💬︱dying-light-2

[gilded saddle]

Have me be in the game and i just cough once, the world explodes, the end

[light sky]

Riding a horse would be so fucking sick

[signal shale]

ur idea>dl2 mia story

[light sky]

Or a motorbike

[gilded saddle]

Mia

[signal shale]

tbh

[gilded saddle]

🛌

Snoozin

[languid loom]

What a cursed name to me now.

[signal shale]

boring ah story

[light sky]

Anyone named Mia must be shaking their boots after finishing DL2

poor souls

[signal shale]

dont forget what u saw at e3 2018 retro….

[languid loom]

2028

[signal shale]

ignore that-

[light sky]

But what specifically in 2018's E3?

Just in general?

[signal shale]

like everything

[light sky]

What about it

[signal shale]

fake game 🤫

[light sky]

Ah, I understand

Yeah they never follow the concepts they make

[languid loom]

Man, everything that's ever shown at E3 for the entire run of that tradeshow was just high polish vertical slices of potential final products.

[light sky]

They basically shit on concept artists and the fake worlds they create

[signal shale]

dl2 e3 was so dreamy that there are currently 3 big projects that ik who want to bring it back in some way

e3 definitive, renaissance and Last Light

[gilded saddle]

Thats what that roblox game was called

[light sky]

We know about it, they've been getting a ton of attention lately

[signal shale]

still is ye

[gilded saddle]

i was looking for it bc someone told me that

[signal shale]

looking good so far

[light sky]

I hope to see the mods make the community and playercount more alive

[signal shale]

i hope renaissance wont let techland buy it from them…

[light sky]

They are besides DLC2, the only hope left

[languid loom]

I wonder what improvements under the hood Techland has been doing for the game engine for the DLC2

[light sky]

Why would u assume that?

[signal shale]

dlc2 isnt a hope rly

its just perhaps finally some needed content

not game saver

this 2 yrs was supposed to be game saver

but sorta failed and succeeded

[signal shale]

idkk

[light sky]

You're right... that is simply why I have uninstalled the game since July

They had their first few years, and nothing has been that impressive so far to bring people back

[signal shale]

hell ye

but but

firearms 🥰😍

[light sky]

Besides animations and parkour changes I know

[languid loom]

Nightmare mode is alright for an update. It's made me less stupid as a player and more angry at my own mistakes.

[signal shale]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-stare-funny-gif-26367587

[light sky]

If sarcasm was a physical thing, I would choke you right now

[signal shale]

but its mainly just tougher enemies

boring

[light sky]

It's pretty much a cardboard copy of what NG+ did to buff enemies

They just multiplied it

[languid loom]

The stamina nerf on the paraglider at night and the nerf on the regen heal item has me actually using the dumb bandages.

[signal shale]

its an ok update

[languid loom]

I'm using the grappling hook way more now.

[signal shale]

viral leap fix was very good tho

but 2 yrs so, disappointing

[languid loom]

Yeah, they're not javelin missiles anymore

[light sky]

LOL

[spiral thicket]

That's what I was afraid of really, I hoped that my concept about "Realism" difficulty would be added, but some players just need zombies who could one shot you. Just so hardcore player will be happy.

[light sky]

Dude whenever you chase a volatile, it's harder to catch them than when they try to catch you

[light sky]

Speedrunners probably have made themselves dirty right now. Going through the campaign without getting one shot killed at night

[languid loom]

I still think the volatile spawns are too high. I get cornered by like three of them and get bodied.

[light sky]

How can it still be so entertaining with such a dull difficulty

[spiral thicket]

Yea, I've created a whole list of changes but they didn't accept it

[light sky]

They should make unique zombie spawns more frequent than send a whole army of volatiles to you at once

Before I uninstalled, I still barely saw any banshees or exploders, or even the mini chargers

[languid loom]

I mostly agree with that. I just wish we were chased harder by virals and banshees before the volatiles show up.

Like I NEVER see banshees outside of quest stuff

[light sky]

I'm surprised they didn't do that with the chase level system. I saw it as a wonderful oppertunity to progressively make it harder by introducing a new unique zombie by every level

[winged perch]

is there anything I can look forward to or do in dying light 2 after ive already grinded the game?

[spiral thicket]

About the Nightmare difficulty, I which Demolishers were being able to spawn in more locations, sometimes even unusual ones, like a section of VNC tower

[languid loom]

By mini-charger you mean the rocky lads we have to smack on their backs right?

[light sky]

I'm afraid not, my friend. You're better off waiting until Tower Raids come

[winged perch]

whats a tower raid?

[light sky]

You haven't heard of it? From the roadmap?

[winged perch]

nah is it something on their website?

[kind shell]

Upcoming update where you'll be able to raid floors on the vnc tower

[light sky]

?roadmap

[winged perch]

oh shittt that sounds so fun

[light sky]

Oh, nope

[light sky]

It'll basically be a dungeon crawler game mode implemented into DL2

[spiral thicket]

That sounds fun, but Techland will ALWAYS make 2 steps forward and one step back

[light sky]

True

[spiral thicket]

Something must happen

[kind shell]

Hope we'll get to see those infected that can climb walls and hang on the ceiling

[winged perch]

sickk i cant wait for that

[light sky]

But don't get your hopes up too high

We still have yet to see gameplay first

[kind shell]

Obviously

[light sky]

And no cinematic bullcrap

[winged perch]

i keep opening the game back up cause i wanna grind it again but i just cant find anything that keeps me hooked

[light sky]

Just take a break for now

[winged perch]

yeah true

[light sky]

I'm sure tower raids will release soon

[spiral thicket]

By the way guys, is "Ideas Posting" thing open again? Or it's still closed? I have lots to suggest

[languid loom]

Go ahead and slog through all 1950 entries that are under voting first.

[spiral thicket]

My ideas are better than just ImPrOvEd Flashlight

I suggest mechanics

[lament glen]

I have discovered both Elite Bounty Missiosn for Harper and Huntress are still bugged

[languid loom]

Honestly the only thing I want right now is some type of interaction where I can check my Biomarker in Nightmare difficulty.

[spiral thicket]

Wait, it's impossible?

I mean, turned off?

[languid loom]

Yeah they hide a bunch of UI stuff on Nightmare.

[spiral thicket]

What is that bs

[languid loom]

Sneaky fucking goddamn renegade archers

[spiral thicket]

They hit hard?

[languid loom]

Survivor sense doesn't highlight them anymore

Any renegades for that matter.

[spiral thicket]

Well, at least some improvements to Archers

I have whole list of what or how we can improveme interaction with EVERY type of enemy and human

Yet, there's a lot of ideas posted already

So empty, so irrational

I'm starting to think, humans lost their sense of imagination

And common sense of course

[languid loom]

Yeah, there's just a litany of "cOlLaB wItH fRaNcHiSe" suggestions.

[spiral thicket]

Oh... Whit what franchise This time?

[languid loom]

Those hurt the most, because there's Lawyers involved.

[spiral thicket]

Saul Goodman?

Or you mean it's some franchise with very greedy devs?

[languid loom]

L4D, Walking Dead, Fallout, Dead Island, Marvel characters, ETC.

[spiral thicket]

MARVEL what the hell

[languid loom]

Somebody suggested Ghost Rider.

[spiral thicket]

Outfit might be OK but overall, he doesn't fit

[robust cobalt]

#⭐︱general

[languid loom]

Within this context we're discussing the Suggestion board the developers gave us. But this is a fair stopping point. If it's anything vaguely zombie related somebody's tossed up the collab idea.

[spiral thicket]

I wonder if we ever get TLOU collab. These makeshift weapons look great and attachments to guns might be useful.

[robust cobalt]

I've seen it so many times and it did went off topic

[median kernel]

Hello

[languid loom]

Going back to an earlier topic, you can technically see your biomarker on your wrist and there's plenty of audio queues to hear the stages of immunity decay.

But no dedicated way to check anymore. So I feel like I'm hitting the immunity boosters way more often when I go into chemical areas.

Also, did Nightmare remove the clock? If feel like I haven't seen a time read out since I started that NG+

[arctic river]

That’s not a big shock

Chemicals degrade immunity hella quick

[languid loom]

As intended.

[latent mortar]

GRE thought dousing the city in the Gen mod chemicals would slow it down but it didn’t

[languid loom]

Unless you've got the fanciest drip in the game. Tolga and Fatin could have been fashion designers in another life.

Wasn't the in game lore that it'd accelerate the rate of infection in those already dead, so they'd decay faster?

But they just didn't care at all todo testing on living infected people?

[latent mortar]

The chemicals? I think so I know the infected blades you make do

[arctic river]

I think the “slow it down” was just trying to kill people really quick to slow it down that way

[latent mortar]

Hell if they didn’t do that. It would’ve been all volatiles. The chemicals interrupted that making new mutations and necromancers

[languid loom]

You can reduce the number of sick people in a city to zero, by committing a genocide

[arctic river]

Pretty much

[languid loom]

Also, because I literally blocked my memory of doing hush little baby runs in the first game. Thank you developers for not having infected children and babies this time around.

unless the banshees are children/teenagers, then fair play, nice redesign

[shell geyser]

I always shot those babies point blank with a shotgun

Annoying little bastards

[gilded saddle]

🤨

[latent mortar]

Legend level 228…22 away from 250 those mutation samples gave me shit ton of legend levels-

[gilded saddle]

[burnt tusk]

I feel like the more objective and none biased statement and/or explanation would be it's a pointless addition that doesn't fit into the weapon ecosystem of the game and doesn't really add anything new nor interesting not benefitting to the game. Coupled with the fact that as of current implementation it is a creatively lacking implementation with no new mechanic added as well as being added with the intention of padding game time.

The addition by itself, as much as I am inclined to disagree isn't necessarily objectively a bad idea. But it's really at best a pointless addition that depends on how they treat it , would just be a waste of Dev time. And their treating it like a fan service

[languid loom]

I'm way down at like, 140? And am just chomping at the bit for level 251 so I can respec into the utility buffs

[latent mortar]

Nice

[languid loom]

I'm so hesitant to open the gold cases because my stash is full and it feels just wrong to scrap the orange tier gear.

[light sky]

It is literally fan service... which is why I hate this addition so much more. They completely disregarded the fact that guns are supposed to be scarce, and makeshift being the replacement

[gilded saddle]

Well for the record makeshift wasnt a planned before release afaik

[shell geyser]

Makeshift guns can have way more creative designs and functions too

[gilded saddle]

But it is planned hopefully

[light sky]

Makeshift should've been the top priority ever since we saw Scorpio

[gilded saddle]

Also from a business standpoint, the update was a massive success

[light sky]

What a beautiful weapon...

[shell geyser]

They did say they were planning on adding more guns so we have hope still

[gilded saddle]

A large majority of the fanbase did want guns too

[latent mortar]

Jai knew where they were. The herald mentioned a renegade knowing where it was…is Jai that renegade?

[gilded saddle]

Could be

[latent mortar]

Bloodborne weapon

[gilded saddle]

We dont know

[latent mortar]

I’m just hoping Deathbringer returns I fucking love that shotgun

[burnt tusk]

That and my personal opinion wise, that they didn't necessarily make them interesting enough. No new mechanics or home front revolution type of ideas for the guns.

Except they did have a good idea of how ranged weapons can work, Scorpio is the example of that. But they never expanded upon the idea of more ranged weapons like Scorpio, and Scorpio itself is treated like a fomo weapon that has no correlation to the lore

[shell geyser]

Where’s my dual wielding laser miniguns techland?

[light sky]

I hate the majority of the fanbase anyway for their wet dreams about adding a lot of DL1 into DL2

[burnt tusk]

The guns as of rn, is a generic gun system you can find in any zombie game

[gilded saddle]

Yea i can agree with that

I said this a year ago of the gaming slowly turning into dl 1.5

But then people turn around and say "the devs dont care, they're lazy"

[latent mortar]

I wouldn’t mind seeing a Hellraid bundle tbh

[gilded saddle]

Fans nowadays are just entitled for the most part and very few actually take the time to critique the medium

[light sky]

I don't agree with the last part for the Scorpio. This weapon was their demo presentation on the concept of makeshift guns for the world, a weapon that has multiple functions. They could've done that with so many other types of weapons turned into an actual amalgamation of a firearm

[gilded saddle]

My hope is that they stop with modern guns and move to makeshift

[light sky]

It's too late now

[gilded saddle]

3 modern is enough, makeshift is where the originality can come in full swing

[burnt tusk]

Which is the main issue of techland's heavy reliance on the community to give them ideas. We don't always know shit. As much as a supposed success guns brought to the game, you can't deny that alot of that came from the free weekend and the repackaging techland did to dl2. And the success only lasted for like a month or so aswell

[gilded saddle]

Correct

The gun update was an amazing financial decision all around

[burnt tusk]

Yes I believe we're saying the same thing. Techland wasted the potential of Scorpio type weapons....

[light sky]

Which is why this whole community requests system is so shady to me... it's been given to the wrong fanbase. A lot of it is just pointless fan service, and no new actual effective mechanics and enjoyable content

[gilded saddle]

I seen some really good ideas that arent dl1 heavy

Its just very ambitious and takes time

At the end of the day its still a business with deadlines

[light sky]

Everything that is good is too ambitious for Techland, which is why I find it hilarious they consider themselves AAA developers now

[burnt tusk]

Exactly, heck there's even people wanting vehicles in this game . Yknow in a fucking parkour game

[light sky]

Hah, so much for being "high quality"

[gilded saddle]

Wym?

[light sky]

Techland thinks they are so good now since the release of DL2, they consider themselves to be a high class company

What a joke

[gilded saddle]

If thats their words thats their viewpoint

[light sky]

That is exactly their words my friend

[gilded saddle]

DL2 is better than it once was but still needs alot of work

[latent mortar]

they listen to the fan base retro

[gilded saddle]

^

[light sky]

Not my point

I do believe in that

[gilded saddle]

Sometimes i think a bit too much but also i understand both sides

Wanting to please the fanbase as best as they can

[burnt tusk]

There is a lot of ideas I've seen that isn't as ambitious as it seems. It's just that it felt like techland is more inclined to please the fans rather than listening to ideas that benefit the game more than anything

[latent mortar]

If your here just to make fun of the devs just keep quiet

[gilded saddle]

Thats all they want at the end if the day

No need to be rude

[light sky]

That's not also my point...

[gilded saddle]

If you cant maturely add onto the dicussion its best not to engage

[burnt tusk]

Tolga and fatin is an amazing quest, there's no denying that. But you'd have to admit the idea of adding tolga and fatin into dl2 itself is a pointless fan service that doesn't benefit the game much

[gilded saddle]

Its a side quest bounty

Its not meant to be taken seriously

[languid loom]

It's also the percentile problem with communities. I think it's like 10% of a given group will engage information and documentation outside of the game, and then 10% of that 10% actually engage in community discourse. So that resulting 1% seems REALLY loud by comparison.

[burnt tusk]

Yes that isn't my point here

[gilded saddle]

Its like you baited yourself lol

[gilded saddle]

Exactly

Loud minorities making it seem like its alot of people on one subject

[languid loom]

You shut up about them. They gave me the armor set that's letting me explore the map without fiddling with game files.

like 6 whole minutes of chemical zome immunity

[gilded saddle]

[light sky]

Tolga and fatin were pointless fanservice too. Even if it's "not meant to be taken seriously", it was barely engaging enough to bring people back

[burnt tusk]

Thanks for missing my point then

[gilded saddle]

Alot of people seemed to like it

[light sky]

Because of nostalgia

We love tolga and fatin

[gilded saddle]

Its a fucking side quest, why gaslight yourselves into thinking it was meant to be serious?

Its like you want to be angry at something so little

[light sky]

What the hell... i never made any intention of doing that

What's with the misunderstanding?

[languid loom]

Oh don't get me wrong, it was a pretty bad quest, but there was wonderful amounts of developer creativity in the level designs from it.

[burnt tusk]

I am not fucking gaslighting myself. I'm not trying to critique the quest I am critiquing the idea of adding tolga and fatin into the game

[light sky]

I'm just voicing my opinion

[gilded saddle]

But whats the issue exactly?

[light sky]

To put it in short

[gilded saddle]

Ofc its fan service

[light sky]

Tolga and Fatin, was pointless fan service. That served no good content at all for something that was hyped up and praised so much just because of hearing their names

[gilded saddle]

Then thats on them

Techland didnt really hype them too hard

[dull heath]

Counter point

[light sky]

I don't understand any of this

[gilded saddle]

Ofc when ppl hear dl1 characters coming back they'll be hyped

Thats kind of what being a fan of a franchise is in emotion

[burnt tusk]

The issue of adding something that serves nothing more than just being fan services that uses their dev time and resources instead of using those to improve the game's base elements.

Again don't get me wrong, the quest is a good quest,it's implemented greatly into the game. But that's the work of techland actually being good at their job

[gilded saddle]

Well thats subjective tbh

What you view as "worker doing a good job" is way different from someone elses

[dull heath]

the only time theyre bad at their jobs is when they do stuff i dont like

[gilded saddle]

Game development is in no way easy

#dl2-spoilers

[burnt tusk]

Well there's no better way to word "a bad idea being implemented goodly into the game"

[gilded saddle]

Once again, subjective

[light sky]

Exactly

[gilded saddle]

Objectively speaking i do agree certain ideas should be put on hold for more game health ones

But there is no straight line to this

Sometimes devs can just have fun and higher ups let them do whatever

Then the rest of the time they gotta stay on track and do what they are told

Right now their priorities are tower raid and DLC2

[light sky]

This is sounding like a bunch of excuses to add more of this fan service

[dull heath]

dlc 2 my beloved

[gilded saddle]

Nothing more but to wait

Not an excuse, just game development

Other companies are way more harsh tbf

[dull heath]

god forbid the devs add something they think the fans of the series would like

[gilded saddle]

DL2 as a whole could be in a worse state

[shell geyser]

Even by Tolga and Fatin standards it felt way too goofy

[gilded saddle]

Exactly^

[languid loom]

Yep, we're smack dab in the "Hurry up and wait" section of the game's lifecycle since it's a sold product and not a live service.

[gilded saddle]

They were never meant to be taken serious from the start

[shell geyser]

Even the crazy things they did in the first game still felt like it could be done in reality

Not really a fan of the whole multiverse thing or whatever

[gilded saddle]

Its not real omg 💀

Its a fucking sidequest

You literally fight multiple aidens

[shell geyser]

I’m just speaking my mind on it

[light sky]

The thing is... the reason why I don't like any of this, is because the game is still in a horrible state. Even if this update didn't take much time away from big stuff, the update didn't bring much people back to take in this goofy "fun" they brought in

[gilded saddle]

BUT

[latent mortar]

Like they’re gonna listen tbh

[languid loom]

I did like that part. Finally got to see my character model from the outside.

[gilded saddle]

If they do go that route, they have to be very careful

[latent mortar]

Sad fact

[dull heath]

i disagree about it being in a horrible state rn, i think the game is pretty fun ngl

[gilded saddle]

If they go the marvel route, its over

[gilded saddle]

Curious, gimme 4 things u think could make the game better

Quick list

[latent mortar]

Immediate silence

[gilded saddle]

Im just waiting, they can take their time

[light sky]

It's 6 am for me, give me a break

[dull heath]

kyle crane

[languid loom]

PFFFFTTT

[gilded saddle]

No problem, not trying to play a GOTCHA moment

[languid loom]

Yeah, Crane showing and doing "the following" talking thing would just kill the vibe of the whole game.

[dull heath]

i loved when he heroically walked in, said "its cranein time" and craned all over the room

[languid loom]

I did too, the first game was good

But god, just leave him as a long lost friend of Spike from the intro quest. Techland I beg of you.

[dull heath]

you know that wont happen

hes gonna come back either as some half zombie half human type thing or he'll be some big bad monster we kill

no way they leave him like that

[latent mortar]

Hmmmm I would say UV mods like the volatile hunter weapons

[gilded saddle]

Elaborate pls

What do u mean

[shell geyser]

How about fixing the UV flashlight first?

[languid loom]

Like instead of bleeding it a noctural mod we can craft ourselves?

[latent mortar]

The volatile hunter pack from 1. Those blueprints we got that we can turn out baton, machete or dagger with electric and fire and it has the uv effect when hitting volatiles

[gilded saddle]

Defeats the purpose of nocturnal weapons

[gilded saddle]

Oh, never knew that

[latent mortar]

Well….there’s the tribal machete that’s craftable. If you did the anniversary bounties that is

[languid loom]

I do have that one I think.

[latent mortar]

You know there’s bundles I wouldn’t mind seeing come back in 2

[dull heath]

i want that bundle with the laser guns from DL1

[latent mortar]

Like for instance, HTU

[languid loom]

I'd be fine with remixes and refreshes of those. Just not straight asset imports.

[latent mortar]

They were made by the Volkan company

Wonder if they were around to help the gre during the fall

[languid loom]

I just want grungy gear that's beat up. The guns, melees, and gear of survivorship bias.

[light sky]

#1: Spend more time with squashing highly requested bugs. Many are being reported hundreds if not thousands of times, but the most miniscule ones rather get more attention for some reason. Hell, remember when they kept blocking paths for speedrunners intentionally? That was hilarious to see

#2: Hire better writers. The game is suffering from a huge meme that is the story, since it received so much hate since the very first day. They make DL1's story look better in some aspects. The only good thing this game's story had were some of its characters. Absolutely nothing else. The choices and consequences system is a huge failure, and it was announced so many times too like this huge game changing system. But games still fail at it, and DL2 is another victim on this list

#3: Make a whole restart on listening to the fanbase. Ever since the launch of this system where you can send your own requests for any category, with a like and dislike function. I already knew it's destined to be chaos. If you look at that part of the website right now, you can see how much delusional fan service there is. Not just for fun, but up until the point of changing so many big things to make it more like DL1. The only other thing from DL1 they should add is physics, nothing else

#4: Be more consistent with updates. The reason why this game failed so hard, apart from the obvious success on the business side, is turning this game into a complete live service, offering many years for content and such. But look what they have done for the game so far. It's been full of delays and only like a couple good updates. Even the most succesful updates haven't made a big stir in the community, which says a lot about how they are handling their game. Sure, the ambitious stuff takes time, but they should've delayed the game again. On day 1, we have been left with barely any shit to do, and today, still barely any shit to do. Endgame content, is still nonexistent, even with Bloody Ties' underwhelming arena. That had so much potential, but didn't make any use of it

[gilded saddle]

Kidding :P

[light sky]

My apologies for the text wall

[gilded saddle]

Nah, i asked so i have to read

[light sky]

I need to fucking sleep... i can't think straight at 6 am

[pure jay]

Who do i buy guns from?

[clever hawk]

Jai

[pure jay]

👍💜

[clever hawk]

On the Fish Eye

[languid loom]

Jai, after completing his onboarding quest

[pure jay]

Awesome

[burnt tusk]

It's fine for things like tolga and fatin as it seems they genuinely seem to care and put in effort

But for things like guns,acolyte outfit and retro gun skin it really felt like blatant fan service

[dull heath]

it was an anniversary event

idk what you would expect from something like that

[arctic river]

I actually don’t hate these ideas

[light sky]

Thanks Crow

[languid loom]

We'll probably get more DL1 throwbacks for the 3rd year anniversary. It'd be good if they held off on those until it had community relevance.

[normal linden]

[gilded saddle]

1 - bugs are usually graded on what impacts a player the most (crashes, mem leaks etc.) Even app developers have a similar process

2. Agree 100% nothing more to say

3. Developers seem to check extensively when they can and provide an explanation on if an idea is denied or pending review

4. BT could have been more but i think with the bad reception they decided to take that as feedback and move on to do better and put more into dlc2 hence why we dont really know much besides tower raid

[arctic river]

As always, I feel I’m the biggest angry person over the shit story because of the lost potential it had; but I also think that the big issue is a huge problem that’s getting overlooked considering the VNC tower elevator is known for dropping people out of it and that still happens because my friend dropped out of it last jig he.

AND OPTIMIZATION

PLEASE GET US OPTIMIZATION MY LAPTOP BURNS MY LEGS

[languid loom]

Climbs to 100C and holds there?

[light sky]

I mean... they could've added more stuff to BT after release honestly. But it's unfortunate they don't add anything onto the arena

[arctic river]

BT was already confirmed to be experimental so I’m not surprised it isn’t the best.

[gilded saddle]

But retro is right

[light sky]

The arena to me is a playground with potential for experiments

[gilded saddle]

Could have added more to it

[burnt tusk]

The addition of Scorpio esque weapon that fits the dl2 world and is a genuinely creative addition would've been nice. It'll be even better if we also have interesting mechanics that came with it.

Or yknow just replace gun update with nightmare mode update. It'll at least help that their releasing it earlier

[arctic river]

Not saying he isn’t; just stating I’m not surprised it isn’t that great.

[gilded saddle]

Maybe tower raid will be what BT should have been in some ways

[gilded saddle]

Yes you are raaahhh

[arctic river]

Be quiet smelly dog

[gilded saddle]

:|

[languid loom]

Gameplay question, do the console players have aim assist with the bow, crossbow, and guns?

[light sky]

Maybe it's better if they seperate the categories of specific topics into different section of this whole community idea system. That way, the most efficient ideas get upvoted to the top in their own respective category

[gilded saddle]

Wym? Dont they already do that?

[light sky]

I mean for specific topics like DL1 and such

[gilded saddle]

We have a pretty clear idea of batches on which ideas

Like "DL1 related ideas"?

[light sky]

Sure, that's an example

[gilded saddle]

Ohhhh ok gotcha

[burnt tusk]

Also I believe no one liked how they did with dl2 when it launched. It'll be hard to say they aren't bad at their job at that time

[gilded saddle]

Feel like that may shift ppl to only want dl1 stuff

Bc "it worked in the first game!"

[burnt tusk]

Honestly a simpler explanation I can think of is have better quality control over their suggestion and only take them as an actual suggestion rather than relying it to think of update ideas

[light sky]

"If it works, don't fix it" doesn't always come to the most... appropriate development for a sequel

[gilded saddle]

[light sky]

That's what people initially thought with The Following

[languid loom]

I do think the suggestion page is akin to a forum without moderation and cleanup currently. It needs some light housekeeping.

[light sky]

But everyone was so outraged about the buggy destroying the use of the parkour system before people quickly fell in love

[dull heath]

for sure, but i think the game is in a really good spot rn aside from the story

[burnt tusk]

The sentiment depends imo, people praised E3 dl2 despite it being a far fetch from what dl1 is

[light sky]

I honestly want to hear a full explanation from you on how this is true

[dull heath]

its purely based on my opinion, which you would disagree with

[light sky]

Just go with it

[dull heath]

but now that i think about it, i dont like the agents

[languid loom]

TBH I hated the buggy simply because I loved the parkour so much. I wanted to stomp the slums and swing around old town.

[burnt tusk]

Imo no, the gameplay loop is still mainly focusing on grinding alot, physics still suck and the game is hardly even considered well polished. It's a better game don't get me wrong and I do like parts of it. But the game is an identity crisis on what it should be

[light sky]

2018, 2019 or both? Because 2018 looked kinda like an amalgamation of DL1 with a few additions here and there

2019 was a whole different world

[languid loom]

First E3 demo was a cobbled vertical slice, most likely built on top of DL1

[light sky]

I mean they also literally reused so many DL1 assets for 2018

It's obvious to see in the gameplay environment

They just changed a lot of the textures

[languid loom]

From a gamedev perspective, I have no issue with that as a player. If you have a bag of tricks that work, use them. I won't complain.

[light sky]

Me too

It's not a big deal

Assets are always reused, with a few changes to make it unique

They did it surprisingly well for it at the time, 6 years ago

[burnt tusk]

Id say both, 2018 still have what they would call "modern dark ages" .which is the main thing I'm attracted to this game in the first place

[languid loom]

I think my favorite one I've seen (Not in DL1 or 2) was that there were only 2 eyeballs in the whole game, but each sphere had 4 different pupils and irises.

[light sky]

Oh how sad that description has become now. There's no "modern dark age" anymore in the current release. It's so full of rainbows and shrines with the badly overgrown nature

Again, not trying to angrily nitpick here. Don't come at me please

[burnt tusk]

Yeah you can kinda tell why I started being disappointed in this game

[light sky]

The environment changes, when I saw them during the Dying2Know gameplay videos

I already felt the dissapointment in how much they changed the world

It's like as if the previous versions never existed. Barely any inspiration used from them too, just so much light, no dark age at all

[shell geyser]

I’m so glad I never kept up with E3

[latent mortar]

Off topic but anyone here from Sulfur safe?

[latent mortar]

Or nothing left I should say

[cedar spire]

you don’t need to finish to storyline on nightmare to get the waltz outfit now?

[dull heath]

pretty sure you do, but the outfit goes to all save files

[cedar spire]

gonna check cause i’ve been playing my new game+ save on nightmare

almost finished the story

[dull heath]

at that point you might aswell just finish it on nightmare to say you did it

[cedar spire]

yea i’m going to for sure

[dull heath]

i was gonna do it on my NG+ but now that it goes between saves im just gonna run through the save i already made

[jaunty tree]

hi good day, im new to the game, any idea on how to increase my damage?

[arctic river]

Like of your weapons?

[solid hamlet]

do you have the hakon crossbow from when it was free or nah

[arctic river]

That crossbow irritates me

I have two of them in my inventory and I can’t get rid of them

[solid hamlet]

btw it is a known bug where the metro station in old villdor isnt unlocked as a tp point?

[cedar spire]

can somebody please answer this for me? is it possible to buy all the weapon mods that you missed from side quests later at the craft master?

there are certain quests that give blue prints for weapon mods that i didn’t or don’t have and i’m not sure where to even find them all

[solid hamlet]

i dont believe so

youll have to look up the ones in the open world and start a ng+ for the ones in quests you missed

[cedar spire]

theres not even a guide online that explains which mods come from what quests

i don’t want to just stack my inventory with side quests looking for it either

nvm lol

you find the first half of the mods at the fish eye canteen, the rest are at the pk fortress

just found them all

[wind vine]

Just curious about this one: I saw a "feature" shown on the E3 gameplay demo in which Aiden activated a mod mid-fight. I heard that this was a redeemable item(?) back then. Can anybody shed some light on this? Looked cool, tbh.

[arctic river]

You’d have to describe what it is

Because I have no idea what you’re talking about

[waxen palm]

That's kinda still in the game but not as it was shown on e3
It's a mod that you wait a cooldown then shoot it

[spiral thicket]

That's a neat idea actually

Reminds me of DL1 trailer, where Bracken goes through the sewers and activates Electric mod on his wrench

Looked sick

[latent mortar]

Wonder what’s gonna be next weeks legendary weekly

[grizzled tartan]

how would one even recover from this

[nocturne spire]

I didnt know aidens bag could get full, nopw i got a bunch of weapons on the floor

[flat cradle]

Bros neck is gone

[limpid monolith]

just dismantle everything

i have 5k scrap and it's really not much

[flat cradle]

Man I need 600 more exp for 2nd rank of Jai

And I'll unlock me a smg

[limpid monolith]

SMG's weak

[maiden canopy]

damn it feels like cheat exchanging my trophy's for legend levels.

When you can target farm large trophy's by one shotting volotiles it's silly.

[flat cradle]

Still better than pistol

[limpid monolith]

how

[flat cradle]

Faster fire rate = more dos

Dps*

[limpid monolith]

how

i mean it works like this in SOME games

but have you tried gun challenge in Old Villedor above GRE labs?

[flat cradle]

Base pistol has 300 something damage

[flat cradle]

Not yet I'm tryna just unlock me guns

[deep pond]

Why did they change the 1.00 flashlight? It was literally perfect just needed a few tweaks and all

[limpid monolith]

Pistol can 1 head 1 body shot virals
SMG needs 3-5 precise shots in the head to down one

[limpid monolith]

Well they suck

I'd rather stick to my PK Crowssbow

[flat cradle]

Lel

[limpid monolith]

And bow for larger enemies

[flat cradle]

Don't got that one yet too

[limpid monolith]

You need to be a total Dhead to follow PKs

[maiden canopy]

just use a bow. You can 1 shot volatiles even in nightmare

[limpid monolith]

But i also followed [Some Character] who also changes the ending

just to get unique blueprint

gotta do everything right on NG+ run

[latent mortar]

Or pilgrims crossbow in the armory on pilgrims outpost

[limpid monolith]

60 is a lot

[latent mortar]

Built in blast mod

[limpid monolith]

i'd rather spend 70 on new weapons type (Ismael and Hydra)

So i could craft them into Legendaries

Also i think they should rework 100 green trophies for everything, that's too damn much
And maybe add Exotic tier to be craftable but at the same cost of 100 greens

But oh well, i should spend hours grinding boring Dark Hallows with Nests

[maiden canopy]

Nah getting green trophies is easy though. Getting blue ones however annoying.

[limpid monolith]

not really?

[latent mortar]

Got lots of trophies

[limpid monolith]

i have a smartphone (1000g)

can i have 1000 greens and 200 blues?

[maiden canopy]

Well not that I need blue or greens anymore. I already upgraded the essential things I wanted.

[latent mortar]

I’ll have to look at mine in a bit

[limpid monolith]

JK

[maiden canopy]

Also doing jay's missions allows you to get the blue trophy's also way to easily.

[limpid monolith]

I'll grind everything myself, my legend level is just 70-80

[limpid monolith]

and greens too

but they should give like 40-50 at least per mission

20 is so weak

[maiden canopy]

yup I'd say it's a waste to use them on greens, but yes it's possibly to buy greens as well.

[limpid monolith]

it's not really a waste if you're lucky like me

[languid loom]

I share my malding with you. I've got double hakon crossbows, and a bunch of double, indestructible pilgrim outpost items. I need to either cook off a bunch of legend box items or find some other workaround.

[latent mortar]

Mines from all the looting and opening presents but mostly looting corpses

[limpid monolith]

from 200 virals i got 120 greens, 50 blues and 30 purples

Oh, by the way, about the events

[maiden canopy]

there's an event?

[limpid monolith]

There's this dev menu from github or something

Can i get blueprints from it?

Including event ones

I'd really love to have nightmare claws but i can't participate in the event this autumn

[maiden canopy]

carefull idk if people are allowed to talk about using programs to unlock paid content for free.

[limpid monolith]

uh

[languid loom]

Code of Conduct, Rule 2

[limpid monolith]

it's an event item

you collect 1000 pumpkins iirc and get it for free

[maiden canopy]

some event items are sent to paid content later.

[limpid monolith]

WHY

[maiden canopy]

like hakons crossbow as an example.

[limpid monolith]

That's greedy

Everything good and fun is behind a paywall

[elfin flame]

Welcome to the world

[limpid monolith]

I wish they made more blueprints to find in the game

[maiden canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-hogwash-cdrp-gif-26805249

[limpid monolith]

like Papercutter or Military machetes

[latent mortar]

I’m just waiting for the next bundle

[languid loom]

Aren't there like 50 blueprints?

[limpid monolith]

i dunno

i forgot what's in DLC

[maiden canopy]

yea I think I did a very rough calculation but everything in the store would be around 80 bucks

[latent mortar]

Same price for me when I bought the steelbook

[limpid monolith]

i played it when it was released on a pirated vers. to get to know the game (and i'm speaking freely about it because it was like a demo to me, i did buy the best expansion there is because the game was actually good)

[languid loom]

I mean there's BPs in the main story, the job board in the various hubs, and then the easter egg BPs in the world.

[maiden canopy]

What steelbook?

[latent mortar]

The deluxe edition

[languid loom]

Steelbook is just a metal cased version of the game to hold the V1.0 disc in

[maiden canopy]

same. I don't have the physical version though.

[limpid monolith]

also how many missions are on the job board?
i only completed 5 for Sruvs and 5 for PKs

[latent mortar]

I practically have both physical and digital lol

[languid loom]

After the first batch of jobs more pop up on the board. Head on back.

[latent mortar]

Been playing this game for a very long time

[limpid monolith]

I completed the game and every possible sidequest there could be for PKs

[languid loom]

There's 3 boards too, Fish Eye, Bazaar, and Missy

[limpid monolith]

Can't do Bazaar

[maiden canopy]

btw the savage samurai bundle OP I'm 1 shotting volatiles and they keep respawning. Sooo ez.

[limpid monolith]

Bow?

[maiden canopy]

yep

[limpid monolith]

Figures

[languid loom]

Yup, you'll need to get more doing NG+ when you do the Good ending.

[maiden canopy]

Only annoying part is buying feathers.

[limpid monolith]

really?

[maiden canopy]

Finding them to only get 1 is total BS.

[limpid monolith]

i need to stick to the obvious choice to get more tasks?

Why do we even have PKs side, it's boring and i feel terrible helping them

[maiden canopy]

The pk's aren't bad.

[limpid monolith]

Juan's path is also bad

Everyone's bad but SVs

[maiden canopy]

The survivors are bad.

[limpid monolith]

But SVs are Dheads when we're in Old Villedor, i don't want to help them either

[languid loom]

gestures broadly about pre-production writing and story choices that can never be fixed regardless of updates and DLC2

[limpid monolith]

Fish Eye aren't

[maiden canopy]

They seem to want to be smelling flowers when the world has literally ended. They are essentially peaceful renegades.

[limpid monolith]

Why can't we choose Renegades from the start

[languid loom]

gestures broadly about pre-production writing and story choices that can never be fixed regardless of updates and DLC2

[limpid monolith]

I'd like to work for Colonel (so Waltz wouldn't know) from the start

But not help Juan

[maiden canopy]

facts. This would be the "good" choice.

[limpid monolith]

I mean, THE RENEGADES are bad, they're Waltz' people. But Colonel's ARMY MEN (they even look cool in their outfit) are good people

[maiden canopy]

At least the PK's want to bring order, reason, law to the chaos they even go out of their to police and help others in need. What happens at the beginning of the game when you meet the survivors?

https://tenor.com/view/akiho-senomiya-robotics-notes-sciadv-gif-22343810

[limpid monolith]

Have you played Juan's path?

[languid loom]

Dang shame they nipped that storyline the bud.

[mossy crane]

Which is better to use an AR or pk crossbow

[limpid monolith]

Juan uncovers dark secrets about PKs and their leader.

[limpid monolith]

Crossbow, duh

Silent + accurate + tons of dmg

[mossy crane]

Just wanted to make sure i came back after a while to the game and seems like they added guns and stuffs

[limpid monolith]

you can craft ammo instead of searching for it

[languid loom]

Gun make noise, Noise bring horde, Ammo all gone, Swing your sword

[maiden canopy]

crossbow.

[limpid monolith]

you can buy ammo from Jay but it's too expensive

they're like, "Last resort"

and only the Gold ones

[languid loom]

Yeah, just wander around during the day until you find some armored biters wearing gold gear

[maiden canopy]

I'm actually considering doing the witch faction to get arrow bundles.

[limpid monolith]

just stick to PKs crossbow

Shen's Crossbow requires unique bolts you can't even craft

[languid loom]

It's kinda wild that the PK crossbow is better than Hakon's and the Pilgrim's.

[limpid monolith]

easy to get, too

[languid loom]

Honestly if that was tucked away in the Jaun storyline instead of flipping zones over I would love that.

[limpid monolith]

leave major choices for SV for good ending but cap everything else for PKs and you only need 4

[mossy crane]

True it’s better to use when ur making ur last stand lmao

[limpid monolith]

What could renegades possibly give us though?

[fresh vault]

they give us poky things

[languid loom]

A "requisitioned" PK crossbow

[limpid monolith]

New armor class, Tax income

[limpid monolith]

Or even better, guns, instrad of Jay

"Colonel's personal stash is open to you because you helped us, good job, here's some OP pistol and a sniper rifle which aren't a reused assets"

but we can't have cool story design with a lot of choices
back in E3 i think you could actually work with Colonel

[languid loom]

I mean of course they will be, touch up the meshes, do a pass on the textures, flip them from DL1

[flat cradle]

Huuh

What pistol and sniper

[languid loom]

Conjecture and speculation

[mossy crane]

What type of bolt is best against zombies

[languid loom]

Not real

[flat cradle]

Sad

[languid loom]

the one you manage to put in their skull

[limpid monolith]

1911 is aesthetic and balanced, it has 8 in mag and tons of .45 dmg
And a rifle with a sniper scope i sunno

[limpid monolith]

Normal

Just shoot the head lol

[flat cradle]

R those in game tho or not yet and if he's how unlock

[languid loom]

Aren't the bleed and impact the other other bolts worth considering?

[limpid monolith]

I'm just dreaming of a better design, they're not in the game

[flat cradle]

Sad they r not in game

[limpid monolith]

Also where are our Uzi's and Revolvers?

There were THREE types of revolvers for DL1

(four if we count the bounty one)

[limpid monolith]

Exactly

[maiden canopy]

I need some info. How many arrows do you get at the huntress when you use your points to the arrow bundle?

[flat cradle]

Imagine a barret .50

[limpid monolith]

Even "Scorpio" is behind the anniversary event which sucks because they should make more of these transformers weapons FOR FREE

[languid loom]

locked away in a future paid package or some event that'll be miserable to grind out

[tropic jungle]

Imagine you guys go play a shooter and not a zombie melee focused game

[flat cradle]

Redux rifle behind a paywall

[limpid monolith]

You'll have like 10 working bullets across entire world but here in Villedor there will be only one

[flat cradle]

Loll

[limpid monolith]

Guess where you'll spend it

[flat cradle]

And that will be

Rifle rounds

[limpid monolith]

To kill a viral because some NPC or story-related character suddenly become too weak and couldn't fight back against some basic viral

[languid loom]

I mean the first game does devolve into gunplay pretty fast.

[limpid monolith]

Based story design

[flat cradle]

Real

[limpid monolith]

Imagine guns actually being a "Last resort" type of weapon isntead of just being weak and having tons of ammo on you for entire game

It's like an ultimate from Dead Island

[flat cradle]

Ngl

[languid loom]

The burden of the writing team is heavy. We should engage in discourse about their choices without ever fully know why the story ended up the way it is.

[flat cradle]

The dl2 should have attachments for guns like in dl1

[limpid monolith]

There are none?..

[flat cradle]

There are tho?

[limpid monolith]

No?

[flat cradle]

I swear I had a suppressed pistol in dl1

[limpid monolith]

You can't do anything with them

They're from DLCs, obviously

[flat cradle]

And I was able to use subsonic ammo too

[limpid monolith]

And a suppressed fvckin Desert Eagle

[flat cradle]

Oh well

[flat cradle]

W

[limpid monolith]

Well that's based but the bounty is so boring

[flat cradle]

Tru

[languid loom]

Yeah, the first iteration of "suppressed guns" in DL1 required the special ammo, but later DLC and stuff didn't need the fancy bullets.

[limpid monolith]

Also these "subsonic ammo" are just a rubber ammo iirc, non-lethal but because zombie's flesh is rotten you deal actual damage with it and it kills them

[flat cradle]

Na

[limpid monolith]

I don't really remember

[flat cradle]

Subsonic are normal rounds just going below breaking point of the sound barrier

IG less gunpowder might be the thing

[limpid monolith]

So police in Harran all running with subsonic ammo?

because day-one patch you could only find it in their big trucks

[flat cradle]

IG so

[limpid monolith]

funny

[flat cradle]

I mean killing zombies with rubber pellets wouldn't have any sense

[limpid monolith]

well i think they should add RPGs from DL1

[flat cradle]

Subsonic ammo is just normal ammo that doesn't break the sound barrier

[limpid monolith]

in DL2 for free

[flat cradle]

Real

[limpid monolith]

in some DLC2 or something

[flat cradle]

It should deal 10k dmg

[limpid monolith]

nah bro that's not much

100K and gave a radius of a 10/10 upgrade grenade

[flat cradle]

Fuck it 5 mil dmg

[limpid monolith]

which fvcking kills me 10m away

no grenades explode in 10m radius

it's their shrapnel which flies around, not the explosion itself

[flat cradle]

True

[limpid monolith]

and it travels for 30m or further

[languid loom]

I would love some easter egg weapons that just are totally unusable except for memes like that

[flat cradle]

Normal grenades don't have much radius anyway it's the pineapple shape that blasts the shrapnel to like 50 feet away

[limpid monolith]

10/10 grenade upgrade is a joke

[flat cradle]

U have 1 weapon but I forgor how it's called

[limpid monolith]

2k dmg 10-15m radius so you could barely kill as viral on Nightmarw but definitely down yourself on the other side of the room

[languid loom]

Yo dog, we heard you like grenades, so we put more grenades inside your grenade.

[flat cradle]

Real

[limpid monolith]

Casset grenades would be so much fun

[flat cradle]

Cluster grenade

[limpid monolith]

With different elements

[flat cradle]

Imagine this

[limpid monolith]

Based

[cedar spire]

i’ve blown myself up so many times with cluster nades

[flat cradle]

You throw 1 casset or cluster and you throw whole table of elements on the zombie's

Uranium, plutonium etc.

[limpid monolith]

The THV itself

[cedar spire]

legend levels boost nade dmg as well

[flat cradle]

Imagine

[cedar spire]

makes grenades op

[limpid monolith]

OP in what scenarios?

[cedar spire]

when you need to clear areas of enemies

[limpid monolith]

to kill self instantly with 700 HP, 70 armor and a dmg reducing booster?

[cedar spire]

metro stations, wind mills, buildings, etc

[languid loom]

Or if you have the BP, the dynamite bundle. God that thing is a personal hazard

The radius is huge and the damage before the legend level upgrades can oneshot you

[flat cradle]

NGL the tactical stamina is a pain

[cedar spire]

i should have made a clip but earlier i cleared a wind mill with nades by standing from the top and all the renegades went flying

[limpid monolith]

brb in a hour or two

[languid loom]

You doing Nightmare?

[cedar spire]

nightmare is ez

we need aberrant game mode next

lmao

[flat cradle]

Not rn farming the jai guy for guns then I'm doing nightmare

[languid loom]

[cedar spire]

do runs on nightmare

[languid loom]

You're in for a treat

[cedar spire]

stack up halloween boosters and it’s not so bad

[flat cradle]

I have 10 trick or treats

[cedar spire]

i mean the ones that are like breath of whatever blood

they’re consumables

[flat cradle]

Ye

I have 10 trick or treat bars

[cedar spire]

also i highly recommend collecting all the base game inhibitors before playing on nightmare mode

[cedar spire]

nice

idk what that is but i thought they were just tokens

[flat cradle]

Yeah naah that shi too hard to find all of em

[cedar spire]

it’s really not that bad

the biggest struggle is finding the last one lmao

[flat cradle]

I finished my 1st playthru on lvl 4 at 28 hours

[cedar spire]

yea you must have basically skipped all the dialogue

[light basalt]

wih dlc1 and tolga and fatin finished ?

[flat cradle]

Mostly

[light basalt]

if so do a ng+

[cedar spire]

ng+ story matters more

[flat cradle]

Nah didnt do Carnage hall and tolga and fatin

[cedar spire]

i’m still skipping most of it but i’m getting the ending i want this time

[light basalt]

then finish those too

[flat cradle]

I did do full carnage hall on my Ng+

[cedar spire]

nice

anyone else go for the renegade ending?

that’s what i’m doing on my ng+ lol

[flat cradle]

Huh

[cedar spire]

but this time i’m saving aitor and lawan

[cedar spire]

there’s a “secret” ending if you side with juan

the renegades take over the city and then you get the renegade load screen

which is the best looking one imo

[mossy crane]

Can i still claim the 500 free dl points?? Or is it too late now

[flat cradle]

Wait when can I meet juan

[cedar spire]

you have to side with him in the welcome on board quest

[light basalt]

guys checkout the poll i created in Dl2-Spoilers

[flat cradle]

Is it before fish eye or afrr

[cedar spire]

it’s the part of the game when you get to the pk fortress

and meet jack matt

[flat cradle]

Ok so after fish eye

[cedar spire]

yes

[light basalt]

bro do you have death wish ?

[cedar spire]

not really lol

i just want the coolest load screen

[light basalt]

then dont send those stuff in here

[cedar spire]

?? what did i send

[light basalt]

some spoilers i just want you to be safe

[cedar spire]

i didn’t spoil anything lmao

[flat cradle]

True

I'm already on Ng+

[light basalt]

they dont care much

they will warn your ass if you do it i jjust wanted to help a little

[cedar spire]

there are 3 separate endings to DL2 and anybody who plays the game should know that

don’t play moderator for them please

we gucci

[light basalt]

bro i just wanted to help you if you dc then idc

[latent mortar]

Hello nocturnal Enso Katana

[cedar spire]

lol

[light basalt]

the funny thing is i dont use nocturnal weapons

[flat cradle]

I did 1

Gonna go for renegade too ig

[worthy sigil]

Persons of Interest Quiz, I answered Dodger, Thalia , Her father, and no the fourth question, and keep saying try next time, is that a bug?

[latent mortar]

8% immunity drain when taking DMG
+82% increased DMG to volatiles, tyrants and hives at night
+73% increased power attack DMG at night

[cedar spire]

i wish i could show you an ss of the load screen. basically renegade flags with a view of villedor in the background

[flat cradle]

Damn sounds epic

[cedar spire]

hold on i’ll send it in dms

[flat cradle]

Aight

[tropic jungle]

No,you have to do the carries sidequest

Carriers*

[worthy sigil]

how to take it, map show exclamation mark

[mossy crane]

How to perform more finishers mid fight like what triggers them

[worthy sigil]

and there hv a old man say am I ready

[limpid monolith]

You're gonna learn a lot about PKs dark side.

[limpid monolith]

Low stamina

You can increase stamina damage you're dealing in Legend skills

[mossy crane]

Ty

I think the reason i never see it is because i one or two shot everything except volatiles and goons

[limpid monolith]

Yes and you can't finish Volatiles (a shame)

[mossy crane]

Would have been cool and satisfying to finish them

[limpid monolith]

But it'd require them stunned + low health

Exotic weapons + Frost/Blast stun large enemies

Would be epico

[mossy crane]

True true

I use frost and blast on all my weapons

[limpid monolith]

Bleed+Frost to take down everyone large

Everyone else is being oneshotted anyway

[mossy crane]

How do we get bleed??

[limpid monolith]

Slash

[mossy crane]

Ahh slash so anything sharp applies bleed?

[limpid monolith]

Increases chances to dismember + status dmg over time

[limpid monolith]

Nah, it's a tip mod

Shaft mod is a blasting one (a shame, I can't have a bleed applying knives)

[mossy crane]

I gotta check that real quick idk for how long i have been avoiding that💀

[limpid monolith]

Blast Knives are fun though, they look like little hammers because of Blast mod model

They should really rework mods look and add more of them

[mossy crane]

I used frost+fling on my machete worked pretty good against volatiles

[limpid monolith]

DL1 bleed mod looked epic, literally a blade

DL2 bleed mod is weak, just two small metal pieces that look like teeth

[mossy crane]

😂😂😂😂

[limpid monolith]

[rough wedge]

[limpid monolith]

i hate DL2 designes sometimes

[mossy crane]

Shall i switch from fling +frost to bleed and frost for my machete against volatiles??

[limpid monolith]

Bleed is good because bonus dmg over time

You can find legendary encounters once you finished the game

They're mostly Goons and Demolishers, but sometimes it's just black Volatiles and they're really tough (because they're lvl9)

[latent mortar]

Bloody hell im shaking…

[limpid monolith]

Is Crane knocking on your door or something?

typo

[mossy crane]

I encountered the black volatile before was a pain in ass

[latent mortar]

Just roaming in the night hunting down encounter and this fucking violent thunderclap shook the whole damn house scaring the crap out of me

[tall pulsar]

hello fellow dying lighters

[limpid monolith]

Black is just a visual

Tyrants are a pain

[latent mortar]

It was quiet too and just BOOM

[limpid monolith]

Quicker, Tougher, new attacks

[tall pulsar]

holy shit hope you're okay

[latent mortar]

I’m alright it was out of nowhere

[mossy crane]

True true

[limpid monolith]

Guys i think grandpa Bozak DLC2 would be epic

[tall pulsar]

now add this to dl2 and make it 0.01% that aiden gets struck by lightning

[mossy crane]

Also whenever i use this dlc gun i see myself getting more electric shocks

[latent mortar]

That might’ve been the most violent thunderclap I’ve heard in my life

[latent mortar]

Volkatronix?

[mossy crane]

Yesss

[limpid monolith]

Speaking of electric shocks, what causes them if I don't have any electric mod on me?

it just triggers, why?

[mossy crane]

Is there an electrical zombie in disguise?

[tall pulsar]

maybe electrical zombies

[limpid monolith]

they're a thing?

[tall pulsar]

yeah

[latent mortar]

This is the Volkatronix so it’s a shock assault rifle I think made by Volkan Co I believe??

[limpid monolith]

they hit both nearby zombies and me

[tall pulsar]

the ones in blue salopettes

[limpid monolith]

i wasn't talking about it

[tall pulsar]

yeah, you either need to aim for their head or just use a ranged weapon so you dont get affected by the electric shock

[latent mortar]

There’s also viral ones

[tall pulsar]

yeah this, they're both biters and virals like that

[mossy crane]

Does the legendary gear make any difference the dlc ones

[limpid monolith]

thank god there are no frost ones

[latent mortar]

Tho the viral versions seems to be pretty rare now

[mossy crane]

I just use the ones i got from legend chests

[latent mortar]

Well there’s the first hazmat but it doesn’t affect you which is weird

[tall pulsar]

yeah

[limpid monolith]

Also i got hit by a Lvl9 Renegade with a toxic mod on his weapon
God the status lasts long and deals a lot of damage, now i feel them.

[tall pulsar]

the fire ones affect you tho

[latent mortar]

Hopefully we’ll see more modded renegades using the bleeding, blast and frost

[limpid monolith]

Hopefully there will be Rebegades with guns

Stash is open after all, and there are more of them probably

[mossy crane]

Imagine renegades drop kicking u

[limpid monolith]

Some assasin type of Renegade

Executing parkour skills on you, has a grapple hook and can climb as fast as you

[mossy crane]

Imagine they pull u towards them with their grappling hook and smash ur head

[limpid monolith]

Using some knife (fast attacks with jumps) or something blunt with frost/fling on it

[limpid monolith]

Exactly

Now that's a challenge, instead of simply increasing their health and damage

We need to turn DL2 into a DS series

[mossy crane]

I love the grappling hook feature of pulling zombies closer gives the mk scorpion vibes

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-scorpion-get-over-here-mk11-mortal-kombat11-gif-17129778

[limpid monolith]

i love how devs nerf everything fun

like old hook

[mossy crane]

Old hook legit made u batman

[rough wedge]

[limpid monolith]

Old hook legit was DL1 nostalgia

i wish this game had flashbangs and i could flash self

[late widget]

It is approved 👍

[unreal violet]

Hell yeah, bring them back.

[obtuse fox]

i was so sad they nerfed it

no more climbing wherever you want to

[tall pulsar]

you can still climb whenever you want, it's just a bit harder now.

cus the hook gets you to a certain point until it stops climbing you up, so you need to chill in a space for a few seconds, then do it again.

idk i just find it much more interesting than the dl1 hook

[glossy perch]

"omae wa mo shindeiru"

[tall pulsar]

not everything has to be copy pasted from the first game, and it genuinely provides more variety to the parkour gameplay

[obtuse fox]

i like it in dl2 more too

but idk i just liked the fact that i could climb wherever i wanted with ease

[tall pulsar]

yeah i get that

it's a preference thing, after all

[charred schooner]

a

@verbal copper I have too much slowmode in #💻︱lfg-dl2-pc
I wanted to ask, does damage increase with level?

[verbal copper]

yes it does

[charred schooner]

Ohhh, okay. I need to be high level then, sadge

[verbal copper]

if you put points in your legend levels

I'm sure if I maxed my levels it would be around 2000 damage

[charred schooner]

I'm actually not max level I doesn't unlocked legend levels🤣

[verbal copper]

You have a ways to go before you get a good katana then

best you can do is level up Harper

you get xp and Harper points that way

[charred schooner]

By making contracts?

[flat cradle]

Any1 can help me with Jai missions?

[verbal copper]

yes, do his bounties

[charred schooner]

Okay

[ashen needle]

still waiting for an email about my ideas even getting to voting or not

[flat cradle]

Who can help me do Jai missions tr

Fr and the pilgrim board

[verbal copper]

ask in the xbox channel

[flat cradle]

It's dead as fuck

[verbal copper]

Still, it's the place to ask

not here

[limpid monolith]

wow

i'm still not banned

[late widget]

what is your idea ?

[limpid monolith]

this looks so epic

[ashen needle]

i had submitted a couple, but one was "Moon Phases" that change each night which would also change how bright/dark that night is, and the other was some sort of random event that can happen for map regions where the power can go out before the night (making minor safe zones unsafe) needing the player to go to the map and locate which electrical station is having an issue and restart the power (something that can be totally ignored, but can get worse if left ignored, more regions lose power, etc)

[limpid monolith]

i have only one idea and it's to remove white T-Shirt from Carrier's Guild Elite outfit and replace it with some turtleneck because it looks ugly af
but i don't think anyone would support me since it doesn't change gameplay much

Driscoll looks fine with white T-Shirt because he has a beard and his bottom part of the jacket is looking more closed (It fits his age, he looks old in this dress but he actually is old)

[jaunty tree]

hi new player here how to increase my dmge to tanky zombies?

[limpid monolith]

Sadly, there's no % damage but you can put status dmg to keep your weapon's damage AND deal extra over time which shortens the time needed to kill them for a little but it's better than nothing

[jaunty tree]

how do i beat those zombies at night the silverbacks

[limpid monolith]

Best solo statuses are probably Toxin and Bleed, Fire is kinda meh and needed for crowd control, like Electro. They proc once and for a short period.

[limpid monolith]

Silverbacks?

[jaunty tree]

yea

[limpid monolith]

Can you describe them?

[jaunty tree]

zombies that are silver

im getting killed easily by them compare to skinny zombies

[limpid monolith]

Fast, like to jump and spit, and split chin?

Volatiles?

[jaunty tree]

yes muscular silver back zombies

[limpid monolith]

Yeah you don't beat them early

[late widget]

i like it . and that you also have to start the electricity generators in some safe spots again

[limpid monolith]

I think i was able to easily defeat them (7 hits with perfect dodges to avoid half HP/oneshot by them) when i was lvl6 and i was in Old Villedor where they were lvl2 max

[jaunty tree]

how do i know my lvl?

[limpid monolith]

It'd be much better if there were a lot of electric shields across the territories and we needed to repair them with zombies around. maybe even two of them. maybe three on Nightmare because the game should really be much harder here

[jaunty tree]

game a bit harder than dl1

[limpid monolith]

yeah you need to grind a lot

[limpid monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1195528734602711100/1232558957181141092/mega_KOT3D_-_1780942107789692976.gif

spooki

[ornate linden]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-light-dying-light2-dying-light-players-zombies-gif-24714324

[violet sky]

[ornate linden]

[tall pulsar]

[barren monolith]

Does doing a ng+ get rid of the jai stuff? was boutta do a ng+ but now im worred

[obtuse fox]

aiden pearce looking shit

[formal knot]

U have to do lost armory quest again u keep ur lvl and tokens

And ur guns

Only thing u lose is access to jai until u do his quest which is dumb tbh

[barren monolith]

oh ok thank you

[grizzled tartan]

draw me like one of your french girls ahh pose

[hollow bay]

but not real

[cursive spade]

Renegades?

[obtuse fox]

nights in dl1 scare me even after 200 hours

and in dl2 they didnt scare me at all

[copper crest]

i rly dont get the obsession on omg moon isnt moving in realtime boohoo game bad now, my immersion is ruined. When in reality, you dont even look at the sky when youre free running around.

[obtuse fox]

why is it so

[copper crest]

its not the night but what the threats that lurk in the night that scares you

and since youve been too desensitized to whatever the night has to offer, you feel dull

[tall pulsar]

because in dl2 u have much more means of escaping, you're faster, have a more diverse parkour skillset that helps you traverse and dodge much better, you also have paraglider which still helps even in nightmare when used at the right time.

[obtuse fox]

and i guess nights are bright as hell

[tall pulsar]

When it comes to fighting them on nightmare in dl2 tho, good luck

[obtuse fox]

or atleast they were

dl1 makes me shit my pants

at nighttime

[tall pulsar]

nah it's definitely not bright, maybe the moon is making it seem too bright, but when you roam on the streets now it's actually dark as hell

[tall pulsar]

as i said, you're faster, have more means of escaping and dealing with zombies now.

[rough wedge]

[tall pulsar]

it can also be the nostalgia that hits everyone since they got used to playing the first game and obv the second game wont seem as hard

but for people who played DL2 before the first game, it's prolly just as it was for us playing DL1 for the first time

[copper crest]

• players are coming in dl2 already skilled at dealing with the night so all your experience are transfered to dl2

[tall pulsar]

exactly

[copper crest]

you dont reset your brain just because you opened a different game

[obtuse fox]

i remember my first playthrough on ps4, i couldnt get the bolter kill because he just didnt spawn

so i had to go out at night very often

then some gigachad joined and finished the quest for me

and i think gave me some op weapon

this game wont get boring even after my tenth playthrough

im at my 8th playthrough rn

[tall pulsar]

dl1 or dl2?

[obtuse fox]

dl1

idk dl2 became boring after my 3rd playthrough i think

the enemy ragdoll isnt the same here

that's the main reason why it became boring

[tall pulsar]

understandable

[obtuse fox]

the atmosphere isnt the same

everything is bright n shit

[sleek perch]

Does anybody know if I can start new game+ using a new game+ save and will not lose anything?

[rough wedge]

what should I put on rose's axe?

[tall pulsar]

I'd say spark for crowd control and whatever else you want

[copper crest]

if you already did a ng+ then you know what youre gonna lose

[sleek perch]

Ik, but I'm trying to understand, I lose my current new game + save too, right?

[rough wedge]

awesome sauce

[stray sentinel]

You can have different saves for NG+ if you want. You can then choose whichever save you want to continue playing "that" save and switch at anytime between them.

[late widget]

And the flashlight is the biggest problem in DL2, unless you use mods that fix it.

[mossy crane]

Best weapon mods for crowd control??

[limpid monolith]

yeah i choose them

[formal knot]

The reason why people love dl1 tho is cause there's loads of content and icl without the following dl1 would of been mid

Dl2 is way better in gameplay but needs content asap

[tall pulsar]

dl2 can still benefit very much from both content and improved gameplay tbh

content without gameplay being good will still be mid

[random mauve]

fling + shock( anything else can go here, shock spreads as an AoE , flame can be set on multiple enemies with cleaving weapons, poison and ice both stun enemies for a few)
whatever you think looks cooler.

[mossy crane]

Ty

[limpid monolith]

guys how can i guarantee Hags to spawn in open world?

i want to complete bounties without the need to do boring and imbalanced chapters

[verbal copper]

You can't, you can throw grenades at them, that increases the spawn rate some say

but a good chance you'll kill the hag when you do

[limpid monolith]

this is dumb