🎯︱other-games

[devout berry]

yeah same issue with me

[fleet gulch]

Yeah, sounds like oil leaked and they are not lubricated all the time anymore and it takes some time for them to get oiled up properly

[devout berry]

i checked all around the fans none of the wires hitting them

wack

[devout berry]

when you say oil leaked i panic thinking its gonna leak on my mobo or gpu and destroy them

[fleet gulch]

it's not conductive at all, so no need to worry, if you want you can try cleaning it with a paper tower once in a while

also, you saw how small the ball bearing is, there ain't that much oil inside one of those

[leaden orchid]

Are there any potential long term issues that can arise

[molten bloom]

Just a bee tear

[fleet gulch]

your fans will lose efficiency and will break much faster

[leaden orchid]

Whelp

Been going for 2 years

[devout berry]

well that is not a problem, fans are cheap i could just buy couple more after several years if they break

but wouldn't you say it is too early for mine to make this sound

[fleet gulch]

well, yeah, that's pretty much the worst that can happen

aside from the sound

how long have you had the fan for?

[devout berry]

as long as there will be no fire inside my case

[devout berry]

3

months

[fleet gulch]

could be a defect from factory

[leaden orchid]

That's about when it started happening for me

[fleet gulch]

[devout berry]

wild

[molten bloom]

My battery hasn’t exploded yet so you should be okay

[worn tapir]

That’s normal for cheap fans

[leaden orchid]

It's 3 fans in a unit, and 1 fan does that

[molten bloom]

[leaden orchid]

Not all 3

[fleet gulch]

Aussie...question, have you been cleaning fans regularly...since that last time?

[leaden orchid]

Yes

Every 1 or 2 months

[fleet gulch]

[molten bloom]

Last time?

[fleet gulch]

yeah, low quality bearings causing leaks

[molten bloom]

What happened last time?

[leaden orchid]

Last time was September

[leaden orchid]

I'm a PC noob and didn't clean my PC for like over a year, I eventually cleaned it early 2022

It was

CAKED

In dust

Well, the fans were

Nothing else was

[fleet gulch]

dude if you sneezed on the fans, your whole room would've had 1 cm of dust everywhere

[molten bloom]

I wonder if that’s what caused my laptop battery to do what it’s doing

[fleet gulch]

PEOPLE, CLEAN YOUR FANS AND KEEP THEM CLEAN OF DUST they can save you a lot of money

[molten bloom]

Daaaamm

[fleet gulch]

My friend learned a hard lesson when he refused to clean his psu fan and it died on him

[molten bloom]

My laptop rn

[novel locust]

[leaden orchid]

jesus christ

[molten bloom]

Yeah

It’s been like this for almost a year now

[leaden orchid]

How did that happen

[fleet gulch]

THAT'S A FUCKING HEALTH HAZZARD

[molten bloom]

It gets replaced tomorrow finally so

Idk

[fleet gulch]

A FIRE FUCKING HAZZARD THAT THING IS NOT SAFE

[molten bloom]

It still works

[fleet gulch]

Yeah, a c4 also works, doesn't mean it's fine to stay near it

[molten bloom]

Hasn’t killed me or burst

I’m taking pictures of it tomorrow

[leaden orchid]

My brother's laptop had to get its battery removed because the adapter he was using for his charger couldn't handle the power

So it fucked up the battery

Now he can only use the laptop when plugged in directly

With a new cable

[fleet gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6HDS-qF6Cw this can happen at any second

DO NOT FUCK WITH LITHIUM BATTERIES

[molten bloom]

I have a charger that melted and technically I’m on my third official charger

The first charger broke

Original cord

It went snap

[fleet gulch]

TAKE BETTER CARE OF YOUR SHIT

[supple flax]

terraria

[charred gust]

ah, the good old fucked up charger cord

i used to have this ancient ass 1 gb ram pentium 4 laptop waaaay back in the day, the charger would literally just stop working so i'd have to do the good ol' cut the cord burn it and then wire it up together and duct tape it, that laptop did well by me

[molten bloom]

This happened to the second one

First time used and MELT

[charred gust]

lmao noice

[pseudo swallow]

@hollow vector

https://tenor.com/view/call-of-duty-maps-mw2-co-d-modern-warfare2-gif-18524726

Terminal

[dire ferry]

finally

cqb my beloved

[grand frigate]

RIP Kevin Conroy

[leaden orchid]

[devout berry]

@somber valve they have REUNITED

[normal crown]

fantastic

[fleet gulch]

speaking of ragnarok, time to play some more

[broken galleon]

I'm amazed that the laptop continued to operate up untill the SECOND explosion @0:25 !

I had a gaming laptop back in 2010 that had dual nvidia 285m gpus in it, and one day I heard the fans start buzzing suddenly, it was the HUGE ass battery swelling pressing against the fans! I was lucky I didnt have my headphones on for that moment otherwise I'd have been fucked!

[devout berry]

Man imma have to wait several years for PC version

ain't gonna buy a ps just for one game

[broken galleon]

Same

[devout berry]

if bloodborne was 60fps on ps5 I would

but otherwise not worth it

[broken galleon]

I bought a Xbox one s just for red dead redemption 2 when I remembered how long it took gta 5 to come to pc

I sold it as soon as pc version was announced lol

Such a garbage console. That whole generation was sad for consoles

[devout berry]

especially sony now got their own steam page so I think it won't take that long for Ragnarok to release on pc

[broken galleon]

It was tbe generation they all gave up and became shitty gaming pc's without any unique hardware

Sigh

Ps3 was the last great console that was something special and different from a pc

[pseudo swallow]

Ps3

Nostalgia

[broken galleon]

I never even owned a ps3 myself, but I'm a hardware junky

I've always leaned more on the pc side of things for that reason, but if I had to choose a console in that era it def would have been a ps3

I can't even remember the last time a console could even compete with the pc exclusive market, I guess thats why they became shittier pc's ultimately lol

Basically it wasn't untill 3d graphics became the norm that pc became the superior platform from a hardware capability point of view

Pc couldn't handle 2d gameplay with the smoothness and speed consoles could becuase they had specialized hardware just for that purpose

Thats the entire reason Id software became a household name! John Carmack figured out a way around the smooth scrolling issue and he started making a pc port of Mario 3 in hopes of getting a deal with nintendo

It still didn't look as smooth or play as smoothly as the consoles though, but it worked! It made 2d gaming actually viable on the pc.

[pseudo swallow]

Ps3 had backward compability

40-80gb

And lots of games

Borderlands 1

Mw2/3

[broken galleon]

https://youtu.be/al6G_mRCIhk

Dude recreated all the artwork from Mario 3 via VHS recordings of gameplay lol

[hollow vector]

only the old top loader model did

[pseudo swallow]

Yeah there where editions

[devout berry]

ps3 had free online

that was the best

[pseudo swallow]

Ill never forget

Ps3 4ever

[remote needle]

Naming off my childhood games

[pseudo swallow]

Grand turismo 5

[fallen shard]

Hard decision...
Assassin's creed 2 on 100%? Battlefield 4? Deep rock galactic?

[earnest shale]

uhh

Assassins Creed 2 imo

It's fun

[pseudo swallow]

Fc6

[honest crane]

Sniper Elite 🤝

[quick relic]

Payday 2

[broken galleon]

anyone here good at reading cursive?

came across an old drunk guy in red dead 2 who wrecked his cart, and i zoomed in on one of the papers that was on the ground

[vernal crater]

@vital vector @paper thicket @leaden orchid @granite nacelle

advanced ape mode

[granite nacelle]

crex mode

[vernal crater]

https://tenor.com/view/drums-drum-roll-please-funny-gif-12977760

[vital vector]

So many people speaking at once.

[vernal crater]

yea

lmfao

i couldnt hear shit so i started talking aswell

[vital vector]

I'm installing Infinite again.

[vernal crater]

Sadly no further story content is coming

[paper thicket]

PRIMATE...... WIN..... UH.... OH OHH......

[vernal crater]

AH!

[honest crane]

Ever?

[broken galleon]

Any of yew nerds got star citizen

[queen torrent]

that's basically all I could translate
Gentlemen
One of my trading salesman Ms. ( someone's name ) finds me in (something) open from past issues calling attention to ( something )

and that's probably not accurate at all

[broken galleon]

I picked out about the same

Especially the "calling atfention" part which I found odd considering what this object is in game

A random piece of debris more or less

Game companies love to hide jokes in stuff like this

[queen torrent]

yeah

[broken galleon]

In cyberpunk there are entries on computers that are "corrupted" with just a buncha random letters and symbols

But if you look closely you'll notice that there are letters every so often and if you take those letters and ignore everything else it becomes a message

Heres what it says. I spent a good 15 min on deciphering this...lol"Corrupted file ethier due
To environmental exposure scavenging or data crash"

[broken galleon]

Thanks for trying! Cursive writing like this is HELL for my severely dyslexic brain

[queen torrent]

I mainly write in cursive so i could kind of read cursive, but then there's old cursive and i have no idea how people read that

[queen torrent]

np

[green jetty]

Muscle memory, muscle memory... I will learn it eventually.

[exotic plover]

The time it took me to get the timing for quick swapping weapons

[broken galleon]

so turns out an rtx 3080 can run super smash bros ultimate at a resolution of 11520x6480 while STILL maintaining 60fps....o.O

[honest crane]

What kind of fucking resolution is that

[stark oyster]

Nasa super computer type shit

[broken galleon]

6x that of 4k lol

take 6 monitors at 4k and put em all together

if this is possible on an EMULATOR, then this should show just how underpowered nintendos console is compared to a gaming pc. it was never any question if it was, but the degree to which is fascinating

they used to hold the top spot in their hardware generation, sniff

[charred gust]

the switch is literally running the same hardware as a tablet from 2015

1st party devs are just masters at optimization

[honest crane]

Optimizing the Nintendo Switch to a fucking NASA computer

[charred gust]

the fact they even got cdpr to port the witcher 3 on it as well as the doom games is a meme

[honest crane]

24K 💀

[charred gust]

devs who have to optimize games for the switch :

https://tenor.com/view/forced-to-play-gif-20710116

[honest crane]

How much do they spend optimizing compared to console and PC devs?

[broken galleon]

if its made for switch id say its pretty easy

if its a port though....at least you would know exactly how much you CAN do

and if your really lazy, you do what they did for the switch port of the witcher 3

[charred gust]

they prob pay the 3rd party guys a good chunk, hell i remember even the original wii had some cod games released on there, they looked all pixelated and shit but still

[broken galleon]

CD Projekt has confirmed the resolutions The Witcher 3 will run at on Nintendo Switch. In a tweet, the developer said its expansive open-world game runs at 540p in handheld mode, and 720p, with dynamic resolution enabled, when docked on Switch. 540p handheld, 720p, with dynamic resolution enabled, on screen

[broken galleon]

the wii was quite literally two gamecubes stuck together lol

well not literally shockingly accurate

[charred gust]

at the same time tho its a good deal if you release your game on the switch since its the most profitable market if you can get the game on there and win the fanbase

mofos barely have any sales and nintendo is still afloat and kicking

[honest crane]

True but fucking hell, porting some shit to the switch looks like shit when you play it

I'm looking at you, Dying Light

[broken galleon]

from a hardware perspective the wii was comparable to the gamecube in much the same way the ps4 was compared to the ps4 pro

[charred gust]

nintendo literally sell you 2 generation old hardware but they got that loyal fanbase

[broken galleon]

it has the hardware of high end gaming tablet lol

[broken galleon]

ever realized that their strategy for hardware design coincides with there status in the market?

basically meaning they just lack the resources to compete with microsoft and sony on an economic level

[honest crane]

True but despite that. Some games still end up to look like shit

[broken galleon]

hell the original xbox was sold at a HUGE loss

they were losing like 500 bux on each console lol

[charred gust]

its what they do, the DS consoles for example barely were any different, like i remember they were advertising the shit out of the 2DS XL when the 3DS was the main thing, same thing with the Wii U to the Switch, they're really not that different when it comes to power they're just very good at releasing underpowered consoles and push devs to release games on there

[broken galleon]

indeed. mario odyssey is a great example of what you can do on the hardware when you make it for it

also breath of the wild

[charred gust]

its honestly a good thing, like nintendo fans are adorable

[honest crane]

3DS ❤️

[broken galleon]

the n64 was so much better than the playstation in almost every way except the lack of storage space, and the gamecube was in some ways better than the ps2, but the xbox beat them both with brute force

[charred gust]

its good to have them around, i'd rather have 3 competitors than 2, especially when its nintendo and how well they're doing

[broken galleon]

after that....:(

however cant argue that nintendo first party titles are consistent enough to bet on their quality

[charred gust]

nintendo know their market and they're proud of it

[broken galleon]

im predicting that in under 10 years from now, nintendo is going to release a stand alone vr console and they are gonna sell them at a huge loss becuase they will be entering the market with a VASTLY superior product. they are going to wait untill the tech has gotten to a small enough form factor and certain other parts become cheap enough to mass produce, and then they will dominate that market

[charred gust]

like the fact that the steam deck is out and they still havent went bankrupt yet is a testament to how loyal the fanbase is

[broken galleon]

nintendo making vr games is what we need to show alot of these companies why their current methods are quite lacking

[honest crane]

Bro imagine Nintendo going VR...

[broken galleon]

nintendo did the same thing back during the video game market crash in the 80s. while american companies were busy running their platforms into the ground with shovelware, nintendo was proving that quality is everything

[honest crane]

What a turn to the tables that would be

[broken galleon]

they have been messing with vr with the switch their labo kits came out

they have the vr kit for the switch that turns it into basically a google cardboard device

they would most likely make a deal with Valve

[charred gust]

what i want to see happen is see valve try to take a more aggressive approach of their own and use their influence on the PC market, especially with the steam deck, release a deck V2 and start forcing devs to optimize every game for it for atleast 8 years the way sony and microsoft do with consoles

[honest crane]

Oh really? But isn't it just a big screen in your face for now?

[broken galleon]

they have a sort of...friendly relationship. they are the only pc centric company that nintendo even has a relationship with, and nintendo could easily take the "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" approach to buisness. valve doesnt compete with console market after all.

[broken galleon]

nah, the way it works makes that the one thing it sucks at lol

becuase your taking a 720p screen and cutting it in half

for each eye

[charred gust]

the thing is the deck is literally a switch killer

[broken galleon]

but what you can experience is 3d depth and the sensation of being INSIDE the game

[charred gust]

but obviously people are loyal to nintendo

like you can literally run yuzu on a deck

[honest crane]

Oh cool

[broken galleon]

if it were competing with it sure, but the pc market is its own little bubble

if im not mistaken though i believe nintendo actually helped them with its design in some minor ways

[honest crane]

Speaking of the markets, what market would be the best as of now?

[broken galleon]

not officially

[broken galleon]

in what way? from what perspective?

[charred gust]

the thing that valve still dont realize which surprises me because it's pretty idiotic on their part is how you can't try to sell a PC console with their current model

they tried it with those alienware PCs a couple of years ago, failed

and now the deck is already outdated too

[broken galleon]

steam link

[broken galleon]

outdated compared to what?

[honest crane]

Just... Idfk... From what each market does best? I'm not really a marketing guy

[charred gust]

like its just annoying how they don't realize they have that leverage over devs

[charred gust]

i mean new games releasing from now and upwards will struggle to run on it

(based on a plague tale and gotham knights)

[broken galleon]

well yeah thats to be expected

not every game can scale that much, as they need a bare minimum of certain things in order to remain functional

[charred gust]

like you'll still play the light games on it and stuff thats optimized obviously but still, considering how recent it is it's a bit disappointing

[broken galleon]

like take for instance something like the distance at which grass is rendered in a game like call of duty

that grass could give you cover when your prone

[charred gust]

its a thing they could fix themselves too like i said, use that leverage you have over devs, steam is still the biggest platform for PC games, have devs comply

[broken galleon]

so from a gameplay perspective, there is a minimum distance at which the grass HAS to be rendered

it wouldnt be as simple as just changing some graphic settings in a config file, to maintain that youd have to redo how the grass is rendered from the ground up most likely

thats just one specific example though. there are games like grand theft auto 5 that scale INSANELY well

[charred gust]

it doesnt matter tho, if microsoft can force devs to optimize their games for a series s running at 1080p for the next 8 years valve can do the same for the deck with 800p

[broken galleon]

in fact it technically scales back to a high end ps3 title and scales all the way up to a ps5 level

i dont know many games that do that lol

[broken galleon]

your comparing mobile hardware to a console though, and your forgetting one of the biggest issues mobile hardware has

power consumption

and heat generation

you have to worry about how much power you can draw from the battery and at what rate

[charred gust]

like if they were able to port valhalla on an fx 8300 and a 7850 (PS4 / Xb1 hardware) the deck can survive a lot more than it does today, the problem is just valve doesn't care and doesn't force devs to care

[broken galleon]

heat generation is simple enough to explain but imagine if your computer case was covered in meat and had no fans.....

id be downclocking the FUCK outta itself lol

[charred gust]

yeah but thats the thing as a dev that's your job, any dev can use that excuse for the switch for example

or literally any laptop

[broken galleon]

well you cant work maricles, if they tried to do that they would end up with an atari lynx in the modern age

[charred gust]

nintendo can do it, valve just don't wanna invest time into it

they're probably also afraid of the backlash they'd get

[broken galleon]

well look at the witcher 3 port on the switch

[charred gust]

cuz people would be pissed off that PC became a console like market where you don't have to upgrade for the same amount as a console cycle

[broken galleon]

it had SO much done to it just to get it to work, and it STILL has to lower its resolution to as low as 540p just to hit 30fps and still has dips

[charred gust]

yeah i know but the switch is severely underpowered, like there's a certain threshold that as long as you stay within you can optimize a game to still run well

RDR2 shouldn't run as well as it does on a PS4 / Xbox One if you try to use PC equivalent standard logic

[charred gust]

same with AC Valhalla, Ragnarok, Forbidden West....or any of the recent games

also the PC ports devs release are most of the times just really lazy in comparison to the mainline console ones

[broken galleon]

it took at least a year to make the changes needed to get that port on the switch, the steam deck has been out since febuary

give it time, they probobly will do something like that

especially as they make more headway with thier OS

[charred gust]

like for example the low end pc config for RDR2 looks a thousand times worse than the game does on the xb1 / ps4, you have no grass at all, shit looks blurry as hell since you gotta drop down the res scaling to 70%, that's just not valid scaling when you have hardware that's 30 - 40% better than that of those consoles and still runs it that bad

[charred gust]

i honestly hope they do

[broken galleon]

took them roughly 15 months to port witcher 3 to switch

according to google

[charred gust]

cuz like if there's any time for them to stop abandoning their releases its now

[broken galleon]

gabe newell originall worked at microsoft on windows

so the fact that hes spearheading steamOS as a possible gaming focused alternative for windows is what im most excited about

[charred gust]

https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-Machine-ASM100-6980BLK-Desktop-Console/dp/B015XK1O6K

remember this meme ?

lmfao

[honest crane]

I mean there's even an Easter Egg of him on an old Windows OS

[queen galleon]

@molten bloom @novel locust @worn isle

[molten bloom]

Yay

[broken galleon]

there is so much bloat added to operating systems right now, i wonder just how much you can squeeze out of a modern gaming pc with an OS designed for gaming from the ground up

[molten bloom]

[worn isle]

[broken galleon]

hell there was an update to windows 11 a few days ago that screwed everyone over on game performance

https://www.pcmag.com/news/pc-game-performance-can-drop-with-windows-11-22h2-microsoft-warns

[charred gust]

the work they've done so far for linux gaming is commendable (even tho they literally just stole the work that was already done by the wine team and made it theirs as proton but whatever, as long as it improves the project and makes it actually official im all for it)

[charred gust]

[broken galleon]

did you know that elden ring on the steamdeck is the ONLY version of the game that doesnt have stutterring issues in numerous game areas?

[charred gust]

good

[honest crane]

Elden Ring? Well that's surprising

[broken galleon]

even on my pc with an rtx 3080, that starting area with that forest, if im at 4k the forest makes me stutter every second or so becuase its dropping down to like 55 fps

i have to goto 1620p in a few areas like that so i just run at a lower resolution despite the majority of the game running smooth as silk at 4k

so its literally something in the drivers and the OS that causes the issue

it happens on consoles too in the same way but they tweak settings to make it less noticible, at least on the ps5 version

i remember reading an explanation for why it happens but cant remember

the details

[charred gust]

microsoft try not to fuck up an already working OS every 2 updates :

[broken galleon]

i refuse to upgrade to 11

[charred gust]

^

you're either one of the hype riders that install every OS the second it comes out to post a screenshot of it or you wait till they force you to update to it

by using some BS excuse like "this feature can't work on the old one"

[broken galleon]

ah its caused by background streaming of assetts

[charred gust]

(like they did with windows 7 and DX12, even tho it was literally proven to still be able to work and brought back later on by multiple devs)

[broken galleon]

only reason i upgrade my OS is when they stop supporting the older version with directx

like directx10 wouldnt work on vista

becuase they said so

and i think they did a similar thing with dx12

at least im safe untill dx13

[molten bloom]

My battery isn’t getting fixed

[honest crane]

Why not

[charred gust]

literally what they do

[charred gust]

L bozo

[honest crane]

Pretty pointless to me tbh

[molten bloom]

I got lied to

[broken galleon]

i was playin smash bros and thought i had a grapical glitch lol

[honest crane]

Plus, the "performance boost" is only like a few FPS

[broken galleon]

a FURRY yoshi!? this is an affront to GOD itself.....burn it...burn it with fire

[honest crane]

why does he look like he's realistic af graphics

[broken galleon]

its his "furry" alternative costume apparently

[honest crane]

It's like his nose looks like a ball of grass

[charred gust]

microsoft releasing a broken new OS and going silent over forcing people to update it for like 5 years because they know it's not in a mass usage state and then when they finally fix-ish it coming up with this BS new feature to force you to install it

and then you have those microsoft shills defending them on why you need to get it and how its not possible on the previous OS

[broken galleon]

hell they said windows 10 was the LAST version of windows tehy would make, and would just update it forever and that was the justification for that goddamn microsoft account bullshit

[charred gust]

he looks like a tennis ball with eyes

[queen galleon]

@molten bloom @novel locust @worn isle

[molten bloom]

[honest crane]

Windows 11 looks and feels like it's the forgotten cousin of Windows 10

[worn isle]

[ionic pecan]

21 damage

[charred gust]

they got that L bozo mac style app drawer at the bottom

[worn isle]

68

[molten bloom]

62

[charred gust]

imagine trying to copy macOS

[honest crane]

Bro they did the funny Mac and chromebook shit

[broken galleon]

nothing i despise more than iphone OS

holy fucking shit, that whole one button thing turned to absolute SHIT real quick

trying to do things like switch between multiple apps and multitask is a fucking nightmare as a samsung note user

[charred gust]

also i hate how they keep trying to hide and average joe-ify every setting and panel, like their whole "Settings" they introduced in w10 is made for people who never used a PC in their life, like many of the panels from the classic OS are still there but you gotta actually try to find them because they keep replacing them with the more "user friendly" ones

also the amount of bloat they put

[broken galleon]

YES

changing the names of all the places were all the things you need to access are in EVERY VERSION

control panel gets moved into a deeper subfolder with EVERY version of windows i swear to GOD

[charred gust]

first thing i always do with that garbage is disable cortana, disable the search bar, install startisback, like bro stop putting more trash on my PC

[charred gust]

they try to make things more user friendly but as a result take away functionality and make it more of a hassle to do something you already knew how to do before, its so dumb

[broken galleon]

program manager got renamed several times

[charred gust]

also they keep taking away your permissions from YOUR OWN PC

[broken galleon]

why wasnt PROGRAM MANAGER GOOD ENOUGH

damn does it feel GOOD to hate on things though

[charred gust]

oh and the thing i hate the fucking most is how they make you HAVE to use their piece of shit windows defender

[broken galleon]

YUP

[charred gust]

like why do i have to use 3rd party tools, edit the fucking registry to disable the shittiest antivirus ever

its dumb how it literally flags everything

[broken galleon]

that shit really fucked vr performance up when vr first came out around 2015-16

when your doing vr several things have to take way higher priority than regular gaming due to the latency demands

[charred gust]

like they literally force that noob PC user level of access on everyone to "protect" them because they know 80% of people are gonna get a trojan, it's like if every racing game forced you to play automatic with all assists on because they dont want you to crash

they should literally have a dropdown in the setup, is this your first time using a PC or not, if you choose no turn off all the trash

[wind gorge]

Jimmy jimmy yay jimmy yay jimmy aaa

Dank swallallalaaa

Pls don't ask for the song I could care less about drake lol

He gay

[charred gust]

fr tho apart from that song and a couple more jason derulo has some bangers

like he has some certified hood classics straight up

[wind gorge]

OH WAIT ITS JASON DERULO LOL

But still I dislike drake

[charred gust]

drake for me is legit one of those artists i just know are there

i cant recall a single song i legit kept playing till i got bored of he made

like he's the type of mofo someone will play one of his songs for me in the car and i'll be like hey thats drake

[wind gorge]

Gods plan was a fake

He definitely robbed those mfs after

[charred gust]

100%

[wind gorge]

"ok cut gimme the money back"

[charred gust]

on a serious note tho

apparently takeoff got shot

[wind gorge]

Oh wait this is othergames

I'm blind

Sori

Veri sori

[worn isle]

[charred gust]

i legit dont know who he is but apparently he was part of migos

[wind gorge]

2 Migos now

[normal crown]

someone play TF2 ? 😊

[normal crown]

He’s been dead man

Migos isn’t a thing anymore either and offset and quavo have beef

[harsh tree]

Wouldn’t be the same without takeoff anyways

[normal crown]

Ima have to step in fr

[frail wind]

oof didnt know about that

[terse forge]

Anyone here recommend Killing Floor 2?

Is it good game?

[somber valve]

yes I like it

would recommend but for me it got boring

[normal crown]

It’s a pretty solid wave based shooter. Can be repetitive at times but it’s still really fun

And on pc you can play custom maps

[terse forge]

I’m getting it for console since it’s on sale for like $9

How’s the progression in it?

Pretty standard?

[normal crown]

Definitely worth it then. You do level up pretty fast and there’s classes you can choose

Also 6 person coop is nice

[terse forge]

Aight good I just don’t wanna have to grind so much to get cool stuff

Or at least tedious grinding

[normal crown]

Getting cosmetics is kind of grindy on console since it doesn’t have something like steam market

[terse forge]

Can you fully customize your guy or is it just a few things

[normal crown]

Yeah you can fully customize but the body and legs are usually together

[shrewd sparrow]

I played it quite a bit in the beta and when it launched. Very fun especially with friends but certainly repetitive

One of the things is hated was the slow mo

It's cool the first few times then I hate it

But the weapons specifically were always a blast

To try out the different weapons

[copper stone]

fps chess best game

[fleet gulch]

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1590751227440033806?s=46&t=xmD1ExbsF_vqJ5RJVGe7HA

Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley)

Monday the nominees for #TheGameAwards will be revealed at Noon ET/9a PT/5p GMT and fan voting will commence.

Here's a promo video I edited to celebrate some of the amazing moments at past shows.

We can't wait to honor the incredible work done across the industry!

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[dire ferry]

i hope dl2 is on best ost

[stark oyster]

It has to be

[fleet gulch]

About that....

[stark oyster]

Don't tell me...

[fleet gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es2cMuepHZY

I think nobody stands a chance against elden ring in terms of OST this year

[dire ferry]

tbh dl2 ost better

[stark oyster]

Elden Rings ost wasn't that good

[dire ferry]

id be happy if dl2 just gets nominated though

[stark oyster]

The main menu earraped me so I just put my own music over it

[dire ferry]

elden ring ost goes hard

[fleet gulch]

bitch you never fucking listened to the ost then

[dire ferry]

elden ring is gonna get nominated for everything

[fleet gulch]

you listened to your own music, no wonder it wasn't good

[stark oyster]

it's in the background of my music

[dire ferry]

itll be like tlou2 all over again but it actually deserves most

[stark oyster]

I think there was like one fight where it was good? It was Loretta the knight I think.

[fleet gulch]

Loretta doesn't even have her own theme

[dire ferry]

i havent even played 10% of elden ring and i know that 💀

[fleet gulch]

God of War Ragnarok has some nice songs, but they kinda fall flat compared to elden ring

[stark oyster]

I don't know man, I'm not focusing on its shit soundtrack

[dire ferry]

i wish i could play ragnarok

[stark oyster]

Looks okay

[dire ferry]

i havent even played gow 2018 but i really want to

[fleet gulch]

also, God of War Ragnarok has the worst designed boss I've see ages

most of the bosses in Ragnarok are so blad

[stark oyster]

Elden Ring has worse 💀

[fleet gulch]

Trust me, Elden Ring has some bad bosses too, but fucking hell that fight sucked so much

[stark oyster]

There was like one boss at the beginning that was just a normal soldier but had a huge health bar

[fleet gulch]

if you want I can dm you what the fight was like if you don't care much about a boss spoiler

Soldier of God, Rick. Yeah, he was there to make you feel accomplished by defeating such a powerful enemy when he never ever tried

[stark oyster]

I 2 shot him

Then Margot showed me the pain

[fleet gulch]

This is what he can do with a fraction of his power

[stark oyster]

HOLY HELL

THE TRUE ELDEN LORD

[fleet gulch]

do not ever underestimate Rick again, for he has given you mercy

[stark oyster]

I'll never mistake his mercy ever again

[fleet gulch]

We won because he let us win

[stark oyster]

He wanted us to enjoy the game

[fleet gulch]

[normal crown]

what the hell is that

[fleet gulch]

Soldier of God, Rick showing 1% of his power

[leaden orchid]

I liked a lot of the slower, more somber tracks, or ambient stuff. But overall, I wasn't as impressed by the OST compared to other Fromsoft titles

I don't think there's a single track that I LOVE from start to finish, perhaps only segments

Funnily enough, my favourite is just the main theme Radagon / Elden Beast OST

[stark oyster]

I prefer faster songs personally, more emotional or motivating ones.

The slower ones definitely build ambience and tone though

[leaden orchid]

The subtle eeeeeeeeee when you're underground in Nokron / Siofra is fantastic and eerie lol

[stark oyster]

I haven't reached Nokron I don't think

I'm at Lyndell the capital currently

[leaden orchid]

Oh

I think you can get to Nokron after defeating Radahn, a hole opens up in Limgrave

[stark oyster]

Oh that place

I wanted to fight him but something about "the stars aligning" stopped me

[leaden orchid]

What?

[stark oyster]

Dunno

[leaden orchid]

He is the one holding back the stars

And he's in Caelid

[stark oyster]

The festival right?

[leaden orchid]

After you defeat them, one of the stars fall down and break through the earth, revealing Nokron underneath I think

[leaden orchid]

Yeah

[stark oyster]

Lemme check if it's still acting up

My brother said he just fought him and never saw this issue

[leaden orchid]

What issue though

Cus you're able to fight him or not

There's a requirement you need before the festival can actually start

[stark oyster]

The festival host said to come back later or something

And I think it fixed itself

[leaden orchid]

Yeah you need to fulfill a requirement first

[stark oyster]

[leaden orchid]

oh

lol

[stark oyster]

I think I just needed to fast travel away and back

Ima go fold him now

[leaden orchid]

If you're at Leyndell and taking your time

You're gonna first try him prob

[stark oyster]

I did

I helped my brother kill him so it was basically practice

[fleet gulch]

The bosses in GoW Ragnarok are a fucking chore and really not fun to play against

[stark oyster]

How bad 1-10

[fleet gulch]

So far, the ones I've encountered are a 3/10 on the fun and enjoyment scale

I had more fun with the godskin duo

[stark oyster]

They look awful

@leaden orchid isn't Nokron where you get Mimic Tear?

[leaden orchid]

I believe so

[leaden orchid]

Thor looks hella fun at least

Not sure about Odin

And there's the Valk fight too

The Garm fight looks good

[fleet gulch]

Oh Thor was actually amazing, the only boss fight I enjoyed

[leaden orchid]

Not sure about anything else

[fleet gulch]

Don't spoil bosses s

[stark oyster]

It seems very familiar

[stark oyster]

Iron man dies!

[leaden orchid]

I mean, fighting Odin is as inevitable as Zeus from the previous trilogy no?

[honest crane]

Wtf happened lol

[leaden orchid]

Is that your gameplay

[vital vector]

[vital vector]

One of those Brute carrier thingies landed right on me.

[honest crane]

Lmao

[fallen shard]

I almost complete assassin's creed 2 on 100% but...

Now I need to get 100 feathers...

[stark oyster]

Oh god

Not that quest

[fallen shard]

To be more precise, I need to collect about 60 feathers.

[normal crown]

hi

[pseudo swallow]

Hello

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-angry-mad-god-of-war-gif-11833287

[leaden orchid]

Didn't the GOW devs make all those gifs

Of GOW characters recreating memes

[pseudo swallow]

Lol

[devout berry]

they did most of em

[vernal crater]

Welcome to infinite

[open bay]

is diz the new halo campaign

or what game is diz

[vital vector]

It's Halo Infinite.

[normal crown]

Laughs in 200 flying rats on gta 4

[fallen shard]

I know that quest too.

But I think it's more difficult and boring than 100 feathers in ac2.

[normal crown]

Its just takes time and the cops are pain in the ass

any elden ring player on m&kb

[honest crane]

I play on PC but with controller lol

M&kb is a pain in the ass

[fleet gulch]

controller is way better on souls games

[pseudo swallow]

@vernal crater hows bo2?

Still lives up?

[normal crown]

yes

[pseudo swallow]

Wait… YOU ARE NOT CREX

what did you do to him

https://tenor.com/view/batman-where-is-she-nikkal-nikkalkundhal-nick-gif-18076474

[normal crown]

1st

[pseudo swallow]

He but whatever

[normal crown]

crex is a dude

2nd

he's in my basement

[pseudo swallow]

Thx for the info

[normal crown]

3rd. Yes, bo2 is still very much worth it

[pseudo swallow]

i know

WE GOT HIM BOYS INTERCEPT

https://tenor.com/view/f-bi-raid-swat-gif-11500735

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-six-siege-siege-rainbow-six-breach-clear-gif-25287356

https://tenor.com/view/gun-nerf-gun-full-combat-gear-gif-17402832

https://tenor.com/view/fast-roping-blackhawk-uh60-insertion-gif-13892239

Damn i remember this on reddit

Everyone threw these gifs was epic

Made a whole story in commentsection lmao

[fallen shard]

What a dog doin?

[novel locust]

what says in the picture?

[broken galleon]

Yall interested in seeing some smash bros ultimate in 15360x8640 resolution?

Thats 4k times 4 lol

[devout berry]

8k?

wack

[hollow vector]

There's no point in having images that high res without turning them back into 4k or something

As some form of uber nuts anti aliasing

[broken galleon]

Exactly what I'm using it for lol

[hollow vector]

I'm guessing you're using nvidia ansel

Or just gigapixel ai for some bizarre reason

[broken galleon]

https://youtu.be/Fy2g4BgXxhI I disabled all anti aliasing and ran it at 4k times 4 recorded at 4k

[broken galleon]

Nope, just a switch emulator and an rtx 3080

[hollow vector]

Ok well uploading it to YouTube has effectively taken away any quality that you gained from running it at that res

[broken galleon]

Well the actual point of the video isn't the visual quality, more the fact that it's silky smooth at that resolution, but mostly it's me getting pissed off while refusing to give up trying to beat one stupid matchup on adventure mode

[hollow vector]

Plus did you actually record it in anything above 1080p at like 6k bitrate

[broken galleon]

Recorded it at 4k, it was ungodly huge file size for a video under 10 min

Doubt I'll be doing that very often, it's also a pain in the ass to edit even with DaVinci pro

Nearly 20 goddamn gigs lmao

Here's a still image

[hollow vector]

We that's 4k footage in a nutshell lol

Looks alright, textures are just lacking

[broken galleon]

Its like...cgi rendered levels of smooth

Yup lol

Dem edges tho

Its like putting gold flakes into fancy alcohol or food

[hollow vector]

Well models are infinitely scalable because they're stored with math

Which is why they look nice

Textures however are not math

[broken galleon]

You do it mostly becuase you can. I can actually go up to 6x and still hit 60 for the most part

Has slowdown though

Can't have smash with slowdown

[hollow vector]

Not that hard to hit nuts render res with switch games on pc hardware

[broken galleon]

Crazy that emulation has come this far, but then again its hardware isn't exactly unique

[hollow vector]

I just want ps3 emulation to be in a very good state

[broken galleon]

Emulating an n64 or a Playstation 1 2 or 3 is alot more impressive

[hollow vector]

The older it gets the easier it is to emulate on hardware

[broken galleon]

I havnt tried it myself but I thought it was now good enough to enhance games visually on pc via emu?

[hollow vector]

Ps3 needs nuts cpu power

It's alot better

But still not at a point where it's very easy to pick up and play that one ps3 exclusive game you loved

[broken galleon]

Back when 3d accelerators first came out, one of the fun things that was common to do on high end cards was running games at stupid high resolution and framerates even in the late 90s

[hollow vector]

Running games at higher reses then your monitor for aa is just really annoying tbh

Dsr input lag and fps drop is just unbearable

[broken galleon]

People were already hitting HD resolution in games in 2000 lol just at 4x3 ratio lol

[hollow vector]

Not to mention other desktop things get fucked ip5

[broken galleon]

As long as it's never higher than 16ms it doesn't matter. Sure a rare minority can technically detect under 16ms, but it doesnt matter in practical gaming.

[hollow vector]

Anything under 25 for me is realistically fine

Depends on the game tho

[broken galleon]

I actually wonder if they have done experiments on people's physical size and their abilities to detect input latency

[hollow vector]

Like rn im replaying Detroit become human and it's at a locked v synced 60fps

It's like 55ms or smthn

[broken galleon]

Technically a bigger person should have more of a delay due to the length the nerve signals have to travel

[hollow vector]

I don't mind it but it's a type of game where I don't care that it's not 3ms

[broken galleon]

Whoa WHAT

[hollow vector]

What vsync does to a mf

[broken galleon]

Thats like playing on stadia!

[hollow vector]

It's rock solid 60fps tho

Looks great too

[broken galleon]

Man I never go without vsync and I'm never above 16ms

[hollow vector]

In mw2 I get like 10 with reflex plus boost

[broken galleon]

I'm not even using reflex!

[hollow vector]

At about 150fps

Max settings

[broken galleon]

I cant...if I enable it this white box appears in the middle of the screen and refuses to go away despite changing the options to not display that thing when its active

Oh well I'm at 60hz display. Going above 60hz on a flatscreen display is just unessessary, the tradeoff isn't worth it when you could put that towards better visuals. Only exception would be a racing game becuase the physics engine already runs at way higher than 60hz regardless so you'd actually see more details technically, but I can't imagine playing a racing game without vr...its too much of a game changer and it's the perfect use of vr

[hollow vector]

The type of racing games that have physics engines with extremely high polling rates are the games where youll feel those physics in the wheel not what you see

Nfs rivals was locked to 30fps on pc because physics and other things was tied to fps

[broken galleon]

True. Project cars 2 was a huge difference even with my shitty force feedback wheel

Compared to even dirt rally 2.0. I still love dirt 2.0 more than project cars 2, but I suspect the physics polling rate for it isn't as high as project cars

[hollow vector]

My main sim racer, assetto corsa competizione has a physics polling rate of 400hz

[broken galleon]

It has something in the way it feels that just seems more....present.

[hollow vector]

Project cars physics are a little wack imo

[broken galleon]

Using go karts in vr with that game was amazing lol

[hollow vector]

Acc is best hands down I think

Acc is the game Im fastest in with the same cars and same tracks

[broken galleon]

I wish beam ng would get vr

[hollow vector]

That is something I hope for one day

[fleet gulch]

you guys hyped for NFS Unbound?

[broken galleon]

They recently made a bunch of huge updates on their engine

[broken galleon]

That reminded me of its existence and now I'm sad again

[fleet gulch]

I honestly like how it looks

[broken galleon]

Once I saw its stupid ass visuals I died inside a little

[hollow vector]

I'm looking forward to it

[fleet gulch]

I actually really love the visuals

[hollow vector]

See I think they look great

They've grown on me aloy

[broken galleon]

I hanvt heard anything about the gameplay

[fleet gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/need-for-speed-need-for-speed-unbound-nfs-nfs-unbound-gif-26902955

[hollow vector]

There's a but of info on the YouTube channel through what they call drops

[hollow vector]

Honestly looks really quite cool

[fleet gulch]

I love it

It adds a lot of character to it, makes it unique

[broken galleon]

The game looks like a bored teenager from 1989 took an extra dose of Ritalin and started attacking the screen with goddamn stickers and magic markers

[hollow vector]

Hopefully it sells well

Because if it doesn't

[fleet gulch]

[hollow vector]

[broken galleon]

But if it's open world hot pursuit I'm sure I'll find a mod to disable it

But then again beam ng spoiled me

Its hard to take crashes seriously now when that game exists

[hollow vector]

I still wouldn't call beamng a game

Despite how much has been added over the years

[fleet gulch]

Yeah, it's a full on simulator

[hollow vector]

And I'm a long long time beamng owner

I've had it since the days you loaded into a level from a wooden signpost

[fleet gulch]

There's too much realism in it for me to really enjoy the game

[broken galleon]

And that's a huge part of the experience, your failure is accurately represented visually when you fuck up, but when games use a buncha prefab destruction models it just sucks

[charred gust]

i dont mind the effects since u can turn them off, what im worried about is the city design

[fleet gulch]

Gameplay > Realism any god damn day

[charred gust]

since its made by criterion

[broken galleon]

Your unfortunate correct.

[charred gust]

the biggest L devs in terms of map design

[hollow vector]

Beamng is purely a physics simulator at the moment

[broken galleon]

I wish I could play it more but without any direction it just....doesn't compel me to do much in it but fuck around and marvel at it

[hollow vector]

Defintley, I'd hate in a racing game that I hit a curb slightly wrong I now have to turn right to go straight

[fleet gulch]

[broken galleon]

But it does so many things so much better than every single other vehicle based game lol

[hollow vector]

Because it's only trying to be one thing

[fleet gulch]

I have never heard a better analogy before, please turn that into a :command:

[hollow vector]

And it does it very well

[broken galleon]

The steering thing getting fucked up so easily is definitely annoying more than fun

[hollow vector]

But it's realistic

And is intended for the game

[broken galleon]

Im not a car guy or even a sim racer guy, I just appreciate technology

[novel locust]

@worn isle @molten bloom @queen galleon

[queen galleon]

[hollow vector]

But when I'm racing my gt3 car, I don't want to have to worry about losing some aero advantage because I hit the curb to aggressively and a bit of the splitter is damaged

[charred gust]

its something that should be adjustable, if you literally wanna play like that go ahead but if a game only plays like that then

[molten bloom]

I’m so laggy

[broken galleon]

My dream racing game would be carmageddon done with the beam engine and made exclusively for vr and force feedback steering wheel setups,lol

[hollow vector]

In racing sims I think damage should be apart of it, not to the extent of beamng, but for pure realism more then it is now

Iracing is getting close

[charred gust]

project cars was annoying like that the first time i played it at launch but i revisited it since and it's aight

[broken galleon]

I dunno how anyone plays gran tourismo with its wonky as fuck collision

It looks great untill a car hits anything at all

[charred gust]

gt is goated wdym

[fleet gulch]

There's a very fine line in having a good realistic physics while still keeping the game fun, and I've not seen a game on it yet

[broken galleon]

Then all semblance of realism and immersion goes out the window lol

[charred gust]

like gts is still my fav simracer if you can ignore the grind

[hollow vector]

Iracing damage models on some non licensed cars is getting very good and realistic

[charred gust]

the main thing thats garbage about GT is how they force you to play career mode and literally grind that shit

[fleet gulch]

Yo Terik, I plan on starting some realistic hard surface modelling soon, think you can give me some pointers?

[charred gust]

like i get you're supposed to represent how a driver's life would be but after doing it for 6 games straight i don't wanna do it all over anymore

[hollow vector]

I can't wait for the days when we have the computing power where when I crash my race car into the wall, to see bits of carbon fly off, oil and fuel on the track, bits of metal flying. Millions of polys

[fleet gulch]

my gpu just started shivering by processing that comment

[hollow vector]

Watch some Josh gambrell, the very best info you can find on it will be from him

[charred gust]

is it that half dead 1660

[fleet gulch]

no, a new 1660

[charred gust]

congrats, when did you get it

[fleet gulch]

but it acts more like a 1650

Tomorrow it's getting changed

[charred gust]

i remember you said you were gonna send the old one back and they did you a favor by giving you an underclocked new one ?

i mean, as long as you know its not gonna die on you any second i'd say its a W

[fleet gulch]

not underclocked, a defect one, it's a 1660 super with the benchmark scores of a 1650

It goes into thermal throttle by keeping UE5 open for 30 minutes

[broken galleon]

I'm waiting for fluid sim to be possible casually in games

[hollow vector]

I want this in games

[fleet gulch]

Tomorrow, is the day I welcome this beauty in my pc

[hollow vector]

The limiting factor eventually will sadly be the manufactures crying and saying no damage on my car in games

[broken galleon]

I want to see pools where the water actually is a volume of material that can be displaced literally

[fleet gulch]

there is a game in works about that, i have followed it's progress for a while now

[broken galleon]

Rain that can actually pool up on the ground and flood in real-time

[broken galleon]

The one that looks like breath of the wild?

[fleet gulch]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1203180/Breakwaters/ It ain't the greatest, but it's the closest thing we have to it

Steam

Breakwaters

--(Special note) Multiplayer features are currently turned off while tech is being updated and the game is Single Player only currently. After ongoing evaluation of the current multiplayer platform, the decision was made to shift to a more robust tech which will take some time. Breakwaters is currently listed as single player on Steam because ...

Price

$19.99

Recommendations

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[broken galleon]

Hell I'd be happy with an open world game to acknowledge the goddamn tide existing

I've never seen any game simulate rising and lowering tides cuased by the moon

Perfect way to hide cool secrets in a game like skyrim too

[hollow vector]

I feel like that goes out of the scope of most games

[fleet gulch]

Yeah

[broken galleon]

Imagine what you could get away with by having those two moons in the sky

[fleet gulch]

You're asking for too much

[broken galleon]

It would be easy lol

[fleet gulch]

Please explain how

[hollow vector]

Just move the ocean plane up and down with daytime I guess

[broken galleon]

You could do it with a script as a mod for almost any game. You just assign a maximum height and a minimum height for the water table and sync it with day and night cycle

[shrewd sparrow]

Ooh talking about game design with no knowledge of game design

[hollow vector]

But I feel like that could be a detractor from other things in the game that a static ocean level would be a benefit to

I mean all an ocean is in games is a big ole plane with displacement and textures and shaders applied to it

In most games*

[fleet gulch]

pretty much

[broken galleon]

Being a fantasy title, elder scrolls world could get away with so much fun stuff due to the moons existing as they are in the game world. You could even justify things like huge bulges in the ocean

[broken galleon]

Exactly, it's been neglected for far too long

[hollow vector]

Has it tho

[fleet gulch]

Why change something that works perfectly already?

[hollow vector]

I think the gta 5 ocean is perfect

2013 game

Literally a plane with visible geo displacement

[broken galleon]

How is not being remotely close to reality perfect? Lol

[hollow vector]

Nice looking shaders on iy

[fleet gulch]

Because it doesn't have to be real, it has to work and play good

[hollow vector]

Why do we want games to be a perfect recreation of reality

[broken galleon]

Thats like looking at copy pasta forests and saying "that's good enough"

[hollow vector]

The whole point of games is to escape realityb

[fleet gulch]

[broken galleon]

Thats why I used elder scrolls as an example

You can use basic scientific principals as an excuse to justify crazy impossible things as well as deny them

[fleet gulch]

Sea of Thieves water is literally just a flat plane being affected by displacements and shaders

[fleet gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/magical-magic-gif-13543499

[broken galleon]

The moon does crazy shit to the ocean you can't actually see unless it's from space

[hollow vector]

There are infinite ways to add to games, some being benefits to visuals and gameplay, but it gets to the point where you have to ask what is this adding, how much value is being provided from this feature and does it need to exist and would anyone care if it didn't

[broken galleon]

And scientifically speaking the sizes of the moons in elder scrolls and their orbit are impossible

[fleet gulch]

And scientifically speaking, elder scrolls is not real

[broken galleon]

Still cool as fuck, thats why you could justify stuff like say a giant void in the ocean that exposes the sea floor and leading to a secret dungeon only happening during specific lunar allignments

[fleet gulch]

Or you know, you can just use magic, or you know, they can just say physics work differently there, you don't need realism

[hollow vector]

This sounds like that one thing in the no man's sky beta testing where like time was real to the different plabets you travelled to and people thought it was a bug that it was like the same time when you got to a different planet or something when that was actually it working as intended

[fleet gulch]

The laws of nature are at my will when I make a game, they can be whatever I want them to be

If it means my physics are nothing like real life to make a fun game, then so be it

[hollow vector]

That's why in beamng we had the node grabber

[broken galleon]

Optimal immersion isn't about being true to reality, just that there is an action and a reaction. It would just be silly if you did that for no reason, it would just feel stupid lol.

[hollow vector]

And we can fling cars into walls at 600mph

[fleet gulch]

Attention to detail is nice and all, but 90% of the people won't ever notice the stuff you're talking about, nor care about them. They'll just see them, be like "eh, that's cool" and never see or care it about it ever again

[hollow vector]

Like those mw2 details videos

You go, huh, that's pretty neat

But when you're running around shooting peopel

You don't notice

[broken galleon]

A perfect example of what I'm getting at would be noita

[fleet gulch]

heck, I didn't even know there are leaves falling out of bushed when you hit them with a car in GTA 5 till like a month ago

[broken galleon]

I want to see stuff like that in a 3d world. At least SOME of those sorts of Interactivity. That's a better way to describe it rather than accuracy

[broken galleon]

The finer the art, the more likely the best details go unnoticed or unappreciated by the majority, but it's the things they don't notice that often make it so magnificent.

[hollow vector]

That just sounds like a drain on dev time

Why focus on the things that majority won't notice rather then the the major things everyone notices

[broken galleon]

Oh it is, but it's a matter of why your doing it in the first place

If you want to truly innovate and push the state of the art forward, then your gonna have to be motivated by something more than a paycheck.

[broken galleon]

Becuase even if they don't notice them consciously, they still do subconsciously.

They might not be able to explain why the experience feels different, but if you sat down the average person and removed or added various small details you might be surprised what you find if you know how to ask them the right questions. Consciousness gets wierder the further you examine it, and as game visuals got more realistic they of course became more and more subtle. Alot of people can't even determine if raytracing is enabled or disabled, some will even prefer the one that lacks raytracing simply becuase it looks more familiar to what they are used to.

Some people actually DESPISE motion blur despite per object motion blur at high quality makes identifying movement vectors ALOT easier and more natural to determine.

So basing those decisions simply on if the majority notice then or not is a big mistake and a wasted opportunity imo

Did red dead 2 need dynamically retractable testicles on the male horses based on tempature of the enviroment they are in? Nope...but it sure as hell made an impact!

Most games actually avoid rendering genitals at ALL on animals despite the fact at this level of visual fidelity their absence becomes more halarious the more realistic they look

[fleet gulch]

Aside from the memes of it being mentioned, I haven't seen it at all in my 400 hours of playing the game

Never really cared enough to look

[broken galleon]

And that's exactly my point

If it was removed I'd definitely be pissed about it, even though I'm not always on the search for horse testicles lol, and I'm not the only one

It adds to the whole package of making the world more believable by having a reaction to a stimuli

If you only play games from a competitive point of view, these sorts of things are probobly details you intentionally tune out becuase your hyper focused on the "game" part of the game, and thats fine, but for me personally, I enjoy gaming for the experience itself, and the more interactivity there is, even in the form of going to a warmer pr colder climate to just see if the balls get lower or higher, definitely adds to my overall experience.

[charred gust]

nou

those kinds of games are rare to see these days

where you see something and it blows your mind

[broken galleon]

Back when quake 3 was new, I actually got into the competivie scene for a bit. I didn't play in tournaments but I could keep up with actual pros and not be completely destroyed. They were doing shit like forcing the game to use the same player model for every player becuase some models were harder to see than others yet all sharing the same hitbox, lowering their graphics to the ugliest it can appear for a statistical advantage in terms of latency, cranking up the gamma so there is no chance of missing a crucial detial in darkness....to me that goes against the entire experience of why I game.

We all game for different reasons, I guess is the ultimate point

[broken galleon]

Too true

[charred gust]

csgo pros still play with 4:3 stretched

enemies just become fatter so they're easier to hit, you do lose the widescreen view but that's just so situational the advantage you get with 4:3 outweighs it

also that skin in warzone that people were abusing in dark areas lmao

[broken galleon]

If it gave them an advantage, i wonder if pro chess players would choose to play with pieces made from their own feces lmao

[charred gust]

its almost like devs these days put those things in the game just to give an edge to the casuals

cuz like theres no way you have games that go through playtesting for months before the season comes out and no one notices

[broken galleon]

I watched a video about smash melee bugs that are an issue in competitive play yesterday

I had NO idea how deep that iceberg went

Some combos only being possible if your controller is plugged into a specific port and the opponents is in a specific port, with specific characters and on specific stages

[charred gust]

the fgc pro scene for games where stick players are common is literally a competition of who has the better stick

mofos be swapping out the sanwas every 3 seconds, maintaining that shit like they're arthur morgan in red dead

[broken galleon]

https://youtu.be/rA8kpvTBh8Q this shit right here is mind blowing

We're you old enough to play starfox as a kid when it first came out?

[molten bloom]

STARFOX

I LOVE THAT GAME

[broken galleon]

Well this will blow your mind

Did you know the highest framerate the original starfox reaches is 20fps?

And that's only during the space missions

Without enemies on screen

[molten bloom]

Dude I know nothing of that shit but the game was banging

[broken galleon]

My memory of it as a kid didn't include anything about how "slow or unresponsive" it felt

But when I went back to play it on emulator as an adult I spent hours trying to figure out why it was running so shitth

It didn't feel like what I remembered at all

[molten bloom]

I think I was 14

[broken galleon]

Then i tried it on an actual snes

It was the same...hell the emulator ran better

[molten bloom]

Did you know

The game is on Nintendo DS

[broken galleon]

Ibwas about 9 years old

I also had a pc that could run doom and even quake 1 at 30fps though, so I had a basis for comparison with 3d gaming

Hell descent was way more detailed than anything starfox had and ran at a much smoother rate

It still never crossed my detailed obsessed kid brain though

I did however notice how fucking awful the snes port of doom was

[charred gust]

its funny because no one knew the notion of frame rate back then

so you just didnt care

[broken galleon]

I actually did becuaze I was lucky enough to have a pc tbat could run the games of the time

And I had to figure out what to do to get them running right

Shit was rough back in the days of dos

[charred gust]

its like if you went to the arcades back then they all ran like shit but you just thought that was normal

[broken galleon]

You fucked something up you didn't see a graphical bug....it usually just crashed without any warning in the most terrifying way

Playing heretic as a kid of 9 years old, in the dark...alone...headphones.....

[charred gust]

damn dos ?

[broken galleon]

Then all of sudden without any warning yiur hit with the ultimate jump scare

[charred gust]

mofos had to type commands to play games

[broken galleon]

https://youtu.be/sOAb19GQoCo

Only difference is when this happened the last second kof audio playing would loop

Untill you turned the pc off

That shit was so fucking scary as a kid lmao

[charred gust]

its always funny to see that aesthetic they were going for with the character models back then

[broken galleon]

The way the huge text overlays ontop of the graphics....it was just....startling

[broken galleon]

Yup. I hae my own boot disk for gaming back then lol. Still restarted into Ms dos mode for gaming well past windows 95 cuz it ran better

[charred gust]

i had this pepsi cd bag

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0pImY1-JuNAfKqYtvU9bND95nuI7_2BcV-w&usqp=CAU

this bad boy, had literally everything in here

games, windows xp installation discs, songs, that shit was like my bank

[molten bloom]

Damn

Old school

[charred gust]

lowkey owning stuff like that was fun, you never worried about downloading or anything, you just pull them up plug them in and you're good to go

like these new laptops / PCs don't even have disc readers in them

[broken galleon]

Lol I still have a big binder full of burned disks

I still have huge stacks of em with pirated Games music and shit

No disk drive on my pc though....case doesn't even have a bay for it

[charred gust]

burning disks is a lost art

[molten bloom]

I hate this

They make you buy a separate item for that now

[charred gust]

i once had an argument with someone over it, their take was even if you pay for a sub like netflix / disney+ you don't have the right to use some 3rd party tools to download the episode and burn it to a disk

[molten bloom]

That is their argument

So I guess old computer games and shit just don’t matter

[charred gust]

i always thought the entire argument for being against burning disks was dumb considering the definition of piracy is to distribute content illegally for others who havent purchased it, if i literally buy my shit i'm allowed to choose how i consume it

it's so dumb because of how hypocritical the same people get too, like not a single soul who uses an emulator like yuzu or rpcs3 actually bought those games, bought a jailbroken console to dump them, THEN used their pcs to emulate them

mofos don't realize that they're exposing themselves for being pirates while trying to put up that fake wall of righteousness lmfao

its like people who tell you emulators are legal, the argument was valid back when you could plug a disc inside your pc and dump them like that, not anymore tho, i just hope people were honest with themselves about it all and actually got to a healthy reasonable conclusion

[broken galleon]

indeed. back when the original crysis came out, that was right when digital distibution was still more annoying than conveniant, and it was literally easier and faster to pirate a game than it was to buy it legit on pc, and for YEARS i didnt buy ANY games, not even thinking twice about it....then fast forward to the release of crysis 2 where they were forced to go multiplatform due to insane levels of piracy, it basically killed single player games that were made exclusive for the pc.

just comparing crysis 2 to 1 is heart breaking. once that happened, i never pirated a pc game again. the only reason im using the switch emulator and some roms is because a friend of mine uploaded it to his google thingy. ill never be able to justify buying a switch personally, especially since the controllers are garanteed to break, so in this specific instance i was able to morally justify it for myself personally

but its very true, everyone that cares about gaming needs to be aware that their actions do have consequences

back in 2006 i was justifying spending nearly 3 grand on a gaming pc then pirating every fucking game and thinking "everyone else is doing it and everything is still fine, so fuck it"

never again though

sometimes gore in red dead 2 is pretty impressive

this dude still has the bottom front teeth!

and his tongue is dangling .....that seems very anatomically correct.....i wonder if someone had to study some horrible photo libraries in a medical journal or something to do this

i bet if you tried to post that on facebook it would flag it IMMEDIATLY as offensive

[charred gust]

some gus fring scene shit

[charred gust]

yeah like me personally i genuinely don't care about people's actions, like i've never been one to shit talk someone for piracy but with the recent explosion in the popularity of emulators it's so annoying to see these self righteous hypocrites try to pretend and push the narrative that what they're doing is legal, it's like you're either with or against it, if you're committing it yourself and blaming others for it you're just an idiot lmao

[broken galleon]

if everyone thought about their own accountability than the whole "everyone else is doing it" would literally be negated

it would actaully make the world a better place

[charred gust]

true

i just always thought the entire situation was dumb, especially the lawmakers and people like nintendo especially

[broken galleon]

its something thats not really brought up enough but knowing WHY your making a decision on a personal level is very important. i think alot of people arent even aware of the true reasons they do most things, they just do whats most conveniant for them and dont realize they are justifying terrible things for purely selfish reasons

[charred gust]

like you got these clowns saying they're all for conserving games and at the same time trying to shut down emulators, like do you actually expect people in 60 years to pay 3k for an ancient console and a disc ?

[fleet gulch]

I honestly think Emulators are amazing tools used by wrong people

[charred gust]

its like those people who try to sell old arcade games for 10k

[charred gust]

EXACTLY

[queen galleon]

@worn isle @molten bloom @novel locust

[novel locust]

@worn isle @molten bloom @queen galleon

[worn isle]

[fleet gulch]

Emulation is the only way to preserve old games and sadly, that does include piracy for some of them. I wish they would've gotten an official port of some kind to pc or being made into the free domain instead

[charred gust]

everyone's like oh no piracy is bad but then they download a rom and use an emulator like they're not committing it themselves ? then when you confront them about it and explain it their brains shut down, like bro we get it no one's gonna go buy a game from ebay from 2001 but we need to all universally agree it's the only way as opposed to these game companies allowing you to download digital versions of their games for the future, as well as offer these emulators themselves

[charred gust]

it literally has to be piracy for anything that came out after the ps2, and even then theres games you just can't find anymore, i dont get why people try to sugar cone this fact and run away from it

[broken galleon]

You'd be shocked to see the number of times people awnser the question "what is it that you like about this specifically and why" with " uh, i dont know i just like it". I literally don't understand how that's possible other than literally not being aware of something very fundamental about your identity. To me that sounds like a nightmare

[charred gust]

most of them will straight up just lie to you

[fleet gulch]

I'd love to get into emulation but the fact that I would need to pirate them is kinda keeping from doing it

[charred gust]

like theres mofos that are so deep into the lie they'll tell you they were the ones who dumped those games

(which like i always say, is still illegal)

[broken galleon]

I avoid it cuz I don't know of any trustworthy sources, too risky these days unless you know where to go

If one of my friends has already done that part though and it's something thats never gonna be ported to pc, that's the only time I mess with em.

[charred gust]

i think what companies should do is allow you to download digital versions of your games if you buy them, and after a while (say 15 years) release an emulator themselves

[broken galleon]

I'm always aware of what I'm doing isn't legal and why it's wrong though

[charred gust]

like for example you log into the nintendo site online, you go to your purchases tab and you can just download any game you bought from there, that way they ensure the console is still gonna sell BUT future generations can always just replay those games and it'll all be legal

[broken galleon]

If I ever had the ability to purchase it legally I'd just do that. Hell it's worth it just for peace of mind for several reasons

Yeah, it's not like Nintendo is competing with the pc market

I'm hoping Sony realizes the potential making their psvr 2 setup work with pc would be like selling a console to the pc playerbase

[fleet gulch]

Re-Volt actually did this, they've actually made the game free, and they recently re-released the game on steam, though at a price

[broken galleon]

The hardware already serves the same purpose as a console, just one that requires a pc

A whole market just waiting to be tapped basically and would open the door for more legit Sony ports.

[charred gust]

i remember someone from the community had to step up and make the first one work with PC

its fucked up when companies do this

[broken galleon]

It would be in there interest and there's no reason why it shouldn't work with pc

[charred gust]

its the same with some racing wheels, the ones that'll only work for consoles and not PC, or the ones that don't work between generations, i don't get why they dont just make a standard like xinput and have it work across everything, they treat them like controllers but like bruh i dont wanna buy 2 wheels one for GTS and the other for forza

the world is so advanced yet theres so much dumb shit like this that's literally primal

[broken galleon]

I can't stop fixating on thr cloth physics on red dead 2...why the fuck did the cap the fps for the cloth physics at 30fps!? It makes all cloth physics look like they are under a strobelight or stop motion when the games running at 60 fps

[stark oyster]

Most games lock physics at 30fps since most things can run at least 30fps

[broken galleon]

so i was doing testing of input latency on smash bros ultimate on pc, and discovered regardless of settings, doesnt matter how good your performance is, you cant get anything lower than 16.66ms input latency, which is literally equal to 60fps mathematically. shit gets complicated from there but disabling vsync didnt even affect it becuase the game is hard coded to never go above 60

[broken galleon]

the only developers that even target 30fps at all are console developers lol

on pc, 30fps is usually becuase of two scenarios. 1.something is broken, and 2,i hate being poor/broke

[quasi prairie]

Name a better game than Genshin impact.

[supple flax]

any other game

literally every single other game in existence.

[quasi prairie]

Thank you.

The answer I was expecting.

[supple flax]

fuckin, a pre-alpha version of cyberpunk 2077 is most likely better

[normal crown]

hi

[molten bloom]

Was it bad

[normal crown]

Yes

I had to emulatte the old GOW games

[normal crown]

Gotham knights

[normal crown]

hi I'm god of war

[fallen shard]

I really don't what happened that day but that looks... I don't know what even say.

[keen crown]

@charred gust Control 2

the initial budget for development is 50 million euros, never in my life did I think it would cost so much to develop a video game.

[honest crane]

Everything is becoming more expensive lol

[stark oyster]

Bros chillin

[molten bloom]

5 feet apart

[stark oyster]

Stop 💀

[fleet gulch]

you'd be surprised how cheap 50 million euros sounds to some other games costs

For example, Star Citizen has so far cost 400 million USD and the scam game is still far from being finished

[keen crown]

You tell me that DL2 cost 100 million and I don't believe it.

[queen galleon]

@molten bloom @novel locust

[fleet gulch]

Yeah, DL2 was cheaper than 50 I think, but seeing as they never released a number, we can only estimate

[molten bloom]

[fleet gulch]

if we don't count Star Citizen since this game is still not released, Cyberpunk was the game with the highest budget, costing around 316 million usd, 142 million being just for marketing

[honest crane]

142 million for marketing???

[fleet gulch]

yeeeeeep

[honest crane]

Wtf did they invest to

[fleet gulch]

overhyping the game

[honest crane]

Golden Cyberpunk statues?

[honest crane]

[keen crown]

@fleet gulch You're talking about Star Citizen, a Microsoft game, which has Bill Gates as president who has a fortune per clock seconds, so that game doesn't count.

[fleet gulch]

Star Citizen is NOT a microsoft game, it's a crowd founded game, you're thinking of Star Field