get better

just my personal opinion really

[jagged igloo]

i like the game just fine when not trying to go fast

but i want to go fast, and trying to go fast eliminates like 80% of the things you could normally do to get rid of obstacles

like straight up almost every challenge in rain world can be defeated by simply waiting for it to go away

wait

do you actually have to fucking spam resets for cycle length in pebbles% too

i got to wall in 8 minutes and it was ALREADY RAINING

[balmy falcon]

sometimes yes

my 41:15 run the cycle timer fought me the entire time

[jagged igloo]

its not even supposed to rain up here

[balmy falcon]

i had to reset like 10 times

[jagged igloo]

theres no rain visual

i just get pushed down by thin air

[balmy falcon]

... huh? which room are you in?

orb room still has mild rain

[jagged igloo]

ah

[balmy falcon]

that's the last of the rain band

above that point you're rain free

in the orb room the gravity gets really high when the rain starts

below orb room it's lethal

[timid basalt]

8 minutes with RTA time? Shouldn't be raining for even the shortest cycle length

8 minutes to The Wall is a really good time

[jagged igloo]

nah igt

not on the timer

like 8 minutes in that cycle

[timid basalt]

ah, 8 minutes in that cycle to get there definitely could have some issues

[jagged igloo]

i have to keep stopping for double vultures / quadruple lizards / double camos on top of exits

https://imgur.com/M7uYHGS

i should uninstall

jesus fucking christ

i genuinely dont deserve to finish the challenge now

[timid basalt]

so what even is ascension now?

Like, do you need to do it with remix not enabled because of console or something?

[jagged igloo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

taking a break will not stop a vulture and 2 camos from cornering me in this room

[balmy falcon]

you need remix to do karma caching i'm pretty sure

[jagged igloo]

if i put another 6 hours in maybe i reach pebbles once

[balmy falcon]

yeah

and then a bunch of other stuff turned off

[timid basalt]

I would've thought it would just be on 1.5

I shall play it right now if you want to watch me do it. Might not talk though

it is a steam thing and isn't too difficult

@jagged igloo I'm in... Blocks right now

Seems that I can't make an invite for it atm

[jagged igloo]

soon as i fail this attempt

k had another lizard that woudlve forced me to take a minute long time loss kill me after a rock didnt flip it over and my spear bounced off it

see ummm actually its my fault for not knowing that my crouch and turnaround input would in fact bounce me off the lizard and do a crouch turn launching my spear into the wall

i shouldve waited 25 seconds for the lizard to go into the tunnel on its own so i could chase it and then waste 15 more seconds going back and forth until it lost interest or swapped places

[final wagon]

Starve flight?

[fair cape]

doing a backflip while starving and holding a squidcada lats you fly indefinitely

all you have to do is press jump to go up and release to go down

one of the most fun movement mechanics in the game imo

[balmy falcon]

good grief wow you did it the hard way

if you starve, you can infinitely fly with squidcadas by backflipping

oh forg already explained it

i didn't read

i need to try out squid starveflight myself, i've never done it

[fair cape]

most likely why they made starving a requirement for the challenge

[balmy falcon]

it sounds silly

probably yeah

[fair cape]

yeah it's really fun

[balmy falcon]

i've seen people struggle to backflip though lol

is that the hardest part?

[fair cape]

that and trying not to touch any surfaces with the slugcat

cause that puts you out of infinite flight

[fair cape]

easy way to do it is just to jump so that the squiddy gets thrown down for a sec and do the flip then

[balmy falcon]

interesting

[fair cape]

otherwise the squiddy will just pull you up while trying to walk

[balmy falcon]

yeah i've seen that

symbiote sounds a lot easier knowing this

[final wagon]

This would have been very good to know a few hours ago

[balmy falcon]

[fair cape]

yeah that's basically the bulk of it

[balmy falcon]

hey now you have bragging rights

did a challenge the hard way

[fair cape]

you made the challenge even more challenging

[balmy falcon]

i love these shitty star memes

[fair cape]

the best prize

[jagged igloo]

ok made it to pebbles twice today thats good enough

[tall kindle]

symbiote was added before starve flight was discovered ;3

[valid stone]

What’s starve flight

[balmy falcon]

oh interesting

starve flight is more fun though i figure

[toxic basin]

i also beat it with no starve flight

[fair cape]

Oh damn

Never knew that

I always just assumed the two were linked

[rotund latch]

how tf did people even discover squibflight

[south mural]

Can you use grapple worm by hand swap glitch in Sybiote?

[austere schooner]

i’d think so

[steel compass]

If you starve and hold a squidcada and do a flip you can fly infinitely

[dull goblet]

Visitor squidless is so painful

[dawn dragon]

starve flight is the most fun mechanic in the game but you hardly use it cos starving sucks

starving is fine if you fix it immediately but otherwise its actually annoying

[dull goblet]

Yeah now I know starve flight exists and after practicing with spearmaster, going through Farm Arrays is actually fun

[dawn dragon]

spearmaster doesnt even need to starve

which is tremendous news

[dull goblet]

Its good practice because you don't have to deal with fainting all the time

[tranquil stream]

Mother https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdv_Z_nBJe8

[dull goblet]

I'm going to have such a backlog of submissions because I want to be able to edit properly before I submit them

[pseudo sorrel]

i have a few questions, are these settings for rainworld remix valid?

[south mural]

I think yes, just idk about faster shelter opening

[pseudo sorrel]

ahh okay, then i should ping grandiose light?

since its not there on the sheet :(

[south mural]

If it is not, then it is allowed ig

I think nobody would really care, except maybe the speedrun challenge stuff

[pseudo sorrel]

yeah i feel like faster shelter opening should be on there haha

ahh okay

thank you

[south mural]

It saves like 3 seconds at most

So nothing at all in 39 minute runs

[pseudo sorrel]

welll true haha

the numbers...

what do they mean..

[south mural]

One of Discord challenges is complete Surv run in 39 minutes or less

[pseudo sorrel]

im going to try some of these challenges, some sound just painful

[south mural]

Visitor is the easiest, and Scholar is close second

[pseudo sorrel]

yeah i was thinking visitor first

scholar ahh

[south mural]

Friend, Chieftain and Collector are time consuming but easy

[pseudo sorrel]

wait thats the second easiest?

[south mural]

At least by me

[pseudo sorrel]

oh no :')

barely know where any of them are hahaha

[south mural]

You could use wiki or try some other challenges first

The challenge you will ENJOY trying the most is Friend, if you are monk pilled

Or Saint if you enjoy Survivor more

(this is mine opinion, it sucks and ignore it if you want)

[pseudo sorrel]

haha

im even having trouble getting back to the place hwere i fell

i have a lot to learn

[south mural]

Go to CC and take a grapple worm.

Then just grapple upwards in every place you need to go up.

[dense geode]

both taken in 1.5 on switch, for reverification on spreadsheet.

[pseudo sorrel]

after i realised that the challenge didnt say "do everything in 1 cycle" but rather "do everything in 1 cycle, on any cycle"

i went to the leg xd

[vast ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uB4t0Z75wU

not that I get why I can't just link yt stuff on the doc but whatever

[fair cape]

Doesn’t make that much sense but it’s probably so it’s a bit more organized

[vast ridge]

fair ig

[dense geode]

@verbal mural

[verbal mural]

lmao

glad someone else noticed cause it's been almost 2 weeks

first one got rejected because i "only linked a video of one echo" even though the link to the vid also included the whole rest of the playlist lol

[dense geode]

i keep checking to see if they are verifiying other challenges and kept noticing yours wasnt, despite being the oldest unverified (which im aware staff and challenge helpers have lives)

so thus

meme bron

i want my orange role so bad

[verbal mural]

i def get it though cause it's like an hour lol

[dense geode]

yeah

[azure current]

get this man his devotee role

[dense geode]

#justiceforshadow

[verbal mural]

rain world: the movie

[dense geode]

in a world, so hostile and random, a person must fight for their right to become a devotee

[azure current]

society

[dense geode]

truly

[quiet pilot]

Glip (worm) and Osmit (snail) :))

https://youtu.be/bIh17ELogrU

[jagged igloo]

this thumbnail LOL

survivor is on the verge of tears

[quiet pilot]

Yes haha. A quick selfie with the guardian and gang before being yeeted 🥲

[polar geode]

@tall kindle after DP is released to consoles, can we have a challenge where you'd have to kill 5 apex predators (Red Centipedes/Lizards, Miros Bird, King Vultures) on the same cycle?

[dense geode]

i wonder when the challenge helper applications will open

[austere schooner]

if you submit a challenge (i think) it’s way more likely to get accepted if you have a video of you doing that challenge

[dense geode]

it also means it'll take longer to verify

[austere schooner]

i mean for submitting challenge ideas like fridge’s

[dense geode]

oh

[jagged igloo]

i'm like 80% sure you can't submit a challenge without having completed it

it's a requirement

[tall kindle]

i will ask staff

[polar geode]

It is possible, I already did and recorded it

[south mural]

Didnt they say something like "DP must be turned off, since it provides an unfair boost to those who own it" or something

Seems like it was also a thing for people who didnt purchase DP, not just made for console players

[polar geode]

Challenge that is DP exclusive

[dense geode]

i mean

that would create some complications

but staff probably know better what to do

i think maybe dp challenges should be accepted as a custom challenge

[polar geode]

Same

[dense geode]

instead of one of the main ones

[south mural]

The current complication is that DP doesnt count, and it seems like a better alternative to those who dont own it.

[dense geode]

it keeps it fair for those who dont own dp, but leaves dp challenges as an option on the table

[polar geode]

I thought it didnt count because of console players

[south mural]

But for some reason there were custom roles for people who did some stuff in Hurricane mod i guess?

Like i think there is some role named "Hurricane tamer" or something, that required taming an train lizard

Might be just a situational thing, but not sure if it was really fair for Console players then

They just seemed ignored

(also idk if Console players can complete some of the current challenges normally, since they cannot use the Cycle config mod)

[dense geode]

on that note i always found it odd how some challenges require recordings or videos of the challenge

unless nintendo changed it reecently, how is someone on switch supposed to do those challenges?

i dont recall seeing a recording software on there. unless im just stupid and missed an easy way to do long form recordings on there

[jagged igloo]

capture card

if you don't have one that's a shame play on pc

it would be an impossible ask to make challenges such that everyone on everything with any hardware can always do them anyway

[pseudo sorrel]

would a small custom intro be allowed for submitting my proof?

just something small like "Rainworld" and a text below it "challenges" or something, like 3 seconds

i dont know, i feel like it would look nice!

[polar geode]

It is allowed

[polar geode]

Well, they will be able to when the game gets updated to 1.9

[pseudo sorrel]

i think this will look nice once i edit it down

oh..

i guess there's no preview :')

maybe..?

yes :D

[dense geode]

so for pilgrimage, should i submit a video of me and my lizard friend (name in process) hibernating so that it shows my loaded mods alongside screenshots of every region gate?

or is it an honor system in effect?

i think it'd be hard to fake a screenshot when my scug looks like a orange scav but better safe than sorry

[dense geode]

also is it normal for this to show up? i dont have score galore on

[valid stone]

Yes

[dense geode]

huh

[azure current]

yeah since they added a score screen for every slug now

they show you what you killed just like in hunter before

[dense geode]

well that was fast

HE FRIEND

[valid stone]

Yay

[dense geode]

now i gotta name him

hm

he's acting a bit like an Alex

sauna time

pebbles is preparing for my visit with my new dog

[vast ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3o1s9fmCpc

I dub him little shit

[valid stone]

How do yo knock of vulture masks?

[final wagon]

If you hit it with a spear it may fall off

Monk doesn't do enough damage to knock them off with a single spear I don't think

The spear needs to do 0.95 damage

You can also use explosives

[valid stone]

What about spearmaster

1.25 dmg

Does that mean insta knock off?

[final wagon]

I think it would depend on where you hit it and how fast it is going but I'm not sure

[valid stone]

Ah ok

[dense geode]

a fitting name

[vast ridge]

figured I'd just do passages too

[dense geode]

how do i get my silly little goober pet past teh monster kel

the dumbass just sits over them and gets yoinked every time

[austere schooner]

stab the kelp and run

or kill them

[dense geode]

i killed them

goober was too stupid for his own good

well at least the bird was fed

question does the picture need to be as im going through the gate

or can it be once im on the otehr side

[polar geode]

does anyone know the location of alive vulture grubs in industrial?

[dense geode]

centipede room

this room specifically

[polar geode]

thank you

you are a hero fr

literally saved my "apex predator" routing

[dense geode]

[strong adder]

https://youtu.be/8Hl1s95yJxo

we win these (please ignore me struggling for like 5 minutes

[fair cape]

W

visitor is honestly the best first challenge imo

with ascension being close second

[dense geode]

got through memory crypts first try with goober but forgot to take a gate screenshot

[fair cape]

welp runs dead gotta restart everything

[dense geode]

not really

[fair cape]

ik

[dense geode]

i just gotta go back through memory and do it again ig

[fair cape]

can't you just go back to the gate and take a sc

[dense geode]

i asked grand and i didnt get a straight answer

though shining did it on the other side

plus i have the speedrunner timer on, so that can be matched up to my old screenshots

[austere schooner]

they can't tell from the screenshot tbf

[dense geode]

yeah ik

im just gonna do it incase

[dense geode]

actually wdym

[austere schooner]

it'll be fine from the other side

[dense geode]

you sure?

[fair cape]

yeah isn't it just a sc of you in the gate?

so it should be fine

[dense geode]

yeah, but the gate is closed and shit

like i sheltered already

so it'd look sus

[dark crown]

When do challenge submissions get verified?

[fair cape]

never

[austere schooner]

if you sheltered already not much you can do besides restarting anyway

[dense geode]

[jagged igloo]

finished my first pebbles% run but was not tracking rta

also forgot the route at depths 😳

but ascension attempts soon

[final wagon]

Wait

You can't passage in enlightenment

[toxic basin]

yeah

[final wagon]

This is going to take way longer than I thought

[toxic basin]

lol

remember you can swallow neurons while at full food

[dense geode]

wait till you hear about lineaging a cyan

[final wagon]

Yeah

only three trips

[balmy falcon]

then there's me, who took five because i'm too used to west underhang

[dark crown]

how long does that usually take?

[dense geode]

well

its rng

so its up to fate if you get a cactus shoved up your ass for 3 hours or you can get one in 30 minutes

[dark crown]

ohh

i think the cyan i lineaged on monk took like 10 cycles or something

[dense geode]

i was trying for the past 3 hours to lineage one and i was only lucky enough to get a stupid pink after countless cycles

half the time it would be nothing

frustration is an understament of how i was feeling

but oh well

consider yourself lucky if you got one in 10

[dark crown]

oh i see

i was lineaging 3 dens at once to find the cyan so i guess that boosted the chances a lot

[dense geode]

theres 4 in total acording to map

2 in outskirts, 2 in industrial

i usually check all 4, but the last 2 can be tricky depending how far the lizard has wondered off

one in industrial doesnt have a nothing chance tho so thats worth noting

[dark crown]

theres 3 in industrial

[dense geode]

really?

where

[dark crown]

its hiding behind a green lizard den

[dense geode]

oh shit

i gotta start bullying that pink down there

thats way better odds

and lower chance for it to run off

thanks

[steel compass]

Someone should lineage every red pizza

Lizard*

[dark crown]

yw

[dark crown]

oh lord that would be terrifying

[dense geode]

how many would there be at that point

[steel compass]

Every red in survivor outskirts

[dark crown]

would be funny to lineage a red lizard in underhang

[steel compass]

There's like 7 red lineages in survivor outskirts

Which is actually more than hunter for some reason

[dark crown]

survivor can lineage more red lizards than hunter in exterior as well

funny

this is certainly a fun room to lineage

[valid stone]

yikes

whats the circle with the dash in it?

[dark crown]

it kinda confuses me but it means something about being an empty den if you lineage that

[steel compass]

Nothing

[valid stone]

ah ok

[steel compass]

That means nothing spawns there

And then every cycle it has a % chance to lineage to the next stage

[valid stone]

and so the red lizzard is 0% so that means it eill never spwan?

[toxic basin]

means it'll never lineage into something else

[steel compass]

That means it'll never lineage to the next stage because there is no next stage

[valid stone]

ah ok

[final wagon]

Wait

How am I meant to get more neurons from pebbles

He just kills you

Do I have to go all the way around through the leg?

[steel compass]

The leg is the best way

[pseudo sorrel]

pure pain 🙂

[balmy falcon]

i went via west underhang

but yeah you have to enter through the underhang past the first fwe

[dark crown]

you can put grappling worms in the shelters between TW and UH

if you want to avoid TL and MC

[balmy falcon]

i grabbed one from CC on my way up

it kind of depends on what you prefer? i'm much more accustomed to west underhang and CC, which is why i took that path

[toxic basin]

2 visits for pebbles one for leg

that's what i did

[valid stone]

hi

[random dragon]

I think you can visit pebbs 3 times?

Don't remember

[balmy falcon]

it's actually based on how long you spend in his chamber

so it's more a matter of how fast you are

[valid stone]

why are you guys visiting pebbles so many times?

[tranquil stream]

you can zoom fast through his chamber even after triggering his murder intentions

[random dragon]

Enlightenment challenge

[random dragon]

Only once a cycle though

[tranquil stream]

I did 3 trips back and forth to store 9 neurons in the upper shelter

he tried to kill me

[random dragon]

lol

[balmy falcon]

[valid stone]

lol

[tranquil stream]

on some attempts I managed to go unnoticed under his ceiling without triggering dialog

or monologue I suppose

[valid stone]

has which scug?

[balmy falcon]

survivor

[valid stone]

ah

[balmy falcon]

most challenges are survivor

[austere schooner]

well now the rule’s changed so it’s “specified slugcats only” and not “survivor unless specified”

[random dragon]

https://youtu.be/A2F0AN88S2Y

[tranquil stream]

yeah that was fast

[austere schooner]

so this one you can do as monk

[tranquil stream]

he gave me more time

[balmy falcon]

wait really? huh

i didn't notice that rule change

[austere schooner]

afaik it wasn’t announced anywhere

also “must survive the cycle if single cycle” was replaced by “mods must not be used to setup challenge runs”

[tranquil stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQ3_jYyz6o

[random dragon]

huh

Maybe that was changed in 1.9

[dawn dragon]

wait for collector can we just have the screen

like the

(it does include some DLC stuff as well ig)

[fleet oxide]

https://youtu.be/PAtRpYypSWg visitor submission

[fleet oxide]

Uh its saying it needs to be a message link even though its a messsage link

[tall kindle]

[fleet oxide]

i figured it out

i had to delete the 'app' from the link

[quiet pilot]

A screenshot from my successful Sub Echo Devotee run lol (a vulture and large centipede stuck in a tunnel)

[tranquil stream]

they do be like that

[agile tulip]

https://youtu.be/jJ3uDNoMa5c

ummmm this isnt proof its just that this son of long very bINCH

uhhh mmmm oh it was in the webm but these torture devices are known as "The Great Unending Calamity Known as Grapple Worm"

...Oh yeah, and Pete. Pete made me touch grass and die.

[jagged igloo]

the great unending calamity known as grapple worm

that’s a good one

[balmy falcon]

it still managed to throw a rock at you please

[quiet pilot]

How did you find your route? I can’t tell whether it’s more or less painful than going to Farm Arrays from Sky Islands

[jagged igloo]

finished a full run yday just need to learn depths route quicker (god it’s so fucking dark)

lizard positioning has been a lot kinder to me

something about that first day was just uncharacteristically bad even for rain world

I’m not great but I’m not nearly as bad as that made me look

[agile tulip]

i doubled back to chimney from sky islands because i didn't want to risk destroying my karma flower finding out if i could make the pounce on this screen

i am..... not good at pounces.......

[quiet pilot]

Ahhh I see! Fair! I just wormed my way across that section. The room a bit before that one was honestly the one that sucked the most for me ;-; (A02)

[balmy falcon]

nice

[agile tulip]

nearly the most inconvenient blue lizard of all time

[balmy falcon]

[agile tulip]

but yeah that'd work better than what i did, i mainly didn't want to fall into sky island pits anymore

[quiet pilot]

Haha, definitely. That and Blue lizards in Saint challenge……..

[balmy falcon]

are you allowed to rock them

just to stun them so you can run past

[agile tulip]

you can rock them, but if they fall into a pit because of it the blood is on YOUR hands

[quiet pilot]

Yeah. And yes, exactly 👆

Blues love to hang around the wall/exactly where I don’t need them

[balmy falcon]

yeah, true

[pseudo sorrel]

https://youtu.be/Tt6FE2um8FM

idk why but its really low quality

i can redo it with better quality, since im still kind of new with obs

[balmy falcon]

this is FS, not depths

for FS i kind of just copied the wr pebbles% routing

[dense geode]

oh 💀

i tend to just combine both of them sorry

[balmy falcon]

honestly fair, DS-FS gate to depths is like three rooms anyway

[dense geode]

well'

my advice for depths depths is backflip rolls constantly if you can

if you think you got enough room to backflip, try and do a roll

and pounce if you can

it helps

[balmy falcon]

okay out of curiosity

folks who have done scholar, how'd you get the deer pearl?

[dense geode]

patiences

and some more patience

anger

patience

[balmy falcon]

[dense geode]

i want to murder all rain deer in a 150k radius

[balmy falcon]

are you stuck waiting for deer, or are there spots you can throw the puff at to get them to come over?

[dense geode]

and more patience

well

for me, the strat that worked was carrying 3 gas apples

you use one to lure the deer over, but pick it up before it can nom it and jump on it antlers

then wait for it to go left

theres a certain block they dont like going past, but if you throw a gas apple over there they usually will go

then get the pearl, lure another deer over, and ride it back to the right

[balmy falcon]

they what

[dense geode]

this one

[balmy falcon]

... my god

[dense geode]

they really dont like going over it by themselves for some reason

at least for me they didnt

[quiet pilot]

Through great patience :))

[balmy falcon]

i see everyone loves this pearl

[dense geode]

anger*

[balmy falcon]

this is probably one of the main things stopping me from trying to go for scholar ngl

besides the time commitment

[dense geode]

i originally joined this server just to mald about it to timby, so yeah we all love that pearl here

[balmy falcon]

deer pearl just looks so painful

[jagged igloo]

where is the deer pearl

[dense geode]

hee

[balmy falcon]

beat me to it

[dense geode]

🐌

[balmy falcon]

that little block on the left

is where the pearl sits

[dense geode]

the floating one

[jagged igloo]

i see

[dense geode]

oh

[quiet pilot]

And the sometimes…. Everything goes perfectly….

[dense geode]

and vultures can go into that room too

[quiet pilot]

And then a vulture arrives 😭😭

[dense geode]

so get double fucked

yep

[balmy falcon]

[quiet pilot]

Or a blue lizard

[jagged igloo]

you cant even do the deer glitch to skip it all

[balmy falcon]

the what now

[quiet pilot]

And you’re sitting there with your hands full of spore puffs

[dense geode]

i never encountered one but ik one likes to lurk the room before

[jagged igloo]

theres a vanilla exploit that clips a rain deer into the ground and deactivates room objects like worm grass

[dense geode]

or squid flight either

[quiet pilot]

It only happened once I think. But it was so unjust it stuck with me forever

[dense geode]

since you have to carry the pearl back

[balmy falcon]

w

what

[jagged igloo]

couldnt you use the swap glitch to carry a pearl and squidcada at the same time

[dense geode]

i love how this games glitches are always silly things or somewhat gamebreaking. no in between

[dense geode]

possibly, but do you really wanna deal with a squidbitch on that tiny platform?

[quiet pilot]

https://youtu.be/4I6mwBz0mfQ

[jagged igloo]

definitely not lol

[balmy falcon]

i still don't understand how to do the swap glitch even after watching the tutorial linked in guardian

[dense geode]

same

[quiet pilot]

I’d recommend practising in arena!

That’s what I did. I still am not perfect but at least I could do it well enough for Guardian (and it helped with Devotee too :P)

[balmy falcon]

fair

i'm just not sure i understand what's happening

i stared at the input display for a while and was still confused

[quiet pilot]

Ah, so, you swap hands fast enough that it can occasionally pick up a two handed item simultaneously ^^

[balmy falcon]

dude what the fuck this is hilarious

[quiet pilot]

Also, my Devotee has finished rendering! ^^ https://youtu.be/njJRC9bIeAM

[balmy falcon]

[balmy falcon]

... huh

interesting

[quiet pilot]

I’d recommend watching people’s Guardian’s, it’ll help put it into perspective ^^

[balmy falcon]

is it somewhat random chance? like you just swap hands until it works?

yeah i probably should

i hate snails

but otherwise guardian looks doable

........................................................ wait

[quiet pilot]

Guardian would be very doable without the snail haha that’s the whole challenge

[balmy falcon]

how the fuck do you do farm arrays

[quiet pilot]

:))

[balmy falcon]

[quiet pilot]

I think I have footage of some of the nonsense that went down…..

[balmy falcon]

oh boy

can you put down the grapple worm and not have it ruin the glitch?

[quiet pilot]

Uh, I don’t think so?

[balmy falcon]

frick

[quiet pilot]

You’ll have to redo it

But I’m not completely sure, I am but an amateur of this trick lol

[balmy falcon]

i'm not dealing with deer without puffs

[quiet pilot]

Oh I used puffs

[balmy falcon]

yeah but you'd need a hand free wouldn't you?

[quiet pilot]

This is what I did a lot of the time

You can also have the worm stick to the raindeer and ride hanging under it, but 1) its very slow 2) you can't choose direction and 3) uh this happened to me

[toxic basin]

there's also a chance you might get put into worm grass

[balmy falcon]

that's interesting though

i guess it's all just strategy in the end

[dense geode]

hes back!!!

goober!

also who pinged me

[quiet pilot]

Did you lose him? 😮

[dense geode]

i had to restart

i forgot ot take a pic going through crypts to leg gate

but hes back now

[quiet pilot]

Oh did you check with one of the verifiers…?

[dense geode]

i got crypts first try too

[dense geode]

i asked grand

didnt get a straight answer. plus i had already sheltered by tthe time i realized

[quiet pilot]

I see I see. I’m sorry about that, that sucks! But well done on getting Goober(? If that’s his name) back ^^

[dense geode]

his name is goober because he is a bit too silly

[quiet pilot]

Silly Goober, leaps straight into battle with DLLs

[dense geode]

i havent gotten that far in the previous run but im sure he will

[quiet pilot]

It is the way of all cyans good luck with the leg when you get there!!

[dense geode]

im well aware how silly they can be

though goober behaved well in crypts when i went the first time so that was surprising

[cunning peak]

does anyone have a link to the drought mod?
i cant seem to find it anywhere

[dense geode]

you may have better luck in the modding channels

hell there may be a link to it in the modding releases or smth

[dense geode]

he really doesnt like my vulture mask

[steel compass]

When I want to do a playthrough of survivor and monk and do some challenges while doing them, but also I want to have downpour active for cool downpour stuff (not saying what cuz this is rw spoilers and idk how to spoiler on mobile)

So now I'm torn

[dense geode]

well, challenges will be denied if msc is even enabled

doesnt matter if you avoid all dp content]

[south mural]

Maybe do Expedition stuff first, or do custom challenges before DP releases for consoles so DP get allowed.

[steel compass]

I've already done everything in expedition

[south mural]

Maybe do custom challenge runs then?

Like:

Monk, but with a cyan friend through the entire game.

Survivor, but without ever using spears or rocks.

Hunter, but in 5 or less hibernations.

Gourmand, but without anything that progresses food quest.

Arti killess.

Rivulet campaign with Arti as player 1 by Jolly coop.

Spearmaster but you only eat popcorn and batflies.

Saint, but with all secrets.

[steel compass]

Hm, I think I'll just go for a regular run where I do challenges like descenscion (and maybe stuff like scholar if I'm bored)

And lizard taming etc

[dense geode]

what does this mean

what is it calculating

[balmy falcon]

calculus

it's a measure of how wide the range of responses to the difficulty is

[dense geode]

well i mean its doing some kinda function

[balmy falcon]

low variance means everyone had roughly the same thoughts on the difficulty

[dense geode]

im just wondering what

[balmy falcon]

high variance means people had very different ideas on how difficult it was

the 7.1 variance on martyr though

and 8.7 on usurper lmfao

[dense geode]

oh shit i just noticed something

does it have to be outskirts

[balmy falcon]

yeah

[south mural]

Yes, easy as Hunter tho

[balmy falcon]

if it specifies then yeah

[dense geode]

thats it

i give up of pilgrimage

[balmy falcon]

[dense geode]

bs challenge

as timby said its hard for all the wrong reasons

[dense geode]

has to be survivor

why is industrial not counted

its literally just past the gate is the spawns

thats like a small small portion of the journey

[shell island]

uhhhh submission image for Passages?

i think?

[south mural]

It has?

[dense geode]

pretty sure

at least all the proof ive seen shows survivor

im still fucking done with that shitty challenge

[south mural]

You do not need to do it as Surv

[dense geode]

im not doing it as hunter

[south mural]

It doesnt specify scugs at all

[dense geode]

when i have to babysit a toddler on limited cycles

thats hell

[south mural]

You have like 18 cycles to travel through 5 shelters without karma gates and with easy lineage and less DLL

[balmy falcon]

hard mode spawns though

[steel compass]

Memory crypts with a cyan lizard seems like absolute hell

[dense geode]

okay but more aggressive creatures that can just eat my cyan

[shell island]

memory crypts is easy

said it

[steel compass]

Trying to get that through without it dying

[south mural]

No???

[dense geode]

and not infinite cycles to gained lost karma due to a dumbass toddler jumping into the jaws of a red lziard or miro bird

[south mural]

You dont need karma at all

[dense geode]

im fucking mad

[steel compass]

By itself yeah, but having a cyan that can easily get eaten by miros birds makes it a lot harder

Entering pebbsi takes karma 5

[dense geode]

underhang to pebbles, outskirts to industrial, industrial to shaded

yes you do

not to mention

sometimes you can just get fucked over by the linegae system

[south mural]

SU>HI gate is easy, since you are at high karma after farming lineage.

HI>SH is easy bc of CC echo you can just take in one + starve cycle.

You can farm 4 cycles easily for UW>SS, or go 2 cycle up the wall for 2 echo bonuses.

[shell island]

wow i cant wait to get the Passages role

and hope its not an ugly color

[south mural]

What challenges did you do by now?

[shell island]

the Passages one

[dense geode]

this just screams extra unneeded stress

[south mural]

Visitor and Collector are easy starter challenges you could try out.

[south mural]

Perfect for a masochist like me

[dense geode]

then go be a masochist

im done with this shit

[quiet pilot]

I’m pretty sure youre allowed to karma cache for Pilgrimage ^^

[shell island]

i want a purple role but they're both so hard

[south mural]

Yeah, vanila exploits must be on

[twilit pumice]

https://youtu.be/dLV9_f0QAjM "the journey"

[shell island]

oh yeah theres a question i have

does journey have to be surv?

[south mural]

Yeah, not Hunter or Monk, and DP is not allowed

[dense geode]

if its allowed then maybe i will try it

[shell island]

i know dp isnt allowed

its in the rules

[dense geode]

but im getting mod confirmation first

im not doing it jsut to be told its invalid due to hunter

[quiet pilot]

I’d say Hunter probably not? But karma caching I’m almost certain

[south mural]

If there is nothing in rules stopping you, then creating rules out of thin air is unnecessary and just not really fair.

And there is nothing in rules stopping you

[dense geode]

im still going to make sure

[south mural]

Ok then i guess

[quiet pilot]

Oooh the sheet is being edited to put specific Slugcats!

It does have to surv for Pilgrimage (as it said before when I did it)

[shell island]

SURVIVOR FOR USURPER???

[quiet pilot]

Oh snap

[shell island]

is that possible???

[quiet pilot]

Lineage

[dense geode]

grand said no

[south mural]

Oh well

[shell island]

why are so many hunter

[south mural]

Where do you see which scugs are allowed?

[quiet pilot]

Me when I see Friend has to be Survivor but I asked around at the time if Hunter was okay and people said it was: 👀

[tranquil stream]

Ascension (36:56) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0A8dJ7gYjI

[south mural]

Thankfully did Friend before the change and it was allowed

[quiet pilot]

The spreadsheet

[tranquil stream]

witness me for this is my 20th submitted challenge!

[south mural]

No Challenger role?

[shell island]

yooooo

[tranquil stream]

who needs Challenger if you can have Ascended

[shell island]

hey wait

does floor collision fall damage mean anything?

[south mural]

???

[shell island]

like

why not just put fall damage

[dense geode]

is it possible to double spawn outskirts when starting a new file

just starve and will that work

[tranquil stream]

you can blast yourself into a wall

[south mural]

Collision damage is the name when you hit a surface at enough velocity, and can be done on walls

[shell island]

but does falling 3 screens count?

[tranquil stream]

sure it does

[balmy falcon]

surprisingly sometimes no

you need to learn crawl turn fast falling for descension

it's very easy though

[shell island]

as in not every region has 3 screen pit?

[balmy falcon]

yep, and also

the shaft into shaded citadel from industrial complex?

confusingly, you can live that fall

you absolutely need it for garbage wastes

[shell island]

and outskirts i think

[balmy falcon]

yeah i think so

sub is very doable without ctff, i think shoreline as well?

wall is as well, so exterior

[shell island]

sub was actually the first time i died of fall damage

[balmy falcon]

i think. farm arrays can be done without it too

ravine?

[shell island]

no

[balmy falcon]

damn, good for you

[shell island]

the pit before depths

[quiet pilot]

Centipede pit..?

[balmy falcon]

thought so

[dense geode]

why the fuck are they over here already

[quiet pilot]

Ohhh.

[balmy falcon]

anyhow, you need ctff for most regions

it's also just really funny to do

i did ctff in most regions

i think sub and drainage were the only two i didn't use it in

[shell island]

how do you do it

[balmy falcon]

https://rwtechwiki.github.io/docs/movement/crawlturnfastfall/

it is very easy

it's even sillier when you fall 3+ screens up with it

slugcat goes VERY fast

[short rover]

I should try descent

[balmy falcon]

descension is super fun and really not that hard once you know which rooms you're doing it in, i highly recommend it

[tranquil stream]

I spent 10 minutes learning a tech which involves pressing two buttons

[shell island]

if only it was purple

[balmy falcon]

i was the first one to do shoreline

i could not intentionally recreate this even if i were to try

[dense geode]

im gonan say yes to my own question. theres 6 greens 💀

[balmy falcon]

how tf did you do that

[dense geode]

double spawns

[balmy falcon]

i thought double spawning required gates and starving

[dense geode]

thanks

[dense geode]

well, i started fresh and instantly starved cycle'd

it seemed to have worked

[balmy falcon]

huh

[shell island]

the integrity of a challenge run when you have a 100% cosmetic mod:

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-kanyewest-yeezy-meme-gif-22503154

[balmy falcon]

it's permitted

explicitly

DMS is allowed

i did most of my challenges with a pebbles skin on

[dense geode]

i asked one of the staff if lizard and scav skin mods were cool and i got a confirm

so i can use that if they deny it

[shell island]

clown dll is cosmetic

[balmy falcon]

it kind of isn't

[tranquil stream]

it has sound

[balmy falcon]

cause you can hear it off screen

[dense geode]

yea its the noises that isnt allowed

same as metal pipe spear and scav thud

the sounds can give a hint as to whats in a room before you screen transition

[balmy falcon]

i've unironically used clown rot as an accessibility feature for this specific reason

so it makes sense that it's banned

[quiet pilot]

Ahhhhh I think I just got Mother on like, my third full attempt!!!! My heart was racing there (I only recorded for like 30 minutes, wow I’m all jittery that was intense)

[tranquil stream]

Holy...

It took me about 6 hours

And I choked hard some of attempts

[verbal mural]

damn you beat me, took me 4 attempts

also congrats lol

how close are you to ascended? ive seen you submit a lot of challenges

[quiet pilot]

Thank you!!! I worry I’ve miscounted and don’t deserve the credit haha (I did several short ones where I went “nope that’s definitely not fast enough” or “shit, no spears”, but did at least two ones where I kept going until the rain came)

[quiet pilot]

One away now!

[verbal mural]

nice!!

I’ve been doing them mostly in reverse difficulty first as well and now that I’m close to the end it's fantastic lol

[quiet pilot]

I’m probably gonna take a break after ascended and get back to Expedition-ing and doing the Sandbox challenges ^^

[balmy falcon]

i'm just doing the ones i think i'm going to have fun with

i'm not that attached to having ascended

champions though, hell yeah

[tranquil stream]

70 hours from zero to hero

[balmy falcon]

yeah they really do

i finished all the downpour stuff first, and then got into doing challenges

[tranquil stream]

Not counting base game experience and downpour

[balmy falcon]

it's probably stacked another hundred hours onto my time

[tranquil stream]

No regrets

[balmy falcon]

hey i'd say ascension isn't pointless

[tranquil stream]

It is fun

[balmy falcon]

people getting into speedrunning just for a role color

[tranquil stream]

They tricked me into speedrunning tho

Sneaky

[balmy falcon]

ascension was actually the first challenge i tried going for

not officially, i was sort of just trying to see how fast i could go

but then i realized it was one and got into it more earnestly

and then i got sidetracked

[shell island]

I did one challenge so far

[verbal mural]

getting 50k hunter run for the hell of it and challenge of it
getting it for the 50k club role

[shell island]

Get 1mil hunter run

[verbal mural]

lmao

see you in 10 years when I camp in five pebbles eating his brain for all eternity

[shell island]

Lmao

[balmy falcon]

[shell island]

I just want a purple role tbh

[balmy falcon]

journey is purple i think

[shell island]

Cant do

[balmy falcon]

so is usurper but uh

guardian's lavender

[shell island]

Mmmm

[balmy falcon]

journey's not bad tbh

especially if you grab a vulture mask beforehand

[shell island]

What does it look like

[shell island]

On a username

[balmy falcon]

guardian's pretty hard though

yeah i'm trying to see if anyone has it

doesn't seem like it

there's also feast, which is significantly easier, but that's pink

looks like that

[shell island]

Sadge

I dont know how to uhhh

Words

Do journey?

[verbal mural]

found someone with guardian role

[shell island]

But i know how to get it

I guess i dont know the route for journey

[tranquil stream]

Check other people runs

[verbal mural]

room by room route or region by region?

[shell island]

Room by room
For regions id do
Wall
Chimney
Indus
Outskirt
Drainage
Filtration

[verbal mural]

i can draw up a shitty map of the room by room for each region then

[quiet pilot]

Journey is good!! I think that’s a nice one to try ^^ you can use Wild’s save with a vulture mask already and bubbleweed in your tum

[shell island]

Wait wuh

[quiet pilot]

Visions is also very good as a warm up to Journey

[balmy falcon]

yeah i agree

[verbal mural]

i'll start in cc cause i assume you know where to go through the wall?

[shell island]

How do i get visions

[balmy falcon]

okay that is a terrible crop