🎯︱other-games

[queen torrent]

imagine if the guns started having dmg numbers 💀

gta 6 rpg

[umbral dawn]

just to see what the characters will say lol

[umbral dawn]

☠️

nah

[queen torrent]

feel like rockstar could pull it off.

like make it good.

[umbral dawn]

anyway imma head off

[queen torrent]

alr

[umbral dawn]

math exam tomorrow

ttyl guys

[charred gust]

fuck no

[charred gust]

good luck

[devout berry]

why is cock so hard to ping

[queen torrent]

wearing a headband gives you more protection that a cowboy hat

[devout berry]

mf can't type his name

[queen torrent]

aint that hard.

[charred gust]

it was garbage when cod did it with black ops 4 and cold war, part of the reason why their games are so good gunplay wise is when you experiment with guns and see what works, they still have a relatively logical flow

[queen torrent]

ik

i'm just saying if rockstar tried, they probably could make it work

as long as it's not put in last minute.

[charred gust]

like in GTAO it was kinda garbage cuz like characters feel spongy sometimes

like when u shoot them 10 times with an AR and they still don't die so you gotta like go next to them and shoot them

[queen torrent]

metro does this really well because you always run out of ammo for your gun so you're constantly switching

[queen torrent]

mhm

[charred gust]

the metro games are goated

[devout berry]

@fleet gulch recommend me some story focused games with horror elements, preferably not pixelated type of games

[charred gust]

you take anything you can get

[fleet gulch]

Soma?

[charred gust]

but fr i feel like that gun logic needs to remain consistent somewhat if its not a scifi shooter

if i shoot someone with an AA 12 they need to die, i don't need to headshot them 5 times

or if i shoot them in the body it doesnt kill them until like 7 shots

shit just doesnt make sense, its a fucking shotgun

[queen torrent]

if you don't play metro on the realism difficulty ( the difficulty that makes ammo sparce and increases your dmg but lowers your health ) you're not playing metro right.

[queen torrent]

again, metro does this well

shoot someone w a sniper? dead no matter what ( not the mutants or the tank enemies tho )

[devout berry]

played, good game

[queen torrent]

shotgun?

dead

[charred gust]

its funny because like all it does is make everyone use the meta

so like 70% of the guns are automatically trash

[queen torrent]

but w metro

[fleet gulch]

Happy's Humble Burger Farm

[queen torrent]

you're always low on ammo

[charred gust]

whereas the way it should be is you can use whatever you want and still have a competitive loadout

[queen torrent]

so you're always switching

[queen torrent]

but yeah gtao is ass weapon wise

which is one of the reasons i don't play it.

[charred gust]

the worst feeling in a game is when you don't have ammo or a gas mask in metro

literally this gif

https://tenor.com/view/forced-to-play-gif-20710116

its peak panic mode

[devout berry]

more, do you know any that is revolved around parks and such in darkness?

[fleet gulch]

[queen torrent]

omd i was playing last light, and there's this one section where this virus has been released so you need your mask, but it's also a forced gun fight, and my mask broke, so I had to run around to find a mask, just to find that my filter ran out and then guess what, i run out of ammo so I have to find a new gun but all the guns are in this area with enemies, so I have to throw grenades and be quick but careful.

[charred gust]

peak adrenaline rush

[queen torrent]

mhm

was very fun.

[charred gust]

its also fun cuz like enemies dont feel like a sponge

i hate that in any game

[fleet gulch]

Alan Wake and Slide in the Woods

[charred gust]

you empty a clip into someone's heart and they're still alive

like bro die already omg

[queen torrent]

mhm, you die fast and so do they.

[charred gust]

also shoutout to exodus

for having k&m support on console

[queen torrent]

I need to play exodus man

[charred gust]

doing god's work

[queen torrent]

too broke

exodus seems sick because there's no menus

[devout berry]

played alan wake, good shit, was obsessed with it for a while, I'll see the other one

[queen torrent]

like barely any.

[charred gust]

i had to restart 2033 like 3 times because i always get to the same part and something happens so i move away from it

but last time i played it i moved up

got to the part where you get on the bottom of that train

and like smuggle into russian territory

i love that quote artyom says of something like "Even the apocalypse couldn't keep us from fighting each other over politics and beliefs"

because you know irl that shit would also happen

[queen torrent]

mhm

yk i never expected nazis to be in last light ( i've only played last light btw )

anyway imma play amnesia now

[charred gust]

have fun

[pseudo swallow]

@astral cargo tried many guns and kilo was easiest after all their nerfs

Grau was 0 recoil but nerf

[astral cargo]

[pseudo swallow]

M4 had a bit but had decent damage/range

But nerf

Kilo was only one left i think after all the nerfs

[astral cargo]

Yes

[pseudo swallow]

Mp5 goated

Iso was hitmarker machine but 50 round was fun

Mg42💀💀💀💀💀💀

[astral cargo]

Btw u have some smg build for wz2

?

[pseudo swallow]

Dont play wz anymore

Quited Long time ago

Idk what attachments do

But for smg depends on your playstyle

Aiming stability is bs

Go for recoil control/stabilisation and a bigger mag

Reloading is the biggest pain

Optics are always viable, if u have an extra slot take an optic

Good for clear view over longer ranges

If u wanna rush go for movement/hipfire: laser, stockless

Think about your strat before u make a build @astral cargo

And pic attachments that fit

[native crow]

Anybody wanna play dead island riptide with me? Im on ps5 My name is in my bio

[tired creek]

nice dlc

by nice i mean the start of it

[tired creek]

💪

[earnest shale]

bro is already a professional shitposter

[charred gust]

what nitro does to a man

https://tenor.com/view/angry-bird-sad-gif-21136900

discord common overused sticker server owner when the users run out of nitro and no one talks to them anymore :

[earnest shale]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-otter-otter-love-gif-25839171

[frail wind]

[pseudo swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-nitro-discord-nitro-gif-19472808

[somber valve]

@devout berry the way to install mods it is still the same way?

[paper thicket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/574217947254489098/1087094408744288319/-9999_social_credit.gif

[somber valve]

They saw the red text

[earnest shale]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-social-credit-score-credit-score-score-china-gif-23125701

[paper thicket]

@fleet gulch @normal crown

[devout berry]

ye'

[somber valve]

Gonna do that later.

[paper thicket]

I had one life where I ran over someone, immediately reversed into another dude, and then ran over someone in front of me again but shadowplay shit itself

[devout berry]

@broken lodge where did that mf spawn from 😭

[normal crown]

Sanest driver in ohio

[charred gust]

account name in question :

[broken lodge]

[copper stone]

@vital vector so one thing lead to another and im not going to lecture today

We game?

[fleet gulch]

Eidolon when

[devout berry]

2 psychopaths casually murdering every npc

[vital vector]

Oh?

[copper stone]

Lets just say, i am lazy asf

[opal torrent]

[paper thicket]

why he astronaut crane

[fleet gulch]

so, you interested in learning how to hunt eidolons?

[copper stone]

Yess

[devout berry]

ask @broken lodge

[copper stone]

Eidolons and profit taker

[fleet gulch]

I have no idea how to do profit takers, but eidolons are my thing

[copper stone]

Aight lets do it, what do i need?

[vital vector]

Not a good excuse.

[fleet gulch]

you got Rhino/Chroma or Oberon?

[somber valve]

@devout berry holy fuck

just saw the newer mods

jesus

[copper stone]

Umm volt?

[fleet gulch]

Already got an almost stacked Volt for it

2 of them don't work that well

[copper stone]

Oh i can bring smth else then

[vital vector]

Where is @polar plover?

[copper stone]

I do have all 3 of those frames tho

[vital vector]

It'll be good fun.

[fleet gulch]

join me in the rainbow

[copper stone]

We shud also do a sister

[fleet gulch]

we could

[copper stone]

Sister time

[queen torrent]

i hate discord sometimes

just tryna play dmc in peace

yk

[copper stone]

@fleet gulch @vital vector ill brb, somehow my internet is dead. I booted up pc and got nothing

[broken lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-light-dying-light-bzt-dying-light-night-hunter-turkish-night-hunter-dying-light-turkish-night-hunter-gif-19329539

[somber valve]

@devout berry have you gotten the shirt less alhaitham?

you prob have.

[devout berry]

no

[somber valve]

bruuuh

@stark oyster look at what they did

[polar plover]

?

[vital vector]

Eidolons.

[polar plover]

oh no

I'll join later, need to take a break

[vital vector]

Bad.

Bad Mmesek.

[polar plover]

ye, I drank too much orange juice

[vital vector]

[polar plover]

and now I feel bad

[queen torrent]

is that

vergil?

[somber valve]

yes.

[queen torrent]

why is

vergil in genshin?

[somber valve]

mods

[queen torrent]

o

[stark oyster]

Stop playing that game

[vital vector]

@polar plover When would you say you'd be available to play?

And don't drink orange juice, it sucks.

[fleet gulch]

Drink milk instead

https://tenor.com/view/dani-milk-dani-drinks-milk-gif-19913423

[quaint crest]

literally one inch away from noclipping in the backrooms

[stark oyster]

Choccy milk better

[stark oyster]

WWWWWW

[queen torrent]

wdym

[somber valve]

look bruh my cycle of games is that, dbd, overwatch, for honor

sometimes minecraft

[queen torrent]

i'm tryna listen to lore!!!!!

[somber valve]

Vergil hires vergil brother and vergil's son to defeat vergil so vergil can become vergil again

[charred gust]

@stark oyster stock

[queen torrent]

ik

[fleet gulch]

https://twitter.com/vgc_news/status/1637876374940577792 @somber marlin

VGC (@VGC_News)

Paradox has revealed new details about its The Sims rival Life by You. “Created to be the most moddable and open life simulator”, the game will enter Early Access in September

https://t.co/ebZjL2ujJy

Twitter · Mar 20, 2023, 5:58 PM

[somber valve]

@stark oyster u fr https://youtu.be/Ccx2tZqwxM4

[ripe hazel]

imagine if it just turns off your pc when you run it

[stark oyster]

I'm relaxing hold on

Just got home

[somber valve]

kill them all...

[stark oyster]

Yup, except I don't main Tiandi

[somber valve]

are you sure?

yes

well im convinced

[stark oyster]

Fun fact: on a survey I was once asked "What song correlates to your life?" And I put that song!

I have a screen shot somewhere

[broken lodge]

@paper thicket my pov

@devout berry psychopath moment

ehe @devout berry

alr brb

(idk why I got so many discord pings at the time)

[earnest shale]

this makes sense!!!

[polar plover]

right about now, dealt with debuffs after orange juice and fixed food processing system

[vital vector]

Cock just left.

[fleet gulch]

right as I'm heading to bed

[polar plover]

@fleet gulch GET BACK HERE

[fleet gulch]

Won't, I have a huge headache, gonna sleep it off

[polar plover]

ah take care then

[broken galleon]

damn dis game lookin good

[jolly sun]

same when RE7 came out (first game to use RE Engine) i was blown away by the graphics

[stark oyster]

RE7 was the scariest one

Re4 VR was spicy but still manageable

[broken galleon]

Only time in 10 years I had a legit jump scape affect me

Re7 in vr when that old bitch jumps out at you and scares you into that pit

On pc vr it was amazing

I'm not allowing myself to play re3 untill I finish mass effect andromeda though

Otherwise I'll never finish it

I've been playing through all mass effect titles on hardest setting from the first to the last

Since january

I'm about 75 percent through andromeda. I'm 100 percenting all of em lol

[queen torrent]

explain how you have enough will power to play andromeda

[broken galleon]

Its actually nowhere near as bad as people say it is

Its definitely alot better than jt was on release

[queen torrent]

most games are better are a few months

[broken galleon]

Still has the best combat out of the series too

[queen torrent]

well you have fun

gonna replay metro last light.

[broken galleon]

Noice

Its a goodn

[queen torrent]

mhm

still need to get exodus

[broken galleon]

Raytracing js amazing in tbat one

[queen torrent]

ik

game just looks fun as well

looks very immersive

[broken galleon]

Yeah it's unique in that it's open world but also not

[shrewd sparrow]

[broken galleon]

It has like 3 or 4 major areas that are like their own open world, but once you leave you can't go back

[digital kite]

spider destruction

they all will die

[somber valve]

@stark oyster

[merry igloo]

This shit looks better than real life

[stark oyster]

They literally can't stop sucking off vergil

[somber valve]

literally

[honest crane]

The fire effects look amazing in this game

[honest crane]

Days Gone supremacy

[west locust]

fuck sony for not greenlighting a days gone sequel

[honest crane]

And it's too late now

Lots of devs left

[broken lodge]

I'll wait for the hardest boss in the dlc to take that #1 spot

[shrewd sparrow]

It's goofy

I was letting a friend watch me play and we couldn't help but giggle at the absurdity

[earnest shale]

mmm

I dont think days gone is better than dying light

"generic story simulators"

[steady thistle]

clouds arent as hifi as irl clouds

other than that tho yeah that shot looks pretty good

we'll be getting super close to irl level in about 10-15 years

[earnest shale]

We dont need that.

[shrewd sparrow]

Yeah yaknow, spiderman, Bloodborne, nioh ... Obviously story simulators

[steady thistle]

why not? it'd be dope

[shrewd sparrow]

No need to question it though... Don't worry, someone who talks like this likely can't fathom a game having good gameplay AND a great story

So makes sense why he doesn't like other playstation games

[steady thistle]

well i did hear days gone is kinda weak

i love a game that tells a great story

god of war being a perfect example

can't wait to try last of us remastered when the pc port drops this month

[shrewd sparrow]

Truly peak @charred gust

[earnest shale]

What would be the point of "irl" level of graphics?

[steady thistle]

more detail and immersion?

thought that'd be obvious lol

plus, that's many a game developer's dream

to create something (literally anything) and have it be as detailed and realistic looking as something in real life

having good graphics isn't necessarily going to come at the expense of good gameplay lol

[shrewd sparrow]

Meh in many cases, especially for something like horizon you'd definitely want a good style over realism

[steady thistle]

horizon was kinda weak honestly

[earnest shale]

Yeah, but that would take most of the devs' time. We already have amazing graphics, they dont need to improve graphics cause what we need now is different stuff when it comes to gameplay, Art direction is more important imo

[shrewd sparrow]

Some games look better the more realistic they are, some games look better just owning their style

[steady thistle]

super repetitive

[somber valve]

what

[shrewd sparrow]

I hated horizon lol but I will defend it's visuals

Because it looks great

[earnest shale]

I would choose gameplay over graphics with a good art direction

Thats what we need

[steady thistle]

absolutely. something like hollow knight or psychonauts shouldn't ever be tried to be made more realistic

it could be done even for those but they are great the way they are done

[shrewd sparrow]

Some games I think benefit from realism... Like RDR2 or the modern ghost recon games... Or GTA or most apocalypse games

[steady thistle]

it's all about the aesthetic goals of any given project

yep

[steady thistle]

i would choose a game with great gameplay, great graphics, and great story/writing

[shrewd sparrow]

There's some games where the style is more important than the gameplay like undertale

[steady thistle]

that's just me tho 😄

[earnest shale]

That would be a perfect game, but you know, perfection doesnt exist

[shrewd sparrow]

Imagine if Undertale was a 3rd person open world ultra realistic looking game

[steady thistle]

great =/= perfect

and it's reasonable to expect greatness

[shrewd sparrow]

The silliness just wouldn't work. The game exists as the modern anti game. Nobody would like it then

[steady thistle]

it wouldnt be undertale lol.

[shrewd sparrow]

I'm just giving an example of why every game shouldnt strive for realistic graphics

[steady thistle]

better example would be a super realistic fallout

with good writing (something not seen since 3/nv)

and proper nv level intricacy in quest design

[earnest shale]

I think that with games like tlou remake or recent resident evil games we have reached a great level of graphics

[shrewd sparrow]

Yeah but fallout is an apocalypse game as I previously mentioned, it's also a role playing game so immersion should be one of the top priorities

[queen torrent]

leave tf2 alone

[somber valve]

no??

[steady thistle]

im not debating you im just stating a game that would look better

[somber valve]

if it means an update so be it

[steady thistle]

but yes it falls under your apocalypse thing

[shrewd sparrow]

Like by using fallout as an example to contrast to Undertale, just proves my point that some games look better with realism and some wouldnt

[steady thistle]

no one is trying to disprove your point 😛

[shrewd sparrow]

I don't think realism should be the standard, especially not for graphics

[steady thistle]

agreed from the outset.

it should be a standard as far as what could be reached

hardware wise

we aren't there yet

[queen torrent]

overwatch bad

tf2 so much better

[honest crane]

Idc what anyone says, it's still peak in my book

[shrewd sparrow]

No because much better looking visuals can be achieved without needing to make things look realistic. It's why "looks better than real life" is kinda a stupid phrase because most games with a pretty art style looks better than real life

[jolly sun]

tl;dr
art direction > graphics

there

[steady thistle]

art direction + graphics = win*****

there

[shrewd sparrow]

Visuals ≠ graphics. A game can have terrible graphics and have great visuals

[steady thistle]

anyway im kinda done this is semantics

[queen torrent]

I can name a few games that prove your point
dishonored
dishonored 2
super paper mario
undertale
deltarune
etc

[shrewd sparrow]

I'd call dark souls 2 a pretty good example of this

[earnest shale]

ELDEN RING IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF GOOD GRAPHICS WITH AN AWESOME ARTSTYLE!!!

Caps locked

[queen torrent]

caps lock moment

[broken lodge]

Idk why this is funny to me

[somber valve]

you sound like an npc

[broken lodge]

Anyways overwatch L

[steady thistle]

atomic heart looks better than elden ring when it comes to aesthetics / style

to me

[somber valve]

while yes overwatch L at least it doesn't have bots

[steady thistle]

elden ring nailed what it was going for

[shrewd sparrow]

I mean fr, think of a game that has very dated graphics but still looks beautiful due to good visuals/art direction

[somber valve]

overwatch is playable

to some point

[shrewd sparrow]

You'll come up with many

[steady thistle]

monotonous color spectra being a part of that

[queen torrent]

overwatch = money
tf2 = free

henceforth

it's better.

[somber valve]

you dont need to spend on either?

[steady thistle]

psychonauts 1 looks great iirc

[broken lodge]

They're

Completely different themes

Lol

One is futuristic, the other medieval fantasy

[earnest shale]

heavy team fortres

[somber valve]

jesus how did you type that so fast

[steady thistle]

it's not the themes that separate atomic heart and elden ring

[earnest shale]

tesus christ!

[steady thistle]

one is colorful

[broken lodge]

Replying to this btw

[steady thistle]

other is not colorful

[broken lodge]

And i just lagged

[steady thistle]

one is kubrickian

the other kinda more like

i dunno peter jackson meets cronenberg

emphasis on jackson

[broken lodge]

One is intended to look dark and grimey at times

[earnest shale]

Bro we are not talking about films!!!

[broken lodge]

Cause yk

[steady thistle]

yeah

[broken lodge]

Medieval lmfao

[steady thistle]

not medieval

think of fable

[somber valve]

[queen torrent]

oh shit yeah overwatch 2 is free now isn't it.

[queen torrent]

still ass.

[steady thistle]

that aint gonna be grim

[broken lodge]

Medieval doesn't have a strict definition though

[steady thistle]

and baldur's gate 3 is never gonna look as grim as elden ring did

[shrewd sparrow]

Color doesn't equal good. I mean look at GTA4, that game has a very compelling visual style and it's also very dark. Which is the whole point, it's a dark game, with a dark world, and a dark story... The world perfectly contrasts Nico's idolization of the American dream built up by his cousin

[broken lodge]

It can be grim

[steady thistle]

exactly what im correcting

😛

[broken lodge]

Never said it couldn't not be grim tho

[steady thistle]

you said elden ring is grim color spectrum because it's medieval

[somber valve]

u gonna try starail when it comes out

[steady thistle]

but the latter does not necessitate the former

as in fable or baldur's gate 3

[shrewd sparrow]

Elden ring has a lot of color

Literally look up

[steady thistle]

muted color*

i played the game it's not very colorful

[queen torrent]

there are multiple factors that make a game grim.

not just the color scheme

while yes it does help

you can have a grim game with bright colors.

[steady thistle]

we're just talking about visuals in games hai

[queen torrent]

o

[steady thistle]

specifically

[queen torrent]

mb.

[steady thistle]

no sweat

[shrewd sparrow]

Bro... Did you see the altus plateau? Caelid? Again, did you look up? Did you beat the game? Elden ring is very colorful

[broken lodge]

I see this as

[steady thistle]

caelid is just all shades of red

[broken lodge]

It's your artistic preference

[steady thistle]

and not super saturated

exactly kafka

[broken lodge]

Not that one game is better than the other

[steady thistle]

you got there finally

[shrewd sparrow]

That's a color.... A color not associated with earth

[steady thistle]

yes sir

i prefer atomic heart's creative style to elden ring's

[broken lodge]

Understandable then

[steady thistle]

not just because of the future theme

[shrewd sparrow]

Caelid is artistically genius, just looking at it makes you feel dread

[broken lodge]

[shrewd sparrow]

It's color pallette is effective

[steady thistle]

i think

visually

[earnest shale]

Leyndell is fucking beautiful!!!

[shrewd sparrow]

It's certainly not dull

[steady thistle]

when elden ring is at its closest to "genius"

is when we're talking about creature designs

monsters

and such

and animations

[shrewd sparrow]

Elden ring is genius in almost every aspect of its design

[steady thistle]

no it'

[broken lodge]

I like astel but more cause

[steady thistle]

s not

[charred gust]

?

[steady thistle]

lol

[shrewd sparrow]

Goofy ahhh game

[broken lodge]

How if you look at falling star beasts

[steady thistle]

the only other aspect that feels genius to me about elden ring

[broken lodge]

You can see how it could evolve into what astel is

[steady thistle]

is the castle designs

those are next level

[charred gust]

yeah sure dude

[shrewd sparrow]

My friend literally predicted what deacon said

[queen torrent]

jpik got powers.

[shrewd sparrow]

I also love how every second mission I have to sneak around Nero guards and follow a helicopter. Every other mission I get to slowly follow an npc on foot or on bike

[charred gust]

you talking about the "boozer, you in here ?"

[steady thistle]

the closest example

[charred gust]

my guy you're literally like not even 2 hours in

[steady thistle]

to what i want out of games going forward

for graphical fidelity

would be cyberpunk

[shrewd sparrow]

I am 15 hours in

[charred gust]

like actually play the game

[steady thistle]

which, as an example, is not realistic at all

body structures for characters are not like real humans

[charred gust]

you took boozer back to your camp then he ran away, thats the part you're at right ?

[shrewd sparrow]

The story has been nothing but slow following missions and shitty stealth mission. Then the odd bake chase mission

[steady thistle]

but yeah those are the best graphics out of all the games i play

[queen torrent]

you're not at the good bit yet!!!
you have to get to at least 20 hours before the story starts getting good!!!

[shrewd sparrow]

Right now I'm at the part where I have to get parts for Rikki to make boozer ||a new arm? I guess||

[shrewd sparrow]

The classic shit game defense... Truth is I like the game. But I can admit when a game is bad even if I'm having fun with it. I know that it's totally okay to like very mediocre or bad games

[charred gust]

yeah keep playing the game and actually try to like it, maybe you'll enjoy it then

bro actually made a video with his friend laughing at the game

lmfao

[shrewd sparrow]

Cause it's so goofy

Like I said I think it's fun. It's just mediocre.

I also like ghost recon breakpoint, but it's mediocre

I like dying light 2, but it's mediocre...

Its okay to like mid games without trying to convince everyone their a masterpiece just because they have some fun elements!!!!

[crystal kindle]

Ok

[charred gust]

whats goofy is trying to use that as a point to shit on the game, i could also call up 2 of my friends and do the same for literally any other game, it's just that you're purposely trying to shit on the game and its so clear

[queen torrent]

day's gone is lacking in departments.

Gameplay is repetitive

[charred gust]

i love how you compare it to breakpoint and DL2, 2 games in completely different classes btw

[queen torrent]

riding a motorcycle around isn't that innovative (ikr)

[earnest shale]

this is goofy!!!!

[queen torrent]

and the story is lackluster.

[charred gust]

like breakpoint and wildlands were both actual video game trash

[queen torrent]

ok they weren't that bad.

good stealth / tactical gameplay

everything else

was mid.

[charred gust]

lmfao

[shrewd sparrow]

Days gone has awful writing, and terrible pacing. Repetitive mission design, and a very bland protagonist.

It also has fun combat, great exploration and a beautiful world, and some of the best motorcycle mechanics yet (which I'm partial too)

Again. I'm enjoying my time with the game. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend it's some masterpiece just to make everyone think I'm different

[charred gust]

by that logic GTA5 and every previous game was also mid

[earnest shale]

I missed this...

[queen torrent]

I never said that it was mid because of the motorcycle 💀
I was just saying people act as if filling up a tank for a motorcycle makes a game good.

[charred gust]

guy's talking about a game having awful writing when he's not even past the intended prologue

[queen torrent]

"intended prologue" you shouldn't have to go though 15+ hours of gameplay to actually start enjoying the story.

[shrewd sparrow]

Bro I'm 15 hours into the game. If I'm still in a prologue then that just proves the game is terribly paced

[charred gust]

i genuinely have no idea how it took you 15 hours to get to that part

like were you just running around exploring ?

[charred gust]

its funny how you're also saying 15 hours

lmfao

like is he your friend ?

[shrewd sparrow]

Yeah, breakpoint, DL2, far cry 6, bf2042, Gotham knights, crew 2, fallout 76, marvels avengers, TLOU2, just cause 4, I could keep going but you get the point. All critically mid games that I was able to have fun with and get enjoyement out of, sure, I liked these for what they were but I'm not gonna pretend like their reception isn't absolutely deserved

[honest crane]

I'm sorry... What?

Are you seriously just running around meanwhile laughing at the game for terrible pace?

[charred gust]

TLOU2 was a critically mid game ?

[earnest shale]

gasp

[shrewd sparrow]

Lol

[shrewd sparrow]

No but it did have very poor reception

[charred gust]

btw its funny how you're throwing around games you think are mid and say they're critically like that

same with JC4

[shrewd sparrow]

Either way if it bothers you, then omit it

[honest crane]

If you can't even get passed the prologue after 15 hours, and complain about the game. You're clearly not playing the game right

[shrewd sparrow]

My point still remains without it's inclusion

[charred gust]

there's no point bro

you're just crying because people don't agree with the fact that you think a game is bad

like i get that you don't enjoy the game, that's your opinion and its your personal opinion

[earnest shale]

I MISSED THIS SO MUCH

[shrewd sparrow]

I am not in the prologue lol, that's just Z2k1 coping that I'm calling the game bad making it seem like I haven't earned the right to criticize it yet

[charred gust]

so like, stop trying to throw it around like its the fact lmfao

[honest crane]

Alright. Tell me what you've done in the game so far

[shrewd sparrow]

My next like story mission is to get parts for Rikki to make boozer an arm or something

The main plot is that I'm looking for dynamite to destroy the freaker nests

[charred gust]

if you were actually able to appreciate the game you would've

like just say it's not your type of game

[shrewd sparrow]

I already said I like lol

[honest crane]

I see. So what made you point out the game being goofy?

[charred gust]

i don't get why you literally went through the effort of recording a video of you and your friend up there laughing at the game, then literally tagged me with it

[shrewd sparrow]

Like every game I play, I appreciate what it does right, and criticize what it does wrong. Unfortunately days gone just gets a LOT wrong

[honest crane]

Such as?

[shrewd sparrow]

Writing, story, mission design, pacing, gunplay, and the main protagonist. (Deacon is his own special fault outside of writing and story just because I think he's THAT bad)

I have positive things to say too

[queen torrent]

When I played the game, it took me around 11-15 hours to get to the main bit. ||(presumming the main bit is when you go to the military island area)||

[shrewd sparrow]

I'm not the type of person to either call a game shit or good... I basically always have good things to say about bad games and bad things to say about good games

I just have a very critical eye

It's not that I don't appreciate it, it's that I'm very vocal on both sides

[honest crane]

I'm mostly interested in story, gunplay and Deacon. Elaborate on those three

[charred gust]

once again, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it

[earnest shale]

They've been back at it for like 1 hour!!!

[charred gust]

not really lmfao

[honest crane]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-fluffy-seal-gif-21617739

[earnest shale]

me when I spread information

[charred gust]

i was just playing a game when this guy tags me with a video thats supposed to prove an imaginary point he has in his head

[icy quarry]

hi guys whats games u play now ?

[honest crane]

Wo Long Fallen Dystany

[earnest shale]

dystany

[charred gust]

imma get a friend of mine to help me laugh at this game like a bunch of r3tards then tag someone with it, like bro @shrewd sparrow just uninstall the game cuz you're clearly not having fun with it anyways

[shrewd sparrow]

The story (so far of course) has been very forgettable and uninteresting. The only performances I've enjoyed have been boozer, Copeland, and sometimes iron Mike. Everyone else is just hard to listen too.

The plot feels very generic, deacon is your average dudeguy savior character who has a very simple motivation in that figuring out what happened to Sarah. That's not all that compelling because I hardly know Sarah, so as the player I simply can't be asked to care about her plot.

The gunplay feels like a dumbed down version of the last of us. Guns feel too weak and too sporadic, the AR specifically feels borderline unusable. The only saving grace is the focus barz which when using it, the gunplay is actually quite satisfying. It just runs out wayy too fast atleast for where I'm at in the game

[earnest shale]

LETS GOOO HE TYPED THE THING

[shrewd sparrow]

Yes because I should leave it to you to tell me what I'm having fun with 😭

[charred gust]

if you're not already familiar with what the game did in terms of revolutionizing the genre since the only other franchise that exists is state of decay, how well hordes play out, how it feels like the best of both worlds between TLOU and an open world game, the weapon selection....

[shrewd sparrow]

You are the arbiter of my fun

[charred gust]

i mean i'm just directing your words back at you my guy

[shrewd sparrow]

How though? I never said I wasn't having fun. Actually many times I said the literal opposite

Because thats just a straight up lie, since I AM having fun

[charred gust]

you literally said "goofy ah game"

[shrewd sparrow]

Because it's a goofy ah game

[charred gust]

like at this point you're just playing it to play it lmfao

[shrewd sparrow]

And goofy games can be fun

[earnest shale]

days gone

[shrewd sparrow]

Not to mention there's a lot I actually like about it

[earnest shale]

gone days

[charred gust]

you criticized the game's plot and said the MC is garbage, the plot and writing is trash, the gunplay as well

[earnest shale]

dias pasados for the bros

[queen torrent]

good

[shrewd sparrow]

Yeah... So what, I have just as many if not more nice things to say about the game

[charred gust]

you said the mission structure and pacing were also bad, like if you genuinely think all of these things are bad i dont see how you could be having fun with the game itself

because in order for it to be enjoyable you should be into atleast one of them, even like the gunplay for example

[shrewd sparrow]

I offered to share but no one but, I guess negativity is just more sensational after all

[earnest shale]

bro there are like 4 things about tlou

[honest crane]

Nah tell me some positive things about the game

I'm still busy observing

[earnest shale]

deleting the game

[honest crane]

[earnest shale]

bro I 100%'d days gone

[honest crane]

Respect

[charred gust]

this is coming from the same guy who tagged me out of nowhere with a video shitting on the game with his friend btw

[earnest shale]

it took me like 60 hours

good shit

[honest crane]

Let me guess. That's you

[earnest shale]

Such a dumb baby

[honest crane]

Bri'ish baby

[queen torrent]

why are you so pissed

[charred gust]

what gave you that impression ?

[queen torrent]

it's quite obvious

[charred gust]

lmfao

[queen torrent]

and funny at the same time.

[charred gust]

are you new to the server ?

[queen torrent]

eh depends.

[honest crane]

I don't think it's always that easy to know if someone is pissed in text

[shrewd sparrow]

Because I

I Like the combat as a whole (just the gunplay is weak, but I enjoy shotguns)

I like the exploration and open world, nothing feels tedious and exploration is very engaging to me

I like the hordes/nests, a big selling point of the game and they keep me on edge the whole time

I LOVE the motorcycle, hands down best motorcycle physics in any game that's not a simulator. The bike feels exactly as it should and the customization is great for motorcycle enjoyers such as myself

And the game looks great. It's a very pretty game, and photo mode is a huge plus because of that

[charred gust]

so you are

[queen torrent]

no not really.

[honest crane]

Plus he's just calmly making his points

[charred gust]

this is regular in this channel

it's called debating

[queen torrent]

most of the time I see ppl talking bout warframe.

[shrewd sparrow]

Oh yeah I also love the weather effects, especially the snow

[queen torrent]

well that's basically just cock and alpvia

[static garnet]

Ohgod

[queen torrent]

anyway death stranding = good.

[honest crane]

The cock and the turk

[charred gust]

once again you're stating your opinion, my question still remains the same, what were you trying to accomplish tagging me with that video from above ?

[shrewd sparrow]

What do you mean what was I trying to accomplish?

[queen torrent]

mhm

good combo.

[shrewd sparrow]

I usually just ping anyone I know is interested in the game if I'm sending something about a game

[charred gust]

like what is the point cuz i still don't get it

[shrewd sparrow]

For example if I sent something about DS2 I would have pinged you

Or something about Tekken

[charred gust]

i just saw the ping and saw nothing about it

[shrewd sparrow]

There was no point you're looking way too deep into it

[charred gust]

oh

[honest crane]

I guess he just wanted to show a funny clip

[charred gust]

in that case, have fun with the game then

[honest crane]

Lmfao

It all came down to this

After many misunderstandings

[shrewd sparrow]

Also not to mention, goofing in the story is partly what's making the game more enjoyable. It's the same thing I did with DL2 at around halfway through

Even with DL1

I make fun of DL1 everytime I play through it with friends, especially the Tahir death scene

Mind you, I fucking love dl1

[charred gust]

yeah i don't follow

while i'm here

@harsh tree odyssey is so goated rn its insane

its way too long for its own good thats for sure

but the stuff that it did up from origins is giving me a 2018 to ragnarok vibes

[shrewd sparrow]

I think doorslob doesn't like odyssey

[charred gust]

that one section where you have to solve the light puzzle was nice, wish there were more

[queen torrent]

be honest, is odyssey good?

[shrewd sparrow]

Yes

[queen torrent]

like genuinely

[shrewd sparrow]

Yes

[queen torrent]

I've only seen ppl shit on it.

[earnest shale]

No.

[charred gust]

i just said its goated

[honest crane]

It's a lot of ups and downs to it

[queen torrent]

I'm missing my frontal lobe.

anyway

[charred gust]

it happens

[shrewd sparrow]

Because it's "not assassin's Creed" then you ask them to define what "assassin's Creed" is and they consistently can't

[queen torrent]

what are the ups?

[charred gust]

nah its not that, i think people just had the oversaturation effect with it

[queen torrent]

apparently the story doesn't revolve around assassins as much

if that makes any sense.

I heard it's like Origins though

and i enjoyed that so.

[shrewd sparrow]

I've yet to ever hear someone explain what a "real ac game is"

They go "well social stealth, hooded man, ancient city" well well well hold on what about black flag, everyone's favorite dick ride material

[honest crane]

The gameplay and the open world

[earnest shale]

Nah its not like origins

[charred gust]

when people play a bunch of games in succession that have the same basis / formula at their core they eventually get tired of one and think its trash

[shrewd sparrow]

In terms of gameplay and scope yes, the stories are very different though. Origins actually revolves around the assassin's, odyssey really doesnt

[honest crane]

I still wonder why so many people love it, meanwhile they shit on Origins and Odyssey for no reason

[charred gust]

isnt it the opposite

[charred gust]

oh nvm i just read the actual reply

yeah no black flag was also goated for its time

[earnest shale]

They shit on odyssey but ac 4 has one of the features that appears in odyssey

[honest crane]

I agree

[shrewd sparrow]

Cherry picking. AC4 is nostalgic, it's also just a great game. Yet for some reason people can overlook that it has very little to do with assassin's but can't do the same for the newer games

[charred gust]

apart from syndicate they were all goated

[shrewd sparrow]

I mean... I love black flag, I also love origins... And quite like odyssey

[honest crane]

It's just that those same people who say Black Flag was goated, say that everything from the new Assassin's Creed is ass for dumb reasons

[queen torrent]

Probably because of the gameplay change, a lot of ppl hated the shift to a more rpg centred game

[charred gust]

syndicate was trash because it's a far cry primal - 6 / wildlands / breakpoint type copy pasted game

altho they only did it for one sequence

the assassination missions were goated, jack the ripper too

[shrewd sparrow]

Yes but most ac fans have totally come around to origins and now they love it, but odyssey? Why not? That's why I don't think it's actually for gameplay reasons, atleast that's not the main thinh

[charred gust]

it somehow looked worse than unity too, the royal guard were goated

[charred gust]

odyssey is literally black flag 2

same vibes all around

[shrewd sparrow]

Syndicate isn't really trash. Really no ac game I'd call trash... None of them I'd call "amazing" either besides like 3 or 4 of them

Most assassin's Creed games are basically the epitome of "mid"

[charred gust]

it had the copy pasted mission structure they brought from far cry primal

and its the only game to actually have that blatantly be put in it

[earnest shale]

People dont like ac odyssey because it is the ac game that doesnt have what defines the "Assassins Creed" franchise

Like, its the most different ac

[charred gust]

that type of mission design put randomly in sequence 7 iirc was just......yuck

it's like they decided hey guys lets take a break for this sequence

[shrewd sparrow]

Syndicate was a big downgrade from unity, and the structure of open world activities was pretty bad, the story wasn't great but it had some good stuff like level design, world design, (1-1 London) Jack dlc, cool combat, among other things

[charred gust]

the thing is people eventually complain on both sides

you make 5 games about assassins in a row they'll say you're doing the same shit

you try to go away from the franchise they'll also blame you for that

no win win

[earnest shale]

We should have had a Bayek trilogy, he was so well received he really deserved it

but hey

[shrewd sparrow]

But so what. Why can't you consider it a spinoff or better yet don't base your opinion on a game by it's title

I could say that assassin's Creed is about Spartans and RPG mechanics and I'm not wrong

Atleast one of them is about that

Same as one being about a pirate

Or a medjay

Or a viking

Sure someo of them are about roved men with a secret blade, but why FORCE that to be the criteria? Change is good, and odyssey was a very fresh take on the series

[charred gust]

what people missed with odyssey i feel is ubisoft made 8 games and 1 standalone expansion focusing on the assassins and the pieces of eden but never actually explored that theme more

so it was long overdue

[charred gust]

origins was the fresh take on the franchise since bayek isn't even an assassin until the end of the main game, they're not even called the assassins just the hidden ones

[shrewd sparrow]

I'll take a great open world ARPG over hooded man checklist any day as long as it's done right. Hooded man checklist can be done right too, it just became stale. We needed a switch up after unity and syndicate

[charred gust]

its the same shit across all franchises

people loved MW19, hated vanguard

they love MW22 again

[shrewd sparrow]

Syndicate actually made a step forward in terms of hitlist missions. The game literally felt like hitman sometimes

[charred gust]

mirage could also be an RPG and people will probably love it just for the theme and the fact that they had all this time of not playing AC

they shit on odyssey and valhalla so they need a game to play again for the rebound and love

same with how people didn't like cold war and vanguard

[earnest shale]

The roved men with a secret blade is what made the franchise recognizable, there is always a forced criteria for most of games to make them what they are.

[queen torrent]

what happened with vanguard?
just heard from ppl that it's shit.

[shrewd sparrow]

The thing about Valhalla though is that it falls flat in a lot of regards and downgraded a lot from origins and odyssey, so it kinda deserves it

Valhalla did too much wrong, it failed to capitalize and continue what made its predecessors great

[charred gust]

i wouldnt say it got stale, unity is still a goated game, syndicate was what fucked it and its not a fault of the game itself atleast for me personally, the theme just never clicked with me, i didn't like london as a city nearly as much as i did with paris, and so that kinda just spoiled the game from being excited over playing it

[charred gust]

yeah people say its shit, but gameplay wise its the same as MW19, they even brought back tac sprint

its literally a reskin if anything

[shrewd sparrow]

No unitys pacing is awful. The story is on rails and it's just "go kill this guy" repeated over 20 hours. Syndicate did a better job in the pacing and level design but it was still too little too late. The series needed origins.

[charred gust]

aren't you committing the same thing here that you criticize people for ?

since what you just described is literally AC1 too

[shrewd sparrow]

Yeah, and?

[charred gust]

so you're making the same mistake you complain people make with the old games

[shrewd sparrow]

How?

[charred gust]

what's your take on AC1 ?

the story

[shrewd sparrow]

The story is good but the level design is very dated. Go here, kill him... Then suddenly credits

[charred gust]

so you're saying AC1's story is good for that

but unity's is trash

even tho they're the same thing

[shrewd sparrow]

No, because that isn't what I said

[charred gust]

ok then what did you say

like i'm trying to make you see the contradiction you're making with yourself

AC1 gets a pass for it but unity is shit for it

[queen torrent]

what was the campaign like then? if the gameplay was essentially the same as mw19 then surely the issues had to lie with content within the game itself?

[charred gust]

idk if i'm the right person to talk about the campaigns since they're all the same to me but i liked both of them, MW19's was better tho for sure apart from that mission where they tried to rewrite history

in terms of content vanguard's zombies was trash, it had 4 maps 2 of which were recycled

multiplayer was a reskinned MW19

[shrewd sparrow]

I'm literally saying the level design in unity is bad because it's just hitlist gameplay. Kill after kill. It was the series return to form because of how many people complained about 3 and 4 straying too far from what "AC is" so they returned to the level design of the early games, a dated level design. And of course very little people actually liked that because it was repetitive and just not fun.

Syndicate actually brought more to the table and innovated that format for the modern (at the time) gaming scene, but again it was too little too late. Especially after unity, many players were ready to give up on the series.

That's why origins really freshened it up, because they took that hitlist format, dialed it back, and made it a very narrative driven game. You are still assassinating targets, but they are all very unique and fleshed out with full story arcs as bayek grows as a person

There's no contradiction here, it's just that some games did it better than others

Not to mention ac1 has a great story, unity didn't

[shrewd sparrow]

Meaning narrative not gameplay

[charred gust]

i still don't see how syndicate innovated from unity when it was just a shittier version of the game, you're going around growing your gang with repetitive activities doing the same shit throughout the game, it has one of the worst villains ive ever seen in any video game ever

ironically the only part from the main story i liked is that mission where you go to the kenway mansion and go downstairs

which was one of the last missions iirc

[earnest shale]

such a goated mission

and a good fanservice

[charred gust]

like if i had to pick one thing from syndicate i'd keep that would be the assassination missions

the zipline too i guess but i'd improve upon it

oh and one of the worst things i hated about it is the new combat they made, it feels like you're watching a cartoon

i remember a shitload of missions had you playing that straight out of 2009 gameplay of ramming people with a vehicle, i'm pretty sure if i went and replayed it i'd feel the same way i did with black flag where it would just shatter what i remember of the game, even tho its already pretty low

[shrewd sparrow]

Im just saying syndicate had better level design. The assassination missions were so much better than unity

Unity just had you sneaking into a place and assassinating a guy, very ac1-ish

Syndicates assassination missions were much less linear and we're all very unique. You had multiple entry ways, you could walk with a guard to avoid detection, you could talk to the npc's and they would share secrets or hidden passageways or such with you, etc etc. It felt like it was inspired by hitman more than AC, and the assassination missions were much more dynamic...

You seem to be thinking I'm saying syndicate is better than unity, or that syndicates story is better... I'm not, I'm just saying it did AC1s hitlist format better than unity did

[shrewd sparrow]

That's very early in the game

[charred gust]

oh, yeah the assasination missions were goated, straight out of hitman 3

[charred gust]

oh

the only things i remember from the game is the prologue in the factory, that one mission where you're in a castle or something, then the absolute last thing where you meet with that woman

was she the queen or something

they like become friends with her and shit

[shrewd sparrow]

What about the WW1 sequence?

[charred gust]

oh and the face of beat up jacob once evie saves his ass

[shrewd sparrow]

Yes, she knights Evie and Jacob

It's hella goofy

[charred gust]

don't remember that

i remember those detective sequences

come here investigate this gather clues then fuck off

[shrewd sparrow]

They were just unity's murder mysteries without the depth and the... Mystery

[charred gust]

the fact that evie in her 40's still beat jack

insane

jacob could've also killed him but he saw him as his kid so he couldn't

[shrewd sparrow]

That dlc is really great

[charred gust]

they really make you feel like the country's fucked with how jack is running around and even jacob couldn't get himself to stop him, dark vibes all around

[shrewd sparrow]

It finally gave Jacob a personality. To watch this bumbling careless idiot express a genuinely emotion finally... Man was genuinely scared of Jack

No jokes, no quirky banter, just fear and sadness

It's crazy how the best thing they did to the game about two assassin twins who work together was to separate them

[charred gust]

they failed at the aspect of having duality

as most games do

[shrewd sparrow]

You only see both characters on screen at once in gameplay like a handful of times

I could count on my fingers how many times Evie and Jacob actually team up

But magically the other twin just appears in every cutscene. Totally immersion breaking

[charred gust]

if you're gonna have 2 playable characters in a game and just have the player press a button to switch models between them you might as well just have 2 generic randomly generated souls like bots

which is why i hope GTA 6 doesn't do that

knowing how they did it with 5 they won't

that's actually having different characters with their own narrative and not just being reskins

[charred gust]

i was expecting each to have their own story missions that only they can do

[shrewd sparrow]

They do

[charred gust]

and then somehow their narrative ties together at the end

[shrewd sparrow]

It's just Evie only has a few, because Ubisoft can't commit to a female protagonist

The story is dominated by Jacob

[charred gust]

they do ? because i honestly don't remember that, and usually that means it wasnt that significant

like legit the only mission i remember doing as evie is that one where you go kill that crazy scientist / chemical guy

he had some artifact you had to get

the mission starts in like some sort of railway station or whatever

[queen torrent]

that's literally the first mission of the game
Well it's the 2nd.

[shrewd sparrow]

Every main story mission can only be played with one of the twins. It's just there's only a few Evie missions

[charred gust]

https://tenor.com/view/chonky-cat-chonk-cats-cute-tickle-gif-22976826

you deserve a chonky cat tickle for saying that shit

[shrewd sparrow]

He's not wrong

That's before they even get to London

[queen torrent]

thank you thank you

thb

[charred gust]

wasn't the first mission the one where you're playing as jacob in that factory ?

[queen torrent]

*tbh

yeah

[shrewd sparrow]

Yes

[queen torrent]

but yk how after you complete a mission it normally comes up with sequence completed or smth like that

[shrewd sparrow]

Then it cuts to Evie sneaking around a railyard

[queen torrent]

it only comes up after evie's one

[charred gust]

yeah that's not the same mission i was talking about

[shrewd sparrow]

And she steals a piece of eden

[charred gust]

one second i'll find the one im talking about

[shrewd sparrow]

From the scientist

[queen torrent]

you're talking about the 2nd one

the one where a piece of eden explodes.

[shrewd sparrow]

It's literally the inciting action for the entire game

Then Jacob wants to go take over London because character motivation is too hard for Ubisoft

And they jump on a train

[charred gust]

i found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xysDh4j33L0

[charred gust]

i remember they had their own train and shit

[shrewd sparrow]

Yes we know what mission you're talking about

[charred gust]

built an HQ inside of it

[shrewd sparrow]

It's the beginning of the game lol

This is the tutorial for stealth

[queen torrent]

yk what would be a better motivation?
jacob and evie's father was an assassin i think, so what if (hear me out) the main antag of the game (who's a templar) kills father assassin (crazy ik)

[charred gust]

its funny because this is how scrambled my memory of that game is

so you want another unity

🤝

[queen torrent]

no no

unity bad

parkour was the only good thing

[shrewd sparrow]

And paris

[queen torrent]

fair.

[shrewd sparrow]

Paris is one of the best designed cities in all of gaming fr

[charred gust]

hot take but after playing valhalla thats the parkour i want

no awkward freezing mid climb

an actual dynamic camera for when you're climbing hills

[queen torrent]

you want val climbing?

eh every has their own preferences.

[charred gust]

instead of having it just stick to the back of the protagonist and zoomed in like a drone

[shrewd sparrow]

Unitys combat isn't bad either. It's clunky but you geg used to it

The best parkour is still rev

Unity almost nailed it

But Arno is clunky and unresponsive

Too animation based

[queen torrent]

they just didn't explain it at all

[charred gust]

its just smooth

[queen torrent]

fair

[charred gust]

i'd rather have a system that doesnt fuck up and be awkward, especially when you're climbing

[queen torrent]

literally they tell you to parkour by saying "hold down free-run and forward"

[charred gust]

exactly

its climbing, there shouldn't be much to it

[queen torrent]

don't teach you about any of the mechanics.

[shrewd sparrow]

If we could have a parkour system with the depth and animation quality of unity and the controls and responsiveness of the ezio games we have a perfect system

[charred gust]

the only thing it should have is the decision of where do you wanna go, and can you go up that route ?

[queen torrent]

anyway speaking of wasted mechanics in a game, just found out that shadow of the tomb raider has a potion / armor crafting system

[charred gust]

like in origins when you're climbing the pyramids you have to decide which path to take to get up there

[shrewd sparrow]

Basically Ubisoft always does this. Over explain the basic stuff and under explain (or don't explain) the complex stuff

[queen torrent]

mhm

[shrewd sparrow]

Then they just totally gutted the parkour in syndicate instead of actually polishing it

[charred gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aimSIIo1wTw

[shrewd sparrow]

They just give you a fucking grapple hook, the equivalent of giving up imo

[charred gust]

this specific part in valhalla is one of the best gaming locations ive ever seen in a game

like the snowy mountains of it are goated i'll die on this hill

don't care that it's not AC and that its vikings and in norway, its just too good

[shrewd sparrow]

Norway sucks in that game

[charred gust]

i liked it

people shit on valhalla's world but it just clicked with me

[shrewd sparrow]

Too much water

[charred gust]

absolutely loved the aesthetic

especially the mountains

[shrewd sparrow]

It's good as the prologue but everywhere else like Ireland, France, isle of Skye, all much better

[charred gust]

there's so much ground to explore and it gives you that rush of like how do i get there

[shrewd sparrow]

Even the snowy region of England is better

[charred gust]

which is a lost art i feel like people don't appreciate anymore

[shrewd sparrow]

I like Valhallas world well enough I just didn't like norway

[charred gust]

people don't just turn off the HUD and run around in games, explore, climb mountains

[shrewd sparrow]

I do

[charred gust]

they gotta turn on game, go to quest marker, do mission

and then blame games for having open worlds that are big

like for me personally the immediate impulse if an area doesnt have story is it's still an area that's in the game, and you might like the vibe if you actually give it a chance and explore it

its like riders republic, ubisoft's embodiment of big open worlds, but its great because you just hop on a bike and ride around the map, or get a wingsuit and fly around

i'm so looking forward to the crew wildfest

i hope they give us an open world thats also glorious in that game

so forza horizon's playground games actually innovate with competition

[shrewd sparrow]

That's why I like the new ghost recon games. If you take the time to soak up the world of Wildlands it's so full of life, so much going on and so much detail. Most people just ran through all that on their way to the next mission and it only served as set dressing

When if you turn the HUD off and just take a walk through one of the bigger cities, you'll see the details and feel how much soul is in the world

Breakpoint on the other hand was just dull and sterile. No details, no life, no soul

Just jungles and futuristic warehouses with one big highway in between

[queen torrent]

Hey don't forget the few futuristic housing areas!!!

[charred gust]

i played wildlands for like 20 hours but i just couldn't get myself to play it anymore, the clear region system was so painfully obvious and repetitive that i just went , the only game i finished from ubisoft with that formula was far cry primal but that was because i liked the world and really enjoyed the gameplay

so i was able to just let it slide and keep playing

throwing a spear never got old for me

[shrewd sparrow]

Ghost recon mission design isn't good but imo it doesn't have to be. I personally prefer Wildlands very loose mission structure over breakpoints more narrative based structure because Wildlands just gave me a lot more freedom to take on the missions and bases on my own terms

Like mgsv

Basic mission structure, but the open world and utility allows for great gameplay scenarios

And Wildlands is just very immersive. Especially since enemies have schedules. They sleep, eat, take guard, have conversations.in different spots, etc etc. All this you can study

It still baffled me that enemy schedules were just flat out removed from breakpoint

In BP they just walk in their scripted guard path never breaking unless you alert them,.it's like it's 2010 again

[queen torrent]

they made a cool system

that made each run of the game more different

and then removed it.

[shrewd sparrow]

Exactly 1 step forward and 2 back

[queen torrent]

also playing grw in first person is a completely different experience.

(it's a mod)

very fun

[charred gust]

all this ubisoft talk reminds me

[shrewd sparrow]

There is something so satisfying about taking a Wildlands UNIDAD base during a dark and stormy night and meleeing all the guards as the sleep

[charred gust]

@honest crane ubisoft+ still isnt on xbox

[shrewd sparrow]

Yeah it looks amazing

[charred gust]

https://tenor.com/view/forced-to-play-gif-20710116

[shrewd sparrow]

I'm saving up for a new PC, that Wildlands mod is one of the big things I wanna play

And ready or not

And star citizen

[honest crane]

Yeah it's definitely not coming soon™

[charred gust]

its been a month

[charred gust]

im thinking they're saving it for their event

like at E3

[honest crane]

Could be a good time

[charred gust]

totally not cope

[honest crane]

The amount of cope I'm feeling from you

[charred gust]

the thing is we know its coming cuz like those guys who datamined the microsoft store

the overlay is literally there

[honest crane]

[charred gust]

like theres absolutely no reason they'd upload it if it wasnt coming

right

https://tenor.com/view/forced-to-play-gif-20710116

[shrewd sparrow]

Huff huff huff

Careful you might blow down the piggies house with all that huffing

[honest crane]

"technical difficulties"

[charred gust]

mfs are gonna take 2 years

to bring something they announced themselves

at this point im thinking theres some exclusivity deal with sony they're waiting on to expire

@honest crane

did you see this shit ?

what are the odds

like WOW

[honest crane]

Ayo?

[charred gust]

@earnest shale https://www.operationsports.com/ea-sports-pga-tour-interview-with-development-team-gameplay/

"OS: As we understand it, consoles will be capped at 30FPS. Will the PC version be uncapped or allow 60FPS?

CP: That’s correct regarding consoles at 30 FPS. And YES… PC has options for 30FPS, 60FPS, and unlocked framerate."

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mc-mahon-gulp-gulps-oof-yikes-gif-14678139

[queen torrent]

oo

urm

who's gonna tell them?

[charred gust]

they already have his performance

but like fr @honest crane

why is that ea sports pga tour gonna be 30 fps

like if it was any other game i'd understand

leave it to EA to pull something like this

[honest crane]

Golf game at 30 FPS lol

Why that out of anything

So random

[honest crane]

Unless they pull an ass argument over optimization

[charred gust]

real

its so random too

[earnest shale]

L

[earnest shale]

goated game

[honest crane]

It's like as if Wii Sports removed a game mode for extra performance

[earnest shale]

Truly a fun experience with friends

[honest crane]

Same energy

[charred gust]

its not even about the game itself too

but just what it implicates

industry sees this type of shit every time and goes "well lets also do it!"

[west locust]

its weird to me that capcom wont release classic ps1 resident evil games again

especially when they all had ancient pc ports

literally just free money for them cuz a lot of people would buy these

[charred gust]

they remastered 0 and 1

[west locust]

im talking about originals + theres no way to buy original 2 and 3 nowadays

[charred gust]

oh, yeah no

[merry igloo]

Which one is better

[jagged lava]

definitely top one

[hidden flax]

I’m loving the photo mode that I just discovered

[devout berry]

re4 remake is out?

[hidden flax]

No this is the Chainsaw Demo

Yeah the demos got a photo mode

[devout berry]

ok

y'all ever played risk of rain 2?

[vital vector]

Played it a bit, had no idea what was going on and refunded it.