💬︱the-beast

[iron cedar]

Ye

[surreal wolf]

They cry about it being hard? This is a survival zombie parkour game? It’s hard for a reason. Of course, I’m a dummy and I play on the hardest mode on first playthrough because I see something hard and I’m just challenge accepted

[fiery peak]

do u jus die if u run out of hunger ?

or like does it make u restart

[iron cedar]

I actually don’t know 😭

[lapis mural]

Unfortunately yeah there was quite a bit of people complaining, but I get it you can’t make everyone happy but I don’t want people complaining to ruin it for everyone else, if the game is too hard then turn your difficulty down it’s that simple.

[stable nymph]

I think this was how the update before was supposed to be. Maybe they boost it a wee bit a wee bit. But some people are hell bent on speed running LL. It took me 3yrs 700hrs casually to hit 300for DL2 and 1 I'm still 80+ only playing casually its just not a race

[fiery peak]

ima be honest im not rlly a fan of this feture but isa dl game so idrc ill just lock in when i play

[lapis mural]

I haven’t ran out yet so i dont know, ive been half way and lost half my stamina just about I assume you slowly die when your out

[fiery peak]

WAIT DID THEY ADD ALPHA VOLATILES???

[iron cedar]

It’s not that bad you just gotta eat some cookies 🍪

[fiery peak]

oki

[iron cedar]

Yes

[lapis mural]

Yeah one per night that will stalk you continuously

[surreal wolf]

You can never make everyone happy, but I love it when devs have a vision and just go with it. Especially when they figure out how to make the difficulty not annoying

[faint aurora]

Might as well play dying light 1 I guess

[stable nymph]

works like resident evil nemsis enemy and alien isolation

[fiery peak]

awh man only one? still better then none i guess. i need to see theyre design

[stable nymph]

that grind is also garbage too, nobody that is sane wants to run stuffed turtle legit

[faint aurora]

But speaking of fun hunter vs crane games

[lapis mural]

Could change in the future but for now yeah it’s just one that will stalk you until it catches you and starts a chase.

[surreal wolf]

Moldy cookies maybe (:

[fiery peak]

that seems easy enough ig. surely food wont be too hard to find

[lapis mural]

Nothing but some extra flavor 💁🏻‍♂️

[fiery peak]

brb ima go find theyre design i love alpha volatiles theyre so cool :]]]]

[stable nymph]

I don't pvp but besides that 1 is a take your time LL grind or you just do stuffed turtle for 30hrs straight (which is boring) or do magic to then delete replay value

[lapis mural]

The design is okay, it’s dark with glowing orange, I have a feeling it’ll get tweaked as time goes on.

[surreal wolf]

From my experience it isn’t, but I get a feeling Nightmare makes it harder to find stuff. I’m already struggling finding good stuff on Brutal. All I get is nasty chips and moldy cookies

[faint aurora]

Well then the boredom gonna hit us now that techland took our fun away

[stable nymph]

They took nothing away they're just telling people to play properly then exploit xp in the fucking church lol

[surreal wolf]

Obviously you’re not getting creative enough. Of course I don’t care for the grind. I just go around, go into houses and take stuff. I always did that in 1 and 2

[fiery peak]

ill be honest the new design kinda looks mid imo.

[fiery peak]

i might not be able to do dl the beast with a hunger bar depending on how hard it is tbh😭 im not used to zombies and fighting and survival all mixed up

[lapis mural]

Yup that’s why I said it’ll probably get tweaked

[fiery peak]

hopefully

[lapis mural]

It’s not terrible it’s just mid, they could’ve done better for sure

[stable nymph]

idkn people like beating the story and never doing it again just straight free roaming but its so damn boring lol so I do everything like that but story too in my runs

DL1 Alpha> TB Alpha > 2s orange glowstick spammy stun and spongey fest

guess which version I hate

[fiery peak]

if theres a hhunger bar shouldnt there be a thirst bar too tbh

[lapis mural]

Yup same here, I’ve beat the game like 15 times already and 12 of them have been NG+ the others were co op

[stable nymph]

I agree but it works like dead island 2 just wish the drinks or energy bars went towards beast mode like dead island

[surreal wolf]

Honestly to me, sounds like a challenge and I accept it. I just need finish my first playthrough

[lapis mural]

I wish, drinks refill the hunger bar but maybe that’ll change in the future rn they’re testing waters they don’t wanna add too much and overwhelm people

[fiery peak]

i rlly liked dead island tbh. i didnt like it as much as dl but i rlly enjoyed it still imo

[lapis mural]

Drinks should fill Beast meter or something

[fiery peak]

if they dont do it somone might make a mod for it tbh

[lapis mural]

It’d be nice if we had health regen with full hunger as well. That way we don’t have to waste meds for small damage

[stable nymph]

I did enough free roam to hate myself before NG+ its nice to just straight free roam a bit more one run then do story or just do story with a bit of roaming just doing straight free roam with LL300 would have me go play other stuff lol

[stable nymph]

excited for 3, I think at most it comes out during 2028

[surreal wolf]

Tbh DL’s story, the main quests atleast, are fairly short. That’s why I always pad it by going around and enjoying the scenery and use photo mode.

[fiery peak]

THERES A DEAD ISLAND 3 COMING OUT?

[lapis mural]

Lmao yeah fr I can’t just run around all day I like to do everything and with the updates it keeps reelin me back in

[surreal wolf]

On my second playthrough I’ll do it on nightmare with immersive hud. The true nightmare mode lol

[lapis mural]

Yeah but it may be mid so don’t get your hopes up too high, Dead island 2 is super mid unfortunately great graphics and gore but shitty sectioned map and poor story

Lame characters too

[stable nymph]

the map size is like 30% bigger then harran and the antenna area, 1 feels big because its more filled in but its really small in the grand scheme of things. Also story base game is the same length. A lot forget without the following 1 is short which is good because like 2, too much is less quality over quanitity

[fiery peak]

ima do first playthough on hard but no hud then ill do nightmare with hud and ill do ng+ of nightmare without a hud but whenever i come across food ima jus eat it then ill start on brutal.

[lapis mural]

Exactly

[faint aurora]

Aiden story in the beast is so confusing

[stable nymph]

yeah there was a little art thing they did for it with jacob and some stickers on the luggage of him hitch hiking and also I think recently talked about the year

[fiery peak]

im kinda annoyed because ima have to spend more money now of dead island 😭

[fiery peak]

have u played escape dead island or nah

[stable nymph]

but yeah they're aiming for a 2028 release

[fiery peak]

oki

[surreal wolf]

Yeah, because I always got slightly disappointed it ended so soon, especially on the most interesting parts. So I always just parkour around and getting supplies. Plus putting myself on hardest difficulty first playthrough helps pad time too because I start to get extremely paranoid going into a quest area

[lapis mural]

The side game or whatever ? No I only played the first one and riptide an I pre ordered 2 but ended up selling it after beating it I was disappointed

[stable nymph]

yeah posted it over in spoilers

[fiery peak]

oki

[fiery peak]

oki. i have dead island 1, dead island riptide, escape dead island, and dead island 2 ive only completed dead island 2 tho

[upbeat fox]

Probably a hot take but nerfing volatile farming methods is such a BM by the devs.

[stable nymph]

Yeah its just always good to shake it up, its why even as 300 on 2 I just do different things idkn how someone could say the game is boring now that they cant speed run 300 when it wasn't intended or due to exploits

[lapis mural]

Play the game normally like everyone else, if you have to exploit the game to progress or have fun maybe it’s not for you ?

You can level up so damn fast by completing NG+ runs

[obsidian rock]

hello guys

[upbeat fox]

I am playing normally but sometimes I just wanna grind some levels without having to run from objective to objective. Its a single player game lmao shouldn't matter how a person chooses to play it. It literally affects nobody

[obsidian rock]

how's DL the beast doing ?

[stable nymph]

the church exploit was not intended lol if that was anyones method they never cared about playing it long term anyway

[surreal wolf]

I noticed those who use exploits to have fun were never really interested in the actual part of the game, which is parkour. The game really pushes you to keep up the flow and never stop moving (atleast 1 did and makes sense since you’re just a guy). I do feel Beast pushes you to keep on the move, but it does also want you to beast out in certain areas

[harsh island]

Where do I see the community challenge in game? I dont see it on the main menu or in game

[surreal wolf]

You can’t. It’ll be here or atleast on Steam’s news. Or Twitter if you have it.

[harsh island]

I mean, I took a month hiatus because I've been stuck at level 10 for most of my current playthrough and I'm about half way through the game. I think story mode is too easy, so I play on survivor and now nightmare but you get such little xp gain without doing objectives vs losing 900 per death, ontop of needing like a crap ton of xp to level

[covert lark]

At least that game has PvP lmao

[harsh island]

That's strange, so then how do I know if im actually participating in the weekly events if we don't have a counter in game, will I just get the items in my stash randomly?

[covert lark]

Which this game also needs.

[stable nymph]

Agreed, I find the exploiting stuff lame and probably why we don't have pvp atm

[lapis mural]

No one would play it maybe 100-200 tops? Sure a lot of people would try it out and then it’s nose dive like it has in 1 and bad blood. DL fans are PvP players that’s why co op remains and PvP is gone

I swear the DL PvP community doesn’t realize just how small they are sometimes, would it be cool if they tried again ? Sure but I don’t see that happening.

[harsh island]

I'd play it solely to screw over my friends mid mission.

[stable nymph]

well doing all the side quests and main story gets you to 15, each NG+ should do the same thing with XP scaling at least thats how I feel. Just people speed run way too hard.

[covert lark]

Dying Light really was the the one’d and done’d.

PvP on that game is great man.

[lapis mural]

You can already do this 😅

[surreal wolf]

They’ll announce it when we reach a certain goal. There’ll be a ping and show what we got for participating and you’ll find the item in your stash in redeemable rewards. It’s pretty much whenever they make the announcement to show we reach that goal, but for now just have fun and play the game. It is a community thing so don’t worry too much on feeling like you’re not doing much

[harsh island]

I dont have friends on pc 😥

[lapis mural]

It’s cool yeah but most people didn’t enjoy it tbh. Myself and many others turned it off and never bothered with it again after the first few times. DL players are mainly single player types and some like co op but not many enjoy PvP.

[surreal wolf]

Probably. PvP is a coin toss honestly and mainly most like exploiting the hell out of it so they upgrade faster. If I wanted to upgrade faster, I’ll play Warframe lol

[harsh island]

That's fair, I do a lot of the side stuff so far, I just dislike how hefty the death penalty is in the game, especially since we can't earn the death xp back in a timely manner. That's how I feel at least

[covert lark]

I mean I played dying light PvP since 2015.

Had tons of encounters both hilarious, toxic, and enjoyable.

At the end of the day, it’s just a game and y’all whole squad got 1v4’D by me

[harsh island]

I just wanted to be able to tell if I particiapted enough to get the items, I already kissed a katana in my hiatus lol.

[covert lark]

However 4 stacked teams were really fun too coordination wise.

[stark dew]

my friends are genuinely gouging their eyes out trying to beat aiden on nightmare

[upbeat fox]

The church exploit i understand completely. The method i would use was start a chase then get to one of the countryside safe houses (the ones you gotta climb up and turn the power on) where the UV was and try to kill them from there. Idk if thats still considered exploiting but now the volatiles just stand at a distance and spit spam or run away and the chase ends.

[surreal wolf]

Understandable. I do wish we get an in-game counter. Maybe like a little book or something to see the counter go down. That’s why I don’t worry too much about it since it can get you killed easily. I speak from experience when I try to get one last thing and got stuck at night with 12 Volatiles on me lol

[stable nymph]

True I think they did put a system in place to prevent exploiters but still it just ended up being who was cheeser. Just didn't care for it and the community now is heavy into "can anyone give me mats, drop them at the same time or exploits" thats why we don't get to enjoy pvp even if it was another invasion

[harsh island]

Trueeeee, many a times I sacrificed myself to complete the personal challange in the dl2 events

[upbeat fox]

For the record im not just trying to cheat/exploit. Im on my 2nd NG+ playthrough now and just wanted to level up a little more to get stronger weapons. Volatiles are pretty tough but also the best way to get XP fast.

[surreal wolf]

I loved be the zombie because it was cool to be a zombie. But yeah…. Exploiters ruin everything

[lapis mural]

It’s still cheap though, the way you should be doing it is running to each objective and killing them on the way and they keep spawnin that way if you stay in the same spot they’ll eventually stop and you’ll have to start chase again because your not meant to just farm volatiles.

[stable nymph]

its worse in 2 the death penalty its all XP gone but if you had survivors you could get that rez option on a cooldown once a night basically or two so i can't feel that bad now lol

[harsh island]

Wait there was a rez per night option?

[covert lark]

Exactly.

Apex Predator was the Ultra Instinct of that game lmfao

[lapis mural]

Yeah I hated that while leveling up in 2, losing all the XP you earned was ridiculous.

I’m glad it’s only so much now

I remember losing like 5-6k once I was heated

[surreal wolf]

And the scream was terrifying. I did had to turn it off because the random scream scared the crap outta of me and I wouldn’t leave my safe zone at all

[harsh island]

I didn't mind losing all bonus night xp because it didn't just chunk away your overall xp bar. I do mind being on the cusp of level 11 3 times now and dying so I'm still at 10. And yes it is a skill issue, yes I am still salty lmao

[stable nymph]

I mean I've seen people lead them into safehouses to turn on but it wasn't even efficient honestly. I would just do it a bit around safehouses or just run up and down the road but my xp was mostly story content or encounters the first week. Straight farming volatiles to speedurn is kinda why the over tuning and scaling is just in the place it is now

[surreal wolf]

I honestly can’t be too mad at losing so much xp because a lot of my deaths were me forgetting what I was playing. Kept thinking I was playing Warframe only to fall to my death
It’s embarrassing how many times I do this

[stable nymph]

as a survivor perk yes if you give them enough territory which made them just better then PK's

[stable nymph]

Also warframe is very goated good choice.

[stable nymph]

at least you get it nothing wrong with that honestly I felt it wasn't enough especially when NG+ dropped you gained so much but lost so little even nightmare on 1 was brutal on xp.

[surreal wolf]

It’s good but also a curse. I forget how to play other games

[upbeat fox]

Yeah thats true. I just wanna make sure my weapons are strong enough by the time the last mission arrives because they weren't in my NG+1 playthrough and the Barron was cooking my ass 🤣🤣

[harsh island]

My deaths have been me getting grappled before the zombie grapple was nerfed. I legit quit after that out of rage and now I'm back

[harsh island]

I hope that rings true cuz I still need to NG+

[stable nymph]

I used to lose 100k lol

[stable nymph]

Well I am not sure now since im 300 but others might be able to confirm it tbh

[harsh island]

I'd cry myself to sleep

[surreal wolf]

Gods I swear everytime with Crane, zombies grab you so much. I barely had this happen in 2.

[upbeat fox]

Most of my deaths come from fall damage cause I think i can clear a jump that I cant lmao

[harsh island]

Crane is just craning it too hard that they wanna stop him

[stable nymph]

it was mainly due to fall damage honestly and the sudden fall damage taken when swinging to the ground.

[stable nymph]

yeah old peace was peak

[unkempt arch]

[stable nymph]

yeah being 14-15 in the final fight is needed lol the annoying you need to do side stuff from olivia has her be proven right

[harsh island]

How do I get the intermediate blueprint manuals? I haven't found one at all in my 20 hrs of playing

[surreal wolf]

He’s trying to beast out but zombies say no. I actually had this happened once. I was about beast but I got grabbed 😭

[formal fog]

I really think they should make mre rations edible.

Like the only edible valuable.

[surreal wolf]

I believe Dark Zones will have them

[unkempt arch]

Dark Zones.

Pretty sure it's a certain level that you start finding them though.

[formal fog]

Yea they are level based.

[harsh island]

Bro thats what did it, that was my final straw.

I was about to beast all over the place, grappled and insta killed when the grapples did instant damage

[harsh island]

So I won't get them cuz im lvl 10 still?

[unkempt arch]

You should. Just check dark zones.

[harsh island]

Alrighty. Thanks for the info.

[unkempt arch]

No problem.

[surreal wolf]

That sucks. I think I barely get insta killed is because I want it off me and I just spam whatever gets them off faster. They’re honestly scary and I want them away

[covert lark]

||I loved that scream.

Story time.

I used too have a home cinema in my room, I had it sync’d and really fine tune base treble reverb wise for vocals and sound effects.

I remember my father walked into the house late at night and I was pvping this 4 stack as the zombie.

I did the zombie scream for the first time for him with my door open and all the lights off and he ran into my room and said wtf was that it literally just vibrated the whole house and made me almost have a heart attack lmao

I showed him again, and he was like “Jesus Christ.. please use headphones late at night because I don’t wanna hear that in my dreams.”

xD

However he also agreed that whoever designed that audio for the hunter should have gotten a raise as he was very impressed with how demonically fearsomely and intimidating that sounded, like from a eclipse from beserk as he was a fan of the series.

My father isn’t easily spooked ether but that scream on the sound system definitely did the trick lmao||

[harsh island]

Honestly they're not scary to me (Other than volatiles), I just got so mad I rage quit but I can say the game feels a lot better now.

[candid perch]

why did techland nerf xp so bad

[upbeat fox]

Also this game needs more weapon blueprints imo. Like my favorite weapon is a Scythe and you can buy them from a vendor but theres no blueprint for it (yet)

[stable nymph]

How did you like to earn your xp?

[surreal wolf]

I play at night so there’s that

[candid perch]

run around kill volatiles at night

[harsh island]

Trueee. It's 8:20pm and I'm debating if I should get back on or not.

[surreal wolf]

Fight them with just your fists. Daggerfall style

[harsh island]

The fear factor is way worse solo lol

[stable nymph]

yeah I got my shovel sickle wrench and katana but no love for the scythe. No tire iron either or pipe. Its needed lol.

[stable nymph]

had to vibe check you incase you went to church

[candid perch]

each kill used to give >4000 xp now its only like 1200

[stable nymph]

[unkempt arch]

Why are all the legend rewards crappy two handed? That's all I've received so far. I am disappointed.

[upbeat fox]

Im sure they'll get added at some point. But man I wish I had em now

[stable nymph]

the goat handed don't diss my shovel

[unkempt arch]

I hate two handed weapons.

[surreal wolf]

Crazy statement out of context

[harsh island]

Yall have legends levels?

[unkempt arch]

I'm only like legend level 40 something.

[stable nymph]

volatiles need to investigate darkzones (not counting alphas) to crawl in or make these alphas climb the radio towers because one is under me while the baron guy is above me sniping lol

[harsh island]

Luckyyyy lol. I gotta beat the game fast

[candid perch]

ng+ is useless now that xp is so nerfed

[lone path]

god i wanna play the game so bad now, i saw backboardfilms' video on the alpha volatiles and the sounds they make are terrifying

[stable nymph]

had to see if they went to the spot lol

flashbangs to alphas=GG them lol

[muted finch]

they're not? Only like 4 of the legend weapons are two-handed

rest are 1.5 or 1 handed

[unkempt arch]

I have only received two handed and blunt so far. Weapons I do not like.

[stable nymph]

best weapon they ever added in the pass was the shovel

[muted finch]

you should have received a 1h machete at LL10, may need to claim it still?

my favorites of the LL weapons so far are at LL150, L230, and LL250

[lapis mural]

The shovel is pretty good too, I’m all for everyday household items as weapons

[unkempt arch]

I didn't even notice. Will have to check.

[stable nymph]

just need a rake, (pitch fork not throwable) and a table leg, Also the pipe we had back and a tire iron because where the hell is it with all the cars in this universe lol

or a wrench socket

[lapis mural]

I like blunt weapons, it’d be better if we could break bones again but I love the sounds the make, I hardly use any 2h because they’re so slow and cost so much stamina but I like Scythes and the pole arm the best out of 2h

[astral mirage]

We need more finishers and upgrades to beast Mode, maybe after end The nightmare obtain infinite beast Mode reward...

[unkempt arch]

I prefer the one handed weapons. The music blade is my favorite at the moment.

[lapis mural]

Yup exactly, really dig into the survival aesthetic where your grabbin whatever you can find

[whole token]

the LL reward weapons are just bad overall

[stable nymph]

2 has the table leg cant remember if there was a pipe but its a shame the pipe we got wasn't for long and no tire iron like dl1 its mainly slashing heaven or bats...

[muted finch]

you'll have a couple more sharp LL weapons coming soon, at LL60 and LL80

[whole token]

only got one so far that even has mod slots but its still worse than my rust

[unkempt arch]

I'll have to do another NG+ then. Only just finished the first one.

[lapis mural]

Yeah I’m a 1h main as well, rn I’m using the alpinist, when I first got the musical machete I didn’t want to risk breaking it because when I crafted a back up it was just a plain machete with the same shape but I think they fixed that now where if you craft it it’s the musical machete

[astral mirage]

And we need a WEAPON, M60 yeah?

[whole token]

the lvl 60 is a long weapon

[stable nymph]

1 had...none lol also 2s were ones that came out of boxes and were just really boring reskins I sometimes think people forget how lack of or had bad they were before lol oh and the skins while cool had no set effects to transmog so in all TB is probably the best version of the pass

[muted finch]

yeah but it's 1.5H not 2H

[unkempt arch]

Yeah, it was a bug but it's been fixed. I was the same until they fixed it.

[lapis mural]

Yeah bolt action snipers and lmgs would be sick

[lapis mural]

Yeah I thought so

[peak falcon]

What did techland cook up with the nightmare mode man Holy shit

[whole token]

i wish they would just remove all the guns, no way there would be any ammo left anyway

all of em

just take em, they dont fit the game and the only reason they are in the game is because people would complain way too hard if they werent

[lapis mural]

True, but unlike Villedor Castor wood is super remote and Someone like The Baron has the resources to make more. But I will say I do prefer the medieval type vibe DL2 gave with no guns. I liked using bows and crossbows but now I only use them for stealth

[muted finch]

switzerland has a high rate of gun ownership

[whole token]

and how would people get the gunpowder to make more ammo?

[muted finch]

they do fit the game, they worked just fine in DL1. and in the Dead Island games previously

[lapis mural]

The Baron could easily stockpile it

[whole token]

from where?

[stable nymph]

with this logic then they should take away gas

[lapis mural]

Or create an in game alternative maybe i dont know

[stable nymph]

spoiler reasons

[whole token]

kinda true, they could be making biofuel instead of using old ones

[muted finch]

plenty of ammo to go around between personal ownership and military/stockpile

also are you really asking that when trucks magically are still driveable decades later, the gas still works, food and drinks are magically unspoiled, and a couple of spoiler things I can't mention because they're in story/side quests

[stable nymph]

I love how almost all interiors are broken or scrapped as if someone ripped them off the wall floor or off the bolts. The way the beast does looting and how its placed is great. Really hope they bring the snacks over and better place items and gas in cars to at least use towards molotovs.

[lapis mural]

Yeah fr I feel the same way 👍🏽

[whole token]

the food could be replaced with grown things, the fuel i already mentioned and for the ammo, its nearly 20 years after most of the humanity got wiped out, there isnt that much ammo in any military stockpile to last that long with the constant threat out there

[stable nymph]

or how survivors don't shower yeah I can't play this anymore they have perfect teeth too?!

canon wise it would or will be obvious its scarce its not somewhat for gameplay sake

[lapis mural]

I get what your saying but if you get technical and break it down you can rip apart every game and movie because sometimes you just have to roll with it and not every detail is going to make sense

[whole token]

im not asking it to be real life, i just hate the guns in the game since they make no sense at all

sure, you could have a few bullets, not like it is now

[stable nymph]

they do because unlike 2 the city didn't confiscate them and then hide them "under the city" to retcon it back lol

argue with 2 about that logic but for spoiler reasons and gameplay sake it does make sense, afterall its a zombie game lol

[muted finch]

but its not. it's prepackaged food and drinks. it's not homegrown stuff, though we do see the Town Hall has potatoes and stuff (where do they get them? Who knows). It's explicitly stuff with a shelf life

If you can excuse fuel, you can excuse the ammo lol plus #🧭︱beast-spoilers

[whole token]

love the counter argument "but its not"

no its not, duh

[covert lark]

That sounds like a https://discord.com/channels/289739584546275339/1451021952553844827

[whole token]

if it was, i wouldnt have complained about the things i did 😅

[lapis mural]

Like I said personally I prefer the no guns vibe but I also like having guns because it’s another layer added to the game.

[warm gull]

is the xp stuff still bugged

[muted finch]

My point is that there's a dozen things that make no logical sense in this game logistically, singling out ammo is silly

[muted finch]

no they pushed out a hotfix. plus it fixed itself if you finished your NG+ run and started a new one

[whole token]

its one of the major points that constantly get to me, hence i mentioned it as is but i did mention the other things aswell

as for the prepacked food, it could just be survival stuff, like canned foods and mres instead of cookies and chips to have a more genuine feel

[warm gull]

but i heard a lot of people aren't earning a lot of xp though

[muted finch]

they nerfed certain methods of XP gaining to compat people farming

[whole token]

im on ng+1 at LL 61 and a single volatile gives me anything between 7-189xp

[muted finch]

it could but it isn't

[whole token]

and no, i dont cheese them unless im just stuck in a room and i need to get out

[warm gull]

oh ok

[patent matrix]

guys what do yall think should i start over fresh and make a new save for nightmare or just keep using my new game + lol

[whole token]

they 3 tap me anyway now so no point in trying to farm them, especially with the xp barely worth of using your weapon durability on

[stable nymph]

do both

[patent matrix]

alr bett

[whole token]

oh btw, anyone else see those red hazmats way more after the update? i feel like theres way more than before

[stable linden]

hey guys does anyone know if ill get the nightmare rewards if is do a newgame + with it on 100% of the time?

[stable nymph]

you won't if you turned it on mid new game plus but yeah if you beat it then go into a new run with nightmare on you'll get them

[stable linden]

nice thanks

[stable nymph]

np

[stable nymph]

not sure really I do wonder if the green hazmat suits are more frequent they did show up sometimes in certain places or situation and I'd prefer it that way since they suck

[whole token]

havent seen too many of those but the red ones keep stealing all my kills

[muted finch]

the only time i've seen green hazmats outside of one particular side mission where there's one guaranteed is in another side mission where I was fighting waves of virals summoned by a Howler, two of them appeared

[whole token]

i can understand that we dont get the xp from trap kills but if i hit a red hazmat and it just burns a group down and i dont get the xp from that, makes me a bit salty

damn kill stealers

[muted finch]

ikr

[untold goblet]

I just jumped on now and everything is fine exp wise on my end (ps5) I seen some people are still having issues

[whole token]

what level and or ng+ are you at and how much xp you get per zed?

[untold goblet]

Im only level 13 lol about to hit 14, im very much behind everyone else here

I dont mean to brag but I get 10/20 xp per kill😏

🤣

[whole token]

just started later, no worries

survival difficulty i see ^^

[untold goblet]

Lol

[unique mason]

Only one alpha valotile spawns every night ?

[whole token]

i mean i get ~30-40xp on ng+1 on brutal so i feel like it still needs adjusting

it varies a lot also

[unique mason]

And what is that exclusive rewards for nightmare ?

[muted finch]

charms(one for each chimera), a truck skin, and a unique costume as far as I know

[onyx magnet]

You’ve played killing floor haven’t you ?👀😂

[lost shadow]

Anyone having an issue with the school’s out main quest not progressing

[whole token]

actually never have, how come?

[onyx magnet]

Oh cause you called the zombies zeds and that’s what the enemies in killing floor are called 😂

[whole token]

zombies being called zeds is pretty universal i think 🤔

[onyx magnet]

Great possibility 🤔 but it just made me think of it is all

[whole token]

fair enough

[wise elk]

Gone are the days of actually feeling my level

[muted finch]

yeah now i'm gonna have to do NG+10 to get back to how I want the game to feel probably

[wise elk]

I just miss feeling like I was actually a force of nature of a survivor at level 100

[muted finch]

same

[wise elk]

Like I'm at 116 but I'm 2 tapping regular ass shamblers with a sword that does 70k on ng+2?

I get they're going for new game plus scaling your levels for people who want the challenge but seriously

[muted finch]

i'm 257 on NG+4 and I only 2 tap with iconic pistol or (sometimes) the iconic polearm

iconic sickle/axe take like 5 hits

at least on biters, other enemies take more or less hits

[sudden zealot]

the nightmare difficulty adds hunger and mentions penalties. what kind of penalties does being hungry include? I couldn't find anything about it in the game guide or menus.

[wise elk]

I love just slashing and smashing the zombies easily including volatiles because it felt earned

Also goodbye to farming levels like the volatile methods because they can't be assed to make repayable bosses like the aberrations in dl2 since you can't do relief pack farming like in dl1 since there's no governments

[mellow escarp]

gg, now leveling up become more impossible

[wise elk]

Yup

[regal pawn]

it has different phases, when u reach hungry state ur health and stamina cap decreases by like 30% and when ur fully starving u die

[wise elk]

Oh and don't get me started on the fact that those same aberrations actually gave you good shit and good resources too from the the crates you farmed. Yet again another feature they should have added

[untold goblet]

What parts not progressing for you? I just did that mission yesterday and had no issues behind getting lpst in that fucking school at the start lol🤣

[dense venture]

what is the point in legend levels now? LL 300 does the same damage as level 15 lol

they also killed the fists only playstyle which sucks

[regal pawn]

I guess the rewards 😭

[lost shadow]

It’s every time we are in co-op together. When we all leave our friend it fixes so I think it’s a co-op bug

[lapis mural]

LL300 and level 15 don’t even do remotely close amounts of damage, you are probably on a easy difficulty and a low NG+ once you get up to NG+8 the game gets harder again and maxes out at NG+11 level 300 areas and infected

Level 15 weapons won’t tickle level 300 enemies

[cunning abyss]

Woah alpha volatiles are finally in im so excuted to play in a min anythibg else new guy?

[dense venture]

thats not what i mean

at level 15 i 3 hit enemies and at ll 300 i do exactly the same

there's no sense of "progression" or feeling stronger the more you level up like it originally was

[muted finch]

Sorry, too many people who grinded themselves to max LL complained that they were OP and Techland hates fun

[cunning abyss]

Also i can never hook onto this game i always get bored after a while

[lapis mural]

Yeah well it usually goes lol that, you get super OP then work your way back to balanced but slightly stronger and other boosted stats

And we were stronger til the patch people complained too much

Can’t make everyone happy unfortunately

[dense venture]

yeah i just dont understand that mindset really

if you're ll 300 you should feel like a badass that just demolishes everything

[lapis mural]

Yeah me neither I liked being super strong, I could always use weaker weapons if I wanted a challenge and the enemies still did lots of damage and with nightmare they’re lethal now.

I’m sure they’ll make tweaks overtime till they find the sweet spot

[muted finch]

I mean they were pretty close with the previous patch, all they needed to do was buff the higher NG+ enemies a bit more for those that wanted more of a challenge and it would have been perfect

people who want the power fantasy could've stayed on lower NG+, people who want a challenge could do more NG+

[lapis mural]

Yeah for sure it’s pretty close

Nothing some minor tweaks can’t fix in future updates

[muted finch]

yeah I hope there's enough outcry from people for them to swing the pendulum towards a middle ground a bit

[untold goblet]

I see, hopefully it gets resolved and doesn't stop you from progressing the story line

[wise elk]

I'm sorry but I could never get tired of just slicing up zombies and being a freak of nature. I did ng+ on dl 1 and 2 at max level dozens of times on the same save and just loved bullying the biters

Genuinely I love this game but I want to to feel like a fucking monster again

[muted finch]

yeah I gushed in the survey about how I liked feeling like a beast and that it seemed like it was balanced well enough where lower NG+ runs but higher LL would give players the option of a challenge or being "a beast"

too many whiners who exploited themselves to LL300 and got mad that they were 1 tapping enemies drowned out those of us that like the power fantasy

[granite rampart]

Why eating does nothing? Crane is still starving

[wise elk]

It's not easy to reach people just had time to farm

Yeah because it was double xp I'm talking normally

[muted finch]

I mean if you used exploits/farming methods yes with the double XP event

but like even then I was only sometimes farming volatiles and I only overleveled myself initially by maybe 10-20 levels

you specifically had to grind to get to max

[wise elk]

Exactly

[dense venture]

after a certain level farming volatiles is pretty much useless too

i have no idea what kind of shit people were doing to get ll 300 so fast

[wise elk]

Me either

[burnt mesa]

Is it better to play the update with higher LL or lower? Or does it matter

[wise elk]

Doesn't matter anymore

[burnt mesa]

ah ok, NG+ either?

like NG+ 3 or 7

is one better

[wise elk]

Just gets harder

[burnt mesa]

so a lower NG+ number is less hard?

[wise elk]

Yup

[burnt mesa]

thanks

[lapis mural]

I’m pretty sure they made it to where when you start a NG+ run it’ll scale to your level.

[muted finch]

If you're in the middle of a NG+ run, higher LL means you will do more damage and 1 tap enemies

If you start a new NG+ run OR finish your current NG+ and start the next one, it doesn't matter. Enemies will scale with your Legend Level.

I finished NG+3 and started NG+4 earlier today. At the time I was LL 251, and my axe and sickle took 5 hits to kill a biter. Polearm took 2-3, and pistol took 2.

[burnt mesa]

I thought so too but you guys are more knowledgable than patch notes

[muted finch]

Chimeras and Volatiles also take a lot more hits

previously/before I started NG+4 with this update, I was 1 tapping every single enemy

[lapis mural]

But before NG+1-7 were really easy the only difference was you took more damage, NG+8-11 is where you stopped one shotting and things get harder each run. But I’m not sure now, I completed my nightmare run Max LL300 and on NG+12 and it was pretty damn hard especially near the end

[burnt mesa]

I have 3 saves NG+ 2,3,4. 4 is LL 300, was just wondering

[muted finch]

In that case, at least from what I've heard, the game will in a lot of ways feel like it did before NG+ and LL were added in that NG+4 save with LL300. But Nightmare mode will be extremely difficult, humans and volatiles kill you in like 2 hits

[lapis mural]

Humans will auto aim you so quick and shotguns and snipers are lethal asf, volatiles will wreck you and same with bosses

😂

[burnt mesa]

They kinda already did on brutal anyway

[brittle anchor]

So they fixed the scalings?

[burnt mesa]

but I imagine it's worse

[burnt mesa]

No idea, haven't played it yet, jumping in now

[brittle anchor]

I hope so

I got halfway thru ng+2 and ended up dropping it

[muted finch]

Enemies now scale with your LL once you start a new NG+

if you're in the middle of NG+ enemies will not scale, you will need to finish that NG+ OR start a new NG+ separately for enemies to scale with your LL

[burnt mesa]

There's patch notes on the Pilgrim site

[brittle anchor]

Yeah I’ll probably just start a new one

[dense venture]

also im pretty sure xp gain in nightmare is still busted, i only earn 2k max from everything 😭

this update is so broken

[brittle anchor]

Techland test things before releasing them challenge

[lapis mural]

They made it to where you can’t farm Volatiles for XP anymore so you have to play the main story and quests for XP

Lots of people were just exploiting their way to LL300 then never touching the game again til next update, this way people actually have to play the game to level up.

Fortunately I maxed out during double XP which felt like 8x 🗿

[dense venture]

i dont seem to earn any more than 2k xp from encounters anymore either

nerfing shit like xp gain and weapon dmg in a single player game is just weird

its not like the zombies are complaining to techland we're earning xp too fast

[unkempt arch]

You finished the game finally?

[strong pier]

NG+ was incorrectly scaled before

[unkempt arch]

Seems to go quite fast for me. I didn't play when the update hit, but just finished my first NG+ and am legend level 46.

[candid perch]

I agree xp got nerfed way too much

[burnt mesa]

Oh ya, I've had lots of time lately, working on NG+ 4 now Maxed out legend levels

[unkempt arch]

Damn, I only just finished my first NG+

And only legend 40 something.

[burnt mesa]

Well I haven't had to work and sitting at home is boring af

[unkempt arch]

Oh yeah, I been real busy with work so haven't had any time to play.

[burnt mesa]

I miss work

[unkempt arch]

Is combat the only way to level?

[burnt mesa]

I did it through quests

and shooting vollies at night with the bow maxed out

on my way to quests

[unkempt arch]

Which bow?

[burnt mesa]

just played at night

[unkempt arch]

Crossbow or regular?

[burnt mesa]

The LL bow Bronze bow

[devout dome]

So I’ve started a new game now for the latest update, and am looking to just explore, like doing a few story missions then side quests, any thoughts or is that a good idea for a new game

[burnt mesa]

but they nerfed all the weapons so you have a tough grind in front now

[unkempt arch]

I did notice that I got a bow from legend levels, but it's eh.

[burnt mesa]

Sorry, they scaled the enemies not nerfed the weapons

I am slightly concerned after doing 3 NG+ one shotting everything with a sneeze

They are kicking my ass on nightmare

lol

[unkempt arch]

I still need to do a Nightmare run.

[burnt mesa]

I'm trying it now

[unkempt arch]

But time is not on my side at the moment.

Maybe in a week.

[burnt mesa]

I really want to speed run it

hope to finish it today

and never do it again

[unkempt arch]

I can send you that video now that you've finished the game.

[burnt mesa]

yes

[unkempt arch]

I'll DM it to you.

[burnt mesa]

remember to stock up on in game food and drinks, you will need them in nightmare

[unkempt arch]

I have a ton in my stash.

[burnt mesa]

good

[unkempt arch]

I rarely ever use them.

[untold goblet]

How's everyone enjoying nightmare

[burnt mesa]

I never used them either, glad

[unkempt arch]

Yeah, I just stockpiled them and then shoved them in the stash.

[radiant breach]

Something that the devs didnt put in the patch notes, is that you get diminishing returns on xp when killing enemies until you stop getting xp altogether

really crappy way of balancing

[burnt mesa]

you will burn through them

[unkempt arch]

They better than the medkits?

Or just cause handy to have?

[burnt mesa]

Different, they don't restore health anymore

[unkempt arch]

Oof.

[burnt mesa]

stamina and hunger

you need them

[unkempt arch]

Oh, hunger is a thing?

[muted finch]

its fun in some ways but annoying in others.

[unkempt arch]

Well, shit.

[sullen flame]

Dude the alphas puppy guarding my quest

[muted finch]

in Nightmare mode yeah

[burnt mesa]

yes, very much, you get weak when you are hungry

[sullen flame]

I js started nightmare ng+

And its js sitting theirbat the spot gng

[unkempt arch]

I haven't touched Nightmare mode yet, so I dunno.

[muted finch]

the main thing you'll want for nightmare are batteries and food/drink consumables

lots and lots

[fresh slate]

does anyone know if playing nightmare on ng+ will give the same rewards or do i need to start a new save typa thing

[sullen flame]

Same rewards

[fresh slate]

just wanna make sure before i suffer ts out

[sullen flame]

But new ones to

[strong pier]

and batteries

[sullen flame]

Dude the alphas a dickhead

I cant complete the quest cause hes guarding it🥀

[muted finch]

You won't get the Nightmare rewards unless its the beginning of a NG+ run AFAIK, could be wrong.

[fresh slate]

to be sure ill start a new one why not

[burnt mesa]

ok, thanks, will collect them all

[sullen flame]

You flashlight only last 7.5 minutes

Wait jhon why are you taking tips from us gng🥀

[burnt mesa]

I'm not planning on doing a lot of night time play

[sullen flame]

Its sucks🥀

[fresh slate]

also is the so called “hardest challenges” for nightmare literally just playing the campaign..? or am i missing something entirely

[fresh slate]

genuinely?

[burnt mesa]

Just started my first Nightmare run and you guys know everything

[sterile mantle]

If I have a current NG+ run is there a way to up the difficulty mid run or do I need a new NG+ run because I want to do nightmare mode

[sullen flame]

The rewards are meh

[burnt mesa]

I don't care, I have a 300 save already

not using it for this run though

Using my 187 LL save

[sullen flame]

Ih your fucked jhon🥀

[burnt mesa]

Ya, I guessed lol

Is the 300 better?

The enemies scale

[sullen flame]

Cause pretty sure they matched legend saves to your next ng+

Scale to the save

No more 1 Taps twin

[burnt mesa]

I don't want to fight Level 300 enemies

[sullen flame]

It scales from 150 up pretty sure

[burnt mesa]

Oh I know, I can live with that

[stable nymph]

darkzones are a fun surprise

finishers are still bugged on regular infected though regardless of scaling lol 3 weeks now BTW

[burnt mesa]

I don't use finishers

[stable nymph]

Well I do ?

[strong pier]

yes but then you won't get the Nightmare reward

[sullen flame]

Why cant they js add the prompt when u walk up to them

[burnt mesa]

ok, animations break the game flow for me, but enjoy them if you like them

[sullen flame]

Are you deadass?

[stable nymph]

lol I don't think they really do but with what you said just disregarded how its a bug for those who do

[burnt mesa]

Ya, I hope they patch it for you

[strong pier]

You cannot change to nightmare in the middle of a campaign and get the nightmare reward.

[stable nymph]

I don't do them left and right but once in awhile for spice I've tried the rogue set and blunt even NG+10 when it stopped being one shot city their stamina damage just doesn't scale or work really lol surprised its taken this long atm works for non NG+ brutal players

[sullen flame]

Oh no I meant like if I start a ng+ I can get the rewards

[burnt mesa]

Ya, same as all DL games

[fresh slate]

still get them if you run another ng+ tho correct

[burnt mesa]

yes

[fresh slate]

yippie

[stable nymph]

if you're mid run and turn on nightmare you gotta finish it then beat the next one pretty much which is OK

[sullen flame]

PEAK

[unkempt arch]

It has to be a full run with no changing to get rewards. As it has been for all DL games.

[fresh slate]

i might lowkey run a new save just for the challenge

[sullen flame]

Actually dl1 you cant get nightmare rewards on ng+

[stable nymph]

volatiles in my gas station man

[unkempt arch]

Yes, you can.

[sullen flame]

No

[unkempt arch]

Yes.

[burnt mesa]

yes you can

[stable nymph]

for beating it there is one

[sullen flame]

I did a ng+ on nm I didnt get shit

[stable nymph]

pretty sure an outfit

[sullen flame]

Literally not a single outfit

[unkempt arch]

Did you do co-op at any point?

[burnt mesa]

then it bugged or someone joined your game who wasn't on nightmare

[sullen flame]

No

It js didnt give me anything

[stable nymph]

we talked about this lol the outfit zombie crane is the one

D.O.A one

[strong pier]

and the guy I replied to was already in a NG+

[sullen flame]

Lol we did

[unkempt arch]

If you ran a single player game on Nightmare, no interruptions or anything, you would have gotten the rewards. Unless it bugged/

[stable nymph]

Not sure if there was others but yeah its one I don't even touch lol

[unkempt arch]

But you can get the rewards on NG+.

[burnt mesa]

Its very rare that it bugs

[sullen flame]

Dude deadass the alpha is being a cuck

[unkempt arch]

Yeah, very rare.

[sullen flame]

He's guarding me

[unkempt arch]

It is usually co-op that breaks it.

[burnt mesa]

usually people didn't have it set to nightmare from the beginning

[stable nymph]

my bad the two outfits for DL1 nightmare when beating is D.O.A. and
Brainsss.

[burnt mesa]

they play a minute or two first

[unkempt arch]

Better outfits are Hard Mode, ngl.

But if you do it on Nightmare, you get all 4 anyway.

[stable nymph]

My favorite has to be the 50 packages you get off the old town ops guys lol probably the most annoying over nightmare

[unkempt arch]

Trick-o-treater for me, hard mode outfit. Or Quarantine Demon which is legend level based.

[sullen flame]

That was my plan

[gusty rose]

Will alpha volatile be there in brutal difficulty or only nightmare exclusive?

[unkempt arch]

I dunno.

I didn't even know there was one until I saw the achievements.

[trim sable]

They broke the game! When will it be fixed?

[muted finch]

Nightmare exclusive

[stable nymph]

I don't even remember that demon outfit lol I've only hit like 80 casually

[primal jacinth]

is it better to complete all side quests, unlock all safe houses n stuff like that before moving onto the next NG?

[unkempt arch]

It is legend level 150 iirc.

[gaunt trench]

How do we actually change the batteries? I know its in inventory bit im not seeing a button prompt

[muted finch]

not necessarily because they will all reset in the next NG+

play how you want though, as those activities provide XP, loot crates that will give you craftparts/throwables/weapons which can help advance your LL and maintain your weapons

[gaunt trench]

Nvm

[scenic pier]

hold 1

[muted finch]

for me I do a select couple of side quests

[gaunt trench]

Its under gear was expecting it to be tied to gadget slot

[muted finch]

hold 1 and press F

or in the menu hover over it and press spacebar

[stable nymph]

ah ok yeah had to dig on the wiki looks good picture doesn't do it justice lol

[cunning abyss]

It feels too easy, not in the way like fighting = too easy but more of encountering night i can just go to sleep

I know i can choose not to but whats the fun in choosinh

[stable nymph]

Well of course going to sleep in game to skip the night challenge would make the game easy lol

[cunning abyss]

I want to have to earn that sleep

Actually get exhausted and wish i didnt do it

[stable nymph]

There is no earning sleep lol just earning to live another night

[cunning abyss]

Yk what would be cool, if every day got harder

[vestal needle]

Techland can you change kopis skin to make it different than reinforced kopis? like camp axe vs reinforced camp axe

[cunning abyss]

I havebt played the game a lot guys and i get discord notifs that you completed somethibg do i still get it?

Prob not

[stable nymph]

I mean every night isn't ever the same its just how you go about it, if someone wants a true crazy experience then perma death (deleting your save) would be that challenge

[cunning abyss]

They are doing good though which i appreciate and honestly to me this game stands out and is underrated

I am gratefull for this new update because now i can pretend to be a gut just running around after the outbreak, maybe beacuse i also am

Like some mortal guy not overly powerful

[gaunt trench]

They should make it so that if you camouflage outside of the view of the alpha then it hides your scent and he loses you

[stable nymph]

1 alphas saw through it lol so as is the tradition never camo'd around tyrants in 2 so not even sure if they worked the same

[cunning abyss]

I havent played this update yet but i saw 1 video and read the article thing so im excited to see how it is

What is the alpha like?

Is it 10x stronger or something and i know most of it

[gaunt trench]

Basically cod zombies

Knows where you are all the time and is relentless

[cunning abyss]

I plqyed the original so i know it can see through camo and very strong

This one has kind of like smelling?

[gaunt trench]

Yea he can track you cross map

So always knows where you are

[cunning abyss]

Relentless is the best

[gaunt trench]

Like cod zombies

[cunning abyss]

The normal ones are way too easy

[stable nymph]

best part is he can also run to catch up on your scent shit is terrifying with little hud lol

[cunning abyss]

The graghics optimisation for console is kinda mind blowing to me

[stable nymph]

so I ran turned my head and almost ran into regular patrols was wild

[cunning abyss]

Especially when i saw the rain

Whej there was that much rain and i was just sitting at 60 frames i couldnt believe it

[gaunt trench]

And I think the alpha should be able to see through camouflage cause he supposed to be smart should be able to tell the difference between a zombie and crane by looking at them but I think it should mask your smell so he loses your scent for a bit

[stable nymph]

if he doesn't that would be sad lol because I usually camo around crates to loot at night

[cunning abyss]

Gibes you a small help

Loses him untill it goes away

[gaunt trench]

Gonna be even better when they actually release a ps5 pro version and not just the ps5 version running on pro

[cunning abyss]

I wonder what a 5090 would look like

[gaunt trench]

I mean...pretty damn good with dlss

[muted finch]

do you mean the weekly challenges of the Call of the Beast Challenge? You'll only get the rewards if

A. you participate in the week
B. you participate in at least one week of the challenge AND we as a community complete 20/22 goals

[still trout]

Dude, the flashlight is just not turning on in the nightmare mode. Is it just me or is anyone else going through this?

[gaunt trench]

Main issue for me is the blur on console rn especially the pro cause no pssr

[still trout]

It only stays on for like 3 seconds n turns off.

[stable nymph]

most devs cant be assed like Nintendo with the switch 2 and they just port it to port it. People with pros I feel mostly got robbed since it took half the gen to even get actual next gen only games lol

[gaunt trench]

Gotta change batts

[muted finch]

gotta change your batteries :)

[still trout]

Batts?

[still trout]

Ohhh? You need batteries now? How do you change batts?

[stable nymph]

hold the tool wheel and then look to the right you have to craft batteries now which is a W

look scroll over your flashlight*

[gaunt trench]

I dont feel robbed, plenty of game devs that do the pro right im thoroughly enjoying playing 4k 60+ and not having to downgrade to 1440p for 60fps

[muted finch]

hold 1 and press F

or in the inventory screen hover over the flashlight icon in the bottom right (under the armor icons) and press spacebar

[still trout]

Damn, they actually made this so much interesting.

[muted finch]

yep. flashlight needs batteries, hunger bar, alpha volatile

[stable nymph]

because they can for sure push the consoles to their max in the way R* did with 360/PS3 plus optimization, covid didn't help but they also cater to old gen half way through current gen lol

[gaunt trench]

Yea they definitely kept ps4 and Xbox one alive way longer than they shouldve

[stable nymph]

Yeah I think getting my PS5/XSX at launch left me salty because it took 5 years for them to realize its time to move on from a console that is 10yrs old and make games look well current gen lol and make also new games

[gaunt trench]

Helldivers 2 and spiderman 2 came out pretty early on

[stable nymph]

I should say at least PS5 has a pro. Xbox decided to release a 2tb sparkly xbox series x the same time as the PS5 pro (great reading the room) from them that is basically the same and they're more interested in damn handhelds as wel

[gaunt trench]

But I assume youre xbox

[stable nymph]

I was PS5 at launch as well but it had like no new games besides maybe like demon souls and miles morales

most of it was just PS4 games with PS5 enhanced Xbox was the same so I went back to PC at the time

[gaunt trench]

Ps5 pro is where its at tho im not gonna lie sony is doing some crazy innovative things with pssr and compression

[stable nymph]

I was thinking of getting it one day but only for the games that are only for it, I moved back to xbox so I grabbed a series s casually until microsoft decides to do a real pro and not a sparkly 2tb xbox or at least if the new consoles won't be 1000+ and at that point i may go back to pc with that money instead to outperform them

[gaunt trench]

Its worth it, pro shines in games where devs properly utilize it

Like ac shadows for example

And thats just 1 example

[stable nymph]

Yeah I do have AC shadows ubisoft at least gets the world looks done right lol its why I want the new ghost

[gaunt trench]

Oh yea yotei looks great on pro also and dont even get me started on no mans sky

[burnt mesa]

Lol, this shit is hard af

love it

[gaunt trench]

Friggin 8k gaming

No mans sky in 8k on pro is a beaut

[stable nymph]

Yeah NMS is a goat game those devs are crazy

[stable nymph]

have you gone in darkzones?

[gaunt trench]

For real tho talk about a late bloomer

[stable nymph]

cyberpunk probably looks good as well I'd imagine

[burnt mesa]

Not yet, about a half hour into it

[stable nymph]

[burnt mesa]

don't need any supplies, yet

[gaunt trench]

It does and the fps is good too

[stable nymph]

its not the supplies in there I will say hehe

[stable nymph]

not surprised they managed to fit the entire game and its dlc on the disc for the switch 2 wizard shit lol

[burnt mesa]

I have a lot of stuff on this save and don't care about xp so I'll probably avoid them, fighting is dumb if you don't have to

Like DL1 nightmare

[unkempt arch]

Choose your battles.

[burnt mesa]

yes

death is common

[unkempt arch]

I love it like that.

[burnt mesa]

Alpha killed me 10 times before I got him

lol

[unkempt arch]

Does he spawn in the same spot? Or is it random?

[burnt mesa]

Almost makes a tour of unlocking safe zone worth it early or you'll be screwed at night getting cought out there

[burnt mesa]

random

[unkempt arch]

Ah okay.

[burnt mesa]

and he follows you everywhere

[unkempt arch]

Fan club.

[burnt mesa]

stalker

[stable nymph]

I just beast mode them down honestly, even a flash bang stuns them for seconds its more for challenge lol so its either deal with night and the alpha (who he can go in I think by vent could be wrong since it happened in the school) or just go in during the day deal with some with no alpha over your neck its kinda even

he spawns close by all the time so I do know that

[burnt mesa]

Honestly I'm going to avoid the night as much as possible, it's crazy hard to do anything except run like hell lol

[sullen flame]

Isnt yaga a chimera?

[burnt mesa]

Can't kill anything, everythings faster than you

[unkempt arch]

Is it that noticeable on Nightmare?

[stable nymph]

Yeah if not fully focused into stuff prep wise its tough but fun though im on NG+11 300LL reminds me of 2 it gets better

[burnt mesa]

I need to unlock all the safe zones, worth the time

[stable nymph]

Yeah worth it for sure to grab em.

[burnt mesa]

Otherwise you'll just be fast travelling across the map every time you die, which is a lot

[stable nymph]

no but shes the only infected with both bitties out

[stable nymph]

at least the vendor would reset

[burnt mesa]

They should have named it insane not nightmare

[unkempt arch]

Oh really? Is it Extinction mode then? I am down for it if it is.

[random solstice]

comes on.

[stable nymph]

He does not climb radio towers so thats something lol

[burnt mesa]

I died 20 times in the first night mission

[stable nymph]

but he does run to catch up on your tracks

[random solstice]

nightmare mode is added

feeeeeeeeeeck i am in the mid of ng+

feeeck

[stable nymph]

I saw him across the water and next thing you know hes on my ass in the warehouse area lol ran into a patrol almost due to snapping my head back to see him doing it

[burnt mesa]

He's fast af

[stable nymph]

so basically one sec hes there the next hes not and is behind greatest thing they ever did with these guys lol they're lucky they don't cloak

[sullen flame]

They should make it where the tit can come off

[stable nymph]

[burnt mesa]

and he distracts you from the other vollies in the chase which is a big mistake lol

[random solstice]

should i restrat my playthru of ng+ to be on nightmare

cuz i just finished the power station quest

[sullen flame]

I js killed him

[burnt mesa]

me too

[sullen flame]

Turns out theirs a day time in the quest

[stable nymph]

you see the mods here are not max like us because they have lives

[sullen flame]

No they dont they're discord mods

[random solstice]

what yall think, should i restart my ng+ playthru

[sullen flame]

No

Wait depends what level are you

[burnt mesa]

no, finish it and stock up on supplies for the nightmare run

[random solstice]

i just got to power station, finished that quest

[sullen flame]

No i mean legend level

[random solstice]

oh

amm i think 15?

[sullen flame]

Gng😭✌️

Doesn't matter if u do it or not your cooked🥀

[random solstice]

?

dont enemies scale with legend levels?

[burnt mesa]

Legend level doesn't matter, everyone's cooked

[sullen flame]

Your getting 1 tapped by the alpha 💔

[stable nymph]

New Game+ & Legendary Levels:

Adjusted the NewGame+ and Legendary Levels progression curves to reduce farming exploits and balance the experience better.
Starting a NewGame+ will now check the Legend Level of players to adjust enemies difficulty accordingly.
Reaching Legend Level 300 before reaching NewGame+ 10 will make enemies' difficulty adjust accordingly.

[sullen flame]

No really that alphas js makes more volatiles spawn in then normal

[thorny crane]

Hi

[sullen flame]

Bye

[burnt mesa]

hey

[sullen flame]

Nah jk we love you grotto🌹

[random solstice]

that sound exesive, the alpha in dl1 wasnt that bad

[sullen flame]

No it la bad

Like bad bad

[random solstice]

oiook?, i

[thorny crane]

We ready to grind some nightmare today

[burnt mesa]

Oh he's much worse

[sullen flame]

Nightmare xp seems the same as brutual

[stable nymph]

lets just say wait till you get towards the end of nightmare 2 bosses stand out all I'll say lol

[burnt mesa]

I'm ready

[sullen flame]

Ive actually clobbered the first 3

[burnt mesa]

to die

[sullen flame]

They aren't that hard

[random solstice]

ok im ath te new strain quest

[sullen flame]

Pretty sure its 150 and 300

[random solstice]

atm i dont want to do side obj as they dont help the ending

im...legend level 19

[sullen flame]

I would do the look back in anger

[random solstice]

feck my equipment is so outdated

[sullen flame]

It kinda helps build the story together ngl

[stable nymph]

I said the fight in spoilers with who said they died 60 times to the one boss lol

[burnt mesa]

Oh I'm going to finish it as fast as possible in daylight, main missions only

[sullen flame]

Theirs no wya its that bad reborn🥀

[random solstice]

im on brutal not nightmare

[sullen flame]

First night mission is horrid

[thorny crane]

Really?

[sullen flame]

Yes

[thorny crane]

I mean I found it fine tbh

[burnt mesa]

I'm still in it, died so many times wondering if I can even do it

[sullen flame]

Dude he was puppy guarding the quest objective😭🙏

[random solstice]

ig ill wait till they fix nightmare

[patent geyser]

Let me tell you this, Techland has literally ruined this game because not only did the plastic appear automatically, but the inscription should be active all the time and not only once in a while or the missions get stuck.

[sullen flame]

Wait till day or kill it

[stable nymph]

well it was a him issue @broken crown but grotto did it like one shot right?

[random solstice]

you cant till past the first night mission change to day time

[sullen flame]

Groot your legend 300 right?

[random solstice]

thats how it always is in dying light games, the clock doesnt start till you do the night mission

[stable nymph]

plastic as in trash?

[thorny crane]

Ye

[gaunt trench]

Yooooooo the alpha volatile comes into dark zones while youre in there!!!!!

[sullen flame]

You might be fucking stupid gng😭

[burnt mesa]

yay

[thorny crane]

Only boss I struggled with was final one cus of new attacks they gave him

[sullen flame]

Have u started nightmare on ng?

[stable nymph]

YEP the school was my experience and I was on the second floor lmao

[thorny crane]

Yes I started half way on a playthrough now started my own

[burnt mesa]

I just want this first night mission to end

[stable nymph]

Its okay John open your game buddy I'm xbox too

lmao

[sullen flame]

So js started your playthrough on nightmare

[burnt mesa]

Na, have to do this myself

pride cometh before the fall

[random solstice]

are there any iconic weapons with mod slots?

[stable nymph]

lol was kidding but yeah you got this

[sullen flame]

I got you twin🌹

[thorny crane]

Basically but I find it good so far no issues

[stable nymph]

the humbling of nightmare is the best I will say

[sullen flame]

What quest are you on

[gaunt trench]

Bruhhhh how tf we supposed to loot dark zones now

[unkempt arch]

Beat it solo first, then co-op.

[thorny crane]

Kill them what else

[burnt mesa]

The Beast Within

[thorny crane]

This update was exactly what I wanted

[sullen flame]

Need help?

[burnt mesa]

No, thanks, gotta do this myself, get a feel for it

[stable nymph]

Word of advice save beast mode fully near death (use inhalers) or use flash bangs for like a 5 sec stun. It's kinda even during the day since night you have tons of patrols and alpha so pick your poison

[unkempt arch]

John be dancing on the heads of his enemies in no time.

[burnt mesa]

preach

[unkempt arch]

[sullen flame]

Beast is actually the most useful thing in nightmare now

[stable nymph]

I don't think they're always at the same darkzone so I could be wrong. Hoepfully thats the case to shake up thinking we know they're there.

[gaunt trench]

Never going in a dark zone again

[thorny crane]

I don’t use that so fighting is so much better now

[sullen flame]

Not all dark zones have bolatiles

[sullen flame]

Its the same a dl2 but more refined

I never really liked the look of dl2s weapons

[thorny crane]

What we thinking about the hunger so far me I love it we just need more bad effects for being low hunger imo

[gray jacinth]

heyo. are there any devs online?

[gaunt trench]

I love the hunger mechanic

[sullen flame]

Meh mechanic

Should need water to

Make it where we can piss and shit

[gaunt trench]

At least the water fixes hunger

[gray jacinth]

im tryna make a dying light app but need to know legality on things. ik the api isnt open

[sullen flame]

I wanna take a dump on wraith head ngl

[sullen flame]

App for what

[stable nymph]

its that or try to loot them at night with the alpha coming in or dealing with patrols lol its not soooo bad

[sullen flame]

Like what would I be for xero

[stable nymph]

I do wish water was separate but hey its a start

[gaunt trench]

I went in 1 dark zone during day there was like 5 volatiles

[gray jacinth]

im getting ideas from a lot of people but idk what to make it

[gaunt trench]

All grouped up at the entrance

[thorny crane]

Ye would have made it much nicer tbh

[gaunt trench]

Just waiting for me to come in

[gray jacinth]

what would yall like to see

[sullen flame]

What's like the thing your actually working on

[stable nymph]

modders will fix that poor console me

[calm walrus]

Is anyone else a little disappointed with the Alpha Volatile model

[sullen flame]

Dude modders need more freedom

[stable nymph]

swat team them with a flash bang brotha

[sullen flame]

They could genuinely make every game so much better

[gaunt trench]

I am

[random solstice]

hmm what if i switch from brutal to nightmare upon my last mission

[gaunt trench]

Basically any old volatile bit with red eyes

[stable nymph]

doesn't work mid run for rewards

[sullen flame]

Actually the chest is stitched up on it unless its on the others

[gray jacinth]

tbh idk yet. i havent had much ideas besides people asking me to make a companion but i cant

[sullen flame]

Its useless if you are ngl

The outpost has everything

[gray jacinth]

you can’t manage your inventory on there can you?

[sullen flame]

I want the dying light companion app back🤤🤤🤤

Shit was peak to use

[stable nymph]

I do wish the pilgrim outpost was a app for the phone but the site itself when big stuff happens has it die lol

[calm walrus]

Yeah just a black Volatile with an eye and mouth glow that honestly looks like a halloween visual effect, I was sort of hoping for a Volatile that looked similar to Wraith did :(

[sullen flame]

You can have it as an app

You can install from chrome big dawg

[gray jacinth]

that’s basically what people wanted me to use. like something you can move items around. grab stuff out of your stash, track stuff. all that

[stable nymph]

chrome in 2025 when not using PC? I use safari lol

[gaunt trench]

Or a volatile that looked like the night hunter at full evolution

[gray jacinth]

but the api is private use

so i cant lmao

[gaunt trench]

With the bone crown and all

[calm walrus]

Either works, I wish they would redesign them but that's unlikely to happen

[sullen flame]

Yo yall remember 250 nighthunter model?

Why didnt they use that

Could be peak ngl

The outpost literally works like a regular app you download btw

I dont think the ever got authorization to put it on any app store

[random solstice]

dam

[stable nymph]

same way for 2 pretty sure and 1, they think of everything lol

[random solstice]

i finished both runs i dont remeber the reward for 1 and 2

[sullen flame]

Yeah its the same for 2

[sullen flame]

Dl2 has a waltz outfit if u do it

And u get 4 outfits from dl1

[random solstice]

oh yeah thats why i didnt remeber it

oh yeah, remember to myself, submit quests only at nighttime to get bonus xp

[sullen flame]

Alpha cuck

[random solstice]

?

[sullen flame]

The volatile

Dudes genuinely a cuck

He sat at my van all night

I love how they js dont give 2 shits abt dl2 supoort anymore🥀

[random solstice]

tbf...dl2 recived 5 years of support and not really has the intrest of most the playerbase anymore

dltb is what the comunity focuses on

and needs more support, dl2 cant recive more updates

[stable nymph]

2s event is probably today last year was the 11th and 2023 was the 19th I guess nightmare and the challenge is why it was held off

[sullen flame]

I deadass havent touched dl2 since I got the beast

Irony go back in for events or limited edition stuff

[random solstice]

2 is fun, dltb is just...better

it has the better fighting system, all the good stuff from dl2 but more refined

and it doesnt have that godforsaken ANNOYING ASSS bounty system

i despised the agents

[sullen flame]

Dl2 winter tales is supposed to drop between 16th to January 6th

[random solstice]

i despise how you get guns (and how you use it)

[random solstice]

hope we getting a dltb winter tales event

[sullen flame]

We arent

Not on the road map

[tender blaze]

The nightmare mode update was almost absolutely perfect

[sullen flame]

The design is meh

I like the orange and black give me dl1 loading screen vibes

With the white to🤤

[tender blaze]

I really wish they added Dying Light 2's stamina system to Nightmare mode because they didn't add it yet to the parkour difficulty slider.

I really want & miss that old stamina system, I hate how this new system was just catered to the stubborn fans of the first game

I really liked the extra difficulty challenge & the hint of added realism

[calm walrus]

Kek

Speaking of which does the Alpha Volatile have Volatile Tyrant animations like Wraith does? Have not survived long enough with him around to see if he does

[untold goblet]

Alpha volatiles only appear in nightmare difficulty correct?

[stable nymph]

I didn't mind the stamina when climbing but it should be toggled IMO I was surprised DL2 didn't do that but hey 1 did shape a lot of things that were better that they should've just stuck to while adding new stuff ontop instead of just doing mostly new lol

[stable nymph]

once a night so either kill him or safehouse and then leave just to deal with him stalking you all night lol

[tender blaze]

Yes exactly, There's a toggle setting that makes it so Kyle is extremely heavy why can't we also give him parkour stamina??

[sullen flame]

Ni

No

[calm walrus]

That's really lame

[brittle anchor]

Bc the system was fucking ass be glad it’s gone

[tender blaze]

Are volatile tyrants even in dltb??

[calm walrus]

No, I was talking about their animations

[tender blaze]

I wish they were added in for reaching a lvl 4 chase

[calm walrus]

Wraith has improved Volatile Tyrant attack animations, so I was wondering if the Alpha Volatile did as well, which sadly I guess not

[tender blaze]

Or as a new encounter

[tender blaze]

It was one of my favorite features of DL2 & one of the only reasons I have 1k hours in that game. I believe everyone should have a right to their opinion. I never said to force it back in. Literally only a toggable setting.

[brittle anchor]

Skill issue🙏🙏🙏

[tender blaze]

My main favorite feature of DL2 was the dynamic parkour music

[sullen flame]

What's yalls thought on bo7

[tender blaze]

Yes exactly, thank you for admitting you have a skill issue

I'm glad we came to an understanding and we can move on

[brittle anchor]

Anytime my love

[brittle anchor]

Poop from a butt and shit from an ass

[sullen flame]

Have you played it

[tender blaze]

Agreed

I played it & was not a fan at all

[sullen flame]

I think its decent at best tbh

[tender blaze]

The first game I ever refunded

[brittle anchor]

No but there hasn’t been a solid cod entry for a decade so there’s no reason to expect this one to be good

[sullen flame]

Bo7 isnt that bad like what people say it is

Like I've actually had a bit of fun on it

[tender blaze]

I play cod for the campaign, this new campaign was straight garbage

[sullen flame]

I agree with that

Campaign is straight shit

I enjoy multiplayer and zombies

[tender blaze]

I've never been this disappointed in a cod game since vanguard

[sullen flame]

Its the best zombies we've had since bo3

Hate to say it

[rich bobcat]

Meh, 6-7

[sullen flame]

Multiplayer is still meh

[sullen flame]

Genuinely is

If people are gonna complain abt it not being realistic causes it looks like its in soace

Space*

Look at other cod bro😭🙏

Genuinely zombies is amazing most fun I've had since bo3 and cold wars

Bo7 ruined warzone

[tender blaze]

That's expected honestly with that company atp

[sullen flame]

Bo6 warzone was actually really good

I had alot of fun with friends

[sullen flame]

You know who owns cod now right

[gray jacinth]

is the pilgrim outpost not on iOS

[gray jacinth]

Microsoft lmao

or should i say

MicroTRANSACTIONsoft

[sullen flame]

Exactly

The bo7 dev team is s bunch of pride supporting Trans women

[gray jacinth]

even before that they did micro transactions

[gray jacinth]

there’s nothing wrong with that tho no?

[sullen flame]

Ik

Was about to say that

[gray jacinth]

but i mean the game is just soft now

[sullen flame]

But that's the problem its women that ruined it

[gray jacinth]

not about war anymore like it was originally

[sullen flame]

Bo6 wa great imo

It could of been perfect

[gray jacinth]

the fanbase kinda ruined it too quite a lot asking for free dlc’s

they got what they wanted lmao

[sullen flame]

No its microsoft

They dont listen to the community

BTW expect a new every year

A new cod*

[gray jacinth]

dawg they did that before. you realize there are more than one studio working on cod

[trim sable]

The hotfix that fixes the XP bug did not download on my PS5. Why is that?

[gray jacinth]

lets go to off topic

[sullen flame]

Pretty sure they dropped some of them

[gray jacinth]

wym

[trim sable]

?

[gray jacinth]

like what happened

it should have lmao

did you update your game

[acoustic vigil]

when did the hotfix come out

[untold goblet]

I jumped on the game for the first time since the update came out today a few hours ago , updated and didnt have an issue with the exp(ps5 aswell)

[gray jacinth]

you can look in the logs if you arent sure

[trim sable]

Where i can look?

[gray jacinth]

look at their website. or look on your game. you’re on ps right?

press the menu button on your game and go to update history

[untold goblet]

It was an hotfix it shouldve automatically applied after restarting the game

[gray jacinth]

itll show recent patches and hot fixes there

[trim sable]

It Is not possible on PS5

[gray jacinth]

the fuck you mean its not possible 😭

what ps5 you playing on😭

[acoustic vigil]

potatostation 5

[gray jacinth]

bro playing on the psp

[acoustic vigil]

dying light on psp would be sick tho no lie

[trim sable]

How can I watch it on PS5?

[gray jacinth]

brother what

i just told you

[gray jacinth]

i played it on the switch and its amazing

[acoustic vigil]

woahh it’s on switch?? wtf is it cross progression

[cunning abyss]

Guys i need some info

[gray jacinth]

nope lol

[acoustic vigil]

ripp

[gray jacinth]

but i had DL1 on the switch

[trim sable]

I see version 1.005.001

[gray jacinth]

i may have data

[cunning abyss]

I have a save on brutal which is newgame+ and if i switch to nightmare will i get that stuff

[sullen flame]

Yes

[gray jacinth]

did you pirate it or sum😭

[sullen flame]

No

[cunning abyss]

So i have to completely restart?

[scenic pier]

start from 0 bruv

[sullen flame]

Or finish the game

[gray jacinth]

bro playing fading light the feast

[cunning abyss]

No newgame+?

[acoustic vigil]

you can’t switch difficulties

[sullen flame]

Yes ng+

You cant switch difficulty mid game

[cunning abyss]

Exclusive rewards

[acoustic vigil]

exclusive rewards

[cunning abyss]

Let me put in more detail

[acoustic vigil]

in order to get the exclusive rewards given for completing nightmare mode you can’t just switch an old save to nightmare and you can’t switch difficulties mid playthrough

[cunning abyss]

It says "exclusive rewards can be obtained by playing without ever switching to any other difficulty" but does ng+ make it so i get the exclusives

[gray jacinth]

ng+ restarts your game progress, keeps your inventory, you keep your shit. but no exclusive shit

[cunning abyss]

Ah thank you

Well im making a new save then

[muted finch]

you get the Nightmare rewards as long as you have it on from the beginning of a playthrough. It can be a new NG+ run or a fresh save

[acoustic vigil]

so wait you can’t new game plus and get the rewards? you gotta be level 1

[cunning abyss]

Am i gonna feel how a random survivor felt

[muted finch]

I was on NG+3 when the update dropped, finished up the last few missions and started NG+4 and switched on Nightmare mode. I've been getting the Nightmare rewards.

[cunning abyss]

Ng3?

You can keep going?

[scenic pier]

yes

[cunning abyss]

What happens?

[scenic pier]

and gets harder until 11 iirc

[gray jacinth]

oh im maxed.

[acoustic vigil]

okay dope

[gray jacinth]

i mean like just for completions for ng+

[cunning abyss]

I want to feel pain so im restartobg and ng+ until 11

On nightmare

[scenic pier]

🔥

[gray jacinth]

nightmare dont hit like it used to 🙁

[scenic pier]

im on ng8 and lv300 feels like level 1

[cunning abyss]

What would 11 feel like

[muted finch]

You get a hat that has the number of NG+ you've completed and gives 5% bonus XP. After the 10th one you get one with the beaver embroidered on it. NG+11 and onward you don't get anything but can keep going. NG+11 is when all of the world zones reach max Legend Level of 300

Each NG+ run, enemy difficulty scales harder. However, as of this newest update that added Nightmare Mode, if your Legend Level has outpaced NG+, enemies will scale even higher to match your Legend Level.

[cunning abyss]

Im starting from 0 on niggtmare and not changing and i WILL reaxh 11

[scenic pier]

crazy that im playing with a level 129 friend and he takes 34 revolver headshots for a normal zombie

[cunning abyss]

What...

What ng+ is he on