#❗-1-18-experimental

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real bolt
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Not really external

dapper lotus
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which means fucking around with stuff against the ToS

real bolt
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I suppose you're right, my bad

peak pulsar
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📝 time to log every tos violating activity in the chatroom maintained by people who enforce tos

dapper lotus
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I mean, people literally do that

peak pulsar
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yeah im not being sarcastic

dapper lotus
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it's a complete ass canceer of people just tryna get others yeeted from the platform for stupid ass reasons

tired whale
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That's nuts. Some people just need to get a hobby.

rocky slate
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That is their hobby

sharp zodiac
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will 1.18 still be updated or will the focus be on 1.18.1?

ancient sage
sharp zodiac
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Idk I was just wondering

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Becuase I was going to update my server to paper 1.18 but now 1.18.1 is out

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so should I update to 1.18.1 paper? instead?

amber mica
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yes

sharp zodiac
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okay

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thanks

ancient sage
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Just use 1.18.1 and you are good

sharp zodiac
ancient sage
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There is nearly no difference

sharp zodiac
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Ok

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Thanks for the help

empty glacier
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Are all the known dupe glitches patched on paper for 1.18? I hope yes lol

timber ridge
empty glacier
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Thanks. There is one really big one that I assume is widely known and probably patched. Was just checking

dapper lotus
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We don't maintain outdated patch versions

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i.e. now that .1 is out, .0 is dead

sharp zodiac
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Okay. Thanks for the clarification!

sweet shadow
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How is performance with the bigger chunks?

coarse gull
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i think i heard 40% worse

amber mica
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keep in mind that some important paper patches for performance are still missing as well

I would say slightly worse, but still manageable

sweet shadow
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40% wtf

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What about Spigot

still sun
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world wont create in 1.18

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how to fix?

ancient sage
ancient sage
still sun
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oke tell me what information do you need?

sweet shadow
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logs

amber mica
half walrusBOT
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sweet shadow
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I have a server I play on with a few friends and chunk loading is sometimes meh even with 1.17 so I'll probably have to wait for it to get more optimized

ancient sage
sweet shadow
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This update is weird

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Most of the blocks and stuff got added in 1.17 but apparently they underestimated the time required?

ancient sage
sweet shadow
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Spigot/Paper 1.17 will crash if given worlds with bigger height settings

ancient sage
amber mica
sweet shadow
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Oh right they add 64 to the top too

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No wonder then

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god imagine the light update lag machines

amber mica
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those shouldn't be a problem with starlight

cloud swan
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So is there an official build I can use that is safe/stable?

amber mica
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latest 1.18.1 or 1.17.1 build

cloud swan
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There isn't a 1.18.1 on the server downloads for me

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oh nvm it's labeled that in the description instead of new tab

vapid prawn
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Paper 1.18.1 is 3x faster at generating chunks than Vanilla or Spigot 1.18.1

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As of the last numbers I've seen for this

serene meteor
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gotta remember it's also very very early poggies

vapid prawn
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I don't think that one is getting much faster

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maybe if you have a lot of cores someone could figure out how to make it scale better

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But if you're on a shared host or something that doesn't help you

proud zenith
tender gale
civic plank
dapper lotus
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basically, nope

plain solstice
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any reports of nether portals generating a new portal couple blocks next to the old one after updating from 1.17.1 ?

dapper lotus
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reverse proxy for 1 has fuck all to do with it

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for 2, world gen differences between servers would just create ugly seperation

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then again, people use shit like mcaselector so who am i kidding

civic plank
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But I like to could technically have parts of the world on each server and then based on where the log in to (cords) send them to a server that handles that section of cords

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Not sure why you would do it but I bet someone would try

dapper lotus
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the only servers doing that are RPG servers where stuff is heavily isolated

civic plank
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But it is a thing in a way

tender gale
tender gale
dapper lotus
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it causes the exact same set of things, breaks blending, etc

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back in my day, server owners used to care about keeping stuff looking pretty

civic plank
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Well most of the time it's used to delete chunks before an update so I think people doing it don't mind

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1.16 > 1.17 wasnt very noticeable until you mined

1.17 > 1.18 I bet would look like hell

long shuttle
dapper lotus
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portals don't "link" as such, they search for one another

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I asked a basic question on there and got ignored, so, idc

viscid lily
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where animals?

unknown.png
dapper lotus
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don't recall seeing that before...

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animals would be ambient.

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forgot that was a thin that was merged

viscid lily
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so it does not work for me.. Animals aren't despawn...

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I run away very far from animal and then turn back and the animal is still there

signal finch
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Aren't bats one of the only ambient mobs?
I think animals would just be creatures

dapper lotus
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oh, wait, yea

wise nebula
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I'm just here waiting for update #69 so I can say "heh... nice"

dapper lotus
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that build failed

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so, guessing somebody fell out of bed

wise nebula
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😮 Noooo

viscid lily
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can you check why despawn range does not work? Is it working for you?

normal pecan
dapper lotus
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I mean, do note that not all entities despawn

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e.g. pretty much no animals despawn naturally

normal pecan
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any issues with the 1.18.1 build yet? (separate from the ones currently present in 1.18 builds)

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welp boutta toy with it in about 10 mins, so guess i'll find out

feral spire
bold forge
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I always drink tea, eh?....because there is no eat tea, eh.

dark wigeon
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is 1.18.1 equivalent to 1.18 nms-wise?

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seems so

harsh lance
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yes

final fossil
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Is Paper 1.18 #66 also an experimental or is the "Experimental Test Builds for 1.18.1" warning on the website only for #68?

feral spire
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It’s for all

final fossil
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Thank you

feral spire
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Make regular backup

dapper lotus
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yes

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there is literally even a bug report on the issue tracker

ember berry
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my b

normal pecan
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funky

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i know one of the devs for chunky but never knew he was part of it

acoustic walrus
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Meh

normal pecan
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never used it personally, but i've heard people have had lots of issues with memory leaks recently 😆

wise nebula
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Nothing worse than a leaky memory

normal pecan
peak pulsar
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wait chunky has memory leaks?

dapper lotus
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no

peak pulsar
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oh ok good

vapid prawn
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Paper has memory leaks

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When you use Chunky to expand an old world while it's going through all your existing chunks it seems to leak memory

peak pulsar
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ok gotcha so are new worlds ok then?

feral spire
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yes

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atleast in my very limited playing

dapper lotus
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99% of reports I've seen are down to world upgrades

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most people pregening from a few world seem to report nothing

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ymmv, we have limited info

peak pulsar
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ok cool thank you 🙂

normal pecan
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jeeez - worth it though, don't die compooter 🤞

amber mica
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thats a lot of memory

feral spire
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that's way too close for comfort btw

normal pecan
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i have 52 gigs dedicated

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it's using ~5 over that atm, hasn't moved from the 59.9 in around 10 mins though

amber mica
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I have 24 and I never encountered a single app that would need more oO

tired whale
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Dear lord. What are you running? lol

blazing jay
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sexooooo

normal pecan
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58k/400k chunks

tired whale
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Damn, that's a big world. Do you really gain much from giving it so much ram to use?

normal pecan
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gonna be sitting here for awhile

analog jackal
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Is anyone else experiencing this bug where u get kicked with no error message randomly and while try to sleep or place beds?

normal pecan
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could probly get away with 32

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16 was too low

tired whale
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I'm with it lol. Might as well use it.

analog jackal
normal pecan
analog jackal
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1.18

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Newest

tired whale
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Not yet no. Any plugins active?

analog jackal
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Yea

normal pecan
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let me try it on the server i'm currently torturing

analog jackal
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I play on a server owned by a freind of mine

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He said that i disconnected

wise nebula
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Ah, another game of telephone troubleshooting

analog jackal
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But in reality i did not

tired whale
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Yeah we're not going to be able to help without looking at logs

normal pecan
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slept just fine

analog jackal
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Oh.

normal pecan
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I'm on 1.18.1 build #68

analog jackal
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Maybe later i msg for help

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Right now i asking for the logs

wise nebula
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The one running the server should be in here, otherwise relaying things is going to drag it out and cause headaches

tired whale
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Very true

peak pulsar
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your concern is appreciated but unfortunately you cant do that much as a user

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the logs already have all information about your disconnection so dont worry

analog jackal
wise nebula
quasi horizon
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some villagers trade are wrong after updating to 1.18. Anyone else having this issue?

peak pulsar
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Is the second enchanted book the villager is selling Punch I?

quasi horizon
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yes

brisk canopy
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well

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you give 'em 12 emeralds

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they want 14 for mending

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so they choose punch cause it's 11

quasi horizon
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alright, thanks. I'm yeeting myself

feral spire
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leave message up so other people can see

quasi horizon
plain solstice
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beaten by villager ai ,yikes

feral spire
exotic magnet
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1 fix in the last 23 hours

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😬

tired whale
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Complaining about it won't make it move any faster

obsidian grail
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they need breaks too .-. they released so many updates. That and maybe cause the stuff they are the harder parts which take more time.

dapper lotus
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god

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I fucking wonder if ther is anything going on right now which coulda upset the whole flow

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along with the complecity of all the remaining shit

exotic magnet
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What?

timber ridge
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(There's a big exploit that's diverting people's attention right now)

exotic magnet
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Oh

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Ok

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What's the exploit?

half walrusBOT
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All the info we can provide is pinned in the #paper-help channel

wise nebula
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Imagine complaining about something people do, and provide, for free

mortal ferry
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Will most 1.17.1 plugins work on 1.18.1 or is there a huge difference in the coding which requires 1.18.1 support from plugins?

feral spire
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ask the plugin developer. It is not a choice for paper to make

mortal ferry
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My reason was due to 1.16 going from Java 8 to Java 16 in 1.17 thats all... but ok i'll keep checking plugin devs on support.

timber ridge
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Yeah it really depends on the plugin.

brisk gazelle
plush fiber
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I am confused, is the latest build on the downloads page "stable" or not?

timber ridge
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Negative.

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There's a giant red bar that says it is experimental.

plush fiber
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Oh damn, wording was confusing on the latest post.

normal pecan
peak pulsar
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excks ployt

hollow wind
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anyone knows why in 1.18 i can't see any join or quit message? with essentials or with starjoin is the same

peak pulsar
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What is the best 1.18 build?

hollow wind
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latest

clever topaz
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latest

hollow wind
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1.18.1

peak pulsar
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Any major bugs or anything

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Or is it fine for a small server

astral berry
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I don't believe there's any major bugs, but it's experimental so make sure you make backups!

gilded ice
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anyone noticed a delay when joining? like the welcome message motd, etc

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(1.18.1)

feral spire
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Entirely depend on your connection

gilded ice
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235ms?

feral spire
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That’s the latency

gilded ice
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my 3mbps internet can't be that bad

feral spire
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if you really only have 3mbps, that's pretty bad

junior seal
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lmfao

peak pulsar
peak pulsar
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only "big" thing are chunks

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but compressed those are quite small?

lean goblet
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depends on the compression setting too

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I changed mine to 512 min and noticed increased logon lag

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everything else runs fine, but when users join I see a server log entry that the server is behind 40-65 ms

gilded ice
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Its better I'm in 0ms

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I found something

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when I join in 3rd person, I fall like if I'm a ghost

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I pass through the floor and then return to the original location.

normal pecan
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I have gigabit now thank the fiber gods

peak pulsar
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maybe like 128 or sum

lean goblet
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@gilded ice I've seen that with a client that was on the same LAN as the server before, it ended up being high utilization on the client causing it, but I am sure other things could do it to. FYI on the server, the person was just standing there where they should have been, it was only client side that they fell through the world

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higher settings lower CPU usage (if you don't have a server class NIC with onboard processor)

peak pulsar
lean goblet
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i don't think my actual load levels require it to be that high, but i do have the server stacked with too many MC server instances running on it (half are empty most of the time, so it doesn't hurt)

peak pulsar
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i'd say it has very low overhead

lean goblet
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I have thought about lowering it, yes

gilded ice
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I'm using a i5-1135G7

lean goblet
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since the lag is only 40-65ms and only on login, I haven't played with it much

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currently I'm running 8 MC servers on an AMD 3700x

crude orchid
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why u running 8 servers

lean goblet
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I need to boost the ram, but they stopped making the sticks I have in it and I'm planning a full hardware upgrade (was supposed to be end of year, but I've pushed it back till next fall)

gilded ice
lean goblet
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I have 14 servers running, 8 on one machine and 6 on the other

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gotcha

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I game on a 2950x threadripper, so no issues there (I used to stream and play and do video editing on it too, as for why I bought one of those)

normal pecan
arctic oracle
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is the new render/sim distance the one in server.properties? or is it elsewhere?

lean goblet
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it started as a server for me and my kids, then they wanted to play creative, so it turned into 2 servers, then they wanted to play creative on the first server, so I cloned it, and there were 3... then someone at work wanted to play and joined the first server, but after a bit wanted to start fresh. then there were 4... after that my oldest daughter wanted her friends from school to be able to play (the pandemic started), so I added another survival and another creative, and a fun server... now I'm 90% public and I have a 1.17 and a 1.18 snapshot server, plus a couple of random custom maps...

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then I learned about single biome maps and added a waterworld, 2 floating islands, and soon a 1.19 snapshot server...

vapid prawn
lean goblet
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honestly I could turn off 10 of them an probably only get 1 or 2 complaints

arctic oracle
frail dome
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j

gilded ice
arctic oracle
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we got any known issues in #68?

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i know there are still a few patches missing

runic harness
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should prob put the experimental builds disclaimer in that build 68 announcement... got a lot of people excited i'm sure. we went into motion instantly only to grind to a halt an hour to two later when i logged on to actually download it lol

feral spire
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it is there...?

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the banner doesnt disappear right??

runic harness
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i was talking about the last post in #❗-1-18

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sounded to us like it was a stable release (aware that it does not state that, but still, anticipation lends one to read into things lol)

vivid solar
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I haven't followed the current status, what's the consensus on paper 1.18 stability right now?

royal canyon
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tryed to random teleport with a plugin (plugin: lands command: /wild) and then this error happened... dont know if its because of the plugin or a paper bug just in case its a bug which hasnt been fixed yet here you go

📎 latest.log
vivid ironBOT
ancient sun
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what the hell does this mean

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feral spire
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Scheduled task. Usually requested by plugin

ancient sun
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yeah i develop spigot plugins i know

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but like

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what is self?

feral spire
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Your issue however

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Is a spider orgy party

ancient sun
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real?

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that sounds funny as hell

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JESUS

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8000

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is -512,0 the block position in the world

feral spire
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Region file

ancient sun
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ok i kicked the player that was loading it and the server instantly jumped to 18tps

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gotta love it

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20 now

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gotta love it

feral spire
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Do you have climbing bypass entity cramming fix enabled?

ancient sun
ancient sun
feral spire
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fix-climbing-bypassing-cramming-rule: true

ancient sun
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oh

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that would break vanilla farms though innit

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like on vines n shit

feral spire
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I can’t think of any farm that uses this. Please let me know if you know one

ancient sun
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i know shitty designs use it and i dont want to break vanilla mechanics

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ill just timeban the dude who did it for a day or smth

feral spire
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But technically it isn’t his fault though riesad

ancient sun
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fair

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ill take a look

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on a totally completely not connected at all note is there a version of worldedit that runs on 1.18

feral spire
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Yes

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Grab it from enginehub

vapid prawn
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Dunno if they've done a release but grab the latest from their CI

vivid ironBOT
sand spindle
ancient sun
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yeah fair

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are Aikar's flags recommended rn

vapid prawn
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Yeah, even if they need some tweaks for 1.18 they're going to be better than stock 😛

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Dunno if they even need any tweaks by the way, just saying

ancient sun
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cool

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is it bad if i set -Xms to like 5gb or something instead of the full 20gb

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i use this server for multiple things

vapid prawn
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If your server doesn't need 20 GB don't set Xmx to 20 GB 😄

ancient sun
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it can use it sometimes

vapid prawn
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Once the server starts using it it won't give it back

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So there isn't much point in doing anything but Xms = Xmx

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Unless you change the GC, I think one of the newer ones will return RAM to the OS

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But then you need to figure out how to configure that GC and yikes

feral spire
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Try 10 for start

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With aikars flag

sharp zodiac
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I updated my server to paper 1.18.1 and it seems that some chunks have completely reloaded themselves. I mean like the stuff that was there is no longer there.

vapid prawn
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Time to bust out the backups

sharp zodiac
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rip

vapid prawn
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And if you can figure out how to reproduce it filing a bug report explaining how would be appreciated

sharp zodiac
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luckily I made some

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I can try but no guarantees

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so basically the nether got reset

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interesting

sacred forge
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Anyone having a problem with laggy mob AI or mob AI just bugging out?

gilded ice
feral spire
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please attempt to recreate the issue with no plugins and make a report

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that's the whole idea of testing!

manic peak
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does keep-spawn-loaded setting work?

feral spire
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yes

manic peak
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The whole chunk will be loaded from y -64 to 320, like in 1.17?

normal pecan
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likin it so far

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no issues besides a biome blending issue in a previously funky chunk line regardless, so not really concerned

manic peak
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Just I have a redstone system that works by deleting some items under spawn (works like cooldown) and on 1.18 seems it doesn't work

normal pecan
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and, existing paper issues ofc

normal pecan
manic peak
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Just the easiest way to set cooldown on some redstone meh

snow hare
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Is 1.18.1 stable or is still a test build? (#68)

fervent lynx
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it's experimental, which is why this channel has experimental in its name :P

snow hare
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So its not stable yet

modern lintel
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We need build 69

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Nice

unique whale
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Do you guys think the official version will be out before the end of the year and that most plugins will have updated?

fervent lynx
# snow hare So its not stable yet

you're more than welcome to give it a try, just make backups first. plenty of people are having a good experience with the builds so far

peak pulsar
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most plugins dont really need updates except for putting 1.18 on the downloads page

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the core ones at the very least

unique whale
lethal warren
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So far the only issues I've had with paper experimental builds have been chunk loading. Which is just a 1.18 thing in general, since they are double the size

unique whale
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planning on doing the annual server reset and really don't want to only go to 1.17 because of plugins

peak pulsar
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try it on a local machine, see what plugins fuck up

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what kinda server do you have?

unique whale
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lets pretend I didn't respond to the wrong message

peak pulsar
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nah i mean like what plugins

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whats the systems

unique whale
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but we use key ones like core protect, essentials, inventory rollback, lag remover

peak pulsar
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i vouch for coreprotect and essentials, all works as intended. inv rollback should too

unique whale
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we are currently running 1.16.5

peak pulsar
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"lag remover" ehhhh

unique whale
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but I will definetly run it on my machine first

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and ill swap plugins as needed

peak pulsar
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Does your server lag? If so, you are in the right place. LaggRemover causes a noticeable improvement in performance. You can cut your ram usage in half just by installing it! LaggRemover is unlike most plugins (such as ClearLagg) that lower lag on your server in the fact that it works with chunks, not entities.

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is this the one? considering that chunks were changed quite majorly they need time to update

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its from 2019 though and doesnt look maintained unless theres an active fork

unique whale
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y?

dry iron
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Anything that spells it "Lagg" is instantly suspect IMO.

peak pulsar
unique whale
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wait that cant be the right one, the one I have is a totally different version

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still echo
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is 1.18.1 experimental

unique whale
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I always put the plugins version in the name

peak pulsar
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2019, unmaintained since

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yeahhh honestly

unique whale
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what do you recomend for 1.18?

peak pulsar
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optimising your paper server if you run into performance issues

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paper itself already has many great measures out of the box

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and you can go better with it in more conventional ways than a closed sourced plugin from 2019

unique whale
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we are using paper as of now 1.16.5 (with the security patch!) and the plugin from the screenshot you sent works quite well. reduces the ram and cpu usage drastically

peak pulsar
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that isnt always good necessarily

unique whale
peak pulsar
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unused ram is wasted ram

peak pulsar
unique whale
peak pulsar
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what takes it up? have you done a timings report?

unique whale
peak pulsar
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what exactly is "it"?

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have you diagnosed the exact issue?

unique whale
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good chance its one of the plugins

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as paper its self is quite lite

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but with 24 plugins and a bungee server, not surprised

peak pulsar
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diagnose the issue with the timings command, check what plugin does it

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if needed, seek support

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not in this channel

unique whale
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alright, thank you!

peak pulsar
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glad to be of help :)

unique whale
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😆 alr, will do. Thank you all for the help!

peak pulsar
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well developer of paper

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read it again

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look lets not lie and pretend like minecraft doesnt cost the money that it does

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just buy the game

vague falcon
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Best alternative? Using online mode

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Only alternative*

peak pulsar
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не могут дети найти две тыщи не будут они играть в майнкрафт

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пусть сингл играют

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i digress

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this is unsupported territory and you should make the children buy the game from official sources

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everything else is breaking tos

worldly zenith
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uh if i update to 1.18 and make sure i take a backup will it work if i want to play on it or is it strictly just like testing rn?

grave charm
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pls use english in this discord 👍

peak pulsar
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and it does cost 1999 rubles

vague falcon
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that's.. about how much it costs here

peak pulsar
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im sorry mods

grave charm
peak pulsar
grave charm
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yeah, but we strongly encourage taking backups after that too

worldly zenith
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will 1.17 plugins work?

peak pulsar
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1.17 plugins will generally work

grave charm
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most should, but there's probably some that still need to update

worldly zenith
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expected thank you guys <3

peak pulsar
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again do try them out for yourself, check timings to see if any are malfunctioning. they really shouldnt

worldly zenith
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got it ✌️

peak pulsar
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oops info

worldly zenith
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thats about what ive got

peak pulsar
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yep

feral spire
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Use Chunky to pregen.

peak pulsar
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yeah theres a bunch of stuff i need to do better

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i was unaware of chunky before setting up the server and have already pregened it and set up the worldborder

#

ill use chunky in 1.19 though thanks

real bolt
#

How does that new java vulnerability affect papermc? Does it have to do with the announcement yesterday?

peak pulsar
#

yes it does, patched with latest versions of 1.18.1 and 1.17.1

#

it affects papermc in that <1.12 versions are pulled down as of now, otherwise download latest version and youll be fine

real bolt
#

Cool alright thank you

acoustic burrow
wanton river
#

does this mean 1.18 works now?

spring prawn
wanton river
spring prawn
#

I mean you can use it, just make lots of backups, there are still some performance patches missing

wanton river
#

o

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ok

#

nvm then i'll wait

#

😄

spring prawn
#

I have been using 1.18 fine for a week now, however I make backups multiple times a day

#

and its just a survival server, for family/friends, so you may want to be more careful if you got a production server

#

I dont have much to loose, so I am a little careless ngl

wanton river
#

ye the server i'm trying to do it for is like a 3 year world so... imma not take the risk rn

#

😄

spring prawn
spring prawn
wanton river
tawdry spoke
#

Wait so is 1.18 stable now or does that just mean it can run 1.18 but still needs testing

next owl
#

But you can test but take daily bsckuos6

tawdry spoke
#

Ohh thank you, so not stable but it’s giant progress as runs 1.18.1?

next owl
#

Backups

tawdry spoke
#

Thank you 😁😁😁

#

Paper is amazing omg I can’t wait 😂😂

next owl
#

Only few patches

tawdry spoke
#

Oh 😂😂

next owl
#

Kenny completed in single stream

stone helm
#

can i know which version of java do i need to download to run papermc for mincraft 1.18

tawdry spoke
#

Wait stream? Also is this all 1 person doing it? OMG

next owl
stone helm
tawdry spoke
#

Is there a way I can watch the streams? That seems so cool

dark wigeon
#

yes he did Stream.of(Paper.getPatches()).map(1.17 -> 1.18).collect(Collectors.toJar());

tawdry spoke
#

What’s the Chanel name?

next owl
#

Hmmm

#

Suddenly server.properties reset

#

For me

next owl
#

Why

#

Msg delete

#

You could just find that sign and break lol

stark pagoda
tawdry spoke
merry haven
#

well thats fun

#

luckily thats not a production server

tribal lotus
#

A pretty useless message

dark wigeon
#

i'd argue it's pretty nice to know when your server is struggling

ocean copper
#

Thats discordSRV's message for detecing low TPS values

tribal lotus
#

If it sends a message when there is low tps at least it should send some data

#

and a timings report

ocean copper
#

thats just the default, you can change it to whatever you want in the config

tribal lotus
#

Oh

dark wigeon
#

not in the connected chat

#

i wouldn't want everyone to see a bunch of info

ocean copper
#

then have it spit it into the #console

merry haven
#

And plus you can see the info in the console

#

In my case I had it tag my user

#

When there were issues

agile steeple
#

Next build bettwr be good

#

#69 funi number

nova quest
jaunty sentinel
#

because if you rotate the numbers, it will be 69

#

again

agile steeple
#

He understands

jaunty sentinel
inner crypt
#

Not sure if joking or just an innocent kid, lol

loud juniper
#

Guys, whats a joke

nova quest
#

We need some fun during the waiting for (no hurry no rush dev team! ❤️ ) the paper stable build

gilded bison
#

Live on the edge, use experimental

manic widget
#

^^^

#

just dont touch the lecterns

fickle pawn
#

what's wrong with the lecterns?

peak pulsar
#

Their collision is messed up on the top

spare trail
#

then again, I'm a smashy road hot dog car with a broken animation

cinder goblet
#

Question to those who migrated their maps from 1.17 to 1.18 - did you experience any issues with corrupted chunks?

#

How long did the process took? Is the operation safe?

gleaming jolt
cinder goblet
#

i mean like i have always backups, but having world with size of 20gb i assume it will take some time to migrate. dont want to do it multiple times

scenic sparrow
#

should be (kinda) fine if its a smaller server though

dapper lotus
#

you literally do nothing

#

run new version, load world, magic

cinder goblet
#

If the chunk was generated will its part bellow 0y be automatically generated during this migration?

peak pulsar
#

Should i use the #66 or #68 build?

#

68

#

ok ty

dapper lotus
#

Yes, as per mojangs release info, stuff below 0y will be generated

steel dagger
midnight bobcat
#

Hello, I have a 1.17 Citybuild server and I wanted to ask whether it makes sense to upgrade to 1.18 despite the experimental version or if it is better to wait

peak pulsar
# 
[12:59:42 FATAL]: Failed to start the minecraft server
net.minecraft.util.SessionLock$ExceptionWorldConflict: /home/hosting/servers/295590/./world/session.lock: already locked (possibly by other Minecraft instance?)
        at net.minecraft.util.DirectoryLock$LockException.alreadyLocked(DirectoryLock.java:98) ~[?:?]
        at net.minecraft.util.DirectoryLock.create(DirectoryLock.java:44) ~[?:?]
        at net.minecraft.world.level.storage.LevelStorageSource$LevelStorageAccess.<init>(LevelStorageSource.java:312) ~[?:?]
        at net.minecraft.world.level.storage.LevelStorageSource.createAccess(LevelStorageSource.java:282) ~[?:?]
        at net.minecraft.server.Main.main(Main.java:156) ~[paper-1.18.1.jar:git-Paper-68]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.Main.main(Main.java:293) ~[paper-1.18.1.jar:git-Paper-68]
        at io.papermc.paperclip.Paperclip.lambda$main$0(Paperclip.java:42) ~[app:?]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:833) ~[?:?]

Starting org.bukkit.craftbukkit.Main
System Info: Java 17 (OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 17.0.1+12-LTS) Host: Linux 4.19.0-17-amd64 (amd64)
Loading libraries, please wait...

[12:59:51 INFO]: Environment: authHost='https://authserver.mojang.com', accountsHost='https://api.mojang.com', sessionHost='https://sessionserver.mojang.com', servicesHost='https://api.minecraftservices.com', name='PROD'```
in loop
dapper lotus
#

it tells you doe

#

something has already locked that file, i.e. probs another server instance

#

if using a shared host, speak to them for support

peak pulsar
#

tf

#

ok

deft halo
#

Works good on my machine but on another host im getting this error.

Failed to apply patches
java.util.zip.ZipException: invalid stored block lengths
        at java.base/java.util.zip.InflaterInputStream.read(InflaterInputStream.java:164)
        at java.base/java.io.FilterInputStream.read(FilterInputStream.java:132)
        at io.papermc.paperclip.Util.readFully(Util.java:43)
        at io.papermc.paperclip.PatchEntry.applyPatch(PatchEntry.java:122)
        at io.papermc.paperclip.Paperclip.applyPatches(Paperclip.java:238)
        at io.papermc.paperclip.Paperclip.extractAndApplyPatches(Paperclip.java:156)
        at io.papermc.paperclip.Paperclip.setupClasspath(Paperclip.java:72)
        at io.papermc.paperclip.Paperclip.main(Paperclip.java:28)
        at java.base/jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
        at java.base/jdk.internal.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:77)
        at java.base/jdk.internal.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
        at java.base/java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:568)
        at io.papermc.paperclip.Main.main(Main.java:26)```
dapper lotus
#

corrupted jar

jolly mortar
#

Is that normal?

unknown.png
naive beacon
#

I really like the new way builds are listed on the website 👍

unknown.png
naive beacon
jolly mortar
#

I mean this! If there's more, is that a bad thing?

unknown.png
peak pulsar
jolly mortar
#

10 per tick

naive beacon
#

0.5% of tick is fine. I believe the 10 is just avg method calls per tick, no?

jolly mortar
#

Ok

plucky granite
#

is there a max aggro limit or smth on enderman, cuz i have an enderman farm and some enderman dont aggro at all, they just get aggro when i kill the other endermans

peak pulsar
stark pagoda
#

Any stacktrace or logs?

half walrusBOT
#

Please send large files/logs to a pastebin

New · paste.gg

A sensible, modern pastebin. Share text and source code snippets with no hassle.

agile notch
#

Дайте Обнавление 1 18 1

#

пажалуйста

analog ravine
#

уже есть

#

@agile notch

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agile notch
#

Ну обычно каждый день обновы я привык бесконечно обновлять

bold cloud
#

А на 1 12 2 будет фикс?

autumn comet
#

Keep these channels in English

peak pulsar
dapper lotus
#

You've not provided any info which is useful

half walrusBOT
#

-Xmx controls the amount of heap memory assigned to the JVM, this does not include other memory used by java, or native memory used by other libraries such as netty (for networking) or SQLite. Please do not allocate all of your memory!

peak pulsar
#

Well I don't know what should i provide, it worked fine, rn tried to update it to 1.18.1 and it wont launch

dapper lotus
#

We need to see the actual error which you're saying you saw

#

We an't see that so we can't comment on it

peak pulsar
half walrusBOT
dapper lotus
#

well, that's not in the log you saw

#

and without any more info than what that is saying, no idea

#

try redownloading the jar, delete the cache and libraries folder, maybe the versions folder but that should be fine

languid lodge
#

Just wanted to say that my bug hunters have been testing build 68 on all possible levels for the past 24 hours and paper is managing like a champ. Congrats Paper!

peak pulsar
#

thats Awesome (pun intended)

obtuse magnet
#

just tortured my server with repeated tnt elytra boosts and seen no issues

#

on 1.18.1-68

#

if this is supposed to be an unstable build I can't wait to see what stable ones look like

dusty bluff
#

Not sure how IQ can help you there, the only thing I can think of is if your IQ is so low that you decide to run as root.

peak pulsar
#

Is this a monolog

next owl
#

thanos

#

must have snapped nat

peak pulsar
#

what

next owl
#

you log

#

so ppl can actualy see wats wrong

peak pulsar
#

give me sec

warped sleet
#

The unspecified api-version isn't a severe problem. Can you try running the server without CosmicVaults? Because the error happens while it loads some files.

peak pulsar
warped sleet
#

Did you install the latest version of CosmicVaults? Just saw that yesterday a version with 1.18 support was released.

peak pulsar
#

I dont think so

#

It was a plugin that was there for a while waiting to be configured and used

warped sleet
#

Then upgrade or remove it now

crisp lodge
#

tps drops to 16 when someone downloads new chunks at 1.18

polar quarry
#

your server can't keep up then, weak cpu or improperly configured

peak pulsar
warped sleet
polar quarry
# peak pulsar xd

thats normal in linux. 200% just means 2 cores, then 20% of one. you usually see that while starting up or else somethings wrong

crisp lodge
peak pulsar
warped sleet
hard flicker
peak pulsar
#

nope, back at this failed to start loop

[14:32:09 FATAL]: Failed to start the minecraft server
net.minecraft.util.SessionLock$ExceptionWorldConflict: /home/hosting/servers/295590/./world/session.lock: already locked (possibly by other Minecraft instance?)
        at net.minecraft.util.DirectoryLock$LockException.alreadyLocked(DirectoryLock.java:98) ~[?:?]
        at net.minecraft.util.DirectoryLock.create(DirectoryLock.java:44) ~[?:?]
        at net.minecraft.world.level.storage.LevelStorageSource$LevelStorageAccess.<init>(LevelStorageSource.java:312) ~[?:?]
        at net.minecraft.world.level.storage.LevelStorageSource.createAccess(LevelStorageSource.java:282) ~[?:?]
        at net.minecraft.server.Main.main(Main.java:156) ~[paper-1.18.1.jar:git-Paper-68]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.Main.main(Main.java:293) ~[paper-1.18.1.jar:git-Paper-68]
        at io.papermc.paperclip.Paperclip.lambda$main$0(Paperclip.java:42) ~[app:?]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:833) ~[?:?]

Starting org.bukkit.craftbukkit.Main
System Info: Java 17 (OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 17.0.1+12-LTS) Host: Linux 4.19.0-17-amd64 (amd64)
Loading libraries, please wait...

[14:32:20 INFO]: Environment: authHost='https://authserver.mojang.com', accountsHost='https://api.mojang.com', sessionHost='https://sessionserver.mojang.com', servicesHost='https://api.minecraftservices.com', name='PROD'```
polar quarry
next owl
#

kill all procces

polar quarry
#

if you are sure its not (because of a crash) you can delete the session.lock file

dapper lotus
#

Once again, if you keep seeing that, speak to your host

#

The server doesn't care about the file existing or not

#

Its the fact that something is locking that lock file

polar quarry
#

you learn something new every day huh

dapper lotus
#

deleting it will allow the server to start but if you keep seeing that, there is something wrong with your setup

next owl
#

yeas

worthy thunder
#

Are plugin shutdowns somehow even more aggressive on 1.18 than they were on 1.17? When 1.17 was released, our plugin started throwing java.lang.IllegalStateException: zip file closed exceptions, we patched that back then, but on 1.18 it's happening again 🤔

dapper lotus
#

only time jars should be closed is if they're disabled

#

i.e. generally, a plugin throwing an exception in onEnable is disabled and it's CL is closed so that the file can be manipulated, etc

worthy thunder
next owl
#

should i update to 1.18.1 or stick to #68

polar quarry
next owl
#

wait

dapper lotus
#

the things using a shutdown hook

#

the server has already closed everything

next owl
dapper lotus
#

.1 is literally a trivial update

polar quarry
#

theres no reason to stay in old builds now that 1.18.1 is out

#

also the fog update is great

dapper lotus
#

there is pretty much 0 reason to not just update

next owl
#

okk leme just change the jar

#

done!

#

server is pretty stable after players generated most of the chunks

#

no crashes and tps drops

worthy thunder
# dapper lotus the things using a shutdown hook

Myeah, the main dev is being a bit inactive so I'm trying to debug this ._. The ShutdownHook is basically a new thread that's supposed to be run, but I guess the server can't spawn it anymore

#

I wonder why this solution worked in 1.17 but broke just now 🤔

dapper lotus
#

I have doubts on that unless it's just pure chance or not wether the classes where loaded or not before hand

worthy thunder
#

Our userbase is about 3500 or so servers and it's the first time this has come up since the 1.17 bug

manic peak
#

Is there a way to set simulation distance less then 5?

polar quarry
#

no, its capped by mojang afaik

manic peak
#

oh Jesus miss 3 chunks no tick vd(9

stark pagoda
#

why would you do it anyways? seems like a way to screw over your players (assuming you’re running a regular server)

polar quarry
#

3 chunks oof maybe theyre hosting in a raspberry pi

next owl
#

mine is on 6

#

should i increase? or will it cause any lag

#

6.5G max mem

dapper lotus
#

more stuff = more CPU time

#

amount of ram is irrelevnt

#

Yes, ofc, increasing the amount of stuff to tick will make ticking take more time, as for if that increase is gonna kill you, we're not magicians

next owl
#

Processor: 2 x 2.6 GHz is dis good?

autumn comet
#

If that is the only information you have, no

wide sable
#

Do you think the 1.16 optimisation guide on spigot for paper will be alright with 1.18.1 or there’s a new one that people recommend?

half walrusBOT
autumn comet
#

is what's being used

real sorrel
#

memory leak 🤔

dapper lotus
#

500MB of chunks being around is too little to say anything of

#

problems suspect view is literally useless

#

especially if you have 0 experience with the app

real sorrel
#

👍 ok

trail tusk
#

Question. I know it's experimental rn but is 1.18.1 stable enough to update to or wait. This has also been asked probably before but ye lmao

next owl
#

for me it crashed a lot at start after few days 0 crashes

#

and tps drops

trail tusk
#

Yeah I use pebblehost so I'm good on backups haha thanks though I'll give it a try

next owl
#

yea i use time4vps just 1 pound a month for daily backups

hoary forge
#

My Server runs smoth without issues lul

next owl
#

same

viscid lily
hoary forge
#

I have a 8gb RAM Server with 3 cores on Debian 10
6,5 GB RAM for MC

Idk but no crash no errors

floral blade
#

I haven't run into any issues on a not so powerful CPU doggodance

#

Actually runs better than I thought it would ngl

hoary forge
#

my server

floral blade
next owl
next owl
hoary forge
hoary forge
feral spire
#

When discussing about cpu it’s better to list the actual models instead of the core counts as it indicates more information

teal mango
floral blade
#

It's only dual X5675s, they aren't that powerful.

next owl
#

mine just says like this
OS: Ubuntu 20.04 (64-bit)
Processor: 2 x 2.6 GHz
Memory: 8192 MB
Storage: 80 GB
Bandwidth: 100 Mbps (Monthly limit: 16 TB)

floral blade
next owl
floral blade
#

ssh in and run lscpu, unless they obscure that info

feral spire
#

If yours don’t, it’s time to move

next owl
#

oh

next owl
floral blade
next owl
vivid ironBOT
next owl
#

a

#

i dont understand

#

nvm

#

its xeon

floral blade
#

Skylake Xeon, not super powerful these days.

next owl
#

truee

#

but for mc hosting at my size it is enough

#

only for mostly 8-10 ppl at a time

normal pecan
#

im running a horribly optimized 8 year old world

floral blade
#

I've had 5 flying around on a non pregened world without issues so far. Though I have 8 threads of a X5675 available with 12GBs of ram dedicated. Plus I tweaked settings a lot to make it smooth.

normal pecan
#

so, performance is a bit unpredictable

next owl
viscid lily
#

what is the MOST simple way to check that simulated distance really works? I mean I want to see it in game

normal pecan
#

i mean it works?

#

maybe redstone or something

obtuse magnet
#

Lmao I run my minecraft server on my home server

#

With a Ryzen 9 5950X 👀

normal pecan
#

big server runs on a 11700KF

floral blade
#

I'm still waiting for Zen3D then my 3900x is going into a new server

normal pecan
#

this one runs on some old intel i believe

#

eh not super super old

#

7600K

obtuse magnet
normal pecan
#

other machines use various ryzen processors

floral blade
obtuse magnet
#

Xeon I/O is a different story tho

#

Consumer platforms are so limited when it comes to that

#

HEDT is basically a ghost segment and server stuff is super expensive unless it's old as hell

floral blade
#

I have a 2699v3 I don't use currently, don't have a motherboard I trust for it.

obtuse magnet
#

if I could have this that'd be sweet

8a81771e-65bf-424e-92fc-9e9afc4bb0cb.png
rough nexus
#

1.18.1 jar is patched?

obtuse magnet
rough nexus
polar quarry
normal pecan
#

fun stuff

floral blade
#

Expensive but I could kinda justify it doggodance

storm tartan
#

Any1 else experiencing a high connection time/high ping on Paper 1.18.x?

obtuse magnet
steel dagger
crisp lodge
feral spire
#

If you are taking a week to generate chunks, either the hardware isn’t ideal or you are generating excessive amount of chunks

gilded ice
normal pecan
#

i generated 400,000 on a 7600K in 3 hours

crisp lodge
normal pecan
#

oh jeez lmao

#

what processor?

crisp lodge
normal pecan
#

1.6Billion chunks... yeah could see that taking awhile

quartz plinth
#

[15:23:15 ERROR]: Detected setBlock in a far chunk [507, -622], pos: BlockPosition{x=8125, y=-44, z=-9952}, status: minecraft:features, currently generating: ResourceKey[minecraft:worldgen/placed_feature / minecraft:large_dripstone] [15:23:15 ERROR]: Detected setBlock in a far chunk [507, -622], pos: BlockPosition{x=8127, y=-44, z=-9952}, status: minecraft:features, currently generating: ResourceKey[minecraft:worldgen/placed_feature / minecraft:large_dripstone]
lots of console spam in this

dapper lotus
#

long standin vanilla bug

normal pecan
#

that would take me approx 1,333 hours to generate or 2 months

dapper lotus
#

nothing you can do, should be harmless

feral spire
#

are you having a network of 400 player or something?

#

The backup is gonna be a total nightmare as well

normal pecan
#

i mean you could pregen chunks in a circle to reduce that total chunk #, but it's still gonna be insane

#

my calculations were off though

#

i was doing blocks i believe not chunks

#

maybe not

#

i dunno man my head a little fried atm

#

16x400k

#

i believe

crisp lodge
#

Ok, i will try smaller number.

normal pecan
#

yeah 1.6B is way off lmao

#

its around 6.4M chunks

#

still a largeish number though

ocean copper
#

i did 50k x 50k for my 1.17 season.

only about 60% of the map is currently discovered by players

#

going to downside to 35k this time around

normal pecan
#

wait is my math correct

#

40kx40k area = 1.6B/16 = 100M?

#

or is there more

ocean copper
#

40k/16

normal pecan
#

ah

#

yeah thats closer

#

still not perfect though for some reason

ocean copper
#

so 2500x2500 chunks

#

6.25m chunks

normal pecan
#

i gen'd a 10kx10k area and it said 400k, that method puts out 390k

#

but pretty good guess regardless

#

so give or take 100k from 6.25M

#

you know what im not accounting for

ocean copper
#

if you dont have /randomtp and/or /tpa on your server you will never use such size in a map

normal pecan
#

those chunks might be barely outside the previous one

#

so it might be like an extra line of chunks around the border than im expecting

#

which would make up the missing 10k

#

2500 on each side

normal pecan
gray yarrow
#

hi

#

any idea for when paper 1.18.1 will release

half walrusBOT
#
__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
gray yarrow
#

ok

normal pecan
#

i mean it's available for download, just experimental. They've got like 6 or 7 performance patches to make

gray yarrow
#

does that take long normaly?

dapper lotus
#

There is no ETA.

#

Seriously.

normal pecan
gray yarrow
#

ok

inner crypt
#

Paper for 1.18.1 already released?

#

Like, get it on the website, lol

#

Why would you not just link the website?

normal pecan
#

eh

#

if they wanted to download it to test it out, a direct link to the latest jar would be better no?

inner crypt
#

The website would make sure they know where to get them in the future, lol

normal pecan
#

no

#

do i care?

#

also no

inner crypt
#

Well, I do

#

Because I have to deal with people asking this 24/7

normal pecan
#

true haha

inner crypt
#

And with people running outdated builds

peak pulsar
normal pecan
#

at the most i'll be one or two builds behind

#

usually because sometimes ya'll revert changes

#

i saw someone running like build 26 for 1.18 and complaining about something that was fixed later

dapper lotus
#

and that's what we deal with consistently

normal pecan
#

damn that sucks, thanks for all you guys do though.

iron lily
#

Is 1.18.1 stable? I know it's out but will it work ok

dapper lotus
#

pretty warning still there, check

#

no announcement saying it's stable yet, check

#

I mean, literally no idea

hollow mason
#

do you think that i can update my server to 1.18.1 without incurring to risks? I have backups and I use the server to play with friends of mine

topaz nymph
#

I mean if your backing up you are fine

hollow mason
#

ok ty

snow hare
kindred bronze
#

hey, what's the most stable version of 1.18, my server is crashing every 10 minutes

long edge
#

the latest version

#

what is it crashing with?

kindred bronze
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when i upgraded to the newest version, it doesn't crash, but it reports respond errors

dapper lotus
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errors are not a crash

kindred bronze
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i know

dapper lotus
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and we can't comment on errors we can't see

kindred bronze
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I may have a crash error which can help you

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wait to see my logs

jaunty hatch
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is the 1.18.1 build (68) technically more stable than build 66

kindred bronze
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no, i deleted my logs and I can't see any bug or crash

dapper lotus
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it's literally build 66 with mojangs changes in their .1 release

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nothing more, nothing less

onyx mist
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where can I install paper version 1.12.2?

dapper lotus
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Serously.

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out of all of the channels in the discord.

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this one.

onyx mist
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where?

inner crypt
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1.12.2

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Kekw

onyx mist
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I just asked for help. Isn't it possible to just answer and that's it?

dapper lotus
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  1. There is a known vuln in the current published 1.12 builds
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  1. There is a downloads API for fetching those builds, we do not provide much support for it
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and, yea, after 2 days of persistently dealing with people unable to perform basic reading, I'm starting to get annoyed with people who can't read

raw rivet
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In the pins it says, do not use --forceUpgrade and biome blending is "gone"
Why? What would happen? What does not happen if I dont use it? What does "gone" mean?

inner crypt
dapper lotus
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it means that the blending won't run

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there is pretty much 0 reason to forceUpgrade

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that was only ever added as a mitigation for potatos and 1.13's excessive rewrites

raw rivet
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Why would I not want the blending?

dapper lotus
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Nobody is saying that you don't want the blending?

onyx mist
dapper lotus
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This is an english discord

onyx mist
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ну вот переводи теперь, чтобы понять)

inner crypt
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Am not even american, lmao

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Neither is cat

raw rivet
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We're talking about the blending of old and new world gen - right?
Is this run by forceUpgrade? What are the risks if i want the blending?

dapper lotus
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we're talking about whatever the biome blending stuff is in the upgrade logic

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if you run forceUpgrade, it appears according to many that it doesn't run

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so, if you want the blending stuff to run, don't use forceUpgrade

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But, there is pretty much 0 reason to forceUpgrade anyways

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it's a stupid feature which was added to help people running on slower computers deal with the massive upgrade that was 1.13

raw rivet
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ah ok, thx. I assumed I need to run forceUpgrade if I want terrain-blending between existing and ungenerated chunks

rancid badger
viscid lily
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60+ players on 1.18.1. 20TPS still

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rough shell
sharp zodiac
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wat

dapper lotus
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Jars are literally on the website.

next owl
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no u

viscid lily
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for me paper 1.18 is stable for now. As you can see, 60+ players are playing without issues on survival server

next owl
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if you want to lose data without backup use it

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fast = bad

floral blade
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it's open source, do it yourself

next owl
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then dont play mc

dapper lotus
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!ban @somber blade Take your entitlement elsewhere

wheat heartBOT
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:raised_hands: Banned james.#0072 (Take your entitlement elsewhere) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.

karmic mantle
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Just use keepchunk for chunkloader, will help a lot on 1.15+

exotic magnet
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So it's usable now?

next owl
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BRUIH

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i understand you devs and mods

karmic mantle
dapper lotus
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builds mostly appear stable

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that is info derived from the dozens of people in here saying that

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and the fact that the warning on the site has been downgraded.

karmic mantle
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Just keep in mind that you have to update quick to newer versions that's all

dapper lotus
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I'd kindly like to note that reading is not considered an optional thing here and there is a lot of informtion posted around on the state of all of this.

karmic mantle
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You always have people that will keep asking

dry iron
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Sure do. Lots of people never made the connection between reading and understanding. 🤔

serene meteor
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best practice isn't to force upgrade right

dry iron
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That depends - do you want aggressive borders between old and new content? If so, force upgrade would do it 🤣

hexed glade
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Sheesh people READ

karmic mantle
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I said it is useable 😦

nova quest
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Early builds for 1.18.1. Use with caution! Backups are still recommended.

Oke so admin can change this channel to -1-18 early 😛

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Big applause for the paperdev team

mental swallow
chilly yoke
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i gotta say 1.18.1 works surprisingly good even on small servers. big thanks to the dev team

dense sky
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Im still a bit hesitant as it is early build. But will try out soon with backups enabled :D

serene meteor
cloud swan
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I'm getting horrible memory rates with paper right now

covert jolt
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that's normal

dapper lotus
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that's literally how java works...

serene meteor
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gc moment

dense river
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honestly that looks pretty perfect

cloud swan
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With my old file of paper I didn't have those huge spikes

covert jolt
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those spikes do not matter

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garbage collection is supposed to do that

cloud swan
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Hmm okay

dapper lotus
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memory will pile up in the heap

cloud swan
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as long as it's okay 3HC_nervous

dapper lotus
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it is literally only cleaned out when the JVM decides it needs to

tawny flame
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I have a weird little problem, I have enabled the port to the router but my friends cannot enter, why? :/

wicked quiver
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1.18.1 Hmm

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tawny flame
wicked quiver
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map was 1.17.1. this is terrain generated by 1.18.1 under 1.17.1 terrain

feral spire
plush flower
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Hey, I just tried to update from 1.17 to 1.18. Replaced the jar but now the server won't start. There's not even a screen coming up. Anything I need to do in order to get 1.18 working? Normally it's just replacing the old server.jar with the new one 🤔

feral spire
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You likely don’t have java17 but add PAUSE on the end of script to see @plush flower

plush flower
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Ah that's probably the issue, thanks!

rocky lagoon
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Is there any stable versions for 1.18 put out yet

dense river
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No

finite oracle
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WOW.

tawny flame
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I have a weird little problem, I have enabled the port to the router but my friends cannot enter, why? :/

dapper lotus
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common issues are firewalls, CG NAT, antivirus, wrong IPs, janky network setups

charred idol
tawny flame
dapper lotus
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don't mention

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I don't provide support for network configs

tawny flame
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oh, okay sorry

finite oracle
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I feel like this is a missleading statement

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dapper lotus
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only if you refuse to read everything else in there

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as well as the LITERAL warning on the downloads page.

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But, you know...

tawny flame
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I know, and I thought it was for various bugs in the game not for firewalls and other things

feral spire
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Huh

dreamy ermine
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hol up

feral spire
tawny flame
rocky lagoon
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My idiot friend @finite oracle was sure there was a stable version out

polar quarry
rocky lagoon
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Ya he’s dumb and can’t read

dense river
inner crypt
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We are more confident however

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The warning is now orange, not red 😂

dense river
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was about to say that 😄

rocky lagoon
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Ya he can’t read @finite oracle

civic coral
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So, what's the difference between Experimental and Early 🤔

inner rover
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Does anyone know roughly when 1.18 won’t be experimental?

half walrusBOT
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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
inner rover
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Thanks

viscid lily
agile notch
random hornet
timber ridge
agile notch
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Ok

random hornet
still sun
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today 0 fixes?

feral spire
still sun
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if things go faster i will donate for sure

dapper lotus
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We're not playing monkey for peanuts

amber mica
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but you get a nice heart icon!

hollow cairn
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How many of these questions are just from kids who cant read?

dapper lotus
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raw number? I don't have

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but, the percentage, is too damned high

quasi panther
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like my rent

inner crypt
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Holy shit fuck that guy

hollow cairn
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can almost guarantee its a literal child

inner crypt
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We are dealing with the aftermath of a 9.8/10 CVE and that guy complains that no commit to his minecraft server software was made

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(when we literally had commits to other parts of the project)

exotic magnet
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Apparently there was a huge java vulnerability found yesterday

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Is that still around or is it patched?

tired whale
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There are mitigations, but testing is still being done. It affects more than just minecraft servers.

exotic magnet
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What does it actually do

dapper lotus
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Read the announcements.

tired whale
nova quest
outer pewter
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Eta on the papermc merch?

half walrusBOT
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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
dark wigeon
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glad i could help

outer pewter
outer pewter
peak pulsar
peak pulsar
silver heart
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I know there's no ETA, but I'm just kinda curious how development seems to be going? Any tough bugs or anything?

neat ingot
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why didnt paper have an update today?