Might look into some optimization mods
#minecraft rainworld server real
ashen moon
196 is quite a lot?
hidden coyote
Large would be 356
ashen moon
usually you want to keep it around 100 for a multiplayer server
hidden coyote
Like project ozone 3 is a large one
reef dock
uhh curse forge?
the installer was built into prism (the program I used for steam deck, which is linux)
hidden coyote
Po3 runs well for me
Im just thinking
Ima probably get a friend and ask them for assistance
ashen moon
modded honestly runs kinda poorly at some point or another no matter what you do
my endgame E2:E base averaged like 30fps
ashen moon
true lol
reef dock
or 5 xd
ashen moon
I imagine a server might take some of the load off the clients though
(so maybe minor improvements idk)
ashen moon
(and other jokes you can tell yourself 
)
reef dock
solution, get a good pc
ashen moon
my PC isn't even bad man :(
reef dock
I will flex my steam deck
fiery spear
solution: break into the local shitcoin farm and liberate one of the fancy gpus
reef dock
cpu limited
fiery spear
break into nasa and steal their super cpus
reef dock
but hey you can now run shaders better, probably
ashen moon
i7 11800h isn't a bad CPU right?
reef dock
idk
ashen moon
guh
hidden coyote
You guys are welcome to test btw
ashen moon
this game I swear wants everything from me
reef dock
just slightly bigger than ftb presents crackpack
ashen moon
my GPU is sitting around doing nothing lmao
reef dock
the first and only mod pack I completed
ashen moon
(rip mindcrack 
)
reef dock
and it was all on this lil school laptop
I still have the save on dropbox, but its corrupted
hidden coyote
The pack will have 198 mods at this point
@ashen moon can you try to get the pie chart to show up with the f3 menu
ashen moon
ah alright, I should just leave the game running at this point lol
hidden coyote
Im gonna have to call you later forth
This whole thing can help just
Im going to use you as the baseline for this experiment if thats ok
Basically trying to like
Figure out what's consuming what wtc
Etc*
ashen moon
pie chart atm
(it's really small for some reason)
anyways, nothing looks out of the ordinary tbh
hidden coyote
You have 87 frames????
Wtf
Why is it running smoothly now i
Wtf minecraft what is this
ashen moon
Heavily depends on the PC
ashen moon
well, there's a lot of micro stuttering, but the framerate is fine
also, chunks struggle to generate, but I guess that's normal for modded
as long as you pregenerate the server that would be a non issue
hmm, actually returning to spawn now it is much better
I guess it just needed some time to generate the world
hidden coyote
Hm. I think im going to have to either trim / add optimization mods
Figure out what is consuming what etc
ocean umbra
fiery spear
influx waver!!!! 
hearty spoke
milk fish
hidden coyote
Im just guhhh
I need to figure out whats lagging etc
I think optimization mods are in order
ocean umbra
I need to figure out whats lagging etc
i would help but i'm smacking people with a fish at the moment
fiery spear
tf2 reference!!!!!!
lunar salmon
Wth terraria
hidden coyote
Im just guhhh
hidden coyote
Possibly
ivory forge
I hope I can get the modpack running properly soon
hidden coyote
I do appologise for any frustration
hidden coyote
will continue to work on tommorow
also figured out a way to balance out temp pad
please let me know how this runs when possible
i would love to figure out what mods shitting itself
or what cluster of mods on and on
i added this
which ill have to figure out how to work
if anyone else wants to use it to check
fiery spear
the zip is incompatible with multimc
fiery spear
can't import it
hidden coyote
ok but WHY
do you know why at all
because im flabbergasted
i do not know anything about multimc so best bet is to use uh
curse forge
fiery spear
it could be that i'm experiencing the classic "end user super dumbassery" disease
hidden coyote
???
hidden coyote
i just
want to know whats lagging the pack
is it the amount of mods
is it
just
a mod???
i just
aguuuhghhghg
its p a i n
@storm egret
fiery spear
what loader do you use
fiery spear
launcher
fiery spear
yeah it'
hidden coyote
what is KILLING me is i dont think its the amount of mods
i think its one specific mod not playing nicely
fiery spear
multimc is incompatible with curseforge zips according to a reddit post from september
hidden coyote
but i cant find anything in the logs because im unsure of how to read these
what
i-
why-
that-
then youll have to use curseforge
this ALSO
might be why @ashen moon @ivory forge @ocean umbra
storm egret
<@500833115691024384>
hi.
hidden coyote
are having preformance issues
when you opened the pack
what did you use
curseforge?
storm egret
let me try again
hidden coyote
please try running the current pack
and please report to me your FPS
with f3
because im just
flabbergasted
fiery spear
hidden coyote
cause if runnning it in like
fiery spear
it has modrinth support
storm egret
its 1.18 right
hidden coyote
curseforge fixes this problem
fiery spear
1.18.2
hidden coyote
1.18.2
storm egret
hidden coyote
?
storm egret
hidden coyote
wh
what are you using
im asking if you can use specifically curseforge to run the packl
storm egret
atlauncher
fiery spear
is that atlauncher
storm egret
curseforge sux
fiery spear
oh i remember that
hidden coyote
jesus christ how many different launchers are there now guhhh
all i know is i run it on curseforge im not getting major like
FPS issues
storm egret
hmm
hidden coyote
also why does curseforge suck
like i keep hearing this but
thats it
just
it sucks
nothing else
fiery spear
iirc it might have crypto miner stuff in it
fiery spear
i saw in a few places that it has that or ads everywhere one of the two
storm egret
you can only use it for world of warcraft on linux
they are also the reason launchers cant auto download some mods from curseforge
its to "encourage" users to use their launcher
hidden coyote
they are also the reason launchers cant auto download some mods from curseforge
that SUCKS
i dont know what else i can do since ive made it ON curseforge
as this is just
what ive always used since it was like
simple
wi have no clue if curseforge put something in it that
makes...it run slower
on other packs..
storm egret
fiery spear
there's a "mods" folder somewhere in the minecraft instance
storm egret
time to test
fiery spear
you can probably drag the mods folder and the config folder into a zip
storm egret
yeah all you need is config and mods folders
fiery spear
and also forge
hidden coyote
storm egret
most mc launchers except the vanilla one let you create a forge pack
storm egret
how much ram do u have allocated to mc
hidden coyote
10
storm egret
oh
hidden coyote
but it should run fine
storm egret
how much ram does your computer have
storm egret
try not to allocate too much ram, no more than 7gb
fiery spear
gotta fucking install some overwolf bullshit just to import the pack without downloading all the mods manually
hidden coyote
i fucking hate
storm egret
java gets funky when given too much ram
storm egret
use atlauncher its ez
fiery spear
i was under the impression that feedthebeast was not owned by a super mega conglomerate
hidden coyote
yes
fiery spear
ooh the dragon mod
storm egret
sick
storm egret
once that and wyrmroost update to 1.19 im finally making my dream modpack
hidden coyote
and more planned to be added
i kinda want this to become the official rain world mc server
but like
i cant even figure out whats causing people lag and its driving me mad
never had this issue with fabric
storm egret
lucky for u i do this shit all the time
storm egret
forge is slow and clunky as a whole
fabric is much more modern
both have so many good mods
hidden coyote
fabric does not have many mods is the problem though
that i know of at least
and most players here wanted to be on forge
storm egret
theres rumours of a compatibility layer coming out sometime in the future, but its really hard to make
hidden coyote
?
try using curseforge
and let me know how the pack runs on that
please
because i stg if curseforge implemented something so that if i make a pack with it and put it in other loaders
and it explicitly slows it down
ocean umbra
and let me know how the pack runs on that
i used cure last time but sure
hidden coyote
here
storm egret
is it the same pack u pinged me abt the other day
hidden coyote
no
storm egret
o
storm egret
time to redownload
hidden coyote
which did u download
does it say 4
if you downloaded four
then ur good
#1083101832819257344 message this one
hidden coyote
ping me when theres a new one and i can pin em
thank you
im trying to also get help from my other fren
who made a 1.12 modpack
and ive worked with em before
good modpack but also like
super brutal
TAN no natural healing on and on
ocean umbra
hmm it takes forever to load
fiery spear
cosmic
find the .minecraft folder for your modpack and
zip up the mods and the config folders
hidden coyote
i need to sleep
fiery spear
then send it here if it's less than 8mb
hidden coyote
except i can run this just fine
like
if i have to cut back on mods sure
thats entirely fine by me
ocean umbra
@hidden coyote
hidden coyote
i-
why is
that
i
whaty
im
im going to head to sleep
i cant find the file and ive been up all night
fiery spear
you can't find the .minecraft folder?
fiery spear
the mods folder is empty?
ocean umbra
it worked
hidden coyote
@storm egret if you think its the amount of mods what would improve performance while keeping a good amount of content
like what would you say to cut
storm egret
ill have a look through the files in a bit but youd want to cut things that add a ton of recipes, biomes etc.
ocean umbra
<@500833115691024384> if you think its the amount of mods what would improve per...
sky factory runs fine for me and i dont think 8 more mods is that big of a difrence
hidden coyote
ill have a look through the files in a bit but youd want to cut things that add ...
it might be biomes
if thats the case ill pull back on some biomes
cause i have a..lot of biomes...
storm egret
oh yeah
hidden coyote
i wanted alot to explore
storm egret
terralith and byg are a good combo
storm egret
i have beef with bop 
storm egret
the devs are smelly
storm egret
um ill check
storm egret
im getting 30fps and a lot of stuttering
ocean umbra
@hidden coyote
hidden coyote
and the fourth mod
ocean umbra
this is playable
storm egret
pendorite is added by byg
storm egret
ocean umbra
ocean umbra
ye
hidden coyote
i-
hidden coyote
we have hurricanes 🙂
ivory forge
I'm gonna try to play the modpack again
If it crashes again I just won't be surprised
hidden coyote
ur going to die in the fucking storm
storm egret
weather2 got updated?????
ocean umbra
fps does not fall below twenty so it is playable for me
storm egret
im gonna cry
hidden coyote
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-3000years-gif-12110509
also
guess what
||go eat a chorus fruit at the bedrock layer||
trust me
storm egret
yippe yipee yupe
hidden coyote
also do we want tinkerers or tetra
fiery spear
what's tetra
ocean umbra
ok its a stable 35 to 60
hidden coyote
im going to head to sleep
but please try removing biomes o plenty
and this
i need to sleep
ive been up for a whilke
storm egret
@ivory forge try using atlauncher or curseforge or gdlauncher
anything but the vanilla one
ocean umbra
its playable now at least
fiery spear
or multimc
hidden coyote
<@806660452359995443> try using atlauncher or curseforge or gdlauncher
anything ...
ty btw
fiery spear
but
ivory forge
<@806660452359995443> try using atlauncher or curseforge or gdlauncher
anything ...
Well I am using curseforge
fiery spear
unfortunately
you gotta download all the mods manually
hidden coyote
like i want to add more challenge to the pack
storm egret
i can send a zip with the mods
fiery spear
is it compressed to be under 8 mb?
storm egret
does it have to be
hidden coyote
discord wont let you upload it if it isnt
fiery spear
iirc discord doesn't like files over 8mb
ivory forge
does this show why it's crashing?
storm egret
i have a 500mb limit so
fiery spear
ocean umbra
also i have encountered a problem the ars tree does not spawn naturally in the new biomes
west citrus
imagine me roling up in THIS
ivory forge
I just can't deal with this anymore.
it's frustrating me
little dove
Hii
ivory forge
Hi fruit
opal stream
i did not break the rules last time i played minecraft with the rain world server
little dove
How's the mod test
ivory forge
How's the mod test
it takes forever to load for me and then crashes before I get to open a world
ocean umbra
How's the mod test
its playable at least
ivory forge
it works for everyone else though!
little dove
Hell I don't know how to survive without optifine
ocean umbra
arctic island
ivory forge
the bloodline will end with me anyway
storm egret
there seems to be an overpopulation of water bears
ivory forge
good to see this is literally only a problem for me
storm egret
oh avian how much ram do you have allocated to minecraft
ivory forge
7200mb
west citrus
wait
storm egret
holy shit theres bears falling from the sky
west citrus
you got 7k to yours
storm egret
i have 6112gb allocated
ivory forge
wtf
ivory forge
oh okay
storm egret
i WISH it was gb
ivory forge
can you even have that much ram
storm egret
yummy data centre
little dove
If you work at nasa
storm egret
my fiance has 64gb
little dove
Steal em
storm egret
shes crazy
reef dock
im gonna test it to, btw I have 8gb assigned to it to prevent any java weirdness when you have too much ram
reef dock
progress: slow internet
reef dock
iirc discord doesn't like files over 8mb
tier 3 boosted server has a 100 mb limit :)
reef dock
you can only use it for world of warcraft on linux
prism launcher on steam os (which is basicly linux) supports curseforge zips
ok the mod 'oh the biomes you'll go' is not working now
reef dock
<@253294467015114756>
now im getting this error
reef dock
it worked
what did you do tho!
and why is this chat only active when I should be asleep :(
ocean umbra
what did you do tho!
nothing it just worked the next time
reef dock
well it didnt work
reef dock
o k after 5 relaunches it worked
ooo skin editor thats new
and its way more completed than I thought
work fine
ivory forge
yay I am the only person who can't get it to work!!!!!
reef dock
yay I am the only person who can't get it to work!!!!!
hey try deleting the config folder!
then relaunching the game several times
(you did get the error that mentions 'oh the biomes you'll go' right?
ivory forge
(you did get the error that mentions 'oh the biomes you'll go' right?
it won't even load the game so I don't know
reef dock
f
ivory forge
okay I'm gonna listen to roundabout while I try to get this working
nevermind I guess
It's gonna do this every time
reef dock
uhhh
try the prism launcher, works great for me
it doesnt go through the mojang launcher
when you get to add instance, install with zip
ivory forge
oh
ivory forge
when you get to add instance, install with zip
yeah I knew how to do that
ivory forge
woah
reef dock
and it will scan the downloads folder and install them from there
ivory forge
fuck you prism launcher
reef dock
a
ivory forge
Where do I even get java 17
reef dock
oh ya prism has java built in
on steam os i mean
I guess you can try disabling java compat check
ivory forge
okay I got java17
reef dock
that was fast
reef dock
that looks right
ivory forge
NEVER
MIND
ivory forge
what
reef dock
alright
I guess you go to the root minecraft folder and just delete it, start from scratch, (move your saves and resource pack out first ofc)
ivory forge
I just don't even want to fuck with this anymore
reef dock
fair
hidden coyote
Hell I don't know how to survive without optifine
We should have a version in the modpack that works as optifine but isnt optifine
Im. Just waking uo
hidden coyote
holy shit theres bears falling from the sky
I have not a clue why
hidden coyote
@storm egret how well did it run when removing BOP and the other thingy
hidden coyote
@ivory forge dont beat urself up minecraft mods can be frustrating
Ima be working more on it tonight
These things take time
ocean umbra
also can you think of a solution to the ars trees not spawning in the modified biomes? @hidden coyote
hidden coyote
Find normal biomes
But also once i cutdown on two biome gen mods it should be easier
ocean umbra
Find normal biomes
i literally found 3 woodland mansion before giving up after 4 hours of flying in creative and i dont think there was a single not modded biome that i entered
hidden coyote
Wh
Wuh
Yeah im going to cut back on two biome genners which should help you
Im used to working with fabric and 1.12 forge
1.18 isnt too different but
Normally this combo of mods tends to be fine
But i might be thinking of within fabric
storm egret
<@500833115691024384> how well did it run when removing BOP and the other thingy
didnt have time to check i fell asleep lol
i can test more today
hidden coyote
i can test more today
if you can would be greatly appreciated
ocean umbra
@hidden coyote also do we have any mod that helps with item recovery on death?
fiery spear
/gamerule keepItems true
ocean umbra
/gamerule keepItems true
or that
fiery spear
the reason terraria is the GOAT is that you only go broke if you die
hidden coyote
<@253294467015114756> also do we have any mod that helps with item recovery on d...
corrail tombstone
your stuffs held in a grave when you die
get to ur grave get ur stuff
and its a new magic system
fiery spear
@hidden coyote do you think you can bundle the config/mods folders into a single zip and send it to like dropbox or google drive so that people don't have to manually download all those mods
if they're not using curseforge
ocean umbra
also can anyone explain to me what is wrong with curseforge?
fiery spear
it's owned by overwolf
ocean umbra
and?
fiery spear
filled with trackers and stuff
ocean umbra
and?
ocean umbra
and doesn't like other launchers
that one is true but i at least never had a ram problem with it
hidden coyote
<@253294467015114756> do you think you can bundle the config/mods folders into a...
i dont use either of these
fiery spear
💥
storm egret
use atlauncher it auto downloads eveyrthing (mosty stuff)
oh also i started a
singleplayer world
and apparently i am unable to take any damage whatsoever
ocean umbra
and apparently i am unable to take any damage whatsoever
?
storm egret
i am immortal
fiery spear
just like scp's omega-k "end of death" scenario
reef dock
you are a satellite
hidden coyote
and apparently i am unable to take any damage whatsoever
wh-
what
uh
can you call?
like in a bit
no rush more so like
im just flabber gasted rn cause like
one bug gets fixed
just somehow
then another appears
then it gets fixed
rinse repeat
storm egret
uh im a lil uncomfy with vcs (+ im busy like. all day lol)
i think mines just a Me Problem
hidden coyote
i think mines just a Me Problem
entirely understandable
ty for letting me know
im just
guh
i really am confused to wtf is going on
like ima trim some stuff off
see how it plays then
hidden coyote
ima nap then continue wokring onthis
storm egret
the best way to make a modpack is to find the Core™️ mods you want to base your pack around
yknow like
medieval? tech? exploration?
do you want your pack to be balanced, easy, or RLCraft-style unforgiving?
its not as easy as throwing hundreds of mods together 😭
best case scenario, you just have to cut out some content to make everything fit nicely
worst case scenario, you ask for the source code and edit the mod itself to be better
storm egret
nova basin
is there a minecraft server up yet for here?
storm egret
im making my own modpack im going insane
fiery spear
and like a cell
it grows and mutates fracturing and multiplying
there are twenty thousand modpacks and a million more along the way
all hail the super modpack computer thingy
hidden coyote
im heading to sleep
but will be waking up way earlire
nad working on modpack then
little dove
nad working on modpack then
hidden coyote
@storm egret in refrence to damage
did you die
then try to take damage
if so
corrail makes you into a ghost upon death
to allow for the like
rush to get to ur stuff
as long as you dont hit anything ur good
and nothing can hit you
moment you do any action though you will become material again
proud oracle
craggy mist
cosmic how
proud oracle
i think they replied to me but that message got deleted by dyno 
craggy mist
proud oracle
yeah in my inbox
it said
"nukes you"
the battle continues between cosmic and dyno
hidden coyote
i stg
when i was born
i must have specced into some fucking tree
i have adhd 10 or something
like litterally particle accelerator of energy
and as socially blind as a bat
i stg
storm egret
<@500833115691024384> in refrence to damage
no, its been like that since i spawned in
havent had the chance to replicate it
hidden coyote
no, its been like that since i spawned in
havent had the chance to replicate it
that
huh
i have to wonder if its a benign bug then
just happens but rejoining fixes it
storm egret
did you accidentally start in creative mode
nope
proud oracle
legalize me punching yoyr face bruh
fiery spear
hidden coyote
and another one
also
@fiery spear
@ashen moon
try running this pack
let me know how it goes
fiery spear
is that all the mods or just a list of them
storm egret
weather2 also affecrs performance severely
storm egret
however you can disable visual effects on the client
hidden coyote
weather2 also affecrs performance severely
to my knowledge uh
the new one is alot better on that actually
i think at least
its tornados that produced a shit ton of lag
but also that
i want the weather mod for rain mostly
fiery spear
atlauncher :chad:
curseforge :soyjak:
holy shit lmao it's true
curseforge really doesn't like other 3rd party launchers
hidden coyote
bro
i hate that
so much
because its fucking
dividing actual players
on what loaders are used
because like
i used curseforge cause thats just
the most known one
its just what i used
i had no idea of this stupid bullshit
like bro wtf
what weird gatekeepy shit is this man
hidden coyote
u can only download our mods on here
fiery spear
it can nab all but these
hidden coyote
and you can manually download those right
hidden coyote
pack seems to be running faster with those 3 removed
fiery spear
and thanks to the power of atlauncher i can easily export this instance to multimc 
627 MB
💥
hidden coyote
yeah im
getting 60 FPS now
@ivory forge if youd like try running this now
?
@little dove
you too
proud oracle
hidden coyote
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/291185557789343744/1086464054916300860/...
me
proud oracle
hidden coyote
yipee
yeah im
not experiencing any stuttering
@storm egret when u can let me know how it runs for u now
storm egret
yeah atlauncher is great
you just download the mods into ur downloads folder and it auto moves them into the correct directory
storm egret
its just an extra few clicks
storm egret
<@500833115691024384> when u can let me know how it runs for u now
ok if i have time ill look into it
tomorrow is busy
fiery spear
atlauncher is still as good as the last time i used it 
fiery spear
you can't say that! this is a christian minecraft server!
hidden coyote
its this moss thing
fiery spear
say nether
fiery spear
hidden coyote
???????
fiery spear
atlauncher console
severe coralBOT
hidden coyote
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/573192221164044290/1084340641246490674/ha...
why did it
atlauncher
consoke
console
severe coralBOT
severe coralBOT
fiery spear
?bat
hidden coyote
why
fiery spear
misc chat is getting invaded by bats
errant ibex
proud oracle
awesome
errant ibex
?bat
hidden coyote
yeah pack seems to be running much faster
errant ibex
?rat
fiery spear
ok i get around 50 fps standing on the ground
fiery spear
?bat
proud oracle
?bat
fiery spear
?bat
fiery spear
?bat
fiery spear
ok i think we should stop
hidden coyote
ok i get around 50 fps standing on the ground
so much better then before?
fiery spear
i haven't played it before 💥
hidden coyote
GUH
remove moss and monsters anyone who starts pack after this
@ashen moon
you here??
ashen moon
oh sorry my bad, I was busy with modding
hidden coyote
what modding
ashen moon
RW modding lol
ashen moon
yeah I'll get on it, one sec
proud oracle
?snek
fiery spear
cheese
severe coralBOT
fiery spear
?cheese
severe coralBOT
proud oracle
:snek
ashen moon
they removed snek? :(
errant ibex
they removed snek? :(
check misc
ashen moon
wtf
fiery spear
ok maybe fabric is a better idea cause this is taking for freakin ever to load the modpack
ashen moon
fabric has way fewer mod options, though maybe that's not a bad thing
this is the uh, mc server chat
obviously
snow plank
misc-chat moment
fiery spear
i am reminded that creation engine games have a maximum of 256 mods
snow plank
wowowwo
proud oracle
?bat
snow plank
misc is fine
hidden coyote
ok maybe fabric is a better idea cause this is taking for freakin ever to load t...
it should be running better
also modpacks generally take a bit to load
fabric or forge
plus if we swap to fabric
no tinkerers
fiery spear
oh yeah i forgot
hidden coyote
along with other thing
modpacks in forge in GENERAL take a bit to load
whats your load time RN
fiery spear
i'm in but it took a few mins
hidden coyote
Yeah thats normal
ive never seen a forge pack ever take more then a few minutes
plus if i can get this optimized then
good
ivory forge
<@806660452359995443> if youd like try running this now
what
hidden coyote
ive removed some mods
that seems to have improved performance
try running it now if youd like
and remove moss and monster
ivory forge
I'm gonna reinstall minecraft
fiery spear
use a different launcher like atlauncher or multimc
hidden coyote
like im not getting any stuttering at all now
so what im thinking is happening is the mods we had in just
bad coding or
just dont play nice with one another
and if a majority can start running it with no problems then
we can move on to putting it on a server
lunar salmon
Console
severe coralBOT
lunar salmon
Awesome
snow plank
lunar salmon
Chomse
snow plank
lunar salmon
Cheese
severe coralBOT
hidden coyote
why are people scared of gregtech
hidden coyote
yeah pack seems to
be running quite well now
and if it runs well for others then
good
fiery spear
yeah it's playable
fiery spear
although it does kinda stutter when making new chunks
hidden coyote
thats just mc in general
i think
plus you dont have to worry bout that on a server
think thatgets handled server side at that point
also @ocean umbra
trees spawn now
fiery spear
oh it's beautiful
hidden coyote
ive noticed blossom woods are
spawning a ton
i dont know why
they do seem to be just
large
fiery spear
you can probably tweak the gen values
hidden coyote
also just imagine how winds are gonna be
i cant wait to see peoples reaction to the first hurricane in game
also possibly super storm
since i might make events that revolve around that
just IMMENSE wind and rain
ivory forge
okay whenever the game is done downloading I'll test it
hidden coyote
that last for days
fiery spear
when the weather is inclement!!!!
ivory forge
?rat
ivory forge
oooh I can ghost rat