🎯︱other-games

[leaden orchid]

Hopefully the patch worked

[manic hill]

@earnest shale got 🎁 Present!

[shrewd sparrow]

Imma head out before Z2K1 sees dis shi

[jagged lava]

context?

[leaden orchid]

I'm not gonna get into the game again

[jagged lava]

actually let me just scroll up

[earnest shale]

you should

[leaden orchid]

Chat died cus Callisto

[raven vale]

Lol

[leaden orchid]

Let's go back to goated games

[earnest shale]

fr

Bloodborne is

simply

the goat

[raven vale]

I have yet to beat it

[jagged lava]

ok I can't be fucked reading

worth a buy tho?

[raven vale]

Stuck on the fucking white head monster in the church building

[leaden orchid]

I'll have a final judgement of the game once I'm finished with it

[earnest shale]

I wanted to buy tlou 2 but missed it cause no money

[leaden orchid]

For now it's not worth my money though

[charred gust]

Tekken Tag Tournament 1 / GOW (2018), can also be ragnarok i just haven't finished it yet
Prince of Persia : Two Thrones / RDR2
Dragon Ball Z : Infinite World / Arkham Knight
Crash Bandicoot 3 : Warped / RE2 Remake
Max Payne 1 / The Order 1886

legit i couldnt not include the other half

[earnest shale]

wow that's plenty of favourite videogames

[charred gust]

this is why i always say the best games of all time argument doesnt work

[leaden orchid]

That's like a top 10

[raven vale]

How long is GOW:R

I’ve heard it’s like 26+hours

[charred gust]

like i love my #1 for the last gen the same way i loved my previous #1 in the one before it

[leaden orchid]

xqc streamed for 26 hours to finish GOWR in one sitting

[charred gust]

so like it just doesnt work, you can't compare 2 goats since that was your max

[leaden orchid]

And he rushed the main story

[jagged lava]

wow

[earnest shale]

its not that long

[jagged lava]

waiting the 2 years for pc port

let's go

[raven vale]

Holy shit, 26 hours for just the story

[earnest shale]

i thought it would be longer

[raven vale]

I’m in for a long weekend when I get the game

[fossil sequoia]

@charred gust
Still loving Callisto?

[earnest shale]

god not again

[manic hill]

@earnest shale got 🎁 Present!

[raven vale]

We can’t get away from it

[jagged lava]

it's fated to be

let it happen

[earnest shale]

anyway

now

[manic hill]

@jagged lava got 🎁 Present!

[earnest shale]

we should go deep into the goated games

And jump to

[charred gust]

if i ever feel its mid i'll be sure to point it out

[fossil sequoia]

Y'all needa shut up lmao. I asked a simple fucking question

[leaden orchid]

My goated list is different to my list of "games I would choose to play if I was stuck on an island with nothing else to do"

[earnest shale]

THE BEST MAIN CHARACTERS

[jagged lava]

idek if i have a favourite game list

[raven vale]

I miss Sly Cooper :<

[jagged lava]

i just like games or don't like games

[leaden orchid]

Which are:

• Civ 5
• Fallout New Vegas
• Fallout 4
• Skyrim
• TWD Saints & Sinners

[charred gust]

hol up i gotta pause for this

best mcs ?

[earnest shale]

oh right

[leaden orchid]

In games right?

[raven vale]

Idek

[earnest shale]

yeah

[charred gust]

aight

[earnest shale]

this is othergames

[fossil sequoia]

Joel better be on this list

[jagged lava]

best mc is clearly red crewmate from among sus

[leaden orchid]

Hmm

[earnest shale]

I will go for

Nathan Drake

the goat

[leaden orchid]

I would say someone like DOOM guy but he's not really a character

So I'll make my list based on characters

[charred gust]

1. Arthur Morgan
2. Kazuma Kiryu
3. Max Payne
4. Joel
5. Leon Kennedy

[fossil sequoia]

Master chief would be like the Doom guy equivalent who is actually like a character

[earnest shale]

that was quicker than before

[raven vale]

I like Ethan winters too much and idk why

[charred gust]

yeah with characters they're more obvious to me atleast tbh

[raven vale]

He seems, strange but interesting

[jagged lava]

ethan winters is pretty bad imo

[fossil sequoia]

I think you're doing Leon dirty with fifth place.

[charred gust]

and you'll notice i didnt include characters from those fav games, in order to be in this list for me it needs more influence, much more regardless of the game itself

[jagged lava]

just because he cannot convey emotion to save his life

[raven vale]

True but like, he kinda moldy

Man can survive anything

[charred gust]

i lowkey think 5th place is still honorable, cuz like these are characters we're talking about

[raven vale]

And it’s kinda crazy

All because he’s made of goop

[jagged lava]

and resident evil isn't exactly the most well written series out there

[charred gust]

i also didnt wanna put in the meme characters like doom slayer, mario, or someone from a fighting game character

[jagged lava]

it's just iconic

[earnest shale]

Mine is:

-Nathan Drake
-Arthur Morgan

• Delsin Rowe
• Jin Sakai
• idk

[fossil sequoia]

I'd have Jole and Ellie in my list for sure. TLOU1&2 are fantastic

[jagged lava]

jin Sakai is a good one

[earnest shale]

i'm a very playstation guy

[charred gust]

did you just say delsin rowe ?

[jagged lava]

I'd put him higher i think

[charred gust]

AND JIN SAKAI ?

[earnest shale]

yeah

[raven vale]

Delsin Row is a name I haven’t heard in a while

[charred gust]

my man, come here

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[earnest shale]

[charred gust]

gimme that hand

[earnest shale]

i cant find the emoji

[raven vale]

Lol

[earnest shale]

wait

🤝

[charred gust]

https://tenor.com/view/salutations-salutations-my-good-chum-seal-the-creature-lovethisseal-gif-24195290

[jagged lava]

can't think of many other well written godo characters tbh

[earnest shale]

Kratos probably

mf has like 10 games

[jagged lava]

kratos is good true

[stark oyster]

True, but I didn't know that my first playthrough.

[earnest shale]

COME ON KIPPIE

[stark oyster]

I just used whatever I had.

[stark oyster]

With what?

[earnest shale]

you are too late

[charred gust]

i considered him in mine but when i put him next to arthur i feel like i could relate more to being a bandit who felt remorse than a greek general who killed gods

[stark oyster]

too bad

[earnest shale]

[leaden orchid]

• Isaac Clarke
• Arbiter (Thel 'Vadamee)
• Kratos
• Simon (from Cry of Fear)
• Emily Kaldwin / Corvo Attano

[raven vale]

Omg dishonored

[stark oyster]

Corvo

[raven vale]

I need to play that game again

[earnest shale]

dishonored 🐐

[leaden orchid]

If it wasn't the second game, I wouldn't have them on the list

[jagged lava]

oh yeah that's a good list

[fossil sequoia]

@leaden orchid
Yes. Yes yes. Thel is a beautiful bastard

[jagged lava]

everytime I can't think of good characters they come up

[leaden orchid]

But we get a lot more expression of character from both of them there

[raven vale]

I felt very disappointed with deathloop

[earnest shale]

me too

[leaden orchid]

Everyone praises Chief

But lets be real

He's not much of a character

[fossil sequoia]

Thel is bae

[leaden orchid]

He's a shoe for the player to fill

[raven vale]

True

[leaden orchid]

Thel on the other hand is a proper character

[earnest shale]

I would have added doom slayer but

[jagged lava]

i don't think silent/rarely speaking characters should be on a best characters list

[earnest shale]

that

[stark oyster]

Doom slayer is another example of a shallow character

[jagged lava]

unless they're like insanely well written for some reason

[leaden orchid]

Isaac would still be good even from DS1

Despite not speaking at all

[jagged lava]

isaac is good

[leaden orchid]

Because we get a lot of a personal connection with him and the story and how it affects him

[stark oyster]

The way he interacts with everything speaks for him

[leaden orchid]

^^

[jagged lava]

he does speak for a decent amount of time in the sequels tho

and the story connects with him very well

[leaden orchid]

When he turns to the right at the end of DS2, only to see Ellie instead was a fantastic piece of development. His nightmares have finally ended

Because he metaphorically fights his dead wife during the endgame sequence

[charred gust]

the ending was cool

they showed she was actually in human form and didnt yell

[stark oyster]

The ambience in Ds1 was literally just his medical record

[charred gust]

basically accepting him this time around and what he's accomplished

"I trusted you, you lied to me, fuck you!"

he said enough

[manic hill]

@earnest shale got 🎁 Present!

[stark oyster]

"Longing for his girlfriend has made him extremely sad and isolated" or something like that

[leaden orchid]

It did two things:

• Call back to the first game's ending.
• Wrap up the personal struggle and journey he had with the Marker personifying his grief of his dead wife.

[raven vale]

-Ezio
-Crane
-Sly Cooper
-Connor Kenway
-Ellie (TLOU1&2)

[manic hill]

@stark oyster got 🎁 Present!

[raven vale]

Finally found my list :/

[earnest shale]

I would Replace connor for Edward

he redeemed himself ffrom his mistakes

[manic hill]

@stark oyster got 🎁 Present!

[charred gust]

sly cooper ?

[stark oyster]

I barely played any AC games

[charred gust]

come here

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[raven vale]

Lol

Sly cooper was the first actual video game I ever played as a kid

Well, the second sly cooper game that is

[charred gust]

i already know your list

5 vergils

[earnest shale]

mine was Star Wars The Force Unleashed

[earnest shale]

you forgot nero and dante

[stark oyster]

Vergil is one of my favorite characters yes, but not the only one.

[raven vale]

My first “video game” was reader rabbit on the wii when I was 5

[charred gust]

mf's list would be vergil nero dante trish and lady

[stark oyster]

Nope

I don't like Trish nor Lady

[charred gust]

gloria then

[stark oyster]

Both mid characters

[charred gust]

[earnest shale]

probably nico

[stark oyster]

Nope

[leaden orchid]

Ah man how could I forget Ezio

[stark oyster]

Also no

[leaden orchid]

The bread and butter of AC storytelling

[earnest shale]

fr

[charred gust]

mf about to say sparda

[stark oyster]

Tf

[charred gust]

whats your list then

[raven vale]

The ezio trilogy are probably the best AC games out there, brotherhood was my favorite of the 3

[earnest shale]

brotherhood is my favourite AC

[leaden orchid]

How about

[stark oyster]

My personality isn't just DMC bro

[manic hill]

@upbeat whale got 🎁 Present!

[charred gust]

no way

[earnest shale]

you show yourself like it is

[leaden orchid]

List of ANTAGONISTS

They have to be the opposition / enemy / boss / counter to the MC of a game.

[stark oyster]

[charred gust]

hol up i need to pause again

this one's good

[earnest shale]

this is a good one

let me think

[raven vale]

Oh god Idek

[manic hill]

@upbeat whale got 🎁 Present!

[stark oyster]

@upbeat whale lurker

[manic hill]

@upbeat whale got 🎁 Present!

[stark oyster]

Whay

What the fuck

[molten pewter]

bugged present

[stark oyster]

Bugged event

[molten pewter]

Techland event

[stark oyster]

Techland engineering

Polish engineering

[raven vale]

Best thing ever

[leaden orchid]

Literally Polish engineering

Because Mmesek

[stark oyster]

Mmesek engineering

[manic hill]

@stark oyster got 🎁 Present!

[earnest shale]

• Rodrigo Borgia
• Cesare Borgia
• Micah Bell
• Rafe Adler
• idk

Cant think at the moment

[stark oyster]

[earnest shale]

aussie got us thinking lmao

[leaden orchid]

ok ngl I only recognise the first two, had to look up the others

[earnest shale]

I included both borgias cause I just hate them for what they have done to Ezio

[manic hill]

@upbeat whale got 🎁 Present!

[earnest shale]

you should play Uncharted 4, its on pc

[raven vale]

Minecraft creeper is a pretty good antagonist ngl

[charred gust]

1. Zeus
2. Joseph
3. The Crooked Man / Bloody Mary (The Wolf Among Us)
4. Brian Cox (Manhunt 1)
5. Wesker

[upbeat whale]

i agree

[strange wadi]

I remember when caco was your personality

[raven vale]

Joseph seed?

[shrewd sparrow]

Micah bell
Vaas' Montenegro
Ludwig, the holy blade which is technically just a boss fight but I count him because of his lore
General Shepherd
I have a 5th I just can't think rn

[stark oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-poopm-peem-gaming-enemy-gif-16502341

[charred gust]

yeah

[leaden orchid]

These are great

[shrewd sparrow]

U guys already do protagonist

[earnest shale]

yeah

[leaden orchid]

I was gonna put Makarov instead of Shephard, but tbh I actually completely understand Shephard's motivations way more than Makarov

Makarov is just ha ha war and kill

[manic hill]

@earnest shale got 🎁 Present!

[earnest shale]

I just remembered

[strange wadi]

handsome jacques

[earnest shale]

a really good one

Waltz

(This is a joke)

[charred gust]

borderlands ?

alright show me that hand

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[strange wadi]

Me when waltz says the name of the game in the dialogue

[leaden orchid]

Wesker probably has the most swagger an antagonist could have

While also having the brains and brawn to match it

[earnest shale]

peak gaming scene

[strange wadi]

Mhm

[stark oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/albert-wesker-resident-evil-red-pilled-based-wesker-gif-24288125

[charred gust]

trying to do any damage to him in his boss fight and him just dodging is just like

[shrewd sparrow]

😐

[charred gust]

[shrewd sparrow]

This deeply upsets me

[charred gust]

like bitch stop let me hit you

[leaden orchid]

I mean there's what 2016 and Eternal tried to do, but I wouldn't realy count that much has been done

He is an ultra gigachad badass

But as a character? I'm not so sure

[charred gust]

also joseph could've honestly been my #1 easily

i hated how he's in the wrong but he always gets his way

[strange wadi]

he's both wrong and right at the same time ‼️

[leaden orchid]

I would probably put Vaas as my no1 villain for Far Cry

[strange wadi]

his motives are good but bad execution

"good"

kinda

[stark oyster]

I like Pagan Min a lot

[charred gust]

i honestly actually like vaas, like he was insane and all but atleast he was legit and true to himself, which is why i dont hate him

[shrewd sparrow]

What about the books and all the other deep lore that's been drip fed over 25 years

[stark oyster]

Very charismatic

[charred gust]

same with pagan min, i liked him

[strange wadi]

13 minute lunch

[stark oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/im-very-particular-with-my-words-far-cry4-far-cry-pagan-min-gif-23401356

[shrewd sparrow]

Doomguy has very simple motivations but very deep lore

[leaden orchid]

Again, not much really other than the journey he's been through

[charred gust]

KILL HIM WITH A PEN

john wick style

ice cold

[manic hill]

@stark oyster got 🎁 Present!

[leaden orchid]

The lore is deep, just not DOOM guy

[earnest shale]

john wick killed with a pencil

[stark oyster]

His poor rabbit...

[earnest shale]

not a pen

[stark oyster]

Daisy...

[earnest shale]

[leaden orchid]

Yeah it was Jason Bourne who killed with a pen

[charred gust]

[leaden orchid]

[strange wadi]

all the demons had to do was not kill the funny flower name rabbit

[earnest shale]

goated trilogy

[shrewd sparrow]

I wouldn't put him in my top 5 but I'm just saying he's definitely a character. There's a lot of stuff you can learn about him by reading the books and also just following along with the story

[earnest shale]

I wont count the fourth

[leaden orchid]

What books are there?

I've only watched lore videos and saw the comic

[earnest shale]

yeah like

[strange wadi]

DOOM guy has some personality

[earnest shale]

his name is

[leaden orchid]

The infamous "you have huge guts" lmfao

[earnest shale]

Flynn Taggart

awesome reveal

[strange wadi]

DOOM the sixth, when?

[charred gust]

top 5 game endings with no spoilers

[shrewd sparrow]

There's a book series. They aren't that great but they contextualize the world and doomguy

[strange wadi]

arr dee arr too

[leaden orchid]

[earnest shale]

.mmmmm

[shrewd sparrow]

They are kinda in an alt universe I think but that doesn't matter in the DOOM franchise

[earnest shale]

(I'm tasting some food dont mind me)

[strange wadi]

actually game endings is a difficult one

Cuz what counts as a good ending

[shrewd sparrow]

Basically everything in DOOM takes place on separate timelines but loosely connect

[earnest shale]

GOD

I FORGOT THE GOAT

DETROIT BECOME HUMAN

[leaden orchid]

• Halo Reach
• Cry of Fear
• GOW Ragnarok
• Dead Space 2
• Halo 3

[shrewd sparrow]

It's one story but it's not one straight line of narrative but more like multiple timelines that stack to create the story

[strange wadi]

no spoilers for gow please ausser

[leaden orchid]

I answered with no spoilers

[strange wadi]

justttttt in case

[hollow vector]

everyone dies real

(i have never seen more then 10 minutes of god of war)

[strange wadi]

(I have been playing god of war games since i was 5 years old)

[jagged lava]

GOW:R spoiler: Kratos

[strange wadi]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[shrewd sparrow]

In no particular order but
RDR2
AC origins
Bloodborne
Nier Automata
Ghost of Tsushima
And I know you said 5 but I gotta add cyberpunk because you know I'm a shill

[hollow vector]

||kratos says boy||

[charred gust]

alright

gimme that hand

[fossil sequoia]

@charred gust I have now joined you on the journey of Maximum security.

[charred gust]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[earnest shale]

-Spiderman 2018
-Dark souls 3 (bad ending)
-Detroit become human (best ending)

• Uncharted 3
  -Ghost of Tsushima (both endings)

[leaden orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[manic hill]

@earnest shale got 🎁 Present!

[charred gust]

bloodborne's ending being leaving the UK ?

[shrewd sparrow]

Kinda

[strange wadi]

peak ending

[manic hill]

@earnest shale got 🎁 Present!

[charred gust]

i could legit imagine that, theres a sign that just has "the entirety of the UK 100% legit" and your character walks past it holding their weapon up on one arm

[charred gust]

[shrewd sparrow]

There's 3 endings. In themselves they are nothing special I suppose but the context around why they happen the way they do is just fantastically done

[strange wadi]

make it come out in 2007 too

[earnest shale]

I'll repeat it cause no one paid me attention

[leaden orchid]

Ok new list

[earnest shale]

-Spiderman 2018
-Dark souls 3 (bad ending)
-Detroit become human (best ending)

• Uncharted 3
  -Ghost of Tsushima (both endings)

[stark oyster]

Oooh endings

[leaden orchid]

Best video game SOUNDTRACKS. And no, not ONE TRACK, I mean judging an ENTIRE OST.

[shrewd sparrow]

It's what really upsets me - yaknow, when people say the souls games have no stories. Just because you didnt pay attention doesn't mean there was no story

[strange wadi]

mgr

[stark oyster]

DMC

[strange wadi]

uhhhhhh terraria

minecraft

[earnest shale]

easily, uncharted 2

[strange wadi]

cool OSTs

[stark oyster]

Skyrim hits me with some nostalgia

[manic hill]

@stark oyster got 🎁 Present!

[strange wadi]

dark souls has some of the deepest lore I've ever seen (it is the reason why I haven't watched any lore on it yet)

[earnest shale]

Assassins Creed 2's OST goes hard

really hard

[strange wadi]

truth

[stark oyster]

It's good

[strange wadi]

i mean shit ezio's family became the ass in the creed theme

[earnest shale]

[stark oyster]

What does that even mean 💀

[strange wadi]

all the main menu songs are new iterations of ezio's family

[earnest shale]

Ezio's family track has been in every ac ost since ac 2

[stark oyster]

Alr

[earnest shale]

which is fine

[strange wadi]

thank you lauti

[stark oyster]

Ezio's Family is on my Spotify rn actually

[manic hill]

@earnest shale got 🎁 Present!

[leaden orchid]

For me:

• Halo (All of them lol)
• DOOM (modern)
• MGR
• Skyrim
• Ultrakill
• Dark Souls 3

Yes I have 6 cus I couldn't NOT include any of these.

[charred gust]

after giving it a thought, my best endings are the ones that left me looking at the credits roll thinking about wtf just happened

and then still thinking about them years later

1. RDR1
2. GOW (2018)
3. LA Noire
4. Spec Ops The Line
5. Arkham City

[shrewd sparrow]

Undertale
Metal Gear Rising Revengeance
DOOM & DOOM ETERNAL
COD Zombies (not one particularly game but I think it's fair to group the zombies songs as a single OST)
Never played it but Persona 5 has a goated OST
DMC5
HADES

[strange wadi]

never had that

[earnest shale]

yeah probably

[shrewd sparrow]

Honorable mentions: every souls game

[leaden orchid]

Fair with COD Zombies

[earnest shale]

ultrakill slaps

dark souls 3 as well

[stark oyster]

The COD zombies music is always too damn loud

[leaden orchid]

What do you think of the Elden Ring OST, I feel like it's underwhelming compared to what we've had in the past, but there are still some good tracks here and there

[shrewd sparrow]

BEAUTY OF ANNIHILATION

[charred gust]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

read that message as i was thinking about it

[earnest shale]

ooooOOOOooooo

[shrewd sparrow]

I haven't sat down and listened to the whole thing like I have the others which I suppose in itself is a bad sign. I guess it really wasn't that memorable apart from the menu theme and godskin duo. Damn. But maybe I just forgot, that game was massive and a huge sensory overload

[earnest shale]

that kid got his balls cut so we could.listen to that banger ost

[shrewd sparrow]

I should really listen to the whole ost

[manic hill]

@upbeat whale got 🎁 Present!

[stark oyster]

Lucas be stealing presents but never contributing smh

[shrewd sparrow]

What's your favorite track from each souls game atleast that you've played

[honest creek]

[leaden orchid]

Well I've only played DS3 and ER but I have tracks from other games

[earnest shale]

again

😭

[stark oyster]

Go vanish for another 2 years

[honest creek]

Alright, cya when a less complicated event comes out

[earnest shale]

Lord of Cinder's track is just too good

[charred gust]

• Literally any Tekken game that wasn't mid, especially the tag games
• Any GOW game
• Old NFS Games, specifically underground 1 / 2
• Street Racing Syndicate, this one's OST just went so fucking hard
• GTA games but specifically for me san andreas and 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJEXErLqzFs

i mean listen to this goodness

i'd sit in the character select till the timer runs out

[earnest shale]

WE FORGOT THE GOAT

HADES

[shrewd sparrow]

Mine are

DS1: Great Grey Wolf Sif
DS2: Majula's theme
DS3: Dragonslayers Armour
Bloodborne: Ludwig, The Holy Blade
Elden Ring: The main menu 😎

I don't have an answer for demons souls or Sekiro... Yet

[shrewd sparrow]

I didn't bud

Speak for yourself

[charred gust]

lowkey still the best character select theme in any fighting game ive heard in my life

[earnest shale]

ludwig is almost your bf watch out

[leaden orchid]

Demons Souls: Maiden Astrea theme
Dark Souls 1: Either Gwyn or Sif theme
Dark Souls 3: This one is really tough because there's like 6+ that I love, but I would say funnily enough the main menu, it just encapsulates the game very nicely.
Bloodborne: LUDWIG THE HOLY BLADE SLAPS SO HARD IT SHOULDN'T EXIST.
Elden Ring: Probably the main theme.

[earnest shale]

[charred gust]

y'all know what time it is

[earnest shale]

No.

Wait

[shrewd sparrow]

Please tell me you've heard this cover

https://youtu.be/3CmYGBO-6as

[earnest shale]

Sekiro's OST is a banger

[leaden orchid]

Yes

[charred gust]

time for some actual good nfs music from the golden age of nfs

[leaden orchid]

Wtf I saw this like a few days after it was published

[manic hill]

@earnest shale got 🎁 Present!

[charred gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7KncmJj82s

am i the only one who thinks NFS soundtarcks are getting midder every game

[leaden orchid]

Nice, I should listen to a lot of the older racing OSTs, I just never played those games since they're not my taste

[charred gust]

like 2015 was the last good one and it only had like 1 good song lmfao

[shrewd sparrow]

This slaps so hard!

https://youtu.be/Q8KUwhYfotU

[leaden orchid]

Ok so we've had everyone answer best soundtracks

[shrewd sparrow]

It's my favorite theme but I forgot how good it is

Like goddamn

[leaden orchid]

How about top 5 of best INDIVIDUAL TRACKS.

Has to be from a game ofc, but you cannot include more than 1 from a single game. Multiple in a franchise is allowed

[earnest shale]

Abyss Watchers' track solos

[earnest shale]

this is a good one

[leaden orchid]

I don't think I'm able to create a list tbh

But I'm eager to hear your responses

[shrewd sparrow]

Ezios family
Halo theme
Ludwig, the holy blade
Devil trigger
BFG Division

[charred gust]

this one's tough

[earnest shale]

• The King and The Bull (Hades)
• Owl - Father (Sekiro)
• Last Parkour (dl2)
• Bloodborne's Main theme
• Ezio's Family (AC Origins version)

[shrewd sparrow]

Speaking of a origins

My favorite track from that game isn't on the official tracklist

[earnest shale]

[leaden orchid]

Actually:

• The Warthog Run (Halo 3)
• Ezio's Family (AC2)
• Ludwig, The Holy Blade (Bloodborne)
• The Only Thing They Fear Is You (DOOM Eternal)
• Bury The Light (Devil May Cry 5)

[shrewd sparrow]

https://youtu.be/gJqekV885gg

Shout-out to house building theme

As an honorable mention

[earnest shale]

the doom eternal one is awesome

[leaden orchid]

I was conflicted between that and BFG Division

[earnest shale]

I used to listen to it on quarantine while doing homework

[shrewd sparrow]

The only thing they fear is you is my alarm clock

[earnest shale]

I forgor Stealing the Buggy from DL1

[leaden orchid]

I even made a cringe DL1 Hellraid edit with that song

[earnest shale]

lmao

[charred gust]

• Tekken 7's Arctic Snowfall for Round 1
• Devil Trigger from DMC5
• Ezios family (AC Rogue Version)
• Max Payne 1's Theme
• COD : Cold War MP Lobby Theme
• BF4 Main Theme

[shrewd sparrow]

I was torn between the only thing they fear is you, BFG division, meathook, rip and tear, at dooms gate, and rust, dust, and guts

Btw can I just say dooms soundtracks have amazing names

[charred gust]

DMC3's battle theme was also goated

[shrewd sparrow]

I never really noticed

[charred gust]

Oh and The HITMAN Trilogy's main menu theme is also goated

Zombies theme is also goated

Black Ops 2's Adrenaline too

[earnest shale]

I forgor Breath of The City

[charred gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnkabn7JVk

this shit is electric

[shrewd sparrow]

That's my favorite

[charred gust]

the way those synth / techno waves flow through

[leaden orchid]

There's tons of fantastic tracks in COD as a franchise

[charred gust]

also that theme that plays in arkham city when you're on the rooftops

[earnest shale]

DL1's main theme is great too

[shrewd sparrow]

AC ROGUE EZIOS FAMILY THATS SO GOATED U VALID FOR THAT

[charred gust]

and just free roaming around

[shrewd sparrow]

IT HAS THE THEME OF AC3 AND AC4 IN IT

[charred gust]

come here

[shrewd sparrow]

U VALID

[charred gust]

you know whats about to happen

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[shrewd sparrow]

That's my favorite ezio family mix I just forgor

[leaden orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-up-gif-meme-toy-story-whats-good-buzz-lightyear-gif-26344526

[earnest shale]

a longer one lmao

[leaden orchid]

I want to know where this is from

[charred gust]

its a goated remix legit

[leaden orchid]

Because the animation looks really good lol

[earnest shale]

how his eyes move are just too funny to look at

[shrewd sparrow]

I love that it has the themes of AC3 and 4. It sings the song of the colonial brotherhood, this is ezios family but shay was betrayed by them

When I think about the ac rogue theme I convince myself that the story for that game is good

[earnest shale]

I completed ac rogue a few months ago

I liked it

[shrewd sparrow]

My favorite parts of rogue are the haytham segments

Like I always wanted more haytham

[earnest shale]

Credits were so long that after I took a shower the credits were still rolling

🗿

[earnest shale]

have you read the book?

AC Forsaken?

[shrewd sparrow]

No

[earnest shale]

It tells you more about Haytham's childhood

and how edward died

[charred gust]

its the best remix imo, it has the classic hymn but it sings AC3 / 4 like you said through those sounds they added, the flute or whatever represents the ships and the epic battles on them

rogue will forever be my dark horse in the AC franchise

[earnest shale]

aight

imma go to sleep

i'm tired

great talk gentlemen

[charred gust]

good night

take care

[shrewd sparrow]

Origins has a good ezios family mix too, and Odysseys is okay when it's not blasting my fucking eardrums out

Neither as good as rogue

[charred gust]

the leadup in origins' is goated

also that du du du that sarah schachner added

[shrewd sparrow]

Yes

[charred gust]

it plays throughout the game when you're in the inventory or in the main menu, that du du du is goated

like you know its coming and you're waiting for it

[shrewd sparrow]

I love how haunting origins OST is for no reason

The OST is weirdly hopeless

I guess that's kind of the games theme up until the end

[charred gust]

i love that dark theme around it, it fits it so well

[shrewd sparrow]

Bayek loses his son, by the end he loses his wife. But he has a future to look forward too with the brotherhood

I guess I forgot how dark that game was at some point

[charred gust]

thats literally how i saw ubisoft, they're actually bayek

[shrewd sparrow]

Like the arc with shadya? Was her name

[charred gust]

like legit thats them, their shot at redemption

but sadly the community wont let them

or atleast wouldnt let them

[shrewd sparrow]

I think origins is the best game in the series. Not because it's perfect or even does everything good. But everything is done fine

There's no assassin's Creed game that I can confidently say there's nothing I dislike about than origins

Good world, good combat, serviceable parkour, very compelling story

AC3 being my actual favorite ac game is still buggy as fuck even in the remaster and the ezio trilogy I cherish very much but they didn't age well and unity has the best parkour and fine combat but it's janky and the game itself is still kinda fucked

Origins has the benefit of being a done and working video game

[charred gust]

the parkour was so goated its insane, when i recently played unity again it made me appreciate origins' even more because they didn't even have a sprint button in the game and they still managed to keep it flowing really well

unity had those goated animations for when you're traversing around directions, doing a turn while you're falling but origins was nerve relaxingly smooth

climbing the pyramids

[shrewd sparrow]

Plus weirdly origins was the only ac game to get tears out of me

Seeing the way the Creed was formed in that beach

That was so emotional for me as a long time fan

[charred gust]

also the sound design in origins might be my fav out of any game, idk what it is whether they used some insane high budget mic filter or some dr dre level mixing but i swear everytime i put on headphones and listen to that game's audio it makes me so relaxed, hearing bayek's footsteps as he climbs, drops, jumps is just on a league of its own compared to any other game ive ever played

[shrewd sparrow]

It's a little corny with him dropping the skull in the sand but the context and emotional weight of the scene makes it worse, not too mention the fucking acting

Bayek and aya actually have really great chemistry, watching them split apart for the greater good is just so hard

[charred gust]

AC3 lowkey apart from connor being a dumb brute is high up on my list

[shrewd sparrow]

I love ac3

And I love connor

His naivety makes him who he his

[charred gust]

for me it wasnt connor that made it, could've been replaced by anyone else, the theme, the events and the characters made it

[shrewd sparrow]

He's brash

[charred gust]

like for 2012 it blew my mind

[shrewd sparrow]

I love connor

[manic hill]

@upbeat whale got 🎁 Present!

[charred gust]

the way they make you see haytham as this rough individual but he still cared enough about his wife somewhat and he just couldn't get himself to kill his son

[shrewd sparrow]

I love that they chose a native American to tell their story about the American revolution

The way he fights for freedom despite knowing it doesn't apply to him

The colonists screw him over every step of the way

But he understands the weight of his situation

He realizes it's better to fight for what he believes is the greater good than to not fight at all

If he can destroy the templars the rest is unimportant

[charred gust]

he's the ultimate underdog which is why it's such a goated game, the assassins are no longer the side you'd bet on, achilles' brotherhood is done and you feel like you're the only one fighting for that side

[shrewd sparrow]

And the best part of that game for me is Connors ambiguity

[charred gust]

i legit think AC3 - 4 - Rogue and Unity are the best period of AC for me personally

the events that went down in that time period between Shay's upbringing and Arno becoming a master assassin are just insane

im glad they released 3 before rogue tbh

[shrewd sparrow]

I agree

[charred gust]

cuz achilles is just a bitch after you play rogue

[shrewd sparrow]

3 is my favorite ac game, and one of my favorite games of all time

[charred gust]

like he's no longer that savant wise guy that he was in 3, he's a clueless power maniac who strayed far from ezio's legacy

[shrewd sparrow]

I think a lot of people don't see Connor the way I do. I don't think it's pretentious to say I think I understand Connor more than others, not to say ive experienced anything close to his struggles but I can relate to the way he views the world and specifically america

He doesn't personally believe in what people like Washington stand for, but he's willing to sacrifice everything to fight on behalf of America's ideals because at the end of the day they are better than the adversarys

[charred gust]

its why i always say AC is so goated, it shows you that eventually there's no right side, everyone goes corrupt, bayek was good, al mualim came in and abused his legacy for his own benefit and wealth, altair brought back the brotherhood and cured it, ezio followed in his footsteps, achilles fucked it up, then afterwards it seemed to have gotten back to what it should've been, but in the real world during our time it's the templars once again who have the upper hand and are bigger, so much bigger that you only had desmond and his crew / layla who actually represented the good guys

[shrewd sparrow]

Connor is confused, he doesn't know right from wrong. Yet his motivations are simple and his arc and conclusion are ambiguous. I really like that about him

[charred gust]

i think what flies over most people's heads about AC is even tho its all exaggerated, the future can potentially have abstergos especially considering you have the church of scientology that still exists today

like say 500 years from now it becomes a reality through neurotology breakthroughs, you really think there won't be an organization that tries to abuse that to rewrite history or reshape it for its own benefits ?

[shrewd sparrow]

Shay is a good example too. He's defined by the fact that he's a brotherhood defector, that's the narrative. Yet, in context it's just deeper. Everyone who played understands why he did what he did, whether or not you agree. His character is also very ambiguous, you get to draw your own conclusions about his motives. He's not a super deep character, but you don't have to be deep when so much lies on the surface.

[shrewd sparrow]

We already have organizations trying to rewrite history so people that believe that it wouldn't happen on that scale are delusional

[charred gust]

shay is the perfect example why humans will always fight wars

the entire situation could've been avoided if achilles wasn't such a delusional dumbass, and if his fellow puppets weren't puppets

[shrewd sparrow]

I love Achilles is arc too

[charred gust]

like legit none of them had to die at all, but no they had to follow orders blatantly

[shrewd sparrow]

Achilles is actually a really great character

[charred gust]

i legit hate him, if i had to pick one AC antagonist it would be him

[shrewd sparrow]

I love how as a dying man he lives alone, he refuses to train Connor because of how he already failed the Creed. with shay and the rest of the colonial brotherhood

Eventually he does train Connor, and through that action he actually does gain his redemption. He dies as a very noble character

[charred gust]

for starters he shit on ezio's legacy and took the brotherhood back to al mualim's age, moreso he single handedly destroyed it, i mean he sent off an entire generation of assassins just to get killed by shay to delay his arrival to that final site in the snow to find out what shay told him months before

he's just dumb

[shrewd sparrow]

He knows how many lives he took, destroyed, ruined, etc. I'm so glad AC3 came first because he just appears to be a stubborn old man but rogue adds so much subtext

[charred gust]

i personally didn't think it was enough to redeem him, he was already useless so if he had refused to train connor all along he would've been ted from breaking bad level of trash, i liked him in 3 but as soon as i found out who he was before it's just like, wow

altair didn't lose a finger and kill his mentor for this

its just annoying because of the consequences it had, i mean the entire reason why abstergo are who rule the world and are winning the fight ultimately is because of him

[shrewd sparrow]

Yeah but he trained Connor which led to the colonial templars being completely disbanded and america gaining it's freedom

[charred gust]

imagine if the assassins had shay on their side and not on the opposite ?

[shrewd sparrow]

Because Connor unironically solo'd the war

Which btw that's hilarious

[charred gust]

connor is literally a god in ac3

[shrewd sparrow]

Connor won every major battle basically by himself

[charred gust]

he's just built different

[shrewd sparrow]

It's why when people scale ac characters and say ezio beats Connor I roll my eyes

Like this man literally won a war basically singlehandedly

He commanded the troops, he fought in the front lines of every major battle in the revolution

He's literally unfairly scaled

He's ungodly powerful

[charred gust]

he doesnt beat him in terms of strength but if its a 1v1 assassination contest then yeah i could see that

[shrewd sparrow]

He's actually OP

Connor could overpower ezio

[charred gust]

connor is literally a war general, i remember those promo trailers they had for the game

he was running head first into battle just murdering mfs

[charred gust]

i feel like if ezio had to fight for his life he'd use his broader experience with the pieces of eden to pull some BS on him

(im assuming it isnt that type of BS villains always do where they flex their OP skills then let you kill them)

[shrewd sparrow]

Connor survived getting impaled by a sharpened log of fucking timber in the burning ship while chasing Lee and still was able to keep going until he caught up to him later and killed him

[charred gust]

like yeah look at this sword i have that can cut through walls and any matter, i'm just gonna hold it here and strike once at a time near you

so you can dodge it progressively and come kill me

[shrewd sparrow]

If they fought and ezio had any piece of Eden then yeah

[charred gust]

Lee was such an L

[shrewd sparrow]

Cause they are literally supernatural powers

But just a 1v1 of their basic kit and skills

[charred gust]

to see him as a sucker for haytham, literally his mailboy

then try to talk down connor years later

[shrewd sparrow]

Even in a stealth seeking 1v1 Conor still wins because he has more tools

[charred gust]

i hate those types of characters, the type that gets into it as a bitch then tries to pull rank later on

[shrewd sparrow]

Connor could hang ezio by a tree with rope darts

[charred gust]

i legit never saw a point in these types of comparisons because at the end of the day if they were to actually happen they'd always end in a cliffhanger

the writers never wanna upset anyone

[shrewd sparrow]

I don't care for them either but it's funny just too point out how op Connor is

[charred gust]

its like when they scaled akuma and ryu to asura's level in street fighter 4

like bro i'm sorry but neither akuma or ryu have fought a fucking god of gods

[shrewd sparrow]

It's like when people try to pit most characters against doom Slayer like there an argument there

[charred gust]

or beaten a literal planet sized monster

[shrewd sparrow]

When doom Slayer is an actual demigod

He's borderline invincible at this point in the story

He was made into a god

The praetor suit is bullet proof, explosive proof, you name it and it probably won't be damaged by it

Not too mention his arsenal and abilities

[charred gust]

theres only one game that i would put on the same level as the original god of war games in terms of how goated the boss fight animations and transitions were, and that has to be asuras wrath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b32iNMghkw&t=8m44s

8:44, this mf who's 10 times the size of the earth puts his finger on top of it

and asura just punches the shit out of it

[shrewd sparrow]

He's an export in all manner of guns, he's great in hand to hand due to his supernatural strength, he's got a fucking laser sword, and he's very mobile

Sorry master chief

Never stood a chance

[charred gust]

AYO NO WAY

I JUST REALIZED ITS BACKWARDS COMPAT

we legit need a sequel

or atleast another game from the same studio

the ideas they had for that game were just borderline insane

the fact that IGN gave it a 7.5 to me is a testament to how their takes dont matter

one of the best boss designs of any game ever

[shrewd sparrow]

IGN praised nier Automata for being a masterpiece for like 10 minutes and somehow landed on a score of 8.9

[charred gust]

IGN are the L take guys for me tbh

[shrewd sparrow]

They spend a whole review building up a 10/10 just to arbitrarily give it a . Score

[charred gust]

if IGN says its good its probably okay

[shrewd sparrow]

Like 8.9???

[charred gust]

if they say its bad its good

[shrewd sparrow]

tf

I noticed it a lot with every publication

[fossil sequoia]

Well

[shrewd sparrow]

I finished nier automata and went back to watch reviews back when it released

[fossil sequoia]

I just encountered a glitch in Callisto

I vaulted a wall and got stuck halfway in the floor on the other side

[shrewd sparrow]

And they are all positive, but these reviewers talk about a perfect experience, a true masterpiece of a game. To give the game an 8 or 9

[charred gust]

gg w

wp

[shrewd sparrow]

Why are they scared to give out 10's

[fossil sequoia]

That is literally the first bad thing I've encountered so far

[charred gust]

gotta keep the 10's for the studios that pay up

[shrewd sparrow]

fr

[charred gust]

they've been proven so many times to take paid reviews

like they used to make it so blatant when they give games no one liked 8's and 9's

[shrewd sparrow]

Yeah and the creators of Nier would never pay someone to talk good about their game

[charred gust]

now they're kinda more smart about it

[shrewd sparrow]

The director of Nier, Yoko Taro has said some of the most insightful shit I've ever heard about game development

[charred gust]

https://forums.atariage.com/topic/203924-former-ign-employee-admits-review-scores-are-skewed/

i know i'd get fired within my first month if i was working there lmfao

lowkey when you see shit like pokemon s&v selling 10 mil its like whats even the point

[quasi prairie]

I’ve decided to just watch Callisto protocol on YouTube.

Been chill so far.

[charred gust]

my theory has always been with them you have employees who don't wanna lose their jobs like that guy by giving a game a 6

so they have like a minimum they'll give

like they won't go lower than a 7 regardless of how the game could be

then the games they see everyone loves they'll go up to an 8 or a 9

[manic hill]

@quasi prairie got 🎁 Present!

[charred gust]

and if they see every other major reviewer giving a 10 they won't break the chain

[devout berry]

Bloodborne PC 2023 real

[charred gust]

nou

[quasi prairie]

Cyberpunk 2077 update looking nice tho ngl

[devout berry]

I'll circumcise my boyfriend if Ragnarok comes to PC before bloodborne

[charred gust]

[quasi prairie]

Dawg what💀

[charred gust]

bruh

[quasi prairie]

Nah but cyberpunk getting cool updates soon

[charred gust]

ive been going through playlists upon playlists trying to find some good new progressive house songs

no luck

https://tenor.com/view/crying-seal-sad-seal-sad-crying-seal-gif-19684439

[quasi prairie]

I recommend phonk

[charred gust]

its like mfs cant make good new songs anymore

[quasi prairie]

Try expanding your genre

[charred gust]

i have so many times legit

"modern" rap, any type of EDM, even kpop

[shrewd sparrow]

For one he's got this interesting belief that game developers shouldnt have the right to critique or analyze their own game

He refuses to do interviews because of this. He doesn't feel like it's his right to commentate on his own work. He makes the games he wants to make, and he writes the stories he wants to write and gives them to the world but he doesn't feel like he deserves a right to commentate on them with any level of certainty because his critical view isn't better than anyone else's.

He thinks it's pretentious for game developers to take an interview on commentate about their own game. To talk about the work they put into it and how they want it to be perceived. Game devs don't dictate perception of their games yoko taro believes.

Another is the way he views games themselves. He views them as an art form and hes talked in the past about the "invisible wall" of games.

He believes that the intended experience of a game is more important than anything else, regardless of what the experience is. He says that we right now make games in a sort of "space" where games are defined in certain genres and games have to follow certain unwritten rules

But yoko taro disagrees. He thinks that true artistic expression would come easier if we were able to break down the "invisible wall" for games

He says that what if we could have a full priced game that only lasts 10 minutes but is the most beautiful 10 minutes you could ever experience, or a game that is so difficult no human could clear it. A truly impossible video game. He's hopeful for a future where games like this can be made, where there is no invisible wall.

Yoko Taro, is also quite the innovator. Hes talked about how he doesn't want to just make a standard video game, or standard RPG, or what have you but that he's always trying to find ways to divert the players expectations. It's why automata is a jrpg but it's also a side scroller action game, a 3D action game, a 2D shoot em up, a 3D shoot em up, and it's why the game constantly switches perspective, it's why the narrative is told through multiple endings that follow the same narrative, etc.

[charred gust]

i think the part of my brain that processes music just decided to do an impression of that sleeping seal

[quasi prairie]

What the fuck is that @shrewd sparrow

You wrote a whole essay, ima revise, edit and grade that shit.

[shrewd sparrow]

I just wanted to praise yoko taros insight a bit

[charred gust]

10 mins of the best game ever ? so a match of tekken tag 3

https://tenor.com/view/whats-up-gif-meme-toy-story-whats-good-buzz-lightyear-gif-26344526

capcom better release it before i die

[shrewd sparrow]

Imagine the industry if everyone viewed game making like he does

Constant innovation, providing a good experience to the player above everything else, etc.

[charred gust]

i think constant innovation would actually backfire

look at death stranding

it's a game of its own, you can literally make a new genre for it specifically because of how different it is

but you remember how people received it

[shrewd sparrow]

Because everyones been turned into a goblin with modern video games

[charred gust]

like often people won't stick around for something thats unusual to them and doesnt immediately give them that oomph, they'd rather just play something that does

[shrewd sparrow]

It's more profitable to make some mindless cash grab br than a thoughtful artistic expression of ones own mind

[charred gust]

its why some people will die without playing an RTS game

[shrewd sparrow]

Kojima, Miyazaki, and Taro. Where would we be without them

True innovators

It's no coincidence they are Japanese

[charred gust]

EA and Activision would be releasing the same game every year

look at FIFA, 23 years and still going strong

actually more

if you count the world cup games they have atleast 50 games in their track record

[broken lodge]

what

chat

please save me

[charred gust]

nah you're done

[broken lodge]

PLEASE

[charred gust]

your best bet is to send an email to sony

[shrewd sparrow]

Play fifa 2005 and FIFA 22 back to back then play metal gear solid 3 and death stranding back to back

[charred gust]

i always say this shit but as long as theres a market for something they wont bother innovating

why spend more money when you can make just as much if not more without doing that

the game hasnt changed at all since i was addicted to it personally back in 14', add 2 or 3 animations each year that no one will use because they're gonna be locked to players you won't get until late in the game's lifecycle and you'll have to spend 500$ to get

update the kits and teams, add a new soundtrack and change the colors of the UI, bundle it up and sell it to people for 60$ again

they essentially sell you the grindey system of ultimate team and the presentation, nothing more

[shrewd sparrow]

It's crazy how 2 cod games 10 years apart can feel practically identical but playing dark souls and then playing elden ring the difference is night and day

Elden ring is such an innovative video game

It's a culmination of everything they learned, all their other ventures

It revolutionizes open world design and environmental storytelling which they have become known for

[charred gust]

its why i always say single player games are always gonna be the benchmark for video game innovation and just how much the industry can achieve

[shrewd sparrow]

They aren't strictly singleplayer

Besides sekiro

[charred gust]

MP games are always gonna be 2nd best imo, you play them to get that itch you need but that's about it

[charred gust]

yeah i know there's pvp in them but i personally don't see it as something that's more important than the actual single player portion itself and the bosses

what i do appreciate is the co op aspect

getting together with your buddies and beating up a boss

[shrewd sparrow]

And co-op

[charred gust]

or helping a friend

[shrewd sparrow]

It's funny how Ubisoft were pioneers. They innovated basically every genre of games from open world, to fighting, to tactical shooter, to extreme sports, etc. And now they've kinda just plateaud

Like ubi had such a good run for a very long time

Now all their shit feels so stale

[charred gust]

co op is legit the only form of multiplayer i still tolerate, but as far as getting competitive and spending 3k hours on a game to get really good at it and go online to compete its just not there anymore for me its like the games where you do go through that system take it out of you for the future, i just don't care anymore, i'm there for the SP experience, once i get that i'm done

[charred gust]

ubisoft made the same mistake rockstar is making rn

which is forget about their old IPs and focus on what they think is trending

the problem is that trend eventually will get boring, you gotta mix it up

its why people started hating AC

any franchise that releases yearly eventually gets stale and people get bored of it and start criticizing it, if you're smart like activision you'll know how to repackage it to make it look different

[somber valve]

@devout berry feng players build different

[charred gust]

or you're EA with a fanbase that just doesnt care

[steel scaffold]

Uh? BO2 feels exactly like MW2… um yeah no

Rockstar isn’t exactly making a mistake at all. They are still making a fuck ton of money… from a fan standpoint its like you should’ve made gta 6 like 2-3 years ago but obviously they were and still are making bank

The problem they face is creating gta online 2.0. It has to be bigger and better which doesn’t always turn out well

[astral cargo]

Yes and it's amazing game

[stark oyster]

Good to hear

I have some complaints, but think it's a good game

[jagged lava]

still debating on buying it

[normal crown]

dont buy the mid protocol

Im jk it looks genuinely good

im not spoiling myself so I can buy it sometime next year

[stark oyster]

It's brutal

The death animations are clearly where half the budget went

[pseudo swallow]

Priorities

[stark oyster]

*brutalities

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxvyh2lOYByBHexYYXRzbVfkzv3XDbFsUY

This the the first animation where I genuinely exclaimed out loud after seeing it

[pseudo swallow]

Fatalities

[stark oyster]

It's so fuckin brutal

[astral cargo]

Sweet view

[fossil sequoia]

@charred gust did you end up beating it?

[jagged lava]

apparently story is really short

like ~10h or something

[astral cargo]

I git first dead in that game

God damn these animation are amazing i want to check every dead animation

[dire ferry]

which has better death animations callisto or dead space

[stark oyster]

Callisto by far

[dire ferry]

is the protagonist more vocal when he gets ripped apart

[stark oyster]

Yep

[dire ferry]

i remember wishing issac would violently scream more

good

[stark oyster]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxvyh2lOYByBHexYYXRzbVfkzv3XDbFsUY

[dire ferry]

for the immersion... totally...

[stark oyster]

This should tell you

[dire ferry]

holy shit

how long is it

[stark oyster]

The animation?

[astral cargo]

Am idiot i have to turn on auto dogde

[dire ferry]

the campaign

[stark oyster]

That's a thing?

[stark oyster]

8 hours I think

[dire ferry]

is it very replayable or nah

[stark oyster]

Last 2 are filler I heard, and it isn't very replayable

[manic hill]

@stark oyster got 🎁 Present!

[stark oyster]

There's no NG+ features or nothing

[dire ferry]

yeah thats post launch i saw

[stark oyster]

Can you send the road map?

[stark oyster]

Hmm

[dire ferry]

kinda feels like something youd expect at launch tbh but its cool anyways i guess

[stark oyster]

Why they adding a harder mode though

[dire ferry]

how many difficulties are there in the base game?

[manic hill]

@dire ferry got 🎁 Present!

[stark oyster]

3

Minimal security
Normal security
Maximum security

[dire ferry]

maybe hardcore will be something more advanced like permadeath or item/enemy placement changes kinda like madhouse mode from resident evil 7

[stark oyster]

I think on maximum you get 2 hit by basically everything

So hard-core probably does item stuff yea

Maybe less ammo

Because healing isn't as important on maximum

[dire ferry]

are there any unlockables

[stark oyster]

Not to my knowledge

There are upgrades though

[dire ferry]

hardcore will probably have unlockable skins assuming skins arent exclusively paid content

[stark oyster]

I don't think there will be any extra skins and stuff

Only for the Season pass it seems

[dire ferry]

yeah idk i remember dead space had a bunch of alternative armors but i think those effected gameplay so idk if callisto would have those either

[stark oyster]

Maybe in the story dlc?

[fossil sequoia]

I hope for NG+ they allow skip cutscenes

[stark oyster]

I like the cutscenes

[paper thicket]

oh yea does callisto have video cutscenes or in-game

[dire ferry]

ng+ and a new difficulty is a perfect update tbh

[stark oyster]

Both I think

[dire ferry]

i wish some other game that came out this year did that

[stark oyster]

A bit shallow actually

[paper thicket]

dead space is pretty much all in-game cutscenes so the whole game is a seamless run through without any loading screens unless you die or load checkpoint

[dire ferry]

its a linear game so it kinda makes sense

[stark oyster]

There's a fair amount of just "sit here and watch this"

[dire ferry]

both ng+ and hardcore mode seem like really simple things that youd expect from most games at launch so hopefully theres something unique about them

at least hardcore mode should have something unique

[paper thicket]

you have that in dead space too but it looks like it happens within gameplay cuz the transitions are just loss of control and camera starts moving

its really good considering the age of the games

[stark oyster]

Indeed

Dead space is a very old game

It utilized everything it could

[somber marlin]

https://twitter.com/thegameawards/status/1599348720935788546?t=6TS7jILE_byfJUNFb_zgLQ&s=19

The Game Awards (@thegameawards)

Fortnite x The Witcher

Likes

201

Twitter · Dec 4, 2022, 10:23 AM

[stark oyster]

NO

NOOOOOOO

GOD PLEASE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[manic hill]

@stark oyster got 🎁 Present!

[stark oyster]

Please tell me this is fake 😭

[heavy orbit]

doom Slayer and hero academia are also going to be there

• mrbeast

[somber marlin]

This and Doom Slayer both are coming to fortnite

[stark oyster]

I'm so mad

[fleet gulch]

still can't believe Mr Beast is now canon in fortnite

[stark oyster]

My rage cannot be contained

[manic hill]

@fleet gulch got 🎁 Present!

[stark oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-cat-despite-all-my-rage-get-real-gif-20016880

[stark oyster]

Hero academia looks like ass so I don't care

[manic hill]

@stark oyster got 🎁 Present!

[fleet gulch]

Fortnite Volatile skin when?

[stark oyster]

Ask Uncy

[heavy orbit]

when DLC2 releases

(never)

[paper thicket]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DzKoTHBllBQ

[stark oyster]

I'm having a sttroke

[paper thicket]

[astral cargo]

What the ... Cdpr what have you done

[heavy orbit]

Get techland to add a volatile to fortnite

[astral cargo]

And aiden , waltz , kyle crane

[fleet gulch]

Nightrunner in Fortnite when?

[astral cargo]

13/12/2023

GOD DAMN ZOMBIES IN CALIISTO

[fossil sequoia]

In game

And also, @stark oyster

I like the cut scenes too, But when Permadeath is added. Watching them all every time you die is going to be infuriating

[stark oyster]

I don't think they'll add permadeath

[fossil sequoia]

They literally

announced it

Lmao

[stark oyster]

Okay

[fossil sequoia]

The season pass

The contagion mode is where players will have customized difficulty with Permadeath

[stark oyster]

There's no point of that

[fossil sequoia]

Riot mode is a horde mode

And then there's a story dlc

[fossil sequoia]

A new experience, New enemy placements and all for a harder difficulty with permadeath, That's great idk what you mean

TLOU2 Grounded Permadeath [Whole Game]
was the most fun I've ever had

[stark oyster]

That's not a great amount of replay value

[fossil sequoia]

well I'm on my second playthrough rn

I'm about to beat it again

[stark oyster]

Permadeath doesn't just magically make it replayable

[fossil sequoia]

It does for me

It gives me a challenge to strive for

[stark oyster]

For the average person, they beat a game and move on

[fossil sequoia]

Well the people like myself who really enjoy this game

Will stick around and do permadeath

[manic hill]

@stark oyster got 🎁 Present!

[stark oyster]

So less than 50% of the playerbase

[fossil sequoia]

Why does that matter?

[manic hill]

@stark oyster got 🎁 Present!

[stark oyster]

Meaningless update

[fossil sequoia]

Yeah, For you

I'm hyped for it

I love a good challenge

and I love this games combat

[manic hill]

@stark oyster got 🎁 Present!

[stark oyster]

For a large majority permadeath is useless

[fossil sequoia]

Despite what you might think, A lot of people love permadeath modes

TLOU2 Permadeath was very popular for the people who actually loved TLOU2

[stark oyster]

Less than half the player base 💀

[fossil sequoia]

What does it matter

The devs adding permadeath doesn't affect you negatively whatsoever

[stark oyster]

Doesn't benefit me neither does it

"I wonder if they added anything to that game"
"They only added permadeath."
"I'll just play something else "

[fossil sequoia]

But it benefits others You don't like it. Whoopty fucking doo, Cry about it. Just wait for the other DLC's

[stark oyster]

You're the one pinging me over this

[fossil sequoia]

I legitimately stated a valid reason to why they need a skip cutscene option

You're the one who started crying about it

[stark oyster]

You're the one butthurt that I said it's a meaningless update

It won't grasp enough players back to play it

Actual content will

[fossil sequoia]

They don't care about that

[stark oyster]

They do

[fossil sequoia]

You can tell this is more of a passion project than dead space

[stark oyster]

DLCs will bring people back

[fossil sequoia]

EA ruined Dead Space

Striking Distance just want to make a game they're passionate about. And they think permadeath is a good addition, And I agree.

[manic hill]

@stark oyster got 🎁 Present!

[stark oyster]

You can agree all you want, but I don't think it's a good change

NG+ is already a barely good change

This is a linear game, no rewards for beating it. So no reward for going back through

[fossil sequoia]

I mean

[honest crane]

PERMADEATH?

Nah fuck that

[fossil sequoia]

There's always achievements. Bragging rights, And of course. The reward of "Wow holy shit I just did that, I'm amazing"

[manic hill]

@honest crane got 🎁 Present!

[fossil sequoia]

Yes. I'm hyped for it.

[stark oyster]

[fossil sequoia]

TLOU2 Grounded Permadeath was a LOAD of fun

[stark oyster]

TLoU2's story was terrible

The whole morale of it is "revenge is bad wahhhhh" but still let's the worst things happen

[fossil sequoia]

Lemme guess

You're one of those people who's just mad that joel got a hole in one

[stark oyster]

Not necessarily

I'm mad that the morale of it is so backwards

Abby was mad that her dad got killed > kills Joel > Ellie doesn't do shit about it > let's Abby live > gets a terrible outcome

You have to play as Abby through like half the story don't you?

Like what

[honest crane]

It's like the biggest bitch slap I've ever seen a game do to you lol

[fossil sequoia]

It's because Ellie realizes ;-;

She's so set on revenge that she lost everything to try get it.

And she also understands that killing her won't bring him back or anything.

The story was very bold. But I like that.

[devout berry]

@somber valve didnt even get to use bw 😔

[fossil sequoia]

The risk they took was huge, But to me ultimately worth it

[somber valve]

this map

is torment

[devout berry]

yeah even they lowered the chance of getting it but

yeah bad luck

[somber valve]

i looped a wesker for 4 gens because there are just many pallets

[stark oyster]

Basically it means that she just loses everything because top tier writing

[somber valve]

then got left to die

on first hook with adren

[fossil sequoia]

You're too braindead to connect with the story, Clearly. And that's why I say the risks were big. Because people already decided they hated TLOU2 as soon as joels death got leaked

[somber valve]

oh this is tlou2

bad writing

[stark oyster]

Agreed

Terrible writing

[somber valve]

i still stand by that point until im dead

[stark oyster]

My main grievance