💬︱dying-light-2

[zinc pivot]

Exactly why diversity is needed

Do people use Medic or Survivor Gear at all? Like genuinely

[dark violet]

dude you do know why he was fired right?

[modern pulsar]

bro had some allegations, tl went with the, guilty until proven innocent route

[zinc pivot]

Yes I know, Sexual allegations

[modern pulsar]

bro was proven innocent, the dmg was already done

[dark violet]

ye and it sucks but techland did what they thought was best for the time

[zinc pivot]

Best for the PR, not for the game

[vivid fractal]

Wait wait how tf did we get off topic from the game itself lol

[zinc pivot]

We are still on the DL2 topic, wdym

Literally talking why someone got fired from DL2 writing team

[dark violet]

Ye and what would people have have said if chris was still on the team with those allegations

[zinc pivot]

Innocent until proven guilty

[dark violet]

yes but at the time people would have not wanted him on dl2 team

[zinc pivot]

America is the only country that I know of, that have Guilty until Proven Innocent

[modern pulsar]

social media*

[zinc pivot]

Which also lead to alot of people innocent behind bars

[vivid fractal]

Lol u trust America more then anyway else 🤣

[zinc pivot]

No, Im just saying that its practically the standard now

Some dumb idiot make a made up allegations and ruin someone else career

[hollow bay]

I'm trying to do the towers rogue like for a little bit with someone, anyone down? Ps lfg

[zinc pivot]

And the idiot didn't get any punishment

[modern pulsar]

at least chris got some 7 digit compensation so

[zinc pivot]

"Oh oops, I mistaken him for another guy even though I name him several times"

back to DL2, its a good game for its own, I can tell you that

But to be called a sequel for DL1 is a big fall

[dark violet]

my guy your just rage baiting at this point it is a better sequel parkour is much better combat is good

[zinc pivot]

Alot of games that have sequel improve from the prequel, L4D, Portal, Half Life

Tf you mean rage baiting

[modern pulsar]

combat is better, but parkour took 5 steps forward and 2 steps back sadly 😭

[dark violet]

theres no way you don't think dl2 is a better sequal

[zinc pivot]

Its a different game, DL1 is "A Guy trying to survive in zombie apoc with parkour skills"

No, I dont think DL2 is a better sequel

[hollow bay]

@dark violet number 1 is also too easy I did a potion build my first time and couldn't be hurt by the most dangerous zeds for more than one damage for most of the game

[scarlet locust]

is there anyone who would like to play DYING LIGHT 2 and finish it together on PC

[zinc pivot]

DL2 is "A Parkour master trapped in zombie world"

[dark violet]

well ye what the fuck you think we gonna learn parkour all over again

[modern pulsar]

tbh that is not bad in it itself

[zinc pivot]

Its the same as do you want Boiled Eggs with Fried Potato or Boiled Potato with Fried Eggs

[modern pulsar]

but the game's direction overall makes the game an action game rather than a horror game

[zinc pivot]

Yes, I can agree, but to be called a sequel to DL1 is the issue

Exactly

[modern pulsar]

tl made the naming

if they called it living darkness it would be as bad of a game as it is now, and it would be compared to dl

[zinc pivot]

Techland make a survival horror game with action

not action game with little bit horror

[zinc pivot]

This is my point

Its fine as its own game

[modern pulsar]

I think the color palette fucked up the horror mostly

[zinc pivot]

Just dont call it DL2

[hollow bay]

@modern pulsar you can do both look at the suffering

[zinc pivot]

That too, it doesn't look scary

zombie doesn't look scary

[modern pulsar]

the moment you turn on the flashlight, you can see 5kms ahead and it makes everything look flat

[dark violet]

motherfucker I swear to god

[zinc pivot]

^

What? im putting valid points here

[modern pulsar]

?

[fluid mountain]

Good gun with silencer from tower raid

[dark violet]

so what we gonna call it dl the night game

[hollow bay]

@modern pulsar horror and action

[fluid mountain]

The zombie didn't hear the sound of the shot

[zinc pivot]

Just call it Pilgrim Survivor or some shit

[hollow bay]

Resident evil is a good example as well

[modern pulsar]

yeah but I think dl2 tries to be much harder an action game rather than a horror game

[dark violet]

just because it ain't a good sequal in your eyes does not mean the game ain't dl2

[modern pulsar]

tbh don't compare re to dl

[fluid mountain]

Let's also have Resident Evel 9 for Leon from Evel 4

[zinc pivot]

put it this way then. if I ask you to play Minecraft vs Minecraft Dungeons, which one you pick?

[modern pulsar]

re builds upon the fundemental, that you try to survive, with horror

[zinc pivot]

Both have Minecraft as name

[hollow bay]

@modern pulsar I'd disagree simply because they removed potion builds which make number 1 the most unscary horror game you can play volatiles doing 1 damage for 10 minutes straight isn't scary

[zinc pivot]

Both have same Voxel graphics

[dark violet]

minecraft

[zinc pivot]

but one is a Adventure game and one is dungeon crawling

[modern pulsar]

what do you mean by that

what game specifically, I have a hard time understanding it 😭

[zinc pivot]

Exactly my point

Why do you pick minecraft? isn't Minecraft Dungeons a newer game?

Therefor, its a better game?

It have Minecraft too in its name

[hollow bay]

@modern pulsar my first and only playthrough I speced my build into potions and once I got the map free enough for ingredients I was able to make a potion that'd last 10 minutes that reduces damage taken from any hit to 1 damage its the best build but it ruins the game

[zinc pivot]

When you put a game name with something people already accustomed to, they will expect it from that game, and not on its own

[modern pulsar]

which game 😭

[hollow bay]

@modern pulsar dying light 1

[zinc pivot]

Dying Light 1, Endurance Booster

[hollow bay]

I find it much less scary because of that

[zinc pivot]

its called a booster for a reason Thahomie

you dont use it all the time, if you use it all the time, ofc its ruins the fun

plus, On nightmare, the duration is only 30 second

[hollow bay]

I did a potion build inspired by my Witcher build with my friend. Most of the first half I was useless until I was god

[modern pulsar]

yeah but if you use a booster you kind of boost yourself specifically

[zinc pivot]

^

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot when you can have 10 of them and go to the same spot for more it's more like a difficulty lowerer

[zinc pivot]

you complain the game being too easy because you use overpowered weapon, boo hoo

[modern pulsar]

no need to mock tho

[zinc pivot]

yeah I know, people that keeps saying "I find this op weapon in this game and its so easy now"

I cant get around their head on why

So you want a challenge on the game, but you keep using the Op stuff to make the game easier, then complain the game being too easy

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot it's a game mechanic that's been implemented intentionally that kills the game that you have to use nightmare to avoid your saying?

The fact that there is no stuff makes it less scary

Dying light 2 is better about that

Op stuff*

[zinc pivot]

the issue is the same as you picking the easy difficulty and calling the game too easy

[modern pulsar]

tbh the game has to cater to low ball normal players

so op stuff will be inherently inside any game

[zinc pivot]

^

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot I choose the hard difficulty I never pick easy in any game it's boring

[zinc pivot]

are you sure?

[modern pulsar]

especially, both game, is a leveling game, the game has to somehow emphatize on the "fact" that you grow or the world around you is "bigger"

[zinc pivot]

Hard and nightmare cuts the duration to 30 second

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot not if you build into it

[zinc pivot]

wdym "build into it"

you can't build into it, its only 2 skill points

[hollow bay]

Perks

[zinc pivot]

yes, only 2 skill points

unless you keep going to get more algae and herbs over and over

Then whos fault is that?

[hollow bay]

The fact that you can make it the devs fault

[zinc pivot]

So you are complaining that the game is too easy when you grind for the OP stuff

[late widget]

That's why I don't play with OP weapons and I dismantle all the exotics I get. I have no interest in them.

[zinc pivot]

So if I can make a super OP weapon to one shot a volatile, its devs fault now?

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot the fact that you have the option is the issue

[zinc pivot]

So what you want? less options?

[modern pulsar]

tbh the problem with difficulty is that the ai is at a toddler level

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot they did implement that did they not?

[zinc pivot]

Yes, and its DLC, isn't it?

[hollow bay]

No

[zinc pivot]

its DLC my dude

[hollow bay]

Not the potion build

[modern pulsar]

not really, just limiting the crafting resources would work

[hollow bay]

Either way the implemented that

[modern pulsar]

maybe it should respawn every game week or so

[zinc pivot]

okay, now go to harran prison on nightmare

[hollow bay]

@modern pulsar that's true but they didn't do that

[zinc pivot]

See if you can do it without booster and then tell me why they have option to have booster

[modern pulsar]

both dl has some abysmal, resource gathering

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot and take 1 damage from the whole unit

[zinc pivot]

now do it without booster

[hollow bay]

Why? I don't have to nothing makes me not do ut

[zinc pivot]

Nothing makes you have to do it

its an option, you complaining about the option

you know how stupid this sound?

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot the devs let meso why wouldn't I? I'd be stupid not too

[zinc pivot]

its as stupid as saying that you play GTA San Andreas, put on the god mode cheat and say the game is too easy

its in the game, its an option

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot that's a cheat, this isnt

[zinc pivot]

its still an option isn't it?

[hollow bay]

There are literally perks boosting this

[zinc pivot]

and there is a reason to use cheats

[hollow bay]

Yes an option that disables achievements, this doesnt

[zinc pivot]

Okay, if there is a gun in your room right now, do you go out and shoot at people?

[hollow bay]

This is a mechanic

[zinc pivot]

your point is the same

"it exist in the game, therefore I need to abuse it"

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot no it's not my point is this, if there is a gun next to me and someone tries to attack me it's a lot less scary than me not having one

[zinc pivot]

Its the same as saying "There is an op armor and weapon in the game, I have to use it, no one tells me not to use it"

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot you'd be stupid not too

[zinc pivot]

And then complaining about the game being too easy?

[hollow bay]

You'd be outperformed by others because you didnt

[zinc pivot]

Thats your own choice, not the game

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot it's a dev choice

[zinc pivot]

Okay

[hollow bay]

If it's in the game it doesn't make it your fault

[zinc pivot]

Okay, lets put it this way then

Im playing a game, there is a tough boss

There is a weapon in the game that lets you kill the boss instantly, but it cost 5$ irl

its in the game, its offered to you, its your choice

do you use it?

[hollow bay]

If you want to sure, the devs put it there so you can

If that costs the game that's on the

[zinc pivot]

Doesn't mean you need it

[copper crest]

bruh what kind of logic is that? just because its available doesnt mean you have to use it. Its just like in real life, just because theres gun irl doesnt mean you HAVE to use it to end someone's life.

[zinc pivot]

Exactly, he is like that dumb idiot that things everything in life should be used

[copper crest]

in the end, the choice is all yours

[hollow bay]

@copper crest ok, if someone runs at you with a knife and you hang a gun your not using it?

[copper crest]

you can CHOOSE NOT TO

[zinc pivot]

ofc you use the gun, but complaining that the gun is too OP is your issue

[hollow bay]

The choice existing is what kills the immersion

[zinc pivot]

No, Delay, this is the issue

[copper crest]

thats the point, its a choice

[zinc pivot]

The issue is not the choice, is you complaining after

"Someone attacked me with a knife, I shoot him with a gun, if everyone have a gun, this wouldn't happen"

[hollow bay]

Let me put it this way if I stage a gladiator fight and I give one of them a gun how long and interesting do you think the fight will be?

He'd be stupid not to use it

But the fight wouldn't be interesting

[zinc pivot]

thats his choice, not yours

you want the entertainment, HE wants survival

[hollow bay]

It's mine, I put it in the arena

[copper crest]

I have the firearms in my stash, my inventory is composed of red rarity weapons and yet I STILL USE the blue weapons enemies drop when i kill them. Its a choice

[hollow bay]

He didnt

@copper crest a choice, not a requirement

The fact that you can is what makes it less scary

[zinc pivot]

okay, lets go with your logic, you stage a arena fight, there is 4 gladiators, one of them you give a gun.

you want entertainment, why do you give him a gun in the first place?
he wants survival, so he will use the gun. but you give the gun and then complaining that "he uses the gun, its not fun to watch"

[copper crest]

isnt that a compliment then? thats essentially a hidden difficulty slider that you have control of.

[hollow bay]

If your struggling, just pop something on no need to change strategies

[zinc pivot]

Stupid problem require stupid solution

Now answer me, whos fault is that

[dark violet]

holy shit you guys still going on lmao

[zinc pivot]

the gladiator picking up the weapon or you providing the weapon?

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot I'm saying I wouldn't give him the gun you illustrated my point it'd be less interesting

It's my fault for making it available

It directly changes the result

[modern pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1174510817316708372/1341074743658549348/attachment.gif

[zinc pivot]

See, the issue is that you thinking differently

[late widget]

And I use 250-500 damage weapons. 2000+ damage weapons are nothing for me

[modern pulsar]

take a sip of water

[zinc pivot]

you thinking as the arena provider AND the gladiator

[copper crest]

dude, are you anti 2nd ammendment irl? coz youre starting to sound like those ppl

[hollow bay]

@copper crest it's an anology

[zinc pivot]

you want the truth? this is the truth

you (the game devs) make an arena for the gladiator (players) to fight on

you provide a gun (OP weapon) for the gladiator to use

then you (the game devs) complain that people use the gun because its too easy?

no, you as the GLADIATOR, complain it because its too easy

[hollow bay]

No me as a spectator trying to enjoy the fight, I'd be upset it's a waste

[zinc pivot]

you looking it AS the gladiator, not the PROVIDER

Same thing, why you give them a gun in the first palce?

you are the player here, not the game devs

[hollow bay]

Exactly my point

[copper crest]

how are you the spectator's pov when you claim youre the one using the gun?

[zinc pivot]

This is exactly my point

you literally said, you want entertainment, then YOU give the gun to the gladiator

And then YOU complain that the gladiator uses it, making the fight less fun

In this case, YOU are the game devs, NOT the player

[hollow bay]

That's not much different than making a game too easy optionally

[zinc pivot]

The player is the GLADIATOR, the ONE uses the gun

[hollow bay]

Your illustrating my point

[zinc pivot]

THATS WHY THERE IS DIFFICULTY SETTING MY DUDE

ITS THE SAME THING

[copper crest]

also, it doesnt rly ruin immersion because the enemies dont have guns, only grenades which the player also have access way before the gun update

[zinc pivot]

No, Delay, we are making a hyperbolic examples

What Homie says is this

[hollow bay]

When you can choose the hardest difficulty and still breeze it's doesn't immerse very well in my opnion

[dark violet]

omg just wrap it up this is a dl2 channel idk if you guys are even still talking about dl2 if your not just go talk in general

[copper crest]

it all boils down to your choice, do you use it or not. If you play to maximize your dmg output then you can. If you wanna play but want the enemies to be able to fight back then you can do that as well. Its all your choice.

[zinc pivot]

This is his example, read it carefully

"if I stage a gladiator fight" then you are the game devs, making the game
"and I give one of them a gun" then you are actively giving the players, the option of OP item
"how long and interesting the fight will be" the players wouldn't find it interesting because they are fighting for their life, you are the one WATCHING for entertainment, you are the game devs that ask "Will this be a fun experience"

now, the issue. "but the fight wouldnt be interesting". Who is saying this? the gladiator or the spectators/provider?

[hollow bay]

@copper crest true but games that don't give you that freedom will always be more scary

[zinc pivot]

Your point basically says "if I make a game, and I give them OP weapons, will the game be fun?"

[copper crest]

Most zombie games have guns anyway, why does dl2 have to be different?

[zinc pivot]

the game devs NEVER complain the game is not fun, YOU complain the game is not fun, you are the gladiators, you think every enemy is too easy because you have the gun

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot your missing the fact that the buyer and the player are separate in a gladiator situation which isn't the case for a game your the participant in the game

And the buyer

[zinc pivot]

Okay, the buyer is the spectator? but not the player?

[modern pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1109169855048990851/1340608778697052191/FreakTymon.gif

[zinc pivot]

So you buy a game but not play it

you see how stupid your arguement is?

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot when it comes to gaming yes, you pay to play. In an area you don'tpay to fight

@zinc pivot I think your misinterpreting things on purpose

[zinc pivot]

the winner gets paid, thats how gladiators work

Jesus fucking christ

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot they are usually slaves

[winter zealot]

Because being a hack n slash bash melee parkour game made it unique... Adding stuff that every other game has makes it less interesting.

[zinc pivot]

Which is paid by their freedom

[hollow bay]

@zinc pivot that's not payment that's basic human rights

[zinc pivot]

THATS PAYMENT IN GLADIATOR TIMES

NOW YOU ARE GOING FOR SLAVERY EXAMPLE WITHOUT GAMING CONTEXT

how stupid can you be jesus christ

[hollow bay]

You are the one saying they got paid bro

[copper crest]

Guns were already in dl1 and it proved you can still be interesting

[zinc pivot]

They got paid for freedom, if they win, they get to live free

Look, give me an example that easy to understand for you

Then I'll dissect them, and then you tell me why my dissection is wrong

[hollow bay]

That's like saying we pay prisoners in Jail with freedom after they serve that's not payment your just reinstating rights

[zinc pivot]

if you can't do that, then you dont know what are you talking about

[late widget]

And no one is forced to use them, just because they exist. I have never used guns in DL2, and never will. And in "The beast" the same for me no guns

[zinc pivot]

Yes, but in that example, thats how it works

[winter zealot]

Not everyone uses guns... The rest like the unique melee parkour game.

[copper crest]

exactly

[nocturne obsidian]

i miss the old main menu 😔

[zinc pivot]

Now, give me an example of how giving player the option in games with OP stuff ruins the player fun?

[copper crest]

its your choice

[zinc pivot]

Here, let me make an example

[slender phoenix]

[copper crest]

Look at elden ring, its a very hard game but you can make the most op build that acn make bosses look like a joke but ppl still choose not to and even do challenge runs. Because its their choice, its a difficukty slider you are in control of.

[modern pulsar]

techland adding the goofy microtransaction looking aah main menu 😭

[zinc pivot]

I want to go to another city. I ask for a vehicle from a rental (game provider). they give me 2 Options, A Motorcycle (Less OP) or a Car (OP).

If I choose a Car (OP), then I get to my destination faster and more comfortable, but then you complain about why travel duration is so short and you feel comfortable

if I choose a motorcycle (less OP), I get to my destination about the same time as normal people, then say "wow this travel duration is decently good"

[copper crest]

It doent necessarilly ruin the power dynamics because you are never forced to use guns against a zombie. Its your choice.

[zinc pivot]

So you have a choice that the rental give you, you choose the OP one, because ofc its better, but then you complain about the game being too short and easy

and then you complain to the rental "why do you guys give me a car, this is way too good, just stop doing it and give us motorcycle instead"

even though it cost the same for you to rent either one

thats basically @hollow bay Logic

[copper crest]

Thats like saying its a gun store owner's fault that they made guns available to purchase, not you who did a mass school shooting a few minutes ago.

[zinc pivot]

^

[copper crest]

that logic doesnt fly

[zinc pivot]

Its their fault for making automatic guns, Its not my fault i use it to do mass shootings

[zinc pivot]

and I add, its like buying a gun from a gun store, killing bunch of people and saying "See? this is why guns are bad, it just killed bunch of people"

Not you who pulled the trigger

its the gun fault for giving you the option to kill people

[copper crest]

I think its just a way of evading responsibility in the actions you do in the game. Maybe also a reflection of the user's psyche irl.

[zinc pivot]

Its definitely users psyche irl

[rare tulip]

Wats wrong using guns in a video game homie

[copper crest]

theres no problem in it

[zinc pivot]

we were discussing another thing Legacy

[slender phoenix]

yea it seems like you guys were discussing for an hour about this lol.

[zinc pivot]

Someone was complaining that there is an OP item that makes the game too easy, but he keeps using it and say "Hey, this game is too easy, its a bad game for giving me the choice of having OP weapon, they should remove it"

[zinc pivot]

because its hard to argue with an idiot

Stupid problem require stupid solutions

[copper crest]

and thats perfectly fine. Discussions dont have a time-limit, we arent in a court hearing. This is discord.

[rare tulip]

Its discord homies

Troll a bit.

[slender phoenix]

Ur not srong lol

[rare tulip]

Aint dat deep

[slender phoenix]

Wrong

[rare tulip]

Why u dons typing novels

[copper crest]

if everyone trolls, theres never a civil discussion to be had

[rare tulip]

Yeah but its not dat deep to have 1 hour convos

Also lol

We need a good balance.

[copper crest]

Youre just not used to ppl NORMALLY talking thats why a 1 hr conversation feels alienating to ytou.

[slender phoenix]

I mean tbh its fine discussing things for an hour but ut gets draining

[rare tulip]

Nah im used to discussing stuff dat matter

[slender phoenix]

With certain subjects

[copper crest]

you either troll or post a meme

[rare tulip]

Not renting about a video game for hours

[copper crest]

and youre used to ppl
talking
like
this
thats why

[rare tulip]

And u for sure know me mr delaysfx

[upbeat apex]

how is it possible to get out of the antenna? stuck between it and the wall

[rare tulip]

Get a grip.

[copper crest]

ofc because if not, you wouldnt have a problem with ppl talking for an hr

[rare tulip]

Be more masculine and manlylike.

I dnt have a problem i do not care as much as U

Just funky.

[copper crest]

I already am, notice how the discussion didnt devolve to spitting on each other's faces?

[rare tulip]

U couldn't even reach my face irl unless u climb on a chair so no biggy

🧔‍♂️ 🫵

[copper crest]

you really cant take any conversation serious do you? You just have to do a trolling in the middle of it

[rare tulip]

1v1 me vc rap battle.

[copper crest]

exactly, i dont have time for ppl who cant act normally in a conversation.

[rare tulip]

Bahahaha.

U have buggati mistral on ur pfp i have it in my garage.

We are not the same homie.

[slender phoenix]

[upbeat apex]

wdym, i'm at the beginning

[arctic crest]

Hello guys

How is TR?

[slender phoenix]

eh i hopped back on it for one raid, it was alright.

[arctic crest]

It's been 20 days since I've played my last raid

[slender phoenix]

tbh i don't even feeling like hoping on tower raid, it's just i grinded until level 25 i don't see any point

and it's not like you can level up ur perks after 35

[arctic crest]

You already 25?

[slender phoenix]

yea lol

[arctic crest]

I'm only 15 Sola

[slender phoenix]

for sola

ive been 25 for like a week or two now

[arctic crest]

When TR came, I can't do raids, because it crashed every time I got to the roof

[slender phoenix]

oof

i think that happened to me once

im not entirely sure tbh

i just know fire extingushers were the bane of my tower raid existance

[arctic crest]

The first few runs

[slender phoenix]

lol also the outfit is not worth it

[arctic crest]

Whatever man

I just collect everything

[slender phoenix]

im telling ya lol

i mean yea i do use the vnc paragilder skin

it's pretty dope in my opinion

[arctic crest]

They added paraglider to sola?

[slender phoenix]

yea

[arctic crest]

Okay

[slender phoenix]

it's with that outfit u want a pic of it ?

[arctic crest]

Show me

[slender phoenix]

it glows at night too so

[arctic crest]

lit

[arctic crest]

It's cool

[dusk crystal]

its gay

[slender phoenix]

ok.

[dusk crystal]

not you glider

[slender phoenix]

no i get it

[dusk crystal]

this is gay

[slender phoenix]

wth happened to ur mouse

[dusk crystal]

oxidation on the microchips

[slender phoenix]

damn

[dusk crystal]

on the left of the scroll wheel you can see

white stuff

[slender phoenix]

yea i see it

tbh i never had that happened to me

[dusk crystal]

I wanted to use a computer air duster to spin the mouse wheel, but I mixed it up with a nasal rinse and basically pumped water into my mouse

[slender phoenix]

oof damn

do u have to get a new microchip ?

or get a new mouse entirely ?

[dusk crystal]

new mouse

[slender phoenix]

oof

[dusk crystal]

the one on the photo is razer vasilisk v3

costs 60

[slender phoenix]

hmm i mean that's not bad

im using a 120 dollar mouse, i need to clean it though i feel like there gunk or something in my right mouse button, everytime i try blocking in dl2 or right clicking it basically doesn't even block anymore

[dusk crystal]

why do you even block

[slender phoenix]

i like melee combat

[hollow bay]

i have lie 4-5 gaming mouse from Logitech, Razer... i change them when i get bored also 4-5 mechanic keyboards, i get bored fast. :))))

[slender phoenix]

well mostly parry

[dusk crystal]

havent blocked shit in a long time

renegates get destroyed by one dropkick for me

[slender phoenix]

idk tbh i rarely use dropkick when i want to kill a group

well besides running into it to get like mutation samples

[dusk crystal]

also they mostly use those red attacks that you cant parry

[slender phoenix]

carnage manica

[dusk crystal]

you just lose a lot of time waiting for a rifgt attack

[slender phoenix]

lol i always have it equipped

[upbeat apex]

the intro reminds me of DL honestly. the first view at the city and "welcome to paradise".

[slender phoenix]

tbh the paradise was in the first hour of the intro part of the game lol

idk i wish i could revist the intro if i started new game plus

[dark violet]

tower raid needs more content i'm level 45 for jai

[slender phoenix]

true

ur not wrong

[dusk crystal]

I like peacekeeers bases after you repair those windmills

[arctic crest]

You be raiding lately?

[slender phoenix]

feels very lacking rn

[hollow bay]

i do not even play that BS tower shat in the face :)))

[dusk crystal]

they are so big its like there isnt a deficit of resources

[hollow bay]

I wait now for The Beast and that's it, DL2 is ded for me, worst by far vs DL1'

[slender phoenix]

i mean i think most people are waiting for the beast

i know i am

[dusk crystal]

i wish there were more windmills in the game

some areas just feel empty

[slender phoenix]

eh i feel like there's enough windmills

[hollow bay]

idk what it was in this devs minds when they did DL2, a big shat... because the game is so bad

[dusk crystal]

f off

[slender phoenix]

got rid of elyisum

[hollow bay]

compere to DL1 is a big shat

[slender phoenix]

tbh im still waiting for the e3 2018 outfit with jeans and hoodie with no biomarker.

[dusk crystal]

the regions near renegates regions just feel empty

[hollow bay]

what they show in trailes for DL2 and what we got at launch... OMG what shat show

[slender phoenix]

tbh they should have added more renegade camps in my opinion

[dusk crystal]

also imo they have to update the underwater regions

[slender phoenix]

or something

eh

what would they do with it though

[late widget]

You can give your opinions and ideas in the survey if you haven't done so yet.

[dusk crystal]

some kind of a quest atleats

currently its mostly empty

[slender phoenix]

i guess yea, but it's also an optional area

most people don't drain it

[dusk crystal]

wait you could not drain it

[slender phoenix]

because frick jack matt.

yea u side with the kernal sanders lol

sorry im bad at spelling that

the butcher

it wouldn't drain

[dusk crystal]

where does the water go after draining

[slender phoenix]

no where lol

it evaporates into buildings or the sky lol

[dusk crystal]

i also despise those gay exploading runners

[mellow cape]

We have so many DLCs getting released so why not add more achievements in steam to be unlocked? Wouldn't that makes more players grind? Just my thought

[slender phoenix]

it's why i don't usually drain it

um.

[dusk crystal]

what dlcs lol

[slender phoenix]

there is no dlc 2 anymore

it's the beast

[mellow cape]

Oh no more?

[slender phoenix]

yea it's dying light the beast now

it's a seperate game but who knows

[mellow cape]

Okay so why not achievements based on guns? We did release a reload / weapon dlc right?

[slender phoenix]

maybe they might add a dlc in the future

[late widget]

A horde arena with waves of zombies would fit well there

[slender phoenix]

yea true

[dusk crystal]

ahh dlc

[dusk crystal]

i mean atleast some construction there

[slender phoenix]

but they also wanted to go back to the opera house as well

they haven't even touched bloody ties in like years now

[dusk crystal]

whether you give the region to pk or the other guys

[slender phoenix]

yea

i don't disagree with that

but also timeline don't make sense lol

[dusk crystal]

why

[slender phoenix]

because aiden leaves no matter what

drugs are fun for aiden

tbh the only thing i could see happening

is if aiden shows up in the beast and returns to villedor

because it's got new mutated zombies or some fucked up creatures

so it would make sense to give him the beast like powers than

but who knows

[dusk crystal]

they should make an ending where if you give all the regions to pks or the other ones they just all team up and clear the city of zombies

would be cool

[slender phoenix]

yea but pks are dick heads, renegades are asses, and surviors are meh

mosts of them are just lambs to my slaughter as aiden lmao

because i don't think i cared about anyone from the bazzar, i didn't really care for pks

[dusk crystal]

hope for the reconstruction of the society in the dl world

[slender phoenix]

actually i did like frank and hakon alot

and cillian but that's about it

lawan was like, just there

[dusk crystal]

why couldn’t they make lawan white and pretty

she looks autistic

[slender phoenix]

tbh

it's not that, they rendered her horribly

[dusk crystal]

the chinese one is much better but why does she have to be so ugly

[slender phoenix]

idk why they just didn't stick to just like characters that aren't famous people

i don't know

she always gave me like this feeling of just superiority over aiden and i didn't like it

most people in the game are cocky as shit

[dusk crystal]

woke type shit

[slender phoenix]

yet as soon as aiden does something they always fucking thank him for saving the day lol

yea true

tbh where the 28 year later collab with dying light 2 that would be lit af

[late widget]

Nothing wrong with her.

[dusk crystal]

meh

[slender phoenix]

I have a problem with lawan, she shuts the fucking door in my face when waltz is chasing me

Like leave it open for me for god sakes

And shes a teleporter

Cringe

[dusk crystal]

i dont really like her looks its just

[upbeat apex]

it's crazy how DL2 runs better than DL for me

[dusk crystal]

she doesnt look like someone pleasant looking at

shes just ugly

[slender phoenix]

Shit i know what im doing next playthrough, everyone in my path is getting crushed. Lmao

[dusk crystal]

dl 2 is located in germany and she doesnt look like germanic at all

more turkish arab or gypsy

[late widget]

Everyone has a different opinion about what is good looking

[slender phoenix]

i thought dl2 took place in france or something

[dusk crystal]

something benelux frace or germany

[slender phoenix]

welp

hold on

let me cook real quick

[dusk crystal]

lol

[dusk crystal]

you are the kind of a guy who will see a fat person and say they are pretty

[slender phoenix]

ok i can see aiden being in the next game

[dusk crystal]

dl2 is located in israel

[slender phoenix]

ummm

that doesn't sound right

[rare tulip]

Israel?

[dusk crystal]

.

[slender phoenix]

it's more likely france

or somewhere between france and germany

[late widget]

She is not fat.

[dusk crystal]

didnt say she was

i only said the actor is ugly and the character is too

[dusk crystal]

in the wiki it says a french-german city

[slender phoenix]

well i know, but i was also looking up where the beast takes place as well

[dusk crystal]

forest

bro changed his pfp to lawan

[late widget]

I respect her.

[hollow bay]

she old for this game acrobatics gameplay

[dusk crystal]

for real

[hollow bay]

for absolutely real, the medical facts is talking, you not a agile chick after 45 years old

i am in my 30's and i can't do what i was able to do in my 20's

for f sake... :)))

[late widget]

Isn't Kyle Crane too old now too?

[slender phoenix]

he is a superhuman lol

[sullen trellis]

Kyle's pumped with drugs

Also you'd be amazed by what maintaining a good physique can do even in your 40s-50s

[hollow bay]

yeah he is a mutant by now :))))

[late widget]

And Spike is not a young pilgrim in DL2 either

[sullen trellis]

Spike is about 70 in dl2

He was in his 50s in dl1

[late widget]

and some think lawan is too old

[sullen trellis]

I agree with them

Lawan is supposed to be around the same age as aiden but looks like shes in her 60s

[carmine kraken]

#dl-the-beast-news

[zinc pivot]

Is there a good game you guys suggest to get?

[sullen trellis]

Wrong channel bud

#🎯︱other-games or #⭐︱general

[late widget]

fsr4 off vs on with new Fsr mod

[modern pulsar]

gyáá that looks washed out as hell

that is how I see literally without my glasses

[late widget]

The file will be too large if I don't compress it.

[modern pulsar]

I downloaded it it is 88mb idk how you sent it considering discord has an 8mb upload limit

but I think this picture, should capture the pain

[late widget]

this discor has 100mb limit

[modern pulsar]

oh yeah I totally fucking forgot level 3 servers have higher upload limit for everyone

stupid me

it's good performance, but the visual smear it brings, it ain't worth it

[late widget]

It's barely visible when you're in the game.

[winter zealot]

Dying Light 1

[rare tulip]

Use streamble

To upload it or get outplayed

Nvidia app has cancer recently

[dark violet]

that is left over from e3 2018

[main forge]

Yep this should have been the peacekeepers base it would have been awesome

[dark violet]

so much is still left over you can see it more to the left

[main forge]

I don’t understand they should have released it at the end of 2022 so they could make sure that the game is perfect we could have explore elysum and the peacekeepers castle

[hollow bay]

Give us The Beast and let DL2 die in peace... 😁👍

[main forge]

I can’t wait for the beast I’m going to shoot and slaughter so many of baron soldiers with guns

[dark violet]

dl2 is not that bad

[hollow bay]

i finish the game both sides, expected the game to get better bunt instead they went with updates i really do not like, no cars in the game, still no crazy animations and ragdolls system like in DL1, still no Elysum map like E3 demo... and many more disappointments.

[late widget]

And i don't think he would play so many hours if the game was bad.

[dark violet]

motherfucker Elysum map E3 demo is not possible it all got scrapped

[dark violet]

right

[hollow bay]

The game is puke as it is today. There is a reason why even today there is more players in DL1 than DL2. Check the steam numbers and tell me why.

[fluid mountain]

Good pistol with a silencer

From Tower Raid

[rotund vortex]

The game isn't great but it is hardly puke dude.

[hollow bay]

Compere to the first game, it is.

[rotund vortex]

Not really

[dark violet]

oh ye you want to see what is left of Elysum here

[fluid mountain]

I wonder if there will be a machine gun in Dial Light Beast?

[hollow bay]

Steam numbers says it is.

DL1 far better

[hollow bay]

bunch of losers... you lie people and than you erase the map

[fluid mountain]

I wonder where to find the tower from the beginning of the game?

[rotund vortex]

They don't. Dying Light 2 has actually more than Dying Light 1 right now but they're about the same.

[dark violet]

what mate this is all thats left

how could i erase the map

no way your this obsesed with it

[rotund vortex]

DL1 has 8500 DL2 has 9000

[dark violet]

oh ye whats this then?

[dark violet]

pretty sure the tower is from bloody ties

[fluid mountain]

Let's make pvp from the first part, after dile light beast

[hollow bay]

what a joke... DL2 stay in DL1 shadow 😅

[rotund vortex]

🤡

[dark violet]

when dl2 clearly has more players your so dumb or just being annoying

[rotund vortex]

I would agree if you said Dying Light is better than Dying Light 2 but Dying Light 2 isn't complete trash.

[dark violet]

right seems like he just hatting for no reason

[hollow bay]

That is a older game and look how many is playing DL1 today, and there is days the game surpass the DL2 players. do you even compute ?

[dark violet]

that screenshot was from today dl1 has less players

[rotund vortex]

bro just ignore him he is delusional. he just wants to argue but has no way to justify his argument.

[hollow bay]

today, but how about tomorrow or look at one month graph to see there is days when DL1 has more players than DL2... is up and down with the numbers.

[dark violet]

ye this is what happens most of the time lmao

[hollow bay]

you are a idiot if you look at one day and ignore the 1 month graph when is days DL1 surpass DL2 players.

This is how DL2 beats DL1 ? What a joke...

[rotund vortex]

yeah and? doesn't make the game horrible. i already said i agree that DL is better than DL2 but the game isn't as bad as you're trying to say it is.

[hollow bay]

The reason DL2 still lives is because what DL1 was, and people expect now The Beast.

I do not want to go and point all the youtube bad videos about DL2... because there is lots of them pointing it is a bad game and how devs did not listen to DL players.
They had a perfect game as DL1, they only had to continue the story from there, keep the DL1 physics and just polish the game from there in making a much better DL2 game, with a better story and i bet to you that now the game had much more success than what they did with current DL2 game.

This is why i am angry on DL2 game...

[late widget]

my hours

[sudden hamlet]

christ dying light 2 is a good game, the story is shit but the combat and parkour is amazing

[rotund vortex]

yall just ignore him he doesnt want to have a conversation

you are just giving into his rage bait let him be a loser

[hollow bay]

f off loser

i told my argument and you keep act like a antisocial nut job

[rotund vortex]

yeah but nobody cares

[outer needle]

reading this lokey jus looks like you want something like the following was

different story same game

[hollow bay]

nobody except all the thousands of videos on youtube by people who was disappointed by the game story.

[rotund vortex]

keep yapping buddy

[hollow bay]

i get it, you are the kind of DL2 ass kisser... f off

[rotund vortex]

yeah okay

[hollow bay]

fine by me

[rotund vortex]

sounds good

[hollow bay]

alright

[rotund vortex]

okay then

[hollow bay]

seea good bye

[rotund vortex]

bye bye

[hollow bay]

asta la vista bebe

[hollow bay]

i only wanted the story to continued the first game, like many others who said the same. The game ruin it for me with that story nobody cares about it.

[outer needle]

tbh as you look at it dl2 looks like a filling for the beast

[hollow bay]

is like you read a poor book if you know what i mean... you forget it next day

[outer needle]

so it has its own story to explain that what happened between dl1 and the beast.

[hollow bay]

The Beast is more like the game they do now to wash ther sins to be honest, this is how i see it.

[sudden hamlet]

hopefully its not a copy paste of dying light 1 and crane is smarter

[hollow bay]

I hope to be good after that story in DL2

[sudden hamlet]

yeah both games the story wasnt that great

[hollow bay]

In DL1 the story had a lot of sense, you understand the point of why you were there, how things change step by step in the game. In DL2, boom a guy, in a forst, wake up looking for his sister that nobody know who that even is... so many ???? marks. Confusion...

[maiden peak]

story was never the strength of any of the dl games lmao

[hollow bay]

Mybe i read to much books... 😄

[maiden peak]

i dont understand what you mean by that

[hollow bay]

Because i look to much into the games story telling.

[maiden peak]

i think you would love red dead redemption 2 if you don't already

[hollow bay]

Oh that game made me cry

Best story with lots of deep

[sudden hamlet]

....dafuq you mean boom a guy wakes up in a forest, its very clear that he is a mailman delivering packages while checking citys for his sister that was in the expirimentation program by waltz.....god i know the stories for the games are shit but they arent that bad

[maiden peak]

its the freeplay that makes the dying light games so good in my eyes

thats just me though

[hollow bay]

is how the story was told in the game is bad not what's the story about it

[sudden hamlet]

as much as i love both games, i admit that they both have issues, god though im praying beast isnt a copy of the following, driving through a ton of empty space till you reach a town

[maiden peak]

im praying dl the beast has dl1 combat and dl2 parkour

it would make it like 10x better

i do see how the following can be boring

at least they gave us a buggy

[hollow bay]

they (the devs) said the game map is smaller but more full with stuff to do, so no, that can't be happening

[late widget]

I'm most interested in free roam and endgame in games

[maiden peak]

i just liked levelling up to an absurd level and then just completely destroyed what's left of the story

[sudden hamlet]

i just dont want the main focus to be shoot guns all the time, give me more infected abilities, more parkour, more melee weapons and stuff

[maiden peak]

im hoping for better human enemies

kind of like dl1

[sudden hamlet]

give us a.i like fear used to have, they provide cover fire, use orders, flank and all

[dark violet]

No dl1 combat was so bad

So annoying

More chance of it being dl2. Combat as it’s built of that engine

[maiden peak]

and most importantly gun wielding npc's

made it a whole lot harder

[sudden hamlet]

if we get proper infected and stealth/stalking mechanics sure, otherwise itll be the same as dl1 where they were barely a threat once you had your own gun, and most of the time werent a threat without a gun

[maiden peak]

imo dl1 had better combat dl2 had better parkour

[maiden peak]

true

[sudden hamlet]

i like the combat mechanics of dying light 2, not just wildy hack and slashing nonstop, and limb cutting is super fun

[maiden peak]

i liked combat in dl2 as well but it just wasn't as hard or fun as dl1

having to take different approaches to deal with gunmen or melee enemies

[rocky mauve]

anyone want to play

[maiden peak]

#💻︱lfg-dl2-pc #🎮︱lfg-dl2-xbox #🎮︱lfg-dl2-playstation

[rocky mauve]

ty

[sudden hamlet]

me with a bow or grappling hook taking the same approach every time.....

[lapis sparrow]

cant wait for enemies to have guns

if they ever will

[modern pulsar]

didn't the netflix level lore, make it so that only jai and "you" has access to guns

or idk if I missed something, cause you find the container which has the guns

[bleak vapor]

Hello someone could drop me on dl2 ps5 version

[vital musk]

I’m replaying Dying Light 2 to get the achievement for Reaching City Alignment 7 for any faction, Which one should I do?

Is one better than the other or does it not matter?

[modern pulsar]

whichever you would like

it does not matter at all, if you are going to do a ng+ after it

[main forge]

Same and they will have guns it was in the trailer and techland confirmed that

[opal kindle]

is there anyone who joined "a heros journey" contesr??

[modern sparrow]

Are inhibitors from GRE hospitals and Anomalies that were previously collected will reset in NG+?

[sudden hamlet]

no they add more inhibitors to find in ng+

[modern sparrow]

Ah so I can just collect all of them normal save before new game plus

Does it include military airdrops?

[sudden hamlet]

gonna be real its been a long time since ive had to collect them so id say get all of them before ng+ then gather the rest

[fresh cipher]

Hey, I need an achievement, "that's teamwork", but I don't have any friends to do it. can someone help me out? It's the last one for me.

[graceful shale]

i just lost a run cuz i got stuck in the extra loot room 1 floor before the roof

[jolly hawk]

Anyone who wanna lvl up we grinding so dm if anyone needs help

[cyan cobalt]

Hi guys, someone is trying to help me by giving me some weapons but for some reason it says "this weapons is to another player" do you know why ?

[blissful ridge]

Its not tradable

It belongs to the other player

[cyan cobalt]

Oh okay so some weapons can't be given

[blissful ridge]

Nope

Not even bought items from bundles or some event items can't be traded

[winter zealot]

Survivors perks are better.

[winter zealot]

They need to add a "renegade leader" to all renegade spawns, give them bullet resistant armor and a random gun, and make them hit hard, balance things somehow.

[lapis sparrow]

at the same time rework one thing and let us pick up Colonel's pistol

after he ||shoots himself||

[sullen trellis]

It's a regular pistol nothing special to it

[lapis sparrow]

nuh uh

its 9mm american pistol from dl1

[sullen trellis]

Uh huh

[sullen trellis]

It isnt

[lapis sparrow]

it is

[sullen trellis]

The American 9mm is a dlc weapon

In dl2

[lapis sparrow]

it is american 9mm pistol

the bundle with it got added at reloaded update

and he has it since long already

and harran pistol is german 9mm pistol

service pistol is a new model

techland please colonel's pistol unique gun🙏

[dense peak]

how much does dying light 2 drop kick damage?

[blissful ridge]

Depends on your skill lvl from legend lvl ig

I use a gear that gives me 0.3 boost dropkick dmg or something

[digital egret]

Wait there's a dropkick dmg separate from parkour dmg? Didn't know that

[winter zealot]

Turn on health bars and test it.

[gritty panther]

What weapons should I buy from Jai?

[rough cave]

all
cuz why not

[waxen palm]

there's that bundle, villedor touchdown that gives you +x% dropkick dmg on its gear pieces

[digital egret]

Oh ok I don't think I have that one yet

[sullen trellis]

The football outfit?

[bleak wind]

yes

[vital musk]

Thanks I will do that

[rough cave]

I still wonder why they sell armor sets with piss poor stats, that either specialize in something but poorly.. or just have garbo stats, with one super goofy bonus slapped on top.... For the theme

[waxen palm]

it's prolly bc of people backlash if there's a bundle thats just p2w

[mellow vigil]

My current play is gonna be PK

Because I did the survivors in my OG game

and then after this NG+ I will maybe try a nightmare playthrough

[rough cave]

Or do PK + nightmare

[rough cave]

Those will come sooner or later

[wintry anchor]

Anyone wanna play and just chill and talk?

[mellow vigil]

Maybe after my first nightmare. I'm not ashamed to admit I am a seriously pleb gamer who likes to just enjoy bumpin' around

[rough cave]

I mean
You don't have to go full terminator and look for every fight that presents itself
Just to get your ass kicked

[mellow vigil]

I'm not overly good, and I don't really mind being bad at it. So just playing and taking the easy path doesn't bug me

I'm decent at other games I put the effort into, but DL2 has been my unwinding, just vibe game. Which I know is weird, since it's an adrenaline fueled fast twitch survival game, but that's ok. Its what makes sense for me haha

[sullen trellis]

You don't know how boring dying light 2s story is unless you speedran it

[mellow vigil]

I enjoyed it! It's not some real character development masterpiece (kinda like DL1, I loved that) but it is just fine

[vivid fractal]

Omg the the guy stopped ranting

[sullen trellis]

It's boring if you've beaten it hundreds of times

[vivid fractal]

Bro I tried to watch every cutscene I failed instantly from how long it is

[sullen trellis]

Fr

[rough cave]

Misadventures of the biggest moron in Harran
Character development masterpiece

[mellow vigil]

lol I really enjoyed DL1

[vivid fractal]

Like the dialogue in ut us slightly better then 1 but like holy crap no need to add one every 10 seconds

[rough cave]

I mean
If the accusations haven't started flying around, and techland had the stones to NOT fire their writer
And then not deal with rewriting the story 3 times
Maybe we would have had a better story driven game

@bleak wind
Do you know if there's a better way to get Tank armor?

Other than looting every orange renegade chest
Or farming tower raid, just to buy piece of armor from the vendor and hope for the best

(I legit did the latter, and i have 67% electricity resistance, and like 20% resistance vs infected and humans... While Brawler set gives me 45% resistance for both types of enemies .... Both give ~70% dmg bonus to their weapon types)

[bleak wind]

Only other option is big present boxes from last christmass event.

[digital egret]

Those numbers are beefy

[bleak wind]

it's the same for the other parts of the set,so 6x30%=180% on a full set 😄

[digital egret]

That would make it the highest we've seen from a set isn't it?

[bleak wind]

i suppose so,scull isn't bad either 90% more malee damage on a full set

[digital egret]

Yeah I was gonna say but yeah I didn't know that football set has those numbers. I wonder if it makes a difference on nightmare or only lower difficulties

[bleak wind]

if you want to do dropkick and then run away to a uv zone 😄

[digital egret]

How about with grapple since the recovery is faster?

More effective?

[bleak wind]

You are playing on nightmare?

[digital egret]

No I play on all I was just wondering if the gear is effective on NM vs other difficulties

[bleak wind]

Don't know i'm not using that gear

[digital egret]

Oh ok

[winter zealot]

But... If your doing ng+, do pk first run for crossbow and bolts recipes, ng+ do survivors.

[bleak wind]

first pilgrim gear should give you almost infinite stamina so using grappling with it should make a difference

[waxen palm]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-shocked-face-surprised-wow-omg-gif-16507327329045428794

[digital egret]

Yeah that's one of preload sets

[deep pagoda]

I just started dying light 2 can someone help me out and drop me some gear?

[still grove]

Is muting just fucking broken why can I not mute people anymore in this game

[hushed basin]

when spring update???

[hushed basin]

bruv play the game and get it

[waxen palm]

neverrrrrr

[rare tulip]

ofc

if there is tencent there is gonna be a bundle too

they single handledly ruined mobile games

[blissful ridge]

Dl2 places are interesting imo

[rare tulip]

wats the max lvl of jai

in tower raid

im 30 rn and to max it out fully one tree i need 10 more lvl ups

so i assume its 40?

[fallow pumice]

No

[rare tulip]

36?

[dark violet]

35 is max

[rare tulip]

Dats

[dark violet]

after that you get 1500 raid tokens

[rare tulip]

So u cant max it out

Fully?

[dark violet]

not all the perks no

[rare tulip]

Yikers

[dark violet]

ye

you got to build a perk build that you like

[toxic ferry]

Unfortunately

So silly

[dark violet]

right

[toxic ferry]

Tower raid just has issues, not really gonna bother much with it anymore

[dark violet]

still hoping the changes they are doing are good

i'm happy they see that the mode is not complete

[toxic ferry]

I kinda wanna see human enemies in it honestly, zombies get boring after a while

It’s just

Attack and attack

[dark violet]

ye i get you

[toxic ferry]

I also love just comboing a human enemy, it’s funny asf

One reason why knuckle dusters are the most fun for me

[dark violet]

I wish they did not patch speedrunning for this game

[still igloo]

Whos up for a carnage hall challenge

[winter zealot]

What's the deal with the blue/white leaves that burst out when doing certain actions?

[still igloo]

Actions like what

[winter zealot]

You'll know it when you see it

It's like stupid confetti...

[dark violet]

lmao why did they have to make dlc 2 into dltb

[dark violet]

like am I the only one who things the beast is going to be dl2 with the assests but a new story and place to explore

[stable belfry]

Alguien que hable español para jugar asalto a la torre?

[dark violet]

speak english

and no I'm not playing tower raid rn

[vital musk]

What do the survivors give?

[dark violet]

wait the orginal e3 2019 graphics are just sat in a data packs? wtf they should really add it to the gritty option

[blissful ridge]

#💻︱lfg-dl2-pc aqui puedes jugar el juego de dl2 con pc jugadores pero a veces hay jugadores de Español

[dark violet]

lmao did you google translate it?

[blissful ridge]

No

[still grove]

How much harder is elite tower raid compared to regular raid on normal difficulty?

[toxic ferry]

Parkour stuff like zip lines, airbags to jump off of, air vents, and a revive which keeps legend points once you get it

[dark violet]

wow

[blissful ridge]

Mhm

[sudden hamlet]

pure suffering, elite nightmare tower raid makes me wanna delete the game solo, and build a catapult to launch my tv as a duo, full squad its not too bad as long as 1.no debuff on top floor and 2.they dont share 1 braincell

[dark violet]

thats how i feel

[sudden hamlet]

i remember when we first did the nightmare runs, discussing how painful it was, now there is more floor variety so its even more difficult.....that negative double damage to me debuff on the top floor

[dark violet]

have not tryed a nightmare run since the update

[sudden hamlet]

its even more difficult now, ive yet to beat it solo

[urban crater]

it's impossble to beat solo or co-op

Sola's bullet sales is so inflated like 11k hubs for 250 bullets

then it goes into you stash and you have to retrieve them at the bottom of the bag with the thing popping to the top everytime, you have to scroll down to the bottom again to get the other bullets. The ammunition slots in the backpack is so limited even though there's so many of variety of ranged weapons.

help

[dark violet]

ye hope they change that

[still grove]

I forgot to say like how bad is it if you just play on hard difficulty elite raid?

[urban crater]

i've not enjoyed guns in this game until TR especially when the infinite ammo modifier kicks in. It's the best. TL needs to do more with guns in TR and the game itself

[sudden hamlet]

oh....i never played hard brandong sorry only nightmare

[still grove]

Oh okay I never play nightmare cuz I don't like how it nerfs the player I don't mind stronger enemies but imo I should always have access to all the tools the game has

[sudden hamlet]

it makes enemies tougher, more enemies, more floors, more bosses, you fight 3 revenants and 1 named charger boss through out the tower raid , plus whatever other un named bosses and volotile hives etc etc

[still grove]

I heard nightmare elite raid you get negative modifiers like every floor

[urban crater]

TL needs to bring the Last Wish back and a revolver in TR

[sudden hamlet]

thats any game difficulty though, just a higher chance for negatives my 1st run had 50% damage increased for me but everything else deals double damage.....even regular infected almnost 1 shot me on the final boss floor

[still grove]

Oh I see I always use insatiable so I get positive modifiers like every floor and the bad ones I get are like "stay in the floor too long you take damage or enemies deal 15% more damage" which doesn't make much difference

[sudden hamlet]

lmfao....you can get double negative modifiers too, also nightmare run without extra lives atleast solo is impossible and as a group almost impossible

[still grove]

On regular raid and normal difficulty you don't need extra lives with insatiable because you get damage boosts like every floor and for the bosses you can use boosters to kill them in 15 seconds

I'm in a weird spot where normal raid is easy if I don't get too comfortable but I'm not leveled up enough for elite

There's like 3-4 more things I need to unlock with jai first

[sudden hamlet]

i only have regen boosters and molotovs unlocked for loot pool, and im not even max level with jai

[urban crater]

do you know why when someone dies, they can't be revived? What's that about

and straight up lose a life

[sudden hamlet]

they auto revive?

[dark violet]

ye max level for jai is 35

[still grove]

Good cuz then you get more grenades I regret buying alot of stuff cuz now I get a bunch of remote mines and they suck outside of specific situations

[sudden hamlet]

oh yeah molotovs are the best thing ever they pretty much lead to having time to breath or loot

[urban crater]

someone dies and instead of being able to revive them, you lose a life

[still grove]

Hmmm interesting I avoid using them cuz you can't see shit

[sudden hamlet]

maybe a bug then

[sudden hamlet]

throwing them at your feet or a hallway it stops all infected in their tracks, lets you heal, doesnt damage you, etc etc and stops crowding when fighting the boss on the roof....its the ultimate tool when you have regen booster on

[urban crater]

happens all the time. Get to the rooftop with several lives, then lose half of them because of this. It's like TL doesn't want us to beat this

[still grove]

Ohhhh I use the decoys for that

If I'm playing with a shitty team I'll craft like a 100 of them and throw around right before a boss fight to clear space

[urban crater]

but it happens on other floors too. It's random

[still grove]

Dying light ever had a revolver pistol? That would be cool especially if it was very high damage

It could only have 6 shots but it does like 1200 damage or something

[sudden hamlet]

dl1 had multiple revolvers, rifles, shotguns and double barrel shotguns,a werewolf silver bullet gun that 1 tapped volotiles lmfao

[urban crater]

the Last Wish was a one shot and very loud. The best revolver in DL

[dark violet]

thats what I like more about dl2 the guns feel balaenced

[still grove]

Hmmm weird we don't have revolvers or double barrel anymore I remember that from dl 1

[sudden hamlet]

i wanted more variety.... like give me museum guns or revolvers or pipe guns, instead we get the same old military gear, couldve handled it so much better, or finding lever action rifles, and such, nothing full auto making you do tactical stuff

[dark violet]

I mean the roadmap did say new guns coming so could be somthing like that

[urban crater]

more guns in TR for viral raids

[sudden hamlet]

im still on edge about the new guns and new weapons being the flamethrower and that counting as both

[dark violet]

I love that we are getting dltb weapons in dl2 tbh

[urban crater]

flamethrower would be awesome and a rocket launcher

[sudden hamlet]

like above im hoping its not a 2 for 1 special and we being decieved about new unique weapons and guns

[urban crater]

Aiden raided a military base and now it's in TR. Totally believeable

[dark violet]

I think the best way to think about it is dtlb items getting ported over to dl2 so maybe we get the grenade laucher and more stuff

[vital musk]

Thanks

[still grove]

I hope they let you bring your inventory to tower raid eventually I feel like it would be a decent reward for maxing out jai so there's something else to do. I can understand not allowing equipment like UV bars and boosters but they should at least allow you to bring your own weapons and cosmetic skins.

[urban crater]

they should let players wear their own skins in TR. What's the point of getting them for

[still grove]

I saw a lot of people complaining about it when it new tower raid dropped.

[urban crater]

bringing your own inventory is a bad idea

you'll get bored real quick

[still grove]

I really wish I could use the MP5 SMG in tower raid I bought it recently and sucks I can't use it in tower raid

[still grove]

I'm already bored lol I'm just grinding for the silenced pistol and I'm dropping tower raid forever unless they release a new map for it.

[urban crater]

that's one I don't have. I know it's new. It's in the store right?

[still grove]

Plus the weapons they give you do alot of damage already and have similar stats to the best stuff in the game it wouldn't make that much difference

[urban crater]

so you're suggesting it even though you're not going to play it? no bueno

is there a max to Jai?

[still grove]

Not just me I saw a lot of people complaining about it when new tower raid mode dropped. When I was on YouTube checking out videos on the update every video had alot of people disappointed you couldn't use your inventory. Plus if you feel it's too easy you can always use the default weapons or weaker stuff.

[dark violet]

ye and those same people are quit the mode and call it too easy and yet they are spamming uv bars

[urban crater]

I know I've seen others comment on the inventory

[dark violet]

yes 35 is when you stop getting perk points

[still grove]

This argument never made sense to me "I can't resist the urge to use the best stuff in the game so you must suffer with shittyer limited weapons" not saying you guys are like that but when I bring this up people act like that.

[dark violet]

after that it's 1500 hub tokens for every level

[urban crater]

gotcha

[still grove]

I am optimistic they will allow you eventually

[urban crater]

i don't see the point tho

[dark violet]

trust me they won't

[still grove]

I feel like it makes sense if you max out jai and unlock everything there's not that much point in playing. Plus like I said you can still use the default classes no one is stopping anyone from playing how they want. That's why I liked original tower raid if you want to be harder then don't use OP stuff 🤷

[urban crater]

better TL work on rewards, switching up the floors, allow players to use their own skins, that kinda stuff

and more guns and the revolver

[sudden hamlet]

honestly i wish they added more characters, more unique floors, parkour stuff, more buffs and debuffs

[urban crater]

or more gun play

[dark violet]

ye they doing all that the final reward for beating the raid will come

[urban crater]

beating the raid on elite nightmare should be a dinner at the four seasons or something

[still grove]

I miss using my roses axe on tower raid I miss original raid 😭it was also cool to experiment with different nocturnal weapons

And spitfire shotgun it barely appears on the chest I miss being able to whip it out and clear a hallway shit was so satisfying

[urban crater]

maybe a day at the spa or a beach get away

after the grind they're putting us through

[dark violet]

let me load up my dl2 real quick show you what true tower raid grind is not even close actually

[still grove]

What level are you with jai?

[urban crater]

you goin live on twitch or somethin?

[dark violet]

I wonder how fuel is going to work for the car in the beast

[dark violet]

no lmao going to just screenshot my level and stuff

done the raid 40 times

and this is the perk build i used

[urban crater]

you on PC?

[dark violet]

ye

i grind this game

[urban crater]

i'm lvl 48

didn't know that was high

[dark violet]

nice would prob be higher if I did not take a break doing 40 runs after another really made me burnt out on tr

[sudden hamlet]

this is pretty much my same build lol

[urban crater]

I play hazmat mainly and have 10312 blunt kills

[dark violet]

tox bane main here

[urban crater]

out of 50k so got alot more to go lol

[sudden hamlet]

hammer time guys lol. that grappling hook makes life easy

[dark violet]

only other good perk i would get if i could is this

would make nightmare elite so much more possible i think

[urban crater]

I have most of zenith

have little of everything on all four

[dark violet]

ye but work muscles would stack so much across all floors in elite

[urban crater]

i have base on work muscle

used to have base and upgrade but needed the damage reduction

and help with stamina

[dark violet]

ye only other thing i could get rid of is savenger

[urban crater]

when TR first came out a few weeks, tank buster didn't seem to make a difference

[dark violet]

i thought that as well now after the update i'm deeling so much more damage i dont know if that has somthing to do with the floor buff damage you do

[urban crater]

wonder if it helps elite on NM mode

[dark violet]

I would hope so havn't done a elite nightmare run in weeks

does not seem to do anything still 2 shot a biter

[urban crater]

zenith and slayer would be the best for elite NM, but you need damage reduction or your toast

[dark violet]

ye

[urban crater]

i'll have to try that with damage reduction and sacrifice assassin

[dark violet]

lmao they changed what empower ment does in tower raid

oh fuck my life first floor as well i'm done

[urban crater]

i don't even use that anymore. Takes way too much stamina

once I saw they take or do 70% damage...i was like wtf! lol think it was for the rooftop

or ranged weapons are some percentage less and it was elite hard mode. I was like come on

[dark violet]

this is what it would look like just sacrifice extra health i did

[urban crater]

i maxed chronic invincibility

not sure it works cause sometimes some slow ass zombie smacks me and i'm down

[dark violet]

I think this perk loadout could work

[urban crater]

my survivor is the same as yours

i have base charge attacks and none on advantage pusher

[dark violet]

ye this is just testing

[urban crater]

gotcha

[dark violet]

you think this could make it easier for elite nightmare

ok mabye it could but just so annoying to work with

[urban crater]

how about upgrade on backpack mitosis for zenith

elite NM I noticed is scarce with the reources so that's maxed for me

craft parts that is

[dark violet]

ye it's so ruff without that i will say

[urban crater]

grenades, mollies are handy

tox'es toxic spear thing is a bit useless

one time, me and 3 others killed the both aberrations with bombs

[dark violet]

ye thats good for playing with others

[urban crater]

even when solo bombs deliver pretty good damage especially when those things keep flying away

and hazmat's spear bomb can stick

it helps

have you played as tank

or crossbow dude

their both pretty good with the boss fights

crossbow dude can stand behind those partially opened doors and just snipe em

[dark violet]

ye

[urban crater]

think we need more perk points. Maybe like 5 more

i remember in dead island you can max out every skill tree so what's this

and in DL

[dark violet]

Like you can’t even max out one the

Tree

[urban crater]

maybe they didn't want to make it too easy, but I just need more perks for NM

[dark violet]

Ye nm rn is so hard

[urban crater]

i just slighted redid some perks and have 1 left lol

what a waste! lol

[dark violet]

Same lmao

[winter zealot]

Parkour stuff around the map, zip lines, trampolines, etc... Zoom out your map and look at the perks.