💬︱dying-light-2

[gilded saddle]

No prob

[dawn violet]

what gear is best in game?

[bleak arrow]

Is the free gun just the harran pistol?

[swift gale]

How much damage does the harran pistol do?

[mystic plank]

What gamma do y’all recommend for nighttime?

or curious if that’s just personal choice, bcuz i for one can’t see anything at night if i have it low

if i wanna do nighttime roaming

[swift gale]

Just go to video settings and turn darker nights off and if it is change it to medium settings for gamma

[late widget]

Depends on play style.

[tough quest]

The new alteration is good

[late widget]

i use gritty+dark and ingame gamma calibration

[late widget]

yea its fun

[plain mesa]

I kinda gotta experiment with gamma, completely forgot about that

[hollow bay]

Just got done 100 percenting the game on steam

[plain mesa]

Congrats!

[outer falcon]

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[upbeat idol]

Why do my ideas never appear on the Outpost? I've submitted like 3 unique ideas in the past month and none of them appear on the website so i can't share them

[plain mesa]

This is actually interesting

[late widget]

Sounds fun

[compact ingot]

Dying light 2 so bad when are we getting guns

oh wait... what the fck am i gonna complain about now

[late widget]

I have never used one. so for me there is no difference game wise

[sweet wadi]

Guns are even more fun and actually viable if you have less stamina

They're still fun now

I'm genuinely surprised by how good the guns feel

[tall pulsar]

there's plenty of things to complain about, dw, you'll never run out of em

[iron elm]

They'd have to make the game actually difficult for this to be worth implementing, though.

[plain mesa]

Tbh I just am interested in the sewer looks, like in DL1, there were no zombies in some cases but you were still on you guard

[steady summit]

Hakon bikini outfit

That's what

[plain mesa]

Also, I actually like how the UV isn't blinding in dl1, I always thought that UV on DL2 is waaaaaay too colorful

[zealous monolith]

Ayo?

[green fable]

Is it just me or does Jai really seem to like the Highway Star mission? Almost of my dailies the past week have asked me to play Highway Star

[soft crystal]

i really want separate controlls for ranged and melee weapons. i want melee weapons to block on rightclick but ranged weapons to aim on rightclick

[soft crystal]

what actegory would ideas for new settings go under? gameplay or others

[gilded saddle]

prob gameplay if it affects that

[soft crystal]

gona suggest separate keybinds for guns and melee

[random mauve]

I just want to be able to reliably slide with guns instead of the game fighting to decide whether I ADS or crouch in place

[soft crystal]

It would be really nice if you could make so melee weapons for example blocks with rightclick while with ranged weapons like pistols you can aim with rightclick.

[pseudo mango]

bro i got a mod that lets you make gen 3 synths so now during my institute playthrough im legit replacing people

[gilded saddle]

what

[pseudo mango]

"what are you talking about? malcom latimer didnt die he just got back from a business trip"

[random mauve]

hes talking about FO4 in Dying Light 2 channel lol

[gilded saddle]

[random mauve]

People: DL2 points is a disgrace and a money hungry tactic
Bethesda a few years ago: we tried to monetize player-made mods with Creation Club

[soft crystal]

what you mean few years ago. they recently tried it again this year

or last year

[random mauve]

Idk I havent played a bethesda game in a while
I just am not a fan anymore will always poke fun @ them

[pseudo mango]

oh shit my guy

sry mate clicked on the wrong serverkeep em right next to eachother

my bad fellas

have a good day

[dark vessel]

xd

[wraith sundial]

Best way to level up fast? Have played dl2 in a while and I’m restarting on ps5. Just trying to skip levels to play through other stuff with friends

[pallid cloud]

does anyone know the best way to get more money in game? So far what I’ve been doing is just looting gre vaccine labs

[safe violet]

Spend $2

[lethal fiber]

were you just lurking in channel for past 4 hours to send your yearly message only to be that one?

[fallen dome]

I mean... you get a gun that's kinda cool

[south phoenix]

https://giphy.com/gifs/YUEk7jtaDYftsCToDI

[fallen dome]

I know, I'm reaching

[south phoenix]

yes.

[jolly jackal]

wait wtf what mod is this it looks so good

[south phoenix]

it's E3 Definitive mod!

[jolly jackal]

woah where can i find out more?!

[south phoenix]

We have our own public server!

[jolly jackal]

What the flip? That's insane

[fallen dome]

It's not been released yet, so we can not objectively determine whether it is the best mod ever or not

How?

[lethal fiber]

because they all make said mod

[south phoenix]

He makes our animations...

[lethal fiber]

so it sounds like just came here to brag about it 🙂

[fallen dome]

Yeah... just read your bio

You're Biased 😠

[safe violet]

Yes

[violet sky]

[south phoenix]

🤑

[lethal fiber]

idk if i should say touch grass or that i admire the presistance

[jolly jackal]

[prisma lynx]

whats grass?

[south phoenix]

Whats grass fr

[safe violet]

[fallen dome]

Alright, see ya in a year, Oni mguy

[fluid needle]

I think its that funny smelling smokable stuff.

[fallen dome]

Grass? What's that?

[south phoenix]

🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑

[prisma lynx]

oh really?

@jolly jackal can you stop dming about rp?

[fluid needle]

Yea im not sure though. Never seen grass before lol

[static prism]

guys i can't find anything in the profile tab
can someone help please?

[fallen dome]

You have to access Pilgrim Outpost via your Browser, like Chrome or whatever

https://pilgrimoutpost.techlandgg.com/dashboard

[static prism]

i know
i'm in dashboard

[fallen dome]

So what are you trying to do?

[gilded saddle]

ballin

[static prism]

should i go and claim something there?

[fallen dome]

I don't think there's anything you can claim there rn

You can spend those Tokens in the Armoury though but that's your choice

[fallen dome]

Scroll down

[static prism]

it says claim your registration reward in the profile

[wraith sundial]

Best way to level up fast? Have played dl2 in a while and I’m restarting on ps5. Just trying to skip levels to play through other stuff with friends

[static prism]

it's what the fist screenshot says

[fallen dome]

When equipping gear, some will give you boosts to Combat/Parkour XP

[fallen dome]

Yeah, I'm kinda lost here too... try going to your Account Log

https://pilgrimoutpost.techlandgg.com/dashboard/log

[static prism]

unfortunately there's nothing new here

[fallen dome]

You got it already, I think. The Stay Human gear set

[static prism]

i'd it since the start of the game

idk

[fallen dome]

Yeah, and I think it's a Pilgrim Outpost exclusive

[static prism]

btw thank you

[fallen dome]

Yeah, look

[fallen dome]

Np, any time my guy

[manic goblet]

it seems event increased my stamina/health levels by 1 - is that permanent? (its a good thing, just hope its permanent)

[tired jacinth]

They were all in the sun

[waxen palm]

They seem kinda immune to uv in this alteration

Even the uv flashlight doesn't seem to do something to them, at least at daytime

[brisk grail]

hello all! what's going on 😊

[tired jacinth]

are the graphics better than dl1 or dl2

let me rephrase

is the dl2 graphics better than dl1

[manic goblet]

loving the event. so after event is over we keep the harran pistol with unlimited ammo?

[tired jacinth]

prob not

unlimited ammo no

the pistol yes

I got a email from dying light team

[manic goblet]

kinda hope they leave unlimited ammo on 😄

[hushed cave]

depends

[tired jacinth]

can the dying light team leave the unlimited ammo for the harran pistol only

[mental sluice]

hello , hope everyone is doing well 💕💕💕💕

[vague thorn]

Asking for unlimited ammo forever is probably not gonna happen sorry to say.

I think it would be more likely that they could implement the alteration as an option when starting a game if anything

[manic goblet]

if i dont shoot with guns all those hordes will also spawn? trying to loot all that stuff after mass shooting 😄

[hollow bay]

Does anyone know if you can still obtain the Crane skin?

[desert cosmos]

https://pilgrimoutpost.techlandgg.com/goodies/outfit-collection/?lang=en

[outer falcon]

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[lunar bluff]

I have had this glitch since the community where introduced if there is anyway that anybody could help me it would be great.

[lunar bluff]

Idk why there is snow

[late beacon]

dude this is in dying light 2 or is it coming?

looks cool AF

[swift gale]

Do you only get the harran pistol if you didn’t have a pistol in the first place?

[outer falcon]

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[tepid narwhal]

Shoot them with your gun until you think it's time to loot. Then take out a bow or crossbow and kill the stragglers silently. This will give you a few moments to collect the loot.

[tepid narwhal]

You get it in any event unless you've claimed it earlier.

[random mauve]

christmas event item
unobtainable currently

[hollow bay]

how get coop

in dl2

[random mauve]

you need to finish the hospital mission after prologue to unlock co op
( after that you can have singleplayer,multiplayer options in online settings)

[hollow bay]

alr alr

[drowsy dirge]

how do you redeem the goodie packs for dl2 ultimate upgrade? I checked the site but didnt see how

[gilded saddle]

never seen that before

where did u find that?

[jolly jackal]

that weapon already exists

[late widget]

weapon art from Kamil Boruc Senior 3D Environment Artist Techland

[dark violet]

has anyone found a glitch for more ammo

sick of having to grind after using my 60 bullets

like 1000 bullets

[late widget]

no i'm not a cheater

?r2

[mighty finch]

2. Do not cheat, glitch or use exploits to gain an unfair advantage in Dying Light and Dying Light 2. Mods (except those made in purpose of cheating) are welcome on the server.

[dark violet]

ye but dl2 does not have pvp

so it's not really ruining fun for anyone?

[dark violet]

and techland have said mods are allowed

like other people i see with 1k ammo

[late widget]

not exploit/cheat mods

[dark violet]

ok fair enough i wasn't asking for a mod thou i was saying was there a glitch discovered/found and was wondering if it was patched

[late widget]

and then it is not allowed to talk about cheats/exploits here in the discord

[dark violet]

ok i did not know my bad won't do it again

[dark violet]

also how do you get the 1000 hours role?

[random mauve]

by picking it, you dont have to prove it.

[dark violet]

ok thanks

[swift gale]

Can anyone help with the lost armory quest?

[hollow bay]

coop?

i just got coop and wanna work through story quests

[graceful cypress]

i love that rooster costume

[lofty cape]

*chicken man

[graceful cypress]

my apolocheese

i will not disrespect chicken man again

[limpid timber]

Guns are at best "meh" weapons in DL2 so I don't get whats with the all guns hype

[drowsy dirge]

Who is in your pfp?

Just curious

[graceful cypress]

i enjoy using these hands

[lofty cape]

Me

[drowsy dirge]

Oh

[hollow bay]

Ikr, people begged for guns for 2 years and they ended up being so mid

[valid flicker]

Hey guys is there like a set day when dying light 2 gets an update. Or is it whenever?

[gilded saddle]

when its ready

[dusky jungle]

Updates are usually released every 2 months

[dark violet]

idk i like the shotgun

[paper lodge]

Hey people, I just started the game a few minutes ago. I'm doing one of the first secondary quests where someone got accused of selling poisoned water. So I go to the water supplier, he asks me to kill the infected below, but after that I'm unable to secure the area because there are infected outside, aggroed for some reason. I leave the building to fight them, but they keep coming. Is that a bug?

[hollow bay]

nah keep killing

[paper lodge]

they don't stop coming... I'm just finished the tutorial. I don't have the level to fight 4 enemies at the same time indefintely

[kindred python]

Yeah keep killin

[paper lodge]

sounds like a bug. I shouldn't even be aggroing enemies outside the building

[dark violet]

oh it's because of the viral event

is it virals or biters?

[paper lodge]

idk, the fast ones

[dark violet]

ye it's cus of the event

[paper lodge]

can I disable the event?

[dark violet]

yes return to main menu and click continue without event

[exotic halo]

just open settings and turn off "participation in events" parameter

[swift gale]

Yes

[hollow bay]

vc ?

@swift gale

[paper lodge]

that worked, thanks ppl

[nocturne obsidian]

holy shit this is so fucking terrible 😭

[gilded saddle]

then just dont buy

https://tenor.com/view/birmingham-danny-g-average-british-citizen-british-uk-gif-5883114680171836106

[nocturne obsidian]

im not but how is this even a fair deal

[gilded saddle]

its 2 bucks

[nocturne obsidian]

5000 coins is nothing 10 medkits is nothing

[gilded saddle]

5 grillion

[nocturne obsidian]

its 5 bucks normally

dl2 bundles fucking suck but this is a new low

500 coins nets you skin bundles like teh santa one

with an outfit and gear set + paraglider and weapon

yet they think "yeah lets put a gun in the shop and inflate the price by adding worthless shit"

[gilded saddle]

so isnt that better?

its 200 dl points

[nocturne obsidian]

how are you not seeing the problem with this

[gilded saddle]

im moreso neutral on the matter

lore wise it can be seen as it being ruined

[nocturne obsidian]

the only benefit to this is if you just want a gun at the start of the game

the gun itself is a lazy port of the dl1 model

5k coins is less than you get in one dark zone

[glass vigil]

ITS DANNYG

[nocturne obsidian]

and millitary medkits are easy to grind for

and they think this bundle should even be paid for

[glass vigil]

So a 1911 for 200 dl points

[nocturne obsidian]

the american pistol shouldve been a quest reward for going down the route where you see it

[nocturne obsidian]

its on sale its 500 normally 💀

[glass vigil]

Well a 2011 since the magazine capacity on it is crazy

14 rounds on dl1 XD

[glass vigil]

JUST FOR A 1911

[nocturne obsidian]

ya you can get the retrowave gun for cheaper

[glass vigil]

If it was a fn five seven id get it

That shit is so expensive its cheaper to get mugged XD

[nocturne obsidian]

like it should've been something you can claim on techlandgg for free

they literally gave out the ultimate editions crafting parts pack as a part of the free weekend gift pack on there i think along with an axe

[glass vigil]

Also idk why studios think a 1911 can hold 14 to 15 rounds tbh

1911 are single stack magazines

[nocturne obsidian]

ion know anything about guns just hate the way techland is getting guns in our hands in dl2

[glass vigil]

You need a double stack

[late widget]

a cup of coffee is more expensive than gun dlc

[glass vigil]

Single stack is where the bullets are on top of each other in the magazine

Double is where the bullets are more of a zig zag patterm

Double stacks can hold double the amount for the cost of it being slightly wider

Well more than double

[nocturne obsidian]

only way to get most of the guns in dl2 is through the lost armory quest which is fine, but the grinding after sucks, the only other gun you can "earn" is the harran pistol thats an event exclusive, and the only other guns are in the shop and arent worth it

[glass vigil]

A 1911 can hold 7 rounds a g17 can hold 17 to 19

[nocturne obsidian]

i get it now that makes sense

ya now that makes sense why the glocks more popular

[glass vigil]

High mag count, reliable, durable

But i think the american 9mm in dl2 is a 2011 with a 1911 skin

[nocturne obsidian]

im willing to bet its the exact same as the harran pistol with a different model

[gilded saddle]

the one and only

[nocturne obsidian]

so 15

[glass vigil]

No the harran pistol is german 9mm

[nocturne obsidian]

ya im saying they probably just put a different model over the harran pistol

[glass vigil]

Probably

[glass vigil]

I woke up in a steamy moo yeah

CAUSE I LIVE IN A SHITHOLE XD

[gilded saddle]

VILLEDOR

[glass vigil]

Tbh from how braindead the survivors act its more of a shithole XD

[nocturne obsidian]

danny g should be the mc instead of aiden

[glass vigil]

Just gotta let natural selection take course

[glass vigil]

YES

[nocturne obsidian]

i'd rather play as an angry xbox guy than a bowl of bitch

[glass vigil]

Angry guy from birmingham

[nocturne obsidian]

ik him from the xbox message

[glass vigil]

COME DOWN THE SMETHWICK BERMINGHAM AND ILL BREAK YOUR FUCKING LEGS XD

[rocky gyro]

.

[glass vigil]

We talking abt dannyg in dl2

https://tenor.com/view/birmingham-danny-g-average-british-citizen-british-uk-gif-5883114680171836106

The angry xbox man

[rocky gyro]

I am listening

[nocturne obsidian]

tf even is this event oh my fucking god

why is it only the pistol with unlimited ammo 😭

[glass vigil]

Virals and virals

[nocturne obsidian]

i want unlimited shotgun ammo and just mow fuckers down

[glass vigil]

Gotta get them headshots

[rocky gyro]

When will Dlc2 come?

[nocturne obsidian]

never

[glass vigil]

No unlimited rifle ammo

[nocturne obsidian]

just pistol ammo 😔

[glass vigil]

A automatic mowing down infected is chefs kiss

[glass vigil]

[rocky gyro]

When will Dlc2 come????

[glass vigil]

When it comes

[nocturne obsidian]

i hate alterations it just feels like they're too lazy to make actual events so they give us stuff thats barely worth playing

[glass vigil]

Plus is that it would help with getting infected trophies

[rocky gyro]

🤷‍♂️

[nocturne obsidian]

i miss events 😔

last good one was the christmas one

[glass vigil]

Yeah its when it comes we dont have a release date

[rocky gyro]

Oo thx

[glass vigil]

Expect it to be possibly be winter but dont quote me on this

[nocturne obsidian]

but at least we got a free bundle and the scorpio with the last 2

[glass vigil]

I think the scorpio, dark machete and acolyte outfit is the only time i grinded the events

[late widget]

this event is good

[rocky gyro]

Bestgamerali xd

[nocturne obsidian]

i want fireworks in dl2 like dl1 they were cool

[silver ridge]

'Bout fucking time

[nocturne obsidian]

actually cool 4th of july event 😃

[loud crown]

are any dl2 guns good?

[glass vigil]

Yes

Tho i did add a mod so i can have aim be the same keybind as block

Cause using control to aim just doesnt feel right

[soft crystal]

Please send me a link

I need this

[glass vigil]

You can find it on nexusmods

Tho i warn it can break keybinds

Hasnt for me but it has for others

[silver ridge]

If they let us swap it to hold to aim rather than toggle itd be good

Toggle to aim is the worst

[last kiln]

i kinda miss dark and griddy dying light 2. 😣

[glass vigil]

It is

[glass vigil]

It isnt toggle for me

[silver ridge]

Im on console

[glass vigil]

Ah

[proud river]

why does UV flashlight not work on virals?

[silver ridge]

i feel like it's intentional but also could be so many virals on screen that they just don't detect it

[proud river]

its like only one for me

[late widget]

i have no issue with that

[silver ridge]

all my exotics from grinding abberations

[hollow bay]

what are u gon do with em

[orchid hawk]

Quick question did the devs add a noctural knife ?

[copper crest]

not that i know of

[lament dune]

no

[orchid hawk]

Okay ty guys

[hollow bay]

Any good rolls yet? I haven’t gotten what I’ve wanted from my grinding yet

[jaunty tree]

how to get red weapons?

[lament dune]

exotics you have a chance to get the from creates that the renagades guard (orange color obj), special infected events at night like demolishers, Goons Etc and a chance to get them from abberations

[nocturne obsidian]

we need replayable bandit camps

idk why we dont got them already wth !!!!!!

human combat is so neglected in exchange for more infected stuff ☹️

[pallid cloud]

what are some ways to get nocturnal weapons besides going to Harper, or is it not possible. It’s the only method I know 💀

[limpid timber]

Nocturnal weapons u can get from Night golden encounters, Volatiles, Hives and Tyrants

[urban verge]

why are volatiles so strong that throwing aiden does nothing unless you have max kicking that makes it shoved back

[hollow bay]

Do you guys feel like nocturnal weapons actually help you kill volatiles faster because I noticed no difference

[pallid cloud]

I only want nocturnal weapons because they glow 🫥

[pallid cloud]

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it

[limpid timber]

well IT depends on the affixes roll there are pretty good ones. 4 instance have some of them with huge bonus dmg % with healing effect on dmg dealt. Also having UV bars while using Nocturnal weapons is a must

[silver ridge]

Only one, the one on my inventory has +9% stamina on quick attack

Anyone else never sell valuables cuz they don't feel like having the "new item in inventory" ping whenever they pick something up

[hollow bay]

I have like 2.5 million money but I sell valuables as a little bit of income to cover my weapons repair costs

[silver ridge]

I got 6 mil money

[hollow bay]

Good lord. You must sell everything

[sweet wadi]

i wonder if aiden is canonically a millionaire

[hollow bay]

Nah pilgrims are broke af

Aiden probably is a little more wealthy after leaving villedor since there’s so much work to be had there during the game though but not rich by any means

[pallid cloud]

what’s your method on getting money?

[silver ridge]

Playing the game since it came out

[pallid cloud]

Oh that explains

[copper crest]

just keep killing volatiles, they drop very expensive valuables

[sweet wadi]

i hate when your water tastes like mucus

[silver ridge]

Before gear scrapping existed i just sold everything that wasn't the best

[hollow bay]

I wish I’d kept my tank gear pieces since I’m mixing tank gloves with brawler gear for extra armor now lol

[hot sand]

anyone wanna play? been solo on this game for a week looking for friends

[hollow bay]

What are you playing on?

[hot sand]

pc

[hollow bay]

[urban verge]

i love how aiden hits 2 to go tot the roof

[finite lance]

Is rtx really worth it in this game? Global immulation seems like it’s the only setting that changes a lot

[shy echo]

Hey yo, can we be friends and play dying light Together?

[fossil shale]

aww so cute

[dapper hatch]

So is blood ties a story dlc?

Or just an arena?

[hollow bay]

Both

Has a story and side quests but the main content is arena mode

Only thing you won’t find much in the way of is exploration. You can explore all of carnage hall in about 20 mins if that

[glossy perch]

The flashlight getting weaker and flickering on nightmare difficulty is literally a "dying light"

Why did it take me so long to realize this

[green fable]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-pointing-ah-ah-he-said-it-gif-24183120

[copper crest]

wait, but if you turn it on again and it dies on you the 2nd time, isnt that dying light 2?! omg! 😱

[swift gale]

💀

[graceful cypress]

holy shit

dying lightn2 isreal,,,,

[swift gale]

How do you get your name to have a color?

Like biter or something

[graceful cypress]

activity

[swift gale]

What do you mean

[graceful cypress]

messages give xp towards a level

[swift gale]

Oh

[graceful cypress]

the colored roles are level milestones

[swift gale]

Ok

Thanks

[graceful cypress]

np 🤝

[iron elm]

No, it isn't.

The only difference, like you said, is mainly GI, but even that isn't so major that I'd sacrifice those 40 or so frames it tanks. First screenshot is RT GI off, second screenshot is RT GI on

[swift gale]

[thin gale]

im literally soft locked in the broadcast mission

there's like 5 vitals through the walls and I can't talk to leon

[iron elm]

Reload a checkpoint.

[swift gale]

In dying light 1?

[iron elm]

No, there is a "Broadcast" mission in the second game.

[swift gale]

Ok

[thin gale]

alr gimme a moment

[swift gale]

Xbox or PlayStation?

[thin gale]

ps

[swift gale]

I like Xbox personally

[thin gale]

i had a xbox 360 but I accidentally hooked my shirt on that tray where you put the disc in

[swift gale]

[jaunty tree]

what is a bberations?

[desert cosmos]

This one on the map

[swift gale]

Does it help you buy guns from jai?

[desert cosmos]

Imo, No. But it's up to you.

[thin gale]

js realized there's a vent you can go through

dang I'm blind

[toxic wagon]

i farm that one for pilgrim crates

but keep the infinity zombies in the game 🙏 its so fun

[iron scarab]

Hi.. can anybody tell me whats meant with special attacks for the bounty in the pilgrim outpost?

Do damage to 30 infected by performing special attacks

[desert cosmos]

Dropkick, ground pound works fine.

[light basalt]

broo

theres 30000 people playing dl1 rightnow

[late widget]

sale on steam

[light basalt]

oh ok

[late widget]

85% discount

[light basalt]

nice

i have every dlc on it but its cool for others

[iron scarab]

Nope, they weren't working. Only thing working for the bounty is when u jump on top of an infected and perform a head kick with e

[late widget]

dropkick counted for me

[silver quarry]

why tf do we lose stamina extremely fast while gliding now?

[iron elm]

Nightmare mode mate.

[silver quarry]

It just doesn’t make sense to me but okay.

[iron elm]

It's called "increasing the difficulty" according to the devs.

[hushed cave]

pistol too op

[silver quarry]

Increasing the difficulty is also getting rid of every form of UI except pause menu, inv, and your weapon wheel?

[iron elm]

Yeah

[silver quarry]

you can’t even see your goddamn immunity

[iron elm]

Nothing is holding your hand on Nightmare.

[hollow bay]

They’re adding a way to check your biomarker soon

[iron elm]

If you don't like it, lower the difficulty. 🤷

[hollow bay]

Until then opening menu and looking at the top will show immunity amount

[late widget]

I listen to the sound when it gets low

[silver quarry]

HOLY SHIT

[random mauve]

you can reenable most of your hud in nightmare

[silver quarry]

the recognition arc is even disabled

It helps with stealth but i guess they just don’t like it?

[random mauve]

you can re-enable weapon wheel
you just cant rely on survivor sense & see immunity bar

[hushed cave]

its called nightmare for a reason

[random mauve]

and healthbars but game looks better without em

[late widget]

A lot of people don't understand that

[iron elm]

Can't. Only a few things.

[limpid timber]

only thing that I have an issue with (sometimes ) in Nightmare mode is that transition from L4 to L5 chase

[copper crest]

if youre already high lv enough, youre more likely to die outside from enemies than going outside and totally running out of immunity

[iron elm]

Not to mention you can just spam UV bars that restore your immunity.

[copper crest]

ye and theres almost always a uv source from mini safezones in the corners

[random mauve]

you can enable most of the things that matters to your core survival like your own health bar/stamina bar, the top compass/radar and weapon wheel which is pretty much all you need. and nightmare has presets for immersive/rpg or w.e

[copper crest]

i even find it hard burning through 15 mins of immunity at night

[iron elm]

Even 9 mins is too much imho

If they wanted to make it really annoying/hard, they could've just given you a minute or two.

[copper crest]

yup

thats why its very common for endgame players to have stacks of 99 uv immunity boosters just gathering dust because at that point, its almost useless already because of gow long the timer is

[iron elm]

I didn't even use imm. boosters. Just throw a UV flashlight on the ground and you're set.

[limpid timber]

u can always go Nightmare with a Nocturnal weapon🤪 . Still UV Bars. Having a good stack of UV bars solves immunity time issues

[iron elm]

Noct weapons don't do jackshit. The bonuses don't even apply I feel like.

[late widget]

All of that I have disabled before nightmare, it looks so arcadey to have it visible to me

[random mauve]

It's all preference.
I like being able to see my own stats but not the stats of others and the fact that you can personalize it to a degree is welcomed.

[limpid timber]

negs apply 4 sure like immunity drain per hit & such although healing effect per dmg dealt apply as well (tested that b4 i maxed my LL)

[iron elm]

It doesn't do anything for me.

I can still kill Volatiles faster with a standard weapon, compared to a noct one

[hollow bay]

I am 90% certain that damage bonuses are applied from the unmodded and ungraded damage of the weapon. So 20% extra damage to infected is 20% of 500ish base damage

[valid flicker]

Hello furrrrreinds

[hollow bay]

Not the 1500+ damage after all bonuses applied from gear and legend level so the extra 100 damage from the stat roll is now chicken feed

[hollow bay]

Greetings!

[limpid timber]

dmg bonuses affect only base dmg

[iron elm]

Which shouldn't be the case.

[hollow bay]

Thanks for the confirmation

[iron elm]

The % bonuses should be applied after, not before.

[hollow bay]

I agree. Grinding for a god roll is pointless

At least armor stats matter though

[iron elm]

They sure do. 180% dmg res. with tough. booster is something else. 😂

[naive stream]

Worth buying the american 9mil?

Seems like I won't atm because my steam funds are pending

[iron elm]

Definitely not.

Don't support them with these in-game packs they put in the game.

[random mauve]

it's not as good as the guns you get from Jai

[hollow bay]

10 military medkits and 5000 money is so little as well. Even for a new character

[random mauve]

didnt they put the harran pistol in the stash for this event for people who didnt have a gun anyway?

[hollow bay]

They did

[limpid timber]

Jay standings and Tokens are pretty easy to farm so golden guns are easy to get. Besides guns in DL2 are "meh" weapons at best

[random mauve]

literally only buy it if you think it looks cool lmfao

[late widget]

That's how I've always understood it. % on base damage. and that's how it should be. would be too OP otherwise.

[naive stream]

the accurate animations excuse it for me

you say DL1 guns were better?
Maybe, but unlike DL1 the hitboxes actually function this time

instead of missing the second shot because of an animation

full auto a viral in DL1 and you'll see what I mean

[random mauve]

Guns in the second game were an after-thought reinforced by the community

[naive stream]

in my opinion, the guns in DL2 are good enough

[naive stream]

to me the reinforcing of gameplay elements over somehow making bows and crossbows obselete is too late, I understand if you disagree
because DL2 just turned into an RPG anyway

I see why people are outraged the game didn't turn out the E3 way
it seemed less arcady, and from a great game it could have been an AMAZING game

[hollow bay]

I don't know the right word but everything in E3 seemed organic

[naive stream]

exactly

[limpid timber]

pretty sure that if u made Volkan assault rifle from advanced police rifle (there were certain ones with crazy dmg) u wont need any other gun in DL1. Volkan assault rifle was silenced and made bows and crossbows obsolete

[random mauve]

gameplay is kind of jarring when you can whip out a gun in a world where no one else in the game doesnt have anything comparable ( human enemies)
I guess because it's an RPG their Dmg can be scaled to be balanced for gameplay.
but I'm indifferent towards the firearms in gameplay until I have a viable reason to use them or they feel less shitty for movement based combat

[naive stream]

I don't know if it was right for them to fire Avellone, especially since he got proven not guilty
I would excuse them if the reason was safety

but really the game got a painful blow because a lot of things that deviated from DL1 were because of story reasons

[copper crest]

companies shouldnt be quick to fire someone over allegations until proven guilty

[naive stream]

but now none of this shit matters as the story is not very developed

[random mauve]

Guns and Ranged combat would be cooler if human enemies had variants of ranged weapons. Crossbow renegades putting ranged pressure + while you get flanked/shoved.
We need cool human boss enemies

[naive stream]

I just hope it was safety so I can excuse them

otherwise I would just be... speechless

[copper crest]

tho i rly wouldnt bank on e3 being better because most e3 showcases are pre-rendered stuff from a mostly unfinished game. The devs are just trying to show you eyecandy even tho the eye candy you arent seeing arent official. Basically its all fake.

[limpid timber]

well we have BOW renegades so i don't c what would be that much of a difference

[iron elm]

And now, thanks to this, it's too useless. 🤷

[random mauve]

yeah i bet you wouldnt lol

[limpid timber]

that was pretty "deep" answer. It shows u gave some thought

[random mauve]

I thought about explaning and it realized it would be wasted just gonna put it in pilgrim outpost ideas

[hollow bay]

Not only e3 but the trailers, Aiden seemed so Batman esque in those trailers.

[iron elm]

Finally someone who sees the E3 bullshit for what it truly is.

[hollow bay]

Again the product we got isn't really bad except the story and I have faith in techland. Let's see

[copper crest]

idk why but there are still innocent gamers out there who keep falling for these traps. Always take e3 showcases with a huge grain of salt because devs have been doing this tactic for ages now. Remember No Man Sky?

[iron elm]

No Man's Sky is probably one of the best examples of this.

[copper crest]

also the recent disaster The Day Before

[iron elm]

Well the fact that TDB was a scam could be seen from the very first trailer they put out. It just looked too good to be true. 🤷

[copper crest]

it was a heaping pile of dogshit

[hollow bay]

But the difference is content from dl2 e3 is actually present in the game but they scrapped it. It's unfortunate but it is what it is. TBD was just skill issue from Dev side.

[copper crest]

its fake

[hollow bay]

What is

[exotic lark]

A lot of stuff in the showcase was real, and at that time this was their vision for the game, before shit happened.

The E3 demos were also not technologically impressive

[iron elm]

Nothing about the E3 demo, though, says that is it real gameplay footage.

Feels like a pre-rendered in-engine footage disguised as gameplay.

[exotic lark]

It's not pre-rendered, but heavily scripted

There have been animations from it dug out

and it was recorded in-game, but VERY scripted

and just like in 2018, it features a non-existent quest (even in the 2019 story), guessing to not spoiler players

[iron elm]

That's basically the same thing as being pre-rendered. Like 5% of what we've seen was actually in a playable state, or playable at all.

[exotic lark]

The game was playable, but yeah heavily unfinished, you couldn't like play through it, because the story wasn't finished being written

https://youtu.be/R7r9dW1Lkbs

Footage of the game's parkour from Early 2020

[dense sand]

Is there anyway to fast travel to the VNC tower?

[verbal copper]

No, Garrison subway closest point

[burnt tusk]

It's pretty much the opposite in dl2. The existence of bows and crossbows makes adding guns to the game obsolete

[exotic lark]

Central Loop, while it was real even in 2019 at that time of development, was not real in the demo. It was a small part of the area curated for E3.

The quest for water in 2019 was never real, and in 2018 the Jack and Joe quest was never going to be in Elyseum.

So the showcases were being untruthful even back then

but what they showcased in terms of how the game looked and played was what they were making and what they partly had.

But it doesn't matter anymore

For anyone just looking at this out of context, this is a talk about wether E3 was real or not, and not if it's a superior version or if it should come back.

[meager cargo]

Hi guys

I gotta ask something

If I upgrade to next gen,my saves from the old console can be transferred ?

[exotic lark]

Like can you transfer the saves from console to PC?

[late widget]

yes u can from old gen to current gen

[exotic lark]

or from old console to new console

[meager cargo]

Old to new,yea

[exotic lark]

Oh yea I think, what console are you on?

[meager cargo]

Oh ok thx

[meager cargo]

On the PS4

[exotic lark]

and you're going to the PS5

[meager cargo]

Yep I should

[exotic lark]

Yeah I think it should definitely be possible

[meager cargo]

Got it,thx man

[exotic lark]

https://youtu.be/V8cmLeFQBT0

[exotic lark]

Although I think this is for moving games too and not just saves

[late widget]

https://dyinglight2.support.techland.pl/en/support/solutions/articles/15000055768-is-there-cross-gen-save-transfer-#:~:text=open your PS4 version of,you get all your trophies!

[exotic lark]

Someone with a console can help you more

[soft crystal]

ok i am completely blind what is the name for it?

[naive stream]

you sure?

[burnt tusk]

Yes

Similar gameplay, except one doesnt attract zombie when you shoot, have craftable ammo, and have access to elemental arrows. And did I mention being able to benefit from ranger gear?

It is genuinely staggering how much techland is trying to make guns looks like an afterthought

[naive stream]

thinking about it, you could say the same about DL1

with the exception of the shotgun in some scenarios

but technically pistols could absolutely become obselete in both

[exotic lark]

After playing some time with guns in DL2, ngl it's hard for me to hate on them

[burnt tusk]

Tho guns in dl1 did have the benefit of being the easier solution to fight human enemies

[naive stream]

especially knowing that their reloads are proper for a parody firearm

[exotic lark]

The animations are fucking golden

[naive stream]

it's how real they feel that's the main punchline

especially from somebody who plays games like Ready Or Not, Tarkov, Arma, Insurgency

real the animation feel that's what I mean

[burnt tusk]

Either way, yes guns in dl1 were quite null in terms of just existing. With it having a inferior animation than dl2 aswell

[naive stream]

I just care that the reload seems like it would actually reload and not magazine drops out of nowhere like in DL1 pistols

[exotic lark]

Granted, guns shouldn't have happened in this game series in the first place, but they did

[naive stream]

you sure guns shouldn't be a thing in DL at all?

[exotic lark]

Actually scratch that, it's just that DL1 does guns badly and DL2 shouldn't have guns that are modern

[glass vigil]

It works for guns too

[burnt tusk]

Personally, its fine for what it is in dl1. In dl2? With them showing a more creative concept of a ranged weaponries? Yeah it shouldnt exists in dl2

[naive stream]

my counter argument is, they should but not as fresh as they are

[exotic lark]

There should've been makeshift projectile weapons that aren't just gun

[naive stream]

like couple of scratches and bit of black and they're supposed to be worn off (point is they aren't)

if they seemed like a product of it's time then maybe it would make it more appealing for DL2

especially them being a "utility" and not another weapon, well they still are but their use could be tactical instead as another boomstick

[naive stream]

but because of how the game deviated to be more grounded, it is a literal RPG now so this ig goes down the toilet...

[soft crystal]

i think the guns fit in pretty nicely

and a gun that just lays in storage not being used would be in good condition

[burnt tusk]

The main thing is that there is already a lot of fps games that has done guns much better out there, let alone zombie games with guns.

This is the one game that it's ranged weapon system is something that actually seems interesting and can be quite memorable. They sacrificed it for the most generic gun system imaginable.

Even if they have make the guns looked old. It'll still be dumb for me as their still adding a pointless addition without adding any innovative or interesting system

Especially since their prioritising this over the hundreds of other issue the game already has

[soft crystal]

but the ranged system isnt sacrificed just because theres guns??

[burnt tusk]

Like we're getting guns before we even get flashlight shadows ffs. By the very least they can do is make the guns actually interesting

[iron elm]

To be fair, while the flashlight's shadows "work" in the first game, they do not work like they should.

[burnt tusk]

Is it better than dl2's shadow?

[iron elm]

I would argue that I rather have no shadows, than those messed up shadows from the first game. They must've done something recently, because I do not remember them being so fucked up in the first game.

[burnt tusk]

So you do agree dl1's shadow is by the very base line better than dl2's shadow right? Even as messed up as it is?

[iron elm]

No. I just said that I'd rather have no shadows than messed up shadows.

[soft crystal]

personally i think overall dl2 is better then dl1 exept in some very specific cases

[burnt tusk]

Well, it's still 2 years into the post game development on a second game which theoretically shouldve been better than the first game. If they have time to fuck around with something as pointless as guns , they got time to fix the shadows

[soft crystal]

id rather them focus on the gameplay and new content then some shadows for a flashlight

[iron elm]

It is better, though. Basically every aspect of the first game has been implemented into the second one, but improved.

[naive stream]

not the area tho
Villedor is just same all the way through, Harran felt more memorable

[soft crystal]

the only thing i can really think of thats worse in dl2 is the normal zombie ai. the unique zombie models (dont look as unique) and that zombies dont really stumple upon the terrain

[naive stream]

the ONLY memorable place I could think of, is Bazaar, Fish Eye and the beginning

[burnt tusk]

Well, if we put aside personal opinions on certain subject.

The fact that the physics, story and map is worst, should says alot

[soft crystal]

i find parcouring physics better in dl2 then dl1

[iron elm]

This is not a personal opinion, though.

[iron elm]

That's not exactly physics, though.

[soft crystal]

altough wish i could get the resitricted air controll from assisted with everything else in physical

[soft crystal]

its part of the physics

[burnt tusk]

What isnt

[soft crystal]

how zombies react to getting hit and stuff is better in dl1 yeah but the parcour physics is better in dl2

[iron elm]

Back to the shadows for a second, though - if people think having this kind of silhouette as a shadow is good, then they should rethink it.

[iron elm]

What I said isn't.

[burnt tusk]

Dl2 being better than dl1 isnt a subjective opinion?

[iron elm]

It isn't.

[soft crystal]

if you like a game better is a opinion though

[exotic lark]

The DL1 flashlight shadows are also fake funnily enough

[iron elm]

If you think that the first game is better than the second one, that's just nostalgia talking. 🤷

[iron elm]

Yeah, that's why I'm not even surprised that they didn't bother with them in the second game, to be honest.

[exotic lark]

I would want them to make the flashlight actually good though, since it's the year 2024

[iron elm]

I've spent more than 1,500 hours in both games, I am not picking favorites when comparing games.

[burnt tusk]

Ok, how about answer me this one question. Then ill agree that its nostalgia talking if someone think dl1 is better than dl2

Where is my modern dark age aspect

[iron elm]

It is not there, logically.

[exotic lark]

Reduced to atoms

[iron elm]

Since kids cried that they want weapons, devs had to add them.

[burnt tusk]

Then I rest my fucking case

[iron elm]

The modern dark age was scrapped long ago.

[iron elm]

You can rest it, but you are not right mate. 👍

[exotic lark]

You mean gravity, and just how the parkour plays?

[soft crystal]

yes. which is what the parcour physics are

[exotic lark]

I understand what everyone means when they say parkour physics, and I understand why everyone calls it parkour physics, but MAN I feel weird when people call it that

[soft crystal]

exept i want the air controll to be way less

i should not be able to turn around mid air it makes no sense

[iron elm]

Yeah, 'cause it is not really related to physics. 😄

[soft crystal]

runing and parcouring is very related to physics

[exotic lark]

Yeah, it's only physics in the way of how strong the gravity is or if the air control is high or low

[soft crystal]

and acceleration and momentum

[iron elm]

Oh boy, do I have things to say to you. 😄

[exotic lark]

Yeah I get that and I get why people call it physics, but this is nowhere related to the game's physics engine

[iron elm]

I don't want to bother explaining it in my own words, but here is a quick "rundown" or whatever I should call it.

"Game developers have to use physics when dealing with the effects of gravity, elasticity, sound, and the interaction of light with objects. Typical physics engines and extensions employ the following techniques to address a variety of situations that depend on physical laws: Collision detection."
@soft crystal

[burnt tusk]

Right, if thinking the game that has a replay content of genshin impact , and identity crisis so bad it can develop a personality disorder, and a story so bad people are calling dl1's story a masterpiece,bad. Is being wrong. Then I dont want to be right

[exotic lark]

Actually okay, now I can understand why people call it Parkour Physics, because it changes acceleration and momentum does change the speed of the player, and speed of the player is related to the game's physics.

[soft crystal]

this just proves my point correct though

[exotic lark]

but I still feel when I hear it because the momentum (at least in DL2) is a very simple value that just alters player speed.

[soft crystal]

just cus its simple dosnt mean it isnt physics

[iron elm]

Did you read what I've sent with understanding, or have you just simply "read" it?

[soft crystal]

my ideal parcour settings would be the air controll from assisted with everything else from physical

[exotic lark]

The player speed, acceleration and gravity is related to the game's physics, so I guess it's appropriate to call it parkour physics, but I'd personally just call it parkour mechanics

[exotic lark]

but do call it Parkour Physics because everyone calls it that and it's easy to understand

[soft crystal]

id say the mechanics are the stuff like the ability to run on walls doing long jumps and climbing while the physics is what determines how fast you go. how far and how much control you have while you do it

[exotic lark]

Parkour momentum is not related to the game's physics, but player's character acceleration is, so yeah

[hollow bay]

can anyone help me with a mission in dl2

[lethal fiber]

?lfg

[hollow bay]

im in a call alr

[lethal fiber]

oh whoops forgor to re-add this command

we have channels to look for players to play with 🙂

scroll down

[soft crystal]

momentum is a combination of mass and velocity though. like how fast your going and how fast you stop after you stop giving inputs

[exotic lark]

In real actual physics yes, but in the game momentum is much more simple.

But yeah you're right in that it should be called Parkour Physics

it is appropriate to call it that

[hollow bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167753805467766825/1238974749040840704/image.png?ex=6641e567&is=664093e7&hm=d71a6e99452c24c5f3522586b5b2c5eb6d82e0045a369c95effcc796b2df9514&

[buoyant carbon]

in DL2 the flashlight is positioned in the player's head while in DL1 its on the shoulder attached with duct tape

i would prefer something like the 1st game, more consistency

[iron elm]

Doesn't change the fact it looks horrible in the first game. 😂

[buoyant carbon]

i was not speaking about that

just telling you why it looks weird in the second game

[exotic lark]

I think it looks okay in DL1, if it looked the same in DL2 that would be okay, but it can look better in DL2

[iron elm]

The shadows don't even exist in the second* game. The flashlight looks fine, don't know what people are stretting about in terms of it's looks.

[buoyant carbon]

they do

its just grainy and not too visible

[iron elm]

They don't.

[buoyant carbon]

they do

[iron elm]

Look at something in the dark with your flashlight on and then hop into photomode. You'll see what I'm talking about.

They exist there, but not actually outside of it.

[buoyant carbon]

im talking about first person

they also do in third its just weird

[iron elm]

They don't.

[buoyant carbon]

they do dude

[iron elm]

Like I said, flashlight shadows are non existent in the second game.

[exotic lark]

When you go into photomode in DL2, it creates a real light instead of the fake flashlight

[iron elm]

A'ight, fucking bet. Launching the game now to clip it for you.

[old spoke]

ya'll i need help. I opened up dying light 2 and all of a sudden the resolution looks terrible? Please tell me i'm not the only one who sees it

[buoyant carbon]

ok

[exotic lark]

You're not

Try seeing if you have resolution scaling

[old spoke]

the further i look away the resolution turns dog💩

[iron elm]

Turn off DLSS or Dynamic Resolution.

[exotic lark]

like FSR, XeSS, etc.

[iron elm]

Or set the DLSS to "quality" instead of "performance"

[old spoke]

i have FSR

balanced

[exotic lark]

Yep

Did it look good before?

[old spoke]

yeah

[exotic lark]

Huh

Spaghetti Code: The Game

[old spoke]

i switched to FSR and it was good for like 2 days and now just poof

[exotic lark]

Try turning FSR off

and then back on

[burnt tusk]

How is it that they went from this to police vests

[old spoke]

alr imma change it

[exotic lark]

This is what 5 years of development in a not so changed engine based on your 8 year old game's engine does to you

[old spoke]

thanks it worked

the game is smoother too

[open tide]

yo guys, is it me or there are less poppies on roof groves

[exotic lark]

Peak DL2

[buoyant carbon]

see that weird black aura, its a shadow, its just weirdly simulated

[exotic lark]

They were also updating the engine while working on the game

[iron elm]

That's not a shadow my man.

[buoyant carbon]

it is

[exotic lark]

It's fake shadows added in the Good Night Good Luck update

[mighty finch]

and good luck

[buoyant carbon]

i can show thhe video, just need to compress it

[iron elm]

Even turned on ray tracing just to prove a point. What you see are not shadows. It's just a silhouette of an object or an NPC.

If this is how AAA games' "shadows" will look like moving forward, I think I'm disappointed. 😂

[buoyant carbon]

rtx is just making global illumination, playing with it too, but its a shadow, they way it reacts when you get further or closer makes it a shadow

i have a good example in my recording

[exotic lark]

It's a fake shadow

[buoyant carbon]

i know, that's why i said "weirdly simulated"

[exotic lark]

Oh

[open tide]

yo guys, is it just me or there are less poppies on roof groves

[exotic lark]

then you're both just agreeing with each other but in different words lmao

[iron elm]

It's literally just a silhouette that is supposed to convince us that it's a shadow. Apparently it worked on you.

My point is and always was that this is not a real shadow.

[buoyant carbon]

so a fake shadow

[exotic lark]

I'm pretty sure you two hold the same view on this, it's just that you use different words to describe it

[buoyant carbon]

yes, but its a shadow still

[buoyant carbon]

yeah i think

[iron elm]

Mate, for the sake of both of us, stop calling it a shadow please.

[exotic lark]

Wouldn't call it a shadow, like you said a couple messages ago, fake shadow

[buoyant carbon]

when i say shadow, you hear "real shadow" ?

[exotic lark]

That's what most people assume, that's why it's worth underlining that it's a fake shadow

[kindred pasture]

Glad it's not just me, I'm having a big issue finding poppies

[open tide]

they prbly balanced it idk, but i didnt find a update or dev log about it

[buoyant carbon]

ok then, but anyway they just need to make a real shadow and put it on the shoulder so that there is consistency

[exotic lark]

I hope they do, one day, literally just make the flashlight a real light

[buoyant carbon]

i think that a lot of stuff is heavily improved already but they are keeping this for DLC 2 to make it the best update

[dusky jungle]

I didn't realize how I got this

[robust cobalt]

Does Dl2 has weapon inspect?

[burnt tusk]

If you yeet the weapon, maybe

[robust cobalt]

No, a keybind to trigger it

[iron elm]

Just wish they'd have actually tried. Hell, people can mod proper flashlights that work into games, why can't devs just do it? It'd take them a day at the most.

[burnt tusk]

Dont think so

[burnt tusk]

Too busy making very useful additions like guns

[exotic lark]

True, it is completely possible to do, even if we ignore the way modders do the flashlight

[iron elm]

Alright mate, we get it, you don't like guns in DL2. It's there, nothing you can do now but not use them. 😂

[buoyant carbon]

its a company, not a single developper

[iron elm]

That's exactly my point.

[buoyant carbon]

it works differently, they have to manage workers and everything

[burnt tusk]

Which should mean that it can take them less time to do so

Manage on what? Adding a paid bundle that gives in game items?

[iron elm]

One guy, even without proper experience, can do it.. why can't a studio do it? Especially since it's something so easily fixable.

[buoyant carbon]

a game company is like a toothpaste company or a car company, they have to manage more than the actual product, they prefer delivering everything in one instead of making small improvements directly time after time

its not the case with techland but i mean we saw what happened with rockstar games employes recently

[exotic lark]

Reloaded Edition was the graphics update

[burnt tusk]

It has been 2 years, since we even have a proper flashlight shadow.

There is genuinely, no reason it will take them that long

[exotic lark]

Game should've gotten its flashlight updated back then

[buoyant carbon]

there is more important to that honestly

[exotic lark]

I do not like this argument, it's easy to dismiss the small things by saying that there are other, bigger things to do. All of the small things pile up to the thing that make your experience.
That and the flashlight is a big part of the Dying Light experience.

[soft crystal]

i played both games and having shadows for the flashlight have not affected my experience at all

[buoyant carbon]

don't forget what i said earlier, they might keep those for DLC 2

[burnt tusk]

Like what, making the skybox slightly better by not making the day night cycle dynamic, but rather make it looks slightly better? Making copy and pasted filler event? Adding guns? The enemy ai is not even fixed at this point in the game. If something as important as that isnt fixed yet I can really find it hard to understand what other priorities they have

[exotic lark]

I'm not talking about just the shadows now, I'm talking about the entire flashlight

[iron elm]

You're telling me there's not a single dev that can fix shadows to be like this? Find that hard to believe.

[soft crystal]

its probably a pretty big job to do

[buoyant carbon]

thhe ai is fine honestly, plus they added the moon and the sun

its a good thing

i ain't against ai improvements

[exotic lark]

Nah, RDR2 does it probably easy by just making the lantern have an actual light.

[burnt tusk]

They made it look slightly better rather than making it dynamic, theres a differenfe

[soft crystal]

do all the textures in the gma esuport the reflections. do every object have the properties to actually bnlock the light from those angels

[iron elm]

This. That's the only thing they need to change.

[buoyant carbon]

rockstar games didn't rush

the developpment

[exotic lark]

and some configuration of course, like making the light ignore Aiden.

[burnt tusk]

That and one of the reason people like dl1 is the attention to detail. Dismissing small issues like these goes against what dl1 stands for honestly

[exotic lark]

Which would be the harder part of it, but it's possible.

[iron elm]

Oh please, they had 2 years to fix it after launch.

[soft crystal]

and also make sure it dosnt tank performance

[iron elm]

Yes, that too.

[soft crystal]

something that seems simple can be a really big job to actually implement

[exotic lark]

It won't, it's a light out of hundreds in the game

[buoyant carbon]

it just is not too important, they will fix

you would have prefered this over the parkour update ?

[soft crystal]

what lights casts dynamic shadows that arent static

[iron elm]

Yes.

[toxic ferry]

:0

[buoyant carbon]

well techland doesn't think the same so that's why

[violet sky]

[burnt tusk]

The parkour update is like last year's june. They had an entire 6 month to fix this issue last year. Its still not fixed untill now

[buoyant carbon]

they are working on DLC2

its supposed to be better than the campaign

[iron elm]

That's not an excuse.

[burnt tusk]

Right, allegedly they are

[exotic lark]

Many

[buoyant carbon]

it is

[iron elm]

Not.

[soft crystal]

where?

[buoyant carbon]

making something bigger than what we have now is an excuse to being slow

[exotic lark]

If you want to see them, sleep until night and go to a place like the canteen

[soft crystal]

those lights are static

[exotic lark]

or UV lights, or the huts around the game

[soft crystal]

they dont move

[exotic lark]

outside of the canteen

[soft crystal]

those lights still dont move

[toxic ferry]

Techland can only do so much

[exotic lark]

If they cast a dynamic shadow, they work the same as a moving light

[exotic lark]

If they don't cast a dynamic shadow, they're truly static

[burnt tusk]

They got time to make all the additions of things like combat takedown, enemy weapon pick up and whatnot. And even made an entire tolga and fatin quest. Hell, they even animated and made an entire side quest for guns in the game even tho its uneccessary. Youre telling me they dont have time to fix the shadow issue?

[soft crystal]

theres a different to light sources that moves and lightsources that dont move.

[exotic lark]

Yes, there are light sources that are completely static, but a light source that casts a dynamic shadow can very well move

[buoyant carbon]

if they rush it you will be unsatisfied, they gotta make sure its ok so that you are satisfied

[woven thicket]

^^

[buoyant carbon]

comparing to rdr2 is unfair

[toxic ferry]

Or maybe they are working on it, but the primary focus is the dlc. And maybe they had to pause work on the dlc too many times for those updates they have to start focusing.

[woven thicket]

who's is actually comparing rdr2 to dl2...

like unironically

[iron elm]

Out of context it's bs, but I was comparing shadows my man.

[woven thicket]

rdr2 was worked on for like 11 years

[toxic ferry]

Word

[iron elm]

Wasn't.

[exotic lark]

It was about 8 years

[woven thicket]

mb it was 8

[burnt tusk]

Rushing, implies that their trying to fix it rn. I really doubt. They are fixing anything rn

[buoyant carbon]

still, we were talking about the dev routine behind those precious shadows

so i think you are comparing it to rdr2

[burnt tusk]

Their primary focus is on dlc so they decided that to take off the workload, they made an entire tolga and fatin questline as well as a questline for guns, while also remade the gun's shooting and reload animation. As well as animatee takedown animations

This is what Im getting fron you

[buoyant carbon]

rockstar had their time and once they released it they left it there

but they made sure the game was ok to be left there

on the other hand techland didn't had time and failed the release, but they were willing to fix it progressively

and they are listening to community very carefully so we should be thankful to have guns and nightmare mode right now instead of complaining for shadows

these are important for gameplay but for those devs it's not urgent

[compact ingot]

When is dying light 3 coming out

[toxic ferry]

Those were highly requested by the community and actually have a major impact on the game itself (as well as being cool asf) . DLC is the the main priority and will be far more worth it

[iron elm]

Except that the guns should've been makeshift variants and the nightmare diff should've been actually difficult. But at least something's in.

[ember parrot]

can someone help me im asking here cuz #🧟︱dying-light-1 is dead af rn i cant open the blue box for the unbreakable bounty idk why

[buoyant carbon]

also forgot to mention they are working i think on their next game

not sure

[toxic ferry]

Not everyone struggles with nightmare mode but techland can’t really change the skill of the players

[soft crystal]

can i please have a source for this

[exotic lark]

Actually Nightmare Mode is pretty hard I can't deny it

[burnt tusk]

Half of the thing you mentioned is literally just pointless fanservice while the other half is something that's not even a good difficulty increase change. Wdym those things are an excuse for shadows to not even be good

[toxic ferry]

Yeah I’m forever on hard mode, I can’t do nightmare

[soft crystal]

i like the guns they added

[exotic lark]

On a maxxed out character it's easy, but on a new save? Shit it's not that easy, not impossible, but definitely not easy.

[buoyant carbon]

bro you are complaining about shadows

calm down

complaining ain't helping

[burnt tusk]

Those are, also things....they couldve delayed untill they fix the base game.

The game isnt gonna die if guns or tolga and fatin isnt in the game. And lets be honest they only pushed those out to lessen the backlash they received when they've introduced dlp. So really , they shouldve spent their effort on better things

[lethal fiber]

Issue with shadows is as far as i understand - completly different lighting mechanics in dl2

[iron elm]

What else is there to do for us as players? Even if we give constructive criticism, it's usually overshadowed by people wanting silly things. 🤷

[soft crystal]

can you confirm that lights that dont move also work differently from a light that would move around

[lethal fiber]

so if we have to pick between working on Nightmare mode, or DLC 2, and improving shadows - decision on prioritizing something beneffiting larger group fo community will be made

[iron elm]

Is it at least being worked on?

[lethal fiber]

i cant confirm you anything 🙂

[soft crystal]

can you speculte

[lethal fiber]

no

[soft crystal]

sadge

[toxic ferry]

They pushed those out to give content for people who beat the game and don’t nitpick

[lethal fiber]

i had enough out of context screenshots maliciously used

?:)

[soft crystal]

:D

[lethal fiber]

backlash on dlp was honestly short timed

[buoyant carbon]

true, but you gotta admit that comparing rdr2 to DL2 for an argument around shadows doesn't make sense

[lethal fiber]

we already introduced changes we promissed alngside it

[soft crystal]

i like the guns altough i hate how i cant have block on rightclick for melee and aim on rightclick for range

[lethal fiber]

explained exte sively how it benefits community on large scale

[iron elm]

It was just to point out how shadows should be working. Not that poor excuse we have now, no offense to the devs.

[burnt tusk]

Complaining abt useless stuff that wont benefit the game isnt gonna help. Shadows are literally a huge visualisation part of the game that can help people immerse better into the gameplay. Im not asking for toggle hoods, guns or more customisation skins here.

Plus why do you even think parkour and physics were improved in the first place. Complains were made

[lethal fiber]

and enough people moved from buying via store to buy vis in game one to see it as something overall working allright

[toxic ferry]

I honestly don’t mind dlp, but that Medkit bundle needs to go or be free

[buoyant carbon]

i have been trying to tell them

[lethal fiber]

it doesnt at all. different games, different engines

it's like comparing mario 64 and elden ring

just because games are 3d

[soft crystal]

64 difnitely has better graphics

[woven thicket]

mario 64 defo has better shadows

[buoyant carbon]

i never said its useless

[lethal fiber]

fair

[iron elm]

Like I said, it was used just as an example of how shadows should work. 🤷

[compact ingot]

Omg dev team here hello

[iron elm]

What else was I supposed to use?

[compact ingot]

when is dying light the tv show is coming out

[soft crystal]

any chance there will be the ability to have aim on rightclick with ranged and block on rightclick with melee

[lethal fiber]

that feedback has been received, and devs know about this being an issue to look into possibly resolving

[soft crystal]

neat

[buoyant carbon]

also different development routine, salary and employe service

am i the only one pointing out people are working at techland

and have lives of their own

[lethal fiber]

maybe for you, and 10 other players. I think it is also worth to consider not everyone want same thing - shadows are amoung some of lowest requested features i see across all platforms

[woven thicket]

techland is run by ai wdym

[lethal fiber]

not counting in surveys we every once in a while perform

[compact ingot]

No silly they dont have lives, they are beings from underworld solely working for some peoples entertainment

[lethal fiber]

i get it's something people want. it's matter of scale of this need versus other needs voiced by players

[woven thicket]

parkour and physics are integral parts of gameplay that can literally make a game unplayable if not done well

shadows are not!!!

[iron elm]

To be completely honest with you, I haven't noticed it before someone pointed it out - but when you notice it, you can't unsee it. Not it just annoys me. 🤷

[lethal fiber]

it just released, this will be my monday work to see how people feel about it. some are upset, some say it doesnt matter if they can farm same stuff in 20-30 minutes so it doesnt affect them

so we will see

[compact ingot]

Lol but tbh people aint giving credit where it belongs

[iron elm]

I'm not one to care about graphics, but having no shadows at all is ticking me off. 🤷

[lethal fiber]

if only

[buoyant carbon]

that image ?

[dark violet]

i assume physics update would requier a complete change of the game

[toxic ferry]

The 5000 old world money should atleast be 50,000 given how easy it is to get 5000

[lethal fiber]

beep boop i have been conmpromised 🤖

[toxic ferry]

Wait no, 50000 seems a bit high

Idk man just a higher number

[lethal fiber]

on a side note fuck ai in creative space, i wish all ai prompt people a very step on a lego 🙂

[compact ingot]

I meant to reply your earlier message lol, people arent giving devs enough credit

[buoyant carbon]

oh ok, i was about to give you the origin of the image but yeah people forget its a company and not a friends group

[lethal fiber]

we often dont drop one huge update for single aspect - rather introudce those things bit by bit in smaller batches. fix something, see if players like it better, work on next one

[slim gull]

how many euros for dyinglight 2 on sale?

[lethal fiber]

so changes to physics, adjustments, all that happens. las update i was personally very happy with, because i saw a lot of issues players reported to me being fixed

[compact ingot]

I actually wrote a storyboard for a pilot episode for fun lol Can only imagine how cool would it be if a big company held the hands of techland and funded it

[lethal fiber]

but you know how it is, if whole community complain on one thing, and it gets fixed, answer is "oksy, this is fixe,d what about 10 other stuff that will be main issue now"

[soft crystal]

just wish i could get the assisted air controll with everything else from physical

[random mauve]

flexing a.i art in creative spaces is cringe.

[soft crystal]

physical air controll dosnt feel very physical at all

[lethal fiber]

it';s a long journey to get to the point majority will be happy, but we are going this direction

[dark violet]

the first game random zombies would stumble and fall i want that feature back because it was funny to watch and how they would stumble on each over into spikes

[buoyant carbon]

players complaining are like virals for you guys

[burnt tusk]

Shadows can help people better immerse into the gameplay. Which attention to detail is one of the things that made dl1 a very well praised game in the first place. Which should at least be a considered prioritisation . Theres a reason why many people complained abt shadows. Its also by the very least more intergral to the game than smth like having new questlines or guns when the game itself is unstable

Im not asking for them to have the whole model degrade mechanic in the first game. Im just asking them to make the one damn thing that they did okish in the first game to be on par with the first game

[lethal fiber]

also soemthing i am aware of not sitting well with players, and i see why

[soft crystal]

i wouldnt notice a difference if the flashlight casted a shadow

[compact ingot]

Omg the shadow is not 100 percent accurate i am dropping the game it ruins the fun so bad ew ew ew ew!!!!

[lethal fiber]

where are those many people you speak of?

[soft crystal]

in assisted i feel like i got momentum in the air as i cant just move willy nilly but it also feels floaty due to everything else in it

[compact ingot]

(imaginary friends)

[lethal fiber]

I mean it honestly. i barely ever see compliants on shadows prioritized over other issues players want to see fixed

[woven thicket]

the never said they're not going to improve shadows, but they clearly have more important things to focus on that the community wants, which is what pirek stated earlier

[lethal fiber]

i get it may be distracting, but it's not in our current priority list

[woven thicket]

pirek since you're here when is the maid aiden outfit coming 😭
i've waited 200 years for it

[buoyant carbon]

its a good thing, but compared to other stuff it can wait

[compact ingot]

ive seen more complaints about foliage glitching tbh but thats like 10 people only

[lethal fiber]

i also wait for the glimpse of hope, sitting in the corner of devs channel waiting to se it pop up

https://tenor.com/view/avett-tickets-gif-27558927

[compact ingot]

Maid aiden ❎ Maiden ✅

[lethal fiber]

me checking current work in progress stuff in devs files like

[soft crystal]

well it is in the backlog so thats atleast something

[silver wasp]

yo guys can i still get the hoveboard on dl 2?

[dusky jungle]

1000 hours

[iron elm]

@lethal fiber Are the custom characters for coop still in the works, or has that been scrapped? 🤔

[toxic ferry]

Custom characters as in, custom chicken beak?

[soft crystal]

you can check the idea page btw

[toxic ferry]

Oooooo that makes more sense

[lethal fiber]

it should be already removed as we did it months ago

you have non aiden characters already

from in game characters like Hakon or Waltz

[woven thicket]

maiden aidenbabaiden

[burnt tusk]

https://youtu.be/r1gAzanyo00

https://youtu.be/r1gAzanyo00

Probably thw most up to date ones I can find

[lethal fiber]

to crossover skins like For Honor bois or vampire masquerade

[iron elm]

Damn, that's it?

Eh, tbh don't really know what else I was expecting.

[woven thicket]

youtube videos are very different from the entire community buh

[lethal fiber]

we constantly release new skins that aren't aiden

[soft crystal]

i wouldnt call a single person making a video many people and it has barely any views either

[buoyant carbon]

i think i saw that request differently

[lethal fiber]

if you think of new characters = full fledged characters with own voice lines etc... this is a bit of too big of a scope to do right now

again - priorities, this would take months of work of many people, and be a costly thing to make

[woven thicket]

nah there's hakon, aitor, waltz, rahim, brecken (kinda), rais (kinda)

[compact ingot]

Maiden Aidenbabaiden listening to Made in Heaven while they are pretending to be maiden aiden wearing maiden outfits made in india by maid aidens

[lethal fiber]

so i dont think at least in forseeable future to even consider something like this

[toxic ferry]

Can we get the guys from dl1 back? It was a bald guy, I think a ginger, and a guy I can’t remember

[buoyant carbon]

not voicelines, i thought that dude wanted that the aiden model for other players would have a different haircut or skin color to make him different

[lethal fiber]

yeah there is more, just didnt want to recite whole store offer haha

[iron elm]

Hell, Tl could've given me a mute but a custom one and I would've been happy.

[compact ingot]

nah that wouldnt fit at all

[lethal fiber]

thats one youtuber who alongside this covered dozen other stuff

youtubers and influencers have own separate "way" to bring the feedback to their respective manager

[toxic ferry]

Dead island sounding idea

[lethal fiber]

on community side it's not really a P0 to be adressed right away so more of some backlog when we clear out most burning needs

[lethal fiber]

Tolga and Fatin are back, so is spike. and skins for different dl1 characters as well

[buoyant carbon]

@lethal fiber also i think in reloaded edition you guys added reflections right ? it was experimental in RTX but im not sure

[toxic ferry]

I meant the other three survivors they added as outfits

[dark violet]

@lethal fiber i seen that the nightwalkers is a idea on the outpost will it ever come because that would make nightmare mode better?

[soft crystal]

i dont like that the volatiles themself start chases. i wana fight em but its just annoying

[lethal fiber]

there was a lot on that update, i dont exacly recall, but im sure there were some imporvements