(resolved) game launches without mods 50% of a time. | Rain World | Page 1

shy thistle Jan 4, 2023, 2:23 AM

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So game does launch, but completely ignores mods. Nature of a bug is purely random. Exception log goes completely silent, but "preloader.log" files appear every time the bug happens. I already tried disabling antivirus and adding everything to the exception list, but antivirus is clearly not causing this. The bug is present regardless of the mod list, it simply started popping up on every backup I have, be it monkland setup, heavily modded or just lightly modded client. I would put preloader logs in the discussion bellow.

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case 1: monkland setup

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mod list:

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preloader logs:

📎 preloader_20221224_020715_689.log 📎 preloader_20221228_214028_852.log 📎 preloader_20221220_101224_224.log

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the folder itself looks like this and is called "Rain Monkland"

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this kind of setup worked for awhile before bug appeared

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case 2: main setup

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mod list:

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an extra standalone mod is used

📎 Assembly-CSharp.dll

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(modification for devtools rendering for russian wiki)

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the most recent logs:

📎 preloader_20230104_080732_770.log 📎 preloader_20230104_080944_202.log 📎 preloader_20230104_001740_826.log 📎 preloader_20230104_054600_162.log 📎 preloader_20230104_061516_418.log

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folder for this one looks something like this

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case 3: testing setup

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this one uses hard links from vanilla to conserve disk space

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bug is still present despite creating fresh game

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mod list

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once again, this log appears with the bug

📎 preloader_20230104_012822_645.log

stray hawk Jan 4, 2023, 3:47 AM

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This sounds like an antivirus issue to me. Try disabling your antivirus, or whitelist BepInEx from your antivirus's scans

shy thistle Jan 4, 2023, 3:57 AM

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avast is off

shy thistle Jan 4, 2023, 3:59 AM

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shy thistle the most recent logs:

and it was off during these

shy thistle Jan 4, 2023, 9:48 AM

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oh.. it doesn't even leave preloader log sometimes

vagrant prism Jan 4, 2023, 4:44 PM

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[pt] is there a folder named RAVAntivirus in C:\Program Files?

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@shy thistle

shy thistle Jan 4, 2023, 5:50 PM

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Avast antivirus

vagrant prism Jan 4, 2023, 5:51 PM

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what does that mean

shy thistle Jan 4, 2023, 5:51 PM

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I need to node what the bag has random nature and is not connected to any software I have

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But I’ll check what that means then I get to my PC

shy thistle Jan 4, 2023, 6:20 PM

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vagrant prism [pt] is there a folder named RAVAntivirus in C:\Program Files?

wait how did you?

vagrant prism Jan 4, 2023, 6:20 PM

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?

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how did i what?

shy thistle Jan 4, 2023, 6:21 PM

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where did you even see that?

vagrant prism Jan 4, 2023, 6:22 PM

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the last two times i've seen this exact issue, it was caused by RAVAntivirus

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so basically, based on prior experience / lucky guess

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if you just uninstall that it should work properly

shy thistle Jan 4, 2023, 6:23 PM

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there is none

vagrant prism Jan 4, 2023, 6:23 PM

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oh

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wait hang on

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what folder is that

vagrant prism Jan 4, 2023, 6:29 PM

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shy thistle there is none

that doesn't look like it's C:\Program Files, unless you have a Program Files inside your Program Files

shy thistle Jan 4, 2023, 6:40 PM

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oh I'm dumb sorry

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Kinda multitasking rn

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vagrant prism Jan 4, 2023, 6:41 PM

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...alright well yep it's not there

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hmm

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alright
download this program https://live.sysinternals.com/Procmon.exe and open it
press ctrl+l, it will open a window that looks like this

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set it to this, then click Add, then Apply, then Ok

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then launch the game

shy thistle Jan 4, 2023, 9:20 PM

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alright I'll try that

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thanks

vagrant prism Jan 4, 2023, 9:21 PM

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there are actually steps after that, so let me know when you've done that

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i don't expect this to fix anything, but it will generate useful information for me to debug the issue

shy thistle Jan 4, 2023, 10:05 PM

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I'll get to it as soon as I'm done with more important matters

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I'm sorry about wasting your time

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:01 AM

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alright so what do I do with this information?

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am I even doing this correctly?

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:23 AM

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@vagrant prism I have some free time right now

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:23 AM

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shy thistle alright so what do I do with this information?

when you ran the game this time did mods load?

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:23 AM

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no

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this one it didn't load

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:24 AM

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alright good
scroll around until you find a value in the Result column that isn't "SUCCESS" or "END OF FILE"

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then just give me a screenshot of the events around that

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:24 AM

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do you need more detail?

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:25 AM

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hover over rsEngineSvc.exe, it should show you a path

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:25 AM

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Programfiles/reasonlabs

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huh

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let me see

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...

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alright, I'm not even sure what that is

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but this thing is here

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rain world also shared violation once

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:29 AM

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yep, and that's what this bug is

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:29 AM

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is it some kind of conflicting files what use the same BepInEx plugins

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or whatever it's called

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:29 AM

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rsEngineSvc, for whatever reason, is interacting with BepInEx.cfg, the configuration file for BepInEx

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:29 AM

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is it a system file?

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:29 AM

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so at one point, when bepinex tried to interact with its config file, it got back that it couldn't do that, because someone else was using it

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:30 AM

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shy thistle is it a system file?

...i think it's an antivirus

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:30 AM

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huh, so I had another one without even knowing

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neat

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should I just delete it then?

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:30 AM

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yes

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:30 AM

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antiviruses don't like each other

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you should never have more than one

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:31 AM

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i think the issue isn't really interaction between multiple antiviruses, it's just that this particular one seems to cause problems

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and also seems to be something people sometimes end up installing without knowing it

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:31 AM

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I think it's a malware kind of an antivirus

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because it seems to have got on my pc just recently

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I should probably stop the process with task manager so it lets me delete it?

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is it called differently?

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:32 AM

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yeah that sounds like a good idea

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it's rsEngineSvc, although potentially other .exes from the same folder will also be running

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:33 AM

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I definitely don't remember seeing these

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hmm... one thing though

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so there should be no way for this thing to get on my pc

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:34 AM

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based on the internet i'm guessing this was probably bundled with the installation of something else

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:34 AM

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unless

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ok it doesn't let me to stop it

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:35 AM

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vagrant prism based on the internet i'm guessing this was probably bundled with the installati...

it doesn't look like it's actually malware, it's an antivirus
just for some reason some other installer decided to install this antivirus

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:35 AM

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how to do you stop a task as an admin

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I forgot

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:36 AM

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vagrant prism it doesn't look like it's actually *malware*, it's an antivirus just for some re...

that's what happens when you forget to uncheck some stuff

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:37 AM

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idk if there's a way to start task manager as an admin, but if you get an admin cmd you can then do taskkill /im exename /f to kill a program based on its name, or taskkill /pid number /f to kill a program based on its PID

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:37 AM

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I'll try CMD then

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:38 AM

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so taskkill /im rsEngineSvc.exe /f would get rid of rsEngineSvc, task manager isn't directly showing you the exe names of those other processes but if killing one doesn't bring them all down you should be able to just right click properties or something like that

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:38 AM

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Administrator cmd

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translation

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access denied

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this is getting annoying

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:39 AM

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alright then
get this https://download.sysinternals.com/files/PSTools.zip and extract it

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then open an administrator cmd, type cd then the directory you extracted it to

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then type psexec -s -i cmd

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which will open a cmd as the system user

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if you can't kill it as the system user, then we'll have to think of something else, but you probably can i hope

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 12:44 AM

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Alright, once again thanks for your help

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I’ll tell you if I’ll be able to find a proper way to remove it

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By the way, it happened before?

vagrant prism Jan 5, 2023, 12:46 AM

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it has, although in the previous cases it was named RAVAntivirus instead of ReasonLabs

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but i think it's the same thing given the similar behaviour and the name rsEngineSvc

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 1:00 AM

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Fun fact

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After some investigation I found uninstall.exe in the EEP folder

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I’m not sure if it’s gonna work, but let’s see

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Nah, it seems like it’s too scummy to just work

shy thistle Jan 5, 2023, 6:37 AM

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(resolved) game launches without mods 50% of a time.

#(resolved) game launches without mods 50% of a time.