whenever i fall instead of getting teleported back up like the mod is supposed to, it makes me stop existing without a game over screen, the only way i can fix this is to just pause and exit
#game freezes when getting teleported back with pit respawn on
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raven sand
Oh heck, there's the thread.
Yea, I had this issue while doing initial testing. Would you mind also sending an OutputLog from the same directory?
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sorry for not replying earlier, yes let me send it, it may be different since i have installed the eyebrow raise mod, though it doesnt affect this mod in question in any way as far as i know
raven sand
There's nothing useful I can glean from this log.
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oh well
kind halo
@storm mural (hi nacu) looks like a riocspear issue
storm mural
whenever i fall instead of getting teleported back up like the mod is supposed t...
i think i fixed the issue in an update to rico spear, could you see if it still breaks?
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well i cant since all mods have ceased function now 
storm mural
oh noo 😭
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i dont even know what to do anymore, i made another post about the issue here
i will try uninstalling and reinstalling rain world itself if the issue still persists, i have tried.. everything 
..it works now.. thank goodness.. i had too much stress from this.. 
ok scratch that, it seems to be some sort of mod causing the issue of them all to not work
found the mod that ruins everything, its artis cookbook 
storm mural
@calm root fix yo game
storm mural
..it works now.. thank goodness.. i had too much stress from this.. <:hunterkek:...
glad it works tho :))
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ok now this is very fucking odd, i had the moment to test the cliff teleport thing it still happens, do i need to remove the rico spear mod or do i have a faulty copy of this mod 
what is this
nonsense
to give information i accidentaly fell because a cyan lizard dropkicked me into the abyss
in the underhang
raven sand
You need to disable RicoSpear, maaaybe even uninstall it and test.
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hmm, let me do that then
raven sand
Quick unrelated vent: I’ve been working on a patch to try and get PitRespawn working a lil’ smoother, and now it just deletes items in certain locations. x .x;;
I need to work on debugging that behavior, but if something pops up and it’s because of PR, it might be a bit before I can fix it.
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i would rather lose my items than lose myself when falling and getting teleported back
it still happens
well
uninstalling rico spear time
first was disabling
now its uninstalling
still happens
raven sand
hii
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lol
raven sand
Are you getting anything in the ExceptionLog, then?
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i can share it right now
though i had one of the unexpected crashes when sheltering that dont impact me that much
i assume you know how to difirentiate issues so im just gonna send it over
raven sand
oh frick that’s a lot
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yeah, my 31 active mods tend to make that each load
raven sand
Have you disabled any out of date mods?
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no not any out of date i have
just the arti cookbook
the one that if enabled causes me to not play the game
storm mural
feature not a bug
raven sand
true anarchy lies in the game crashing on boot
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yeah thats why i dont make a fuss on the game crashing when i go shelter
since it still saves
at best it even lets me refresh some of the mods
storm mural
thats still not good..
raven sand
Skimming through the log, UnlockedSaint is the source of pretty much every one of these NREs.
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lol
storm mural
lmao
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let me disable it to see the difference
raven sand
Disable that one and do some more debugging. :V
It's going to be a biiiig back n' forth.
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i have been through worse..
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anyways that crash seems to happen at basicly whenever it wants after some cycles
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and also when i do the rotund world food add or subtract
either purposed or accidental
at any time during the shelter doors closing
raven sand
That's... something you should probably bug that developer about.
storm mural
😭
storm mural
anyways that crash seems to happen at basicly whenever it wants after some cycle...
maybe its like a memory leak or something, or a dictionary that never gets cleared
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its because of joar probably
raven sand
Can we start a campaign to send daily messages at Andrew to change the default BepInEx logging settings?
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rain world's programmer
raven sand
Have a good tea! :o
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~~Can we start a campaign to send daily messages at Andrew to change the default...
it feels better now after one of the updates idk why, maybe it was changed a bit
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thanks
raven sand
Oo
storm mural
tee :)
raven sand
At least that's something
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yeah
it was infuriating before like version 1.9.04 i think, then i didnt have the issues i had before. that might have been coincidental tho
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holy the sunset is looking more moody than anything i have seen before outside my window
storm mural
:o must be a nice vibe
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yeah it would be more pretty if it wasnt for the big building hiding most of the view
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its starting to set here too but its a very normal one
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sick
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but not too much
the right ammount of pastel
the tea is delicious too
and good for my sore throat that i gained from a cold
okay now on the debugging
i have no clue on how i should induce that random crash bug to find out
storm mural
turn up the games speed to like 3x in remix settings and turn on devtools so you can just sleep and sleep and sleep
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is the game speed optional or is it to attempt and speed up the potential memory leak
storm mural
just so you dont waste as much time
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there is the dev tools s for game speed increase
storm mural
i guess yeah
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i have went through 5 sleeps and nothing has come up yet
managed to get saint on the artificer expedition that i have chosed to just use since im already on it
i believe that nothing is still happening
raven sand
Maybe so. :o
What mods were disabled, again?
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arti cookbook (the one i have disabled prior to all of this since it has caused me a permanent lock out of every game and mod config)
and the unlocked saint
which seems to be the cause of most issues within the exeption logs
10 sleep sleeps
nothing
storm mural
💥
raven sand
Time to bug that dev about it. 
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oh my gog you have your own emojis
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yeah its wondsip
and here is mine 
by the way
unrellated topic
who made the character pack and posted it on raindb
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zandra iirc
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but they like did some bad stuff i dont remember and got deleted from existance
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bruh
do you think someone might port it to workshop
or is it still only theirs to have on the now unusable raindb
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nah (it was kinda mid anyway lol)
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or is it still only theirs to have on the now unusable raindb
no clue
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tbh the only one in the character pack worth downloading worth was the psychic cat
raven sand
It was dependant on Rusty Machine, which itself claims that it has been superseded by SlugBase.
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dam
raven sand
I barely touched the old modding stuff. 
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storm mural
this is where i post from
raven sand
Felt a lil' too janky; even compared to deleting META-INF files or the like.
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hmm
no wonder it was called the rustymachine
like holding a calculator next to an iterator
raven sand
yea looked up Zandra in the server search and 😬
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gone?
raven sand
You can look them up in the message search.
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general or where
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raven sand
This would be my call to action to say that, if you really do miss those lost Slugcats, you can recreate what you loved with Slugbase and the v1.9 APIs.
Get to experience the modding hell we do. 
(And Slugbase looks leagues easier to use, since it has JSON files as a base to work off of)
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oops thanks steam
There's SlugBase's documentation, mess around with all the features that you can modify with SlugBase alone.
Once you've got a good handle on that and made your first batch of lil' test creatures, look into the Rain World Wiki's modding section and follow the tutorial for setting up a BepInEx mod.
https://rainworldmodding.miraheze.org/wiki/BepInPlugins
They go through all of the boilerplate and why it's necessary.
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alright
raven sand
That was my shill for making mods. We whine about bugs, but it really is so fun that we keep making them.
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but to even start im gonna have to go from to somewhat 
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where do i even start is my question
open saffron
still not spawning from pits on occasion and even in a normal pipe transition (more often than I ever fall - this makes it unusable)
couldn't catch the pipe softlock in this test, but pit softlock and losing held items (screenshot of empty hands - I could throw "nothing")
no exception log
raven sand
Oh jeez there’s the softlock.
Aah. 301 to 301 then it spawns you at -1, -1 in a big ol’ loop.
I thought I fixed the duplicate room thing, but I’ll double check. u .u;
Since you have dev tools, do you know the name of the exact room that you got in a death softlock?
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SI_D07, in Monk’s campaign.
open saffron
yes
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in this case I just dropped in the pit from the right pipe and nothing further happened
but I could pull myself back out with dev tools (still alive) and after that every drop worked
other than that the pipe transitions sometimes not spawning me (with gourmand in that case) was very random
I wasn't even aware of the pits not working because I disabled it due to not getting through pipes
caught another one that ended up in this funky loop
raven sand
Yea that’s the -1, -1 issue.
open saffron
so the pipe is undefined?
raven sand
If you press M and mouse over where you keep warping to, it should be -20, -20 or -1T, -1T
Mhm. And that’s killing me. x .x;;
open saffron
-1 -1 yes
raven sand
‘Cause it worked previously, the pipe should be defined, buuuut here we are
open saffron
oh well
could that also cause the lost items/not spawning through a pipe transition?
raven sand
Mhm.
I forgot the exact name of the room, but there was an issue for Spearmaster in || WF || near the || IW Karma Gate || where it would just voop your items somewhere after a screen transition.
It was caused by my method running when the two rooms were the same.
Ooo just got a nasty NRE while testing stuff.
Ok the respawning at an invalid pipe thing is now fixed. The NRE is next.
raven sand
Ok doing more debugging
Whenever a player respawns, it looks like the items are still in their hands, but they aren’t and are immediately lost upon going through a pipe.
raven sand
I can’t figure out the item dropping issue.
It seems to set the items to a layer that prevents it from colliding with everything else, but forcing the game to release it then give it back to slugcat doesn’t seem to help?
open saffron
I suppose you have to constantly mess with that to be able to reset the player with the items?
raven sand
I didn’t even bother with items in the first place, since the game didn’t mind it.
But now with items disappearing in hands while using pipes, I need to remedy it, and it’s difficult finding the point of faliure
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I’ve done the entire hokey-pokey trying to get this to work.
The only way to ensure a 100% rate of not losing items, thanks to the mod, is by having the player release them and dropping them at the pipe they came out of.
Do you think that would be an acceptable trade-off, @open saffron?
I see. 
raven sand
open saffron
you have been challenged to a rock paper scissors match
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say - I don't remember the room transitions being a problem in earlier versions - what was different?
maybe that items didn't respawn with you?
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say - I don't remember the room transitions being a problem in earlier versions ...
The fact that creatures are spat out of pipes instead of being forcibly moved. 
The mod not working perfectly plus the internet being down for a week has kinda just killed my motivation. 
open saffron
aww
I would love a revert on that feature just to get the original function without the issues