💬︱dying-light-2

[burnt tusk]

With the identity crisis dl2 is having. I don't think they even know what their doing lol. Their just putting this to pad play time

[naive stream]

You read my mind dude, that's EXACTLY what I was on about

[exotic lark]

Jai quest was great, but when I suddenly saw the pop up „Agent: Jai” I just went

[copper crest]

if you have things better to do than spending time on the game then maybe stick to those things than waste your time sitting on a chair playing a game

[naive stream]

that's what I mean, to salvage the community's reputation and ease the pain of losing E3 content the game needs to be more physical to be less stale, therefore more alive, therfore excusing the pisspoor story and conflict mood over cheery green and blue to Half Life 2 levels of dark and gritty

[exotic lark]

Yeah, literally the initial argument, why should people that like the game stay when stuff like this happens?

[naive stream]

fuck it, keep grindy guns at Jai, keep those "boosters", just make the game feel more alive

[exotic lark]

FUCK BOOSTERS

[copper crest]

storytelling was never the strong suit of dl franchise. Even dl1's story and characters were shit. It was only remembered for zombie parkoure because theres no other zombie parkour in the market

[silver ridge]

Can you? I haven't noticed

[naive stream]

yup
6 mags ( 30 x 6 = 180) in DL1 for the assault rifle
DL2 is 8 mags ( 30 x 8 = 240 + 10 in reserve so = 250)

[burnt tusk]

They need a identity they had to settle with. If this game is mmo then go with mmo and improve the RPG element of this game . If this game is a zombie playground then don't put mandatory grind in the game so that you can unlock new toys or achieve higher damage. Don't go in the middle and then half ass everything and expect both sides to appreciate this when in the end both sides will just hates you for this. Them adding guns and then ended up making both anti gun side hating them for adding it and then gun supporter side to hate them for making it grindy af shows that they don't understand this concept

[silver ridge]

I think if you have free slot for ammo, it should be available for gun ammo

[naive stream]

i'd rather be the latter what you said
a zombie playground

[silver ridge]

Since the same is true for bolts and arrows of every kind

[naive stream]

I REALLY hope they add magazine feature into the game

not because I am a Milsim "Realism" Arma Insurgency Tarkov player
But because of it, it would be a drawback into using guns as you can't carry much ammunition? Something like that

[burnt tusk]

And I'd rather this game to have modern dark ages. But atp I'd rather them to stick with a single genre and go with it rather than trying to appeal all to sides, even if I disagree with their final decision

[silver ridge]

What feature

[naive stream]

you forgot guns have a container called magazine that is inserted into them to allow the gun to chamber a round? :P

with respect in case it soundsl ike I am calling you dumb which I am not

[burnt tusk]

I think they meant features similar to escape from tarkov

Where when you reload the magazine count will stay the same

[silver ridge]

Haven't played it so i don't get the reference

Oh ok

[naive stream]

no
it's not even a feature based off different games, it's just how guns work overall, the magazine ain't a fully part of the weapon, it's a container but that's for a different topic

[silver ridge]

So like mag realism

[naive stream]

yeah but dumbed down enough to be suitable for an non realism game

[burnt tusk]

Yeah but I need something to reference to and many of the game I know aren't as popular as escape from tarkov

[naive stream]

once again I don't want mags for guns in DL2 because of realism but challenge
because I feel like they would be a kind of a drawback

[naive stream]

fair, forget about it

[burnt tusk]

Tho in hindsight I probably should've said realistic reloading

[naive stream]

One thing that is so painful about DL2 is not about it's E3 content loss but the story
because... this game was focused on the story, in which the world ended and 99% of the humanity died out, perfect setting for the most deppresing game... and they lost where it was going... and then had moments of weak unstructured and rushed plot... and then it wasn't that great.
DL2 is a story focused game where the story is not great, and this heavily impacted DL2 in my opinion

[burnt tusk]

Either way I doubt techland would do that. The only reason their even adding this is for fanservice. If they wanted to make it special they would've came up with a creative idea when they added guns into the game

Of course, not saying this kind of feature isn't welcomed

[naive stream]

Atleast make it nightmare mode only

I mean like I said, this is a drawback to using guns

you would have to "craft" filled magazines with ammunition as resource

[burnt tusk]

Eh, it felt like they need to buff guns more than needing to nerf it rn. Or at least the damage and then nerf the bullets we can get

[naive stream]

the guns in Dl2 at the moment are fine as they are

they are acceptable (gameplay wise, NOT Jai grind)

[exotic lark]

Tbf, Jai quest introduced guns seamlessly in my opinion, if you just started playing the game and know nothing about the community, you’d think the gun quest was always there.

[burnt tusk]

As of rn it just feels like their trying to appeal to the side that wants to play run and gun in this game but also trying to appeal to the side disapproving firearms by making them peashooters

[exotic lark]

Sad that there are no makeshift guns tho

[burnt tusk]

It's just a pr stunt, as I expected

[naive stream]

pr stunt?

[burnt tusk]

They'll likely just add a skin for makeshift guns in the future when asked abt it

[naive stream]

yeah I see that 90% especially as DL2 is now an RPG...

[burnt tusk]

Something they do to reduce the backlash their expected when adding guns I assume

[naive stream]

moral or not

[exotic lark]

DL2 was going to be THE dark zombie RPG if development went smoothly

[burnt tusk]

Heck no. Remembered when they promised to allow us to buy individual items from bundles? Yeah I suspect that just isn't gonna come soon aswell

[burnt tusk]

It WAS. Gonna be my top tier goty sitting alongside Minecraft if they actually did modern dark ages well

[exotic lark]

I always expected it not to come, let’s not forget, this is a company, focused on profit.

Actually I didn’t always expect it not to come

But now I do never expect it not to come

[burnt tusk]

I used to believe it would

[exotic lark]

Same

[burnt tusk]

Now It's ....yeah

[exotic lark]

but it would’ve been too good

[burnt tusk]

"too good" my ass. It's the bare minimum they could do if they added dlp

[exotic lark]

Too good to be true I mean

[burnt tusk]

Fair I supposed

[exotic lark]

One part of your older argument that I must agree with is DL1 microtransactions didn’t feel as bad, because I was happy to give money to the developers

Since good game

I didn’t buy them because no money, but I would’ve if I had it lmao

[naive stream]

eh... like a video once said... game developers are not our friends
not saying that as in they don't update the game on our call like servants but just, connection

[burnt tusk]

It's at least comparatively less shitty since they did a fine job making a game

If they did just focus on fixing the game and then only did this in the last 2 years of game support it would've received less backlash

Or just feels less shitty in comparison

[naive stream]

Ah... don't mess with us DL2 fans
we hate the game

how about we talk about the good things about DL2 now

[naive stream]

I watched a video on the DL2 downfall and I watched a part where it says (around the apparently poorly translated article drama) that Techland is not a good workplace enviroment, that pretty much worried me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2N_CBCjF10&t=580s okay so yeah, DL2 flopped because of mismanagement

amazing...

[burnt tusk]

Development hell IS one of the cause of dl2's fuck up. So not that surprising

[naive stream]

STALKER escaped that fate I assume
but that's a different game for another topic (and I should stop mentioning shit that is barely related)

[naive stream]

I thought mismanagement caused that
but I took both as different things but they may be the same

[burnt tusk]

I do hear their CEO interfering the development of dl2 alot causing alot of their decisions being steered and interrupted . DK wether this caused dl2 to have it's identity crisis issue or not but just take it with a grain of salt

[copper crest]

dont trust anything you read in the internet

[exotic lark]

Tower Raid

[exotic lark]

Oh that's a very well known fact

at least during DL2's development the workplace was extremely chaotic

[copper crest]

said by everyone who is not a staff in techland?

[exotic lark]

https://www.thegamer.com/techland-report-bleeding-talent-autocratic-management-bad-feedback/

said by staff

[copper crest]

good

[exotic lark]

Hyped for Tower Raid

[naive stream]

only?

I am talking about ingame

[exotic lark]

Oh

well the game itself is pretty good

DL2 gameplay is great

[naive stream]

First of all other than guns being "realistically" or accurately animated to look like it's actually reloaded
The music is hands down better than the first game, and I love that it's more gory and more ways to kill things unarmed

Despite story being shit and flawed and cheery green and blue colour pallete it is still somewhat bleak, I love how it mentions a couple of things that concern humanity as a whole

first of all
there is no God claim

because of how much suffering happened
The world literally ended and some think God is testing them

I think Carl may be right at this point, there is no God in the DL Universe ;-;

[copper crest]

Religious fanatics in a dystopian world are always up to no good

[inland adder]

Nah, the latest update proved ||multiple universe theory|| so we just got the short end of the stick.

[copper crest]

as far as nostalgia is concerned, I think Tolga and Fatin are already enough

I'd rather have a dlc that doesnt rely on nostalgia sa its foundation

[naive stream]

no it's not about fanatics
it's religion itself that is being shown not real in DL universe

[silver ridge]

Does anyone know when tower raid's happening?

[vivid bridge]

Why won't they just do another road map

[burnt tusk]

They got no clue what to add lol

[signal shale]

because they know it will be delayed again

[signal shale]

in the upcoming months

june or july

[silver ridge]

first ever weapon i modified to over 1k dmg

i somehow always knew it was gonna be rose's axe

[lethal fiber]

on the other hand he dug up some old old stuff to say that here

You know, workplaces change right? and people in them, and work culture

[gilded saddle]

when i believe everything youtube tells me 🫡

[lethal fiber]

again, 2021, if you will judge the game we work on post release content for 2,5 years with new very talented devs via prism of narration that suits you then idk what to say Some people may have left, but this doesnt mean techlad wasn't filled with other very talented people from all across the industry who work on delivering all content we got for that time peroid

[naive stream]

With respect Pirek, it's rather a concern than complain
So yeah, I hope you're Good out there at Techland?

I am no gamedev, despite I understand and respect the fundamentals (Code, Engine, teamwork etc.) I could assume how hard it actually is

[silver ridge]

Hi flames

[naive stream]

So please don't take it offensively, last thing I want is to attack devs of a duology I used to really love

[naive stream]

I like how you called him Flames, Pirek is sweetified for Pyro-related stuff

I am Polish as well that's why I noticed

[naive stream]

Meh, I guess you have a point

[gilded saddle]

Raahhh

[silver ridge]

I just call him that cuz idk his real name

[naive stream]

Atleast it could have been worse for you all

[naive stream]

fair

[copper crest]

you shuld always doubt the internet ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silver ridge]

Also yea i used to be a pyromaniac lol

I stopped after i almost singed my face off with a fireball

[gilded saddle]

In a perfect world where people were actually good faith in what they said, topics like e3 could be discussed maturely

But everyday its the same loop

[naive stream]

Atleast I am not too "pressing" over it

[gilded saddle]

Surprised people dont get tired of bringing up e3 tbh

[naive stream]

Maybe because for them it was what it would make DL2 almost perfect

[gilded saddle]

And yet they know very little

[naive stream]

an almost perfect video game

[gilded saddle]

We know very little of what was even "finished" in game

[naive stream]

I think you're right

Thinking about it, it seems that Techland just overstretched themselves

so with Chris Avellone or not, DL2 would technically suffer the same fate as it was 2 years ago

would you say so?

[gilded saddle]

Yea thats been somewhat my take for a while

Chris was just the first pillar that got taken down

[naive stream]

So with Chris Avellone and his "ambitious" story telling, the acceptable minimum would be much higher, and because of that the game wouldn't be released at all, eventually the studio would burn out and can DL2 as a whole

[lethal fiber]

im what?

[naive stream]

You know how we poles add "-ek" to some words
like Chlebek, Kocurek etc.

[lethal fiber]

thats basically how my nickname came to be

used to be Piro like 10 years ago

[naive stream]

that's pretty much what I am saying

[lethal fiber]

idk if it's relatable to this e3 psycho craze here tho

[silver ridge]

Wait if your name's fire related shouldn't it be pyrek or something

Does sound more polish too lol

[lethal fiber]

A lot of games would show vertical slice as perfect as possible to sell the concept to players

and final game often is not 1:1 what trailer shows, some things change through trial and error more or less

[naive stream]

So the game being a perfect example of a mediocre game on the February 2022 release to a great game 2 years later due to updates was the most realistic best outcome and possible divine intervention at this point

[naive stream]

what the 2018 shown pretty much became the later story parts I see

[lethal fiber]

it's just feels like our communtiy takes those trailers to heart so much they have built own picture of what game is supposted to be in their minds

[silver ridge]

Yeah that's what i don't get, no retail game has ever reflected what it looked like e3

[lethal fiber]

that be true

[outer flower]

true but i dont know alot of games that had a whole artstyle change from e3 to release

[naive stream]

we assumed that it was all perfectly set then, a lot of gameplay elements have been "simpletonized" in the release that the E3 showcase shown to be more harsher and challenging

[silver ridge]

The closest it came to was maybe halo 2, and i heard they used a whole dif engine specifically for the trailer

[lethal fiber]

i work here for 1,5 year, still cant quite grasp why out of all games ours have people so laser focused on that content

[silver ridge]

But they did well to not make you realise much change

[naive stream]

wait not only DL2?

[outer flower]

im glad atleast that we dont have 2019 nights😭

[silver ridge]

Same's true for hl2 beta

[lethal fiber]

I feel like if those e3 stuff were in game, they would be also source of complaints either way, i think it's more of "things we never got" than "things we need"

[naive stream]

2019 nights?

[outer flower]

they were bright as shit

we have pics of 2019 nighttime

brighter than release retail

[silver ridge]

The only thing i would've prefered e3 over the base game was the rpg story elements

[naive stream]

now that reminds me of Half Life 2 as well, that community has a bit of a similar case as Dying Light 2 with the showcase E3 content except there is much more tamer

[outer flower]

for me its the artstyle

i prefer the dishonored/bioshockish artstyle more

[silver ridge]

I'm content with the artstyle

[naive stream]

I think that's what 99% of the E3 mourners didn't want without directly saying

[naive stream]

and the grit as well

[waxen palm]

🇪3️⃣

[lethal fiber]

jumpscare

[naive stream]

E3
Normal E and reversed E

[outer flower]

fun fact

[silver ridge]

The e in e3 stands for e-verrated

[naive stream]

Don't worry E3's got shutdown, there won't be another one again

[outer flower]

aiden was supposed to have smth called survivor armor and its basically what is nowadays our gear
and youd upgrade it fully at once, basically like a nightrunner tool, i think it even was meant to be one

[silver ridge]

Whatd it look like

[lethal fiber]

that part i am sad off, e3 was solid game showcase, now we only have the geoff Knightley ego pumping one

[outer flower]

his 2019 armor

[naive stream]

aha

[silver ridge]

Pic?

[hoary sedge]

Oh

[lethal fiber]

plot armor

[outer flower]

and techland wouldve probably made cosmetics tho

[outer flower]

wait

[gilded saddle]

Hyena...companion...please...

[silver ridge]

Pk reinforcement companions

[turbid grove]

to be completely fair, i don't think anyone anticipated cutting the story off DL1 after the following. I think people wanted another following of The Following. which is very understandable \

[silver ridge]

That'd be cool

[outer flower]

i cant find the document right now wait!!

[gilded saddle]

[silver ridge]

Ok just send when you do calm down

[gilded saddle]

[outer flower]

found it rahh!!!

[open tide]

yo guys are you able to camoflauge in dl2?

[gilded saddle]

Yes

[naive stream]

yeah, but that's an item and you only get it through Bloody Ties

[open tide]

what item

[gilded saddle]

BT sidequest

[outer flower]

e3/2019 had a couple german sidequest names

[gilded saddle]

The fartenlaffen

[open tide]

whaat item and which bt side quest is it

[silver ridge]

Still disappointed bloody ties didn't come with an endless mode

[gilded saddle]

Youtube cuz idk

[silver ridge]

Or waves

[turbid grove]

agreed

woulda loved that

[silver ridge]

First fighting biters, then virals, then increasingly harder infected

[gilded saddle]

They should have added me to the game

Put me on a statue

[turbid grove]

disagreed

[gilded saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-gif-26412022

[outer flower]

pvp wouldve been crazy

[turbid grove]

a pilgrim like me is waiting for the nighthunter to come to villedor

[silver ridge]

Id either get destroyed, or destroy lots of players

No inbetween

[gilded saddle]

I'd dominate

No question

[outer flower]

animals in dl2 wouldve been crazy

[gilded saddle]

Pet hyena....idc if its europe...

[silver ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/dennis-evil-stare-iasip-mad-angry-gif-10014582

[lethal fiber]

wdym, we hunting hyenas now?

[naive stream]

I have an idea which I will someday put into community suggestions for the developers to see, I just want to know what's your take on it.
What would very much improve DL2's rating/reputation is if the game became more physical, what I mean by this is make the game less floated by linear code, like special npc interaction (e.g. the couple where the guy gets stung by a bee), or the kick being not limited to a viewmodel but actually being seen as colliding with the body of who's you're kicking
#💬︱dying-light-2 message

Or when survivors are attacked by zombies, instead of the zombies just executing the same behaviour and animation, same for the survivor, if they are swarmed they could properly get on them and eat them alive, and also adding volatiles capability of tackling you whilst on paraglider if close enough, would be annoying but also a challenge.

Long story short just making the game feel more alive, my concern about this is it possibly sounds over ambitious and just a short fixer "nice if" rather than a true necessity a game needs for it's quality, especially with Tower Raid and DLC2 being in development, that's the last thing I am going to talk to you about since you already left the conversation and probably have something to importnat to do

[lethal fiber]

good thing firearms were added ight?

[gilded saddle]

NO just befriend them

[lethal fiber]

it's hunting season

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-hunting-on-the-hunt-elmer-fudd-looney-tunes-gif-4712571

[gilded saddle]

No it aint

[naive stream]

There were going to be dogs from what I remember, even enemies

[naive stream]

FUCK YEAH! HUNTING SEASON'S UP!

[silver ridge]

Pet demolishers would be cool

[lethal fiber]

i dont think devs have space to redo whole game to change the core feature like this

[outer flower]

og banshee.....

[silver ridge]

Since the church guy has one

[gilded saddle]

@lethal fiber is tymon/the team aware of the issues pertaining to the games general identity and how its seems like "modern dark ages" are slipping away?

[naive stream]

yeah, that's what I thought

[lethal fiber]

idk if it wouldnt require overall enginge changes, no clue

[silver ridge]

Anyone wanna vc btw? Im bored

[naive stream]

engine change... yeah that sounds like a lot of work then

[gilded saddle]

Gimme 10 mins

[lethal fiber]

but it have it's perks as well, with the emphasis on all parkour animations etc physcial would probably not work as eamlesly

[silver ridge]

Flames you wanted to call earlier but i kinda passed out all day

[naive stream]

would but I have to wash and revise for the latter GCSEs

[naive stream]

so overall too ambitious and too unecessary? So highly unlikely these features would be ever added

[silver ridge]

Good luck

[turbid grove]

very, brother

[naive stream]

thank you

[outer flower]

yea

[silver ridge]

Wow surprised the bot didn't reply to me

[outer flower]

wish half the city wasnt ai generated

[naive stream]

Good night

[mighty finch]

and good luck

[gilded saddle]

Abandoned me

[turbid grove]

probably the human and zombie ai interactions will get better

[outer flower]

pray cause ai is terrible

[silver ridge]

You wanted to vc at FIVE AM

[turbid grove]

feels like humans and zombies do the same attack over and over

[naive stream]

like I said before

[outer flower]

the chases arent chases theyre just enemies that spawn under you that see you and then lose you again in 5 seconds

[turbid grove]

when they start adding flying zombies my interest will be peaked

banshees with wings

[signal shale]

are we?

[silver ridge]

For the longest time i thought banshees didn't have feet

[signal shale]

what

[silver ridge]

Like just stilt things like those things from cry of fear

[gilded saddle]

:3

[signal shale]

i hate... them

[turbid grove]

so are we ever gonna get more animated lore short stories ?

the banshee one was cool

and that dude who jumped out a window to escape a volatile and his body appeared in game under that same window

[outer flower]

theyre so fucking cool

[outer flower]

me when golden ar in a dark ages game

when dark matter ar

[gilded saddle]

u clown on it but that sounds dope xD

[hushed cave]

any updates

[gilded saddle]

yea

[hushed cave]

what

[gilded saddle]

im bald

[hushed cave]

so are you still a furry

[gilded saddle]

yeah

im a shaved cat

[silver ridge]

Nah he's a baldy

Baldi basics

[outer flower]

no

if this was call of duty 4 and the game freshly came out then yes
if its about a game where the setting is modern dark ages then no

[silver ridge]

They should add this to dl2

[pastel scroll]

[signal shale]

is that chris griffin

[silver ridge]

Maybe

[exotic lark]

I wish the tools for city generation were used better, they're not bad tools.

They generate the generic buildings, roads, etc. based on what a person inputs, and then the best generation is picked and improved upon

[outer flower]

oh didnt know

[outer flower]

hm the map just sucks

[exotic lark]

2018 is a good example of a city generated with those tools looking good

[outer flower]

no schools no bank

no government shit nothing

[exotic lark]

True, because for some reason developers weren't asked to do that

There was a Villedor bank at some point

Fun fact, Villedor doesn't have street lights

You will not unsee it now

[outer flower]

wdym...

[exotic lark]

I mean sorry

how are they called, uhhhh

road lights

TRAFFIC LIGHTS

that's the word

Wait no it does

Wait nvm it does, someone told me it doesn't have them and I never checked

[outer flower]

😭

[fluid thunder]

You know what Villedor doesnt have? Tower Raid

[exotic lark]

SOON

™️

[exotic lark]

I wonder how E3 2020 looked

it was a really weird year

[outer flower]

wdym

[exotic lark]

like in general and for Dying Light 2

since it's the year where they had to rewrite the story

[outer flower]

oh yea

[signal shale]

good

[past rover]

What's the budget of the DLC2?

[exotic lark]

We don't know I think

[past rover]

Around 1 million

[exotic lark]

Where'd you get that

[past rover]

https://tenor.com/view/bru-gif-22732864

[pastel scroll]

around 4 krillion

[queen laurel]

The fix that annoying RUN toggle yet?

Still have hardcoded keybinds?

[naive stream]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-mods-and-staff-ily-gif-25934904

Xxx_Bloodedgecoolsourde69_xxX

[unkempt sapphire]

I wish to climb my grapple on keyboard v.v.

Unless that was patched out for controllers too

[outer flower]

i think its gone on both

[naive stream]

yeah, why tho

OP?

[outer flower]

buggy or some shit idk

prolly too op for techland in a singleplayer experience

[naive stream]

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-blah-balh-blah-balh-bla-bla-shut-up-bro-gif-25742861

Get blasted with water mf

[unkempt sapphire]

It was really jank and also let you get to some goofy spots when you used it with the grapple pull

So makes sense

Also really wish i could vault over sleeping zombies more consistently. You can vault over them but often you'll just stay perfectly still during the animation. Miss that one "leap over someone" hop from one of the trailers

Only parkour move from those trailers that aint in game now that we can do the knife banner slide

[lethal fiber]

Ed says hi

[signal shale]

Hi Ed

[silver ridge]

Jesus christ how big is that thing

[lethal fiber]

Tall guy

[signal shale]

how come there arent any female volatiles btw? :o

[lethal fiber]

I'm 180 and he is higher than me probably like 2 meters while hunched

[broken river]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[lethal fiber]

I mean they are androgynous in build

I guess you never know pure muscles

[silver ridge]

Volatiles are like 6 foot right

[signal shale]

hmmm fair enoughh

[past rover]

@lethal fiber

[silver ridge]

Yeah aren't they born from like mass body parts

[lethal fiber]

I don't even know

And I don't think if I did I could share stuff like this

[past rover]

join the dark side

reveal us the secrets

[lethal fiber]

But I like my job

[silver ridge]

I kinda wish dl2 brought back proper volatile hives, floor to ceiling flesh and viscera

In dl2 the gore is barely ankle deep

[signal shale]

do you know if techland is planning on improving the gore more...?

or parkour?

[desert cosmos]

She won't tell

[fallen dome]

Lads, Pirek is just the Middleperson between us and Techland. I doubt they tell her much

[whole sail]

Hi ed!!! 👋

[grizzled tartan]

i hope ww3 doesnt start before dlc2 releases i still wanna spend 4 smektillion dollars on dl2

[fallen dome]

Same

[grizzled tartan]

[naive stream]

Oh, Pirek is a woman? Didn't know

[naive stream]

It's not bad actually

in DL1 the heads just exploded like watermelons, here we see proper damage

to flesh

[naive stream]

https://tenor.com/view/arma-arma3-mattnmad-gif-21919732

[signal shale]

oh oki sry

[silver ridge]

Im talking about prop gore not from the actual enemies

[naive stream]

when I wanted to become a gamedev I considered getting employed at Techland

[signal shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1210861783724597328/1231754641788633208/2479ddae-4e03-4168-95b4-ea0790f599cc_1.gif

[harsh cloud]

Someone can give me some tips for waltz fight?

[outer falcon]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[bold monolith]

@lethal fiber forgive the ping, I’ve attempted to review all of your last responses for the last week or so. Is it appropriate to presume Techland is aware of the feedback with regards to how slow and/or grindy it feels to earn XP from Jai and all the weapons they sell?

[lethal fiber]

Yeah

We do monitor feedback on all stuff

[bold monolith]

I appreciate you indulging this ping. I have found it presently discouraging and effectively feel forced to commit to such a task.

[past rover]

"Do It for the vine" MFS in 2015:

[obtuse sierra]

Hi pirek

[dusky jungle]

It's dark during the day and light at night.
And there's nowhere for the light to go
For there's nothing in the lamps
Cool place

[naive stream]

why does it feel like a poem to me?

[hollow bay]

I first saw your message, then read it like one.

[modern pulsar]

looks dope

[naive stream]

"It's dark during the day and light at night.
And there's nowhere for the light to go
For there's nothing in the lamps
Cool place, I hath thought, for
such an anomalous yet rare
occurrence at such times
little did I know, it hath symbolized
the emotions of humanity." - Francis The Gun Nut

[hollow bay]

Bravo. 👏

[naive stream]

@dusky jungle thank you for the poem basis

[dusky jungle]

I always thought that zombies spawn randomly.
Well, like there are some rules, for example, out of 10-20 zombies should be 1-2 special zombies, 5 vyrolov and the rest of the weak.
I just found out that there's at least 10 times that I've been in 1st place.
Every time the same zombies spawned in the same place.
Even after a complete restart of the game and teleport to another location
Screenshots are made at different times
Until restarting the game, going to another location, sleeping, etc.
Every time the same zombies on the same spot

[dusky jungle]

I don't know, I just copied my posts from general-russian, threw it in the translator and posted it here

[naive stream]

Sloppy translation it seems
it seemed like a poem somehow

[dusky jungle]

[viscid rock]

i feel like being a silly goober in the summer

maybe i will re-do my ultimate nightmare run

to feature fists only and 0 everything

[errant crag]

man

night is just not fun

[sour python]

has the glitch been patched?

[errant crag]

dying light 1 I could still play at night but now I genuinely just gain no exp from night

every critter calls volies, all the encounters take a millennial to complete (except bolter), and the damage of said volies plus any ranged critter just means there is no point to try

and these are problems that did not exist in dl1, at least I could still play the game at night on nightmare and not feel like it's worse than cancer

[mystic wedge]

Except the homing volatile spit missiles that rarely ever missed no matter how hard you tried.

that was really cancer in dl1

[errant crag]

not really, the spit was more just annoying

because at least it was the only aimbot ranged bs

[mystic wedge]

That could kill you basically instantly if multiple did it in quick succession

Which def could happen

[errant crag]

but dl2? nah, spitters, volies, goons, and anything that has a ranged option WILL hit

[errant crag]

occasionally but usually if they could reach you they would try to climb to melee you

so at least you didn't have a guarantee that at least 3 will be spitting if you aren't already in another area code the second they spawn

like dl1 I hunt volies for fun on nightmare, dl2 even on easy it's just not worth the fight so I don't even feel like I gain anything from hunting them

[mystic wedge]

Spitters are only annoying at close range specifically because they reactively back away and spit AoE the ground. Goons are the easiest big boi variant to avoid hits with cause as long as you are on the side or behind them the stomp attack is literally a back dash dodge even if you react semi late. volatiles are not homing at all and rely on moderately accurate movement predictions which can be dodged even if they do it close in front of you with side dashes.

[errant crag]

lmao

bruh I have clips of volies sniping me from 200 meters while moving

[random mauve]

doesn't block projectile skill work on the spit too?

[mystic wedge]

Show clip

[errant crag]

spitters will do less at point blank, but the spitter alone isn't the problem

a spitter at night with a voly is a problem because either way you're target is spitting, and the other is charging or spitting

[mystic wedge]

Spitters are the only thing imo that is guaranteed DMG even then it's low DMG on highest difficulty

[unkempt sapphire]

Volatiles are a lot less tanky to melee in 2 compared to 1 and by like level 7 you should be getting weapons that can kill them quick.

Evading them is also easier with the increased parkour toolset and the sheer power of UV light in this one.

[modern pulsar]

spitters are annoying for their aoe and relatively high dmg but once, you'll get better literally nothing can hit outside of elemental goons(hate them for their size)

[errant crag]

are you comparing nightmare to nightmare?

[unkempt sapphire]

Even with elemental goons, you figure out that their element stomp is only a cone infront of them

Oh nightmare dl2? Yeah thats balanced for like, peak rarity weapons, max upgraded mods and a good chunk of survivor skills

[errant crag]

because dl1 volies take me seconds, dl2 volies take at least 2 minutes

[mystic wedge]

I mean with elemental goons if you take a elemental booster which is dirt cheap and easy to make their elemental DMG is nothing

[modern pulsar]

yeah but they have the same range as goons but not the size(model) so it can trick newbies

[unkempt sapphire]

Nightmare dl2 is like

The intentionally unfair mode for people who have almost 300+ hours like me

Or people who want to suffer

[errant crag]

yeah

[unkempt sapphire]

It removes hud elements that someone new literally needs to find out game mechanics

[errant crag]

And dl1 it was an actually challenging yet still fair enough that you can get good at nightmare

[unkempt sapphire]

Dl1 got piss easy after getting some gold weapons lmao volatiles were depthless and were either instakills or insta-gibbed and night had fuck-all to do

Nightmore mode in 1 felt pointless besides legendary grind

[mystic wedge]

Dl2's nightmare is good cause it limits the glider use, which you can still use reliably if you do the gas landing for quick energy Regen

At night

Fast landing*

[unkempt sapphire]

Dl2 gives you way more tools for every issue as well, you just have to use them all. Ranged weapons, parkour attacks and retreating, boosters, regen boosters+medkits

Juice a rage, get a decent exotic weapon, have a stash of military kits and you're gold

[errant crag]

400+ hours in one nightmare save of dl1 and it was fun the whole time, dl2 I don't even want to play nightmare because it's just not fun and feels like playing dark souls one with your hands being constantly dipped in lava

[unkempt sapphire]

"Dark souls"

Yeah this discussion is beyond my capability, sorry

[mystic wedge]

A better comparison would b project zombiod

[unkempt sapphire]

Like dark souls, attempt gitting gud

[errant crag]

dark souls is actually fun

[unkempt sapphire]

I am having a blast in dl2 nightmare

Its made the game like twice as fun

[errant crag]

good for you have fun with it

[mystic wedge]

Dl2 nightmare is made for try hards for try hards

Or ppl just good at the game in general

[unkempt sapphire]

Dl2 isnt a game you need to tryhard really

[modern pulsar]

dl2 nightmare is a good hard mode imo

[unkempt sapphire]

1 playthrough is enougj to be ready for it imo

[errant crag]

meanwhile I would like an actually playable nightmare

[unkempt sapphire]

(It actually has a lot of the same stats as hard mode while making you a little squishier)

It is playable

[errant crag]

I've done multiple playthroughs, and most of the time on the game in hard

[modern pulsar]

if they implement the community ideas then nightmare mode is going to be a blast and immersive as well

[unkempt sapphire]

Then you shouldnt be getting obliterated by random enemies at night

[errant crag]

and I genuinely would have more fun eating plastic water bottles than playing nightmare dl2

[unkempt sapphire]

Then stop

[mystic wedge]

Tbh I kinda would be okay if they removed the glider and just remade the game map to have convenient parkour routes for everything and less efficient and safer routes for less experienced players

[unkempt sapphire]

They kind of do tbh, especially if you're doing a survivor playthrough.

Like you can get most everywhere without it if you use all your tools and play a bit risky

Remember, all cars negate all fall damage

[modern pulsar]

glider is good in central villedor(not on nightmare but it can save the player sometimes)

[mystic wedge]

Kind of if you have the grappling hook

[errant crag]

or, give criticism and wish a game I liked had a difficulty of nightmare that was more akin to the first games

[mystic wedge]

But otherwise it would be a chore

[proper whale]

bruh what nightmare is piss easy

[unkempt sapphire]

Lmao

[dusky jungle]

Where you can quickly find?

[errant crag]

I don't even use the glider most the time lol

[unkempt sapphire]

Yeah i dont think your criticism is like, from a neutral perspective i think you're just another person here to bitch cause you died

[errant crag]

I grapple pull all across the map

[proper whale]

do u at least have a full skill tree and all inhibiters

[errant crag]

yes

[proper whale]

thats a fat skill issue then

[modern pulsar]

XDD

[errant crag]

I have reason to fight for techland bruh ☠️

[unkempt sapphire]

The glider is almost useless for everything besides short hops with nightmare at night and i honestly dont trust the grapple enough to rely on it

I just raw parkour

[errant crag]

Dl1 is my favorite game

[unkempt sapphire]

Dl2 is my favorite game

1-1 opinion clash, no resolution

[proper whale]

fight to death

whoever wins is correct

[teal schooner]

For some reason when I try selecting what arrows to use on pc with controller it’s not showing any of my arrows that I have In my inventory

[unkempt sapphire]

Give up or keep tilting at windmills or else you're just gonna get "skill issue" in return by more people

[teal schooner]

and I can’t select any arrows

[unkempt sapphire]

Cause its pretty fuggin possible for me.

[verbal copper]

Harper elite missions

[errant crag]

good for you, I just don't want to have to grind hundreds of military medkits for it to be playable

[unkempt sapphire]

But yeah its slower but you can get almost everywhere in central without grapple or glider by just knowing when to use tiktak, wallrun, and dash jumps

[proper whale]

like the only thing noticeable for me in nightmare mode is paraglider nerfed at night (S tier change + if grapple was nerfed at night that would be even better) and enemies hitting harder

but its easy to dodge them

[unkempt sapphire]

hundreds

Bruh i got like iunno maybe 3 at a time

Stop exaggerating the amount of grind it takes because you're frustraited

Take a step back from the keyboard

[proper whale]

i dont even use military medkits i just use the nerfed heal inhaler things and im fine

[unkempt sapphire]

^

[errant crag]

yeah the parkour is actually amazing, if you're good with certain tricks can climb anything

[unkempt sapphire]

Those plus like level 8 medkits will carry you

[random mauve]

weird physics moment ;~;

[unkempt sapphire]

And you can build up a chunk of max level stuff with the bounty board if you dont wanna loot a lotta virals

[errant crag]

That's good too, but I'm not running around all of vilidor to get maybe 4 poppies for them, because that's what I was doing earlier

[proper whale]

crouch jump is the most overpowered move they gotta nerf it, im flying around the city at mk1

[unkempt sapphire]

You can buy them from the witch and also you should be grabbing those wherever you see them, they're super common in central too

[proper whale]

i think i have like 250 poppies

[errant crag]

I never find them

[unkempt sapphire]

They're just on high roofs and next to stumps with bee nests

[errant crag]

they are not something I find, I only buy or craft them

[proper whale]

theyre at like every single roof grove thing with the beehives and the common weapon

[unkempt sapphire]

Cause you're probably looking for gardens when central heal item spots arent those

Also at mosts nightrunner hideouts too

[errant crag]

no, they factually are not

chamomile is

[proper whale]

ive never seen one without them

[dusky jungle]

thanks

[errant crag]

not poppy

[unkempt sapphire]

But most often you'll find them mid-elevation on stumps with beehives

[proper whale]

i think they nerfed it there used to be like 3 for every one bit ago

i think its gone down to 1-2

[unkempt sapphire]

I literally always have more poppy than hiney+chamomile

I dont even know where i get them

[proper whale]

facts

[unkempt sapphire]

They just show up

[errant crag]

Go to the subway at old vilidor, there's a roof grove not far the the west by northwest

[teal schooner]

How do you select what arrows to use for a bow on Xbox controller

[errant crag]

I was just there so I know it

[teal schooner]

Because it’s not showing my arrows

[unkempt sapphire]

So thats one

[errant crag]

there's more, just not gonna list them all ☠️

[modern pulsar]

when you hold the weapon wheel use said button to change the arrow type

[errant crag]

I don't feel like making a map of the worst roof groves

[modern pulsar]

I don't play on xbox but I can show a ss

[unkempt sapphire]

Idunno i find plenty, maybe you can buy them from craftsmasters or something

I got like a 99 stack of healing inhalers rn

[errant crag]

anyways I'm gonna go continue bashing my head into my desk while I keep looking for poppies for the next century

[unkempt sapphire]

And i dont grind for shit

Or just like not focus specifically on one goal and relax

Cause the game is specifically not built for grinding

I just run i dont have hyper specific goals

[modern pulsar]

not built for grinding(every chapter agent mogging you rn)

[errant crag]

I have to have a goal otherwise I only play for 5 minutes

[full dagger]

Hey. I wanna play with someone. Where I can find a friends?

[unkempt sapphire]

Yeah which is why they suck and they only did 2

[modern pulsar]

I don't mind grinding just make it more enjoyable

[unkempt sapphire]

Brainworms

[modern pulsar]

there's a reason why mmo's are widely played

[unkempt sapphire]

Yeah and those are brainworms too

[errant crag]

exactly

[unkempt sapphire]

Play warframe or somethin this is a singleplayer open world arpg with a decent endgame

Well you're obviously not having fun rn

[errant crag]

wtf does brain worms mean ☠️

[unkempt sapphire]

And think you need to go grind poppies to survive a night

[errant crag]

this game very much has multiplayer

[unkempt sapphire]

It means you have a sickness in the head, you have a brain virus, your thought process is compromised

[errant crag]

its not just solo

[unkempt sapphire]

Sorry co-op story campaign open world arpg

I dont play with others so i forget

[errant crag]

I mean technically that's correct lol

[teal schooner]

How do I get ballista arrows for the bow

[errant crag]

I am autistic so it fits XD

[gray widget]

what is the best way to farm the green trophys that drop from virals etc

[modern pulsar]

from the second chapter agent

[verbal copper]

Buy them from the Huntress or do her missions

[unkempt sapphire]

Yeah but no like real ableist shit about some actual condition you have, i just mean grinding games is an outlook sickness that ruins the fun in a lot of games

[gray widget]

this bow kinda suck tbh get her crossbow or sp one

[unkempt sapphire]

Mmos and their consequences have been a disaster for the industry

[teal schooner]

I have all of the exotics

I think

[gray widget]

ok

[modern pulsar]

It's greed what is a disaster for the industry imo

[errant crag]

yes, but the option to grind should be there, and should be fun

[teal schooner]

How do I get the hunters bolts

[gray widget]

u have to buy them

[modern pulsar]

there is a lot of decent indie games and a lot whom succumbed to be a moneyprinter

[verbal copper]

same way

[unkempt sapphire]

Greed is a disaster for everything but im talkin on a smaller scale, also this games grind isnt monotized

[modern pulsar]

it will be, or at least it has started

[errant crag]

yeah no it's pay to win lmao

[unkempt sapphire]

Those two things are inherently contradictory and they should have never added bounty grind.

But i have also stated you do not need to grind for nightmare, just take shit slow

[gray widget]

?

[modern pulsar]

camp at howlers

spawns virals with every howl or idk, scream

[unkempt sapphire]

Cant do some specific night objective? Go so something else and run around. Continue the story, do the dlc, do bounty boards, do survivor missions

[errant crag]

grinding can be fun, for example dl1 legend

[unkempt sapphire]

LMAO

[gray widget]

breh

[unkempt sapphire]

Im gonna ignore that

[modern pulsar]

not the fastest but you gotta do with what you can XDD

[silver ridge]

What i don't get about howlers is they attract virals just by looking at you they don't even need to howl

[gray widget]

what about buying them from jai?

[silver ridge]

They should fix that

[unkempt sapphire]

Dl1 legend grind outside of ng+ runs was the fastest way ive ever noy enjoyed one of my favorite games ever

[errant crag]

I got to like 180 within the month of legend being added to dl1 because it was genuinely a fun grind

[modern pulsar]

if you want to grind jai it's your choice

[gray widget]

alr

[unkempt sapphire]

Touch grass

[modern pulsar]

I'm sick after the 4th agent, I have not grinded jai out yet

[errant crag]

I do, often

[gray widget]

tbh i gonna grind jai to just get all guns

[unkempt sapphire]

You maxed dl1 legend points in a month thats not nearly enough grass eating

[gray widget]

idc about the gold ones or the set

[errant crag]

in fact I'm currently sitting outside my gamer

[errant crag]

not max, max is 255 if I remember right

[unkempt sapphire]

Ah right

180 is still obscene

[errant crag]

again my favorite game

[unkempt sapphire]

Put less hours into games

[errant crag]

so the grind didn't feel like a grind, felt more like building up to the outfits to look cool as hell or get even more stats

[unkempt sapphire]

Also your hyper fixated love for that game is probably blinding you to the potential upsides of this one
Very common for the tism criticisms

Cause everyone here has said dl2 nightmare isnt nearly that bad

[errant crag]

yeah my Xbox profile tells me I should

[unkempt sapphire]

And if everyone disagrees with you, its time to look inward

[errant crag]

or better yet, I could play dl1 and actually have fun

[unkempt sapphire]

...then do that

You're in the dying light 2 specific text channel bitching

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-not-care-juan-gif-22047769

[pastel scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-12-emoji12-cat-stare-stare-cat-uhh-gif-9567425571520721039

[unkempt sapphire]

Weve heard enough of it since launch

[errant crag]

do you think I care if you care lmao

[unkempt sapphire]

Lmao yeah its time to step back

Its reached the point

[errant crag]

I was not rambling to anyone originally, rambled to the wind

[unkempt sapphire]

Have fun malding i guess, doesnt seem fun. My lunch break is over.

[errant crag]

I will sure

[pastel scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/errrr-gif-11240337506111379364

[modern pulsar]

somebody throw in the e3 card so we will have more beef

[gray widget]

btw there is any news about the new dl2 dlc or still nothing

[silver ridge]

Please no

[errant crag]

eat lunch, have a nice day, and hope you continue to enjoy dl2

[modern pulsar]

I don't think there is

[gray widget]

damn

[errant crag]

nothing yet yeah

[gray widget]

btw wanna farm volatiles nest?

[modern pulsar]

Tower raid and dlc2 is more in focus from the interview tymon said

[silver ridge]

I hope tower raid has levels for lvl 300 players

[gray widget]

btw what is tower raid?

bc idk it gonna be like a raid on vnc tower?

where u clear each stage/level

[errant crag]

Going back to the vnc tower yeah

[gray widget]

oh

[silver ridge]

I wanna be able to get rid of my infected trophies and stuff

[errant crag]

sell them to gun guy for legend point

[modern pulsar]

co-op kind of mode stuff or something like that, more endgame stuff

[errant crag]

he buys them

[silver ridge]

Can't

[errant crag]

why not?

[modern pulsar]

because dl2 co-op is a bit empty rn

[empty monolith]

Can anyone be a legend and help me with some meds 🙏

[silver ridge]

Once you hit max lvl you can nolonger redeem them to craftmasters

[errant crag]

damn, then I'd say best to not loot them

[modern pulsar]

did you grind the legend levels out or just revenant before it was nerfed?

[silver ridge]

Just incase they add new legend levels i think it's alright to hold onto em

[errant crag]

money is so easy to get that you don't need corpse loot for money ever

[silver ridge]

Atleast they don't clutter my inventory at all

[gray widget]

ye and it suck tbh

in dl1 co op was better

[errant crag]

true yeah just an annoyingly high count

[errant crag]

yeah

[silver ridge]

I got 6mil from playing the game almost since launch

[errant crag]

dl1 co-op was by far the best co-op I've played

[errant crag]

I been playing since launch too so yeah lmao

[silver ridge]

I got the game near my birthday (month after launch)

[dusky jungle]

[pastel scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/aussiegg-dyinglight-dying-light2-gif-26588209

[dusky jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/dl2-dying-light-2-e3-2019-techland-gif-9205727697973038202

[modern pulsar]

yeah, but remember you have time slowing abilites so syncing stuff is probably someone's pain rn at techland, and if they fix up the animation it wouldn't be that bad

[gray widget]

ye

[gray widget]

idk why but e3 graphics are better for me than actual dl2

[fast wyvern]

i forgor

[errant crag]

I pre ordered since dl1 was the game that consumed my life for a long time, and since launch. I've had off and on again playing bouts for dl2 since my second playthrough

[gray widget]

?

[errant crag]

they do, because it's a special e3 release

[modern pulsar]

e3 always looks better than the retail game(watchdogs just as an example)

[errant crag]

All e3 releases look better than the full game

[errant crag]

exactly

[silver ridge]

Yea i played dl1 since i was like 12 (i'm 21 now)

[exotic lark]

Most people think that, but it's because E3 had better art direction

[errant crag]

E3 is literally just a big ad so it will always show the best possible thing the devs can pull together for it

[errant crag]

I got dl1 way too young lmao

[exotic lark]

True, though what they showcased on E3 is what they were working on

[errant crag]

I was 8 when I got it

[silver ridge]

Damn

I think dl1 released when i was 11

[errant crag]

4 years after I got scarred for life from dead island I played the next techland zombie game and fell in love lmao

[errant crag]

It was in 2015 if I remember right

[silver ridge]

I haven't played dead island tbh

[errant crag]

its good for when it came out

but the opening cutscene thing where you are in the dark hallway running from the first zombies and a zombie jump scares you in the stair well genuinely traumatized me so bad I didn't play for 10 years XD

[silver ridge]

Ok nvm i would've been 12

So i was 12-13

[errant crag]

then I played through it and honestly, it's a good game, just very slow feeling

[silver ridge]

I don't remember that stuff

Isn't the opening cutscene you get beat up by tahir and his thugs then bit by a viral?

It's funny how everytime i see that scene all i can think about is how they incorrectly used a biter model in place of a viral

Same happens for bloody ties

Biters are NOT that agile!!!!

[exotic lark]

Holy shit what kind of biters are those 💀

The biters are done with human bullshit

[modern pulsar]

want biters like those in the game

except the grabbing part that would be just annoying and they fixed it

[naive stream]

I fanboyed Dying Light when I was 10 years old

[mystic wedge]

I wonder why they cut that

[unkempt sapphire]

Wtf why yall so young jesus

[modern pulsar]

wym

[unkempt sapphire]

Dying light came out when i was like 17

[exotic lark]

I wish Dying Light 2 would do fog better

I think that's the key missing thing in completing the lighting update

Fog is a great way to make the distant horizons feel, well, distant

[modern pulsar]

and a better flashlight too

[exotic lark]

That too

[gilded saddle]

🛌

[modern pulsar]

the natural light looks so good and the flashlight is so ass

[exotic lark]

Different flashlight texture, smaller range and inertia

[gilded saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230026721332564009/1245095379096043581/e3.gif

[modern pulsar]

blasphemy

E3!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[exotic lark]

Yeen, can you point to the person talking about E3 right now, in this moment?

[gilded saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/littlebigplanet-sackboy-nodding-yes-shaking-gif-22649804

[modern pulsar]

dl2 really bad no e3

[exotic lark]

Anyways

so yeah, fog can do so much

and currently fog is pretty bad, on some weathers there is absolutely no fog, which looks bad.

I hope they tweak it in a future update 🤞

[exotic lark]

Just like with colors, its importance is heavily underestimated

[plain mesa]

Noticed that, fog used to be present in game a lot, especially during early mornings

[exotic lark]

Chance of foggy weather got heavily lowered

[plain mesa]

I wonder if it's intentional

[waxen palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444840057623412737/1232765153788039261/togif-1.gif

[pastel scroll]

are you using my gif?

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

[exotic lark]

Maybe

Wait actually yes

They've set change of foggy weather to 0 on almost all weathers

[exotic lark]

Both foggy and overcast weathers were removed from Reloaded Edition

[dusk crow]

Are Volatiles hard to kill?

[modern pulsar]

dl2 players when the game isn't identical to e3

[dusk crow]

What is the OUTSIDE!?

[modern pulsar]

get some health, toughness boosters,best dps weapon you have, set game to easy and farm

but they are mildly hard

[dusk crow]

Bro

I use Regeneration and on Nightmare

[astral vessel]

What ranged weapon is best against gre abv, and roughly amount/type of ammo needed???

[dusk crow]

Here's what I use to kill Volatiles on Nightmare:
1- A quick 1-hand high damage weapon (Knife)
2- Throwing knives, these would be VERY USEFUL when your stamina empties or if the Volatile is far away
3- Regeneration Boosters for continuous healing
4- A stationary UV Light source

Or I use a high damage bow and

[plain mesa]

bruh WHAT

How was this considered a good idea??????????

[gilded saddle]

runs fine for me

[exotic lark]

Idk

I can sort of get it, but damn

foggy was really cool

[compact hill]

E3 would've only solved the visual tone issues that the game has

I doubt it would've had better writing, better gameplay etc

True

In small snippets that we were shown

[exotic lark]

Many cut quests were dug out.

[compact hill]

Full blown gameplay loop is far different

On the rooftops?

That looked very scripted

[exotic lark]

That was indeed scripted

[zealous monolith]

For some reason my valuables disappeared when i died a few times trying to get a quest done near an inhibitor

Because i had almost 40 orange cores from the vendor chests and they're gone, and im mad

[modern pulsar]

the whole e3 seems like a scripted cutscene to me lmao

[exotic lark]

Not exactly, but many parts yes

[zealous monolith]

It's just lighting

Sounds like whining to me

I'm seriously tired of hearing criticisms of the game

[modern pulsar]

criticism is good

the constant whining of e3 is pointless

[exotic lark]

Why did the E3 talk even start now

[zealous monolith]

Not when someone is acting like a jerk about it

[exotic lark]

Development hell and mismanagement

[zealous monolith]

Just enjoy the game for what it has to offer instead of wishing they did things differently

[modern pulsar]

yeah I know but constructive criticsm is good, this is why the game got to this point and gets better

[zealous monolith]

Yeah but I'm talking about YouTubers who say things like "this update is pathetic"

Then stop complaining if you don't wanna play it

Early access my left cheek

Ok, and?

I don't care

Would've been better to say

I get it, the game needs fixes, badly

But complaining about the story and the parkour/combat is pointless

It's been done to death

[compact hill]

People who have paid for the Ultimate Edition have yet to receive their money's worth with DLC2 still not here almost 2 and a half years after release

DLC1 and DLC2 (Bloody Ties and whatever DLC2 is gonna be) alongside some additional content

[zealous monolith]

I have the normal edition that updated to reloaded edition

[dusky jungle]

https://mod.io/g/dying-light-2/m/desert-fury

[compact hill]

Though if you bought the Deluxe Edition for DLC1 well RIP everyone has Bloody Ties for free now lol

[dusky jungle]

This guy a legend.

[compact hill]

Bub is the GOAT

[modern pulsar]

and the vanilla lighting in the game looks pretty good the only thing which butchers it is the flashlight and it'll get fixed in time(note that the game is on full low settings)

[dusky jungle]

Yes

[modern pulsar]

yeah I got ripped, at least deluxe outfit supremacy

[zealous monolith]

Some areas are so dark I can't see anything

Rose's axe

[modern pulsar]

prime example

[zealous monolith]

That axe i fully upgraded does 921 damage, but i don't know how much it actually does because of the stat buffs

[modern pulsar]

whip out a calculator XD

[zealous monolith]

I'm talking about the percentages

[modern pulsar]

you can check the total dmg kinda, the legend level bonus gets calculated in it(the base ones)

[zealous monolith]

The only number I see for the damage is the giant one on the weapon itself

I really don't know how percentages calculate to the numbers

Like how much does it increase if it's 10%

Or 70%

[modern pulsar]

shows base dmg and the added dmg by the legend level(1 handed blunt, 2 handed blunt etc etc)

[modern pulsar]

base number * 1.10 or base number * 1.70, but idk in what order the percentages get added

[zealous monolith]

Im on xbox and i didn't see that

[desert cosmos]

press the left Stick

[tepid narwhal]

That's how it should be. The nights and dark zones need to be very dark. I personally use the gritty + dark filter. The only time of the day it does not work properly is dusk, and to some degree, this may also apply to dawn.

[desert cosmos]

@zealous monolith and you will see the advanced setting

[zealous monolith]

Do you mean open the weapons menu and then click left stick?

[desert cosmos]

yes

[zealous monolith]

Omg, I was clicking left stick on the inventory itself

Hold on Imma boot up the game

By the way that main menu music is S tier

[proud river]

BTZ in dl2 would be fire

[zealous monolith]

Oh god, you were right lemmi

[desert cosmos]

Are you getting it?

[zealous monolith]

Yep

[desert cosmos]

[zealous monolith]

My equipped rose's axe does 1,946 damage 💀

[inland adder]

Scorpio ranged mode doesn't get bonuses from legend skills or ranger gear.

[zealous monolith]

Wait, can the frying pan increase damage

[inland adder]

I think it counts for the joker legend skill.

[tepid narwhal]

Why do decapitating finishers not count as decapitations with regard to challenges?

[inland adder]

If you use manero gloves, it also sets enemies on fire.

Because gaym pogramming.

[zealous monolith]

I have 4 points in the joker skill

I don't see any change to the pan

[inland adder]

I don't think it shows.

[tepid narwhal]

Was this a reply to my question?

[inland adder]

16% of 37 is like, 6 damage?

[zealous monolith]

It still shows 37 damage

[inland adder]

So it either doesn't have an affect, or it doesn't update the damage unlike actual weapons.

[zealous monolith]

Oh well

All I wanted to do is find a way to have a frying pan that could easily take out enemies

But what I don't understand is why can't the frying pan be upgraded

[inland adder]

Yep, a finisher is a finisher, it doesn't count as a decapitation.

[random mauve]

it's a joke weapon lol
be kind of weird if they made it viable

[zealous monolith]

Fair

[inland adder]

It's good for setting off bombers.

[zealous monolith]

I remember seeing a video where this guy was throwing the frying pan at a specific enemy in an area that I can't mention because of spoilers, but that enemy was dropping crystals every hit

[inland adder]

It stuns most enemies and knocks them out of attack animations.

[zealous monolith]

I wonder if that was patched

[inland adder]

And with manero gloves, you can set enemies on fire.

[zealous monolith]

How does one get these gloves

[inland adder]

Which sets them up for the Scorpio's 40% damage buff.

[toxic garden]

What the Best weapon BP must I have?

Not Guns

[inland adder]

It's an easter egg item that I think they removed the way to get normally, you'll have to get someone with the recipe to make one for you.

[zealous monolith]

Oh

[toxic garden]

.

[tepid narwhal]

It's weird, but so be it.

[inland adder]

Yep, gaym pogramming

[zealous monolith]

I don't have the Internet to play multiplayer

[toxic garden]

What the Best weapon BP must I have?

[zealous monolith]

Oh no

[inland adder]

What weapon type?

[zealous monolith]

Im stuck in the wall

[inland adder]

Fast travel out

[toxic garden]

Handed weapon

[zealous monolith]

I was fighting a volatile and they suddenly vanished and it confused me, then i look around and see broken terrain

[inland adder]

1H? 2H? Blunt? Slash?

[desert cosmos]

imo

[zealous monolith]

I made it out of the wall

I fell through the map, used glider, then grappled the wall in the map

[inland adder]

Polearms are neat, but you run out of stamina in 3 swings.

And tank armor doesn't have melee stamina cost reduction anymore.

[random mauve]

my tank armor gives melee stamina cost reduction & Ranged stamina reduction

[inland adder]

Last I checked they removed it during the last armor change.

Maybe they added it back

[inland adder]

Yeah there it is.

They got rid of it a couple of updates back, I guess they added it back after it caused all armor to reset.

[past rover]

Why the hell you can't reload while running

[tender narwhal]

@still moat @dusk hollow has

[dusk hollow]

?

[still moat]

Does anyone have a weapon mod that can do 87k damage?

[tender narwhal]

@dusk hollow has

[dusk hollow]

?r2

[mighty finch]

2. Do not cheat, glitch or use exploits to gain an unfair advantage in Dying Light and Dying Light 2. Mods (except those made in purpose of cheating) are welcome on the server.

[tender narwhal]

bros farming ban

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1212803213615697920.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=skulldead

[still moat]

no bro

in no saber

[tender narwhal]

🆑🇹

[light basalt]

i want a new update

😦

[fallen dome]

[whole sail]

Does the Waltz outfit FPS look good? I might want to try Nightmare on my game plus

[fallen dome]

It's decent enough

[whole sail]

Hmm, the lvl boosting might come in handy too

[thin tendon]

why are volatiles grey in dl2

?

[whole sail]

By standards, the volatiles are the strongest and most advanced infected and also shown ||potential development in the following that they are capable of having logical thoughts|| , volatiles by extent can look "fleshy" in color but due to the mutation let tjem have more delicated skin

The less exposure lead to the grey color or maybe havent seen the wiki

[thin tendon]

k thx

[whole sail]

Oh forgot, the volatile are indeed the last stage of infection and they come from "cacoons" (volatile hive)

[signal shale]

not happening…

[whole sail]

But delicate skin doesnt mean weakness since like I mention, they're the strongest. So dont try poke them with a knife because you'll get turned into a BBQ

[thin tendon]

wait ever since the guns update came ive been noticing weird bugs

[still moat]

.

[signal shale]

for example?

[thin tendon]

like i try to take down zombies but they stay there standing

[thin tendon]

like from behind

[signal shale]

never had that

[thin tendon]

especially virals

[fluid thunder]

I have something like that, but only with the ones in armor standing doing nothing next to some cars

[thin tendon]

but my ones are virals sleeping

so it is a bug

[fluid thunder]

[thin tendon]

k

[dusk crow]

What is the best armour?

[fallen dome]

It's all RNG

Just try and find Lvl 9 Brawler Gear that has one or more of these stats: - Damage Received from Infected, - 1h Weapon Damage Bonus, - Stamina Reduction and/or Regeneration

They're generally best

[inland adder]

1H damage bonus is always there though.

Survivor sense boosts are even more useless in nightmare.

[dusk crow]

Those are so damn useless indeed

[dusk crow]

I'm doing the side quest of the TNF Armour, wonder if that's even good?

And damn the googles made me sick

[fallen dome]

Yeah, very disorienting

[fallen dome]

I never noticed any difference with or without that stat boost. Might as well not exist

[dusk crow]

I'm already ill, and this game is making me more ill

[fallen dome]

Maybe get up high, put them on and look for the Objectives, before swapping them out and going to those locations

[dusk crow]

Certainly that's what I did, bad part is that I did it later on

Wait, if I changed the skin of it would the vision change?

[fallen dome]

If there's any silver lining to the set, it gives you just under 2 hours of Immunity

[fallen dome]

No, the Vision is tied to the headpiece itself

If you changed your normal headpiece to look like the TNF set, you don't get that filter

So again, doubt it'd work the other way around

[dusk crow]

Really wish I could ping the one who made that feature and

Oh I forgot

[fallen dome]

No, do NOT DM Techland peeps

?R3

[mighty finch]

3. Do NOT DM Techland members other than Pirek or Ponto, and do not tag them unless they're actively talking in a channel.

[hybrid tundra]

what happened with dev weapons?? I got all mine removed dam

[fallen dome]

Elaborate

[hybrid tundra]

Like a few months ago I had dev weapons I think there called and now there just gone like the Korak charm where u can refill ur weapons dura

[fallen dome]

Probably a glitch cuz you can still get it

If you could craft it, it should've stayed

Only stuff that should've been patched are the Bicycle, Hoverboard and Broom, cuz they weren't intended for use outside their challenges

[inland adder]

The old Korek charm was replaced.

[fallen dome]

It should've only been updated, not disappeared

Pretty sure I still have mine

[unborn pier]

itty bitty

[fallen dome]

#dl2-spoilers: Thanks

[steel prawn]

So if I bought reloaded edition (I think over 2 weeks ago) on Xbox, and ultimate edition went on sale, does anyone know any way I could get a refund and buy the ultimate? Or is the upgrade not really worth the hassle

[unborn pier]

its surprising how well the parkour system works at such a small scale

AUUUGHHHHHH

[steel prawn]

I think the DLC2 is only going to be $10, so if that’s the only difference I’ll just eat the difference

[unborn pier]

now i look schizo

well, i mean i am, but

[unborn pier]

same

😋

[fallen dome]

@unborn pier, thx, you can still post it in #dl2-spoilers

[steel prawn]

Anyone know any methods to get a refund and get the ultimate, if it’s been over 2 weeks, or if it’s better to just take the L

[fallen dome]

Just wanted to keep things spoiler free in case some people haven't experienced the questline

[fallen dome]

You can buy the Ultimate Edition Upgrade

It's classed as a DLC but upgrades your version

[steel prawn]

That’s a $35 charge, upgrade is unfortunately not on sale, just ultimate edition

If the DLC2 is just $10 it’s whatever to me tbh

[soft crystal]

Well got a new graphics card but guess i gotta use warranty

[fallen dome]

Hmm, in that case you may be better off buying the DLC separately

[fallen dome]

Wow

Have you tried restarting the PC first?

[unborn pier]

they shoulda never updated the lighting brah wtf ...

[soft crystal]

Its random stutters in games as well. Discord also had it and you can see my youtube at the top image there

[steel prawn]

What’s the difference between reloaded and ultimate realistically?

I submitted the refund request so that would be wonderful if I got it

Would anyone happen to know if it’ll wipe my progress, or if the story data is kept on an online server and will be unaffected?

[fallen dome]

Reloaded is the Base Game + Bloody Ties DLC, Ultimate includes DLC 2, and the Legendary Bundle (Outfit, Paraglider, Axe and Machete), plus a free XP Booster

[fallen dome]

If you have Cloud Saves active, I believe it should carry over

[soft crystal]

Eh just gotta send in the card and either theyl fix it or send a new 1. Got it for like 100$ discount as well from the store. (Big chain so not scammed just bad luck) Sending it back to them tomorrow

[steel prawn]

Is it automatically turned on?

Or should I do it right now

[fallen dome]

I'm not sure, you'd have to check