💬︱dying-light-2

[thorn egret]

en komik sensin tamam

[round notch]

What

[twilit granite]

Tamam kardeş en cool sensin

[thorn egret]

adam base building update istiyo aw

[twilit granite]

bi sg şurdan konuşmayacaksan

[thorn egret]

djawghdhanwgdhawnbfgdhawbngdhwafdaw

[round notch]

Sjwiwnenedudbwiqomsnewoq9sf77esjdjeje

[onyx flume]

U can active them at channels and roles

[orchid karma]

[thorn egret]

knk bence sen git 7 days falan oyna yanlıs yerdesin cunku

[twilit granite]

tamam kardeşim sen işine bak

[late widget]

And that included lots of weapons, outfits to unlock, etc. for free

[crude pine]

#📄︱general-latam

[twilit granite]

fikrin kimsenin umrunnda degil

oyunun sitesinde adamlar olabilir diyordu

git bi bak oraya

[thorn egret]

kim diyo aw KDHAWJNGDAWHNGDA

[onyx flume]

Cut Content o brom ne alaka la ggnbgjvbbvbj

[orchid karma]

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[ornate scarab]

sure i guess

[twilit granite]

onu demiom la

hay aq bulmaya üşendim

[onyx flume]

Anyways #📄︱general-turkish

if u don't wanna get any warn

[onyx flume]

[shrewd nebula]

are long weapons affected by one handed or two handed damage buffs

[limpid timber]

2H buffs

[shrewd nebula]

ok good, im running tank gear and maxing out my 2h skill first

[kind gyro]

2 handed iirc

[shrewd nebula]

perfect since im using the samurai skin

whipping out the katana to duel any renegade mfs who think theyre hot shit

[ornate scarab]

in grand scheme of things, which are better for 1h? machete or axe?

[queen patrol]

istg if techland's post is just another bundle… or a lame pilgrim outpost bounty i’m gonna lose it

[onyx flume]

Ahh mb I thought u want in server one. Just check the VC in game at online options

[orchid karma]

[ornate scarab]

what post?

[orchid karma]

Bundle that will cost the same as expansion price

[queen patrol]

instagram post

[orchid karma]

2000 DL pts

[queen patrol]

.

[queen patrol]

I SWEAR

[ornate scarab]

wasnt there something about coop in roadmap

[queen patrol]

anyways are there any new bounties?

i want the kyle crane outfit

[queen patrol]

i don’t think it’s gonna be that

[ornate scarab]

on 19th

[queen patrol]

i mean, tymon said in a interview not so long ago that when they released this event they had something else cooking

[thorn egret]

@twilit granite

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[twilit granite]

?

[queen patrol]

but idk

[orchid karma]

I hope it’s a dlc expansion teaser or something* but I’m not holding my breath here. Also wanting the community ideas to return to some extent for the missing DL1 features but that ship has sailed because I don’t know wtf Techland has been doing for the past 2 years

[onyx flume]

💀

[warm wigeon]

what is this event i am seeing when i enter campaign that i can choose to partake in guys?

[orchid karma]

Infected Outbreak event. All the details are mainly on the announcement tab. You can also check it out on the pilgrim outpost to see what you need to do with the stuff you can earn within correlated bounties to participate.

[shadow iron]

are there any good blueprints in old villedor?

[topaz comet]

Does DL2 has now similar legendary levels like The Beast?

[snow bear]

Blunt Trials
Kill 40 Virals with blunt weapons in outbreak zone.

How am I going to do this task?

[half lichen]

So I gotta ask, are knuckle dusters boosted by 2 handed boost as well as the respective stat and, what gear type can roll kuncle duster damage boost?

[half lichen]

Find a howler

[bleak wind]

what you mean?

[snow bear]

How can I find it?

[half lichen]

They are everywhere on the ground

They scream at you

[snow bear]

I'm doing my job, this is the only one left, I don't know how I'm going to do it.

[bleak wind]

they are boosted by parkour damage so medic with that affix or first pilgrim gear

[half lichen]

So they have 2 stats that boost, good to know

[bleak wind]

blunt weapons are bats/hammers esc if you are asking about the type of the weapon or?

[snow bear]

Is there a picture? What does it look like?

[safe basalt]

Can also throw grenades to attract virals

[snow bear]

yes thx

Thank you very much indeed. @bleak wind@half lichen

[kind gyro]

Machete swings faster than the axe. I think the axe has a little more range tho, but I prefer the machete.

[kind gyro]

Parkour Damage boost knuckledusters. The first pilgrim outfit that you can get in the outpost is the best for knuckleduster. You get more than double the damage.

[warm wigeon]

hey guys, these quests stay the level i picked them up at right? does that mean i shouldnt pick up every quest i see beacuse i want to wait with most of them til higher level to get the most out of them?

[kind gyro]

This one. Is all over Villedor

[shrewd nebula]

do legend tokens just exist to exchange for legend points

[kind gyro]

Get close, let him scream (don't kill it), kill virals, repeat. That's what I did xD

[orchid karma]

They are fixed leveled missions. Rewards aren’t scaled if you level up. Also if you progress a bit far on the main quest, some of these side quests will disappear and can’t be done again until new game plus.

[kind gyro]

i think the side quests are always the same level.

[versed perch]

Yes

[glossy perch]

[versed perch]

Lmao 🤣

[glossy perch]

its a trap

he will kill me

[versed perch]

“Yeah” 🗿

[kind gyro]

He must be being hunted by a horde of nighthunters or Kyle Crane himself for him to send a distress call, lol

[versed perch]

Using the new black hand outfit but the black version with the silenced pistol makes you feel like John wick

[graceful shale]

im playing tower raid rn and i see theres 2 new classes i found how to get one but cursed pirate unlock is nowhere to be found? it used to be unlocked from the start but i cant access now

(its been a while since i played)

[versed perch]

I’m assuming this is part 2 of the event

Or maybe an update to Tower Raid

[kind gyro]

I think it was from the halloween event

[half lichen]

That's strange, has to be a bug but useful info

[versed perch]

The pirate is from the recent Halloween event and you can unlock the saber class from ranking up

[graceful shale]

thats quite unfortune,thanks

[glossy perch]

TRUE

[kind gyro]

I don't think is a bug. Knuckledusters counts as separate type of weapons. 2h builds don't benefit them since they are not technically a 2h weapon.

So they are in the category of parkour damage i guess

[spark onyx]

Hey guys, is there a mod on the Nexus that removes visual modifications on weapons in the current version of the game?

[half lichen]

I was just curious since some of my gear has knuckle damage boost as a stat and was wondering if since they are under 2 handed would benefit from them too but thats still helpful

[versed perch]

I believe so, I wish it was on consoles because I’d actually use mods if I could make them invisible. I don’t like the way they make most weapons look. I like the weapons that have built in mods those look good. Bleed is my favorite because it’s not super flashy and it looks the best visually imo

[spark onyx]

I'm also sure that such mods exist, the only question is, do they work with this version of the game?

[low hornet]

Some tank gear parts have knuckles boost, some have two handed boost

[kind gyro]

Dont know if there is any for the current version of the game. I wish it was an ingame option to make the mods invisible. Kinda like the option to transfigure gear or make the backpack invisible.

[late widget]

yes they work

[spark onyx]

Unfortunately, there is no such option in the game, which is very disappointing, since I have hated these boxes on weapons since the release, while in the first part you visually enjoyed how they complemented your weapon

[spark onyx]

Which one exactly? I saw several versions of such mods on Nexus

[kind gyro]

Just in case send the link in private cause i don't think is allowed to do it here xD

Or just say the name

[late widget]

https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglight2/mods/1193?tab=description

[kind gyro]

or not :v

[steady steeple]

Watch it be the old gen ports for the beast lol, I’d love for that Kyle skin to have proper sounds and such when he parkour/fights but I doubt it. Week 1 of this event ends the 19th pretty sure.

[bleak wind]

correct

[low hornet]

Good evening

[versed perch]

Yeah me too, it would be really cool if they also ported over some of his dialogue and sounds. Obviously he won’t talk during the story but it’d be cool

[spark onyx]

ty very much

[elder trellis]

Boy oh boy I wish this was available on console😔

[steady steeple]

Yeah I just expected normal combat sounds when using melee and parkour. I’m gonna be sad if he doesn’t which is most likely. No animation when night hits for the watch or to check time. Or night immunity with the skin on and no beast mode. Wish I had PC and cross progression or else I bet modders would whip this all up. The least they could do is port some of the easier stuff I mentioned (beast mode/watch stuff later)

[versed perch]

Would be crazy cool, you already know modders will do it if Techland doesn’t

[steady steeple]

I remember the website addressing this and I can’t remember if it was an approved idea in that one section and if they’d do it or not due to the immersion but TBH a lot of the mods really aren’t. For the sake of gameplay hiding it would be nice. In the canon of it, of course it’d be there

[versed perch]

I want this on console so bad, I’d actually mod my weapons if I could use that. I hardly mod them because they just don’t look good to me

[steady steeple]

Yeah too bad console doesn’t get the modding level BG3 does on console from Larian where they get approved and ported from PC. The “mods” for dying light 2 are all cosmetics and you can only have 5…

[elder trellis]

The cap of 5 mods kinda is annoying

[late widget]

its in Approved section

[glossy perch]

i like the flash light change

[versed perch]

I wonder why it’s 5? Some kind of hardware constraint or something I assume

[elder trellis]

Or perhaps the game somehow can't handle more than five mods for console I have no idea

[versed perch]

Nice 👍🏽

[glossy perch]

i love the revolver

[steady steeple]

It’s pointless because they’re not all that crazy and TBH I think we need an overhaul of the mod section and space that isn’t just cosmetics.

[shadow iron]

awful

[elder trellis]

I agree about the overhaul

It definitely needs some changes and more options

[shadow iron]

i got to the central loop but then went back to old villedor. are there any good blueprints there? how do i upgrade the main healing item??

[steady steeple]

Yeah I don’t really use it besides maybe a couple of the E3 stuff but would love more space and just not cosmetics. Now with 2026 and 2027 support we’ll see if they even put in this much effort.

[late widget]

but Techland says that lower immersion of the game

[versed perch]

Right 😂

[late widget]

#💬︱dying-light-2 message

[versed perch]

The knife is now a taser yet it still cuts ? Super immersive

[steady steeple]

Yup this, I disagree with their opinion of immersion because as you showed some of the mods without built in effects just look really out there instead of done better. There is plenty of weapons they’ve added for fun that hide them and are built in. The toggle doesn’t just make the attachments that show not be canon. So Idkn why they’d sweat it.

[late widget]

is the knife slash or blunt weapon ?

[versed perch]

If anything hiding the mods would make it more immersive and fun for me at least, I’d still get the bonuses from the mods and my weapon will still look good so it’s a win win. I have Breckens electric wrench which I like how it looks but that’s because the mod is built into the weapon rather than just slapped onto it

You know what I’d like to see return to the game? The human enemies with the shields, it’d make human combat more interesting and it’d be a good change. In the E3 version it showed Aiden fighting PKs that had big blue and white shields

[low hornet]

At the craftmaster. You need some special crafting parts for every level up. But look at the health booster, so much better

[real root]

do the devs know about the DLSS bug?

[floral shale]

hi

i just finished dying light 2 for the first time

i destroyed the whole city for lawan

ig i did the worst ending

and the waltz fight was so funny cuz i had a rifle and killed him in a sec

[steady steeple]

I mean I see their point in the end their immersion is canon, but it could be done better and should have a toggle anyway. I’d like shields but the big guys are basically there for that annoyance since they can’t be knocked down really 😅

[real root]

congrats! would say spoilers but I just realized the devs deleted that channel, so you're good haha

[steady steeple]

Yeah you gotta not kill hakon, give the tower to Frank and let hakon save her for the best ending lol

Also save Frank as well *

[floral shale]

thxxx

[floral shale]

i did the not kill hakon from all of those

i was like fuck everyone im fighting for my loved ones

[steady steeple]

Yeah going after her yourself instead of hakon while you go Mia will result in the city destroyed and her being unhappy Lawan. If I’m right. All the mutiple choice stuff is confusing and why I preferred it being a linear story lol

[floral shale]

honestly ion regret that

[iron compass]

Hakon or nothing for me probably... Though the alone ending is apparently a bad one

[floral shale]

but it was still weird when i saw the city like that

[floral shale]

i still saved him

AND YES I REGRET IT

[versed perch]

I’ve done all the endings but left off on my favorite one which is leaving with Hakon 🗿

[iron compass]

"Hello, my name is Hakon and this is Jackass"

[real root]

it's funny to me how I have 500 hours in this game yet never finished all the side quests or the Juan stealth missions throughout the story

[dusky dune]

I really wish they revamped the hud/ menus, textures and added a way to see your biomarker

[versed perch]

I’ve done everything multiple times over in 500+ hours 😅

But it’s because I play a lot of co op

[dusky dune]

A general polishing update is all i ask for

[versed perch]

We’re getting a bug fix update soon which is well needed

And hopefully they keep their word and overhaul the graphics to look more like the beast and then I’ll be more that satisfied

[real root]

they finally fixed the flashlight which was more than needed

[versed perch]

I obviously want more but that’s a good send off

[dusky dune]

You bet they are going to make another aiden foreskin bundle lmao

[crude pine]

tomorrow we're getting a nothing burger

FORESKIN?

[versed perch]

Time will tell

I hope it’s something good tho

[real root]

I noticed a graphical error on the gas can that I hope they can fix, it wasn't like that on the initial launch of the game but somewhere down the road they made it get a error with how light reflects on it

[floral shale]

dude literally were gonna kill me if lawan wasnt there

[dusky dune]

also, temporal antia aliasing looks horrible and ruins the graphics

[floral shale]

yeaahhh even when u was able to see it in cutscenes it was stable but i was abt to turn

[floral shale]

tbh i played game with geforce now and maxed all the graphics since my wifi is pretty good

[orchid karma]

It’s kinda funny how you can chop off Hakon’s head during the fight and as the next cutscene rolls around, he’s fine

[floral shale]

same for the lawan

i said her to shoot the colonel and someone hit her with a fucking axe and she was fine in the next scene

the worst side of the game is that i got so over powered

[versed perch]

That was early on as far as I’m aware, they changed it to where his model can be mutilated

[floral shale]

i could one hit any infected 2 hit most of humans and just one shot the big guys with rifle

i killed waltz so quickly with the rifle it was funny

[versed perch]

A couple of the NPCs have that like Waltz, that fat guy from Jai’s mission etc

[versed perch]

You were probably over leveled, you can one shot him on your first playthrough if you a high enough level

[floral shale]

and this game needs a better flashlight mod or smth

[crude pine]

Waltz the greatest aura farmer in dying light

[floral shale]

i didnt one shot but it was rly quick

[floral shale]

spike my man didnt see me

honestly this story was way better than dl1

[versed perch]

Agreed, it has its flaws but at least it’s not super generic like DL1

[floral shale]

and aiden was a better character than crane

[floral shale]

yeah dying light's story was never the best

[iron compass]

Well I guess I'll need to kill you

[floral shale]

me?😭😭😭

[iron compass]

Yes

[floral shale]

why man

[crude pine]

Levefre

don't do it

we can still save him

[iron compass]

Dont insult daddy crane like this like what

I like Aiden too but naw

Dont do that to my boy

[floral shale]

its like "a guy trying to complete his mission before turning" but i dont even expect dl to have an epic story line

[crude pine]

you will hail daddy crane
you will hail daddy crane

🍥

[floral shale]

crane doesnt have a soul😭😭ig if dl1 had choices too he would be better

[iron compass]

AAAAA

[crude pine]

hell nah

[iron compass]

[floral shale]

aiden babaiden better

[crude pine]

i would explain why kyle is a cool character but im too lazy for that

[versed perch]

I like them both equally, Crane is the OG and with the Release of The Beast I like him even more but Aiden is great too I like the way he expresses his emotions it makes you feel what’s going on

[floral shale]

yeahh thats exactly why i said aiden is better and crane doesnt have emotions

[crude pine]

i felt like side characters had more personality than aiden

[floral shale]

fuh nah

[crude pine]

like aiden's character arc was undercooked

[iron compass]

I'm crying rn

[crude pine]

I would like to see him transition into his E3 personality

[floral shale]

NOW HEAR ME OUT

[crude pine]

where he is the batman of villedor

[floral shale]

i liked the side quests story lines more than main story line

like it was so good to see people trying do their stuff and live their lifes where the world is fucked up

returning a music box to a little girl,helping couples to watch tv etc etc

there were tones of this quests and i loved them sooo much

[crude pine]

mia is so cute😇

[floral shale]

yeahhhh

what i didnt understand

what happened to her

hakon said that he got her

and they didnt show her after

[crude pine]

sorry i meant maya

Maya is so cute😇

[floral shale]

yeahhh

[floral shale]

bro fr what happened to her

[crude pine]

Mia died

[floral shale]

but they didnt show her dying

[crude pine]

Aiden buried her under an old oak tree

They didnt

but nicholas tells that to Spike

[floral shale]

ohhh

in my ending he told spike that people like me should stay far from cities

lol

ig i was the villian

[orchid karma]

DL2’s story is a bit more repetitive and jarring. I wouldn’t say it’s better than 1. It’s a long shot of being the worst actually lol

[crude pine]

DL2's story is a hot mess

it has some good moments

but it's no where near as good as DL1

[orchid karma]

I was expecting a following like expansion to redeem DL2’s story but that’s gone now

[crude pine]

you can play it as a game now

[orchid karma]

[crude pine]

are you excited for tomorrow's nothing burger update

[orchid karma]

[iron compass]

I'm not mad btw people are allowed to have opinions I just love Kyle.

[orchid karma]

I wouldn’t say it’s about character initially. But story wise sheeesh 2 is garbage lol

[crude pine]

In my facts people arent allowed to have opinions

[iron compass]

I'll always love DL1 much like I love Half-Life 1

[orchid karma]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-freeman-half-life-dance-dancing-gmod-gif-15228854003327152030

[kind gyro]

I tought I was the only one that think that lol. I actually never said it at loud cause nostalgia guys here will kill you if you say anything about DL2 having a better story or gameplay than DL1 xD.

I like DL2 way more than DL1, you have a lot of replayability with choices, the world feels more alive and even side characters feel more real. I actually like Aiden and never understood why people hate him so much xD

Still prefer Crane tho, but overall I like DL2 most

[floral shale]

exactly

[orchid karma]

Now to subject against the choices and consequences thing I would have agreed prior but due to the horrendous development cycle DL2 went through I look at it at a different lens. Aiden looks cool. Especially his E3 outfit, and pre-release outfit and personality don’t get me wrong

But in terms of gameplay, parkour and combat has improved no doubt, but everything else after felt like it had no soul. DL1 had every neat details, gameplay features and so much more. A game that felt ahead of its time

Unfortunately the sequels are bleh. Techland is just not the same after DL1*

[floral shale]

i also love dl1 i have played it so many times and i really really really enjoy it but dl2 is better at everything

[iron compass]

And that's cool! We all enjoy different things.

[floral shale]

i think that tall buildings are the best for a game like dl

[iron compass]

I think the environment DL2 is set in is really cool. I'd love for Kyle to go to Villedor but Castor Woods is very nice too

[kind gyro]

Im actually trying to finish the game with the 4 endings xD

[floral shale]

and ig its sooo hard to make smth like that cuz yk in other games they want to put a building and they do it but in dl2 if they put a building they have to think abt the ways to climb that building and they are placed so smartly

[floral shale]

i spent a lot time with zombie things for few weeks ig i need to play a good shooter game lol

and when u go back and play dl2 again u feel how ur character was upgraded

like u really feel that

[crude pine]

I love the skill tree progression in dl2

you really go from noob to pro

[kind gyro]

I play it only recently so I dont know much about that. I have seen the E3 trailer and I didn't like the original outfit tho xD. I also realise that most people that enjoy DL2 are new players. I been told that DL2 on release was a mess and for example I have found post of people complaining about how Aiden is always hit or punch in cinematics and that never happened to me cause they fix it and now he always dodge.

So maybe is because now the game is more cooked and polished that I think is better xD

Never even experienced the game until last year. I see videos and even the hud was different

[orchid karma]

From what I can see on Discord, most are new players or never liked the first game. But hey it’s their preference so I can’t judge too harshly 😌

[iron compass]

I just see it as getting into it at the right time. I also missed all of DL2's development, so I'll be going into it with no real bias or anything.

[orchid karma]

It’s kinda better now than it was before. But I am expecting more community ideas from the first game, a second dlc story expansion and possible features be added. 2 years of nothing with its last year on support

DL2 needs a proper redemption

[iron compass]

All I remember was the anger when it came out and I never touched it

[orchid karma]

I still kinda have the disappointment to this day. Wishing it would be redeemed but from what I see with whatever support they’re doing with 2 makes my blood boil

[rugged thorn]

When dl2 came out it was an unplayable piece of a shit that should have just been trashed

[kind gyro]

I played DL1 for the first time after I finally build my pc in 2024. I always wanted to play it but my pc sucked and I could barely play Dead Island 1 at like 20 fps even xd

[orchid karma]

[rugged thorn]

My friend bought it for herself on disc and me on console. And we never touched it for 3 years

[kind gyro]

Wich was like Dying Light beta version for me xD

[shadow iron]

i didnt play the game back then but i remember when level 1 and 2 chases were just virals

pure lol

[rugged thorn]

I’m still not happy about the graphical change in dl1

[rugged thorn]

It was broken asf bro. And buggy as hell

[orchid karma]

DL1 had so much attention to detail. Also missing stuff like Nightwalkers, outdoor merchants, and so on. DL2 and The Beast still lacks these features.

Lots of stuff that also interacts with the environments and ragdoll reactions from the first game was top tier

[rugged thorn]

My friend just played dl2 for the first time 2 weeks ago now. He kept saying “it’s not that badddd” and all I could do was laugh and say “IIIIDIOT you never saw the bad”

[orchid karma]

Yeah it was just virals until reaching Level 3 chase 1 volatile would spawn until reaching level 4 where more would spawn

[rugged thorn]

Dl2 was horrible with attention to detail. It’s a bit better in the beast but nothing beats dl1 because dl1 was a passion project. Not a money grab

[kind gyro]

I love that in DL2 you are just walking and people are talking, sometimes you have the camps where someone tells really interesting stories and it feels like everyone is alive and are not just npcs.

[versed perch]

It’s great

[rugged thorn]

Doors going to nowhere. Windows on the inside of buildings but not on the outside.

[versed perch]

I wish every game had that

[orchid karma]

The Beast did improve on some stuff like dynamic-ish sun and whatnot but still has issues of its own. But indeed better than 2 on that regards. I still wish for lots of stuff to be added from the first game to make it more lively and horrific

[rugged thorn]

Someone told me on Reddit theu hate how open 2 is on rooftops because a volitile could just hypothetically “unga bunga” up there and rip them all apart

[versed perch]

I waited years to play DL2 because I heard it was “bad” which it did have problems but the second I played I instantly regretted waiting so long I fell in love immediately

[rugged thorn]

The atmosphere of dl1 gave “the world is ending and there’s little hope for its revival” and dl2 was too “there’s hope” for me. Then the beast didn’t really give anything to me atmospherically but “it’s a game”

[orchid karma]

That was a good detail but wish there was more ground floor side story interactions where people can attack and deal with infected on ground. All those interactions are mainly on roofs.

DL1 had a mix of rooftop and ground interactions

Wish there was more to it

[hushed cave]

REALLL

[orchid karma]

Heh yeh

[hushed cave]

for being polish they really lack the polish

[kind gyro]

The thing is that maybe if you haven't waited that long you wouldn't have fall in love immediately xD

[versed perch]

That’s the whole point, the rooftops are safer. All the interactions on the ground level are saving people or killing people.

I like that

[versed perch]

I would, the gameplay, the lore, graphics, characters had me drawn in. The game still has plenty of flaws all of them do but it’s genuinely a great game

[rugged thorn]

I wanted them to not touch dl1 as it was perfect. I don’t know why they went back to fuck with the graphics when it didn’t need it. They needed to go back into 2 and fix some of the lazy shit they did to push the game out

[orchid karma]

Yeah, but wish there was more to it. Hell outdoor merchants would be a nice thing to add on top of it! Sell you better stuff at an increased cost but can be killed or attacked by other enemies around the area and so on~

[iron compass]

I thought the graphic update was nice.

[orchid karma]

Lots of stuff missing from DL1 is what I would wish

For DL2 and The Beast

[kind gyro]

I feel like DL world is like when someone reach's rock bottom. When you are falling you feel there is little to no hope (DL1) and only when you reach the bottom you start to climb back and regain hope (DL2) xD

[rugged thorn]

Like it didn’t change too much so it wasn’t bad. But it was perfect how it was I didn’t see a need for them to go change it. It broke my game a few times to where I had to go delete and reinstall

[iron compass]

And the beast does have a theme of revenge but it opens up a lot of world building (unfortunately not expanded on all that much) and pretty much dumps Kyle into a new world he doesnt know unlike Aiden.

But sadly this is barely touched upon

[versed perch]

Beast has great world building and environmental story telling

[hushed cave]

aiden also doesn't know villedor I don't think

[kind gyro]

I actually always see them doing that and having funerals that are interrupted by infected and they fight back

[versed perch]

You can enter a building and know exactly what happened

[rugged thorn]

It was the hue of the sky too. DL1 was orange which makes you uneasy. Dl2 was green which apparently is hopeful. And the beast didn’t really have a color

[orchid karma]

Oop I forgot the funeral interactions. lol Still I wish there was more ground interactions!

[hushed cave]

dltb doesn't really have a big visual theme to me compared to dl1 and dl2

[rugged thorn]

Everytime I round a corner on this game I see another funeral. One time I accidentally jumped too close to them and they all started jumping me 😭😭 I didn’t even attack

[dusky dune]

Lmao yeah

[versed perch]

Or the PKs helping survivors who are inured, checking on their bio markers, catching bandits, survivor funerals, survivor patrolling the streets around safe zones etc the word feels so alive

[iron compass]

The beast is great and I love it a lot... But it misses a lot of things that could make it even better and it saddens me some. Like people hate on DL2 (and DL1 in some cases) but atm TB has the least in terms of content etc.

[rugged thorn]

Same, which isn’t DL to me at all

[orchid karma]

Dying Light the beast has a better environment and detail obviously than the A.I.-ish world building from 2 but feels more dead overall without human interactions and such during the day

Other than fixed activities

[iron compass]

Like I genuinely think the game could be brilliant if TL invest into it... And I've been told they are so

[rugged thorn]

I feel like In the beast there’s nothing to do. So I just go from check point to check point.

[orchid karma]

Techland could have done more with the Beast tbh. Same with 2 but 2 is in a rough spot

[hushed cave]

I think that's on purpose

[orchid karma]

[hushed cave]

[orchid karma]

[iron compass]

Like it has the potential to the best imo but time will tell.

[orchid karma]

Haha oh I got promoted to degenerate on discord

Heh nice

[rugged thorn]

I finally found a way to love 2 and the beast help that because it was so repetitive. Dl2 at least had different missions. DLTb is literally go kill this, help her again, kill this, help her again, kill this

[hushed cave]

are there any dltb emojis

[orchid karma]

Night walkers, outdoor merchants, guns reacting* on enemies spawning on virals, and more would be nice on both Beast and 2

[iron compass]

We got this one

[hushed cave]

that's not even beast crane

[kind gyro]

The thing is the ground is not as safe as the roofs so there are not a lot of survivors there.

[iron compass]

Oh... No its not

Then no :C

There's more DL2 stuff than DL1/TB lol

[rugged thorn]

In dl1 there’s always an escort mission dude right outside the tower just standing there until a zombie spawns 😂😂

[orchid karma]

Yeah but DL1 had some balance of both. Where ground survivors can fight back when they were looting but interacted upon with some story telling interactions. Wish there was more to it

[hushed cave]

one thing I wish dltb did was better human reactions to like the environment cause mfs will shoot in the dead of the night for no reason and somehow not attract any volatiles

[orchid karma]

Lol yeh

[versed perch]

But the second we shoot it’s raining them 😂

[rugged thorn]

Oml when I was doing the first part of the dl2 event the ground survivors kept yelling in my ear “IM OUT OF HERE”

[orchid karma]

lol and when you shoot it spawns and alerts infected to you

In DL1 virals and volatiles can hunt down human NPCs shooting guns

The Beast it’s only you for some reason

[versed perch]

Same with enemy Ai not being able to kill each other, both in 1-2 you can watch humans and infected kill each other but in the beast only volatiles will kill people to otherwise you’ll watch them fight forever it kills immersion

[rugged thorn]

I don’t really care for the AI change in the beast. Volatiles needed to be harder but not impossible to run from 😭

[orchid karma]

These details from the first game can’t be matched to the sequels

A game where it had a soul

[versed perch]

Even when itd bandits in a gun fight with barons men neither side dies unfortunately

[hushed cave]

did they release a teaser for something tmrw I saw an image but I ain't got Twitter

[versed perch]

Ehh, I’d pick 2 and the beast over 1 any day of the week

[orchid karma]

Looks like something for DL2 but could be nothing burger

[versed perch]

1 is a great game but it’s not as good as 2 and TB

[orchid karma]

[versed perch]

It’s genuinely hard to go back and play 1 after 2 am TB I tried

[rugged thorn]

2015 was one of if not the last year for passion projects. Everything after became money grab games

[hushed cave]

bro if they release another bundle tomorrow after all this I'm gonna kill myself (in dl2)

[versed perch]

You already know they will 😂

[orchid karma]

Meh. DL1 despite lacking in the graphical (to some degree), parkour and combat limitations, you can’t deny lots of attention of detail that game had compared to the sequels.

[rugged thorn]

The wolf outfit isn’t bad but I’m not paying 16 dollars

[orchid karma]

Lots of things in DL1 felt a lot more dynamic and actually good

[hushed cave]

I'm not paying a PENNY for cosmetics in a first person single player game

[versed perch]

I wish the quests for the bundles were better, I didn’t get the wolf one but I got the black hand and it was a slog to farm humans for the notes

[rugged thorn]

The bugs in dl1 gave the game character. The bugs in 2 an TB felt like a detriment

[orchid karma]

Price of an expansion DLC is wild

[versed perch]

I play a lot of co op so I like them, I’m not trynna play as clones. I want to be my own person

I hope they get rid of the clones in the next game I hate it

It’s why I stopped playin TB

[hushed cave]

oh also the outfits aren't even gear pieces afaik so I can't even customize with them

[orchid karma]

2 years of nothing from Techland. What have they been doing all this time?

[hushed cave]

for the past 2 years dltb

[orchid karma]

I get the beast was made.. but DL2 needs something too

[hushed cave]

but for the past couple months I don't know

[orchid karma]

We had a community feedback page for ideas. That is gone

And it had lots of DL1 requested features

Where’s all that

[rugged thorn]

In dl1 at least some of the outfits gave you bonuses

Snow ops - 20% xp increase
Savvy gamer- improved night vision
Etc

[orchid karma]

[versed perch]

I gave them leniency due to The Beast being made but now that it’s out there’s no excuses

I hope they don’t waste the last year of support

[orchid karma]

Exactly

[iron compass]

And even with TB being made it doesnt feel 'finished' as such.

[rugged thorn]

Wait is dl1 still supported? 😭😭

[iron compass]

Naw

[toxic ferry]

Even worse since the gear pieces you get from it are ass, the only incentive to even get it for such a bad price is the claws you get from it (which aren’t even better than the beast claws you can find a blueprint for)

[iron compass]

I think it stopped in 2023?

[hushed cave]

I think that's even worse

[kind gyro]

ikr? what is the point of so many outfits when you can only see your arms lol

[versed perch]

Feels pretty complete, the only thing left to add is things to replay to earn XP for legend levels so NG+ isn’t the only option

[orchid karma]

DL1 was long done

[iron compass]

It really needs an epilogue or something.

[versed perch]

None of the games have a conclusive ending though

[rugged thorn]

Oof I’m surprised dl1 wasn’t gone into disrepair like red dead redemption 2 has 💀rockstar shep it up

[orchid karma]

Yeah, some of the DLC for DL1 had bonuses. But one in particular was infamous for the PvP side of things lol

[iron compass]

But more activities, stuff to do, more world exploration, bounties... DL2 has LOADS of content despite it being considered 'bad'.

[versed perch]

It’s always some kind of cliff hanger leading into the next game

[toxic ferry]

Well DL2 kinda did

[hushed cave]

crazy they have the dl1 11th anniversary logo on the outpost but no dl2 4th anniversary one

[toxic ferry]

Ah well, in that case yeah

[orchid karma]

I just wish official content can be added like how DL1 had the following. Bloody Ties was just meh

[rugged thorn]

They never told us the “canon” ending of 2 straight up 😭😭

[versed perch]

Kinda, but you didnt get to go back and talk to all the main characters and things like that it’s just Aiden walking away

[iron compass]

I always thought the canon ending was the neutral one

[hushed cave]

I mean dl2 didn't really set up much

[orchid karma]

That’s unfortunately true ngl

[rugged thorn]

Bloody ties was just to make us happy because of the beast being taken away 😭😭

[toxic ferry]

Yeah true

[orchid karma]

Aiden’s endgame story led to nowhere tbh lol

Unless… a DLC EXPANSION MUAHAHHAHA

not gonna happen

[hushed cave]

aiden and crane living happily ever after in a fishing village

[rugged thorn]

The entirety of dl2 didn’t really matter to the lore at all. Lol. A few little things here and there

[hushed cave]

Just like hakon would've wanted

[toxic ferry]

I still want a dlc for DL2 :(

[iron compass]

That's cute c:

[versed perch]

They need to partner with the Renaissance dev team and make that mod official

Easy way to make an official expansion they’ve done most the work already

[orchid karma]

I wish in DLC 2 if there is one being developed, Aiden gets his infected powers… feedback community ideas get added on top of that… and more

[versed perch]

And they’re limited to dev tools, if Techland helped them it could be so much more

[orchid karma]

They should. It will cut them some time to actually make official DLC to sell

Story DLC*

Sentient Volatiles appear vs Aiden or something

[rugged thorn]

And techland isn’t going to pay Rosario Dawson so lawan might as well be dead lol. Although I think it would be cool if she came out of nowhere in dl4 and shoot helicopter lady in the head

[orchid karma]

[orchid karma]

For the original casting yeah that will never happen lol

[hushed cave]

the fall was very important

[orchid karma]

True but everything else… oof

[rugged thorn]

The fall was yeah, but everything else was minor.

[versed perch]

I doubt she’s returning people didn’t really like her, I’d like to see Hakon return though

[toxic ferry]

Hakon our goat

[orchid karma]

Not sure if the voice actor for Hakon would be up for it

If they wanted to make a DLC 2

[rugged thorn]

I loved lawan 😭😭she was like one of the only characters with development in that game besides hakon and Frank 😭

[orchid karma]

But would be cool

[hushed cave]

In the grand scheme of things if villedor is the last true bastion of humanity that would be a big deal, but it doesn't really seem like it since Castor Woods is like just as populated

[rugged thorn]

Lawan will probably be like Sam from icarly. Just a name from now on.

[iron compass]

But yeah my dream would be the beast getting as much content as DL2/DL1 have

[orchid karma]

I wanted to love Lawan… I have mixed feelings for her lol Hakon seems a bit more reasonable for some further developments tbh lol

[iron compass]

You guys have your dreams of DL2 and that one's mine :C

[orchid karma]

Yeh

[kind gyro]

That was the plan but they change it into DL The Beast xD

[rugged thorn]

I wanted to kick hakon in the balls for what he did all game. Lawan I was just like “it’s ok girlie you’re just a tad bit crazy”

[orchid karma]

Yep.

[orchid karma]

True lol

[toxic ferry]

Bro-like characters are just way easier to love too

[iron compass]

Well CW doesnt have that many people comparatively. It's a small settlement numbers wise.

[versed perch]

Much smaller survivor count

[hushed cave]

game doesn't do a good job showing that

[rugged thorn]

My dreams of dl2 are for them to come back and fix the fucking game. 😭😭😭

[orchid karma]

Small settlements at most outside going extinct and so on

[orchid karma]

And add more official content and ideas!

[rugged thorn]

They finally fixed the console multiplayer issue after 4 years. Now fix the god damn elevator issue techland. Why is it so hard 😭

[kind gyro]

The GRE lady IS the helicopter. She is a sentient helicopter, Im certain of it. xD

[iron compass]

Well there's not that many NPCs in the hall, in the cave...

[hushed cave]

castor Woods has a whole laboratory and military shit way bigger than the peacekeepers

[rugged thorn]

I’ve started to believe that tbh

[orchid karma]

Multiplayer hasn’t been stable often for the beast and 2. It’s always oddly been glitchy lol

[iron compass]

I hope that for you guys too.

[orchid karma]

But still fun to play co-op

[toxic ferry]

What are your problems with it? I don’t have many so I wanna know

[versed perch]

It’s pretty fixed

[rugged thorn]

Probably because they’re trying to use their own development system 😭😭

[rugged thorn]

You can’t play co-op and be in an elevator at the same time. One of you falls through and dies. It’s been a known issue for years and techland hasn’t done shit

[versed perch]

We got a bug fix coming soon as well I’m hoping that fixes the remaining bugs

[orchid karma]

Sentient Helicopter > Sentient Volatile

[hushed cave]

that's it? I'd list a hundred things

[rugged thorn]

That’s the only thing that makes me want to throw my Xbox through a window. The rest I could unfortunately learn to live with

[kind gyro]

DLC2 with Hakon as protagonist when

[toxic ferry]

Oh I never play coop so I didn’t even know about that, but that’s stupid how it hasn’t been fixed

[hushed cave]

I can never get over the spaghetti code ass movement sometimes

[rugged thorn]

They just recently fixed an issue where for four years if you played co-op you’d get stuck on an infinite “please wait” button for your next story interaction and have to restart your games

[versed perch]

Co op elevator
Nightrunner beds
TR bugs
And that’s about it other than some minor bugs

[toxic ferry]

It’s chopped at times it gets annoying 💔

[hushed cave]

the Freddy claws still have a broken hit box btw

like 3 years

[toxic ferry]

Oh yeah, that’s annoying too

[hushed cave]

community manager of the time told me she told the devs

THREE YEARS AGO

[rugged thorn]

I just had the glitch where I was infinitely getting in and out of a bed until I reset the game 😭

[versed perch]

I stopped using those beds cuz wtf 😂

[orchid karma]

[toxic ferry]

Four years?

[rugged thorn]

I never had it happen until recently 😭😭

[toxic ferry]

That’s insane

[orchid karma]

Im kinda wondering what’s going on with 2’s support I swear

[rugged thorn]

Yeah ever since the game came out until the Christmas update in 2025 so 3 years

[hushed cave]

nothin

nothings going on

[rugged thorn]

They’re too busy twiddling their thumbs with sentient helicopter lady

[toxic ferry]

It shouldn’t be that hard to find bugs to fix especially well known ones

[shadow iron]

is it just me or is this game getting harder?

[kind gyro]

GRE lady will have a final showdown with the returned Mother and it will be Sentient Helicopter vs Sentient Volatile. The fight that will decide humanity's fate!

[shadow iron]

when exactly do you start 1 hit killing biters

[kind gyro]

I think i smoked too much...

[iron compass]

Can I have some pls

[hushed cave]

if this was like 2 years ago where I was way more involved in the game I'd list off so many bugs but I can't remember anymore

[rugged thorn]

Unless they have to rewrite the entire code. Rockstar didn’t fix the act 2 heist glitch because they’d have to redo the entire game code but if you do it too much within a short amount of time they punish you

[hushed cave]

and I know they aren't fixed anyway cause what 3 updates in 2 years

[rugged thorn]

They rewrote the story 6 times too 😭😭

[orchid karma]

Pffft you good. I would accept any DLC ideas at this point because DL2 needs help heh

[rugged thorn]

The way dl1 was made I thought dl2 was bound to have a canon story extension. The beast was supposed to be that, but turning it into a stand alone gamr was an idea. Bc now I want a story expansion for the beast and we won’t get that

[kind gyro]

I experienced that for the first time after the last update actually

[toxic ferry]

I just meant FIND the bugs, like atleast address them or something since I’m assuming they have just said nothing about them

[orchid karma]

Depends on the level area you fight them on. Houndfield are scaled between 2-4 so they may be tankier until you reach beyond rank 6 or so. But you’ll still get stronger as you level up naturally to be able to

[rugged thorn]

Oh so they’re just breaking shit now 😭😭😭

[hushed cave]

apparently the game director for far cry 5 and new dawn is now the game director for Techland

is this huge or terrible news idk never played far cry 5

[rugged thorn]

They’re always like “we know! 😃”

[toxic ferry]

Well I love far cry 5, so it’s probably a good thing

[toxic ferry]

“We know and we won’t do anything ❤️”

[rugged thorn]

I would love if the beast had an expansion of crane and Aiden chasing down sentient lady and the fourth game starting off where they end up

[jagged pelican]

far cry 5 was pretty good. one of the best in the franchise. it wasnt amazing but it was good. I dont know what that means for dying light though. if it means the story wont be serviceable at best then its probably a good thing.

[orchid karma]

In the end of all things I wish Techland cared for 2. I’m just disappointed how it’s being handled. I can’t look at Techland the same again I swear

[rugged thorn]

Dl2 can have an expansion of all the shit crane went through in the 20 some years of being on the loose and captured

Start in the country side and just tear shit up

[jagged pelican]

that should just be for dltb lmao. why make it for dl2

[rugged thorn]

Because I want dl2 to have something 😭😭😭

[hushed cave]

the difference between pre tencent acquisition and post tencent acquisition techland is so damning

[rugged thorn]

Bloody ties was god awful

[jagged pelican]

thats fair

[toxic ferry]

I actually liked bloody ties

[jagged pelican]

it was ok. gameplay carried ofc. like it does with all of dl2.

[rugged thorn]

Bloody ties was too “HERE DAMN” imo 😭

[hushed cave]

I did too except for the gold medals

platinum

[timid walrus]

does dl2 worth it ?

[hushed cave]

whatever

[orchid karma]

Tencent are a terrible company let alone their reputation. At this point Techland are almost equally responsible for burning the Dying Light franchise to the ground at this point

[rugged thorn]

I didn’t care for it because why the fuck are we just friends with a random guy we never met in the lore

[orchid karma]

[toxic ferry]

Or it can just be Aiden after the events of the game

[jagged pelican]

thatd be preferable

[hushed cave]

there ACTUALLY WAS A EXPLANATION

BUT THEY CUT IT OUT

[iron compass]

[hushed cave]

and not even like before release

[rugged thorn]

Which also could work. Bro gets back with spike some how and we know which ending is canon

[hushed cave]

they fucking made an update to "streamline" the prologue

[rugged thorn]

How they plan to go break crane out

[hushed cave]

and cut out the entire ciro story

[orchid karma]

Bloody ties made no sense to me lol

[hushed cave]

did u play before that update

[orchid karma]

I do like their funny game references but that was cut out

Yeah

Lots of stuff got cut out

[rugged thorn]

I took the outfit and the blocking thing and never touched it again

[hushed cave]

what was even the point of that update man

[orchid karma]

Made Ciro’s stuff much like “why should I care?” Moment

[toxic ferry]

Cutting that out was so dumb, it just makes the DLC worse

[orchid karma]

But lots of DL2 stuff got cut unnaturally

Prologue with spike, Waltz dialogue, the hanging scene and much bazaar interactions more downgraded and removed

I dunno why :v

Bloody ties was also affected

Eventually

[rugged thorn]

Techland canr add an event without having a 40g update lol

[hushed cave]

wtf do you mean they cut out spike

and the hanging

when

[shadow iron]

i've also seen there's music for level 5 chases

so far i can only get to level 4

[iron compass]

Why did they remove those things?

[orchid karma]

Spike talking about Jane

[toxic ferry]

All the streamline shit is dumb as fuck bro, it just makes it worse

[orchid karma]

It’s gone

[jagged pelican]

like a couple months ago bro.

[shadow iron]

are those locked until central loop?

[iron compass]

Oh wait I levelled up what am I now

[hushed cave]

okay they are actively trying to sabotage themselves

[jagged pelican]

they just made aiden black out and end up on the noose

[orchid karma]

Who Do You Voodoo reference and other cutscene Spike interactions were cut too

lol

[rugged thorn]

The bazaar was the worst part of the game imo.

[iron compass]

I'm a biter! Nom nom

[hushed cave]

what on earth

[toxic ferry]

Top ten most pointless changes in gaming history

[rugged thorn]

The way that Sophie just fucks off after you get to the city

[orchid karma]

Makes people hate them more otherwise but yeh lol

[hushed cave]

it's like they are butchering a child in front of me

[orchid karma]

Nothing better to replace them with

[hushed cave]

prologue was the best part of the story

[rugged thorn]

I liked when they hung Carl

[hushed cave]

and they removed it

[orchid karma]

Just cut and not explained why

[orchid karma]

[toxic ferry]

I don’t remember that :(

[hushed cave]

how's this going through tymon

he would never

[toxic ferry]

I hate that guy

[rugged thorn]

I never knew theu did until my friend said “look up” 😭😭

[orchid karma]

If you side with the survivors, you can see his body dangling by the entrance door lol

[toxic ferry]

Ohhhh wait I remember now

😭

[orchid karma]

LOL

[iron compass]

It's strange that they cut stuff. A shame too because I'll never get to see those.

[toxic ferry]

“Hey bro there’s a surprise if you look up”

[hushed cave]

I forgot who Carl was I thought they cut out the peacekeeper hanging too

I wouldn't be surprised lowkey

[rugged thorn]

He said “you’re going to LOVE this” like I’m some monster from the witch trials 😂😂

[orchid karma]

There are old footage of people’s walkthroughs somewhere with the cut stuff

[orchid karma]

[iron compass]

Yeah guess I'd have to watch them just a shame

[rugged thorn]

I feel like they cut things out even after release.

[toxic ferry]

Slimecicle recorded his playthrough so the cut stuff should be there too

[orchid karma]

I watched them recently and I’m like why tf did Techland do this?!

[rugged thorn]

Cause some things I don’t remember them happening the same was as when I first played

[toxic ferry]

They did, but whyyyy

[jagged pelican]

techland just be cuttin things. before and after.

[orchid karma]

Even old bloody ties stuff with funny nods and references and the build up with Ciro gone lol

[jagged pelican]

corporate decision probably.

[orchid karma]

Made Bloody Ties more unappealing

I wish for DLC 2 for DL2

[toxic ferry]

I just see the notes for the next patch “removed parkour”

[orchid karma]

At this point

[orchid karma]

[hushed cave]

they kinda did with the stamina changes

climbing is meaningless now

[toxic ferry]

Removed a core mechanic

[hushed cave]

how do they explain the hospital scene?

with your first inhibitor

[toxic ferry]

Like they decided “hey let’s switch it up, make DL2 different than the first game” and back tracked for no reason

[jagged pelican]

you just have shit stamina until you finish the prolouge.

[rugged thorn]

Okay the stamina thing was annoying but after you get all the inhibitors it isn’t noticeable.

[jagged pelican]

after that its infinite

[hushed cave]

I didn't even notice but like the game itself is getting worse after tencent

[orchid karma]

As per usual. And you have limited stamina until then. The funny thing is the howler replaced by the volatile. Hakon afterwards still says the howler alerted the infected that night

[hushed cave]

it's like they're actively trying to destroy Techland

[rugged thorn]

I still play the game like I have limited stamina

[jagged pelican]

windmills and other activities that dont require tools are obsolete

[orchid karma]

Feels like they’re just killing DL2 off specifically at this point

[toxic ferry]

Literally motivated the player to get inhibitors aside from just the stat boosts

[hushed cave]

next update removed combat stamina

[orchid karma]

Cause they don’t know wtf they’re doing or doing it on purpose

[hushed cave]

to streamline the experience

[jagged pelican]

stamina is supposed to be managed. with parkour its even more fitting. but people complained you couldnt have infinite stamina like in dl1 so.

[rugged thorn]

And with the motivation to get the inhibitors. Aiden starting to change into a sentient volitile makes even more sense

[toxic ferry]

That would be terrible, that’s the only thing really making the game somewhat challenging (aside from the one shot fire lamps or wtv tf)

[iron compass]

Guess I'll have to mod DL2 to bring back some stuff as I know you can

[jagged pelican]

"my parkour survival game requires stamina when climbing!!!!"

[kind gyro]

I actually always though of dl as Far Cry with zombies and parkou xd

[toxic ferry]

Yeah that’s what I think of it too

[orchid karma]

Stamina change was odd. Inhibitors should be your key point to upgrading but yeah it’s gone now. Makes upgrading stamina pointless except the requirements to unlock certain perks lol

[rugged thorn]

I never played far cry before but my friend said how eerily similar dl1 and FC4 are 😭😭

[kind gyro]

and you can play as both with their beast powers.

[jagged pelican]

"I have to upgrade my character to be more resilient!!!"

[hushed cave]

crack ass theory: DL2 is costing tencent money cause the devs are passionate and love dl2 and wanna work on it, but tencent doesn't. so they're purposefully ruining the game while still doing their 5 year update promise

[rugged thorn]

I have questions but it would have to be in beast spoilers 😭😭

[iron compass]

I know there's a mod to bring the stamina mechanic back which sounds good. Nothing cheaty though, that's boring

[orchid karma]

Maybe maybe. But geez it doesn’t make Techland look good. It’s making my hatred for both Techland and Tencent grow. Making me wanna avoid their next installment easily

[hushed cave]

is that what was killing me last night every single time I tried to do a jai mission

[toxic ferry]

Probably, it killed me and almost killed me the run immediately after, it’s so fucking annoying 🙏

On the priceless mission

[hushed cave]

I was doing the one with the pyromaniacs

I kept just imploding

for no reason

[toxic ferry]

Well could’ve been that too

I think I exploded like once

[rugged thorn]

Everything from the 2nd to last quest in the beast to the end confused the fuck out of me.

[late widget]

it's only parkour stamina that's infinite, not combat stamina

[versed perch]

I tried using photo mode to see what Breckens wrench looks like in 3rd person because of the electricity but it didn’t show up 🥲

[hushed cave]

did they also change how stamina regenerates in combat or was it always so slow

[rugged thorn]

It has felt slower tbh

[versed perch]

Depends on your gear, mine regenerates fast because of my brawler gear but much slower with tank or range.

[jagged pelican]

you should still have to manage your stamina when you're climbing skyscrapers. its supposed to be a challenge to manage, thats the point, thats what the game's built around.

[rugged thorn]

I do have all tank armor on so I guess it makes sense why I’m slower

[jagged pelican]

probably. I never have a problem with it.

[versed perch]

They did change the stamina regen tho, you no longer regen stamina when drop kicking off the glider which allowed you to glide essentially forever and you don’t regen while falling either

[hushed cave]

no like I don't remember it taking so long to regenerate, like you swing , BOOM 50 percent of your god damn stamina, then it stays like that for like 3 seconds and it regenerates instantly

maybe it's nightmare

idk haven't played in a while

[versed perch]

I’m not sure, I stopped playing for months right before the Beast came out and I’ve been back for about a few weeks so I can’t tell

[rugged thorn]

There’s a set of 3 air vents in old villedor by the bazaar that I flew between to get the event travel 5000km thing done a few months ago 😭😭then they changed it to mostly “on foot”

[versed perch]

I can damn near swing forever depending on what weapon I use

[hushed cave]

if you have the regen on hit yeah

[late widget]

have no problem with it, And then I have stamina regen on the weapons

[orchid karma]

Nightmare tactical stamina slows down overall regeneration. But with gear it should even it all out. If you run out of stamina, it’s almost kinda stunted but I like that first game feel with it.

[versed perch]

With my gear and charm all 1h weapons hardly scratch my stamina and if the weapon has stamina regen on hit its infinite

[kind gyro]

I only know about the cut hang scene. Where can I find the others?

[versed perch]

YouTube has videos on it

[rugged thorn]

Ugh my Xbox recently played dashboard smells like showerless jock.

GTAV Overwatch dl1 dl2 DLTb and Spotify 😭😭

[versed perch]

Can’t remember who’s I watched but it was in depth

[hushed cave]

I came back after a year, put my game on nightmare and then swung my Polearm and I literally went out of stamina like immediately

shock

[late widget]

u need stamina regen on quick and power attack

[blissful ridge]

Idk if its just me but i can pick up my infected arrows as if they're normal arrows 😲

[primal summit]

I think of all the missions in Pilgrim Outpost this week, the most difficult must be killing two banshees during a chase.

Btw, i got elite night runner outfit

[rugged thorn]

This event is adding collectibles???? Now what happens if we don’t get all the community goals??

[blissful ridge]

I can now pick them up like normal arrows

[late widget]

and the most fun bounty

[primal summit]

Speaking of collectibles, I wonder if those will be required to the achievement of getting all the collectibles

[blissful ridge]

Its not one use 👀

[rugged thorn]

Tbh I just turned my game to easy to do the events and bounties

[bleak wind]

thats the easiest one

[iron compass]

I should really do the DL1 stuff I've just been pulled to other games

[primal summit]

I need a specific location where banshees appear to complete that

[bleak wind]

down there you have 2 of them spawning at night...if they dont spawn at first just move away and come back

[primal summit]

Time to complete the game, again

[bleak wind]

second option is convoys and elemental goons

[kind gyro]

Am I the only one who since the last update see infected with survivor skin?

[versed perch]

Where am I supposed to find 2 banshees to kill during a chase

Banshees don’t normally spawn during night, sometimes you see them on roof tops but it’s rare

[kind gyro]

Could you please show me where in the map is that location. I dont remember

[versed perch]

Okay cool I’ll check

[versed perch]

It’s next to the VNC you go there during the main story, go look for the fallen buildings

I’m garrison you can see it on the map if you look

[bleak wind]

of course....

[versed perch]

Found them 👍🏽

[bleak wind]

now make them gone 😄

[nova forge]

the last time i played DL2 i got stuck at a weird voitile misson where you go into a dark building full of volitiles can't remember what the misson name was called and i think there is more than that part but i will need to download DL2 again to see what the misson was called...

[orchid karma]

The others are made specific during certain videos. I watched gameplay walkthroughs or cutscene stuff generally. Especially the first release time bloody ties stuff too

YouTube yeh

[kind gyro]

Yeah, Im seeing them now. I cannot find someone who talks about it tho. I had to look for cutscenes compilation from before the update

I only seen the updated cutscenes and the differences

[orchid karma]

Yeah. Only a vary some of YouTubers did cut stuff but only very small snippets of it

Gotta watch the whole nine yards of long videos to see what was changed or removed which is kinda time consuming lol

[shadow iron]

i finally levelled up the toughness booster to almost full

cant wait to go around fighting volatiles now

[orchid karma]

Which difficulty are you playing on?

[shadow iron]

hard

[orchid karma]

Oh. Okie dokie early on you may have an edge depending on your armor and the area level you are about to fight volatiles in lol

[shadow iron]

i want to get my revenge

[orchid karma]

Go get ‘em tiger

[shadow iron]

in DL1 i could farm volatiles on nightmare with the help of my trusty OP booster

[orchid karma]

[orchid karma]

Bet

[shadow iron]

i have 18 boosters

i need 100

thankfully the upgrade means i need 1 poppy per booster instead of 2

[orchid karma]

Honestly nightmare isn’t that much harder from hard in DL2. Except armor is made 25% weaker and your boosters are slightly less effective. As you level up regardless, you can take on early volatiles either way. Boosters help on the edge of battles always

[shadow iron]

do you actually unlock guns? or is it all from DLC?

[kind gyro]

Yep, you unlock them in a quest chain

[orchid karma]

There’s unfortunately an answer I hate to acknowledge. You have to either buy them from micro transactions to gain certain access to certain guns*

Or

[kind gyro]

You have to have reach a certain story point tho

[orchid karma]

Grind the missions during central loop

With the Ubisoft grinding time you have to invest after a side quest you need to complete

[shadow iron]

i remember DL1 humans on nightmare could tank hundreds of SMG bullets

[orchid karma]

Humans in DL1 are annoying yeh lol

[shadow iron]

never forgetting that one time i had to empty all of my full SMG ammo reserves on 3 guys

[kind gyro]

Yep, I mean the survivor missions are fun the first times but then is just grindy xD

[orchid karma]

Nightmare on DL2 is a joke lol

[shadow iron]

hard in the beginning was much easier

[kind gyro]

Specialy if you want the golden weapons

[orchid karma]

True. But in lore sense in a way a little dumb ngl lol

[shadow iron]

in DL1 you could hardly kill a biter

[orchid karma]

Yep

[shadow iron]

i love Crane, but it's questionable he was a trained GRE agent with the lung capacity of an 80 year old smoker and the strength of 2 toddlers

[kind gyro]

And first time he reachs Harran he immediately gets his ass kicked and gets bitten xd

[shadow iron]

and his clothes were dirty

[orchid karma]

In DL1 regardless of your legend level, enemies will scale overtime. It’s what makes it a bit interesting

DL2 enemies don’t scale on your first playthrough with exceptions. But it’s because of the RPG elements they tied the system to that made it easy

[orchid karma]

Lol

[orchid karma]

Oop probably cause he fell and got concussed and confused. Letting his guard down as Tahir and Rais’s men got to him

[bleak wind]

You have free guns in tower raid

[sage basin]

so the "damage to infected" affix is just referring to Biters, right? Not all infected?

[orchid karma]

It should affect all types. I don’t see why it shouldn’t?

[versed perch]

It’s all infected

[kind gyro]

Im missing only ONE collectible but I cant have it cause I need to enter the Church of Saint John of God and I can't cause you need to do either Nightrunner quest or the PK equivalent. But I have neither cause I did the Juan/Renegades path xd

NG+ it is

[versed perch]

Those affixes other affixes are for specific infected so it would be additional

[sage basin]

I was just confused because there are so many specific affixes for one infected type, and then another affix that's just a global damage boost against all of them anyway

[versed perch]

Only nocturnal weapons have those special affixes which are for special infected it’s just a bonus but the weapons come with negatives like increased immunity drain every swing or increased immunity drain every time you take damage etc

I never use nocturnal weapons, that’s not to say they aren’t good because they definitely are I’m just not a fan of the glow it breaks my immersion I’m more into the grounded looking weapons

[orchid karma]

Ahhh I see. But don’t worry on it. It’s still a free damage increase in general for any infected you come across. Along with that viral/revenant damage stacking on top of it.

[orchid karma]

Fair

[sage basin]

I've actually been really liking them which is weird considering how much I hate "over the top" weapons. They feel so unique and alien

and minmaxing the affixes while you farm is so fun, been doing a great grind that's giving like 3 nocturnals a minute

it's fun to see all the crazy shit you can find

[versed perch]

I used the nocturnal Ishmael for awhile, it’s probably the best one. I just got tired of the glow so I went back to my normal weapons, he’ll most my weapons don’t even have mods on them. I keep one weapon with mods for special infected and for normal infected I use my main weapon which I switch out depending on how I feel. But right now it’s Breckens electric wrench which looks great and has good stats I like how the mod is built in rather than slapped onto it

[versed perch]

Agreed, DL2 has a lot of crazy shit you’ll find over time. Some over the top Easter eggs and Easter egg weapons it’s great. You should try to find as much as you can and then watch a video on the rest they’re great.

I love force choking infected or using the frying pan that comes back every time you throw it, you can get a soccer ball that does no damage it’s just fun to kick around in co op and all kinds of things

[shell bay]

Yo guys does someone have a weapon u don’t need and that deals more than 1k?

[versed perch]

Most weapons base damage in the game don’t go that high even 2h but with the right gear and legend skill points you can get over 1k

[kind gyro]

These are my main weapons and the high damage they can do with their respective gear. Of course every time I want to use another I have to quickly change the loadout xD

[bleak wind]

Pretty much maxed out...congrats great numbers

@kind gyro one advice try your claws with pilgrim gear...you will get +400/500 on that number

[kind gyro]

Yep, that is the number I have with the pilgrim gear

Each one of these pictures is with the best gear for them xD

[bleak wind]

Ohh ok 🙂

[kind gyro]

I just found out not long ago that parkour damage boost knuckeduster and I immediately get the first pilgrim gear xD

[shell bay]

Wow, my 2 only good weapons do 920…

[kind gyro]

Damn. Where did you get that? I didn't know you could get exotic version of that

[shell bay]

Can i get good weapons from crates? Some cheater or idk who gave me 999 of every crate in the game

[bleak wind]

Reward from first beta tower raid

[kind gyro]

Oh too bad xD

I can see the exotic version of the nightrunner claws as well. It is also from a limited event?

No wait is not the nightrunner ones

is similar

Double Daggers of the Night?

[bleak wind]

Double daggers of the night/there was a mini event infected were dropping those half a year ago

[kind gyro]

I see. There is the outpost version but I don't think is exotic

For one moment I though I could upgrade the blueprint to exotic and I was about to buy it in the outpost lol

[bleak wind]

You are right those are legendary

[versed perch]

Nice, The Test doing 794 base damage is really good

Do you get stronger exotics in Nightmare ? I don’t have any 1h weapons that do more than 700 base damage an I play on nightmare

I’ve got 53 exotics so far

[kind gyro]

iirc I get that one farming GRE Anomalies and opening the chests

It took me a looooooong while tho

[versed perch]

My highest base damage 1h weapon does 676

Wait nvm I have one that does 737

[limpid timber]

It is just for show. In Nighmare more, the First Pilgrim gear set is crap. I used it coz of my KUAI dagger parkour dmg buff

[hallow musk]

New game + how do i get rid of these fuckass quest markers??? i want the radar but I dont want it swarmed with things i cant be fucked to do a 2nd time

[versed perch]

Maybe with a mod, otherwise you’ve gotta do them. Or you can turn off the radar entirely

[hallow musk]

I've defended this games reputation too long....

i swear to god, I only did NG+ to free roam on a slightly harder difficulty

oh ill just turn radar off completely, i can compromise

dl2 goated, just as good as dl1

[amber granite]

lost a tower raid because of a bug lol

[rugged thorn]

I’ve been so lazy in dl2 that I’ve only been grinding legend levels in easy mode 😭😭😭which is a 6x less multiplier

Why the fuck are volatiles one shooting me In nightmare now

Bruh did they make nightmare more difficult

[versed perch]

Yep, awhile ago tho

People complained it was too easy, which it was. Now it’s a bit harder but not impossible, the beast is definitely harder on Nightmare but DL2 can get more chaotic

[rugged thorn]

I’ve been playing all the events on easy bc they didn’t make a different on how much candy you got per kill

And now I switched back to nightmare for the first time in months because the XP is better and it’s so much harder 😭

I didn’t care about the xp booster until I realized that it was going to take me ages longer to get all my levels

[versed perch]

Yeah it’ll do it to ya for sure 😅
Especially if you get used to being on an easier difficulty it can throw you off for a bit as you get back adjusted to nightmare

Nightmare, only playing at night while using boosters and you’ll be leveling up fast as shit. Especially since there’s so many ways to boost XP like military tech, infected trophies, legend points

[rugged thorn]

Yeah I realized it’s like too easy to get max legend levels on 2. I got bored at lvl 110 spamming stuffed turtle

[rugged thorn]

I need to use more boosters I only use health 😭😭

[versed perch]

I got up to 150 before it started to slow down but it was still pretty quick I just flew to 150. Yeah I didn’t use boosters on easier difficulties but I’ll use health regen and defense when in combat with special infected

Volatiles and spitters will rock you left and right if your not careful

[rugged thorn]

Yeah I alerted a single volatile by the fish eye and 15 of them jumped me at once

I guess I need to be using strength and stamina boosters too

How the fuck am I supposed to get on top of the building where lawans apartment is

This is actually making me so mad. These gliders need reworked so bad

[kind gyro]

I have the feeling I should rest a little, lol.

[green night]

rookie numbers

[versed perch]

Use the grapple and glider, if you really have to just climb it with the grapple and wall runs, you can grapple twice into a wall run and it resets the grapple so you can keep doing that back to back to scale any building

There is an air vent nearby you can use that takes you a good bit up as well, otherwise it’s a climb

[torpid iron]

I think they did

Now you'll need a proper tank set to tank Volatile shots

[rugged thorn]

Damn I’m 44 armor

[torpid iron]

Not just that, the gear affixes too most importantly

9% infected dmg resistance day/night for each gear piece

[rugged thorn]

I’ve been selling all my shit but my tank armor bc I never really knew how it worked or what is good

[blissful ridge]

Spideraiden spider aiden

[torpid iron]

Unfortunately artifact tank armor is like a pure rng/event drop now, they removed it from Sola's shop

[versed perch]

You’ll love The Beast, you keep your momentum and you hold the button instead of tap to release so you can fluently swing and keep you speed it’s great

[rugged thorn]

Damn I have some event outfits I put away. And some other things

But idk what to do really

Is there something very very specific I need to look for ? Like percentages wise. The infection thing

I’m mostly wearing the things I got from the anomalies and the renegade mask

[blissful ridge]

Nocture showed me how it works and it looks fun

Sadly not for old gen yet

[open pier]

What's with dying light 2 at the moment? Got back on after on after a month or so and even got a near perfect set of shield armor and messing around even on normal when the volatiles jump on me im pressing the button to get them off me but twice In a row im just being killed in one shot

[blissful ridge]

We got revolver

Event for dlb crane outfit

#🎮︱game-news here's more

[versed perch]

Either turn the difficulty down or only play during day time until you get good enough to survive at night and or on harder difficulties, the game can be hard and it has a decently high skill ceiling

Also you can change the action from tapping to holding which makes situations like that easier

[torpid iron]

Carrying a uv bar just makes the grab escape one tap

[limpid timber]

For tank gear, 2 crucial affixes make the Tank set a god-tier one.

• Infected damage reduction,
• Nighttime damage reduction.
  @bleak wind can show u a full stats of the god-tier tank set.
  Anyways, those stats can be stacked up from blue and above rarity gear pieces, and they don't need to be an artifact rarity grade.
  God-tier tank set gives U total physical damage immunity at night from infected

[versed perch]

Yeah but not everyone has them, especially early on

I stay loaded with them

Uv bars are my bestfriend on DL2 😂

[torpid iron]

UV bars usually get unlocked early on, before you even go to the central loop

[rugged thorn]

Later when I’m not helping a friend in gta ill send my armor stats here

[versed perch]

They cost to craft, not everyone is a loot goblin, everyone plays differently.

[torpid iron]

As long as the total infected resistance stack is like 50% or so you're good iirc

[versed perch]

UV bars are one of the first bp I maxed, they’re not as good on nightmare but they’re still get you out of a pinch and keep volatiles off you

[torpid iron]

I don't grind loot anymore, just 5 tower raids a week.

[rugged thorn]

Yeah I ONLY have my health boosters maxed

[versed perch]

Same here, it’s pretty efficient

[rugged thorn]

I never needed anything else lol

[versed perch]

I don’t need loot anymore, I still find myself picking stuff up out of habit though

[rugged thorn]

I’m a loot goblin ☹️💔

[torpid iron]

The first things I maxed were UV bars and Lockpicks.

[versed perch]

Same here 😅

[torpid iron]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-of-clans-goblin-goblin-coin-coin-gif-925102585641249656

[versed perch]

I’ve got enough to get Villedor up and running again like the fall never happened, and I’ve killed enough infected to clear the city 😂😂

[torpid iron]

I'll max diy grenades next

[versed perch]

Would be kinda cool if there was a mod that set a specific amount of infected, whatever the total population was and when you killed them they didnt respawn so eventually the city would be cleared

[torpid iron]

Should've done it with volatiles

Logically there can only be so many volatiles at once

[versed perch]

I know for a fact I’ve killed every volatile in Castor woods 😅
Those mfs take a long time to evolve and I’ve killed thousands

[rugged thorn]

When you clear out all the volatile caves in dl1 it should reduce them 😭😭

[torpid iron]

Funny how volatiles are like the final stage of evolution and yet there're more volatiles than goons

[rugged thorn]

So the baba makes you go for a black volatile thays supposed to be the strongest volatile. But there’s like no lore behind it. And the tyrant is stronger

[versed perch]

Yeah I think it was just Thrown together, should’ve been the tyrant instead, and even though it’s “black” it’s not actually black it’s like a shade darker than the regular ones i remember my first time doing that quest I was looking around all over the place for a black volatile thinking it was going to look like how the alpha volatile looks in The Beast 😂

I actually really liked Baba’s questline, sure it’s nothing fancy but it was a good bit a fun and it was satisfying to kill the prick at the end

[torpid iron]

DL2 volatiles look skinnier than beast volatiles

[limpid timber]

@rugged thorn My tank set isn't a god-tier one, but it gives me sufficient physical damage reduction for level 5 chase tyrants farming.
God-Tier one needs to have 30%+ Infected damage reduction and 50%+ Nighttime damage reduction for total physical damage immunity.

[rugged thorn]

I guess I have to loot goblin now because I sell a lot of my armor.

Oh my armor sucks for night lol

[limpid timber]

Just pay attention to those 2 stats and not the rarity of the gear item. It doesn't need to be artifact rarity. If u focus on just those 2 stats u'll get higher values for them from lower rarity level then artifact

[rugged thorn]

My stuff is immunity progression speed. I have special artifact gear on

So damage resistance. Night and infected damage reduction

[limpid timber]

Forget about that immunity affix coz immunity boosters of max level are easy to farm, just damage reduction

[icy fiber]

Only tank gear or brawler can work too ?

[limpid timber]

BTW even in Nightmare mode (immunity pool is 1/2 of other modes) isn't an issue

[rugged thorn]

I have 40 minutes of immunity on easy lol. But I’ll see after gta if I have anything that does that

I have like 400 immunity boosters so I’m not worried I’m more worried about having enough materials for toughness and strength boosters

[open pier]

I'm max level with near a god role shield armor set and im on NG+ 3. I've never had volatiles just be able to do that before which is why im baffled. Even on nightmare takes about 7 hits from a volatile to kill me

[limpid timber]

Brawler works great, but u need to pay attention to more affixes for it to work properly. ( stamina ones and damage immunity ones)
and Brawler is my main set

[orchid karma]

Brawler isn’t bad to have for a mix. Avoid getting brawler gloves. They don’t offer overall gear value. Tank armor can outcompete in terms of even elemental resistance if you get good stats and obviously the required percentages between infected/or human and day/night to get invincibility

[rugged thorn]

Wow my message got blocked 💀

Lol

Ive never used a glitch to my advantage and joking about it got me warned 💀

[orchid karma]

I think however to get easier day and night obviously early on at a high percentage base is mainly the renegade boss mask

Which is neat overall if you have it that is~

[icy fiber]

Hm

[torpid iron]

I'm gonna get that pilgrim bundle so that I can fly around the map more. Central loop parkour is really boring compared to old Villedor.

[orchid karma]

[limpid timber]

The issue I have with Tank sets is stamina consumption and stamina regeneration speed. That's why I run with Brawler well, most of the game except for Tyrants farming during lvl5 chases. Then I put my Tank gear on

[orchid karma]

That’s true. But I believe there is an affix stat for stamina regen on tank if I recall. But gotta grind for it I can’t imagine which getting all those stats in one go may seem impossible

[limpid timber]

BTW, more damage is dealt with Braawler gear set than Tank just coz of frequent crits with 1h weapons that u get from low stamina consumption

[orchid karma]

1H is best for DPS no doubt. It can outcompete 2H. Still being tanky and immortal is a very nice exchange heh

[orchid karma]

Yeah the bots and moderation against that stuff is quite strict but I dunno. I can understand why it needs to be enforced here and there though lol

[versed perch]

Yeah I love my 1h and brawler set

[torpid iron]

Never found 2H fun ngl. It is slow as hell and is a huge problem when you're flocked by virals

[versed perch]

Not invincible though, I’ve got great damage resistance but I like having more stamina

[torpid iron]

The only time I use 2H is when I'm playing tower raids

[versed perch]

Me neither, it’s fun to use every once in awhile but to main it is crazy to me

[orchid karma]

There are secret benefits to using 2H. Less stagger, allows you to hit multiple targets with a tad bit more range, and has high damage but dps kinda suffers

[versed perch]

The polearm is the most fun to use but even then I hardly touch it

[orchid karma]

Compared to DL1’s 2H… yeah no lol

It’s bad

lol

[rugged thorn]

Fr. There’s a glitch in dl1 that gets you max level within an hour and half the community did it 💀

[orchid karma]

I played through the game naturally. You level up decently fast by just playing the game

[rugged thorn]

Oof I use the electric elemental pole arm from the tower raids 😭😭

[rugged thorn]

I got really bored of spamming stuffed turtle

[orchid karma]

Haha oh yeh Stuffed Turtle

[rugged thorn]

What should I be using as a weapon in dl2 I use two handed slashing mostly

[orchid karma]

Wait there’s the scarecrow charm in the game that offers 50% melee resistance I just noticed… does that make you tankier lol

[rugged thorn]

Yep, I use it on everything

[orchid karma]

Since no enemies use guns in DL2… that is quite strong then LOL

[rugged thorn]

I was s debating just running around with a shotgun at night 💀

Idk y my other message deleted. Should I keep all my legend level items? A lot of them are the same and really clog up my stash

[orchid karma]

Up to you. If the weapons are unique to some degree I would personally keep it while scrapping everything else

[rugged thorn]

I mean I was thinking of keeping one of every unique weapon from the boxes and then scrapping everything else

I forgot what some of the event weapons were tho

I usually buy one of everything in events

[orchid karma]

Yep just to free up space

[rugged thorn]

I don’t think I’ll ever use my legend crate weapons tbh lol

[limpid timber]

I maxed my DL1 Crane in my current save in some 30 hours b4 starting the Airdrop mission. Farmed 6K+ packs from stuffed turtle (speed runs 3 packs each run) wearing this⬇️
So it took me something over 30 hours to max Survivor, Agility, Power and Legend 250
Vomited for a whole day after, but that is beside the point

[rugged thorn]

Bro 😭😭😭 the last part.

But I usually do all 5 paxks in the stuffed turtle. And get the extra gauze lol

Someone plz tell me why I have like 10 of lawan’s bows in my stash lol

[limpid timber]

Nailer or paperclip? U can get them from various locations.

[rugged thorn]

Paper clip. Each one of them I’ve gotten from her apartment on NG+ runs

[limpid timber]

Anyways LL50 chest -> guaranteed Baard's Call Bow and LL100 chest -> Winter's Bow. Small chance of exotic variants, otherwise legendary ones