🔧︱dev-tools

[frail scarab]

walkway_profile_2_a.msh

[frail scarab]

is there a way to make dev tools not use 20gb of storage of my C drive while I have it open?

[alpine lynx]

what

Also I didnt see that orange arrow

[frail scarab]

doesn't your dev tools eat into your c drive?

[alpine lynx]

I mean yea because I have it installed on C and projects take space

[frail scarab]

yeah, but I have it installed on a different drive tho

[alpine lynx]

There was some place where modio saves shitload of stuff. Cant remember what it was but @rain hull probably knows

in C drive

[frail scarab]

Colty, halp

[frail scarab]

but thing is, it only takes up while it's open

[alpine lynx]

Oh.. Wtf

[frail scarab]

likely has to do with the temp files just stacking on top of each other

[rain hull]

check if C:\Users\Public\mod.io\3992\mods have something

[frail scarab]

just 3 folders

maps I downloaded

[rain hull]

weird then

[frail scarab]

@alpine lynx I just realized you're using chickens in your heavy rail promotional image, you owe me royalties

[alpine lynx]

[frail scarab]

anyway, how does one make a zone where zombies can spawn and control the density?

[alpine lynx]

Guess I'd just use normal ai_spawner_number. It can spawn up to 64 zeds iirc

[elder ravine]

Will there possibly be the ability to create maps on console? Or will we only be able to play community maps?

[random badger]

#devtools-answers message

[frail scarab]

how did you manage to play dialogue audio in heavy rail

[alpine lynx]

Im hackerman

[frail scarab]

You won't have to pay the royalties if you tell me

[wooden mountain]

Dev tool discussion

[past mesa]

Maybe in the wrong chat..not sure. I would like to get the DevTools runing. Play on Linux. I get a message "ModIO: Could not create folder" error. Anyone got this to work on Linux?

[patent prawn]

Probably file system privileges , can you not run Dev tools as sudo or whatever?

[past mesa]

eesch....maybe.

but maybe better to find out where it is trying to write

[alpine lynx]

On windows mod.io creates this C:\Users\Public\mod.io\
Maybe that the folder Modio cant create on Linux

[frank lake]

is this why i can't actually leave the starting area?

[past mesa]

thanks @alpine lynx . that is a good clue.

[frail scarab]

ayyy, it's our man

[alpine lynx]

chad

[austere lantern]

Is anyone modding this game for parkour mechanics? The update is a complete shitshow and now the parkour is fucking useless. Tryin to find a way to make this game playable again.

[frail scarab]

what is the equivalent to this in dl2 devtools called?

[alpine lynx]

prob loot_tools_box

[frail scarab]

by the fact that they are prop, I'm assuming they don't have loot

[alpine lynx]

ah ok idk whats the container called

they dont work anyway

[frail scarab]

guh?

[alpine lynx]

sync action things not working

switches, containers

[frail scarab]

you lied to me

[alpine lynx]

https://discord.com/channels/289739584546275339/1124686766050377768

[frail scarab]

that makes a lot of sense

[alpine lynx]

cake is a lie

[frail scarab]

techland pls fix

[past canopy]

He is the one never yelling at you, no matter what you do wrong

[frail scarab]

He a chad, wish he was here more often

[hearty swallow]

anybody found the billboard custommove yet?

[plush gazelle]

Hi guys, just joined since I was looking for some info on the dev tools, been wanting to make some new custom maps especially with the new parkour update. I downloaded them and opened up the example map, only to find that the ground has disappeared. When I saw the tutorial vid by Techland, there was ground there.

Just wondering if that's normal, or if it's some kind of bug? Feels like the langoliers have paid it a visit

[alpine lynx]

Its a bug. Terrain turns invisible after every game update.
Open terrain window, unlock and lock all terrain patches and ground should appear again

[wheat horizon]

Validate And Build -> Build -> check Terrain options -> Ok

[alpine lynx]

If terrain textures look weird, press ’Build satellite textures’ in terrain window after locking patches

[alpine lynx]

Oh that works too

[wheat horizon]

Also Quick build works I think, but for some reason Quick build is longer than regular Build

[plush gazelle]

Ah, right! Thanks guys!

[frail scarab]

red alert, dl2 just got an update

[plush gazelle]

Time to rebuild terrains again

[fringe cliff]

Just downloaded the dev mod and nothing is showing in game. It shows the dev mod on the right side but nothing inside of it. Does anyone know what is going on?

[wheat horizon]

Watch official tutorials

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmDdqGmYDEY&list=PLSjLjgn6LsguLRhmCKNvZLmus8VDm62Y7&index=2

[plush gazelle]

Been going through the editor, it's honestly pretty cool, and I never realised the prefab items were actually groups of items until I watched the tutorial, that's really cool how you can take from the groups, or add or remove what you want.

On a side note, does anyone know the editor name for the huge walls surrounding villador?

[wheat horizon]

there is something like hw_wall, but I'm not sure if this is it

you need to search with key words and scroll models

[frail scarab]

is there a mesh like this in dl2 dev tools? A solid wall that is not just 1 sided

[wheat horizon]

did you try looking for "fence" or something like that?

[frail scarab]

I have, but they look too mordern, was hoping to find something more concrete looking

[wheat horizon]

maybe its made out of 2 walls and pillar?
you could try that if there is appropriate texture

[plush gazelle]

Thanks, I'll give that a try. There's a lot of wall models, I was just hoping maybe someone else had figured out what it was called. Knowing my luck it's probably called "city_wall_big" or something lmao

[wheat horizon]

I don't remember how this walls looked like, but it's probably it

[plush gazelle]

Thanks again!

[frail scarab]

are there any stairs like these in dl2 devt ools?

[frail scarab]

anything similar to this in the devtools?

[frail scarab]

I know those 3 meshes, but I need the ones without the wooden feet

[tranquil kite]

Hello there BUILDERS, quick reminder - make sure to upload your map to the game just to make sure that everything works properly. You can mark it as [WIP] version, and there is a high chance that more community members will give you some feedback regarding your map before the contest ends

[frail scarab]

once you upload a map you can set it as hidden

[frail scarab]

@alpine lynx help, how do I use the water box?

[alpine lynx]

eloborate pls

[frail scarab]

I want water in my level, I don't know how to use the water box prefab

[alpine lynx]

Place it down and scale? Theres not much into it really

[frail scarab]

oh, I had to scale it

thought It was a global one

oh, also, diffuse makes the water almost invisible

[alpine lynx]

What diffuse

[frail scarab]

the one here

[alpine lynx]

Ah that okay. Yeah it makes everything bit goofy

[frail scarab]

it makes it a lot easier to see stuff

[alpine lynx]

yes it does, shadows dont get in way

[frail scarab]

wish there was a better full bright mode tho

[random badger]

I have a denied windows version here, anything I need to do?

[past canopy]

Thanks for this hint so we can get better feedback for making our maps even more perfect

[brittle aurora]

but what are the chances that anyone will comment? 😆

[past canopy]

By publishing your map here

[brittle aurora]

Aaaa

okay

[scenic wagon]

Hi guys, I'm wanting to make a very simple mod to replace 'a machete's appearance with the throwing knifes appearance', essentially a skin mod but have no idea how to go about it! or if this is even the right place to ask!?

[versed dust]

We are fixng issue with missing DL1 meshes in game, don't worry 😉

Will be approved next week with hotfix - we don't want to show broken maps for everybody

[random badger]

Awesome, thanks for the comms, much appreciated ❤️

[alpine lynx]

Open inventory_weapondefinitions.scr
Find item wpn_1hs_mach_a (should be the first one. This is shoelace machete)
Replace machete mesh with wpn_throwing_knife_a_tpp.msh
Save script and add it in your mod .pak

I dont know will it work, but thats basically how its done

[keen pine]

The amount of XP lost when I die I too much please nerf it I'm already struggling with the legend lvls

if it was nightmare mode I would say yes sure thing I would lose all that xp but with the current difficulty no it's not worth it at all losing all that xp so please do something about it techland I'm already struggling with the lvls

[plush gazelle]

Just letting you know, that was exactly what I was looking for, thank you! A shame it's low detail, though I imagine no one was expected to get up close to it like that

Actually, now that I think about it, we can rescale things in this editor. So, I guess I could resize it and make multiple ones into a large wall, or rescale other wall assets.

[plush gazelle]

This is going to be a really stupid question, but how do I remove and edit single items from a prefab? I was sure it was possible but now that I've tried I'm not sure.

[scenic wagon]

i tried it on a different machete, (sub wpn_1hs_mach_j - Reload Machete) i dont have 'shoelace' unlocked, but sadly it didnt work

[alpine lynx]

Yup that one is more complicated and you probably need edit two different scripts - weapondefinitions (wpn_1hs_mach_j) and inventory_gen (wpn_1hs_mach_j_reload), which define skin (outfit_a)

[scenic wagon]

im sory what do i need to change in Inventory_gen i see wpn_1hs_mach_j_reload, define skin (outfit_a)

[frail scarab]

do the dev tools have a foliage tool?

[alpine lynx]

Technically no. But you can create your own brushes

[frail scarab]

oof, that's gonna take a lot of manual placing

[alpine lynx]

Just create two versions of each brush. Ground with foliage and ground without foliage. Then paint

[frail scarab]

how, in the brush I can only choose material painting, or am I in the wrong window?

[frail scarab]

it's empty

[alpine lynx]

Then you need search Acieks guide how to add foliage in your map

its empty by default

[fading coral]

small foliage like grass can be placed with a texture when painting on terrain. Large foliage is handplaced

Also I think games that offer automatic "forest" creation in their editor often leads to designers relying too much on it and it can lead to forests looking too artificial

[frail scarab]

his tutorial didn't help at all, I followed this instructions and still nothing

[fading coral]

wait I will read the ancient scrolls of aciek and see how it works

[frail scarab]

rebuilding the terrain fixed it

[fading coral]

The scroll of aciek on foliage says:

-- REMEBER TO HAVE BACKUP OF YOUR PROJECT OR AT LEAST PREFABS! -- 

TEXTURES

1. Close the Editor.
2. Go to SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Dying Light 2\DevTools\projects\YOUR_PROJECT\source\data\Maps\YOUR_MAP_NAME
3. Open YourMapName_t2mat.scr with Notepad++ so you can edit and save it. 
4. Remove everything from inside and paste this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/10E3_GyX9SPCKaqVL4Hs8mdxYkjXM-GBD/view?usp=sharing
5. Launch editor and check it now.

FOLIAGE

1. Close the Editor.
2. Go to SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Dying Light 2\DevTools\projects\YOUR_PROJECT\source\data\Maps\YOUR_MAP_NAME
3. Open YourMapName_foliage.scr with Notepad++ so you can edit and save it. 
4. Remove everything from inside and paste this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JGUxf31VlBOy7Myr0JxwdPP4cNZpnBqx/view?usp=sharing
5. Launch editor and check it now. Painted terrain should have foliage.

Do you want add Tiny Objects/Foliage on roof or anywhere? Use tiny_object_helper.prefab area is editable with Universal Shape. ```

[frail scarab]

I already did this

[random badger]

If you want to take that a step further and speed up your workflow you can use a randomizer.

It allows you to use multiple meshes and weight the probability of those meshes being selected (works with prefabs too)

You also create presets that'll automate things like scale and rotation randomization

It results in a variety of spawns and rotations for your meshes

[scenic wagon]

im still stuck, changed
inventory_weapondefinitions - wpn_1hs_mach_j / wpn_1hs_mach_j _crafting:
mesh - wpn_throwing_knife_a_tpp.msh
inventory_gen - wpn_1hs_mach_j / wpn_1hs_mach_j _crafting:
skin - ("default") (same as throwing knife)
still nothing..

[alpine lynx]

Send me the pak

Also recommend setting hotkey for 'Align entities to entities, terrain and helpers'

[scenic wagon]

sorry how do i send it? wont let me post in chat

[alpine lynx]

Okay, DM me

[frail scarab]

by default it's off

[alpine lynx]

Sadly theres barely any hotkeys by default

[frail scarab]

How does the randomizer even work?

[frail scarab]

question, is it possible to spawn active projectiles? Like an armed grenade for example that explodes on contact

[random badger]

I suppose it's complicated to explain, I might make a tutorial about it... there's a more practical usage of it here: https://youtu.be/aA9zEQsxKfI

[plush gazelle]

Ah, I just did a bit of fiddling about, because I swore I was able to adjust individual objects within a prefab, and I could. For some reason though, the prefabs of the "end level" (I don't know if the name would be a spoiler or not) doesn't let you adjust individual items in them.

[alpine lynx]

No but I bet theres some workarounds. Like object_thrower
Also I wrote guide for randomizer in modding server, check that out

[alpine lynx]

You have opened prefab, right? There may be prefabs inside prefabs

[plush gazelle]

I think so, but I'll go back and check it again just to be safe

Yep, it doesn't look like end level prefabs can be opened to mess with them, however I noticed a lot of randomisers within the various prefabs inside them

[frail scarab]

@versed dust My map on the mod.io page keeps unhiding, do you know why? The map is unplayable and I'm not able to fix it

[formal umbra]

Tutorials for dev tools from DL1 would be good as the supplement for lacking parts of new tutorial for DL2 dev tools?

[alpine lynx]

Does IgnoreAllEnemies work? In humanai settings
Idk how those patrols work but you can use behaviorplace if you dont need some specific patrol path

there should be few patrol behaviors

[wraith dove]

i get 20 fps in dev tools but 144 in game any fix

[wraith dove]

yeah i fixed it thanks

[spark egret]

@random badger btw ur map is very very intensive on gpu's. if u can improve performance that would be good

[random badger]

It is an itterative thing working on the performance. I'm making incremental improvements as we go... but the biggest bang for buck will come from Techland. Sort of in the same boat as Terra Divisa. Need control over the LOD system which we don't have yet... but the devs have assured us they are working on giving us that control.

[spark egret]

Hopefully

[plush gazelle]

Oh nice, being able to adjust the LOD should allow for larger or more detailed maps without the performance hit then? That'll be cool, I've got some plans for adventure style maps with big vistas, but I was worried about the detail tanking performance

[alpine lynx]

Its in itemspawners. CombatInteractableBottle

Same with spear

[plucky nexus]

Itemspawner?

That's because you need to do a bit of modding to spawn dead bodies

Go to data0/models, copy everything from there

Then go to Dev tools project folder/models

Paste it there.

After that in your tools open a corpse prefab, maybe the corpse that biter is eating

To open it you need to save and replace first

Take out the dead body from there and switch the models

You'll get plenty

Not really, it's just pasting dead body models into your folder and then just switching to them with a prefab you already have

But alr

[alpine lynx]

Whats corpse prefab

[plucky nexus]

Any prefab with a deadbody that comes up when you type corpse

For ex a biter eating someone

[alpine lynx]

Nothing comes up when I type corpse

You can use multiskinned_mesh and it doesnt require any modding. Paste name of the model in attributes -> Model file = xxxx.model

Model names can be found from data0.pak \models

Use one of those db_lying_xx

[past canopy]

It is recommended giving them unique names

[plucky nexus]

Am I using occluder planes right

Like for example I have a prefab

I only need to make sure the occluder plane covers each four sides and sits inside the prefab, right?

[random badger]

Yeah that's usually enough, I sometimes put them below floors in the buildings as well

[plucky nexus]

Rip those trying to run my map

I'll try to optimize it as much as I can with occluder planes but tbh without lods there's a massive drop in performance

[random badger]

Yeah I'm dealing with a similar issue... waiting on those updates 🤣

[plush gazelle]

Does anyone know why some props I've placed have no collision? Things like pipes, walkways and such. They all say "mesh_no_collision" and I ended up noclipping through them, sending Aiden into the backrooms

At first I thought it was just the floor model I was using maybe, but almost all the props aside from some resized flowerpots have no collision

[plush gazelle]

I don't know what I was doing wrong, but I replaced them and they have collision now

[plucky nexus]

Some props I guess they forgot to add Collison.

But to counter this you can use invisible.mesh on that mesh without collision in order to do what you want

For me it's a rare occurrence

[formal umbra]

It's normal that I can see only few maps for new contest on mod.io?

[random badger]

Yeah, only a few people have uploaded so far

[formal umbra]

Ah okay. I'm worried that is something wrong with the contest.

[plush gazelle]

Thanks! Yeah it was weird, I ended up using what looked like the same props and they had collision. I don't know what I did wrong but it's working now. That invisible.mesh will come in handy though, thank you!

[alpine lynx]

Why it doesnt work and what is the problem?

And you are using quest_object right?

Nop

Just TakeItem node with quest_object connected to it

[formal umbra]

Anyone tried to make Harran Stadium for his mod?

[formal umbra]

dev tools don't include any firearms?

Like the dl2?

[dusk dagger]

Dl2 doesn't have any firearms

[formal umbra]

Yes but dev tools are receiving assets form dl1 so I thinked that they will appear. xc

[plucky nexus]

Ugh I wish you could change meshes of items spawned using itemspawner prefab

Like if we could do that I'd just pick crossbow and swap it's skin with colonel's American 9mm pistol

[plucky nexus]

Only meshes, and those too just for slums.

We aren't getting new prefabs or something like that

[dusk dagger]

Maybe u can do that? Bub's done some crazy stuff

[formal umbra]

[plucky nexus]

I tried but the option is grayed out.

Additionally I can mod my map by changing project files but I wish to keep that as a last resort

You see, modding didn't work well for my last map

@alpine lynx do you know where I can change meshes of items?

I'm pretty sure there's a code somewhere in the file describing what meshes things use

[alpine lynx]

Like player items? Melees etc

[plucky nexus]

Exactly

[alpine lynx]

Its not possible without modding inventory_xxxx.scr's

[plucky nexus]

In this case crossbow

[plucky nexus]

Ty

[alpine lynx]

And file modding doesnt work properly atm

some things work, most dont

[plucky nexus]

I was afraid of that

What about weather files?

I have modified them a lot for the map

[alpine lynx]

I think varlists work but havent tested tbh

[plucky nexus]

Alr thanks for the time

[alpine lynx]

Yes let me know how it works if you test them

[plucky nexus]

I will also test sun_shadows.ppfx from renderloop since I want this to be included in the map

Shadows seem more akin to DL1 with this

[formal umbra]

Do you made that buildings interactive? You can climb on them?

[frail scarab]

Nope

[formal umbra]

Ok thanks

[plucky nexus]

Also bub how do I make use of that wind.prefab?

I want an certain high place to emit wind sounds but the prefab seems to not be working

[alpine lynx]

Theres no such thing as wind.prefab

[plucky nexus]

One minute

wind_emiter.prefab

Hell I always forgot the exact name

[alpine lynx]

It looks like its some leftover prefab. Cant find any references to it from main game

you probably have to make your own APE/AAZ

Actually I made some wind ambient zones for Heavy Rail. Feel free to data mine those prefabs

they should be in their own folder

inside Prefabs folder

aaz_bub_mountains.prefab or something

[frail scarab]

do you know any prefabs that have a farm or something?

[alpine lynx]

No, search prefab folder maybe theres some

like pa_as_pumpking_farm.prefab

[frail scarab]

control their rarity

the higher the rarity, the higher the damage of the weapon

[plucky nexus]

Btw I need to add a dialogue to the game but only when Aiden picks up an item

What nodes should I use and how to set them up

Because this is only one instance I need to use it

[alpine lynx]

Theres usually multiple variants of same weapon. Melee_r10, melee_r11, melee_r12 etc.

_r24 is the strongest

but theres also bunch of weapons (opera, DLC, challenge) that have just one version

[plush gazelle]

I've been messing around with room_boxes and I think I've got them working, but just so I'm making sure I've got it right; the box itself has to cover just whatever room I'm making doesn't it? I ended up going too far through the floor, and my sewer floor had a blue glow. Resized the box to higher up within the sewer and it seemed to fix it

I remember that from the tutorial, though I was resizing it by hand since I finagled the sewer from a bunch of different, resized walls. Seems like I was getting most of it right though. Thank you! I'll need to experiment with the matrix, seems like that's the best thing to do

Ah, thank you! That'll come in handy, I keep forgetting I can switch views

[rain hull]

I wish another 1 week ddl postpone

[plucky nexus]

Same

[rain hull]

I didn't realize how ambitious my idea was until I pulled every thing from my prefab maker project into main project workplace with terrain
it's also becoming laggy

[fading coral]

I feel postponing the deadline is not a very good idea. Because people who planned for it and worked to get it finished until then would not be rewarded for it.

[plucky nexus]

Over here same thing, I was planning to recreate entire slums until I heard that you can make a small portion of it

[plucky nexus]

I've been working since the start but I gotta disagree, how would one not be rewarded just because it gets delayed?

Delay means extra time to cook

[frail scarab]

I made my project in a way that I can easily cut off stuff if not enough time left

[fading coral]

I think that is a good way to do it. I built the basic game logic and the area first, and then added detail on top of it if I had the time for it.

[frail scarab]

It's very useful to do, make your project modular

[rain hull]

I think he means if delay didn't happen, the winners could've been A,B,C who planned time well, but if the delay happened it could be D,E,F who got extra time to finish project winning

[plucky nexus]

Hmm

That's a good point, I guess I'll just upload and keep updating on the way

[formal umbra]

I letted my test project drop to 30-38 FPS only using some meshes to shape the terrain xD

I must lower the scope to make this playable

Or it's just because i have GTX 1060 xD

[plucky nexus]

Imagine the navmesh generation

My map is slightly bigger than the original slums map 💀

[fading coral]

do you have bad fps in the game or in the editor?

my map is about 400x400 meters

[plucky nexus]

No, I have a GTX 1070 and even I am facing issues

Even if I disable all lighting and use diffused mode, it's the same issue

[fading coral]

If the editor has bad fps, then its probably a lot of objects on screen

Like A LOT

[plucky nexus]

29117 Items

[fading coral]

I am not sure if the game has automatic occlusion of polygons that can not be seen by the camera (meshes blocking the rendering of stuff behind them.

[plucky nexus]

Ain't that nanite from unreal engine 5

[fading coral]

You might be able to try to occlude some of it by having large buildings or rocks in the way

[plucky nexus]

We only have occluder plane as an optimization option for now

[fading coral]

I think nanite is a way to automatically downscale the detail of very detailed models

[plucky nexus]

It does now allow screen to render meshes beyond it

So shoving it in buildings does help

[fading coral]

I think DL2 has some automatic occlusion, I am not sure however

[plucky nexus]

But not if you are an open world level

[plucky nexus]

Another issue is we don't have lods working in dev tools

You have minecraft render distance type of performance

[fading coral]

are you sure?

[plucky nexus]

Yep

We will get lods in an update

[fading coral]

I will boot editor to check something

[plucky nexus]

Alr

[formal umbra]

In editor. I understand that's normal?

[fading coral]

I was trying to find some wireframe render mode to check if there is any lod

[fading coral]

I have the same gpu as you have, however the editor is responsive. How many objects do you have in the map in total?

[formal umbra]

I tested map once and it was smooth but I forgot to check the fps durong test xD

[plucky nexus]

Go to scene window

It has it written

[fading coral]

in the scene list

I have 4439 objects

for me the editro runs above 60fps (with some stutters)

I think particle effects might cause some fps loss too

I think the editro is really nice because of how nice it looks. I run it at better settings than my maingame and I take my screenshots in the editor too

[rain hull]

some fxs are shown as burning fire in editor
which is optimization heavy
which is annoying

[fading coral]

In the snowrunner editor, which is also nice, it takes 4-20 minutes depending on map size to compile to see the result

I just increase the size of the render area and take a screenshot and then cut it out

[formal umbra]

Ah nevermind. I have only105 items, 66-67 fps and propably something got wrong earlier xD

[fading coral]

It's very cool because you can also control the daytime and weather from the editor

[formal umbra]

Can I add collision to mesh without it?

[plush gazelle]

I get weird FPS in the editor as well, getting as low as like 20fps, but when I test the game it's back up to 60. It's a strange thing, but as long as it works I guess lmao

In the topic of LODs, I'm looking forward to that for future projects. I'm hoping to make some maps inspired by games like Stray, which is why I was asking about walls when I first came here. Ever since I played that game I just want to make some kind of overgrown, super industrial world to explore

[alpine lynx]

Nope but you can make your own with dummy_box.msh with Null skin

or collision barriers

[formal umbra]

Ok

I don't know if I will make it on time for contest but thanks

[plucky nexus]

You should look into steam punk, or maybe cyberpunk genres for references

I can't remember which one stray was in

Maybe it was cyberpunk

[plush gazelle]

Yeah, it was in a weird kind of cyberpunk/post-apoc, maybe even eco-punk kind of mix?

[plucky nexus]

It's really nice with the art

Maybe it was cyberpunk plus a little retro mix to it

You can achieve it in this game

[plush gazelle]

I love that whole "Huge buildings" contrasted with overgrowth kind of vibe. There are definitely other kinds of games that are similar but I can't recall them. Infra does a similar thing as well, though on a smaller scale and set in the modern day and not post apocalyptic

[plush gazelle]

Definitely! I saw the huge wall models and thought it was perfect that aesthetic

[plucky nexus]

Also some of the meshes seem to be glowing, for buildings

You'll have a lot to work

With

[plush gazelle]

I'm looking forward to getting started, but I still have to figure out all the main aspects of the tools first

Proper lighting, enemies, quests. Hell, I haven't even placed a usable door yet

[formal umbra]

There is any simple way to separate dl1 assets from dl2 assets?

[formal umbra]

I'm looking for assets from yesterday and I feel like some of them are missing

[spark egret]

@past canopy at the last wave do u need to stand in the middle to trigger the final segment? cause viral kept spawning infinitely and the obj didnt want to move at all. when i was going around but when i stayed in the middle of the arena everything triggered, also is there actually a ballista bow cause i had the arrows but not the bow.

[plush gazelle]

I've heard of Aciek's tutorials but how do I find them? I've tried googling it but nothing relevant comes up.

[alpine lynx]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16yTlkW7l0wABXm0bNR8TUzEySAg_XryI

[plush gazelle]

Ah, thank you! You guys are life savers! Those tutorials will come in handy

[alpine lynx]

Yes they are really useful

[plush gazelle]

Oh yeah, there's even a tutorial there on making pipes climbable! I was wondering how that was done. Monkey bars too!

[past canopy]

Thanks for the feedback, yea i have this issue with infinite zombies n stuff which i didn't know why.. but since you where saying something about distance that might be a good hint for me

Sometimes it worked for me and sometimes dont

No i picked the wrong arrows

Where you playing by using the editor or ingame launcher? if so did you encountered any bugs except the wave issue?

[spark egret]

editor, i also had zombies going through some walls but that wasnt really an issue, its just the final segment

[hearty swallow]

people not using devtools support properly pisses me the fuck off

[past canopy]

which walls, where exactly?

[alpine lynx]

[spark egret]

when ur going through the rooms near 2 bombers and before the volatiles room there are some biters going through walls

[past canopy]

the bathroom?

[spark egret]

yes there and before the elevator

i think they were clippin from the volatile area

[past canopy]

do u got records?

[spark egret]

i have the session recorded yes

[past canopy]

thanks

hit me up with it in dms

[spark egret]

sure

[past canopy]

and i will look into it today

also pls try using ingame launcher

[spark egret]

i havent seen the map in the ingame launcher

[past canopy]

wtf

[spark egret]

i searched manually and they didnt come up lol

[past canopy]

cause filter is Missing

lmao

[spark egret]

yea the return to harran filter isnt there

[past canopy]

yep

that's why

I can see Video coming

"this guy managed to recreate the prison heist like in dl1.."

[spark egret]

it took them 8 years to recreate this

boom 1m views

[past canopy]

They haven't gotten any reward

[past canopy]

8 years

[formal umbra]

I don't know how to do that in 20 min. I'm making that 30 min and I'm near the half of dl_s assets. Do you used any trick or just made it another asset after another?

[frail scarab]

here's an example, I made an asset zoo of all road meshes

this way you can just zoom with your camera there and find the mesh you want instead of having to search each one

[formal umbra]

I feel like brainlet trying to do something. I'm sick from the week and I can't made my best xc

I'm making similar thing and saving similar assets in decrypted prefabs

But I can't send a photo

[fading coral]

I think some maps appear and disappear from the mod.i page because if one is updated, a dev has to manually approve it.

Because it appears to work differently from snowrunner. In snowrunner, you manually upload th file for each platform yourself. In Dying Light 2 it's different

[plush gazelle]

Ah, that's what an asset zoo is! I should make a few myself

[formal umbra]

Ok I made that. Thanks.

Finally xD

[formal umbra]

I found that in the meshes. It can't be used by the player?

win_pistol_b_b.msh

Oh thanks I will try later

I must learn how spawning items and enemies works xD

Yeah I have them opened since yesterday. But I did't go to that part yet.

Can we please someone to pin them to the chanel? I think they are seriously helpfull.

I'm already doing that. I'm still at prefabs.

[fading coral]

they are the ancient scrolls of aciek, you have to perform the ritual of google drive to grasp the wisdom of it.

[formal umbra]

🇹 🇭 🇪 🅰️ 🇨 🇮 🇪 🇰

[plush gazelle]

Praise be

🙏

[plush gazelle]

Oh man I figured out how to get the ladderdi working! It's really cool, the animation even scales with the size of the mesh. It was a pain to get it to work at first, turns out when I place it and get it sorted, I had to then flip it upside down and it worked

Between that and the amortizers, I thought they were programmed in to the objects themselves before I used the dev tools, I didn't realise that they were boxes/meshes you could scale over any object

[alpine lynx]

Pretty common misconception Ive seem lots of maps with non-interactable ladders etc.

fun prank when you jump off roof to jump pad but its missing logic

[random badger]

I feel like there's a map idea there. A God of Mischief screwing with you... a Loki type character if you will.

[random badger]

Walls with no collision, spike traps that are actually amortizers etc etc

[alpine lynx]

[plush gazelle]

That's devious

I should do something like that

[fading coral]

does the editor currently support setting up audio settings for exteriors? And placing distant sound emitters? Because playing the main game I can hear a lot of different reverbs when outside

[haughty bough]

hey @fading coral I was able place some ambience on my level by placing ambient_sound_area and some room_logic

in event_group in room_logic attributes I used one of the ambience samples

Hey guys, how long does it usually take for a newly uploaded map on mod.io to get accepted? I uploaded a map for the contest and I just don't want to miss the deadline so I decided it was best to ask here on discord.

[past canopy]

@haughty boughwhats your map name

[haughty bough]

Hey hello @past canopy it's Forbidden District.

[past canopy]

Your map should be live now

[haughty bough]

Thank you for looking into it, I just wasn't sure how the deadline works.

Awesome.

Thanks a bunch

[past canopy]

You wont have any disadvantages if your map is "on hold"

[haughty bough]

Oh good to know, I wasn't sure

[fading coral]

My map is invisible since last thursday when I last updated it.

I read that the devs are preparing a hotfix patch for something related to maps, could that be causing it? Just asking to make sure it was not something borked on the file (I am uploading from WLAN so I worry about corrupted files)

[past canopy]

If you have been using dl_slums or any dl meshes on your map then that causes it to be blank at some spots

Devs are "probably" updating rendering this stuff i think..

[haughty bough]

Yea I also get missing terrain texture when I redownload my map from the launcher. I am sure they will fix it soon

Cool so I can also just hide the level until they fix the invisible mesh bug. I had no idea it was only dl1 slum models so when I tried other custom maps I thought my game file integrity was bad.

[plucky nexus]

Btw how did you get your map approved so fast

[ruby quartz]

[formal umbra]

Em. I see only 5 maps for contest. Hmmmm.

[plucky nexus]

20 hours since I've sent mine

Not approved 😭

[formal umbra]

Oh

I thinked that I can send the sixth and just win xD

I see that you made a great maps. I propably can't compete with them ... yet. And still I can't subscribe them and play xc

[frail scarab]

yo, can you approve my map real quick so I can hide it?

[past canopy]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/289739584546275339/1112502916109049926/gemini31292-confused.gif

[frail scarab]

I just want it to be there just in case, I will update it again tomorrow

and then a last time before the contest ends

[vocal matrix]

How long does it usually take for a map to be approved?

[plucky nexus]

No idea tbh

[plucky nexus]

Playing through in game menu is messed up xD

Trailer vs gameplay moment

[plucky nexus]

Got mine approved just now so I guess 1 day

[turbid holly]

where are your buildings

[plucky nexus]

Playing via main menu map makes them vanish

Play with Dev tools and they will appear

[turbid holly]

and lighting is broken via main menu?

[dusk dagger]

Everything is broken via main menu

[formal umbra]

Nice walls

I'm seeing terrain textures and I'm crying because I'm suck in it xc

I will not make "Harran Slums Hospital" on time xc

[plucky nexus]

Terrain was a very difficult part for this map

Over a month of work and it takes revision every now and then

[formal umbra]

And I tried to make the mod in less than 2 weeks xD

[plucky nexus]

I was making this from the start of the contest. Tho I did have weeks of not working on it due to exams n shit

[vocal matrix]

How to add missions to the map because the shared map does not have missions as they are in the editor?

[versed dust]

We are relesing hotfix for missing meshes from DL1, stay tuned

[versed dust]

We are trying to approve maps in less than 24h

[plucky nexus]

Alright.

[plucky nexus]

Thanks, btw any chances we might see more dl1 meshes like cars

[versed dust]

Yes and maybe not only from DL1 😉

[plucky nexus]

E3 or Bad Blood 😈 that's my guess

[frail scarab]

call of juarez meshes when?

[versed dust]

🙈

[frail scarab]

👀

[formal umbra]

It would be funny to shoot zombies with rewolwers, carbines and gatling gun xD

I'm waiting for firearms from DL1

[sick patio]

selamun aleküm

[fading coral]

I found a major bug with animated doors: It works in the editor (map started from the editor), however when the map is played from the main game, the door won't function. The animation of the character opening it plays, however the object won't move.

I just noticed this on my submitted map, I hope I can still upload a version without these doors before deadline

If you have animated doors (switch) check if they work in the mod.io submitted version of the map. If they work in the editor they might not work in the submitted version.

[brittle aurora]

yep I checked, movables dont work

also opening containers wont display animations

[frail scarab]

yeah, cause of this I had to rework my entire tower

[brittle aurora]

whaaat

you could hide the mesh after movable is used

[fading coral]

I just deleted all animated doors and uploading new version now

[frail scarab]

I had quite a lot of switches for elevator doors and puzzles which didn't work

had to dumb down my entire project

[brittle aurora]

oooh ;/

did you upload version before changes on mod.io?

maybe if they will pattch movables it will be working fine

[frail scarab]

nope, had to delete it all

[leaden ingot]

Guys, Military Airdrop THB-04B at the too of Houndfield (old villedor) near the Saint Joseph Medical Radio Relay is glitched, i've opened it and taken all the items inside however on my map it shows up as incomplete but it shows up in my journal as completed.

The nightrunner hideout next to it keep going inactive too and requires me to activate it again but is also showing up as completed in the Journal.

[alpine lynx]

ok

[turbid holly]

@cloud ether sorry for ping, but I still can't open tools
I turned off windows defener, verified game files, nothing helped
Anything I can do?

[cloud ether]

wish i could help right now, but there is some issue with windows defender I can't help right now

I'm sure it will be soemthing on scope of devs first thing tommorow morning to adress and fix

[turbid holly]

ahh sad to hear that
I have some major bugs to fix and not much time left :/

[random badger]

@turbid holly you wanna dump your crash log here? We might be able to help?

[turbid holly]

what is that and how do I do it?

[random badger]

Well, firstly, are the tools crashing when you try to open your map, or when you try to get to the tools menu?

[turbid holly]

when I try to get to the tools menu

I can't send pictures
But I have 2 erorrs
first saying there was error with updating editor_devtools_x64_rwe.exe

second error saying Dying LIght 2 has virus or something like that and there is (0xE1) at the end

[cloud ether]

that makes me assume it's same issue we had with base game on hotfix today

[cloud ether]

we can see this issues today may have caused a lot of issues for you guys with finishing touches, so we'll see what can be done so you can finish it in time

[turbid holly]

I was asking people and I think I'm the only one with this issue, other folks working hard right now

[random badger]

Hmmmmm... I see, okay you can try to add an exclusion specifically for the dev tools .exe

[cloud ether]

I know there is 2 more people there with similar issue

[cloud ether]

that may help

@past canopy is that what you did as well?

[past canopy]

yea

add dyinglight2winr64.exe as exception

[turbid holly]

I can't see editor exe there
I have selected to view only .exe; .com; .icd and I can't change it to "all files" like you did

[past canopy]

restart steam

and you shouldnt have this issue

"kinda"

[past canopy]

yes

[turbid holly]

Uhh nevermind, I followed steps and now I see more, but I don't see there editor_devtoolsx64

[random badger]

Ah, that means defender probably blocked the copy from the steam install... you might be able to find it under the steam temporary download directory (it stores the files after download then moves them across). It should be under C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\downloading but you'll need to figure out what the id is for Dying Light 2 (it could be 129576 but I got that from a quick google, I'm unsure).

You could, if you're brave, add an exclusion for that whole folder... but you really should remove it when you're done.

[turbid holly]

Map opened!!! 😄
instead of adding files, I added whole "bin" folder to exclusion

[random badger]

Aha!

Fantastic

[turbid holly]

you are awesome buddy

Thank you so much

[haughty bough]

cool I also rebaked everything in my map and reuploaded it, I hope it will work fine with the new update

my objectives were completely broken but maybe that happens only when you launch custom maps through community maps ingame instead of doing it through editor, I am not really sure

[pearl rivet]

just to confirm, the deadline is a little over 24hrs from now?

[turbid holly]

25 hours from now

[frail scarab]

https://twitter.com/DyingLightGame/status/1679513269046763522?s=20 nope, the site had the wrong end hour

Dying Light (@DyingLightGame)

🗺️Our Community Maps contest, Return 2 Harran, officially closes tomorrow at 4 PM CET!

📣It's your last moment to upload your entry in time!
The winners will be announced on July 21st.📅
Good luck, Pilgrims!

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[turbid holly]

lol, good to know

[pearl rivet]

ah okay 🥲

[turbid holly]

When I start my map from editor all works fine, but when I start from game menu I had weird grey screen and map is unplayable
It happend after updating my map. Spawn point is in the exactly same spot, terrain is locked and builded. I did everything like last time.
I can't send screenshot to show it better...

[random badger]

There are a few maps experiencing similar issues, mine completely crashes the game if you try to load it from the menu. You don't need to worry though, see Rafał's response here.

[turbid holly]

yep, he was talking with me

[haughty bough]

Good to know it isn't only me, I kept thinking I borked the upload somehow. It's unfortunate that people who don't use editor probably don't know what is happening when they load in.

[vocal matrix]

Can someone accept PlaceOfSin before Deadline?

@past canopy

[cloud ether]

@turbid holly please update your game, we just patched this defender issue for devtools

@past canopy same bruh

[past canopy]

chill

techland employee #8247328482483 idk

[cloud ether]

And we will also extend end date, I'll announce in a bit 😉

[pearl rivet]

extension by how much? 😳

[cloud ether]

Monday, <t:1689343200:t>

[pearl rivet]

thank you for the info 🙏

[frail scarab]

btw, can you talk with an admin on mod.io to check when they'll approve my map, it's been almost a day now since I posted it and still not approved

[cloud ether]

🗺️ Happy Friday!
We have just released mini fix for Developer Tools related to false alerts from Windows Defender.
Because of this issue, we are extending Return to Harran contest deadline, and give you extra weekend to polish your projects!
📆 New deadline: <t:1689602400:F>

[cloud ether]

let me call them on my peppa pig flip phone

https://tenor.com/view/hang-up-phone-ningning-aespa-ningning-funny-gif-20764405

[cloud ether]

dont stress over it, whole thing is in progress 😉

[fading coral]

Does the fix contain fixes for animated doors not opening?

[cloud ether]

it's just for this error with Windows Defender.

that prevented some people from downloading update

[turbid holly]

I got it working from yesterday and gladly today no problems 🙂

[turbid holly]

can we update map after deadline or it will disqualifies map?

[rain hull]

of course your map won't be disqualified, it's just juries won't review updated build

[plucky nexus]

Wait fr?

So like if I release an update after July 17, before the judges play with it

They won't look at the update build?

[alpine lynx]

They play last build released before deadline

[plucky nexus]

Damn

[plucky nexus]

pending approval

[plucky nexus]

Does approval from moderators effect this?

Like if I submit my update at 5:59pm on July 17, and it gets approved at 6:01pm, will they play my update if it was approved on a later date

[alpine lynx]

Yes, you have done your part before deadline

Verification is out of your hands

[plucky nexus]

Alright, that's reasonable

[dusk dagger]

ifunny.co

[plucky nexus]

Can anyone from techland help

i have one last update to upload

but its giving this error

[shell jewel]

this isnt in the FAQ so I might as well ask, whats the difference between custom levels and stories?

[frail scarab]

The stories is a node based system to create quests for a map

[shell jewel]

ah, right

[cloud ether]

I consider playing your maps guys with streaming here sometime this week, so I can give my points to them 👀 if you want live reaction haha

[brittle aurora]

Ooooo that would be fantastic 🙂

[uneven fable]

Hi guys, is there a section for Dying Light 1 mods? I'm working on a mod and I'm super close to finishing, just wanted help with hopefully a small fix.

[plucky nexus]

I'd love to watch the stream and reaction

[cloud ether]

Maybe wednesday afternoon

[plucky nexus]

👀

Btw if you do plan, I think you should play via Dev tools instead of in game menu.

So many things are broken there

[frail scarab]

yeah, my map should be played via dev tools for best experience

[alpine lynx]

ay Its always nice to see how others perceive the map

and if something should be changed to make life easier for player

[frail scarab]

can't wait to play your map later this week

I'd do it now, but I'm burnt out from dl2

[alpine lynx]

ikr its been a grind, need some rest

[frail scarab]

I'm gonna 100% FF16

[alpine lynx]

Im going to finally play Forever Skies

[frail scarab]

yoo no way, I've actually been interested in that game for a long time too

bit over a year now

[past canopy]

lets create the following 1:1

you script buggy n stuff and i build map

[turbid holly]

[alpine lynx]

We dont have the technology

When theres mesh import I try to get buggy running again

now I cant even drive it properly

[past canopy]

use the bicle scripts

for turning left and right

increase speed and add different sound like engine

[alpine lynx]

ye crossed my mind but bicycle is hardcoded af

[dusk dagger]

Didn't someone figure that out?

[alpine lynx]

Nop

[dusk dagger]

I swear I remember someone importing like a gun mesh in modding server

[plucky nexus]

really?

was it the old server which is as lost as E3 is

[alpine lynx]

Oh mesh import. Yes theres kinda way but its bit broken so I rather wait for official support

[jovial berry]

how do i access this?

[plucky nexus]

Access what

[jovial berry]

developer tools

[past canopy]

Get a copy Dl2 on any pc and download the free developer tools from the dlc section

[jovial berry]

i have it installed and now what?

[frail scarab]

are you on steam or epic games?

[past canopy]

Start dl2 via steam and select "developer tools"

or epic

[past canopy]

https://dyinglight.wiki.gg/wiki/Developer_Tools

[jovial berry]

epic games

[frail scarab]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/dying-light-2-stay-human--developer-tools you first need to install it from here

[jovial berry]

ive got it downloaded and in library

[frail scarab]

now you should be able to start it, not sure how it works in epic games, so it either gives you the option to do it when starting dl2 or there's a direct shortcut for it

[jovial berry]

theres no option to

[plucky nexus]

For epic games, there's a different method

It has its own exe to launch directly from

So go to your root dying light 2 folder where game is install

Go to Dev tools folders, show me what it looks like there

[jovial berry]

looks like this

[plucky nexus]

Lo and behold, the answer is in front of you

Look at the batch file called run editor Dev tools

I think just run it as administrator to make it 100% working

[frail scarab]

should be able to start it without administrator

[plucky nexus]

He can but we must be wary of Dev tools

Usually running as administrator means the program won't have issues running

[frail scarab]

he should indeed, this is my crash log for my map lmao

370 crashes

[plucky nexus]

[frail scarab]

@cloud ether I want you to see my pain

[plucky nexus]

Bro started his villain arc

[frail scarab]

Dev tools crashed enough on me, it is now time I crash the tools

[cloud ether]

[past canopy]

where can i find this folder

[plucky nexus]

Logs?

[frail scarab]

yep

[plucky nexus]

Just go to work folder inside Dev tools folder

I think it's there in the (out) subfolder

[past canopy]

oh

[frail scarab]

bruh

[past canopy]

xddd

[frail scarab]

just today alone I had 17 crashes trying to rush and finish some stuff on my map, 2 of them were caused because I ctrl z too fast

[cloud ether]

but you uploaded contest map in the end right?

I may play them tommorow to rate 👀

[frail scarab]

yeah, after hours of agonizing

Though had to cut down a lot of stuff

[frail scarab]

try to find all the Chickens I placed around the map

[cloud ether]

[turbid holly]

Announcement of winners is still on friday? Or is it shifted to monday, because our deadline was shifted?

@cloud ether btw if you will play Forgotten Island pls ping me. I will gladly watch it

[cloud ether]

shifted to monday, some people wanna play on weekend too 🙂

[plucky nexus]

I'd love the see you play my map as well

[cloud ether]

I'll be tryin them all

[frail scarab]

hope you are ready, my map is a bit challenging

[brittle aurora]

I cant wait to see them +W the adrenaline show 🤣

[rain hull]

when is it scheduled because I would like you to play a updated build of my map and I can do some extra

[frail scarab]

I think she'll play the contest versions of the map

[glacial nova]

anyone know if theres any assets for doing snow and ice in the DL2 devtools?

I wanted to maybe do an ice covered map

[alpine lynx]

Your map live yet? I cant find

[rain hull]

not yet

[alpine lynx]

Not approved?

[rain hull]

not approved

[alpine lynx]

@past canopy 💥

[rain hull]

can be done later
I need to fix some stuff either way
I have a weird ass mapstart location and forgot to tweak it

it's kinda funny way to start it tho
you run through a very wip way out prison and fly to slums

[past canopy]

There is nothing to approve

[rain hull]

anyways I like this gigantic thing

[alpine lynx]

Sweet

[alpine lynx]

wtf ok

[rain hull]

uploaded mod data 2 times and it wasn't supposed to be like this right?
I think I'm fked

[fading coral]

do you mean no map to approve at all or is the reply specific to bub ross?

[past canopy]

Nothing to approve yet

[versed dust]

Everything is approved at this moment 🙂

[past canopy]

I'm helping them out as well, less work you have to do!

Unless you have approved the "updates" for our maps

[fading coral]

I have uploaded 1.3 of my map on sunday, however the mod.io page shows:

Is the "windows" file the one that players download?

Because the "source" appears to be over 300mb, while the windows file is 50mb.

[frail scarab]

My map shows it had 0b file size for some reason

[fading coral]

Is 1.3 still going to be the file that will be evaluated? (It was sent in on sunday)

[brittle aurora]

there is a snow decal that could help, It should be in this one decal_flat_round_a

[glacial nova]

ok, maybe I should do another idea? return to Banoi (dead island 1)

[glacial nova]

could be fun to make a beach resort but make it look like abandoned for 15 years

[fading coral]

1.3 of my map was just approved, thanks!

[cloud ether]

Roll call for @frail scarab @plucky nexus and all other modders who want to see how awful I am with playing community maps gonna be in vc streamin

[plucky nexus]

yooo

[frail scarab]

@alpine lynx get yo booty here too

[cloud ether]

if hakon alows me to make a voice channel reeee

@tawdry parrot halp

[frail scarab]

join mine

[plucky nexus]

Hakon entering the villain arc

[cloud ether]

mmkay

[alpine lynx]

ok sec

im airborne in forever skies and cant land

[frail scarab]

pirek is afk a bit

[plucky nexus]

oh

[alpine lynx]

ok

[cloud ether]

ME BACK

[versed dust]

Yest, and Windows is more optimize in file size than Source files forproject so this is the reason while is 6x smaller

[plucky nexus]

Wow

That's impressive ngl

[plucky nexus]

Btw rafal can I forward you the file for my map

I really want the final version to make it but due to issues before deadline I couldn't do anything

[cloud ether]

@fading coral tried your contest map today - as someone who likes to collect things i enjoyed it!

[frail scarab]

then you'll love finding all the chickens with their notes in my map

[cloud ether]

I may go live on twitch with some maps or here again

But not today

[pearl rivet]

im in a similar boat to teo with my map! 😅

I was able to upload my map before the deadline, but then it got denied-- so i tried to reupload and the upload didn't seem to go through to mod.io? but then when i sent people the updated zip it worked fine

last map contest my map also didn't work when i uploaded it, i think my uploading is just messed up somehow

[frail scarab]

yeah, my map is also messed up, just got a friend to confirm it, 3 of the 4 parkour challenges are missing and the chickens in my map do not have their notes

[pearl rivet]

i'm just glad that bub was able to get my zip working! didn't want all those hours working on the map to go to waste

[pearl rivet]

dear god... think of the chickens

[frail scarab]

the chickens are fine, but their notes are gone
Each one told the player important stuff that can be found

[fading coral]

thanks! Did you find all the teddy bears?

[cloud ether]

I missed one but that's because I had to go for a call

One in yellow bucket haha

The military car one got me tho haha that was well done

[fading coral]

I placed several yellow buckets so the player is sent down various routes.

[fading coral]

did you livestream?

[cloud ether]

Not today, but i may do some community maps on sunday perhaps

[plucky nexus]

If you do please follow the objectives... Things tend to get a lot darker at night

[frail scarab]

speaking of night, my map actually looks best at night, and that wasn't even intentional

[vocal matrix]

There should be 5 places in the competition in the category "Return To Harran" and 5 places in "Prison Heist" ;v

[haughty bough]

Hey guys, I've noticed that for some reason when I load my custom map through custom map menu instead of C editor my objectives do not work.

I've subscribed to some of the other older maps created by other users and objectives would work just fine.

Was there something I could have done to fix that or should I just wait?

I don't see any errors that could be causing it and in C editor dialogue and objectives work just fine so it's not that important.

[random badger]

Did you specify startup quest and map?

[haughty bough]

I think I did, starts up just fine and quest goes as it should with conversation and quest markers. When I launch it through the editor.

Startup quest has the starting gear and skills specified, and npc has the correct animation if I do it through the editor. But when I load it through community map browser ingame, I just spawn without inventory and no objective, map and enemies load fine.

[turbid holly]

It's a bug I think
When Pirek played Cock map from game menu, she didn't have any quest to follow, but map started from tools worked fine

[haughty bough]

Alright.

[frail scarab]

my map for some reason defaults to an empty story node instead of the one I gave it on startup

[random badger]

That's just bizarre... I imagine they know what's wrong though, we're just gonna have to wait for another patch. Count yourself lucky that it runs at least 🤣 "What Remains of Oldtown" straight up crashes the game if you try and launch it.

[frail scarab]

well, my map when started from in-game has no quests, the containers cannot be opened

[frail scarab]

Also, that might've been a bit too much vegetation lmao

[random badger]

In hindsight, probably... As soon as they start giving optimization tools I'm going to go ham. There's no reason the game shouldn't be able to handle that level of detail, there's arguably more detail in the base game, vegetation just takes up more screen space is all.

[turbid holly]

if everything worked as intended I had no story on your map Rabid
and map was very poorly optimized, I had something like 30-40 fps, when usually I have 60+

[random badger]

The map is heavily optimized... there's just no LOD system yet - which I can't do anything about unfortunately 🙃

There's around 150k objects on the map "What Remains of Oldtown" (for comparison, the map "Forgotten Island" has around 11k objects - I think that's yours, correct me if I'm wrong 😄 ), which would be fine if the dev tools had any sort of LOD control, but those objects are just always spawned by default. Honestly, it's a miracle it runs at around 30-40 fps as it is... it was running at around 15fps before I did a performance pass.

In terms of performance, there's occluders up the wazoo (see diagram):

• Dynamic occluding (these are occluders that disappear when you get closer to them)
• Sub-terrainean occluders (these are occluders that exist below the terrain)
• Each building is fully occluded

The forested areas have dynamic object spawning, when you're more than 100m away from any forest chunk all objects in the forest except for the base trees are de-spawned.

As soon as we get control over LOD, then I can go in and set LOD for all the existing objects to ensure that they are de-rendered when the player isn't nearby.

Beyond that, once we have the ability to import our own assets I can go in and set up imposters (https://www.gamedeveloper.com/programming/imposters) for all of the trees, so that they do not occupy so many polygons - buuuuuut, I need Techland to implement these features before I can go and do all of this.

TL;DR - map is as optimized as it can be without more support from the Dev Tools team at Techland

I tried 😔

[turbid holly]

yep I know limitations of editor, just saying it was laggy for me
and I think I tripled quantity of objects on my map, I can check it when I'm back home

[random badger]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say having more objects is better 🤣 . "It's not about the number of objects, but how you use them"... or something like that 🤣🤣

I'm just trying to explain that I've done about as much as I can for now with the tools limitations to optimize... the only way to boost the performance at this point would be to drastically reduce the size of the map... but then it wouldn't be a re-creation of Oldtown, a "Return to Harran" if you will - so it's a catch-22.

[plucky nexus]

Ngl it would've been nice to have OT meshes as well

This contest focus seemed to be only on slums

[frail scarab]

I honestly the assests from Old Villedor would've been a lot better used for OT than OT assest

[plucky nexus]

Ot does have some nice metal roofs tho

I'd prefer them a lot over what we currently have

Also the Turkish architecture for some of the market areas (don't beat me if I got the name wrong)

[frail scarab]

I really hope they give us asset import

[plucky nexus]

Ngl I was surprised how many more options dl1 Dev tools had

I wondered why we didn't get even half as much as those features

[random badger]

To be fair, it wasn't so when the Dev Tools first came out, a good chunk of the features we're asking for again were added later (like asset and audio import.)

[plucky nexus]

I hope so

But I would really love to have modding tools as well, maybe for texture Editing.

Also an animation editor

[formal umbra]

Ok

Who won?

[brittle aurora]

Results will be on this Monday, due to deadline being prolonged by a weekend

[formal umbra]

Nice. I want to know who's the best, learn and try next time c:

[turbid holly]

Bub

[fading coral]

I have noticed that my map does not have the console files shown as live on mod.io. Then I checked the files menu, and there is an option to set the console files to live. Am I supposed to do that or is that something done by the devs?

[cloud ether]

i need a weekend to play 5 more, but so far i am floored by amount of work you guys put into those amazing!

[brittle aurora]

Yeey I am happy you enjoy it 😄 This game is so good to make maps on, all the movement possibilities, I just love it

[trail atlas]

Has anyone gotten this node to work properly or know any alternative? The weather part doesn't do anything even though it used to. The time part works fine.

[alpine lynx]

Try SetDayPhase

[plucky nexus]

I think if you increase transition time value it gets fixed

I had the same issue

Increase transition time to 10 or 30

And it got fixed

[trail atlas]

funnily enough that was going to be the next thing I tried imma test and see if it works

[plucky nexus]

Lemme know when you do

That's how I fixed it on my map which changes time of day frequently for the main demo quest

[trail atlas]

Sorry for the delay, I got sidetracked.

It does indeed work, thanks, but 30 is wayyyy too long.

I will try something shorter.

[plucky nexus]

Try 10

I tried 5 once but it was broken

[trail atlas]

ah so I see the transition time, needs time...

thats a problem since my map starts outdoors

before an update, having it at 0.0 started the map at that weather and time instantly

I wish it stayed that way

I have to go so I can't test further today but at least I got somewhere

[scenic wagon]

Hi guys, I'm wanting to change the name/description of a machete, been searching through data0.pak\scripts but don't even know if that's the right place to be looking!? If anyone could please point me in the right direction that would be amazing!! (hope its ok to ask this here)

[turbid holly]

weather worked fine for me, maybe some weather types are just broken

[turbid holly]

consoles doesn't support custom maps yet, so I wouldn't worry about that

[fading coral]

I was wondering if that is an automated thing. Because Ithink all other contest maps appear to show console files, except mine and another one.

[alpine lynx]

Depends what machete you want to change. Check inventory_weapondefinitions.scr in scripts folder.
For example shoelace machete is the first item in the script, wpn_1hs_mach_a
Change
Name(”machete”);
Desc(”this is a machete”);

[scenic wagon]

thanks for answering me! didnt work unfortunately!

[alpine lynx]

It works trust me

[frail scarab]

It works, I trust Bub

[scenic wagon]

im trying to change 'Reload machete' to 'Kunai' currently-
Name("&wpn_1hs_mach_j_n&");
do i need to change it to-
Name("&wpn_1hs_Kunai_j_n&"); ?
or
Name(”Kunai”); ?

[alpine lynx]

Correct

I mean just "kunai", && means theres string for it in bins

[trail atlas]

Used to work instantly before but now a transition time needs to be set for some reason. I don't think any weather works without it.

[plucky nexus]

I think maybe the code is being slowed down?

Nodes are blocks of codes afterall

Maybe it needs a little room for breathing

So transition time helps

[trail atlas]

this shit is really starting to confuse me

for some reason after a little bit (like 30 seconds or so) it goes from being overcast to sunny again

w h y

I have a freezetime node so I would assume it would stay overcast

[scenic wagon]

tried it boths ways still nothing unfortunately, will keep trying after work tonight!

[turbid holly]

do you have FreezeTime after every weather change?
on my map I used only once FreezeTime at the beggining while setting up player skills
can you show your nodes?

[pearl rivet]

dunno if you’re still planning on doing a livestream for maps but if you are is there any chance you could play the .zip file (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_xWaSOoGD6cgXUQhSBjaoatqg415QYub/view?usp=sharing) for my map? my mod.io upload for the contest is busted, whenever i upload there my maps crash and sendin people the map file directly seems to be the only way to get things to work 🥲

sorry i realize it’s kinda a hassle that way

[visual crow]

does anyone know why scaling by extents is not working for me?

[brittle aurora]

maybe it is a prefab, prefabs cant be scaled in a single direction

and always change moving mode to local in attributes tab

[visual crow]

oh you saved my life thanks 😍

[cloud ether]

I plan toainly go for maps that are part of contest today, maybe I'll do some general community maps in th future as well

[frail scarab]

hopefully my arena isn't too hard, I did kinda design it to be a bit difficult, but I did fill the map with good loot to make it easier, just in case

Also, don't forget to play my map from the editor

[cloud ether]

if i had a penny every time you said that past week

i could go for free mcdonalds

💀

[frail scarab]

noice

[cloud ether]

i really can read if you say it once

[frail scarab]

you can never be too sure

[cloud ether]

gonna be live in like 5-10 minutes at https://twitch.tv/sheriffpirek playing community maps if you want to see how horrible I am

[trail atlas]

so are you saying to put freezetime before? idk if that will work but I can try

[trail atlas]

that 100% does not work in the slightest

[pearl rivet]

but it was part of the contest, it just broke on upload

[elder ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/rotating-skull-gif-24524852

bro gotta get that free advertising for his map

[cloud ether]

And couple other brochachos

[plucky nexus]

Bro gotta triple check

[willow barn]

when i start my map theres nothing there that i placed

[frail scarab]

You likely have all your assets inside sandbox instead of workspace

[fading coral]

when booting the editor the "active" part of it is the "sandbox". Anything you place is in the active part. To put stuff into the "game" you have to right click on "level" (the opposite of "sandbox") and press set as target.

I think the purpose of the sandbox is to have an area to place and arrange stuff and move it into the map when ready, or remove map from the map to edit it for longer periods of time

[turbid holly]

looks good
maybe experiment without using minutes, only hours?

[cloud ether]

👀

[past canopy]

Official Contest Winnerz:

[random badger]

Congrats everybody!!

[alpine lynx]

GG and congrats guys

[cloud ether]

GG guys, it was absolute pleasure trying out what you were cookin

And belive me it was a hard choice on voting today for all of us

[alpine lynx]

I can imagine, there was so many good maps

and people are getting better and better with the editor

[ember shale]

gz guys

[formal umbra]

Congrats

[plucky nexus]

Btw you guys did you receive a mail yet

I haven't

[alpine lynx]

From announcement post: "Winners will be contacted via mod.io."
So keep eye on your modio inbox

[plucky nexus]

Ohhh

Gonna keep eyes on it 👀

[frail scarab]

Remember guys, if your maps have any chickens, you owe me 5% of your winnings, per chicken

Pirek can confirm

[alpine lynx]

[frail scarab]

I saw chickens in your map

[cloud ether]

I personally was huge fan of the chickens on your map

[frail scarab]

Kinda curious, did ya find the 4 parkour challenges?

[plucky nexus]

Yoooooo

[vocal matrix]

bruh

Idk why Lunar Heist win,like nothing to do with the prison heist but congrats

[wicked pewter]

Its the 'Heist' in the name lol

tbh its just an amazing map, even if it didnt fit the category it still deserves a spot somewhere

[vocal matrix]

Nah, that's what categories are for, stick to them ,on techland.gg they sey "Prove to us that you can create a better prison heist." so imo its unfair

[wicked pewter]

Tbh, I havent played it and really want to get around to doing so, but from the full playthrough bub posted it definitely fits the category in terms of structure

[past canopy]

At the end of the day it doesnt matter the category anymore, you succeed impressing the devs and thats it

[wicked pewter]

tru

also did they remove the developer role from this server crex

[past canopy]

Thats why im not surprised that some maps however are not even identical the contest's title or anything else

[past canopy]

I wonder if it got deleted

[wicked pewter]

dang

I left awhile ago but came back since I didnt know how they were gonna contact me lol

and now no role :(

[past canopy]

Check mod.io or ask pirek directly

[past canopy]

I will look into it

[wicked pewter]

oh yea I got the message from them on mod.io

I just didnt know how they were going to contact me if I won so I rejoined

[past canopy]

Mod io obviously

you uploaded the map there

[wicked pewter]

well the last comp for dl1 didnt have mod io so I wasnt sure

[past canopy]

so they gonna message you there

[wicked pewter]

yup

[past canopy]

dl1 is different than dl2

[wicked pewter]

I know crex lmao

Im just saying I knew there was some rule in the contest that theyd select someone else if you didnt get back to them

didnt want to take any chances

[past canopy]

Of course, your effort - your money, glad it works out like that having and using discord instead

[vocal matrix]

That's why there is a general theme of maps as at the end and so everyone can win?

[wicked pewter]

its a general theme, not a strict guideline from what i understood

[past canopy]

Prison - building looking like prison / zombie waves / defeat enemys etc

i dont think that anyone must rebuild harran prison nearly 1:1

and we had no rules

so its stupid anyway

[wicked pewter]

ye I think the gameplay of bub's fits the prison in that way

[rain hull]

both the prison and Harran serve as inspiration of the contest
so as long as it has the concept in it

[past canopy]

i got your frustation its actually r3tarded af when techland is doing contests without rules or less wording to the exact needed requirements for the win or chances increasing it

We are supposed using the tools instead modding the entire core game structure

so of course its unfair towards others somewhere

but i had this discussion already on another server so yea..

aslong there are no rules nobody cares

[vocal matrix]

So techland is a big company that can't grasp the rules of their own contests. bruh

[past canopy]

and you are being unlucky since you dont know how to mod

[past canopy]

Obviously

[alpine lynx]

I didnt want to recreate anything so I just tried to take the main idea of prison (linearity, combat, arenas -> reward) and implement it in different setting

[rain hull]

there's much more tl can't grasp by far

[wicked pewter]

thats the way I went with it too

[alpine lynx]

Also gib makmaker role if it exists anymore, Im tired of this nick colour

[past canopy]

ye will check rn

give me a sec

[wicked pewter]

people could technically say my map is more dead island esc than harran slums but it takes inspiration from dl1 too

I think one of the youtuber videos said it takes after the density of dead island's moresby

yayyy roles

[alpine lynx]

sweet ty, blue nick

[wicked pewter]

the blue is nice

[past canopy]

As i said; techlands words and the requirement of something else dont go into the same direction as a result

[wicked pewter]

I actually kinda like the lax rules tbh, it allows for more creativity i think

[past canopy]

which of course confuses people and making them mad turning out it was meant something else

[wicked pewter]

ye I get how that could happen too

[past canopy]

That is not the actual problem

Of course more freedom and creativity is nice

but imagine you do a contest where its about creating as example "arena" and somebody is making a map which contains basement combat only

both are not the exact same things

[wicked pewter]

ye, but I feel like the arena is more so describing the gameplay contained

if the basement is an arena style map then its fine imo

but i get what your saying

[past canopy]

and please for god sake we should get sounds and music

[wicked pewter]

YES

[alpine lynx]

We cant mod custom maps because TL disabled most of the scripts

[past canopy]

yea kinda like that

[wicked pewter]

the atmosphere in my map would be soooo much nicer if we had ambient sound zones

[past canopy]

i dont care what they disabled, give us the possibilitys back - that simple

[rain hull]

when wwise tool

[past canopy]

and i think that "copyright" is an excuse for delaying other stuff about the devtools

[alpine lynx]

Yup they should. Its limiting af

[wicked pewter]

rabid and I were talking about it and we think it might be that the Wwise license doesnt extend to 3rd party users and mods or something

so they can use it in the base game but technically cant allow people outside techland to use it

licensing is the simplest explanation at least

[alpine lynx]

Im not sure, I think they meant audio import would require license?
I think theres some other reason why audiopointemitters are not working in editor

[wicked pewter]

I mean yea it could just be that something broke

but its weird that they wouldnt have fixed it yet

[frail scarab]

I just want the dev tools to be the full package

[rain hull]

ape etc be like
grabbed from audio prefabs, working fine
open ape
try to tweak event name
event name empty, not working anymore, f u mapmaker

[wicked pewter]

honestly the funniest thing is the sounds and stuff are in the editor

we just cant select them

[alpine lynx]

Yea cant edit it in editor. Gotta do it in notepad and then open -> save and reload

[past canopy]

But what about the music stuff AAZ_Music etc?

Couldnt find any names for them or else we able using any music

i dont know where the AAZ stuff is hidden at

[cloud ether]

Here is a thing, main theme for Prison Heist was , to quote from website, "30-minute mission. New map. Small scope. Dense gameplay. Prove you can make a better rendition of the Prison Heist. "

So it didn't have to be 1:1, it was about the overall vibe of this beloved content

[past canopy]

But the contest's title was saying something else

[cloud ether]

make it on island, make it in space, but if it give you same vibe it's fine

[past canopy]

"recreate the prison heist OR do it better"

recreate means for me 1:1

do it better = do something else

[cloud ether]

I have website right in front of me

[past canopy]

ye

[cloud ether]

I get that for some those rules may have been too loose

but on the other hand, whats the point of creative challenge, if we would limit your creativity?

Each person who judged maps looked at them from bit different angle, so final score was for overall expereince playing them

if it said "recreate 1:1" i can imagine some people would find it tedious

[past canopy]

well.yea.. 1:1..

i mean...hm..

[cloud ether]

it wasn't supposted to be jab at you here lol

just sayin

[past canopy]

Atleast Dl1 players get a free recreated dlc map for dl2

[cloud ether]

If you guys really think we should be more strict on our rules, and how we judge in contest, we can

[past canopy]

....

[alpine lynx]

Recreate prison 2:1

[past canopy]

Its about the wording

[alpine lynx]

everything is 2x bigger

[rain hull]

basically
"hey we have a contest for you to make stuff
if you have no idea what to make, take this concept as inspiration"
I'm ok with it

[cloud ether]

but then I am afraid it would cause more fighting like "reee there was no giant chickens in dl1, you should disqualify this map" bs

[past canopy]

"recreate prison heist" also people: "oh so 1:1..."

meanwhile it could have been written "recreate the prison heist with your own creativity"

[frail scarab]

I feel called out

[cloud ether]

[past canopy]

recreate the following..

[alpine lynx]

Personal attack

[alpine lynx]

Walking simulator

[past canopy]

bike??

i mean bicycle

[cloud ether]

you just quote an asset that was on social media

we can't squeeze all the rules and description in one picture since no one would read it

hence it was bit more expenaded, givign general idea on website

[near temple]

Pretty sure seeing the prison but ooold would've been cool asf

[cloud ether]

One way or another, if you guys really want to have more strict rules - again - we can make it so. But I wouldn't want to muzzle the creativity that was shown this time