💬︱dying-light-2

[burnt tusk]

So

[signal shale]

cause most people dont believe E3 existed cause of how perfect it looked

[silver osprey]

idk

[signal shale]

even tho modders are bringing it back completely but its whatever

[burnt tusk]

Sometimes people who want E3 can be annoying. Other times people just don't wanna face the truth

[distant horizon]

I think a lot of people just want DL1 with nicer graphics and more story to play through. I get why many didn't like the focus on melee and the parkour being made much more "realistic", but given it's an entirely new game and not DLC I still think the devs made the right choice.

[burnt tusk]

This is gonna die down in like what, 3 weeks

[signal shale]

how is this even possible

[signal shale]

few days

[burnt tusk]

Ok I guess we're not sugarcoating this

[silver osprey]

development probably got restarted many times, i don't blame them tbh

[signal shale]

or well no it will stay like that cause of tower raid update through 3 weeks, then it will die

[burnt tusk]

It's gonna have like a cruve

Spike in 3 days per week

[distant horizon]

The main thing I wasn't so keen on in DL2 was how long it takes to really get your character up to the point where you could experiment with things properly e.g. the grappling hook being so far into the game compared to the first one

[burnt tusk]

Than died down in other

[signal shale]

yea

[burnt tusk]

Also factor in this is like new update dl2 Vs dl1 in their normal time

This is like dl2's peak playercount

[silver osprey]

that's like near endgame if you go through missions quickly

[distant horizon]

Yeah, I don't get the E3 obsession some have either. Those are always early looks at a game, not "this is exactly what the game will look like". I think that's maybe not made clear enough at similar "reveal" events, how when they say it is a work in progress that also means it might look nothing like that

[burnt tusk]

It's because of the multiple promises techland broke and how glorious E3 sounded

If this were a common commercial product the company would've been sued by now

[distant horizon]

The parkour in DL1 is totally different to DL2 but I find the sequels much more fun. The problem I think is that it takes so long to unlock all those moves that a lot of players just give up

[burnt tusk]

For false advertisement

[signal shale]

E3 was what techland promised, and Retail DL2 is what they gave us

[silver osprey]

yeah, i prefer dl2's parkour and combat, by A LOT

[burnt tusk]

Modern dark ages is what techland promised and New black era is what they gave us

[distant horizon]

The thing is I don't think Techland actually intended to break those promises, which is how a lot of people seem to see it. They wanted the game to be what they imagined it to be more than anyone

[signal shale]

modern dark ages is long gone.

even 2021 looked fine

[burnt tusk]

It doesn't matter wether theyve intended it or not

[silver osprey]

sadly shit happened

[burnt tusk]

They sold the game at FUL PRICE knowing they fucked up

[silver osprey]

but regardless of that, i like what we got

[burnt tusk]

They added numerous bundles , so much so that the current bundle amount exceeds that of dl1

They are not to be sympathise with. The Devs are

[silver osprey]

looking forward to see the finished product with all the updates done

[signal shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204306439489720350/1248012264968159343/mwahe3.gif

[verbal copper]

The idea that they made a bad game on purpose is so stupid it's beyond reason

[distant horizon]

Nobody sets out to make a bad game, or a game that has planned features stripped because of time or other factors. DL2 is just one of those games that has so much going on that one thing going wrong can have a disastrous effect on everything else, which is why I think major plans for it had to be stripped and rebuilt probably several times during development

[verbal copper]

ya, some of it is bad

[silver osprey]

this

[signal shale]

its not bad just worse

[burnt tusk]

Some may say

This is the modern dark ages for dl2

[silver osprey]

and THIS ^^^^

[verbal copper]

It's an angry child's take

[distant horizon]

It's not a bad game is the crazy thing, it's a great one. I think DL1 being so so good has been a drawback more than anything

[burnt tusk]

Ok that joke sucked

[burnt tusk]

Tbf, the days before

[distant horizon]

How you could make DL1 but improve upon it so much that it would be seen as "worthy" of being a sequel I have no idea. But DL2 is as close as I think is humanly possible to get

[burnt tusk]

Not really....

[verbal copper]

ya but that was a scam

[young crescent]

Can someone tellme what I lose on new game + do I lose waepons from my stash? My resources etc

[burnt tusk]

Dl2 is like, if you don't try

E3 dl2 is if you did

[signal shale]

u dont lose anything

[burnt tusk]

Even if we ignore the whole 500 hours promise

[young crescent]

What about ur inventory u lose that?

[signal shale]

nah they try just not putting effort

[distant horizon]

The gungs being missing I sort of thought was a consequence of the physics being so advanced and the relative low-power of the consoles. Having lots of explosions all the time, visible to a decent distance of detail could have absolutely tanked the framerate on console making it unplayable

[burnt tusk]

If we just got modern dark ages, the same amount of attention to detail, half decent lore, good parkour and combat physics

Then it would be a worthy successor

Dl1 really isn't as untouchable level as people make it out to be in terms of quality

[verbal copper]

You keep saying promise like they were your girlfriend and broke your heart

What the hell is a promise?

lol

[signal shale]

choices and consenquences that shape the city around u

[vale imp]

How do I do the tower raids

[distant horizon]

The entire map changing based on player actions is such a massive promise to make, and to me one that just isn't worth the amount of time it would actually take

[verbal copper]

I hearby promise to deliver the best game ever made- Tymon

[burnt tusk]

The thing they say that will happen in the game in the trailer that they put out?

[distant horizon]

Like how many games promise the player's actions will change the story, I just want the story to be good

[verbal copper]

Obviously they couldn't deliver

[burnt tusk]

Yes

Your point being.....?

[verbal copper]

a promise is made between people who know each other

[distant horizon]

If DL1 had been shown that early I wonder how different it would have looked, or if people would have felt betrayed because they didn't have a previous game to compare it to

[unreal tartan]

@burnt tusk I've become a bows only type of guy now lol

[verbal copper]

ok

I'm sorry you got your heart broken

[distant horizon]

I don't think Techland can be accused of not doing their absolute best to fix what people didn't like, even if imo what people were asking for was totally counter to what the game was meant to be e.g. the parkour system

[burnt tusk]

I'm more mad abt the modern dark ages but ok.....

[signal shale]

there wouldnt be a single issue with DL2, if it wasnt worse than the 1st game in almost every single way.

[burnt tusk]

Why are y'all being so defensive over the word "promise" right now is beyond me

[distant horizon]

See I don't think it is, some things I prefer in DL1 like the weapons. But others like how the grappling hook makes the entire parkour system redundent I much prefere DL2

[verbal copper]

It all comes down to the people who think they did it on purpose, it's lame and makes no sense

none

[signal shale]

they did not make it worse on purpose, obviously

[burnt tusk]

Wether they did it on purpose or not. It's irrelevant by now

[silver osprey]

ofc

[signal shale]

it's all bad dumb decisions

[burnt tusk]

But how they make it up, is not something that seems to be forgivable

[verbal copper]

as is everything in this conversation, the game is made and released

[distant horizon]

That's crazy to think they knew these things wouldn't be in the game but just said they would be at E3 anyway. That's just not how game development works if a company wants to make more than a single game

They showed with DL1 just how good a game they could make, but improving on every aspect of that when people liked different things is expecting the impossible

But describing features that were so fundamental to the entire game like the story and map changing etc I'm sure they'd not have talked about if they could go back and change the reveal

[verbal copper]

Why would you continue to be concerned about something that won't change? Why not move on? I would

honestly

[burnt tusk]

Move on what

Like move on what?

[distant horizon]

I mean it's an obvious example, but Star Citizen is the most obvious one. I have no idea anymore what Chris Roberts has promised and what he hasn't. I just assume if someone asked for it he said it will be there because it's never going to be finished so technically he's not being dishonest.

[burnt tusk]

They have more bundles currently in the than dl1 has

They added dlp.

[verbal copper]

From hoping the promises you're waiting for to be fulfilled

[signal shale]

Have to move on that techland will never bring back E3 stuff, but dont have to move on that it wont happen with modders, thats it

[distant horizon]

It's a shame that such an amazing game like DL2 is overshadowed by the previous one

[burnt tusk]

But sure let's move on from that and never criticise it because "oh Welp, it happened"

[verbal copper]

That's clear, hope it turns out great

[burnt tusk]

I wouldn't call the game well...."amazing"

More like "it has potential but got fucked over"

[signal shale]

It's already going really good ye

i just HATE how it has been 2 years and DL2 is still just... getting stuff from DL1 cause it doesnt exist in the 2nd game

[verbal copper]

But it's over Why keep going? What's the point? Just asking

[burnt tusk]

To make sure they stop doing it? What?

[distant horizon]

I've put more time into it than Dl1 that's for sure, and every time I load it up I end up getting sucked in and playing for hours. I'd consider that a mark of an amazing game but then someone else might find it totally boring. I think Techland just underestimated how strongly people would feel about changing anything that was in DL1.

[verbal copper]

Who, the people in the discord?

[burnt tusk]

You guys said it yourself

Techland listens , so if you don't speak how do they listen

[burnt tusk]

Techland???? Dude what is this question ???

[verbal copper]

So bashing the game is punishing Techland for breaking their promises to you

[verbal copper]

Techland isn't reading your beefs

you won't fix anything here

[distant horizon]

DL1 is an incredible game, even playing it now it's amazing how much stuff it does that other games don't come close to. It just depends on what you expect of a sequel I guess, but DL2 existing doesn't change DL1 also still being there. I would rather they tried something different than just did the same as the first game but stuck raytracing on top or something

[verbal copper]

It makes no sense

[burnt tusk]

What does promise have to Do with this now?? They fucked up, sure. It happened. Whatever.

How they fix it is not acceptable. When you fuck up, you don't "fix" the game by adding more monetisation to the game. You focus on fixing the game first

[verbal copper]

And you think ranting on discord will make them re do the game?

[distant horizon]

"promises" is the wrong word for sure, I think a lot of people see early alpha trailers and assume the game is pretty much finished and the devs are just sitting on it until release date

[fast wyvern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/934062419733536768/1182415030352879697/cat_1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.gif?ex=65849ccf&is=657227cf&hm=0b29afdb22116c7aec986d58e2118da2de662ba382164f56ac63fe2366dd11eb&

[burnt tusk]

Is discussing my dissatisfaction regarding the game somehow illegal now????

[verbal copper]

They are not even here

[burnt tusk]

Is this not a platform for discussion?

[verbal copper]

Not if it elevates to constant trolling

you say nothing positive

you whine like a hurt toddler

you aren't helping

[distant horizon]

Improving a game of this size while also upholding the responsibilities you have to your publisher to actually make it profitable is stupidly difficult. Techland being so pro-active in trying to make the players happy is not something you see a lot since game development has become so insanely expensive

[burnt tusk]

What constant trolling💀

[verbal copper]

make sure to screenshot all this for Aussie's server where you can give your one sided rebuttle

lol

[burnt tusk]

I only occasionally pop up here one or two time

[verbal copper]

ok Bro

lol

[burnt tusk]

Ah

This all makes sense now

[verbal copper]

it alway makes sense

[burnt tusk]

So you have beef with me talking in Aussie chat and now your bringing it here

[verbal copper]

I feel sorry for you

[signal shale]

[burnt tusk]

For what lol

[verbal copper]

if I ever got mad at a video game I would seek help

[distant horizon]

DL2 I find way more frightening than DL1. I often have to play with the sound down because it just gets too much. With DL1 I feel much less under threat because I'm always absolutely armed to the teeth

[signal shale]

how are u still going omg haha

[verbal copper]

lol

[burnt tusk]

Brother, just because I'm mad at a game doesn't mean I'm having a high grudge against it

[verbal copper]

ok

sure sounds like it

[distant horizon]

I dunno haha There's just something about DL2 (which DL1 also has, but somehow not as strongly" that I find really compelling in terms of the core gameplay loop

[verbal copper]

like I said, never a positive word about it

it's sad

[burnt tusk]

I've given it credit enough times lmao

[verbal copper]

oh ok

mb

Maybe it got buried in the rage

[burnt tusk]

K like idk if you have beef with me or you're just trolling now

[signal shale]

DL1's night time is one of best night experiences in gaming history

[distant horizon]

I was also really impressed with how open the game is to modding. I know most people aren't interested in poking around the game code but with DL2 I wasn't expecting to find pretty much the entire game just open to player modification

[fast wyvern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1160334234389590056/1164667338566664252/catba.gif?ex=65440bfb&is=653196fb&hm=614de2d8007326ae5f1d8f00873d3fb7ee05c704d934beb00d239c632b938eec&

[verbal copper]

I really have no beef with you, honestly

[burnt tusk]

Look, the only updates I'm mad about is firearms. The others I could really care less. I do think some of it is bad

[verbal copper]

I'm pointing out the observations I've made

[silver osprey]

gameplay is for sure better imo

[little compass]

Tower raid is really underwhelming in its current state and the end "boss fight" is atrocious, Also it keeps crashing.

[verbal copper]

Some of it is bad, we are in agreement

[lyric saffron]

I think I broke Aiden's back.... (I accidentally hit hide character in photo mode and he broke his back)

[distant horizon]

I avoid going out at night in DL2, I've only recently started doing it now that I feel my character is strong enough and I know how the volatiles work. In DL1 I just went out whenever once I had a few machine guns, even though it initially is damn scary. DL2 for me has kept that element of danger for a lot longer and not just cos I don't have 20 machine guns strapped to my back 🙂

[burnt tusk]

I'm...passionate enough in certain arguments. And yes I admit I am petty. But I really only pop up once in a while to see shitty arguments. So no it's really not all bad

[little compass]

@verbal copper can you please fix your game its really annoying when the game crashes and im trying to grind levels. Please do your job and if you want more details dm me smh

[signal shale]

lmao

[verbal copper]

Good to hear, hope they improve the game to all our satisfaction

Um...

[silver osprey]

eh

[verbal copper]

I'm a discord mod not a dev

[silver osprey]

i don't think he works for techland

[distant horizon]

With all the raytracing turned up full, in the underground with just your torch and a few random lights scattered about, there's not many games can come close to how good DL2 actually looks either. The problem is that outside, where you spend most of your time, those kinds of features aren't nearly as obvious

[little compass]

@verbal copper I do not appreciate you ignoring me, if you keep this up I will file a report to your superiors
😠

[burnt tusk]

Do it

[exotic lark]

Bait, or mental disability, call it

[little compass]

That is such a poor excuse fix your game PS: do your job properly, thank you.

[silver osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003397083409166512/1040433531064700958/hurry_up_with_the_misery_40x40.gif

[verbal copper]

I shall eagerly await to hear from them

[modern pulsar]

Both

[verbal copper]

I have none

[modern pulsar]

Harvard level of thinking

[verbal copper]

[exotic lark]

Peak

[burnt tusk]

I thought pirek is

[burnt tusk]

Don't we all have the second one

[modern pulsar]

Pirek is a community manager if I'm right

[burnt tusk]

If you're in this chat you automatically get it

[verbal copper]

I don't work here, I volunteer

[exotic lark]

We are all Dying Light players

[verbal copper]

I don't have a boss

[exotic lark]

We deserve the first row seat at the mental asylum

[burnt tusk]

They say superior tho

[distant horizon]

DL2 will use all the brute force processing power you can throw at it as well, running it full whack is pretty much limited to ludicrous-level PCs

[modern pulsar]

We deserve the mental asylum itself

[exotic lark]

Wait mental asylum

DLC2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[modern pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1109481251880050708.gif?size=48

[distant horizon]

There's lots of references to the Opera in the game files, is that part of Bloody Ties?

[verbal copper]

She lets us run the server, she has other responsibilities

[modern pulsar]

It is

[distant horizon]

Ah I thought so, I just knew it was something I hadn't seen quite yet

[burnt tusk]

I want to say something

[verbal copper]

go ahead

[burnt tusk]

That would get me mauled

[verbal copper]

why?

[burnt tusk]

So I won't say it

[verbal copper]

[burnt tusk]

Let's just say

[verbal copper]

Now I want to know

[modern pulsar]

Drop the bomb

[burnt tusk]

Saying this would be the equivalent of me going into dl2 Reddit and saying I hate guns

So I won't say it

[verbal copper]

lol

Speak your mind, you said it yourself, this is a place for discussion

[burnt tusk]

Actually

Gimme a sec

[distant horizon]

The guns being gone was a bit odd at first, but once I got to try a few and realised that it didn't actually transform the game and why they had been left out I wasn't too bothered. Playing DL1 I feel like an unstoppable killing machine, not in DL2 though

[verbal copper]

It's good that the guns are fully optional

I don't use them much

[distant horizon]

The vertigo while climbing those broadcast towers I've not felt since Assassins Creed 2, the games after that seemed to forget about that fundamental part of the game entirely

[modern pulsar]

So i redeemed my twitch drop and it doesnt give me it

how do i transfer it to my techtown thing

[burnt tusk]

I mean tbh since now you need to finish the lost armoury quest to access the tower raid I doubt that can be used anymore

[modern pulsar]

Spiritfire shotgun is the joy of my life for me

[distant horizon]

Fighting an entire base of humans armed with sticks then suddenly just pulling out a machine gun and mowing them all down will always be funny though

Just like switching off their UV lighting

[modern pulsar]

Doing the lost armory quest won't force you to use firearms

Yeah the tower raid placement is ass, being there but it's in beta

[distant horizon]

That's something I must try, go into one of the bases and stand beside the power switch, then just fire a single shot into the air and turn it all off

[burnt tusk]

It's not really forcing but it is introducing guns to the game

So like same shit different for me

Their promise is the quest is optional so locking an endgame mode behind it is....eh

[modern pulsar]

It's in beta

I hope they add it as a physical location somehow

so like can someone help me or not with twitch drops

[silver osprey]

um

[burnt tusk]

The discussion is wether they would change it down the line or not

[distant horizon]

I think you need to ask in the support channel, this is just people saying they hate the game or they love it and arguing the semantics of the word "promise"

[late widget]

When did u claim it ?

[verbal copper]

You don't need to fire a gun once though to finish Lost Armoury, Iirc

[modern pulsar]

30 minutes ago

[burnt tusk]

Since the tower have guns in it they'd had to introduce it into the game first

[modern pulsar]

i waited 2 hours to get it and then redeem it, theres nothing i can do on the pilgram website after redeeming it on twitch

[silver osprey]

that's why it is in beta, with enough feedback they'll probably change tower placement

[burnt tusk]

Yes but as I've said again. Their claim is you can just skip the quest if you don't want guns in the story or the game so feels kinda weird that they changed it down the line

[modern pulsar]

they say to do soemthing on pilgram website to get the twitch drop but theres nothing

[burnt tusk]

I don't think placement can be changed tbh

[modern pulsar]

Link your account to your twitch account

i have.

[distant horizon]

I remember Twitch drops being introduced to Warframe and the devs forgetting to put sanity checks on the actual numbers. They let everyone keep them which was nice though, even though people had hundreds of streams open and their servers fell over under the strain of assigning the millions of drops..

[silver osprey]

it could, we will have to see ig

[modern pulsar]

o

[late widget]

mine took an hour to get it, the longest I've waited for a twitch drop is a week before it showed up

[modern pulsar]

oh look i claimed it with the correct accounts linked

[verbal copper]

No question it was bending to community pressure, I would have been just fine without them too

That being said, I don't care they are there

[modern pulsar]

so you're telling me ontop of the 2 hours i have to wait another 1 hour

[signal shale]

in game, it looks NOTHING like that btw.

[burnt tusk]

Eh, in this particular case it feels more of a necessary adjustment due to how tower have guns , so they'd have to introduce it to the lore

Either way

[distant horizon]

With Warframe you had to wait literal days because there were so many, it's quite an inefficient system but I think that's more Amazon's side rather than Techland's

[burnt tusk]

I'm past that petty grudge now so

[modern pulsar]

is it good.. or bad

[burnt tusk]

Doesn't really change much for me

[verbal copper]

it is what it is, ya

[burnt tusk]

It's still funny they did so

[modern pulsar]

is the weapon good damage

They could just lock the door which has the guns in them 💀

[burnt tusk]

Isn't It on the table

[signal shale]

bad.

[burnt tusk]

Plus it is pointless gesture

[modern pulsar]

the damage?

And jai will say something along the lines, idk "I looked around the tower and found guns in the lobby in a certain room"

[signal shale]

not sure

[distant horizon]

Twitch drops I always think are a bit unfair to the streamers, it artificially inflates their numbers temporarily so they see them suddenly drop back to where they were before

[signal shale]

its ok-ish i guess

[burnt tusk]

I despise guns, don't get me wrong but to alter the whole story just for an already failed premise is pointless

[modern pulsar]

do you not know the damage

what

[modern pulsar]

It's in a room, which is only accessible from one way

If you barricade that one way or other you locked guns entirely

[burnt tusk]

Oh you mean THAT room

Eh like, what's the point. You can just not take it

[modern pulsar]

Makes guns not obtainable until you do the jai questline

[silver ridge]

Ive seen like 3 different videos saying dl2 has nothing going on right after techland released the open beta

[signal shale]

i think it depends on ur level

[modern pulsar]

So you can have tower raid early on without having access to guns

[signal shale]

which kinda sucks imo

[burnt tusk]

You already need to do the jai questline to unlock tower raid no?

[silver ridge]

I mean yea tower raid is barebones now but its its first week

[modern pulsar]

I meant if they change the way to access tower raid

[burnt tusk]

This depends

[signal shale]

dont forget its been promised to come out in Winter.

[burnt tusk]

Unless elite gamemode adds that much content

[silver ridge]

Dl2 players are the type of people to scarf down a burger in 2 bites and still be hungry

[burnt tusk]

I doubt it will be different

[distant horizon]

promised?! That means 100% day 1 it's there I think

[late widget]

normally they appear within a day depending on how much traffic twitch has

[burnt tusk]

This is supposed to be a repeatable quest brother

It's THE endgame

[signal shale]

not day one, it was on the roadmap for 2023

[silver ridge]

Im aware im just saying people are far too impatient

[burnt tusk]

Eh, I mean

On one hand, this is beta

[silver ridge]

My advice is to play literally any other game

[burnt tusk]

On the other, 2 months of silence for this that's removed in 3 weeks

[silver ridge]

If you only play one game ofc youll get bored fast

[distant horizon]

I was just being sarcastic 🙂 I've not really played much with co-op on DL2 because so far I'm never really sure what they want me to do when I forget to set it to single player

[burnt tusk]

Not exactly the point but sure

[distant horizon]

I'm always paranoid I'll be making the game rubbish for someone by not playing properly or something

[signal shale]

oh ye just a sidenote

coop still is WACKY

like how

how is coop still worse than DL1

[distant horizon]

I didn't really get how the events worked at first, seeing a samurai appear out of nowhere during the For Honour event made no sense to me

Or why another time I suddenly had a gun with unlimited ammo

[signal shale]

i hate how those enemies had new unique animations, but normal enemies dont have any new ones since RELEASE

[distant horizon]

There are new ones aren't there? I'm sure I've seen some but they are so rarely used.

[modern pulsar]

I think renegades use the vikings rage attack

That jump spam spam shit

[burnt tusk]

The result of when you focus on check marking pilgrim outpost first

[signal shale]

No.

[distant horizon]

I still can't work out how to get my character to do the cool flip move with the katana, I don't even know how I triggered it

[burnt tusk]

Instead of prioritising fixing your game

[modern pulsar]

Strange it seemed really similar to me

[signal shale]

if techland wont rework lighting system and overhaul the map next year, the game is dead

[exotic lark]

Actually a lot of the NPC animations were remade in one of the recent updates

[modern pulsar]

What flip move?

[signal shale]

were there?

[exotic lark]

and they added a new move or maybe improved an existing one for Renegades where they can like regenerate themselves by going apeshit or something

[distant horizon]

The random things your character says needs a bit of work too. He often goes "uhhh" as if he's bored of doing the same things over and over but I think it's meant to sound like he's scared or exhausted

[modern pulsar]

Yeah that's what I talked about

[signal shale]

what? do u have a clip or something?

[modern pulsar]

But strange vikings from the for honor event had that move

[distant horizon]

It's more of an idle animation on the weapon, I chopped off a couple of enemies heads and he kind of spin the weapon over in his hand and I've never seen him do it again

[modern pulsar]

Power attack

On the right hand

[distant horizon]

Does that trigger it?

[modern pulsar]

It does

[distant horizon]

I'm still getting the hang of even using the drop kick

[signal shale]

can someone show me an example of the new renegade move?

[modern pulsar]

Just hop on and try fucking with renegades

[distant horizon]

Isn't the Renegade kind of dancing from side to side on his feet new?

[modern pulsar]

With low dmg weapons

[burnt tusk]

Pray their "5 year support" isn't filling the remaining 3 years with pilgrim suggestion or making simple bug fixes after dlc2

[peak sun]

Got all of the new Jai weapons and they’re all peacekeeper themed, shotgun, axe, stick, scythe and the twitch drop one expect the twitch drop hammer doesn’t actually have a PK skin

[signal shale]

i have different version of DL2 at the moment

[modern pulsar]

Once their hp starts to plummet they go aiden babaiden crazy and jump and spam attack the shit out of the player

[modern pulsar]

I think it was added with reloaded edition or do you use an even older build?

[distant horizon]

I was glad that I gave the broadcast tower to the other side, I didn't get who this person making me follow her about even was never mind why I should suddenly care about her or the old bloke who kept contacting me on my radio about her

That's the only reason I chose not to let her control it, she just showed up and suddenly decided I was finding her shoes for her etc Find your own shoes...

[exotic lark]

They use the build a couple updates after GNGL update

so basically GNGL update

[burnt tusk]

WHAT

[modern pulsar]

Damn that's old

[burnt tusk]

WHY?

[exotic lark]

E3 Definitive uses that build of the game

[distant horizon]

How do you manage running specific builds without wrecking save files etc?

[modern pulsar]

When I get home I'll try to take a video of one

[viscid rock]

i think his game might be pirated and he didnt bother to update it

[signal shale]

ye my game uses 12.1

[viscid rock]

idk

[exotic lark]

They needed a stable build of the game with the most amount of fixes and least amount of model changes

[distant horizon]

Ah right, that makes sense.

[signal shale]

reloaded edition messed up the graphics so badly

that's another reason.

[exotic lark]

Reloaded Edition lighting update was a good idea, quite bad how it turned out, can't complain about the new vegetation though, miles better

[signal shale]

also wait, are u guys saying when a renegade screams and sprints towads aiden then swings like a monkey, is that what u call the new move or?

[distant horizon]

I would like to try the game before the gore rework, the physics on the infected in DL1 may be technically inferior but it still looks better in places than DL2

[exotic lark]

No

[burnt tusk]

Visuals were probably the one good thing that came out of the update

[paper harbor]

Can someone drop me lots of trophies so I can LV up my legendary lv

[peak sun]

No

[modern pulsar]

The bake problem has been fixed or at least I have not seen unbaked lighting instances in buildings

[distant horizon]

Seeing the infected trip on ledges or stagger over steps in DL1 still looks amazing, DL2 I'm guessing is default to the baked animations quite a bit too often to deal with the extra gore effects

[exotic lark]

They messed up baked lighting, global illumination and ambient occlusion.
The new skyboxes, while less compressed and higher quality, look very much worse at times.
I don't like the direction they went with, all color grading has a jungle green tint on it.

[distant horizon]

I've not tried the dev tools but I'd be interested in something that can parse the bak files to show all the variables that are in there. As far as I can tell everything down to the baseline of gravity for the physics engine is in there

[viscid rock]

techland decided to fuck up shit in favour of a fuck ton of dlcs

[exotic lark]

Huh?

[viscid rock]

the updates are lazy

[modern pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1004924625861480448.gif?size=48

[exotic lark]

I don't understand

[viscid rock]

least obvious rage bait

[distant horizon]

The DLCs may well have been part of a contracted plan that the devs had no choice to deviate from, all the kind of stuff that they wouldn't be able to talk about since it'd be under NDA by default

[viscid rock]

yeah im kidding lmao

[exotic lark]

do by DLCs you mean updates?

[viscid rock]

theres too many dlcs going around tho

[exotic lark]

or bundles?

[viscid rock]

gun for 500 dl points

i imagine techland will just add a way for us to buy pilgrim tokens at some point

[exotic lark]

Actually bundles don't impact the quality of the updates, Tymon even said in an interview that the DL shop is handled by a seperate team.

[distant horizon]

Techland are the publisher actually, but is there not someone else also funding ongoing development?

[exotic lark]

I hate them with a passion, but they're not the reason the updates have issues.

[distant horizon]

The in-game points shop is so broken, that doesn't surprise me that a different team are writing it

The integration with Steam is bugged in some pretty fundamental ways from what I've seen so far

[signal shale]

i love reloaded edition

[unreal tartan]

I hate the break it to anyone here, I didn't have many bugs before the update but somehow after update I have a ton of them

[distant horizon]

Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again?

[peak sun]

Have you tried turning it off and not turning it back on again?

[distant horizon]

Was the DX12 option always there?

[unreal tartan]

Lol I'm on ps5, I had little to no bugs post tower update but after update I seem to run into alot of them

[patent isle]

i realize that splitting losses some speed, anyone have a quantifiable number?

[unreal tartan]

Whatever else they touched with that update made the game as buggy as it was on launch basically

[sturdy abyss]

Its not DLC its bundle 🤓 👆

[distant horizon]

I've been lucky for some reason, any bugs I run into have always been my own fault for trying out mods. I really should just set the mods up properly so I'm not just packing them directly into the main install of the game

[exotic lark]

They brightened the shadows but didn't brighten baked lighting which is why these gaps are now more noticeable.
Just a theory though, since this was an issue before, just less noticeable.

[hollow bay]

guys i completed the game rn,what is that flag with plus on start campaign?

[viscid rock]

the editions are also kind of a scam

you should at least get some dl points when buying the ultimate edition

[unreal tartan]

Na I've never had issues with quests bugging out, elevators, etc now all of a sudden then drop an update and the games a buggy mess

[burnt tusk]

I wouldn't call bundles the reason for the decline of the quality of the game but the oversaturation of bundles is definitely a problem

[viscid rock]

instead of like 2 outfits dlc2

[distant horizon]

The global illumination doesn't quite work sometimes with raytracing on since I think the prebaked shadows are replaced, showing up where the old system was technically weak or unrealistic

[exotic lark]

You can start a New Game Plus, it'll reset you back to after the prologue but you'll keep all your items and abilities.

[distant horizon]

Since it relied on fake lights being placed as well when you take those away and use "real" lighting lots of things start looking weird

[sturdy abyss]

You sure dont know the difference between a bundle and DLC

[hollow bay]

i wanna start on a mission like dying light

[burnt tusk]

I mean

[distant horizon]

Or if you don't take those fake lights away, suddenly they are strange looking because they're being calculated along with every other light source for ambient occlusion and shadows

[burnt tusk]

Dlc is downloadable content

Bundles is just a fancy way for techland to call dlc tbf

[hollow bay]

aww why

[exotic lark]

Uhhh I don't understand

[wanton junco]

I've just had Descrendo on the last level, and Decoys are the best for it. Completely ignore the biters, just use decoys and kill any Virals, Bombers, Spitters and the Goon. Your damage won't be reduce by much.

[hollow bay]

in first game you can start on like last mission

[distant horizon]

I think that's why the game looks so much better underground to demonstrate the raytracing, there's no fake lights or prebaked shadow textures to make things look odd

[unreal tartan]

Or just spam uvs lol

[exotic lark]

Yeah you can do that too, just continue the game, you don't have to do New Game Plus

It's optional

[hollow bay]

ok

[exotic lark]

just don't click the button that says "start New Game Plus" or something like that

[wanton junco]

UVs are expensive to craft, I have enough to light the whole city though, but for people who don't have sufficient enough UVs, Decoys are better areore cost effecient.

[hollow bay]

oh thanks

[late widget]

Do you want others to grind for you just because you are too lazy?

[viscid rock]

wait till he discovers what nexusmods is

[distant horizon]

volumetrics are another thing you can't see very well outside, which is annoying given how much of an effect the detail of them can have on performance. I don't think they're all prebaked, but I don't know Techland's engine to know how they're done

[unreal tartan]

You can farm the materials to craft them from the tower

[late widget]

lol yes

[burnt tusk]

I'm fairly certain if UV is an issue for them. Tower is just gonna burn more materials then they gain in there

[exotic lark]

Fog is extremely underused in the game, a lot of the times of day' weathers have Near Fog (Volumetric fog) set to 1.0 and Far Fog set to 1.0, which basically means fog disabled

[wanton junco]

I know, you get a graunteed 35 Oxiders on the last level. But again, it's better to use Decoys at first until you have a suffice enough recourses to be able to spam them.

[viscid rock]

isnt there a bug rn that allows you to get infinite materials from the last chest?

[wanton junco]

Not as far as I know.

[distant horizon]

Do the dev tools let you modify things like that in real time? I'd be really interesetd to mess about with the engine in the same way you can with UE as it seems really powerful but underused (probably because of the requirement to run on consoles)

[viscid rock]

try running to one of the sides when u complete tower raid. Like max to the right after unlocking the chest

i saw a video on it

[distant horizon]

Things like the blast wave being visible from explosions I remember from the release version but now seems to be gone

[exotic lark]

I'm not sure as I don't use devtools much, but there definitely should be a way to control fog there

[wanton junco]

Fair enough, but I prefer achieving my rewards without the use of exploits. I'd rather work for it then max out inmediatly.

[tender bloom]

should i choose go to center or what i promised alberto ?

[distant horizon]

I've not tried the user tools from nexus yet, I'd be surprised if someone hasn't written a tool to just list and modify all the values in the base data files. It's effectively the entire game and every detail described in json format so easy to read and modify which I thought was damn cool

[hollow bay]

uhh, what is NG+?

[wanton junco]

New Game+

[exotic lark]

You can modify the scripts very easily

[wanton junco]

You start all over again but you keep your levels, weapons, rewards e.t.c

You get 30 extra Inhibitors

[distant horizon]

Yeah I was surprised how easy it was, all you need to do is unarchive the dat files and it's there in plain text

[exotic lark]

Yep

[hollow bay]

im already fulled everything (legendary too cuz im crazy)

[exotic lark]

do not edit your data0 though, you can create a new data pak and call it datax.pak, replace the x with a number from 2 to 7 and it'll load

[viscid rock]

the acceptable form of modding is shitposting

[exotic lark]

data2 will load on the bottom, data7 will load on top

[viscid rock]

lawan to volatile

[exotic lark]

https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglight2/mods/1441

[distant horizon]

I wasn't expecting it to be so open, most games will encrypt all that to try and stop players but DL2 has it set out in a way that is clearly intended to help development while also allowing modding. The entire game, like absolutely everything, appears to be described in those text files. All you are missing is the texture data etc but I've not tried looking to see how they're packaged

[viscid rock]

i need a mod thats just that 2 dudes kissing picture for one of the subway posters where the dudes are staring at each other

remembering that from memory

[exotic lark]

We can edit textures, there is an official and unofficial way to do it, the unofficial way is better if you're just modding textures, the official way is through devtools.

[distant horizon]

Sometimes you'll see it with games running on Unreal Engine, where for some reason the packaged files are just sat there like they've come straight out of the editor without having it set to produce a release version

[silver osprey]

oh god

[distant horizon]

Are they just packaged without encryption too? That would be cool and would make sense since it allows for proper modding rather than just changing the main game

[silver osprey]

ASJDJSADAJSD

[exotic lark]

You have to unpack them first

[exotic lark]

but not like data.pak, you need special software and scripts

[distant horizon]

I'll have to take a look, it'd be interesting to try and see how their engine works beyond just the description of enemies, areas etc

[exotic lark]

https://www.nexusmods.com/dyinglight2/mods/583

[distant horizon]

I would kind of expect them to be compressed and optimised per map area but not actually designed to keep modders out

[dry sigil]

yoo guys my friend got dyinglight 2 on pc and i got it on ps4 can we both play the tower thingy?

[exotic lark]

No, there is sadly no crossplay

[dry sigil]

:c

[distant horizon]

It's a damn impressive engine when running on a powerful PC, I think it uses its own physics engine doesn't it? Using Havok is often what forces devs to make everything closed to modders since the code isn't their's to distribute

I can't remember what PhysX has in terms of licensing anymore

[lyric saffron]

I uhm... I have a complaint about lvl 5 night chases... They're too easy to escape...

[hollow bay]

you should Call for help NOW!

[lyric saffron]

I didn't even get hit once....

[distant horizon]

I wonder what will happen if I just set the physics to update 60 times per second rather than 30. Will it go into Benny Hill mode or just break the entire game because the pre-baked animations aren't in sync anymore

[unreal tartan]

Anyone notice the text at the bottom

Of that picture

[exotic lark]

but when I say the game underuses fog I mean it, like look

[distant horizon]

Picture?

[exotic lark]

this is modded

This is how fog could look if they just wanted to use it

[distant horizon]

Yeah, I suppose it kind of makes sense since there's no cars etc anymore. But given the engine is capable of doing it having days where there is lots of fog at ground level would be cool. Assuming it isn't just there to obscure LOD drop-off of course

[silver osprey]

more fog would make the map seem "bigger"

[exotic lark]

Yep

[silver osprey]

like gta sa

[exotic lark]

literally the most important thing to making distant horizons look distant is fog, and they just don't use it most of the time

[distant horizon]

San Andreas I found it a bit heavy-handed, it made the game look like Beverly Hills Cop 2 rather than realistic imo. The fact that game ran at all on PS2 is a minor miracle though

Supposedly that then lead to RDR being such a mess, it barely ran at all and porting it to other platforms was just impossible

I'm mainly interested in seeing how they've improved the engine with GTA6, the move from 4 to 5 was a step backwards on the physics side of things so I hope it's not like that

[exotic lark]

Definitely will be a step forwards

[unreal tartan]

Well gta 5 was garbage and still is

[exotic lark]

HUH

[unreal tartan]

I was good pre opressor

It's trash now

[exotic lark]

oh you mean GTA Online

not the entire game

[late widget]

It's easy to make it harder if I just want to. skip paraglider/grapple hook. run stop and fight then run a little, and do the same procedure.

[unreal tartan]

Yea they basically catored all their vehicles towards griefers and toxic players while simultaneously punishing people for griefing and being toxic by putting them in bad sport lobbies, it makes zero sense

And gta6 better not have crossplay with pc, keep that garbage out of console lobbies

[distant horizon]

I forgot I'd stuck the new dev version of DLSS into DL2, White Collie 1 and 2 are the current ones and meant to reduce ghosting which might help the AA. I think the base game uses a relatively old version of the dlss DLLs

[unreal tartan]

Because I already know gta6 online if it's crossplay with pc it's going to be riddled with cheaters and modders within a month of launch

[exotic lark]

You can try, the game could really use the most recent RTX and DLSS as seen in Cyberpunk

[distant horizon]

Injecting HDR at the driver level works quite well, just nvidia haven't quite got their new control panel tool working yet. At least it's better than the old utterly broken one we've been using for years

[unreal tartan]

Cyberpunk was gonna have something similar to gta online, I'm glad they didn't tho

[distant horizon]

I think Cyberpunk is slightly out of date too actually, but the HDR in that is totally broken so I don't find the raytracing to be as impressive as it could be at all without mods

[exotic lark]

Cyberpunk is too jank to have an online mode (I don't mean it in a bad way, it's one of my favourite games ever, it's just that the engine should be left alone lmao)

[unreal tartan]

I just want game companies to understand console doesn't want crossplay with pc on any games that have pvp

[distant horizon]

Yeah the Red engine seems to be at its Red Dead Redemption moment, it just needs rebuilt from scratch because it's always on the verge of total collapse

[unreal tartan]

I'm fine with co op games having crossplay

[exotic lark]

They gave up on it, they're now using Unreal Engine 5 for future projects

[unreal tartan]

I own both a pc and a ps5, gravitate more towards the ps5 when it comes to gaming cause theirs less bs to deal with on games that have pvp unless they are crossplay then rip lol

[silver osprey]

sony supremacy

[distant horizon]

tbh I think that's probably better. UE5 is such a powerful engine when customised. I mean, it looks amazing just using all the default stuff and no custom shaders but I want to see what a dev team who really know what they're doing can do with it

UE5 makes it almost trivial to hit near photo-realism, it's mad

[unreal tartan]

Xbox has a cheating issue because Microsoft has like 5 braincells and they use a full pc port of windows on their console allowing for cheats to be ported rather easily

[jolly jackal]

are community maps broken on console

[exotic lark]

I hope they don't just do realism, and go more stylized. The game and characters can look realistic sure but I hope they don't make them just realistic if you know what I mean.

[silver osprey]

microsoft has everything to become the biggest publisher and developer

they just suck at it

[unreal tartan]

It's why you see more console cheaters on Xbox than on ps5 when playing on games that have console only crossplay. The most you have to deal with on ps5 most of the time is maybe recoil cheats and people playing mkb on games that don't support it

[distant horizon]

Yeah totally, the mods to make it "photo-real" just kind of throw the art-designer's work in the bin. Given that's a fundamental part of the game as a whole it might look impressive but I wouldn't want to play the thing with it on

[exotic lark]

like with Witcher 3, characters looked realistic but had a stylistic spin to them, and the landscapes were like a painting

[tribal rock]

same with unity, sons of the forest used unity and i almost couldn’t tell the difference between unreal 5 and unity while playing that game

[unreal tartan]

Well xbox has kinda broken several laws when it comes to monopolies the past couple years and have somehow magically gotten away with it.

[distant horizon]

Like that game Body-Cam, it's not doing much more than using a different camera with noise added to make it seem more realistic but it's very effective. I wouldn't say it looks "better" than Cyberpunk or DL2 though

[jolly jackal]

^ ?????

[verbal copper]

no

[unreal tartan]

They shouldn't of been able to aquire activision/blizzard and Bethesda.... some laws were broken

[distant horizon]

It's crazy how Unity can look so so good in the hands of some devs and totally awful in others.

[late widget]

https://discord.com/channels/289739584546275339/289746268358705152

[tribal rock]

monopoly laws have a ton of loopholes, i think xbox gets away with it because technically 2 more console company’s exist

[verbal copper]

log out, log back in,restart the console

[jolly jackal]

was asking for a friend

[distant horizon]

I hope Techland stick with their engine for whatever they're doing next, with all the settings whacked up full blast it's really damn good

[verbal copper]

it will work for him too

[silver osprey]

dl3

[unreal tartan]

I heard they were gonna try to buy steam... if they actually did they would 100% end up in massive legal trouble because that right there is 100% illegal for them to even try to acquire that company.

[exotic lark]

Thank you for reminding me that I need to put more indie games in my Summer Sale games-to-buy list

[distant horizon]

The amount of power it can use though, that might be a drawback since consoles aren't gonna be doing that for a very long time as it's pretty much pure brute force

[exotic lark]

That was a fake rumour 99% sure

[verbal copper]

Back to DL2 guys

[unreal tartan]

If they really did they'd end up getting monopoly charges

[exotic lark]

Oh yeah this is DL2 chat, uhhhh Kyle Crane

[verbal copper]

lol

[exotic lark]

no wait

[distant horizon]

Just looking at a stream of DL2, the cloth physics on military vehicles affected by the wind is amazing

[verbal copper]

the other guy, ya

[exotic lark]

Aiden Babaiden

[tribal rock]

yea, steam is a distributer and if xbox tried to acquire them, epic, EA, and ubisoft would go after them for monopoly

[unreal tartan]

Anyway back to dl2

[verbal copper]

or go to #🎯︱other-games ez

[distant horizon]

I wonder how much of the zombie animations defaulting to the pre-baked is what breaks the illusion in DL2 now

[silver osprey]

aidy

[unreal tartan]

Aidy barbadie

😂😂

[silver osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-redemption-iam-abir82-liverpool-kick-kick-kid-gif-22437195

[distant horizon]

The NPCs seem oddly unconcerned that I accidentally have just killed two of them outside the front door, in full view of everyone

[unreal tartan]

Aidy seems kinda shady, chasing after some random lady

[distant horizon]

I thought her apartment was gonna have a zombie boyfriend waiting for me or something, but no just her shoes. Why wouldn't she go in again? Was it just so I would "discover" that she knew that other guy I can't remember the name of?

[burnt tusk]

Nuh uh, revolution time

https://tenor.com/view/viva-la-revolution-gif-11760395

[tribal rock]

fr i didn’t understand that quest, it just built on a relationship i didn’t need to know existed

[distant horizon]

The Aliens reference in Broadcast was a bit on-the-nose, but it was still pretty cool

[unreal tartan]

I am slowly loosing faith in techland tho

[distant horizon]

exactly, "Why am I following you again? We've only just met"

[unreal tartan]

They were a 1 hit wonder

[tribal rock]

besides, i even let her kill the bastard for betraying me, i didn’t need to know that they where dating, that’s completely irrelevant to me

[distant horizon]

I can barely even remember who the guy was, I just recognised him from some earlier missions. I didn't know why I was meant to care, or feel betrayed because it was of no interest 😂

[unreal tartan]

Remember back in the day when developers actually made sure they polished their games instead of releasing them basically on beta stage and them taking 2 years to fix them where they actually meet the requirements to even be concidered mid

😂😂

[distant horizon]

She just turns up out of nowhere and starts demanding I do things for her, all the while her dad is insulting me over the radio

[unreal tartan]

Those were the days man.... those were the days

[tribal rock]

when i did my new game +, i let him live just for the ending, but other than that he is of no importance

[distant horizon]

"Comes and speak to my dad before you climb the tower" No, why would I? I'm going up there with these guys and I don't know why you think I'd listen to you or your dad

[tribal rock]

fr

me climb tower, you no say no

[distant horizon]

I had much more reason to trust them than her, for all I knew she was a spy or something. They went up that building with me and risked their lives, she just waited at the top and let them all die!

"You were up here the whole time, and I'm the one in the wrong?!"

[tribal rock]

fr (i totally didn’t give frank the tower)

[unreal tartan]

Help us save aitor asks Jack

Never sees aitor again after saving his life says game

My lore is that jack had us save aitor so he could kill him himself

[distant horizon]

I didn't give him the tower cos I had no idea why I would trust him, all he'd done is insult me so he was getting nothing

[tribal rock]

yea, i’ve done every ending now, and the survivors ending with lawan and hakon surviving is my favorite

[distant horizon]

I wish there was an option to say "Please stay off my radio, Frank. I don't know you, please stop calling"

Or go and meet him and accidentally lead a load of volatiles in

[unreal tartan]

I wish there was an optional side quest to kill jack

I want to kill jack matt

[tribal rock]

the Juan Raner ending is also pretty funny

[distant horizon]

"ok Jack, I'm not going up anymore. Now we just sit and wait for the end. Good plan.."

[unreal tartan]

My man's is a horrible person

[tribal rock]

fr, i never liked jack that’s why i gave the tower to frank

[distant horizon]

We'd not even have the grappling hook if Frank had his way. Maybe that's why, he wanted to go up there himself and take it

[unreal tartan]

Baked imma dm you something funny

[tribal rock]

k

[viscid rock]

pilgrim outpost down?

[distant horizon]

drop claimed, how many scrap does this dismantle to?

[viscid rock]

or is it just me

[versed bobcat]

Any basic troubleshooting on why co-op doesn't work in here?

[verbal copper]

oh oh

[tribal rock]

i’m gonna make some coffee rq

[distant horizon]

yeah not loading for me either..

[fast wyvern]

oops

[viscid rock]

pilgrim isnt outposting

[unreal tartan]

@tribal rock go look at your dms lol

[fast wyvern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965723750723100745/973678342710644796/image0-31.gif

[distant horizon]

I blame Frank

[viscid rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1212163124375982150/1240257245112045649/Screenshot_20240506_205235_Reddit.gif

[fast wyvern]

PIWO PIWO PIWO

[tribal rock]

ON GOD BRO

[unreal tartan]

I swear to god the similarities are fucking insane

[tribal rock]

yea

now that i think about it, it too similar

[unreal tartan]

You'll never be able to unsee that take for now on

[viscid rock]

i wonder

if i will create another pilgrim outpost account and unlink my current one will i be able to redeem the prizes twice?

like 2 sets of first pilgrim

[tribal rock]

i think you can only have one account linked to one epic or steam account

[unreal tartan]

Yea baked is never gonna be able to unsee that hot take on the games story ever again

[distant horizon]

Oh Techland have some dev talks from GIC, I don't think I've seen these. Nvidia's new stuff looks like it might be capable of running a general AI co-op bot that doesn't have to be trained per game, that would be damn cool

The demos of the conversational AI for NPCs is very impressive, so far it's just tech demos though with very limited actual game areas so you can't break it quite as easily.

If you load a new game it's easy to convince the characters you are from the future by telling them what is about to happen, I'd love to be able to tell Frank that I've already climbed the tower 20 times and that it's his daughter he needs to stop going looking for shoes

[viscid rock]

lawan isnt franks daughter lol

[distant horizon]

Both character had that much of an impact that I didn't even know 😂

[viscid rock]

lmao

[distant horizon]

I just knew that I was being asked to suddenly trust a total stranger

Over the people that had demonstrated that they could be trusted. It went against everything else that had happened and felt totally out of place

As if she was from a different, earlier version of the game maybe

Outpost seems to be back online

[viscid rock]

the dl1 bounties are a pain

if toads was replaced by 600 biters or 20 goons that would make it the ultimate pain

[distant horizon]

I haven't really bothered with them, they just looked like they'd take forever

[viscid rock]

well i have to kinda bother with em

since im 1k xp short

[wary bronze]

yo guys I just finished main story and lawan-hakon-frank still alive. Can I find them for one more talk or they just dissappear?

[viscid rock]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-illusionist-magician-jochem-nooyen-gone-gif-17492543

[woven thicket]

they dissapear

[viscid rock]

you dont have perms

[hollow bay]

i wanna start back on x13 misson but how

[viscid rock]

the first colored rank gives u image perms

[hollow bay]

or boost the server

[wary bronze]

[hollow bay]

hehe

[wary bronze]

is there any game like dying light, I mean open world-zombie theme-story game? Dont tell me last of us

Rdr 2 good but its not zombie theme

[viscid rock]

roblox adopt me

not open world but filled with zombies that "trade"

[signal shale]

been trying to get that "new" renegade move

but they dont do it so idk

[exotic lark]

The holy grail of fan-service

[sterile apex]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-tf2engineer-use-a-gun-and-if-that-dont-work-gif-17911768

[cursive vector]

anyone know if it's possible to unequip night runner tools?

[latent mortar]

Only the hook and uv flashlight

[cursive vector]

what abt paraglider?

[latent mortar]

You hide it but not take it off

[cursive vector]

how do i hide to hook?

oh nvm

[tender narwhal]

I was expecting a revolver with 1 bullet

[wanton junco]

Random encounters at night is horrendous, especially on Nightmare difficulty, Volatiles should despawn around a Random encounter, especially when it's a Demolisher you have to kill.

[summer sable]

When we getting another collab

[last gale]

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[hollow bay]

what is ghost ping

i mean what i did

[verbal copper]

when you ping someone then delete it

[hollow bay]

well message is deleted

soo i deleted mine

otherwise what i ping for "air"

[verbal copper]

it's a ghost noti ping so the person can see who pinged them

[exotic lark]

John added that "Behave"

there is no other way

[verbal copper]

In fact, I did not

[hollow bay]

i am innocent girl

🙂

[verbal copper]

no one said you weren't

you just ghost pinged someone

[paper harbor]

Nope because am giving things in return depending on what that person wants

[hollow bay]

i read your about you

😱

[paper harbor]

My what

[hollow bay]

ur bio

[paper harbor]

So

[tender narwhal]

Hi average furry

[paper harbor]

What's the problem?

[hollow bay]

i got weird question guys

how do you play DL2 like solo horror game

or like co op game

[tender narwhal]

wdym

[hollow bay]

do you do online stuff or more singleplayer

[tender narwhal]

singleplayer but i think coop is more fun

[hollow bay]

i find single better

i once tried fc5 and dl2 co op

and the guy always pulled me to hard stuff 🙂

i died so much

[tender narwhal]

💀

[hollow bay]

while when i solo i go rly safe

i die mostly from fall dmg 😛

[paper harbor]

Will I be able to use my unused candy from last Halloween event and Christmas event on next Halloween and Christmas events?

[wanton junco]

Should be, I still got my candy in storage.

[tender narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1248910062181941358.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=freakynerd

[paper harbor]

I got 1m candy

[wanton junco]

1 million? That's... a lot, goddamn.

[hollow bay]

u remind me i cant loot more bullets

must move em in stash

how much i can put in stash btw

does stash have limit

[tender narwhal]

Yep

[tender narwhal]

sadly

[wanton junco]

Oh I was thinking of the event consumables.

It's possible we'll still be able to use them, maybe.

[paper harbor]

I never used them sadly

[wanton junco]

Tbh same, I just collected them and stored them thinking they're best used for something I'm struggling with.

And when I have been struggling I still never use them lmao.

[paper harbor]

I have lots of crates I just don't need them anymore

I have tons of RSS and good weapons

[wanton junco]

Same, thanks to the Tower Raid and Legend Levels I have nothing but Exotic and Legendary weapons.

[paper harbor]

Am just giving away all my crates for trophies so I can LV up my legendary

I was hoping tower raid would be hard but it means I can do it easily on nightmare

[wanton junco]

Same, we will be getting an elite mode for it on this Thursday I think, new modifiers and new floors.

[paper harbor]

Mhm

[wanton junco]

Might be challenging enough, but who knows

[paper harbor]

I thought since it was taking them so long it would be a bigger update bits you know it's just enough to keep me from being bored for a few days

[wanton junco]

Fair enough, it's the only time I hop back on Dying Light 2 sadly, to try the new events, updates and the Tower Raid. Waiting on DLC 2.

Otherwise I'm playing something else since I kinda 100% the game.

[west pollen]

I don’t like Aiden

[paper harbor]

Same I hope it's better then dlc. Dlc 1 is boring to be honest

[paper harbor]

Happened to me alot in the tower raid

[wanton junco]

Yeah, was a disappointment. But some has said DLC 2 will also be focusing on the Infected so I'm looking forward.

Too many zombie games seems to aim towards humanity after the world went to shit.

[paper harbor]

Am just looking for a challenge like bozak from dl1

[wanton junco]

I'm not sure if the Tower Raid is basically the Bozak of Dying Light 2 or the Prison Heist.

Or both.

[paper harbor]

It is like prison in my opinion

[wanton junco]

Yeah

[paper harbor]

It's good for farming weapons and ammo and meds

Dl2 is a great game but honestly I feel like the story doesn't fit and dlc1 is just no good

Apart from this the game is quite good

[wanton junco]

DL2's story was supposed to be different judging the E3 trailers. So it makes sense that it feels off.

[paper harbor]

I was also hoping guns would be better like with attachment and mods but they don't fit the game as well because of the story again

[wanton junco]

Seeing as they were recently added and weren't planned to be in the game to begin with.

But atleast we got guns, and a quest for it too so we just didn't get them out off the blue.

[paper harbor]

DIY guns would fit better like Scorpio

[wanton junco]

Yesterday I mentioned a Risk/Reward gun like a Musket would fit well in the game.

But yeah, DIY guns would suit the world.of Dying Light 2 great

[paper harbor]

Yep they would

I don't like how armour works it would need to be updated I guess

[steep lava]

i tried to grapple in the elevator in tower raid and my whole game crashed

[hushed cave]

i didnt even know techland marketed their game outside of trailers

[wanton junco]

The armoured infected? Two handed weapons and holding down for a charge attack with any weapon will negate the armour effect of making your weapons bounce off them.

[paper harbor]

No I mean armour you as a player wear

[wanton junco]

Oh right, what do you not like about it?

[paper harbor]

It's confusing for my small brain

Lots of numbers and names for different things

I just look at protection really

[wanton junco]

Fair enough, I'm fine with it, I only look for specific bonuses on each armour set, 1h/2h weapon damage, Stamina cost, Stamina regeneration and Damage reduction when being hit by certain enemies.

They only matter imo

[thorn scaffold]

just passed tower raid solo...die to fire extinguisher more than infected 🤣

[placid lava]

im wondering when dlc2 drops

[wanton junco]

On and Parkour cost

It's still unconfirmed sadly.

But DLC2 is in the works

[paper harbor]

Try it on nightmare it's not really hard

[placid lava]

its probably gonna be the only thing that makes me play dl2 again

[wanton junco]

Try out Tower Raid if you haven't atm mate

[fossil rose]

What is tower raid

[blissful ridge]

Heh I've been grinding for 2 hrs a day

[wanton junco]

The new content for Dying Light 2.

[paper harbor]

Usely I only play for week or two after update and then I wait for another update

[wanton junco]

Same

[fossil rose]

I quit dl2 cuz 1 hit weapons make it to ez and boring

Might get back into it

[woven thicket]

then don't use one hit weapons...

[wanton junco]

There are 2h weapons and ranged weapons.

[paper harbor]

Then stop playing on easy

[woven thicket]

• if the enemies are too weak increase the difficulty

[wanton junco]

And that

[fossil rose]

I play on hardest difficulty and it's still easy

[wanton junco]

Fist fight a Volatile

[paper harbor]

It's not 1 hit on nightmare

[wanton junco]

Unless you have a modded weapon

[paper harbor]

Nothing is 1 hit on nightmare without a gun and my best weapon dose 900 damage

No one makes good zombie games anymore

[exotic lark]

Dead Island 2

also in the last year or since a couple years?

[tawdry hare]

Not bad

[plain mesa]

The game is fun, although Dying Light 2 is more enjoyable (personally) solo, while Dead Island 2 has a much better experience to provide in coop

Mainly because coop is kinda still broken on DL2

[hollow bay]

ermmmmm how do i matchmake for tower raid

[wanton junco]

There are two ways, you can join off of someone, whether that's a friend or a random lobby or when you click on Tower Raid, there is another button prompt to matchmake underneath the prompt you press to start a Tower Raid.

[dapper surge]

Just bought that bundle but where is the carnage manica skin?

I am confused

[hollow bay]

where do i start tower raid

[wanton junco]

Jai's board.

[hollow bay]

thanks

[plain mesa]

You should see your skins in your stash, under the extra tab, scroll all the way down

[wanton junco]

No problemo

[dapper surge]

Shows nothing

I claimed it but i see nothing

Can anyone help me solve this

[digital egret]

Has it always been a thing that the more rare an arrow or bolt is, the more likely you are to recover it?

[late widget]

easy fix don't use them, and use low damage weapons.

[dapper surge]

How do you equip thing called The black scarab

Its saying its a blue print from the bundle

[digital egret]

The shield?

[hushed cave]

probably in the consuambles like the manica

[paper harbor]

They need to add the bridge from dl1 where the are hundreds of zombies one by one

[hollow bay]

same i focus on infected reduction and inc 1hand / 2 hand dmg and reduce stamina cost on wep swing

[blissful ridge]

Ooh

[hollow bay]

thing is i mix 3x 1hand 3x 2hand

i dunno if that is bad or good

but i like to play 2 hand and 1 hand

depend on fight

sometimes 2 hand is more needed sometimes 1hand fast speed is what i need

[wanton junco]

Aka loot paradise, that was my goto on every new save.

[hollow bay]

i think they need to improve physical bugs

and make more creepy ai interactions + older shader

like once i had rly fun creepy situation where night volatiles ate some pks and survivors

but thing is often survivors run like mad on every non ordinary zombie

never fight so they arent very reliable

while pk beat specials 🙂

or die trying

also for some reason i believe in the chemical area we need new monster

some giant that is slow but giant i mean giant

[limpid rivet]

How's everyone's day going

[hollow bay]

and the trick to fight is to slowly run away and fire at it

[hollow bay]

perfect

[limpid rivet]

Nice

[dapper surge]

Yea

[fringe flame]

hey, is it possible to drop a crossbow or swap it with something on the ground?

[dapper surge]

Do i have to complete bloody ties?

[limpid rivet]

Idk never tried that

It's probably not possible

[dapper surge]

Cuz it says it’s blue print but do not see anything

[fringe flame]

i dont have one and my friend has 2 but said he cannot drop it so i was just curious

[dapper surge]

Anyone?

Nvm got it

[limpid rivet]

For what

[dapper surge]

Nvm

Found it

[sullen seal]

how do i open the chests from the raid

can't find it anywhere

[limpid rivet]

Are you talking about the airdrop?

[crude sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ3aVbk8T9s in point !

[sullen seal]

yeah

[blissful ridge]

Prob a bug or something

[limpid rivet]

You will have to survive 4 minutes for it to open, once it's open there will be a gre key slot, once you open the little thing that's in the chest then grab the thing that looks like a military tech thingy, there will also be some resources and a exotic weapon waiting for you in that chest, once your done escape into the elevator.
Hope that helped

[blissful ridge]

Also cross your fingers and hope you don't get stuck on the elevator

[hushed cave]

no

[limpid rivet]

And you have to go through a total of 5 levels inorder to get to the top
It's probably 4 floors idk

[limpid rivet]

That happened to me while I was playing on mutiplayer

[blissful ridge]

Same

[limpid rivet]

It sucks

[crude sky]

the data speaks for itself, if dl2 was better than dl1, more people would play, and yet more people still play dl1 than dl2

[hushed cave]

its not dead though

[limpid rivet]

Yea it not dead

[blissful ridge]

But again,free legend lvl xp tho

[limpid rivet]

People still play dying light 2

[crude sky]

5 years of support, with two years to restore what dl1 had from the beginning

[hushed cave]

dl1 didnt have tower raid or nightamre from the beginning

[blissful ridge]

Yuh

Just prison

[limpid rivet]

Dying light 1 had nightmare s
From the start didn't it?

[crude sky]

wtf I mean more about the parkour night system

night system was cut off

[cursive vector]

why y'all always gotta be complaining abt the 2 games

[crude sky]

like parkour momentum

[hushed cave]

it was releasd alongside the upgraded enhanced whatever edition

[limpid rivet]

Oh got it

[hushed cave]

legend levels too

[crude sky]

I mean, what people loved in the first part was cut out, and after some time they slowly introduced weapons because people were moaning that they wanted them.

[limpid rivet]

[latent mortar]

Think I’m on my 6 or 7th run at tower raid

[limpid rivet]

I only did it 4 times

[hushed cave]

Dl1 is only really played anymore because of the PVP. note how its most active in the evening when people get back from work/school to play pvp

[crude sky]

I did the tower once, your own equipment should be blocked, it would be better and it's easy

[hushed cave]

elite diff will probably be like that

[tidal holly]

I like how tower raid lets you keep stuff

[crude sky]

In the tower we should only fight with what we find there, it would be much more difficult and interesting

[tidal holly]

Keep it that way please lol

[latent mortar]

The raid and xp booster is a nice combo

[hushed cave]

it would be impossible the way it is right now

[limpid rivet]

Like how we all get 400 scrap from the air drop and other things

[tidal holly]

And all that ammo 🤣

[latent mortar]

25 large infected trophies

[tidal holly]

Naw I like getting decked out every raid

[crude sky]

take your bypassed kaboom and smash evrything ye its fun

[latent mortar]

You seen the description for the hope plaza shotgun

[crude sky]

very fun

[tidal holly]

Never got the shotgun

[tidal holly]

Fr

[latent mortar]

It’s in that the room the moment you enter the building

[tidal holly]

Must have missed it

I only got the pistols and stuff

[cursive vector]

wait there is a shotgun in tower raid?

[limpid rivet]

Yea it's called the tower plaza shotgun

[cursive vector]

oh

[crude sky]

and what techland adds is practically the same, every time you run you destroy everything, there is a box waiting at the end

[limpid rivet]

With 3 other guns
They are:
Tower plaza security pistol, tower plaza rifle, and tower plaza smg

[late widget]

And evening is at different times depending on where you live in the world.

[twilit abyss]

hey guys, since about a week ago I can't play Dying Light 2 from my brother's Steam Family Share Library (says PURCHASE instead of PLAY), other games from the same library work just fine, I got him that copy so I wanted to play through the game, also it worked before, anyone knows about any changes in DRM or whatever?

[cursive vector]

oh wow

i never knew that

[limpid rivet]

And fun fact: they are the only common type of guns in the game

[cursive vector]

weren't there only 2 other rarity's' of guns?

[limpid rivet]

There are 3 rarity of guns and they are: rare, unique, and artifact

And now we got common

[cursive vector]

ohh

[limpid rivet]

So that makes it 4 raritys

[cursive vector]

wait there is a 4th rarity?

[limpid rivet]

That's common

[cursive vector]

which gun was the rare one?

bcs i know 2 rarity's from jai

[cursive vector]

what gun is rare?

[limpid rivet]

You mean the most rarest

To find?

[cursive vector]

nah i mean the rare rarity weapon?

for gun

[limpid rivet]

The guns that are rare is:
Harran pistol, and the American 9mm pistol

[cursive vector]

ohhhh

[blissful ridge]

Imagine AR water gun lol but its toxic

[cursive vector]

i forgot about those

[limpid rivet]

Anything else about guns or that's it

[cursive vector]

nah that's all

[limpid rivet]

Ok

[cursive vector]

thx for the help tho :D

[tall gate]

Hey everyone Is there anyone who be able to give me the venom sting knife and each of the 3 Halloween boosters a lot of them pls I can stuff to u too If u are able to message me privately and we can carry on from there thank u

[limpid rivet]

Your welcome
If you need anymore information about guns you can @ me

[tall gate]

Is there anyone that can

[paper harbor]

That's bridge was entertainment from start to finish even late end game

[limpid rivet]

Seems like your talking about the infamy bridge

[paper harbor]

I can't remember the name

[wanton junco]

Very true

[paper harbor]

Dl2 also needs a one life mode you die game over

[cursive vector]

no

[wanton junco]

Eh, permadeaths aren't my thing. I'm not fond of working hard to achieve things just to lose them all forever over a death

[limpid rivet]

It's still called the infamy bridge it can be mentioned in 2 side quests: voltage and hardware.

[paper harbor]

State of decay 2 is one of the best zombie games in my opinion

[cursive vector]

isn't it 3rd person? (no hate just wondering)

[paper harbor]

I have bad memory last time I played dl1 start to finish was 3 years ago

And I played it in the Polish language it has a different name in polish

[paper harbor]

Yes it is

But it's still really good

[cursive vector]

ahh okay

[limpid rivet]

And that would be "most hańby" from Google translate

Hopefully

[paper harbor]

I wonder if needing to eat and drink to survive would fit dl2

[paper harbor]

I know what bridge it is am just terrible with remembering names

I know had it looked and everything I just can't remember names

[limpid rivet]

And your talking about the long bridge that leads into old town and has 3 bombed places

This one

[exotic lark]

https://youtu.be/amPz4FCHrQ4

There's a new cutscene for prologue that replaces the howler with a volatile and virals

[paper harbor]

Yes

[exotic lark]

This is so sick

[paper harbor]

I used to love farming the end bit for meds

[limpid rivet]

Nice

[iron scarab]

Anybody got a pic of whats coming in the 2nd skin bundle? Couldnt find anything of it except ali mentioning it on youtube

That peacekeeper bundle

[limpid rivet]

I always killed zombies or climb the bridge

[hushed cave]

Only took them like a year

[limpid rivet]

2 years

It took them 2 years

[hushed cave]

The howlers were replaced later

[iron scarab]

Where 2nd skin bundleeee

[paper harbor]

Same

[exotic lark]

Worth it

[paper harbor]

I hope dlc2 will have car like in dl1 the following

Car it self was weeks of entertainment

[limpid rivet]

Hopefully

[paper harbor]

Yep I wounder if be the zombie would fit dl2

Probly not

[limpid rivet]

Same

[noble marsh]

Is the Tower Raid will be added permanently to game ?