#š¬ļø±the-beast
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i mean you get bit in your neck or shoulder, i probably SHOULD fuck you up big time
default skill
yup
Breh why is it a default skill and not even explained T^T
I thought they just got rid of it T^T
there's a menu for it. go to the skill menu and look to your bottom left
u can see it for a second when they grab you
u have the first square of default skills in upgrade tree(middle one)
Ah
W dev communication about the biters
I just use a 2 hand weapon charge attack and done lmfao
Why do I get shocked by my melee weapons when I don't have any electrical mods applied?
Its what i do now lol
Yea 99% it's a one hit kill lol
And plus it doesnt help with the fucking biters that hide around corners sometimes that immediately grab >.>
Sup bills mafia
@coral forge probably a zombie wearing a shock vest
is there any content btw, after campaign and additional quests(maybe some kind of newgame+)
Hru
They got shock vests? I never knew that š«
I died once because I jumped so bad I slipped and fell to my death..
if you already finished all side quests transformer stations and safe zones no but you can loot
Try relading the game or join somone with it done
From the zombies that sit around corners?! Rofl!
I noticed it when i wasnt modding my weapons.. if you close at the chest they got batteries and wires@coral forge
Yeah lmfao
i did(allat in 12 hours, i thought there was more)
peak biter grapple changes so it will still be a threat but less annoying š
u can haunt easter eggs
i mean we have drift quests that its not rly that intresting
drift quests? you mean races?
yes
Brooo i hate those fuckers so much. They make me jump and they take a chunk or two outta my health bar. Its like a double whammy
also I cant believe some people are trying to suggest that DL1 grapple is how the grapple hook should have been in this game LOL
Players legit just cooked by nostalgia and not realizing that one tool took away ALL the fear of volatiles from the first game 
u get achievement for ALL races on gold(not doing allat)
i think theyre pretty good but hard to do it gold at the same time
u actually kind of get it after upgrading hook(also in zombie form its even better)
i got it lol
only in beast mode right? which is fine
Nice they're fixing the constant grabbing
DL1 grappling hook was legit just garys mod flying around lol
nah, in normal mode u can spam hook key 3 times and u get pulled almost like in dl1 (on epic upgrade)
I agree with you here. As fun as the old DL1 grapple was but lets be honest. The base version sucked ass. It was the upgraded version that erased my fears of anything in that game.
Turned off my brain whenever I used it lmao
Lmfao right
needs tweaks, needs smooth baby
OH OK on epic upgrade thats "OK" but still alot of DL1 glazers really just ignore the grappling hook when talking about "fear or scary" lol
hook is lowkey the best, movement with dl2-dl3 hook is just INSANE
casual crys? thatd be you lol
Banned for Prop Surfing

i saw a clip of guy just doing parkour session with jumping off walls
and using hook obviously
I hope tho with the devs actually listening to feedback which they (for better or worse looking at you DL2 stamina change)
man they gave us 8 football balls one of them at the penalty point and they didnt add football easter egg again
sad
I am so glad they got rid of the climbing stam. I didnt mind it during the late game but in the early game it was a bitch.
I just hope they look at the truck a little bit or gives us some idea of what the future of the series holds like are we getting DLC for this game? or another game outright? I know thats really early but im just anxious as to what theyre gonna do for this game currently so i dont get my hopes up
even late game i could deal without the gameplay meter
nah the stamina system was designed for a reason and now you have literal gear that reduced parkour stamina being completely useless for players that dont even play anymore 
Anyone else not able to find the keycards for the armoured trucks?
Naw see fuck the DL1 grapple. Gimmie my damn The Following buggy back! I miss that zippy fucker.
troop zombies carry them
loot armored zombies
DL1 hook is slop compared to DL2 hook
They're definitely doing another game, Tymon said as much before the Beast released. The actual question is what type of support this game is gonna get since it's a spin off but not a spin off, etc. They still owe us 2 years of post launch support for DL2, do they have the bandwidth to add meaningful content to two concurrent games while also working on a new one?
I was hella enjoying using my gear loadouts for parkour specific areas and challenges now I just trashed em and switched to full melee and dmg mitigation gear š
One update completely cooked my interest and the one thing that DL2 needed was an actual update that fixed the end game
Yes, correct opinion. Grappling hook in DL1 completely invalidates the parkour in the zombie parkour game, but the DL2 hook complements it and adds to the system overall
DL1 hook is so ahh
I've searched the entire area n its no where to be seenš¤·
that 2 year support better be them fixing that godawful epilogue and allowing players to unflood the city + reworking the viral bombers 
after a while zombies dissappears and they drop loot bags
It was good for its time. I meanā¦sometimes we had to compete against a nighthunter in mobility xD
That grapple was a fkn straight zipline nglš
I have even more hopium in my pipe; I want them to port the beast mode back into DL2 so we can use Aidens Fury after we unlock it in the story which was originally the entire point of the Beast before it became standalone lol
Glad the grabs are being dealt with they're just obnoxious when it seems to be all that biters do
It was lmfao
THIS 100%
its called ng+ and not opening the dam
Far cry already had a real grappling hook at the time
Hi, can someone help me with Silos and the box bug? I need some1 to break it for me.
batman type grappling hook
Wait this is peak
It was necessary against the Nighthunter but beyond that it just completely cuts out the parkour system because you just zip to the top of buildings instead of ever needing to climb again. It also makes Volatiles a completely non-issue.
Yeah but that only worked for certain points on the mapā¦ill give them credit for the realism though.
It was an absolute necessity against an Apex Nighthunter.
I have a mod on PC where you can use it by activating an item; the stuff for it is all there actually. Since the engine is the same it would actually be really easy to do for them, the only parts missing are the meter and the ability to fill it up with damage
not gonna replay to open one section of the map that should have had a past epilogue quest or actually be something you could do earlier in the game, THE FACT you dont talk or interact with the butcher in ANYWAY during the story until the last bit screamed rushed development which is sad but understandable but I would Techalnd would rectify comeback and fix it cause its actually a dope game, gameplay wise but story? that shit is so ass as soon as you help the peackeepers defend that small island in central it falls apart like peanut brittle
I'd put even more hours into DL2 if they did this
what is the best loot area for feathers?
Broo i would deadass return to DL2 for this was well. Can you imagine how fun it would be running around the central loop at night with the rage lol
I wish techland put more love into DL2 but they're getting ready to support the beast now šš
they are still updating dl1....
grab your friends

the biters took that to heart
nothing major apart from that retouched update
Grab your friends [with consent]
Another thing that would be neat would be when you die to like a grabbed zombie instead of just dying immediately it'll play an animation of them eating you
Or at least that's all I can think of š¤·I don't care for DL1
thats still a big update and support for the game
The problem with the DL2 story for me is this: The Waltz/GRE/Mia storyline is actually pretty decent but the way its dispersed throughout the main quest is so patchy that by the time you get new information or follow up you've already forgotten what the fuck is happening. Took me three playthroughs before I was like "oh yeah, I understand this now." Meanwhile the faction storylines are the ones that suffered the most from Chris Avellone being fired so there's a bunch of shit that's just missing or not properly shown to the player. I'll never forget my first playthrough I sided with the PK's because all throughout the game they're actually reasonable decent people...then once you're fully locked in with them at the ass end of the game Jack Matt becomes a piece of shit out of nowhere AND THEN you get that ending cutscene that's like "SURPRISE those guys you work with are hanging people over water now GG NERD"
xxxsassy pants 78
Waltz felt silly to me idk why
check beast spoilers
Yeah because that game was a big success and is generally more liked than 2
dl2 is still well liked
All 3 games are great games in their own respective ways
Its best if we forget that DL2 ever happened
Yes?
i have had way more fun with dl2 then i had with dl1
Not as much as 1 and you're crazy if you don't think that lol
i have 173 hours in dl1 compared to 347 hours in dl2
I love DL2 but it's a fact
that dosent change that its still a well liked game???
did anyone got apex car or legacy outfit!?
mine still not showing stash
Dl1 was great for it's immersive location, atmosphere and action. Dl2 was great for it's action, parkour, and human enemies. And dltb is great because it takes all those great things and puts em into one thang
nope
I'm just saying it makes sense for DL1 to keep getting updates and not DL2
Thats why DLTB is the best in the franchise easily
hi so why does this game look soo cell shaded like a cartoon?
I'm running ultra settings on everything btw
DL2 has higher aggregate user scores than DL1 does. I think if you exclude this games corny ass Reddit community and the absolutely slop-tier YouTubers like Oni and BestGamerAli that just churn out negativity bias farm content because they want Kyles meat in their mouths, actual normal people that aren't terminally online like DL2 a lot
Yeah I said that with reddit and the YouTubers in mind lmao
personally i liked dl2 more then dl1
yes
is there a place to report bugs
is that so
unfortunately the beast is a reskin of dying light 2
Well no
Crazy statement
i enjoyed DL2 years ago, is it better now? like worth purchasing again on PC?
Like, a normal and well adjusted person isn't going to make a 5 minute long essay video about how "Techland hates their community" because the sun doesn't dynamically move through the sky in DL2 LMAO. Like what is that shit?
steam overlay shows me 9gb/7.8gb vram to me and my fps drops from 144 to 72 or 60 lol
High graphics textures is prob the issue
nah I'm talking about the graphics itself it looks weird
DL2 is the best it's ever been, Techland has put tons of effort into that game over the last three years
its way better then it was
hmm i never finished it i may pick up up again
well, it was crap then so how much better could it be lol
that and its funny how the rewards for changing the city? I understand some of them but aint no way am I skipping out the cool parkour opportunities for a turret and crossbow? LOL
but to better talk about the story, its not that hard but around the part where everyone is questioning why the butchers men are being so blatant should have caused aiden to meet with him not during the epilogue but after you establish the radio tower making him trust you a bit and revealing that waltz has been taking his men turning them into those renegades you see in the city then to further give you more room to play with there would be a reason to unflood the city in a "safe" manner so butcher could expand his territory but giving you access to supplies for everyone so you could also choose butcher/ survivors or PKs
I like DL2 alot honestly and central loop is easily the best map ive seen in an open world game especially how well it compliments the parkour aspects
it wasnt that crap it was just not like dl1 dl2 made for larger audience
There is a bug with the ultra textures being vram hungry
i just gave everything to the pk because i found the trampolines to be really useless
for me the beast looks graphically worst than dying light 1 even at ultra settings
same with the ziplines too tbh
Is the beast better than the second one? More like the first one? Cause I didnāt really care for dl2
No way, at max survivor alignment the extra parkour structures are insanely useful in downtown
pls put all the endgame of dl2 also in the beast
it tries to be like the first game and fails
I always had trouble finding the PK stuff on the map but I still gave them everything
Especially the survivor respawn that keeps your legend points if you die, so helpful
Is it atleast better than dl2 š
i almost never died so wasnt very usefull for me
I missed this oneee
definitely
depends who you ask
I'm gonna stop giving the PK shit
All my saves are NG+ Nightmare so if I make one mistake during a chase I'm insta-killed
It's better than dl1 but not 2 since it has much more content
Among other things for me
Askin for anyoneās opinion. I liked the first one, but got bored pretty quick with dl2 tbh
dying light 1 is the best in the series stop the cap
Sure Jan
because it was easier
LEHMAO
my name is karl Marx
DL1 is outdated let it go
The Beast is good but it still feels very much like it's just The Following for DL2. I don't view them as entirely separate games really, just flips on the same formula. They sit in the same bucket in my mind if that makes sense? Especially since they play so similarly. DL2 and The Beast have way more in common than either games have with the 1st one by a long shot.
it's really not
DL1 glaze is crazy honestly the games great but you really gonna act like the fact you have to craft a fucking shield to block bullets or how terrible the gunplay was and tell me straight to my face the game was the "best in the series"?
i had way more fun in dl2 then in dl1 the only thing i feel dl1 did better then dl2 was how the zombies behave with the enviroment like how they fall of rooftop or stumble or gather below you when up high
exactly it looks like a dlc for 2
not a different game at all
Nostalgia and echo chambers are incredibly powerful
I know for a fact you didnt play anything higher than normal to think DL1 is amazing
That's a finish. Guys, you have problem with FPS, drops, poor netcode on coop, don't have RT (Nvidia's promotional video has it). People with not poor PC have problems when engine sounds not playing, fps dropping to 30 (when in normal it 120+).
But we should record a video about grabbing)))
i played nightmare on all three games and the first is the best
when rais's men have infinite ammo and you have a shield that has finite health lol
every dying light has trash gunplay
The beast is great on controller for guns they actually put deadzones in the game lol
My problem with DL1 glaze is the things they bring up when they do it. Zombies watching the sunset, the sun dynamically moving, flashlight shadows? That shit is all completely irrelevant when you're actually playing the game, but maybe I'm just not autistic enough to stare at the sun in games lmao
why do they need to slow our sensitivity down 3 times just because we're aiming down sights
Tbh ya if you play dying light for the gun play you gonna be disappointed. Zombie games for some reason never really get it right in my opinion š
Yo what if we were able to also take guel from pickups
are we gettijg ng+ soon?
I think DLTB nailed the gunplay right
but nah "DL1 better" brother I honestly just rather play the following instead 
Let it go
no guns shoot for a maximum of 50 metersš
or people talk about atmosphere or physics
The following carries DL1 a LOT
Wdym I always get long distance kills with most of the guns
Imma try it out I think. I always thought it was just a DLC for dl2, I didnāt realize they changed it to a standalone game which I why Iām here asking about it lol
for me the pistol stops working after 50 meters
dl1 did do zombie physics A LOT better then dl2 with how they stumbled on small ledges and fell down rooftops and stuff like that which dltb also does so
Hmm. I think the gunplay in DL2 and the Beast feel pretty good. It's not top-tier gunplay of course, but they're better than DL1 by a longshot. The closest comparison for me is Dead Island 2 and I think DL shooting feels better overall but it's hard to tell
For me, I think this is the best game i've played in a long while
I'd rather not have any guns but they added revolvers so š
Yeah but they updated those physics after launch in DL2. A Biter walked right off a roof towards me in DL2 yesterday
i do think pistols felt better to use in dl1 because they could 1 shot the normal zombies
Yeah you gotta get the marksman rifle, or rifles
Dying light 2 is better than dying light 1 and the beast is better than dying light 1 and dying light 2 imo
Itās the nostalgia that makes it so great for people, I think the beast is the best in the series but I still love the original
ive have hours on DL1 xbone release days and DL2 PC and can easily tell you thats its a best of both worlds, Its not perfect but you will defintely get that same first start feeling and keep at it
I still think 2 is the best because I really like the parkour
its still a lot worse then in dl1. they dont really stumble on small ledges and a viral pounched me and they hit an invicible wall instead of falling of the roof
Yeah the parkour is great
have you even played the nonsensical story of dying light 2?
the girl says the large man is like her brother then you kill him and she doesn't even care
Facts. That's why so many people are saying The Beast is the "true sequel" to the original. Cause it has Kyle and farmland therefore it's the Following 2 to them lol
dont get me wrong, I dont hate DL1. I still have all 3 games downloaded
but Im also not gonna ignore the obvious issues with past games like you gonna tell me the game with no actual block button is better than DL2 gameplay? or beast? LEHMAO
Iāll be getting it on my Xbox because I like games like this on the big screen w surround sound and my couch š¤£
Especially when there are snipers shooting at you across the rooftops you really need to think what you need to carry, I always carry a marksman rifle, and a GL, with 2 melee weapons
Whoās the large man
The ending was fucking amazing
aiden went thru all of that trouble just for mia to croak in a hour š
Thank God they fixed biters
Oh nvm
some character that dies and nobody even acknowledges his death
Is it Herman
You talking about Sophie and Herman? She does NOT say he's like her brother, she just says he helps her out a lot. She has an actual brother too lol.
yes i think so he's large and deaf
What to do when spotted by volatile in forest? Run or just die?
Dude doesn't know what he's talking about
but when he dies she doesn't even react to it
nah nah TB and DL2 are better in pretty much every aspect and itās undeniable pretty much, the only thing DL1 has over the recent games is the nostalgia and maybe the story (which is subjective)
feed it peanut butter and itll leave you alone
someone didnt pay attention to the story 
do UV light does damage or is it purely staggering?
man goes to city, gets involved with war, war is extremely boring, find sister, she dies anyways, leave.
He doesnt die heās just knocked out
You don't kill Hermann
Is the beast atleast somewhat scary, dl2 didnāt really have that āim scared shitless to go in thereā feeling to me
ehh DL2 is actually not bad up until you get to the epilogue and it slaps you in the face with "rushed development" š if they would actually go back and rework the story parts to better make sense. Dude easily the best story
i never saw him again though
herman literally walks up covered in blood after you "kill" him in the same part lol
U see him when ur locked in the cage
ng+ when?
Well why would you
and zombie behaviour
Oh yeah that part was bad
Never š (jk)
the ending is so sudden, just when it starts to get interesting it starts the ending
Sounds like dead island 2 š¤£
I loved DL1 ragdoll physics ngl, Old Town is still my fav map out of the 3 games
Hated that game, only good thing about it were the graphics and gore
He's in the cutscene right after you beat him, he walks in the room Sophie and her brother are in. It's the same conversation where they realize you're not the rat
also how they stumble on small ledges
If DL2 would get a rework on the story + beast mode for aiden ā¤ļøāš„
Unfortunately
it wouldm be easier to just make a new game
i got hit with the nazi ending for some reason and i was like that's it? šš„
Just beat the game and gotta say its peak
spoil
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just hope dl3 is an actual finished version of DL2 with everything great about the franchise packed in a single package with new features
swear to God he's not there in my game
I'm not trying to harp on you or anything, but this is the thing I noticed about a lot of criticism of DL2 story. Many people very obviously just...didn't pay attention to what the fuck was going on lmao. I swear everyone just smashes through dialogue or doesn't read
in dl2 i know the survivors is the "best ending" but i feel like long term the peacekeepers is what would be able to keep the city actually safe. i dont see the survivors actually keeping the streets clear from infected and doing stuff like that
Srry
Please stay ontopic and for Dl2 move into #š¬ļø±dying-light-2
guys huge spoiler, the protagonist is a man š¤Æ
crex whens our fist fight bro
i want another city with proper map creation instead of AI, i love to run around in DL2 but it doesnt feel very natural, the city layout
Cap, itās a woman
Ai?
Thats why I like this map, you can tell its handcrafted and good.
Thatās what I really didnāt like about 2 and why I got bored lol hated the map
procedural generation i menat
Anyone know how to fix the bug where I just dont get the beast points from the last four bosses
the parkour and gameplay had me entertained but the city could be better
Also they nailed the graphics its not vibrant and it feels gritty
for me the beast graphics looks cell shaded
i miss the sheer playground DL2 offered, you could go everywhere by running around or paragliding, cars are cool and all but the parkour is the best part of the series
exactly that I paid attention and thats what I was so critical but gameplay wise? I legit had almost zero complaints I just wanted more finishers and them to remove that stupid eye gouge move š
I wanted more knuckledusters that were actually good
It kinda has that feeling but it doesn't I think its a good mix where it kinda feels like a comic but doesn't at the same time with a good art-style
knuckledusters in the beast tho 
also the soundtrack of the beast fucking slaps
Mood 06 š„
is there chance to have night time during last mission?
Hey do you guys think the docket code weapons will ever get a bluepirnt?
You automatically get a blueprint when you claim them
That's why I kinda wish The Beast stayed as DLC for DL2 so I could have the Castor Woods map and the Central Loop map in the same game and go back and forth š
I wish they weren't limited to one mod slot
@idle timber the docket weapons? I never received a blueprint for them
If this means can it be night time during the last supper then yea my friend got nighttime during the mission
Did you put them in your inventory? I got a blueprint for them
||The bossfighht is daytime only i think||
@idle timber yeah, I did
the beast was neccesary for techland to get some brownie points with the community and to attract a bigger fanbase than the DLC would ever have
I know
Thats weird then
It was a good decision for them to do standalone.
A shame this corny community bullied one of the last good-faith dev teams around into something like that lol
@idle timber are they limited weapons? Or are they weapons that are already in the game?
Wait i'm stupid, i got it confused with pre-order stuff. I'm not too sure if there's a blueprint for docket codes.
wanna know what change is peak tho with the beast that no ones talking about? the fact snacks/drinks are consumables you can carry
True, thats a good feature that should've been in both games.
DL2 didnt even have snacks for 2 years after release
@idle timber bro
I forgot about that.
You scared me lol
My bad, my mistake.
Did u get a blueprint for the docket codes
Yeah
if you claim a weapon docket like the burning axe you just get the weapon in stash, after taking it out of stash you get the blueprint also
Don't make the mistake I made once, I fuckin dismantled shit never got a BP
Is outpost fixed
BP?
hey could anyone help me on this mission I'm a little stuck. I keep on dying, I'm on ps5 and this is my first playthrough of the game.
I'm talking about the 19 codes they release during the pre release of dltb
BP- blue print
its just normal weapons, with no blueprint
if its the techland docket logo its just normal weapons
@void thicket are they limited loot pool? Or are they limited weapons in the game that already exist?
if it has a graphic it has a BP
already exist
Limited weapon can't get a BP for it and it's not in game ( dockets)
So once you use it it's done
Friendly reminder the only reason DL1 Volatiles are the scariest is because of their eyes
Technically it is a limited rare weapon, because once you redeem it, there's no weapons in the game like them
I've got the best weapon in the game won't say what it is but man it's soooo expensive to make !
the model is of the ingame wepons, only thing that changes is that they have the text "limited" next to them
Lmao
@void thicket ok
No, they are meant to be starter weapons at the beginning of the game, as they explained in the trailer.
Finished dltb story the canon way, alone
@strong pier ok
if you want to see what you get go on yt and search on there
@strong pier good to know, I just hope they don't get blueprints
Canon way?
Did they remove polearms or something? Iām 30 hours in and havenāt seen a single one.
there is one its called ishmael and its a legendary weapon
atleast from what i saw
I really hope they fix the performance issues they created with this upcoming patch
Im not getting any performance issues on pc
i havent had any performance issues?
Bro probs playing on a potato
so is the 3rd game better than both of the games
it is for me
what ive heard from ppl that the story is a bit BS
When it gets more content it'll be better than 2 maybe
I think if we put the following separate from the first game yes but if not I'd still say the first is better so far
It's better than dl1 though so
I didn't like dl2 tho
wdym by that_
i loved dl2 ngl and dl1
Has anyone encountered a bug after they finished the game, a intense soundtrack plays?
Its honestly personal preference, dying light 1 for urban envirnment, dying light 2 for cityscape, dying light the beast for wilderness
idk ive just heard from some ppl i havent played it im trynna buy it
restarted the game but couldnt break it, also joining with someone also did not worked
well he did fight all those chimeras alone , crane doesnt have 3 clones like in coop
i still liked dl2 more and aiden as a protagonist
You aren't motivated enough
who cares? let people have fun
i need to know 1 thing does aiden show up in the beast?
Play the game
play the game
RAAAGHHH
game the play
ill buy it soon enough
But on a serious note I haven't seen a fix for this other than sleeping šhope it gets fixed soon
check dms
@gentle abyss why you spoiling it for him bruh
The story of the beast?
Even tho he asked just look it up
You just spoiled him by saying that what?? how do you know i even sent him a spoiler in the first place lmao
@gentle abyss I can read your mind
chill guys he didnt even spoil it
Lmfaooo
he has way more potential than Crane imo, yes Crane is awesome but he is kinda simple he does what is right and is generally a good guy. While Aiden can be a bit of an asshole, he can be rash impulsive and selfish. He also grew up in a messed up worl unlike Crane who had normal upbringing. He is also Aidenbabaiden
aiden babaiden!
@cursive mountain man I couldn't tell the difference between them at all
the voice actor have very simillar tones
???
The voice actor of aiden himself says that he tries to sound like crane
yup he is a fan of Roger
@cursive mountain shhhhh
he is also bi, but that info comes from reddit so im not sure
wut first time hearing that
I mean it's reddit so i dont really believe it but maybe
some guy was adament about it
Man you can't trust reddit
id say so
unless you have a very specific tech issue
what was the info that lead to that kind of speculation
I mean if u search up "Is Jonah Scott bi" it shows a page on X of him admitting it but who cares? if people get affected by that theyre losers
@void thicket no not that either pc help is full of trolls
he seems like a cool guy so its whatever
Yeah exactly
What are y'all talking about
can i use my stash in different save
About someone on reddit saying that Jonah Scott is bi
Always the Burger King
@void thicket oh you were saying the voice actor I was like when did we ever hear aiden was bi lmao
what's this even mean bro
I'm in the wrong chat
someone have a mod for infinite ammo?
I knew Aiden is bi but not Jonah
@hoary terrace chat wtf
no go sarch convoys
It's called get good
It means I don't reach what chat I'm in lol
im confused
@candid bay huh aiden is full on lesbian
no hes not, the VA is
I have work and dont wanna run around 24/7
Don't act like this is the weirdest talk you had
@hoary terrace true

I'm pretty sure it was implied he's bi in the dating quest
Hey guys im doing drops on dying light beast, dm me if tou want a drop, Im gonna help people out
jonah is in fact bi
My psn is Chezza_PLaYz
theres a x post that says "FF characters were my bi awakening and im glad to be one"
when are they gonna fix the music bug
Nice
cant even blame him tbf
kool kool
Fan-service is good when done right. Techland have absolutely done it right
Yeah it's heavily implied Aiden is bi
rito should take notes
Wait what's going on here
kyle can get it
Talking about the VA being bisexual and then I remembered Aiden most likely is too
Did Techland leak another romance storyline of Aiden and Crane?
what
Watch the credits for ten seconds and stay on single player
Dm me for free drops, I got medkits, legendary weapons, Resorces, i got a community save on
theyre coming.. pinterest users
Stop advertising here already
No
kill him
OK I'm out
Im helping new players out
how does this work
Dont ask me it just does
I don't even know what I came back to
idk about yal but the alpha volatiles can get it
use here then
ok bro
@lofty dew the grind is part of the fun
can get what?
Cheaters don't understand that
yk what
Lol im not a cheater im here to help
Idk what that exactly means but your name already says enough
@candid bay I don't think he is a cheater
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it did not work it still plays the same music
Is DL2 still the main game? Or is this game gonna get events as well?
@desert lintel we dunno
possible
Go fuck yourself
Techland will announce post-launch plans at some point soon
@wicked juniper you don't know
ik
Yooo thats not nice dude
its standalone but like kind of subnautica bellow zero not exactly a third game but its a new standalone game
That's weird
they updated dl1 for like 10 years so
You're not helping them you're ruining their game
@wicked juniper ik you dk
He definitely cheated to get max everything yes š¤·
no shit? thats y i said possible??
mf just reply instead of pinging
@gentle abyss calm your farm bro
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@wicked juniper @main lava no u
I am asking cause I really enjoyed DL1 and DL2s updates
go harvest my crops
are you like special ed?
brah
same
Anyone know if they will add better support for the stash so like being able to stash away resources and ammo ?
Thats a bit mean bud
Anyhow I'm giving free drops to the people who need it, dm me if Intrested
Apparently that's a bug not being able to stash ammo but I don't see the need for it
not really? im js asking if your mentally slow or not
IShowFarm please show me the quickest way to buy Gucci X Dying Light merch
they don't take up room, why would you need to store them?
Cheater alertttt
I mean Finance
So far this is my favorite at launch Dying Light
No are you
nope
Can we chill
Yeah I also hope DLTB gets some sort of bounty system like Jai missions at some point at least, I donāt expect a full The Following type DLC, but maybe something the size of Bozak Horde
way ahead of you, whiskey in my coffee and icecream š
Look just people don't like being ping randomly and I'm guilty of accidentally replying with that @ sign on replies
I just saw you skip a song 3 times
bet look at thius then
ty for help, set medium graphic settings
Sometimes you gotta skip the song to
U have
505 peak
Oh nice!
Oh that's interesting
go ahead and look again
new game + coming ?
IM GOING BACK TO 505
Oh I did...
i hope so
The point of a survival game is that you shouldn't have too much of everything.
My favorite 90s band is the cranberries
I heard New Game Ć· is coming too
I'm getting my ruler out now
Itās mainly because I donāt like seeing all the different types of ammo in my inventory š š
whispering slurs asmrš
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WHERES MY RULER AT
Lmfaooo
new game * is going to be way better than new game+ and new game /
My favorite 90s band is cranberries fav song is dreams
What's the best way to farm feathers? for crossbow bolts
why does he say it like thatš
Right which is why I'm fine with not being able to stash it
And is the Bow better than the Crossbow
are we going to get RT still
So many dumb questions
there are no dumb questions, just dumb people asking questions š
yall fw type 0 negative?
Not really I felt like the bow and arrow is stronger somehow due to fact you wind up the bow and arrow and you shoot it and it does more damage than the regular amount
Crossbow does more damage but bows can use elemental arrows so you choose for yourself
KAKA
and you can shoot it faster with auto aim
Crossbow just does more damage cause that's the base damage
Bow you just wind it up and it does double damage
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The OST is better than DL1 I feel.
Favorite queen song anyone?
anway back to reading yaoi
Especially in that one late-game mission
The ost is just the best in the series
Mine is BICYCLE
BICYCLE BICYCLE
We should all know less about eachother š
||the cave mission reminded me of Days gone for some reason||
What's wrong scared of liking something?
shhhhhh
Totally yes
(ok I'm baiting out I'm sorry)
I think that should be in #š§ļø±beast-spoilers
Yeah
ima touch you
I'm not clicking that
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Stop being horny for one second
im not horny
Hororny
Hororor har har
Let's move on
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Volatile constipation
Good topic good topic
Where do I find some shaft mods?
volatiles can get it
just do out posts or safe houses
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When you discover an activity just hover over it on the map and see the rewards
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Keep on topic.
Shut up
nein
Goodness
is this normal that im lvl 4 and doing dark zones all over the map? and not following main quest?
yea
I did that too
Level 3 though
knighthood31?
lmao i js keep exploring bc my game looked like a slide show so i gotta upgrade
Do you think you're supposed to ignore them?
is outpost fixed yet?
idk prob
Can i still get twich drops?
prob
When did the twitch drops end
Ye
Idk
I got the legacy outfit, how do I redeem the castor woods welcome pack?
it doesnt let me, it says make an account when I already have
urhh
Its bugged you gotta wait
no welcome pack for you
unfortunate, what does it give?
HAHAHAHA thatās SO funny Susan ššš
That's a real knee slapper
Yea you gotta be kitten me
die
Can i still get twich drops
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Check yourself
Im not sure bro
we need ray tracing and RTX asap plzzz
what type of monitors or tvs are you playing on
A laptop
How's dx11 performance compared to 12? My game runs pretty okay. I tend to range from 60fps in some places, and 40fps in hefty spots, on dx12. I'll probs test it myself, was curious if dx11 is even worth looking into
No streamer has it enabled, so probably not.
Isn't dx11 usually ass
why did my friend disconected in the tunnel mission at the start of the game?
Is there any reason to play on nightmare besides for difficulty?
Like in DL1 you got an outfit for beating the game on nightmare. Is there something similar?
I always heard it gave you more performance with the price of making the game look worse. Which I'm always fine with, I always turn my games as low as I can to get as many frames as I possibly can
My performance isn't bad at all, but if I can get more frames I gladly will
The beast doesn't have a nightmare mode yet
does the beast have any cool female costars, like jade in dl 1? even though they killed her off
What is the difficulty that is above normal right now?
brutal
Thats not true, dx11 in this game lowers the frames and makes input delay higher by a large margin
i got like -5-7 fps on dx11
Iād love to be a twink; I warned you because you wonāt stop talking in content share. š
i did
thats because he doesnt want you to revela his secret to everone
ikr
Drop kicking feels so weak
Is there any reason to play on Brutal other than difficulty?
More xp
compared to dl2 it definitely has a less powerful kick , could be due to the addition of the charged kick
we need the chicken on the stick back in dying light the beast
I donāt think you get any outfits really so itās mostly just testing your ability I think.
we have the bober stick i'd say thats sufficient
yes listen to the twink
whats a twink
Dude if youāre gonna continue Iāll be happy to time you out for the day
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You get more XP but the cons outweigh the pros. Less resources, lots of XP is lost upon death yada yada. Only play it if you want a challenge and no real rewards for that.
After you beat the game and NG+ can you change difficulty?
Google it, not the place for it here.
We donāt have ng+ yet for Beast.
there's no ng+
Bros taking it a little too seriously. Learn to take a joke.
nah no beavers we need chickens, they showed them justice in dl1 dl2 but why not dltb
i searched google, it led me to google search
ikr
Midnight shoo to general
k
Will the new update still work on my safe I made at launch?
Okay thank u
Lol
Anybody got Greg weapons to trade? I've been refreshing his shop for an hour and only see a legacy and the knuckles. I'll trade some twitch weapons or whatever else you need
im playing peak
Is that a good game?
how do i use the eletric trap in the beast? i got given it but its not in my bag or crafting station
#1414612841536950302 check here
theyre placed around the map
ahhhhhhh ok thx
If anyone wants free ps5 ammo I got stacks of it on the floor for grabs
meow
Dying light the grabbening
@flat rock I did, I messaged a few people but they've either left, have their pm on private or don't reply lol
I kinda like that they grab makes you actually stay above ground
Dying Light: Kyle "MacGuyver" Crane
hey guys
Interesting name
thank you
Aww damn that sucks.
When it rains in-game it's more like Drying Light: The Towel, amirite?
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actually love the weather system in the game, specially since it effects the gameplay
Snow would be awesome, like heavy snow and blizzards.

tornado would be awesome too, flying zombies everywhere
š wth.
That would be beautiful to see, I'd run into the 'nado just to snap pictures of the zombies horrified faces like °ā°
like imagine a boss fight in the tornado, GRE has a nado making machine and you got to fight a chimera by jumping from flying trash to flying trash and random screamers could out of nowhere
I've spawned in a god damn barricaded tower š Can anyone help me?
WHERE IS R A Y T R A C I N G
channel your inner kung fu
What platform?
How do I open co-op lootpacks? it just says Inventory full?
PC
ray tracing when
ray tracing now?
So youāre telling me if I join a friend, I get auto locked out of unlocking trophies because I now have all the safe zones?
still haven't gotten my twitch drops in game, but at least dockets are working š
They wouldnt just force people to enable raytracing
Any word on the deluxe content being available, not the weapons and outfit. The soundtrack and map for xbox
Yo can anyone drop stuff?
yes they would
some games do and I die hard hate all these effect addons that make me wonder if the graphic developers have ever strepped outside and seen real cement
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Any news for the RT patch?
people just want to feel like their mid range PC's are enough to handle anything and get hit hard by the fomo when real top end graphical settings are present
bump
do u only get legacy outfit if u preordered will u be able to get it again ?
can someone on PC help me for 2 seconds? just need to join my game and break a barricade... I've spawned in a barricaded tower and not allowed to use weapons to break out
Im on 5 5090's i can handle itš
People go crazy over raytracing
high range pc here, I just hate graphic effects that either 1) provided nothing useful or 2) make me wonder how blind people are
hilarious part is the average person can't even tell if RT is on or not
SSR artifacts have entered the chat
All I know is I see my reflection
Where you 5 5090's
fr
you should not see your reflection in wood, grass, trees, unpolished granite, bricks, stones, cement, etc, it's utterly rediculous how much RT is done incorrectly to make those reflective
now that ive completed the beast question is replay dl1 or powerwashing simulator
when i see the outline of my weapon occluding reflections, I wonder how blind people are not to realize it
ok depends on the wood ive seen some reflective wooden floors
that's just texture work my guy, which is honestly terrible in this game
RT makes materials 100% worse though and nobody does materials correctly
You should see your reflection in wood wdym
Reminder about spoilers:
Keep story related stuff to #š§ļø±beast-spoilers or you will be timed out.
#1418699248920166592 if you need help finding something.
#1414506546330603520 if you have a glitch or bug.
#1414612841536950302 if you want to coop; donāt ask to dupe or āfarmā as itās against the rules, we will see it, it will be deleted.
and you absolutely should with proper roughness cutoff's
peek lighting was when fast inverse sine root was introduced, everything after has made it worse
Why only RT if we could use Pathtracing
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Now we're talking
yall think the water in the swamp would kill a child born in the 1200
This is why there aren't any baby zombies anymore. Canon swamp lore. Got eaten by hungry Henry and Shrek
i would do the same
The water cant kill him if he died 800 years ago
syfmš
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The screamers grew up into howlers in the second game and they were put in straitjackets by the time The Beast comes along
In Dying Light 3 we will see them in wheelchairs I guess
walker zombies coming to get you
Nah would be racism for disabled ppl 
Any news on the HDR fix for PS5 ?
nah thatd be realism people love lol
dying light 4: Cranes breaks out of an old folks home
How many cranes
Dying Hell 4: Dementia Hell
5 cranes, cause in dl3 we cloned crane
Replay DL1 in DL4 and then ur happy
cranes crane craned crane
Crane now uses a cane as a mobility tool and as a weapon. He also forgets often where the quest items are
LOL
Dr zere refrence
Does anyone know where I can find batteries? Iām trying to craft a blueprint
Dying Light 6, everything was a simulation and you are awake again as Dr. Kyle Crane 29 year old neurologist testing out new cutting edge PTSD therapy programs
Prey Reference
oh crap forgot about Prey but yeah XD same deal
Prey was a fun game
who the hell doesn't design a a hard coded emergency exit in to a simulation program
What is the best weapon in the game currently (melee)
Dying Light 7: Bober the Beaver strikes back
like have they not seen SOA in the future?
Fists and feets
The dildo sides large adult toy id say myself
they ain't joking, firsts and feet
Really?
Wait till level 11 and get legendary weapons from the town hall vendor. There are also legendary guns that you can find tutorials to find on YouTube.
yes really
Why do people ask this in a dying light game š
Hey all, i mind if someone can help me with a question: regarding dark zones, how i know i completed? i clear and on the icon it shows that i collected the item and know the icon shows grey, does that means its cleared?
The best melee through out the whole game is your first and feet
As long as you have a weapon thatās close to your level youāll be fine
probably they didn't play it yet and have yet to see how well fists and feet work in the tutorial lol
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Just focus on weapons that are your current level itās not that big of a deal in this game
Same in Dark Souls lmao
dude I honestly forget to use a weapon sometimes and just straight up punch zombies, weapons don't really seem to make a difference other than effects and range
You punch them? I stare at them and they stare back. My soulless body vs their soulless body
yup, punch, kick, and if I need to instant kill a boss I just punch them in to a spike
punching them with fists is literally fun asf
i fought a goon with my fists today and he got obliterated because of how insanely fast the beast meter fills up lmao
I'm beginning to wonder if my firsts level up with me lol, cause originally they didn't do well and now I just one punch man it
i think they do
in some cases i take down zombies faster than with a weapon lmao
oh you also get better unique insta kill techniques with fist only
hook is effective too and then feet first
yea theres more variants
Dying Light: The Beast, next DLC: Stop using your firsts!!!! We put weapons in the game!!!
not going to say which events, but the you know armoed dudes, don't seem to have damage mitigation to punching them in the face
they dont make ur weapons recoil back anymore
Thank you, one last questions do they reset?
They reset really fast
only the ressources, armor and so on not
they do depends on the weapon
I feel like spreading some chaos, anyone still in school, use your teachers first name, they'll appreciate it š
30 min or so is the respawn timer for items but don't stay near the spawn location
thats just normal where i live
not in the U.S. I assume?
not in the us
U.S., it's a huge disrespect to do it
in germany we call others with the last name
only friends and ppl who offer we use first name and the "Du" and not "Sie (polite)" for "you"
last name - I don't know you or you are in a position of respect
first name - familier with each other
middle name - your mom loves me as a son more than she loves you
full name - run
Where is RT @astral path
Yeah finished DL:TB some days ago without RT... still no RT today 
theres also "your name has been replaced with a curse word" type people, they'll go to jail with you
how to get a convoy access card?
better is if they call you by a other name but they mean you
ok?
kill soldier zombies
oh ok thanks
know what would be kinda cool, take the mob models from minecraft movie and put them in the game
UV bar is a life saver but its so sad that we cant craft it
the nonsense part is we can craft bomb launcher but no uv bars lmao
Iāve constantly used them on accident when I get grabbed, Iād have a mere 3-4 bars rn if I didnāt, so I only have one
feature request, UV Lightsaber
Omg peak
What's the best armor/gear set combo (like merc pants + Parkourist + scavenger)
can i grapple volatiles?
depends on what you do, it's not like dl2 where they drop from zombies
are biter grabs really that bad in tbh?
tbh i kind of like the more bitter grabs
maybe it should be for the brutal difficulty
I prefer just the story gear, the one he wears in the promo stuff
wearing xp gear, cause armor really doesn't make a difference in survival mode

Stats wise because in dl2 there were sets that specialised something like heavy with 2H or brawler with 1H
Fair I just prefer the % bonuses even if they wonāt help much
There are sets like those prolly
Doesn't matter because the % is too low so you're better off wearing the entire set
Noted
Seriously wtf do i do with these co-op lootboxes, cant find any information on them
You open them??????
where to report the bugs ?
Open them
once I'm max level, since we don't have legendary levels yet I'll switch from xp set to scavenger set
How, it says Inventory full and there is no open button>?
Then dismantle shit...
If it says inventory is full then check your inventory šš
hey! no! we do not apply logic in here!
Clearly
Whatās a logos
I have every safe zone in the game and game completion snd all achievments but my safezone achievement does not wanns pop why??
A bug
can please somebody help me with baron
hello twinks
#1414612841536950302 and delete your message
i got stuck in the mission with him and i cannot leave
Bro changed his name
i did
My favorite part in DLTB is when Crane screams and says "Its time to Beast it" and then Beast all over the zombies
(Kidding) Ofcourse he didnt really say it but in my head he did
YEAH
Let the joke marinate š
Try restarting your game should fix it mate
Fr
Anyway too mskr it trigger without either going on steam console and popping it for me or not having too restart game snd get them all again
I only know English
ima beast it to all of you
Well some people in here cant take jokes they'd literally scream spoiler like a few days when i got 10 mins time out for no reason so i had to ruin the joke by adding (just a joke)
Im on a new phone and i type too quickly so new keyboard layout is fucking me haha
Not a soul will think thatās a spoiler š
if you use swiftkey you can save your keyboard layout as you transfer phones
People used to make jokes here but these days snowflakes makes it boring
He's still having a fit over that timeout ššI'm dead
im beasting it all over the screen
Yeah but its different screen size so i don't think that would do any difference?
true
Beasting simulator
it does, you can resize after loading your preference in
Ooh
im beasting it to the thought of you
Bro i said i wanted a movie of DL1 and DL2 where crane was young and i could see the POV of Aiden ..u know when he goes......and rip people apart in DL2 and 2 dudes cried and reported me and said im spoiling
Okay forgot that
yall my dltb wont update
Did infact not know that have not had many phones
Its not safe anymore some People take everything seriously unfortunately
A dl1 movie would be sick
You spoiled DL2 to a techland employee so yeah
many different phones so I just buy the apps to replace default phone apps so I don't have to learn new systems every time there is some upgrade
That is a spoiler for 2 tho
ong we could see crane beasting it
A techland employee no less like yeah NO SHIT lmao
What a moron ššš
Dltb sequel too. I doubt anyone would care about a dl2 movie though
And he kept going it was hilarious šš
dying light 1 spoilers: the light... it is dying... only one man can save the day, Kyle "Duct Tape" Crane!
None of the DL games are movie worthy imo
Shirtless Kyle 
:0
applies duct tape to a 1000 amp circuit, "good nough"
Nah but in this chat DL1 and DL2 has no spoilers u dont get timed out here for "spoiling' DL1 and DL2 their years old nobody ever gets muted for speaking about DL1 and DL2 stories they said i spoiled DLTB talking about Aiden "fury mode" from DL2
The lore would be but thatās it
Is there a mod/setting to make the weather always cloudy or something
no setting, cause weather effects gameplay
I think dl1 absolutely is the others are debatable
No like aside from the day/night cycle
DL1 is basically a cliche action movie
yes, weather effects the gameplay, clouds, rain, sunshine, etc all effect the gameplay
That wasn't even the case it wasn't an employee i didnt spoil anything for an "employee" i literally was timed out for 10 minutes because of two normal players..get ur facts straight yeah ?
Oh okay
Indeed it would
The employee was literally in chat but ok
now will a mod be made to change it? probably, but normal gameplay no
Said employee told you to stop and you kept going so you got what was coming to you š¤·š¤·
I loved the dl1 story
The employee didnt say shit and the mods told me i was timed out because i spoiled the beast not DL2 š¤£š¤£ u try so hard to sound smart when ur not
Either way the employee and mods told you to stop and you didn't so cry about it
hey, you know what, you are all terrible, lets play a nice game of chess š
Literally like a James Bond movie level of action story but honestly not bad
Employee didnt say shit show me the chat where they said Stop talking about DL2 š¤£š¤£ur so delusional in ur own little workd
If you can't accept facts so be it
Im not crying at all š¤£š¤£im explaining as to why i added "just a joke" ur the one crying and making up stories šš
Still spoiled it to an employee
Canāt you just search for a word and it shows all messages with that word, just try finding it yourself
You do NOT need to add ājust a jokeā to a ābeasting itā joke lol
im beasting it
yall know the best map for dlb?
Someone made a mod for day and night cycle to match irl length
Cause im not the one making up stories ? He is making shit up so he must show me where said evidence is since I don't know...are u dumb ?
Right?? That joke has been made ever since the game got announced
You'd be surprised
Literally like whaaaa
For most games it's usually map geine
I would because nobody here is genuinely that dense š
Iām craning it
Lol kiddos getting mad cause i added "just a joke" š¤£š¤£ how old are u guys ?
but i dont have the whole map unlocked and want a way to pin and unpin thinsg
Are you high whenever you come in here
I simply said to let the joke marinate lol
I'm kyling it tbh
Mhm im talking to a dense person now "you"
Maybe that's why you don't remember
not sure if its a glitch or what but you can spawn camp the ammo and weapons in baron's castle
Uhm ok lol
Ts so tuff twin ong fr fr ts pmo āļøš
Much better than craning it
Idk then
Mah I don't remember because you love making stories up about people and add your own stuff so i cant remember because ur full of shit and lies
Well no
Well yes
My favourite moment is when Aiden in dl2 said- it's Caldin time and Calded all over the place
u have "More Rain V2" on nexus (More Rainy / More Stormy / More Foggy / Reduced Clear Skies)
You got timed out so I didn't really lie about anything
I got timed for a different reason than what u said there's a difference
Stop making shit up
The person was literally in the chat telling you to stop idk what more you want
Why would they lie about the reason lol?
Because Jessie is a liar as always
That timeout has him fucked up šš
What's this fuss about
Mental trauma gained from the timeout
I explained why I got timed and I was told by the Mods why I got timed out so u calling the Mods liars?
people just be talkin bro
You donāt even know this person and you didnāt even say the right name šš
He spoiled something to a techland employee or whatever they had the role
Hmm, sometimes it happens, might not be intentionalš
Nah Jessie just loves making stuff im over the time out am I not allowed to defend myself? Should i let Jesse make shit up to make me look bad and I must be quiet ? That time out doesn't even bother me anymore just Jesse with his made uo stories as usual
Of course but he's been fussing over the timeout ever since
- they told him to stop and he kept going so... Self inflicted
Well, I'm no one to judge, I'll leave it to you guysš
The funny part is i didnt spoil anything to a Techland employee ask Heavenly when she is here why I got timed out don't believe this Jesse

I don't think anyone cares that much but you
Jesse is just making stuff up I know why I got timed out and the mods know why I got timed out just ask Heavenly it had nothing to do with an employee
Honestly
I mean it seems you do since u make up a huge story
Itās like one sentence long
Hm
I don't care about the time out either its history just stop making stoies up thats all
I think he cares about it
Are u human
Nah im Alien
Heās beast
Mhm
I say a 50/50
People in this discord get mad that players help other players by giving them resources in a coop non-competitive game. Probably ugly as fuck on real life which is why they take their anger out on here
Uhhhh
Interesting
Well, today I successfully defeated the 8th Chimera on survivor, tbh he was quite painful to fight at first, but the god of war axe works wonders
Its ok to help others ingame thats on u and the people its just u cant talk about that kinda stuff here thats all
Too long
This dude was cheating and asking if they wanted 9999 scraps btw
What kind of rule is that
Lmao
Someone came to my gameā¦.Iām on playstation by the wayā¦..gave me 9999 scraps so now Im gonna go give it to someone else
is survivor hardest difficulty?
Its called helping out
No it's brutal
Mhm right
Cause others work hard for their resources u dping stuff takes away the challenge
Nah, it's the 2nd hardest, hardest is brutal, but the survivor is still pretty challanging in itself