🧬︱bethezombie

[noble trout]

That happened and then they called me the n word

I think their names were slightpain_iii and slighpain_ii

Yea

Dude I will play with you

[wanton kiln]

It’s unfortunate, but that’s just how it is 💁🏻‍♂️😅

[noble trout]

I'm so bad at it

[noble trout]

Lol

They have mental issues or something

[wanton kiln]

Practicing with people you know is the best way to get familiarized with it, and it’ll allow you to test out what works and what doesn’t. Just gotta put the time in

[noble trout]

Real

I don't know anyone tho

My friends are like "oh but you run from the zombies" and I'm like stfu bitch 😭

Kyle is a big strong man

[lime scaffold]

can i join?

[lime scaffold]

my friends can’t evade pounces if their life depended on it

[stone heron]

Me too

[lime scaffold]

i tried to tell them how to and they said they had tunnel vision

so i tried to tell them to use their minimap and they said no one uses that 😭

[shell echo]

Tackle is the most lethal if your teammates are new, 'cause you can't save them from it and you get knocked down if they get tackled near you.

If you do get knocked down from this Tackle shockwave, the night hunter can get a guaranteed pounce on you—it briefly UV suppresses you.

[lime scaffold]

they’re decent at tackles

just the pounce because they don’t know where the hunter is

[shell echo]

A nice strat for the situation where your teammates are getting tackled a lot is to maintain distance and double-crossbow the hunter during the recovery animation that occurs after it successfully tackles them.

Don't forget to heal the teammate to full HP (even mid-fight) if they get low and there is an opportunity to.

they’re decent at tackles
I see. Advise them to remap Survivor Sense to, like, a mouse button or something. I use mousewheel-down.

[noble trout]

Dang I can sorta

Almost

You use PC?

[lime scaffold]

yeah

controller tho

[lime scaffold]

I’ll try to do that, I don’t really have the meta loadout but I’ll get 2 crossbows.

I already have 2 crossbows, never mind.

@shell echo Wanna play with me and my friend? We wanna learn from a good player

[shell echo]

I could play with you tomorrow, maybe.

[lime scaffold]

Alright, sounds good.

@noble trout You playing BTZ rn?

[coarse cairn]

bruh when is that from 😭 🤙 ?

[noble trout]

Probably not tonight

[frigid carbon]

while ago

dude tried using super jump cheats and shit to dfa farm but still got pounced

[coarse cairn]

forgetting addin hotkeys on CT at the backstage and trying to cover how fool he is with aura maxing at jojo pose is kinda... BRUH

[coarse cairn]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dio-brando-jotaro-kujo-gNSgYzJk3Yogbl5hlm

@frigid carbon if I were u, I would to give them a taste of their own medicine. But in higer doses lol.

[shut orchid]

Damn wth

[potent pecan]

Man I need to practice dueling NH solo. Anyone there to help me?

[shell echo]

I can.

[potent pecan]

sure

I think you know by now its epic and colonel lixeer

[shell echo]

I added you.

[potent pecan]

so wanna start by invading me?

[shell echo]

Would be nice if someone could invade me so I could practice 1v1ing as well.

[fresh helm]

Yall still doing the invasions?

[potent pecan]

yup

can u invade me?

[fresh helm]

I have a level 1 hunter but like a 15 human LOL

[potent pecan]

wait ur legend is 15?

[fresh helm]

Survivor

[potent pecan]

colonel lixeer on epic if u wanna farm some DROPS

i can help u get 25 surv if u want now

[fresh helm]

I mean the leveling is fine for me

For me it's the media

Medkits

[potent pecan]

sure i have some medkits i can give and we can farm on infamy if u want

[fresh helm]

Hmm not too bad but it is late and I actually off just texting on my phone LOL

[potent pecan]

ah ic, well have a good night

[fresh helm]

You too !

[tawny night]

go under the map

simple

ez

[frigid carbon]

i won cause he was inactive in the safezone

[tawny night]

Don't invade noobs

Invade chinese box people

👍

[frigid carbon]

i get spammed with explosive bolts half way across the map

[tawny night]

They are terrible 🥱

[frigid carbon]

or it’s like the most sweatiest mfs on the planet acting like it’s their life on the line

[tawny night]

If theres one thing they all have in common, they suck at doing skillfull combos.

Or they mod

Lmao

[frigid carbon]

modders are even more braindead

[tawny night]

I know, they don't even know how to abuse them correctly

[frigid carbon]

mfs were complaining that bomber spit doesn’t affect the hunter

so it’s why they modded

[tawny night]

When I was on Playstation I defeated the most known modder with a mut 0 😭

They all are terrible

Even with modded shit

[frigid carbon]

one guy was tryna be toxic and shit spamming ez only to get killed by virals 😭

[tawny night]

This is why I play on xbox, everyone on here doesn't have acess to modded items

[frigid carbon]

fair

[tawny night]

Instead they use incel playstyles

[frigid carbon]

nah the only thing that annoys me is ppl camping on lightposts for the most obvious dfa farm

[tawny night]

camp nests or spit snipe

🤷‍♂️

[frigid carbon]

yeah toxic spit usually works

or air tackles

[tawny night]

No don't use toxins for that 😭

Thats a waste fr

[frigid carbon]

only use it for like proper noobs

[tawny night]

They can just go to another lamp post if there is toxins there

Just tlock tem

[frigid carbon]

true

[fresh helm]

Anyone tryna invade me ?

[shell echo]

Sure.

[fresh helm]

Fasho

Uh

How do I give you my like stuff to invade me i don't know how that works

[shell echo]

Do you play on Steam or Epic Games?

[fresh helm]

Steam

[shell echo]

I will DM you my friend code. You can use it to add me.

[fresh helm]

Ok

[potent pecan]

Since we didn't have a time to play yesterday do you wanna play together as well?

[fresh helm]

Holy smokes😭I highkey got off but play as two humans or ?

[shell echo]

UV spit-snipe is just fine for that.

[frigid carbon]

yeah

[grim mural]

Holy this channel is back?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811289021803921458/1097619243400433714/crane_basketball.gif

[tawny night]

platform

?

[fresh helm]

Steam

[tawny night]

I don't play on pc anymore unfortunately

I play on Xbox

[wanton kiln]

Everyone wants to be invaded, no one wants to be the invader I wonder why 😂

[shell echo]

Currently, a major reason I favor being invaded is because I have more to learn as a human. I have more hours in hunter.

[tawny night]

I'll gladly invade anyone here

Im a very experienced hunter but if someone is on a totally different platform then idk

[plush sequoia]

Because being a night hunter fucking sucks

And you get rewards for winning as a human

[wanton kiln]

Exactly

People like to pretend that’s not the case but that’s reality, sure there will be very few who want to be the invader but most want to be invaded

[plush sequoia]

It ain't fun because people don't make it fun

Every player has an infinite ammo shotgun or insta killing nest flares or some glitched shit

[wanton kiln]

I’ve said the same thing and so many people jump to try and say that’s not true yet I’ve seen it with my own eyes so many times and played it myself

[coarse cairn]

at this point u need to backfire with what they used 😼 (not recommended btw)

[plush sequoia]

Then I would be just as low as them

[coarse cairn]

yeah that's true, but they are not play in fair ways soo

dunno

[frigid carbon]

i just play in the most obnoxious ways to deal with them

[shell echo]

The ones that have modded shotguns and insta-nest-killing flares are usually still easy to beat. xd
I've also bodied people that are using auto-evade (which makes every tackle and pounce fail no matter what)—GP, claw, bombers & toxic spit are still options.

What triggers me is if they insta all the nests at once so there isn't even a fight.

[frigid carbon]

modded shotgunners start panicking with bomber spit

they will shoot them at point blank if anything so its relatively easy to kill them

[tawny night]

No

Being night hunter is easy

People with like 11 hours on the game shouldn't be saying this until they fully learned the flow of playing night hunter

Both sides are broken

[plush sequoia]

Glad I have 200 hours as night hunter then

Don't plan on playing it more though

Course I'm still not really good at it, I prefer to play human

[pallid hornet]

anyone wants to invade me and my friend?

[abstract path]

Sorry but that’s just a lie

Being the hunter is way harder

Yeah it is balanced

A pro hunter is as good as pro human

But starting as hunter is extremely hard, I remember my first couple of games

[fair phoenix]

Holy crap its Albert Wesker

[abstract path]

Yeah, rumbling around servers looking for Chris

[fair phoenix]

Oh damn does he know?

[abstract path]

No

It’s a secret plan

To release UROBOROUS

[fair phoenix]

[abstract path]

Seriously though, I’m just a dbd wesker main (and a huge re movies enjoyer)

And also one of the best Xbox hunters I think

At least I haven’t met many better ones

[fair phoenix]

Oh nice! I played DBD before and Wesker was fun to play.

[abstract path]

Yeah I played him… a bit (the 26 is days)

Wait da hell?

What happened to the screenshot

That’s better

[sweet kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-redfield-gif-27694322

Haha oop wrong gif eh whateva

Welcome back RE

[abstract path]

NO

I despise you

[sweet kelp]

[fair phoenix]

Chris with his watermelon arms

[sweet kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-redfield-gif-11540871

https://tenor.com/view/chris-redfield-panda-chris-redfield-on-a-panda-chris-redfield-panda-resident-evil-gif-12213202633870545969

[fair phoenix]

Man now I wanna play RE5 again

[coarse cairn]

May I ask what is this?

Oh wait just a SS?

Bruh

[abstract path]

Yeah idk why it turned into this thing either

It’s a regular screenshot

[coarse cairn]

made by UMBRELLA CORP....

[ocean laurel]

Ontopic.

[tawny night]

No, if you don't understand the flow of being a night hunter then you can't say this

[south tapir]

I wonder if that double Hunter glitch is still around

[shell echo]

Did you witness this glitch on console?

[south tapir]

Not yet

[shell echo]

Then it's probably just people using cheats.

[abstract path]

I understand the flow now

But starting the night hunter is extremely hard

It took me like 12hrs just to understand what to do

[tawny night]

Just gp spit tlock fr 🥱

Thats how I beat everyone on console

[abstract path]

Now I know

Still I lose sometimes bc I get 4 humans using the flying glitch to infinitely dfa me

[tawny night]

Who still goes for that 😭

Legit never see anyone do the spaz glitch anymore

Wtf

[abstract path]

People on console

[tawny night]

Whats ur gtag?

Do you play on xbox

[abstract path]

Yeah

I havent played to mode in like 3months though

[tawny night]

Whats your user, I've probably fought you?

[abstract path]

So if you’d like to 1v1 I’d love to but I can suck

[abstract path]

DandiestCloth63

[tawny night]

Yeah never seen you

Alt account?

[abstract path]

None…

Well maybe you had no luck with the matchmaking

[tawny night]

Yeah I was on today and literally not on single person was able to beat my hunter 😭

Even with the event

[abstract path]

Also I nearly never play human so idk how to oneshot nests like they do. Does anybody have an idea or is it a glitch?

[tawny night]

They use throwing stars

[abstract path]

Ohhhh

Ok

Thx

[tawny night]

I personally don't use throwing stars since I use preset 2 and I can just throw my heavy

🤷‍♂️

I don't care if people use them

Idk why people complain about it still

[tawny night]

Burning stars*

[abstract path]

I’ve had a friend try this on me (max level legend btw) they lost their best weapons and died 10 times

[tawny night]

I mean like if you are on tomorrow you can invade me

I dont get good hunters

The only good people I fight are my friends

weird ass wall tackle

jus like this

just gotta hug the wall

❤️

[abstract path]

I’m a spit-pounce type of guy

From what I noticed there are two types of hunters with 2 subtypes

1. Tackle+ground pound 2. Pouncer subtypes 1. Spitspammer 2. Waiting for double spits to ground pound

[tawny night]

Are you sure you have over 12k hours

No hate

Not everyone uh learns quickly

[abstract path]

12k

No

I never claimed that

[tawny night]

Okay

[abstract path]

12

Not 12k

I have like 500 on Hunter

[tawny night]

I have a uh

Condition

Sorry

Synesthesia '

😭

[abstract path]

Wait

What is it

Bc I don’t know its name in English

But i have a one that’s very similar in spelling in Polish

[tawny night]

Where my brain literally will read something as something else.

[abstract path]

Isn’t that like

[tawny night]

HPPD association

[abstract path]

Dyslexia?

[tawny night]

Yes kind of

anticholinergic toxicity

[abstract path]

Oh it’s literally in your about me

[tawny night]

Yes

I have cognitive issues from abusing Benadryl recreationally long term

[abstract path]

Well mine’s a chaos

It’s mostly about wesky and dbd

And HK

Death you’ve been typing for 20mins now

Can you just click send?

[tawny night]

Lmaoo chill

[abstract path]

I am

[shell echo]

The car one? That one is easy to counter, generally. Sprint, look up, keep Tackle held down.

Tangentially, at least on PC, if you successfully Tackle someone on the ground and you suspect someone else will try to DFA you before you can move, you can stay completely still and just hold E to extend your DFA immunity.

This works on controller, too, right, @tawny night ? Tackle is just Crouch on controller, iirc.

[shell echo]

20 mins? I stopped typing, like, 10-20 mins ago in order to search for a vid. If Discord kept saying I was typing...

[tawny night]

I thought he was talking about the spaz glitch ngl

Not the car launch

The thing where you go flying in the air with ur grapple hook

Yk what I mean

[shell echo]

I think I have accidentally done that one.

[abstract path]

Idk what the difference is

[tawny night]

You grapple backwards and then grapple a zombie

And you'll go flying

Only way to get rid of it is to take damage

[abstract path]

They used some tower for it

And then they were flying around the whole old city

[tawny night]

Yeah its the spaz glitch

[shell echo]

I see.

[tawny night]

Or they are abusing the infinite grapple

It has extended rage

[tawny night]

best 2026 gp spitter 💔 😭

[abstract path]

Ok…

You’re better than me

By a lot lol

[tawny night]

Takes a lot of time to get good

You can invade me tomorrow, my user on Xbox is OrigamiIXZ

If you see that in matchmaking you can join

[abstract path]

Not tommorow, I’m up in the mountains

But I have two weeks afterwards

[abstract path]

It’s better if we add each other first

Then it’s guaranteed nobody beats me to it

[fair phoenix]

Is it worth turning invasions on from the get-go or wait? I'm pretty much fresh out of the prologue.

Or will I just be an easy farm

[shell echo]

The matchmaking is ELO-based. At first, the night hunters most likely to invade you will be brand new night hunters with little-to-no abilities. Totally fightable for a beginner. Do what you want.

[solid crag]

you'll be an easy farm still tho

[fair phoenix]

Alrighty thanks guys

[shell echo]

Pfft. New night hunters are really easy to evade.

Just Survivor Sense often and UV, they can barely do anything. If they start tackling, it'll prob be predictable straight tackles without tendril-sprinting.

[solid crag]

bro idrc he js finished the prologue so he's got nowt to work with

legit just uv and pipes

[shell echo]

Anyone want to invade 2 people on PC?

[solid crag]

i'll play survivor if you want

[shell echo]

I currently prefer 2v1 and I already have a partner. Hunter's fat in 3v1 and 4v1.

One thing we sometimes do, though, is we get a third person and we take turns playing as the hunter.

[solid crag]

no i'll pass i dont play hunter and if you cba to have 3 survivors i'll pass

[shell echo]

Do you like to 1v1 night hunters?

[solid crag]

I don’t pvp

[storm minnow]

Alguém pode me ajudar, não consigo entrar mais no dying The Following

[wanton kiln]

This is an English Channel, if you go to “channels and Roles” you’ll find the other language channels

[frigid carbon]

new bird

[fair phoenix]

Lol

[tawny night]

🔥

[coarse cairn]

CAPS AAAH LOCK

[plush sequoia]

I played btz again

And got my ass wiped by an apex predator

[rancid shale]

Bro them gps and spits will get you

[plush sequoia]

I don't see any fucking tutorial on how to get good but it seems that everyone is the best

[tall briar]

Bro it's an 11 years old game mode, most of the people who still play this game are those who have years of experience

[fair phoenix]

Dont be discouraged. You wont get better if you dont keep at it.

I say this but I'll probably cry when I meet my first hunter.

[shell echo]

Fouadix made 3 comprehensive YouTube tutorials on how to play as the night hunter. He said he'll do tutorials on human, eventually.

But, for human, you generally just have to watch videos from pro players (Mertra, Kaiyoo, Fokus2EZ, yrodrigoowyt etc).

The few human tutorials that exist usually mostly say stuff that's obvious whilst leaving out a lot of unintuitive, advanced techniques and useful tips.

-# [SIDENOTE]: I think I fought everyone in that parenthesized list except Kaiyoo, unless a name-change occurred. Lol.

[plush sequoia]

My main problem is getting my camera broken by the night hunter and getting pounced for it

This is why I want an fov slider on console so I can actually see

[shell echo]

Yeah, you just have to get used to that. I used to get straight pounced a lot as a beginner, but I was playing on controller on PC, so-

• Put a high FOV in C:/users/%username%/documents/dyinglight/out/settings/video.scr so it's easier to keep track of the night hunter when it's beside you.
• Adjust your sensitivity so you can turn fast enough.

Oh, console. Yeah, the first bullet point is not possible.

[plush sequoia]

Yeah I'm hoping one day I'll get a pc so I can stop dealing with console bullshit

[shell echo]

Apparently, PC's more active than PlayStation, anyway.

[shell echo]

Due to ELO-based matchmaking, you'll prob initially get invaded by some low-level Walker that doesn't know how to cancel Ground Pound. In which case, as long as you Survivor Sense frequently, UV, slice and dodge away from spits, you'll probably wreck it.

I use mousewheel-down for Survivor Sense, personally.

[fair phoenix]

Ooh okay

[paper kernel]

Yo if anyone’s on switch please invade me

#🧬︱bethezombie

[shell echo]

So, you said you don't PvP, but, earlier, you were interested in 3v1ing.
Were you just bored at that particular time or are you presently only willing to try out team battles?

[solid crag]

i dont play the zombie and I js wanted to pvp is it easy to understand?

[shell echo]

It's contradictory if, as it would for some people, the "I don't pvp" implies disinterest in PvPing, but 'kay.

I'll be open to trying larger team battles soon. I was just not up for dealing how tanky and UV-resistant the hunter is when there are lots of humans.

[paper kernel]

Hey dream girl on switch or whatever your dumb ah name is stop hiding under the map and shooting at me for over an hour waiting for me to leave the game. Play the game or turn off zombie invasions

[mental hinge]

We need be the zombie in dl2 this is ridiculous the games dying already

[simple yoke]

someone know why it always show me noob lobbies ?

mostly

[shell echo]

Because your ELO is low. New save file? Did you do many 1v1s with a friend whose chance of winning is higher than yours?

[simple yoke]

is that bc my title is "runner" ?

yea i think i get it now

i only won 3 matchs

thanks for the answer anyways

i guess that apply to humans too

i tought it was bc of story mode or idk

[shell echo]

I made this table just for you.

Runner is basically new, yeah.

[simple yoke]

alright thank you

[shell echo]

If you're getting bored and want to fight experienced players, you can try invading the ones that have low (yellow) matching. For the hunter, "matching" is based off how close the opponents' ELO is to yours.

The problem is: in the list, sessions with significantly lower ELO are lumped together with ones that have significantly higher ELO. Though, at the very least, if you're invading the latter, you'll be shown a confirmation dialog that says "these players are more skilled than you" (or something).

If you haven't done a lot of matches, yellow matching will usually be due to their ELO being higher than yours. I used to invade higher-ELO people a lot when I started, 'cause I learned faster from them.

[simple yoke]

OHHH I TOUGHT IT WAS THE WIFI

THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION

[shell echo]

lmao

[simple yoke]

and what can i do

if i want peoples to invade me

[shell echo]

Just load up a human save, pause, open online settings, set zombie invasions to anytime (this lets night hunters invade even if it's day time—the game will rapidly shift to night time when they join the session).

[simple yoke]

i see

any specific maps that bring more invasions or idk ?

[shell echo]

One more tip:
You can disable human co-ops so that humans cannot join (any humans already in the session still remain). If invasions are enabled, hunters can still join. This is nice if you only want to 1v1 night hunters (or only do team battles with friends). Hunters do get stronger and tankier when there are more humans.

[simple yoke]

ohh ok

[shell echo]

Lots of experienced hunters purport to favor Old Town. Though, personally, my invasion rate does not differ between Old Town and Slums.

[simple yoke]

i see

how much invasions do u get

in a day

?

approximatively

[shell echo]

Um, it depends on the day. Lately, it's been low—like, maybe one an hour or even less than that. Several weeks ago, I was getting invaded after waiting for only 5 minutes or something.

[simple yoke]

o ok

[shell echo]

Tangentially, if you've repeatedly invaded lot of the same people as a hunter, that can increase your likelihood of being invaded, 'cause, when they go to play hunter, they might remember you and want to see what your human is like.

[simple yoke]

yea ive tought about that too lol

[shell echo]

I'm more likely to invade people if I notice they've invaded me a lot in the past. xd

[simple yoke]

lol

[shell echo]

So, like, recently, due to low invasion frequency, my friends and I would assemble a group of 3 players and we'd take turns being the hunter in friend-only 2v1s. That's a nice way to avoid waiting forever, if you don't have much time.

[simple yoke]

I SEE

caps

i had a hunter invasion like 4 hours ago

but i left bc i wanted to finish a quest

and now i regret ☠️

[shell echo]

Aw.

[simple yoke]

ima just invade peoples as zombies its fine

and once there is more players i go as human

okay lets do some 4V1

and of course i cant join

i try to teach new players how to fight agaisnt hunter

but they just hit me

or throw stuff at me

[shell echo]

If you want a teammate or invader on PC, you can ask/add me.
I'd say my human (Dominant Ruthless) is intermediate.
I'd say my hunter (Apex Predator) is also intermediate, but more competent than my human.

[simple yoke]

added

i still prefer to fight random persons tho

OKAY GOOD

THIS GUY IS LEVEL 250

nice

[shell echo]

I see. Though, the perks of playing with friends:

• no wait time
• no cheating (unless the friend is a weirdo)

I typically favor being invaded by random night hunters while having friends as teammates.

[simple yoke]

yea

i remember having so fun with invasions on ps4

[craggy pike]

can i join?

[simple yoke]

sure i guess

im going to school rn tho

[royal sinew]

Made some hunter keychains, they just lack the string

[hearty apex]

anyone wanna invade or play btz

[shell echo]

Idk if you're still playing, but my friend and I currently need a night hunter to invade us.

Oh, PlayStation. Nevermind. PC-only.

[fresh spindle]

1 hour and no hunters

[shut orchid]

Teamwork

[fair phoenix]

Daaaamn

[limpid vector]

omm i cnat ifnd no hunters

[shell echo]

For real. Invasion frequency's been low. A third friend joined and we took turns being hunter.

I play both human and hunter. Want to add me so we can invite each other in the future?

[fresh spindle]

Okay, I only have 209 hours, but that's fine.

My friend code is:1070953085

[fresh spindle]

How do you send videos?

[shell echo]

I have 280-ish in night hunter and probably 200-ish in PvP as a human (the latter of which is mostly waiting for hunters), so I'm not pro.

I'll add you. Next time I'll play is tomorrow.

[shell echo]

Chat 'til you are automatically bestowed the Citizen role, which has image perms.

[fresh spindle]

Ooooh

Ok

[fresh spindle]

Do you speak Spanish

[shell echo]

Unfortunately, no. I can sometimes understand simple Spanish messages.

[potent pecan]

1st time?

[sand radish]

anyone active on dying light nintendo switch version?

[royal sinew]

nintendo switch can handle dying light?

[sand radish]

yes

[wanton kiln]

Yeah but hardly anyone plays on it so if your looking to play online you may have trouble finding people, otherwise yeah it’s an old game so the switch can handle it although it may not run the best.

[ocean laurel]

25fps only

[wanton kiln]

Sheesh that’s rough

Not sure why anyone would want to play games like DL1 on the switch, hell RE9 looks like shit on the switch. Nintendo needs to stick with their games rather than branching out with such weak specs

[fickle briar]

Guys i have been trying to find a be the zombie game but every time the people tell me to just leave as they are playing the story what should i do?

Like do people not know they can turn it off or what

[wanton kiln]

Many people don’t know ite turned on automatically

[fickle briar]

Bad design choice imo atleast inform the player what it is

[wanton kiln]

Same thing happened when the game first came out, people get invaded 1-2 times and then turn it off once they realize

[fickle briar]

I guess I'll just have to make them learn

[wanton kiln]

Your on Pc so there will be more people wanting to play BTZ but still not many do

[shell echo]

When your ELO gets high enough, you'll stop finding people like that, fortunately.

[fickle briar]

So to get my elo high i just have to kill people then tho

[shell echo]

If it's a 1v1, let the human know they can drop-out in the pause menu without even triggering any loading screen. If they drop-out, there's a higher chance of it being a victory for you, which'll increase your ELO and give you 2,000 EXP.

[fickle briar]

Wait if they all leave i get elo increase?

[shell echo]

Yeah, if all humans leave, that counts as a victory.

Thing is, sometimes, you have to do some fighting in order for someone's departure to count as a forfeit. For humans, they have to destroy one nest in order for the night hunter's departure to count as a forfeit; for hunters to guarantee that the human's departure will be a forfeit, idk, but the game is not as lenient for humans.

[fickle briar]

For me i didnt know what this thing was until i got a night hunter in my game myself

There's no popup nothing

You have to face one to know what it is

which is bad design unless they were aiming for shock factor

[shell echo]

I think there is a pop-up, though—some time after the prologue. I always kept it disabled. Consequently, first time I saw a night hunter was in someone else's game.

I didn't even know it was PvP—I thought it would have something to do with safe zones being raided by biters and I didn't want to deal with that.

[fickle briar]

Yeah me neither i thought it was some special event but then I saw some new guy joined the game and connected the dots

The thing is if there IS a popup

It might be badly shown cuz damn every game is just people telling me to gtfo

Anyway thanks for the advice both of you

[fair phoenix]

Yeah once you finish the prologue you get to choose but I imagine most just click yes without thinking

Is there a way to turn invasions on without allowing co op?

[fickle briar]

Theyre gonna learn the hard way 🤣✌️

[shell echo]

Of course. There's a setting just above the zombie-invasion setting for human co-ops.

I keep human co-ops disabled 'cause the hunter gets tankier when there are more humans (and flare cooldown gets heavily nerfed). Also, some randoms throw the match.
I tend to briefly enable co-ops to invite friends.

[fair phoenix]

Brilliant I want invasions I just dont want other people

[shell echo]

Yeah, when playing as a night hunter, I find plenty of people who have co-ops disabled and only ever seem to 1v1.

[wanton kiln]

1v1 is the safest way to play unfortunately, the more people the more odds of cheaters

[shell echo]

If you're using a new save file, the moment you start seeing sessions with yellow matching, you can try prioritizing those. At that point, those will likely be people with higher ELO who are less likely to ask you to leave. Matching, for the hunter, is based off how close the enemies' ELO is to yours.

[fickle briar]

I'm only getting green matching ones

[shell echo]

Yeah, gotta get some wins before high-ELO people become visible.

[fickle briar]

Cool, cool

Would progressing thru the story cause people further into it to be visible too?

[shell echo]

If you're on PC, I could give you some quick wins rn.

[fickle briar]

I am, but I'd like to get them organically lol

[shell echo]

As long as they're past the prologue, their story progress doesn't matter—just their ELO, from winning/losing PvP matches.

[fickle briar]

I see. I'll get some wins then. Thank you for this info

[shell echo]

When I was tryna level up quickly, I prioritized team battles, tbh, 'cause you could chain kills and end the match quicker.

One really nice way: if you successfully tackle a human, any nearby humans will get knocked down and they will briefly be UV-suppressed. You can get guaranteed pounces on them if the main target of your tackle does not subsequently UV, gets knocked too far away or gets killed from the tackle.

And, if the humans are all afk (or, well, not fighting + not UVing you), just wait 1m30s for the game to make them auto-forfeit.
ez 2,000 EXP

[fickle briar]

Also is the ELO like, visible or is it just internally tracked

[shell echo]

It's internally tracked. Unfortunately not visible.

[fickle briar]

Oof. I'll rely on my exp as a marker then

[shell echo]

Best thing you can do is look at someone's rank while the scoreboard is present, but people with high ranks can have low ELO—I would say ELO and rank aren't necessarily heavily synchronized.

For future reference, I made the
BTZ rank table:

[fickle briar]

Okay i just fought a team in old town

That was exhilarating genuinely they didn't tell me to leave I lost but i had 3 human lives left

[shell echo]

Nice. How many people?

[fickle briar]

3

This is unlike any multiplayer experience I've had yet so far

Kind of like dead by daylight

[shell echo]

The more tricks you learn about night hunter, the more fun it gets.

[fickle briar]

I havent got any upgrades i should look into that

Oh my elo def dropped im only seeing green games again 🤣

Genuinely tho the prototype esque gameplay in first person is so exciting

[shell echo]

Did you get Tackle?

Basically the move you'll end up having to use the most.

[fickle briar]

Leapfrog, tackle, horde spit and uv suppressor spit

Got these

[shell echo]

Ok, great, so, basically, you prob know this by now, but humans can evade Tackle if they look at you and press jump at the right time, but, one thing I only learned quite late is that any of the following renders the tackle undodgeable:

1. The human wasn't looking at you when you initiated the tackle.
2. The human was above/below you (whilst really close).
3. The human was in a falling state (unless they grapple-cancelled—that briefly enables aerial tackle evasion).

So, yea, when people start getting slippery, try to tendril-sprint and juke them out.

Try to jump on high places and tackle them from above. Try to Ground Pound them off the rooftop then tackle them.

[fickle briar]

Holy shi damn thank you so much

Yeah definitely I'll apply all of this

[fickle briar]

So when theyre knocked down theyre defenseless right

[shell echo]

You're welcome. And, by tendril-sprint, I mean just holding the W + Sprint + Tendril while facing the ground at, like, a 30-to-45-degree angle. Don't let go of Tendril until you are sprinting. Gives a speed boost. You'll run way faster than ordinary sprinting.

You don't have to tap Tackle, btw—you can keep it held down and it will automatically happen when the human is in range as long as you are sprinting.

[fickle briar]

I see thanks for the tip

Just loaded into a game not even a second and all my nests destroyed

I love pc gaming

Some dude said in turkish "get the cheat bro" in the chat

🤣🤣

[wanton kiln]

90% of players in BTZ and in DL1 in general are cheaters just be mindful of that, the other 10% are absolute sweats and on rare occasions noobs

[fickle briar]

I suppose the people i got in my 3 player match are the exceptions

They even said gg at the end

[wanton kiln]

You’ll find some solid people every now In then but more often than not there cheating in some way shape or form wether it be weapons, their level, god mode, crazy damage etc

Many different ways to do it and some will hide it others not so much

[fickle briar]

Such is life I suppose

[shell echo]

90% is an exaggeration, from my experience. The vast majority of the people I encounter play fair.

[wanton kiln]

Okay 89%

Either way that number is INCREDIBLY HIGH and it would be disingenuous to say otherwise

I get you may not want to scare new people away from the game mode but that’s reality

[shell echo]

No. Seriously. In the past 3 days, I have yet to encounter a single cheater. Actually, I think I encountered someone using an insta-nest-killing flare today, but that's the first cheating human I've seen in over a week.

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[sudden zinc]

does having low survivor rank level affects in this gamemode?

as in your damage to the night hunter

[shell echo]

No. Damage to the night hunter is normalized based off weapon type and the number of humans present in the session.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x33f8DK_son_6FugS-pgxXItW8La5mBCCdI_JFvOVYk/edit?gid=1648019850#gid=1648019850

One little caveat: I was told, if the base damage of a heavy 2H weapon, "after NHB double damage calc", does not exceed 250, it will not oneshot the hunter in 1v1—though, it does still seem to do big damage.

If you're going to throw it, just make sure you don't use a super weak heavy 2H weapon, I guess. Aside from that, worry about your 1H range. Use a khopesh (ideally, Premium Oriental Khopesh) or a Flesh Ripper (longest range out of all 1H weapons, but requires a DLC).

[sudden zinc]

I always use the vindicator 2000 when fighting off a night hunter

[south tapir]

Magnums and pistols do the same damage, try using an American pistol

[wintry crystal]

What's the consensus on if be the zombie is fair or not? In my personal experience I always find it easier playing as a survivor even if im by myself

[craggy pike]

anybody for a practice match? steam

[shell echo]

I think it's fair. There's counterplay to everything.

Personally, I find playing as a night hunter easier, but that's only 'cause my hunter's combat experience is higher than my human's.

[royal sinew]

I have an xbox acc of hunter, last mutation and carnivore rank. I started a new one on my laptop, is it really worth it going up again?

[shell echo]

If you don't mind doing it, sure. I find night hunter fun enough to start over with.

Nothing wrong with using a downloaded save, though.

[royal sinew]

You can download saves????

[shell echo]

Yes. Save file locations:
Epic Games: C:/users/%username%/documents/DyingLight/out/save
Steam: C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/userdata/[STEAM_USER_ID]/239140/remote/out/save

[royal sinew]

I have absolutely no idea of how to do or what to do with that, I'm kinda dumb

[shell echo]

So, basically, you navigate to the directory. You will see .sav files. The ones starting with save_coop are human saves files; the ones starting with save_btz are Be the Zombie save files.

If you don't know your Steam user ID, just go to C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/userdata and check each folder manually.

[tawny night]

wtf tackle

[royal sinew]

Aight, thanks

[shrewd jolt]

I know the feeling. Having a bunch of survivors gang up on you with their UV flashlights, and basically stunlock you, is bs.

[shell echo]

Oh, one little thing: simply pasting a save file isn't enough. In order for the game to recognize the save file, you must be overwriting a save file that the game generated.

I figured this out the hard way when transferring my save files from Epic Games to Steam.

[ocean laurel]

Savegame porting is fine aslong there are no cheated/modded items in there

[coarse cairn]

@royal sinew As a simple he wanna says, just open new save and paste the available/prepared save which u find on the internet to the correct address with same file name. For instance, after creating "save_btz_0" paste the New file as a renamed like "save_btz_0". Fix me if I made any mistakes pls.

[tawny night]

UV shield 🙏

[royal sinew]

Tried that thing, ended up accidentally deleting my save files and lost all progress 🥀

[shell echo]

How did you delete them? What did you press?

As long as you didn't simultaneously press Shift + Delete, you may be able to find them in your computer's recycle bin?

CTRL + Z can also reverse deletion, if it's recent.

[royal sinew]

Forget that, I´m hella stupid, I just missplaced my original files

[shell echo]

Phew. Make sure to create a backup directory and copy the .sav files to that, so that loss of progress doesn't happen for reals.

[royal sinew]

Thanks for the tip, I´m not that good with computers

[wise kettle]

Braaaains

[sick salmon]

Seems like you are taking the "be the zombie" too literal lol

[shell echo]

Lol, my night hunter was recorded again. Brainlessly spamming at this part was fun.

[west basin]

anyone on to play invasions? i got dl on my pc from xbox and i wanna see what pc invasions are all about

[shell echo]

I'm not playing now, but we can add each other and play sometime later.

[west basin]

thats a better answer than sitting in a queue for 30 minutes lmao

[shell echo]

I will DM you.

[sweet kelp]

Hey, at least he’s playing his part

[oak summit]

any1 wanna hunt me and my friend dm me

[shell echo]

Do you also play as a hunter?

[shell echo]

Tfw you get invaded by a night hunter that's using God Mode and it still ends up RQing by the time you are at the 2nd/3rd nest.

[oak summit]

i encountered someone who had inf hp

[shell echo]

Woow. These goddamn cheaters.

[oak summit]

but he was friendly 🙂

[zenith mica]

I would play this mode more bc I love assym, like dbd, they just need to add a queue just for survivors

[wicked venture]

Bro why can't I send videos

[wanton kiln]

You have to chat and rank up to civilian, your name will turn yellow

It doesn’t take long just chat for a few minutes and you’ll be good to go just don’t spam otherwise you’ll get muted or banned

[wicked venture]

Alr ty man

[wanton kiln]

No problem 👍🏽

[royal sinew]

I think bro doesn't like visits

[weary sentinel]

hi

[winged haven]

Ur invading his house

[fair phoenix]

Honestly this is something I'd do

"Nope"

Like bro is trying to make a sandwich

[sweet kelp]

I actually didn’t even know night hunters could open doors lmao

[shell echo]

It's one of the interaction keys. I don't know what it is by default.

I think mine are middle-mouse button and capslock (that last one is why I sometimes accidentally type in caps in-game xd).

[honest gate]

yeah whatever you say mommy

[sweet kelp]

Oh. I should try it on gamepad to check when I get back on it to see if it’s possible

[shell echo]

I'm guessing it'll be the left face button (X on Xbox).

[sweet kelp]

Gotcha, Thankies!

[shell echo]

Nvm. It's A.

[sweet kelp]

Oop noted!

[oak summit]

does anyone have any tips on how to counter hunters who just spam the shockwave, or the ram? is so annoying

[fresh spindle]

Brother

I found you

I am leytonp808

[shell echo]

By "the shockwave", do you mean Ground Pound? To counter Ground Pound:

• Backslide often, so they have trouble getting close to begin with.
• Occasionally consider using hook if approached after a howl—you might just dodge GP via the elevation.
• Don't always approach the hunter after evading/interrupting a tackle/pounce—occasionally, if you want to punish it, try to use crossbows after backing away.

To counter Tackle spam:

• Try to fight in flat, open fields—ideally on the ground, to minimize potential fall damage.
• Backslide every now and then.
• Tackle becomes hard (or impossible) to dodge if you're falling or the night hunter is above/below/beside/behind you, so fighting it in complex, cramped environments is inadvisable.
• Increase your ExtraGameFov in C:/users/%username%/documents/DyingLight/out/settings/video.scr (second occurrence—the one that does not have an exclamation mark). I use ExtraGameFov(65).

---

Still, you'll naturally become better at dodging tackles as you play the game. It seems, as I got better at it, I developed a tendency to read the night hunter and flick my camera to where I think it'll be when it'll tackle.

[zenith mica]

Is there any way to "queue" for surv

Cause I havent played against a nighthunter in a min

Or increase chances would b nice too

[shell echo]

Main thing you can do is set invasions to "anytime" and wait. You can ask friends or Discord people to invade or play with you, though.

[wicked venture]

Yo leytonn

[zenith mica]

Is there like a channel to get ppl to play with on btz.?

And also is there like a meta here im missing bc I get slammed as killer

"Meta" as if the game isnt 11 yrs old lmao

[shell echo]

#🎮︱lfg-dl1 , but people ask in this channel as well.

[shell echo]

"Killer"? What's that?

[zenith mica]

Mb, dbd talk
Nighthunter

[shell echo]

You want to know if there are strats that are meta for night hunter players?

[zenith mica]

Doesnt have to b meta. Just any strat bc I lose every single game lmao

[shell echo]

1. Tendril-sprint: W + Shift + Tendril while looking at the ground at a 30-45° angle, let go of Tendril once you are running. Faster running speed.
2. Howl GP: Howl, start holding Claw mid-Howl. This'll let you skip the claw—so you can retain movement speed right before your GP.

With that in mind, some combos:

• GP -> UV Spit -> UV Block -> Pounce as soon it detonates (the spit stun will make it harder for them to throw a flare quickly)
• GP -> Concussive Spit -> Toxic Spit (after human falls down) -> GP -> Claw/Crouch-> Pounce -> GP -> Claw/Tackle/whatever
• Tendril-sprint, try to tackle human from the side/behind/above/below (this can render it undodgeable).

#🧟︱dying-light-1 message

[zenith mica]

Alr thanks a lot

[south tapir]

Very few counters to all that, takes an experienced human to survive uv spit uv heal pounce

[sterile terrace]

@tawny night

[shell echo]

Well, the UV Block version of that combo is more reliable than its UV Heal version. On multiple occasions, I've killed hunters mid-UV Heal with Tackle → 1H Throw as they attempted the latter.

Then again, if the human really drained your energy prior to the spit, you have less options.
-# [SIDENOTE] human counters:
-# • GP -> UV Spit -> UV Block ...: hit hunter with heavy 2H as it GPs you. Quickly finish it off with a crossbow shot.
-# • GP -> Concussive Spit...: dropkick hunter to render yourself immune to Concussive Spit's knockdown.

[hasty turtle]

whos invading?

[potent pecan]

I can

epic username colonel lixeer

[bitter leaf]

any1 tryna play?

[forest bramble]

Anyone tryna 1v1? Im a starter

[limpid summit]

Invaders......

Assemble!

[shell echo]

I'm 2v1ing with a friend on PC. Would you like to join us and do team battles in which we take turns being the hunter?

[shell echo]

I'm not playing anymore, but do you only 1v1, or do you like team battles as well?

[forest bramble]

Both are cool

[shell echo]

Check DMs.

[timid fractal]

anyone want to group up and wait for invades?

[wise kettle]

Yeah isn't this the "be the zombie" channel? So:

gets hit

"aAHGH PLEASE- PLEASE, RAHHHHH-"

[sick salmon]

Nighhunter noises

[wise kettle]

"oh shit-"

jumps into a nearby window

[sick salmon]

Breaks the window and beast it all over it

[wise kettle]

lunges

[shell echo]

*Ground Pounds you through wall*

[stable mist]

bro the rp channel is back?

@ocean laurel @plain wave

[plain wave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1418313104772698112/1479256968219853002/20260305_151854.gif

[stable mist]

We need to ping the champion

@red lily

[plain wave]

"How do I cancel GP?" the Hunter snarls

[stable mist]

• I abruptly stop all movement except idle staring and blinking, my inner workings manifesting a thought typed out in the heads-up display untethered from the world but somehow shared between all of my clones cognitively.
  "You have to press the z key man."

[plain wave]

[ocean laurel]

What

[solemn trellis]

any1 down to help me get the blueprint from the "hunter invasion"? I can't find any games and all i care about is the blueprint.
I'm on PC

[shell echo]

Sure. I'm playing as a zombie right now. In-game name?

[solemn trellis]

Thanks. I'll just enter the game.
I asked a couple of minutes ago, but something came up. so I can't play right now. Is that ok?

btw, i'm a low rank survivor who just started the game

[shell echo]

'Kay. I'll just DM you my friend code / name so you can add me.

[potent pecan]

Yo I loved your BTZ videos. I rly miss them good to see you

[frigid carbon]

this feels so wrong

[fair phoenix]

Damn they got bodied

[potent pecan]

i don't know what is wrong the day time or the dropkick DFA

[shell echo]

The most annoying thing about the glitch referenced in the former is that, as it occurs, the random daytime virals will continue to spawn mid-invasion.

[wise kettle]

licks ur feet

dies

[bitter wolf]

What feels wrong is it being day time lmao

[fair phoenix]

Why is it daytime anyways

[shell echo]

It's a glitch that occurs every now & then.

[fair phoenix]

Ah

[wise kettle]

Braaaains

[shell echo]

Nice try, zombie, but I've got none. >:T

[wise kettle]

walks right past you braaaaains

[fair phoenix]

Zombies eat brains. Don't worry you're safe.

[wise kettle]

me and you bro

we're safe

❤️

[shell echo]

Just ranked up to Indomitable. I'm so proud.
Just 1 more rank-up 'til Ultimate Survivor.

[frigid carbon]

how exactly does survivor ranking work

do you need to win a certain amount of matches?

[shell echo]

Um, probably something like that. There's probably, like, some score the game is keeping track of—though, I think the point difference from winning is larger than the point difference from losing.

[unreal quest]

make btz in the beast pls

[bitter wolf]

No

[frosty mason]

It would be better if they added BTZ to Dying Light 2

[stray brook]

Yo why cant i use my deadeye crossbow in invasion?

[shell echo]

Some items/weapons are "banned during invasions". What this means is:

• If you have them equipped, they will automatically be unequipped during invasions.
• You will not be able to equip them until the invasion is over.

Shields are banned, the Deadeye crossbow is banned, the Last Wish is banned.

[ocean laurel]

xd

[stray brook]

Bruh why they got banned tho?

[shell echo]

The devs prolly considered them to be unfair to PvP with 'cause:

• Shields allowed you to block spits that were not stuck to you (spit effect nullified entirely).
• The Deadeye crossbow has fast reload speed.
• The Last Wish produces an explosion at the target location if you are firing the last bullet before a reload is required.

If I remember correctly, the rifle with the fastest fire rate ("The Harran Inmate" rifle or something?) is also banned.

[wanton kiln]

It’s their tiny tiny tiny attempt to balance the game

Which is ultimately pointless without proper moderation

[gilded prawn]

Pointless without anti-cheat

[wanton kiln]

And the problem with anti cheat is it would also affect legit mods from what I’ve heard.

Which personally I wouldn’t mind, but I have Friends who play with visual mods and things like that, nothing that gives them any kind of benefit

[bitter wolf]

The “Your First” is also banned, idk why though

[stray brook]

Ok thats pretty fair but why did the your first pipe got banned too tho?

[shell echo]

Well, according to this person who is no longer present, that weapon's got the longest range. If it is banned, perhaps that is why.

@bitter wolf

[bitter wolf]

Ahh I never knew that

I suppose it makes sense in a way

A little annoying though, I have a hard time killing the zombie but when playing as it it’s easy

[shell echo]

Yeah, I actually have an easier time playing as the night hunter as well. I would likely flawless my own human as a night hunter.

[bitter wolf]

I just can’t dodge the hunger at all yet I see people doing it perfectly, and when I do dodge them it’s pure luck and on accident

And I’ll hit them but it doesn’t seem like the hit registers so idk

Maybe I’m just bad as a human and should stick to the hunter lmao

[shell echo]

Oh, I know that phase. Getting repeatedly reinvaded by an Apex friend for weeks helped me become more competent at dodging tackles.

[bitter wolf]

I’m sure if I actually play it more I’ll get better but as a controller player it’s a struggle

[shell echo]

Did you set a custom max FOV in C:/users/%username%/documents/DyingLight/out/settings/video.scr?

[bitter wolf]

I’m on Xbox

I wish we could do that

[shell echo]

Oh, okay.

[shell echo]

Aside from sensitivity adjustments, the only textual advice one can give regarding this: prioritize positioning yourself in open, non-complex areas, since Tackle can actually become undodgeable if the hunter is above you—and, of course, avoid falling state, which can also render Tackle undodgeable.

I see new players heading towards dangerous areas and getting vertical tackled frequently.

Dodging Tackle becomes easier overtime.

[bitter wolf]

I’ll see what I can do when I play, I wanna buy an elite controller so I have paddles that way I can swap weapon without having to let go of my controls

[shell echo]

Oh, definitely get somethin' like that. Back when I played DL with controller on PC, I was using BigBigWon Blitz, which has 2 rear buttons and 2 extra triggers—all 4 buttons can be mapped to ordinary buttons.

[bitter wolf]

That’s the name of the controller? I’ll have to look it up

[shell echo]

It's a Nintendo Switch Pro controller that has a Switch mode and an Xbox mode.

[bitter wolf]

Ohh damn

[shell echo]

One of the bumpers is jammed now, though. I've probably only had it for a year or two. I think it was, like, $40-50 CAD.
-# [NOTE]: It's still usable 'cause I can remap the closest extra trigger to it, but that means one of my extra buttons is no longer eligible to be remapped to something that's actually tricky to press...

[bitter wolf]

I can buy one for like 30 bucks at a store near me so I’ll try and get one soon

It’s on sale

[shell echo]

Hmm. Are you interested in "gyro aiming"?

[bitter wolf]

Is that with a ball instead of a joystick?

[shell echo]

No. It's basically motion-sensor aiming. You control your camera's rotation via rotating your controller.

Generally provides a more accurate and immersive aiming experience than joystick aiming.

[short coral]

Good for sim racing

[bitter wolf]

Oh, I tried that on a dif game and I struggled with it

[shell echo]

First time I used it was in Rainbow Six Mobile. Plugged my Razor Kishi into my phone (to provide a Nintendo Switch-like experience), tried it out. It was awesome.

[shell echo]

I see. I've heard Xbox controllers never support gyro.

[short coral]

Haven't try the mobile game yet

[shell echo]

Even my BigBigWon Blitz controller has no gyro in Xbox mode, iirc. Def got gyro in Switch mode.

[short coral]

Is r6s mobile good?

[shell echo]

Oh, hell yeah. The gameplay is 99% identical to the PC version and it's got many of the same maps—just a bit easier 'cause less recoil and grenade trajectories are shown as you hold the grenade.

[bitter wolf]

I think I was on ps

My gf owns the ps5 so I use that sometimes

[shell echo]

I see.

So, like, right now, how I'd set up gyro aiming on PC is: I'd play in Switch mode then use Steam's controller configurator to map gyro to mouse or stick movement.

So, whenever Steam is not an option and the game does not support gyro, I am limited, but there is a more expensive version of my controller—might have "Rainbow" in its name. You can map the motion sensors to right-stick movement via the hardware ("simulated gyro")—no third-party controller configurator software required.

What I don't know is if this is Switch-mode-only. If it works in Xbox mode...

[bitter wolf]

This is the one I wanna get

[shell echo]

Oh, interesting. That might be the one I was talking about in my preceding message.

[bitter wolf]

It probably is lol

[stray brook]

Damn, i wish they make the range shorter

Literally much better than just outright banned the weapon

[bitter wolf]

Well unfortunately techland isn’t what it once was

[stray brook]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sad-face-aw-man-oh-gif-16753519

[cursive wadi]

AussieGG is playing right now, streaming it

[sweet kelp]

He is playing with a gamepad.* He must be struggling after just being used to keyboard and mouse

[trim inlet]

any tips for countering the buggy on countryside? I'm new to BtZ mode, and barely unlocked the horde spit

[solid crag]

Goat btw

[shell echo]

Horde Spit is, like, the first skill you can unlock. I'm gonna recommend acquiring the following in order to facilitate dealing with the Buggy:

• Tackle (get this, but don't get the knockback upgrade underneath it)
• The movement speed upgrade
• The tendril movement speed upgrade
  -# [NOTE]: these two speed skills^ are on the far right
• Moving Ground Pound
• Aerial Ground Pound

---

Now, concerning the use of some of these things:

• If you GP (Ground Pound) the Buggy from the front or rear, you'll flip it upside down. FYI: humans can exit and kick the Buggy to fix this.
• You can tackle the Buggy. It'll make the Buggy briefly lose its speed.

---

Lastly, whilst you are latched onto the Buggy, if you mash the displayed button fast enough, the hunter will noticeably do a smash that does 40-ish% damage to every human in the vehicle, but you have to mash really fast to pull this off...

[gilded prawn]

Death, they should give you some kinda google role to be honest

I’m surprised you don’t have a role like that i’ll sign a petition or whatever

[foggy pumice]

Anyone still like to be the night hunter?

[bitter wolf]

Sorry to ping, regarding the point to not get the knockback skill for the tackle, is that so the human is still in close proximity so you can ground pound…etc

[shell echo]

Yes. There is a knockback upgrade for Tackle and a knockback upgrade for Ground Pound.
Do not get either of these knockback upgrades.

You generally want to try comboing Tackle (or Ground Point) into a spit. If the spit does not stick, you can try to tackle or pounce the human to keep them in place as it detonates.

[bitter wolf]

That’s good to know, I usually buy all the points but I’ll not cheat those this time, thank you for the information

[shell echo]

Speakin' of Tackle into GP, did you learn the "Tendril-GP" technique?

[bitter wolf]

Nope, I’m not great as the NH and I’m on console

[shell echo]

'Kay, so, like:
Version #1 (tendril cancelled into GP):
Hold Claw → hold Tendril (almost at the same time, but start with Claw first)
If you're aiming along the ground in front of you, you'll sprint a bit then go straight into charging a GP; otherwise, you'll fly forward while charging an aerial GP.

Version #2 (simultaneously tendriling and charging a GP):
Hold Claw → Howl (or spit) → (after the animation of the spit/howl finishes) start holding Tendril

[bitter wolf]

I’ll have to have try when I’m home

[shell echo]

One of my favorite examples of version #2 (1:58). I believe Fokus followed it up with a version #1 to destroy the flare.

One of the best players.

[zenith mica]

I cant imagine how happy you would be if we got btz in dltb

Lmao

[obsidian flame]

How to counter tackle or pounce into ground slam as survivor?

Is this mode actually balanced at higher lvls? (1v1 2v1 3v1 4v1) or is it just casual fun

[bitter wolf]

Try to dodge the initial tackle if possible

[obsidian flame]

You mean not to trigger the dodge cutcene?

[shell echo]

Just dodge or backslide away from the hunter. The only way the follow-up GP can be guaranteed is if its Interrupted Pounce → GP and they were immediately pressed into a wall that was very close to you.

Any other situation, generally guaranteed avoidance of the follow-up GP. Furthermore, if you're moving away after a Tackle evasion, you can fire at the night hunter with crossbows whilst airborne.

[obsidian flame]

Sorry, i am a complete beginner at this. Whats the best ranged weapon? Can you carry an incompetent team or is it impossible against a good hunter?

[bitter wolf]

Ranged weapons for NH would be a crossbow with impact bolts I think, but that’s about it

[shell echo]

Sorry, i am a complete beginner at this. Whats the best ranged weapon?
Crossbows. The meta loadout is: 2 crossbows, a heavy 2H weapon and a 1H weapon.
This is because crossbows can do huge burst damage, if you do two crossbow shots in succession. There are several scenarios in which landing crossbow shots becomes easy: when the hunter is in the recovery animation of a successful tackle against your teammate, while it's GPing someone etc.

Can you carry an incompetent team or is it impossible against a good hunter?
It is possible, but it depends on the degree of "incompetence". Like, if your teammates are just new—they get hit with lots of tackles, GPs and spits, and they don't do much damage to the hunter—but they're at least trying to group up and UV for you so you don't get pounced when suppressed or low, it'll def be harder than 1v1ing, but doable.

Some randoms straight-up just throw the match (ignoring objective, no UVing, always greatly distancing themselves from team [and therefore handing over free pounces to the buffed hunter] etc).

[obsidian flame]

In 1v1 can it finish off last third? I find hunters tend to run after 2 hits 1v1 and i cant catch them even fully burned from UV

[shell echo]

This is why I recommend (usually) landing 1 slice from a 1H weapon (60 dmg) or a human tackle (30 dmg), or a crossbow shot (45, if impact bolt), then finishing it off with a 1H weapon throw (136 dmg) or heavy 2H swing (120 dmg).
-# [NOTE]: Hunter's max HP is always 150.

[obsidian flame]

Oh wow 1 handed throw does more damage

[shell echo]

And it is very fast.

[obsidian flame]

Ty, super informative

I notice weapon scaling doesnt matter right?

[shell echo]

Against sweaty Apex Predators, 1H throws sometimes end up constituting 80-90% of my kills. xd
Then the remaining is "2H spam".

[obsidian flame]

I can throw cheap quarter master weapons

[shell echo]

Hmm. 'Kay. I recommend trying to acquire Premium Oriental Khopeshes (2nd longest 1H range)—or, if you have the DLC for it ("Dieselpunk"?), craft "Flesh Ripper" (longest 1H range).

[shell echo]

Are you aware of this table?

[obsidian flame]

No 😭

Godsend

[shell echo]

Now you are. You're welcome.

Don't forget to check out the DLC items tab at the bottom.

[shell echo]

'Kay. I'm back. One more thing: do you only play Dying Light on console? Hmm. I guess you do. PC users get to use quick-select bindings.

[shell echo]

Oopsie. Missed this question 'cause I was distracted at that time. It does slightly matter, but only when the weapon stats are really low. At one point, in a 1v1, I threw a heavy 2H weapon at the night hunter. That's supposed to kill it (151 damage). It ended up surviving with really low HP. Reason: my 2H weapon was too weak (prob ≤ 200 damage). I was later told to ensure my 2H weapon "does over 250 damage after night hunter booster double damage calc" or something. I just ensure my weapons have at least over 250 damage.

[obsidian flame]

Yea console

[short valley]

Looking for hunters

PC

Steam

[obsidian flame]

I have a question 🙋‍♂️

How does nightmare difficulty affect BTZ?

Does weapon/mob scaling affect zombies near nests?

Also whats the meta way to kill a nest? I saw someone throw molotov at it?

Last question, is there a normal medkit and overtime medkit? How to sort them in inventory?

[shell echo]

I will respond to each question, but my typing speed will be slow 'cause currently sick + on phone. Q_Q

[shell echo]

How does nightmare difficulty affect BTZ?
Does weapon/mob scaling affect zombies near nests?
Weapon stats actually seem to matter for the computer-controlled zombies. Though, I don't know if the strength/durability of the zombies changes based off the difficulty. I doubt the mob size changes. I believe mob size (and volatile spawn count) is contigent on how many humans there were in the session when the nest was generated.

The benefit of Hard/Nightmare mode is you can do what I like to call "pre-healing": inflict self-damage (firing an impact bolt at your feet is a popular way to do this), use a medkit just before combat begins. That way, you can gradually heal while fighting the hunter, which can end up saving you against a hunter that's really aggro.

Also whats the meta way to kill a nest? I saw someone throw molotov at it?
The molotov was prolly for the night hunter, not the volatile spawns. Here are some ways:
The "cheap"/"easy" ways:
-# [NOTE]: some hunters complain if you use these.

• Burning throwing stars: you can kill a volatile spawn or bring it to very low HP with only two throws—I believe headshots may do more damage.
• Gut Render (the chainsaw from the Dieselpunk DLC): strongest weapon for nests. Absolutely shreds volatile spawn HP.

The simple ways:

• Repeatedly Tackle → Slice the nest. Tackle seems to do nice damage against volatile spawns and this combo is pretty fast.
• Ensure you are crouched while using a knife (to ensure you will not jab), repeatedly slash the volatile spawn.

Throws:
At high skill levels, it seems popular to rely on repeated weapon throws. For example: Tackle → 1H throw → retrieve weapon or heavy 2H throw → Hook → Tackle → 1H throw → maybe even double xbow shot → retrieve weapons.

If you're using the Van Crane outfit (another thing some hunters complain about), combo #1 can be really strong 'cause you get to skip step #3.

Last question, is there a normal medkit and overtime medkit?
There are "military medkits", which apparently, for some reason, "heal more" than ordinary medkits. I don't know if that's 'cause they last longer or 'cause they regenerate a higher amount of HP in the same time.

How to sort them in inventory?
I don't think you can do that for medkits. I only know how to move around items you can equip. You probably can put medkits in your stash.

[obsidian flame]

Sorry for overwhelming you, ofc take all the time you need and thank you for sharing your knowledge!

Hope you get well soon

[obsidian flame]

Whats death from above and how does it work?

[shell echo]

People call it DFA for short. It's when a human kills the night hunter by falling above it while holding the attack button. I believe it requires the Drop Attack skill to be unlocked, and you generally require more fall speed to DFA the hunter than you do for normal zombies, so, for the hunter, you generally have to fall for longer.

[obsidian flame]

Oh its the 1-handed weapon special drop

I assume 2h ground pound doesnt kill?

Can you fail zipline(hook) to trigger it on purpose? Say 2v1?

[shell echo]

2H Ground Pound just does the damage of a normal 2H swing (120, 96, 75 or 60—depending on number of humans in session).

[shell echo]

You can cancel Hook to DFA the hunter, yes. A nice tactic is to hook upwards when you expect the hunter to GP you, then to DFA the hunter after it misses the GP.

[obsidian flame]

Seems like a more skilled experience to corner perma ground pound from hunter 😂

[obsidian flame]

Missing a ground pound should be 100% lethal with heavy weapon throw right?

[shell echo]

Yeah, if the heavy weapon is non-weak, the throw will always insta-kill the hunter in 1v1 (151 damage).

If you wanna be faster, just do tackle (30 dmg in 1v1) → 1H throw (136 dmg in 1v1).

[obsidian flame]

Seems like tackle has a lot of utility

I didnt unlock it yet lol

Do legacy lvls make a big difference as survivor?

[shell echo]

Yes, it is super important. Some more usages:

1. When the night hunter tackles you into a wall, if it does not immediately follow-up with a GP or insta-tackle
   -# (well, if the hunter's feet were not touching the ground after the tackle, which may happen if you were elevated just before the tackle, it will not even be able to successfully pull off the aforementioned follow-ups)
   , you can often get a guaranteed tackle (30) → slice (60)—or even a tackle → 1H throw.

2. If a hunter is locking you between two obstacles with GP -> Pounce spam, you can tackle it befor each GP—it's faster than a slice.

3. Tackle can actually push the night hunter if it was only tendriling, sprinting or standing, which can disorient it.

[shell echo]

Not really.

I recommend keeping your max HP at 100, by the way. I read somewhere that you revive with a flat 25 HP regardless of what your max HP is, and the hunter's toxic spit does percentage-based damage against you. Also, the passive healing that can occur in the absence of a medkit can bring you up to 95 HP, if you have the regeneration skills in—I think—the Agility tree.

This would mean: not getting the max-HP Legend skill; not getting those "sturdiness"(?) skills in the Power tree that increase max HP; not getting the last skill in the Survivor tree, which actually increases max HP.

[obsidian flame]

Oh wow

I lvled these first haha

[shell echo]

Yeah, so did I. I've had to make new save files multiple times 'cause no-one told me what skills to avoid.

[obsidian flame]

!

[shell echo]

In fact, I will tell you the other skills it is advisable to avoid for PvP:

• the trap skills (car traps, fence traps etc)—you can't change your bolt/arrow type near a trap you can activate, so very inconvenient skills.
• the vault skill in the Agility tree—can thwart Dropkick attempts in the presence of teammates and virals.

[obsidian flame]

Oof felt that trap one before

Elite game knowledge haha

Ty

[shell echo]

Yeah, and, unfortunately, if so much as one person has a trap skill, everyone else in the session is able to use those traps.

[obsidian flame]

Oooooh

Shame they didnt bring this mode later on

It was available on-release huh?

[wanton kiln]

It hasn’t returned for good reason

[obsidian flame]

Why? It’s completely optional

[wanton kiln]

1. It’s full to the brim of cheater
2. Hardly anyone plays it so it’s not worth the time or money developing it from a business standpoint
3. It was horribly moderated
4. It’s just not that fun, it can be fun but overall it’s really not that enjoyable but it can be

Same reason bad blood died out, DL playerbase is mainly single player types.

[obsidian flame]

I had both join lobby public and BTZ on and i literally get more hunters than co-opers rn

[shell echo]

Elite game knowledge haha
Ty
You're welcome. Fantazilite (author of the spreadsheet) and Fouadix (author of 3 of the most comprehensive night hunter tutorials on YouTube) know way more than me, and they are similarly willing to disclose tons of non-obvious information to newbies.

[obsidian flame]

I had 30% friend request rate from hunters haha cuz i dont quit or cheat

[wanton kiln]

Finding games on here is your best bet to avoid cheaters and quitters. You still may find some here but the odds are much lower.

[obsidian flame]

Got a link to the tutorials? 🙏🏻

[shell echo]

#🧟︱dying-light-1 message

I usually recommend for newbies to actually watch the tutorials in the order I listed them, 'cause, like, the first tutorials are shorter and easier to remember. Also nice to see explanations of the same stuff from different people, in case one said it in a way that's more digestible to you. Fouadix's are, like, an hour or two long and reveal techniques no other tutorial maker is talking about (e.g., underwater tackle, UV Heal underwater, simultaneously tendril while charging a spit).

[obsidian flame]

Can hunters even cheat? I mean without major file editing stuff? Survivor cheating seems way more common

[shell echo]

Of course hunters can cheat.

This game has no anticheat, so they can easily open you-know-what in the background.

[obsidian flame]

Aha

[shell echo]

Oh, you're on console.

[obsidian flame]

Yea lol

[shell echo]

Since you're on console, the most annoying way they can cheat is prob using a modded save file in which the hunter is wielding a weapon. Hilariously, it is possible for them to do that.

[obsidian flame]

Ohhh i had that actually

He was beating me with pipe

[shell echo]

When a hunter strikes you with a melee weapon, it oneshots you, unfortunately.

[obsidian flame]

I was sooo confused

[shell echo]

I've had multiple cases where a hunter used a weapon against me and it still lost 'cause it was new, lmao.

[obsidian flame]

Also usually on consoles if you block someone it stops them from matchmaking with you

[polar grail]

best thing you can do is report them
if you recognize the username as someone thats here, you can also report them to modmail

[obsidian flame]

First time someone bypassed block happened to me in this game

[shell echo]

Holy shit. That's awesome. At some point, there was some obnoxious, salty guy stalking me in Dying Light. I blocked him on Steam, but that doesn't stop him from joining me. Anyways, I think he's decided to leave me alone for now.

[obsidian flame]

Yea works wonders on orher games for me

Sometimes i block someone just for a bit if we get each other too often lol

And then unblock

[obsidian flame]

Sorry to hear you went through that 💔🙏🏻

I dont have concrete proof, it seems to be game to game basis. But i block laggers/cheaters in souls games pvp and literally never see them again

Wait

I do have proof

In dark souls 2 console if you have someone blocked you get a special message in the arena saying match fail to start despite finding a duelist

And i remember a very good player literally unable to play cuz everyone blocked him lol

He had to keep making alts and he would have activity lmao

Dark souls 2 has a very competitive point system in the arena so people really dont wanna lose haha

[short valley]

I am looking for a Hunter

PC

Steam

[quaint tinsel]

Can't you set your matchmaking options to 'Friends Only'?

[shell echo]

Yes, but then I can't get invaded by random night hunters.

[quaint tinsel]

Ha, understandable

[timber laurel]

That guy is me.

tick tock tick.

its only a matter of time before i find you...

[bitter wolf]

A lil weird if true dude

[shell echo]

Nope. Your I.Q. is too high to be that person, but now you scare me for other reasons. I'm going to upgrade my locks irl.

[timber laurel]

😳

well

thank u i guess

[shell echo]

I am currently looking for someone to invade. Shall I add you on Steam?

[stray brook]

hey y'all i got a question, is this guy modding or nah?

[bitter wolf]

Because of the health? Probably not he just used some potions I imagine

[stray brook]

wait potion can increase hp like that?

[shell echo]

Potions can increase your damage resistance, but I have yet to encounter one that can alter the appearance of your HP bar.

Anyway, sometime in 2025, I was doing team battles (3v1s, 4v1s). Someone with a suspicious-looking HP bar joined the session. The person played fair—didn't seem to have higher survivability than us. The person's HP values purportedly looked completely normal on their end. This person left to remove all mods or something, came back, and the HP bar was no longer suspicious-looking.

We concluded it's a visual bug caused by some mod—though I do not know what mod that is.

[stray brook]

ah i see, so it could have been just a visual bug then?

btw can uv flares kill nest instantly?

[shell echo]

It could potentially be harmless modding that produced a visual bug. I don't know what kind of mod would do that, though.

btw can uv flares kill nest instantly?
They're not supposed to. Anyone who oneshots a volatile spawn with a flare is cheating.

Make sure to remember "burning throwing stars" can legitimately kill volatile spawns very fast (in, say, 2-3 throws). Beautiful Barbie Dawg some hunter accused me of being a "flare nest cheater" when I was in fact using stars.
-# [SIDENOTE]: I don't even use stars in 1v1 anymore. I was new. x)

[bitter wolf]

To destroy nests fast use the Gut Render and burning throwing stars

[shell echo]

Are you the one invading? Were you able to drop that person's HP to 0?

[stray brook]

yea i use pounce on him alot

[potent pecan]

anyone wanna invade me?

[shell echo]

Have you been invaded after this request?

[wanton kiln]

Not many people want to invade, the majority of BTZ players want to be invaded. It’s a lot easier to win as survivors and you can team up. I’ve rarely seen anyone ask to invade people but it does happen every so often

[bitter wolf]

I have an easier time as the zombie if I’m doing a 1v1

[shell echo]

Slaughtering large teams of humans is pretty easy 'cause the hunter gets buffed so hard when there are more humans. The ability recharge speed buff is especially a big deal.

I've got a friend who can regularly (or nearly) flawless me in 1v1. Moment said person invites friends, all of a sudden, I might win.

[bitter wolf]

Tbh I’ve never invaded as a full levelled hunter ever so I’m always missing vital skills

[shell echo]

Yeah, once you have, like, UV Heal and Toxic Spit, you can wreak so much havoc against big teams if you take the match seriously.

When you successfully tackle someone, it knocks down everyone close, so, like, you can use Toxic Spit while they're down then spam them in the toxins.

---

The hardest type of match is prob a 1v2 against two 4-digit-hour sweats. That's when the hunter buffs aren't too extreme and the hunter is still moderately squishy.

That's why I favor 2v1 when I want to be able to carry.

[rigid rose]

Lf night hunter to join our 4 player server

[shell echo]

Are you still playing?

[potent pecan]

Nope

[shell echo]

I fought a Chinese team that actually 2H spammed so hard...

[potent pecan]

I wanna invade someone

[weary wave]

hello

[potent pecan]

This has to be weird

I glitched through the map and game crashed while being invader

[shell echo]

Yeah, that's happened to me before. Getting stuck in buildings after a pounce attempt, accidental super jumps. All sorts of weird things happen as the hunter.

[potent pecan]

Wow I had 6 invasions in a row

and we won only 2

[shell echo]

Wow. That's awesome.

and we won only 2
Aw. Well, invasions are fun even during losses.

[shell echo]

Well, my response is late, but I'm going to play some BTZ now. If you—or anyone else—wants to use me as DFA bait team up, I'm up for it.

[static flint]

Is anyone on? Im hoping to level my zombie but its not rlly easy for me

[potent pecan]

I need to learn how do DFA

[shell echo]

From my experience, DFAs have higher success rate if you wait 'til you are close to the night hunter before you start holding M1.

I read, somewhere, that fall speed decreases while you're holding M1, yet fall speed is what determines whether or not a DFA will occur. That's why I try to wait 'til I'm close.

[potent pecan]

so you free?

I need to try learning DFA

[shell echo]

Unfortunately, no. I'll be free several hours later.

[potent pecan]

got it

[thorn mural]

anyone playing tonight? i'm starving for some actual btz games instead of fighting people who don't even know they have to use uv light

[shell echo]

I can add you then we'll be able to play whenever we are on at the same time.
To clarify, do you play Dying Light on Steam or Epic Games?

[thorn mural]

lost my steam copy, so i'm using the free epic games copy i got when it was being given out for free..
so yeah epic games

[shell echo]

I see. Add Based Death on Epic Games.

[thorn mural]

🙏

[frigid carbon]

tf am i supposed to do bruh 😭

[shell echo]

Exploit the open field: keep your camera on the night hunter and backslide a lot. The key to surviving that situation was to avoid getting tackled/GPed at all—play safe 'til teammate shows up. And, of course, UV the hunter as much as possible so you've got more time to throw a flare if it does suppress you.

---

By the way, prior to the detonation of the spit, did you stop UVing?

[shrewd apex]

get highwr sensitivity

[shrewd apex]

or js 2handed go brr

night hunters mostly run away when they get 2 handed anyways

[shrewd apex]

now actually tho, when you cant track the hunter on screen, you can take the advantage of the map, i usually look both at the map and try to track the hunter, makes it easier.
and the other tip is for when you get uv spitted, hold sprint and use your backlash ability to drop a flare way faster so you dont get pounced

[shell echo]

If you do get a chance to swing at the night hunter (be it with a 1H or a 2H), yeah, you can take it—'specially if it manages to get close while trying to tackle. Just don't fall for the trick where it launches UV spit at the ground after a missed tackle/pounce. Being too aggro whilst isolated in a team battle can result in easy [pounce]/[GP → UV Spit] deaths, esp if fighting an Apex.

[shrewd apex]

sooo, have good teammates that dont die?

[shell echo]

This works whilst airborne from tackle evasion, too (as well as after grapple-cancelling mid-air). It is a lifesaver (if the hunter isn't close enough to just immediately GP/claw you then pounce).

[shrewd apex]

IT DOES AFTER CANCELLING GRAPPLE??!!

vro years in the game and i just find ts out 😭

[shell echo]

Yeah. Just elevate yourself, grapple-cancel, W + Shift + look-behind, throw flare mid-air. It'll work. Nice way to quickly throw a flare onto water if you are UV-suppressed in one of those Old Town rivers or something.

[shrewd apex]

you can never stop learning i guess

[frigid carbon]

switched to flares

[shell echo]

Speakin' of learning, you've seen Fouadix's tutorials, right? He knows the most obscure stuff, and he claims to know things that surprise even players with thousands of hours.

[shrewd apex]

ofc ofc. (i don't have any idea who foudaix is)

[shell echo]

#🧟︱dying-light-1 message

He is a PvPer with thousands of hours. I have him added on Steam. 😳

His tutorials are long af, but they are currently night-hunter-only. He'll apparently do human ones later.

[shrewd apex]

😲

[shrewd apex]

still tho, knowing tricks about night hunter helps no? you can encounter them if you know them

[shell echo]

Yes.

[shrewd apex]

i probably won't check them out though sadly, sticking to my roots (more likely laziness)

[shell echo]

Aw.

[shrewd apex]

i aint watching something an hour long

i say what's more important is working on my aim

i kinda suck at tracking

especially sweaty apex predators...

any tip to actually see their moves other than having better aim?

[shell echo]

Did you edit video.scr to give yourself a custom max FOV?
I use ExtraGameFov(65) in my video.scr.

[shrewd apex]

i use 55

[shell echo]

I see. So you did.

[shrewd apex]

it's the one that im most comfortable with

[shell echo]

Anyway, you just get better at dodging tackles with experience. I noticed, as I improved at dodging tackles, I developed a tendency to do it via reads. Like, I'm trying to track the hunter—and maybe I'm doing an alright job of that—but the hunter isn't at the center of my screen 100% of the time, yet I still manage to frequently flick to exactly where I think it'll be when it will perform the tackle and evade it.

[shrewd apex]

what i know from experience is uh

i mostly get tackled from the back

when they do the like

tendril thingy

[shell echo]

Do you backslide often?

[shrewd apex]

not rly

[shell echo]

They'll have trouble getting behind you if you do. Backsliding makes you travel pretty fast.

[shrewd apex]

only when i see a spit comin

usually i play in slums

[shell echo]

I absolutely love the Slums.

[shrewd apex]

so i dont really have that much open space

buildings everywhere

nest spawns are crazy

[shell echo]

Some areas in the Slums do have lots of open space, though. Like, you know that area beside the safe zone that was originally inhabited by those people selling the defective pseudo-Antizin?

My favorite place to fight the hunter in the Slums.

[shrewd apex]

i mean yeah, there are open spaces

but mostly the nest spawns are

well yk

in the big pipes

💀

[obsidian flame]

How do you know your rank as a survivor?

[shrewd apex]

at the end of every round]

you click on yourself

and there is your rank

below your name

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Ty

[shrewd apex]

you're welcome

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Can you use look behind while running uv against a pounce or do you have to flick screen behind fast?

( i am On console)

[shrewd apex]

u can use it i guess

idk

[shell echo]

The flashlight? I think a friend and I tested it. When the pounce began, I think the camera immediately snapped back to the forward direction.

I recommend just flicking behind you fast.

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Oki

I should be able to consistently do it theoretically as soon as i get grabbed right? (Pounce animation start)

[shell echo]

Uh, on mouse, generally. On controller, I don't know.

I've noticed, when people fall from a really high location and end up stunned on the ground, then I pounce them from behind, it's like they can't rotate the camera enough to protect themselves. Sometimes, they can—maybe. That is a scenario I have to test.