#❗-1-18-experimental | PaperMC | Page 6

subtle surge Nov 30, 2021, 10:38 PM

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is there a way to make it interactive? or would u just have to use tmux instead lmao

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id much rather use systemd as thats what i usually use

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:38 PM

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services don't have a terminal

subtle surge Nov 30, 2021, 10:38 PM

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dapper lotus services don't have a terminal

hmm

regal anvil Nov 30, 2021, 10:39 PM

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I am not having issues with perms but just the commands in general, I am not using any plugins currently and only using paper because its more optimized than the default vanilla mc (not running a server for a lot of people just with a few friends), the commands only work on console, but even then using the tp command says there's no entity found with tthat name even though player is in server

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 10:39 PM

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i didnt think this through. there are no plugins for this thing

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:39 PM

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i.e. you'd basically need to wrap it in tmux or something to actually have a terminal you can connect to

subtle surge Nov 30, 2021, 10:40 PM

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yea thats what i was thinking cuz though what max said is good for restart redundancy, it would not use tmux anymore

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:40 PM

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no-ping

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 10:40 PM

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lad did you read cat's name

subtle surge Nov 30, 2021, 10:40 PM

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oop

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sorry bout taht

livid sleet Nov 30, 2021, 10:40 PM

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hm

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 10:41 PM

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is 1gb of ram enough for just me checking if plugins work?

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:41 PM

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just try it

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 10:41 PM

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regal anvil I am not having issues with perms but just the commands in general, I am not usi...

you have no plugins at all, just paper, have run 'OP yourname' in console and still cant get it to work?

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have you checked caps?

regal anvil Nov 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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op works

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but the commands don't

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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I mean, there are some caveats

regal anvil Nov 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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like if I try to /tp in the chat I get this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914372738179825664/915369486155141150/unknown.png

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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e.g. if you're fucking around with the online mode stuff that can create issues

regal anvil Nov 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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o

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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i am on the same build and mine work... also no plugins

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:42 PM

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stop server

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delete ops.json and the user cache

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set online mode properly

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start server, do command

regal anvil Nov 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

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I didn't have this problem before even with online mode set to false must be new with the newer versions ig

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

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i mean, there are very few reasons to have online mode false

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:43 PM

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must be new..

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this is literally one of the longest standing issues around switching online mode

regal anvil Nov 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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I skipped 1.17 completely so yeah my bad didn't know about it before

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worked with 1.16

crystal geyser Nov 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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You having a long day thusfar? @dapper lotus

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pain

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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no ping

mossy sun Nov 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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when loading with mvimport in a world i modified with NBT to have a nether environment but label it as a normal the server super crashes. bringing this to Multiverse as well

📎 message.txt

vivid ironBOT Nov 30, 2021, 10:44 PM

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mossy sun when loading with mvimport in a world i modified with NBT to have a nether envi...

message.txt by @mossy sun: https://paste.gg/704d1b2d47654cb78f13fe79d7e5d014

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:45 PM

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. in a world i modified with NBT

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you, erm, fucked the world, apparently

urban mirage Nov 30, 2021, 10:45 PM

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Does it matter if the world is not named "world" for the xray to work. (same with "world_nether")

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 10:45 PM

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polar quarry is 1gb of ram enough for just me checking if plugins work?

it wasnt

crystal geyser Nov 30, 2021, 10:45 PM

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Yep me too SCsadkittyYES

fresh geode Nov 30, 2021, 10:45 PM

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I keep getting this error I have Java 1.17 and it still says this

gentle carbon Nov 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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Then java isnt set properly

pale cedar Nov 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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read it lol

bold crystal Nov 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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Is there an example of paperweight being used on Maven for nms?

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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fresh geode I keep getting this error I have Java 1.17 and it still says this

you might have another java installed aand preferred in your $path. run java -version and look at how you do not have java 17

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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paperweight doesn't support maven

crystal geyser Nov 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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fresh geode I keep getting this error I have Java 1.17 and it still says this

If you're using a Linux server make sure to download the jre

gentle carbon Nov 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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Whats the output of java -version ?

crystal geyser Nov 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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pain

fresh geode Nov 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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crystal geyser If you're using a Linux server make sure to download the jre

I dont use linux DansGame

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:46 PM

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for maven you'd need to build paper locally and install it to your local repo

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best advice: ditch maven

crystal geyser Nov 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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I can offer no help then

gentle carbon Nov 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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Gradle >> imo

fresh geode Nov 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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polar quarry you might have another java installed aand preferred in your $path. run `java -v...

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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I mean

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what's installed on your OS and what multicraft is tryna use can be two entirely different things

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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^

fresh geode Nov 30, 2021, 10:47 PM

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dapper lotus what's installed on your OS and what multicraft is tryna use can be two entirely...

ill try it without multicraft one sec

crystal geyser Nov 30, 2021, 10:48 PM

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I did have an issue with this earlier with a specific OJDK version it didn't agree with

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I just ended up upgrading it from repo and it worked itself out though

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zooted_2

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Now that I think about it I'm now realizing that I was somehow using an ea build of OJDK17

silent locust Nov 30, 2021, 10:51 PM

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Is it me or is the advancements tab broken?

final gull Nov 30, 2021, 10:52 PM

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subtle surge is there a way to make it interactive? or would u just have to use tmux instead ...

None that i'd find very easy off of my head, you could try following some approaches from here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/454098
Or just tmux xD
For server administration I just log in or use some other plugin to access the console

Unix & Linux Stack Exchange

systemd connect to stdin/stdout after service has started

I have a systemd service that is a console application, meaning that it is controlled by sending commands to its stdin and it outputs information to sdout. How can I set up the systemd service so t...

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 10:52 PM

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silent locust Is it me or is the advancements tab broken?

you got a datapack turned on? or recently remove one?

silent locust Nov 30, 2021, 10:52 PM

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Nope. Fresh server

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Running Sodium on my client

subtle surge Nov 30, 2021, 10:53 PM

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final gull None that i'd find very easy off of my head, you could try following some approa...

ill prolly just start it in tmux for now and get everything setup and maybe transition back to systemd if there are problems lmao

pale cedar Nov 30, 2021, 10:53 PM

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hey could someone help me, im getting this error, im trying to figure out what plugin is causing it, but its not telling me https://bin.bloom.host/tidosokufe.md

Bloom.host

Hastebin for Bloom.host

A bloom themed hastebin for your paste sharing needs :)

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:54 PM

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I mean, literally all that tells us is that your server is overloaded

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see timings for potentially more info

ornate thunder Nov 30, 2021, 10:55 PM

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Hello

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 10:55 PM

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But, looks like the JVM is pooping itself

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 10:55 PM

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silent locust Nope. Fresh server

so yeah, apparantly advancements are missing entirly

honest flare Nov 30, 2021, 10:55 PM

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with the simulation-distance property do i need no-tick-view anymore?

ornate thunder Nov 30, 2021, 10:55 PM

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How long do you think it will be till 1.18 paper comes out?

fresh geode Nov 30, 2021, 10:55 PM

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dapper lotus what's installed on your OS and what multicraft is tryna use can be two entirely...

that was the issue kekl

half walrusBOT Nov 30, 2021, 10:55 PM

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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

crystal geyser Nov 30, 2021, 10:55 PM

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36kms behind

half walrusBOT Nov 30, 2021, 10:56 PM

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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

crystal geyser Nov 30, 2021, 10:56 PM

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lmao

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I thought I was running on a toaster

ornate thunder Nov 30, 2021, 10:56 PM

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?

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why

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 10:56 PM

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why? because it's annoying as hell and there isn't an answer

ornate thunder Nov 30, 2021, 10:56 PM

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what is

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 10:57 PM

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asking for ETAs

ornate thunder Nov 30, 2021, 10:57 PM

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I wan't talking about that

silent locust Nov 30, 2021, 10:57 PM

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arctic oracle so yeah, apparantly advancements are missing entirly

paper bug or mc bug?

ornate thunder Nov 30, 2021, 10:57 PM

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crystal geyser I thought I was running on a toaster

i was asking why

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 10:58 PM

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silent locust paper bug or mc bug?

vanilla lol

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single player world has no advancements

silent locust Nov 30, 2021, 10:58 PM

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1.8 lmao?

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it seems like it unlocks as u get the items just like 1.8

crystal geyser Nov 30, 2021, 10:58 PM

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I'm using a RPi4 4GB as a server, it has a tendency to KP anytime there's mass chunk generation on 1.18, but I've never seen it get 36 seconds behind

amber mica Nov 30, 2021, 10:58 PM

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well, no surprise on a pi tbh

crystal geyser Nov 30, 2021, 10:59 PM

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It runs pretty well honestly

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Didn't have any issues on 1.17.1, but if world gen is a problem I'll just shit out a 5k radius pregenned world on my main machine to prevent that from ever happening

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:02 PM

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silent locust it seems like it unlocks as u get the items just like 1.8

seems to be what its doing yeah

fresh geode Nov 30, 2021, 11:03 PM

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how do you make it so block and xp dont merge, forgot how to

grave charm Nov 30, 2021, 11:04 PM

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I think smth about merge radius

fresh geode Nov 30, 2021, 11:04 PM

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grave charm I think smth about merge radius

in paper.yml right?

grave charm Nov 30, 2021, 11:04 PM

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in one of the yml files

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:04 PM

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I'm not sure if this is just me or not but server.properties does not have a seed setting anymore...

amber mica Nov 30, 2021, 11:04 PM

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spigot.yml iirc

grave charm Nov 30, 2021, 11:04 PM

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@raw glen you can add it yourself

fresh geode Nov 30, 2021, 11:04 PM

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alright one second

grave charm Nov 30, 2021, 11:05 PM

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its not their by default, but you can just add a level-seed=lkajfdljasdflkj

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Oh wierd, did Mojang remove it?

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 11:05 PM

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in 1.17, yes

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they still support you setting it, or at least did in 1.17

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:05 PM

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Oh okay xD

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:05 PM

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i mean i set it and it worked so yes

worldly solstice Nov 30, 2021, 11:05 PM

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would be silly not to support seeds eh

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:06 PM

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So wierd that they would remove it

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 11:06 PM

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somebody was saying it wasn't working before but guess that was their issue

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:06 PM

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it doesn't work if there is trailing spaces or tabs where there shouldn't be

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:06 PM

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I'm going to try it out and get back to you

peak pulsar Nov 30, 2021, 11:11 PM

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You may need to edit it in your level.dat, mine didn't take when I set the line in properties

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:11 PM

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you just have to delete the world folder and let it recreate if you change the seed

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worked for me anyway

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:14 PM

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Works!

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:18 PM

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so mine just throws a error when i try to run it i have java 17 working fine with 1.17.1

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 11:18 PM

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if u want help u gotta post the error mate

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:18 PM

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What's the error (use a paste site)

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:19 PM

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halcyon spindle so mine just throws a error when i try to run it i have java 17 working fine wit...

are you SURE you are using java 17? minecraft 1.17 uses java 16

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:19 PM

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@polar quarry love ur name haha!

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:19 PM

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https://pastebin.com/bsppDx3L

Pastebin

Minecraft 1.18 requires running the server with Java 17 or above. D...

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

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its like it hate java lol

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:19 PM

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It's not using Java 17

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Hash check failed for extract filed libraries\mysql\mysql-connector-java\8.0.27\mysql-connector-java-8.0.27.jar

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:20 PM

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java.lang.IllegalStateException: Hash check failed for extract filed libraries\mysql\mysql-connector-java\8.0.27\mysql-connector-java-8.0.27.jar

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 11:20 PM

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wut

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:20 PM

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but why i removed 8 a year ago lol

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 11:20 PM

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raw glen <@!343315911786364928> love ur name haha!

thanks :D

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Make sure to specify which java you wanna run with

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:20 PM

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That's version 8.0.27 of mysql-connector-java

dark wigeon Nov 30, 2021, 11:20 PM

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I think 8.0.27 is -

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Yeah

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 11:21 PM

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raw glen Make sure to specify which java you wanna run with

are you sure? in the stacktrace it shows a hash error with a mysql connector

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not a java error probably

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:21 PM

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yeah it set for 17.0.1

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:21 PM

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In the terminal where you're running this what does java --version show?

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:21 PM

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Oh I didn't see that whoops

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Mine is 8.0.28 aswell and it's fine

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Wierd

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:22 PM

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analog fjord Nov 30, 2021, 11:23 PM

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raw glen Mine is 8.0.28 aswell and it's fine

eyyo bloom host gang

turbid jasper Nov 30, 2021, 11:23 PM

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I'm using this to launch the server:

"C:/Program Files/Java/jdk-17.0.1/bin/java" -Xmx4G -jar paper-1.18-10.jar nogui

As I didn't want to make OpenJDK 17 my default Java. Perhaps you guys might find this helpful.

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:23 PM

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idk it downloads that on its own right?

turbid jasper Nov 30, 2021, 11:23 PM

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But yeah, if you are using a hosting service there is no guarantee that it will have Java 17 available, since that wasn't necessary before 1.18

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:23 PM

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well, im not entirely qualified but a hash failure usually has to do with some kind of corruption

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:24 PM

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@halcyon spindle Are you upgrading to 1.18 from another server version or are you starting fresh?

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:24 PM

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arctic oracle well, im not entirely qualified but a hash failure usually has to do with some k...

Yeah that's what i'm thinking

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:24 PM

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fresh with a plugins folder

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:25 PM

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turbid jasper But yeah, if you are using a hosting service there is no guarantee that it will ...

If your host doesn't have Java 17 you can usually ask them in support to upgrade for you

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:25 PM

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but it aint getting that far lol is it a bad copy of the jar?

weary ivy Nov 30, 2021, 11:25 PM

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Well, that was swift

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 11:25 PM

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yea, bad has would mean that the file is busted

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deelte the lib folder and try again

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:25 PM

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halcyon spindle fresh with a plugins folder

What happens if you delete the mysql library and reboot?

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:25 PM

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Yeah, I think the message about Java version might be a bug here

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Or does it always say that when you start whether you have Java 17 or not?

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:26 PM

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Such an obscure error lol

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 11:26 PM

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https://github.com/PaperMC/Paperclip/blob/523342af77adbcfd446546bc945bdb0dfb769783/java6/src/main/java/io/papermc/paperclip/Main.java#L18

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er

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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looked more like a statement it was up before it started the 1.18 jar download

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Try removing the MYSQL library and rebooting

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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PROTIP: you dont have to reboot your pc to delete a file

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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reminds me of that error mojang talked about where the world was constructed sideways but a completely unrelated bug flipped it back upright before showing it to the player

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Like, if it trips that message it's gonna stop the process

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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polar quarry **PROTIP:** you dont have to reboot your pc to delete a file

reboot the server not the pc

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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lol

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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So, that screams to me that however they're starting the server they're probs calling java twice in their startup file

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 11:27 PM

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a

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:28 PM

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dapper lotus https://github.com/PaperMC/Paperclip/blob/523342af77adbcfd446546bc945bdb0dfb7697...

Maybe it has something to do with getJavaVersion()

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 11:28 PM

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once with wrong java ver, another with the correct one

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No

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Read

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:28 PM

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just stabbing at a guess

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 11:28 PM

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if it prints that message it exits

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:28 PM

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polar quarry **PROTIP:** you dont have to reboot your pc to delete a file

reboot the server

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:28 PM

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idk it put the file back and errored the same

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:28 PM

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So it starts, sees the wrong java version, dies, then starts again with the right java version and dies due to file corruption, fun

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:28 PM

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you might need to yell at your host about that one

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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I hope this isn't a host and this is something they did on their own

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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i am the host >.<

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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oh..

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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what's your start script thing

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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that actually makes it easier to fix

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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cos, that looks like you're basically calling java twice

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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halcyon spindle

Is this ptero or something then?

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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i use amp

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:30 PM

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I've never heard of that

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:30 PM

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should i stop my server render to update to 11? looks to me like nothing in there would help or hurt the render

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:31 PM

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arctic oracle should i stop my server render to update to 11? looks to me like nothing in ther...

What do you mean by "11"?

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 11:31 PM

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are you upgrading to java 11?

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:31 PM

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paper build 11

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:31 PM

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I think build 11 only matters if you run a creative server

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 11:31 PM

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oh

rocky pivot Nov 30, 2021, 11:32 PM

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Anyone has a config for nether antixray?

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:32 PM

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Oh, the recipe thing is in there too

polar quarry Nov 30, 2021, 11:32 PM

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https://gist.github.com/stonar96/ba18568bd91e5afd590e8038d14e245e this explains how to set up xray

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:33 PM

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build 11 also has some new settings to let you filter stuff shown to other players

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Like armor and weapon durability, NBT data, etc

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:33 PM

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doesn't seem to really do much just for map gen tho

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:33 PM

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By default it hides NBT data, you have to enable the durability one

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I said "and etc" but that's really it, those two things are everything

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:34 PM

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how does that effect clients? just doesn't show them item data?

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:35 PM

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Right, it filters it from the packets

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:35 PM

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@halcyon spindle What happens if you run a fresh 1.17 paper server?

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With the java version you're using

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:35 PM

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Like, if something has enchants it'll leave the top level tag on there so the item still glows

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:35 PM

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is that items in chests or all items anywhere?

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:35 PM

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oh i have all my 1.17 servers on java 17 at least it says its using it

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:35 PM

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No no, this is only stuff on the ground, stuff in item frames, or the stuff you're wearing

dark wigeon Nov 30, 2021, 11:35 PM

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that hiding patch is pretty great

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:36 PM

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ahhh i see, so a player looking in their own inventory would still see normal but wouldn't be able to detect an item on the ground in front of them?

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:36 PM

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Right

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They can see what kind of item it is but won't be able to see anything irrelevant for rendering it

dark wigeon Nov 30, 2021, 11:37 PM

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how will hacked clients survive this

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:37 PM

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That's the goal anyway

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Stuff in chests or in your own inventory still works the same as always

gentle carbon Nov 30, 2021, 11:37 PM

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hackers hate paper for this

raw glen Nov 30, 2021, 11:37 PM

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🙂

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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hackers hate him, find out how with this one simple trick!

gentle carbon Nov 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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lol

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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If your server doesn't have pvp you probably won't want to disable durability since that's used for some custom item stuff so that one is off by default

gentle carbon Nov 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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i wonder if this would affect invsee

dark wigeon Nov 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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nope

peak pulsar Nov 30, 2021, 11:38 PM

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plugin invsee?

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then not

gentle carbon Nov 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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yeah

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good

dark wigeon Nov 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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inventory contents are untouched

peak pulsar Nov 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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it only affects cheat client invsee

gentle carbon Nov 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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ahh

dark wigeon Nov 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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just outgoing packets about certain entity information

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players, items

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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plugin invsee makes that player's inventory look like it's your inventory to your client

gentle carbon Nov 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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that's amazing

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Thus not modified

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Entity metadata and entity equipment are the only two packets I think this touches, nothing with inventory

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For some reason equipment is separate from metadata

dark wigeon Nov 30, 2021, 11:40 PM

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and Item entities, no?

vapid prawn Nov 30, 2021, 11:40 PM

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That's entity metadata, no?

dark wigeon Nov 30, 2021, 11:40 PM

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oh

warm ravine Nov 30, 2021, 11:43 PM

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hacked client industry crumbles PepeLaugh

arctic oracle Nov 30, 2021, 11:43 PM

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sys tho its not like its hard to spot them with 5 minutes in spectator

halcyon spindle Nov 30, 2021, 11:45 PM

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i redownloaded and i am getting to the eula at least lol

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yay it loaded and now i have 20 broken plugins 😢

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but it loaded

glossy garden Nov 30, 2021, 11:56 PM

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does no-tick vd override the new simulation distance? or is no-tick just ignored for the time being?

harsh lance Nov 30, 2021, 11:56 PM

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the no-tick patch isn't in 1.18 atm, we are waiting on Leaf

glossy garden Nov 30, 2021, 11:56 PM

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gotcha, ty

harsh lance Nov 30, 2021, 11:56 PM

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Leaf will prob just rip out vanilla's simulation distance for no tick

granite sparrow Nov 30, 2021, 11:59 PM

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Is this normal?

📎 latest.log

vivid ironBOT Nov 30, 2021, 11:59 PM

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granite sparrow Is this normal?

latest.log by @granite sparrow: https://paste.gg/a0798caf609548eb8f26796a81f3b65f

dapper lotus Nov 30, 2021, 11:59 PM

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vanilla bug...

livid sleet Nov 30, 2021, 11:59 PM

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ooh cool how u do that

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:00 AM

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as per literally every single release the past few years...

livid sleet Dec 1, 2021, 12:00 AM

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or is that just innate paste.gg

dark wigeon Dec 1, 2021, 12:00 AM

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it's still in for 1.18? lol

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or are you upgrading from 1.16.5?

granite sparrow Dec 1, 2021, 12:01 AM

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Upgrading from 1.17.1

dark wigeon Dec 1, 2021, 12:01 AM

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good stuff

granite sparrow Dec 1, 2021, 12:01 AM

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Agreed

dark wigeon Dec 1, 2021, 12:01 AM

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least they could do is catch the error

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no doubt they experienced it while testing

half walrusBOT Dec 1, 2021, 12:03 AM

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https://gist.github.com/stonar96/ba18568bd91e5afd590e8038d14e245e

Gist

Recommended Paper Anti-Xray settings by stonar96

Recommended Paper Anti-Xray settings by stonar96. GitHub Gist: instantly share code, notes, and snippets.

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:06 AM

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someone good with custom dimensions in 1.18 here?

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 12:08 AM

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peak pulsar someone good with custom dimensions in 1.18 here?

if you are doing them with a datapack they currently dont work at all

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:10 AM

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oh .. okay thanks! i think thes work "a bit" for me?
yes iam talking about datapack, i tried to add a "overworld like" custom dimension with preset from https://misode.github.io/dimension/ but after pasting my "old" 1.17 world, game/server crash when i reach end of pre-generated area .. something is wrong with world-bleding tool?
from https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Java_Edition_1.18#General_2

Added blending_data containing data to support blending new world generation with existing chunks.

i opened a case at
https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-243433
looks similar to https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-243159

outer pivot Dec 1, 2021, 12:11 AM

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Will there be an option to turn off all of that biome blending and generating new chunks below y0? 🤔 Thinking this could mess with worlds that arent generated by minecraft and arent supposed to be changed like that

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:11 AM

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livid sleet or is that just innate paste.gg

They pasted a file in to discord (which you shouldn't do) and the bot read it as a long message due to the way discord sends it and tried to be helpful and stick it in a pastebin

livid sleet Dec 1, 2021, 12:12 AM

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lol

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:12 AM

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I mean

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I think spigot literally already added an option?

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:13 AM

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Wasn't there something you could do in vanilla to make it not fill in the below 0 areas too?

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I think your y=0 had to be solid bedrock for it to fill that in

little cedar Dec 1, 2021, 12:13 AM

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below-zero-generation-in-existing-chunks in spigot.yml

outer pivot Dec 1, 2021, 12:13 AM

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little cedar `below-zero-generation-in-existing-chunks` in spigot.yml

awesome, thank you. havent fired up any servers in 1.18 yet so didnt see that

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:14 AM

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I asked mojang about it, vanilla approach is basically forceUpgrade to a pre a version before where they added that stuff

timber ridge Dec 1, 2021, 12:14 AM

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Is forceUpgrade recommended?

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:14 AM

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If your world has solid bedrock at y=0 the new generation under there isn't likely to break anything (although I suppose you might not like it for balance reasons)

timber ridge Dec 1, 2021, 12:14 AM

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If you're on, like, 1.16/1.17?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:14 AM

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no

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force upgrade is never recommended

timber ridge Dec 1, 2021, 12:14 AM

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Yeah that's what I thought.

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:14 AM

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we actively discourage it

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Just, that's what mojang said

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:15 AM

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Oh, is that why forceUpgrade doesn't do the blending?

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Or was that just a bug?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:15 AM

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that's probs an oversight

outer pivot Dec 1, 2021, 12:15 AM

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timber ridge If you're on, like, 1.16/1.17?

i do have solid bedrock there in one of my worlds for example, but i dont want anything to be filled in because its an adventure map and its just unneccessary extra chunk data traffic

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:15 AM

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peak pulsar oh .. okay thanks! i think thes work "a bit" for me? yes iam talking about datap...

me and other peoplpe have massive problems with blending

outer pivot Dec 1, 2021, 12:15 AM

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whoops replied to the wrong message

vestal rain Dec 1, 2021, 12:15 AM

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I’m not sure if this is the correct place to ask this, but I have Java 17 installed on the server, but in console it says that I need Java 17.

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:16 AM

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given that forceUpgrade literally runs into the same logic as "optimise" on the client, err...

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:16 AM

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You must have other java versions installed too and one of them is being used

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:16 AM

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if the console says you need java 17 then you're probably not actually running 17

outer pivot Dec 1, 2021, 12:16 AM

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vestal rain I’m not sure if this is the correct place to ask this, but I have Java 17 instal...

then you have it installed but its not being used

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try java --version

vestal rain Dec 1, 2021, 12:16 AM

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I’m the command prompt it says the version running is Java 17, but I was thinking that also, that it wasn’t being used.

outer pivot Dec 1, 2021, 12:16 AM

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huh

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:16 AM

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Either fix your $PATH and/or $JAVA_HOME or run the server with /path/to/17/java -jar... instead of just java

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Are you starting the server in that same terminal without using a start script?

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If not the environment you're starting the server might not be the same as your terminal environment

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Or the start script might be explicitly using java 16 or something

tender gale Dec 1, 2021, 12:17 AM

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dapper lotus force upgrade is never recommended

spigot always recommends forceUpgrade, so they're wrong?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Yes

outer pivot Dec 1, 2021, 12:18 AM

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update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/jdk-17/bin/java 1 <- this was what i needed to run to make java 17 being used on my system, maybe this will help you

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 12:18 AM

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tender gale spigot always recommends forceUpgrade, so they're wrong?

spigot also recommends world deleting builds so...

vestal rain Dec 1, 2021, 12:18 AM

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This is gonna sound stupid but it’s being ran on multicraft, however I could use the normal Minecraft server stuff

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Like, there was a few releases of vanilla where forceUpgrade would destroy any double chests

iron lily Dec 1, 2021, 12:18 AM

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How stable is 1.18 experimental? Would I be better off waiting a week or at least a few days?

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:18 AM

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On the fly chunk migrations are more likely to cause performance hiccups on spigot because they don't do them async

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:18 AM

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drop the fucking bold

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Read the damned page

iron lily Dec 1, 2021, 12:19 AM

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my bad, did ctrl b

outer pivot Dec 1, 2021, 12:19 AM

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vapid prawn On the fly chunk migrations are more likely to cause performance hiccups on spig...

experimental is not for production, dont use it

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 12:19 AM

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vestal rain This is gonna sound stupid but it’s being ran on multicraft, however I could use...

someone else had that problem, was multicrafts fault

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:19 AM

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Did it again 🙂

outer pivot Dec 1, 2021, 12:19 AM

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ffs

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😄

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im sorry

vestal rain Dec 1, 2021, 12:19 AM

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Ohhh ok

earnest birch Dec 1, 2021, 12:19 AM

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The only time I used forceUpgrade was when upgrading from 1.12 to 1.13.

vestal rain Dec 1, 2021, 12:19 AM

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So would it be better to talk to them instead?

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 AM

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On Spigot if you don't do forceUpgrade the first time you load every chunk you'll have some extra time on the main thread used to upgrade it and that might make the server even slower

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 AM

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you del with that anyways, tbqh

rugged bone Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 AM

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eta for paper 1.19? /s

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 AM

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forceUpgrade doesn't run the post upgrade logic

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 AM

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vestal rain So would it be better to talk to them instead?

i am not familiar with how the system works but you need to tell multicraft to actually use the right version

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 AM

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On Paper if anything you'll just notice chunks load a little slower the first time you visit them but everything else will be fine

turbid jasper Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 AM

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It seems that the paperclip test builds do not support paperclip.install? Is there a new way to do this?

vestal rain Dec 1, 2021, 12:20 AM

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Lol, alright.

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:21 AM

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correct, there is no "new way to do that"

amber mica Dec 1, 2021, 12:21 AM

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and the slowness isn't really bad on newer versions. 1.12 -> 1.13 was really slow but since then its fine

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:21 AM

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basically, you either need to publish paper to your local repo manually, or, really, use the gradle userdev stuff

earnest birch Dec 1, 2021, 12:21 AM

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userdev mcheart

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:21 AM

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dapper lotus correct, there is no "new way to do that"

Is that because of the bundle system Mojang uses? I think I remember someone running in to that right after you got things building but before Paperclip was updated

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The jar coming out of paperclip is just a container for a bunch of other jars and a little program to unpack them

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:22 AM

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I mean, teeechnically it could still be supported

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Idk why they opted to drop it, it's somewhat pointless anyways given the excessive obfuscation now

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:23 AM

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Right, paperclip could do the unpacking for you and install all the dependencies to your local repo too

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:23 AM

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Well, the patched jar no longer has the pom file

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so, that info just doesn't exist in the jar anymore

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:24 AM

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But yeah, the spigot jar has even fewer named things in it now

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You're almost forced to use Spigot's tool for using Mojang names or Paper's

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:24 AM

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think it's just one of those things which was bleh when it was added, and is even more bleh now

coarse saffron Dec 1, 2021, 12:24 AM

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paperclip doesn't have a maven install and there are no plans to re-add it

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the use case for it is gone, if you want to depend on paper for plugin development, use paperweight-userdev

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:25 AM

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Okay, but

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:25 AM

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(The paper jar uses the same names as spigot)

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:25 AM

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what if I wanna use high quality tooling

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Like, maven?

turbid jasper Dec 1, 2021, 12:25 AM

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What is paperweight-userdev?? This is my first time hearing of it

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:25 AM

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runs

coarse saffron Dec 1, 2021, 12:25 AM

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the new paperclip jar is itself a bundler jar just like vanilla, but with extra patching magic added

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:25 AM

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it's basically a gradle plugin which deals with providing you a sane environment

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e.g. being able to work against mojang mappings instead of the obfuscated mess

turbid jasper Dec 1, 2021, 12:25 AM

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So, not an option for Maven then? :/

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:25 AM

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paperweight-userdev lets you write your code that pokes at the server using Mojang names for everything (so everything is named) and then obfuscates it to spigot jar names on build

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Spigot has their own thing for maven

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It doesn't work as well but I've heard it does work

proud zenith Dec 1, 2021, 12:26 AM

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just move over to gradle kotlin dsl

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:26 AM

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as I've literally already said; We don't have much experience or interest in making a maven plugin

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:26 AM

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Kind of like maven 😄

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:26 AM

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There is literally nothing stopping anybody doing that, however; This is all open source

turbid jasper Dec 1, 2021, 12:26 AM

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I have no experience with Gradle, which is why I am resistant to switching. I'll have to not only learn how to use it, but also redo all of my dependencies and build system. How unfortunate.

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:27 AM

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If you want the combination of Maven, Mojang mappings, and Paper API additions then there is currently no way to do that

coarse saffron Dec 1, 2021, 12:27 AM

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good luck making a paperweight maven plugin lmao

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:27 AM

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But if you're making a plugin that can work on spigot just use their maven thing

earnest birch Dec 1, 2021, 12:27 AM

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gradle init is the first step to a migrated project.

coarse saffron Dec 1, 2021, 12:27 AM

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maven simply does not have the tools needed to facilitate what we do

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:27 AM

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Or, even better, migrate to gradle 😄

atomic trench Dec 1, 2021, 12:28 AM

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is 1.18 still under experimental stages?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:29 AM

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I mean

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until we announce otherwise, the existing several dozen posts saying that are still accurate.

molten dawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:29 AM

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should also ask for an eta i hear that helps making it go faster /j

coarse saffron Dec 1, 2021, 12:29 AM

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only several dozen?

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probably in the hundreds by now

atomic trench Dec 1, 2021, 12:30 AM

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okay getting told not to use it till its safe to use

coarse saffron Dec 1, 2021, 12:30 AM

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we appreciate anyone who is willing to test it for us, understanding the risks involved

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but we don't recommend running a production server that you actually care about keeping around for a while on it

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:31 AM

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If you take frequent backups and are willing to roll back to your last 1.17.1 backup if it turns out there is some data corruption bug no one noticed for a while then you can upgrade now 😄

heady grail Dec 1, 2021, 12:31 AM

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coarse saffron probably in the hundreds by now

Thousends

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:31 AM

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Odds are you'll have plugins that don't work though so you'll want to make a test server first

gusty trench Dec 1, 2021, 12:31 AM

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(Head up for the residents here: if someone has some undecipherable DFU-looking spam, it might be due to Multiverse. It really dislikes 1.18 right now)

languid shuttle Dec 1, 2021, 12:32 AM

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Can someone give me 1.18 features list or smth
I just want to think now if I wanna do 1.17 or 1.18 for my sweet smp

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:32 AM

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multiverse has fuck all to do with that

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multiverse just uses the server to load worlds, nothing special

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if MV is having issues loading worlds, then that's a server issue

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But, DFU spam is literally the norm for modern mc

gusty trench Dec 1, 2021, 12:33 AM

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dapper lotus multiverse has fuck all to do with that

See https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-6823

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:34 AM

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which confirms literally nothing?

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Once again, MV just uses the API to load worlds

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if there is an issue in MV with loading worlds, that's pretty much gonna be a server issue

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 12:34 AM

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languid shuttle Can someone give me 1.18 features list or smth I just want to think now if I wan...

you literally just had to type "1.18" into google, you dont even need to specify what you are talking about
https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Java_Edition_1.18

gusty trench Dec 1, 2021, 12:34 AM

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Ah, I see what you mean

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:34 AM

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I think the API for loading worlds exists for multiverse to call it, even

rustic surge Dec 1, 2021, 12:34 AM

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vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:34 AM

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I think multiverse was the original plugin for that API anyway

languid shuttle Dec 1, 2021, 12:34 AM

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arctic oracle you literally just had to type "1.18" into google, you dont even need to specify...

I'm at phone just woke up to pings and came to paper dc

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:34 AM

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I mean, do note

languid shuttle Dec 1, 2021, 12:35 AM

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;-;

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:35 AM

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that upgrading worlds which used datapacks is not supported

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:35 AM

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is there a way

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to convert maven to gradle

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:35 AM

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somebody literally already told you

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:35 AM

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dapper lotus that upgrading worlds which used datapacks is not supported

By paper or in general?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:35 AM

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it's not perfect, but, it's a start

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in general

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it's only 1.18 that biomes can even be upgraded safely

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:35 AM

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Wow

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:36 AM

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(and, ofc, that's 1.18 > 1.19, not 1.17 > 1.18)

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:36 AM

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Well, I guess it's easy to get old client versions to play some adventure map these days

earnest birch Dec 1, 2021, 12:36 AM

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peak pulsar to convert maven to gradle

gradle init in project root.

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:36 AM

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Some day you'll pick maps or servers first and it'll just pick the right version for you 😄

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:36 AM

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java.lang.IllegalStateException: Missing Palette entry for id 0.

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:36 AM

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The launcher, I mean

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:36 AM

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bahahahaaa

languid shuttle Dec 1, 2021, 12:36 AM

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Also 1 question, plugin compatibility? Like 1.17 plugins work?

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Or I gotta do smth

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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That just sounds like a chunk which spigot corrupted

languid shuttle Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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Or wait for devs

coarse saffron Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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vapid prawn Some day you'll pick maps or servers first and it'll just pick the right version...

doesn't multimc do that already or something like that

autumn comet Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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earnest birch `gradle init` in project root.

--dsl kotlin, if you want to suffer less

iron lily Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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I've read the updates, how would you say it runs over all on a server?

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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autumn comet --dsl kotlin, if you want to suffer less

how would you pass like

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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Some plugins work, some plugins already have updates to make them work, some aren't updated yet, some will never be updated

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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the pom location argument

autumn comet Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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you literally run the thing in the folder where your project is

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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you need a gradle project first?

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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iron lily I've read the updates, how would you say it runs over all on a server?

It runs like a server

coarse saffron Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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gradle can pick up the pom.xml file and attempt to convert the project for you

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:37 AM

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okay ill give it a shot

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:38 AM

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init will either create a new project or prompt to convert

coarse saffron Dec 1, 2021, 12:38 AM

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not sure if it just happens or if you have to specify a command line argument

languid shuttle Dec 1, 2021, 12:38 AM

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vapid prawn Some plugins work, some plugins already have updates to make them work, some are...

Hm I'll try 1.18 in testbench with plugins then, ty

coarse saffron Dec 1, 2021, 12:38 AM

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yeah gradle is pretty smart so probably just automatic

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:38 AM

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bruh why does git bash not support windows directories in 2021

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:38 AM

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it does?

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:38 AM

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wat

earnest birch Dec 1, 2021, 12:38 AM

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autumn comet --dsl kotlin, if you want to suffer less

Without the param it will ask if I remember right.

autumn comet Dec 1, 2021, 12:38 AM

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The newer versions of init allow you to specify what kind your project is, e.g. a library, standalone etc

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:39 AM

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if you mean access windows directories, you can already do that in git bash lol

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:39 AM

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I think they mean they can't type C: to change drives and such in git bash

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:39 AM

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ah

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:39 AM

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Because it's bash, not DOS

autumn comet Dec 1, 2021, 12:39 AM

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earnest birch Without the param it will ask if I remember right.

Idk, when I used it the first time, there we no instructions at all, but it improved a lot

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:39 AM

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/c/ or something, generally

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:39 AM

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uhhh

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oh i cant cd because there is a spac

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whats the placeholder

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:39 AM

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\

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Or just wrap it in quotes

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:39 AM

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okie

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how

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iron lily Dec 1, 2021, 12:40 AM

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Would you recommend using this on a public server? Or would you recommend waiting a few days? I've read the announcements and would just like to double check

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:40 AM

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install gradle...

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:40 AM

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i swear ive installed gradle like 8 times by now

static perch Dec 1, 2021, 12:40 AM

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iron lily Would you recommend using this on a public server? Or would you recommend waitin...

No 😭😭

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:40 AM

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i've read the announcements

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Seriously you're taking the piss now

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The channel with all of the info literally fucking answers that in clear text

iron lily Dec 1, 2021, 12:41 AM

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Yeah, don't forget to make backups, if it automatically backs up what's the danger? I get something could go wrong.

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Actually, nevermind I'm just gonna wait a few days

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:41 AM

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I mean

iron lily Dec 1, 2021, 12:42 AM

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it's probably safer

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:42 AM

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if you have backups, you may need to restore a backup

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our recommendations stand

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you are more than welcome to run the server knowing that you may need to restore a backup

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But, all of this info is literally out there and 100% on you to make your own judgement call

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:42 AM

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just a fair warning, test your backups before

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:43 AM

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if you haven't tested your backups, you don't have backups

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:43 AM

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^

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i didnt test them once, and that time i really needed them, didnt work, now i test everytime no matter what

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:44 AM

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yeah that's a lesson you learn only once lol
(that, and making backups in the first place)

earnest birch Dec 1, 2021, 12:46 AM

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autumn comet Idk, when I used it the first time, there we no instructions at all, but it impr...

It is guided perfectly.

╰─ gradle init
Starting a Gradle Daemon (subsequent builds will be faster)

Found a Maven build. Generate a Gradle build from this? (default: yes) [yes, no] yes

Select build script DSL:
  1: Groovy
  2: Kotlin
Enter selection (default: Groovy) [1..2] 2


> Task :init
Maven to Gradle conversion is an incubating feature.
Get more help with your project: https://docs.gradle.org/6.8.3/userguide/migrating_from_maven.html

BUILD SUCCESSFUL in 47s
2 actionable tasks: 2 executed

Sorry for the wall of text

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:46 AM

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btw paperweight-userdev either doesn't work with groovy or is more annoying to use

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 12:46 AM

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its more annoying

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:46 AM

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So good call choosing kotlin

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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I really knife a cat knife emoji thingy

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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what

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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He has stabbing on the brain

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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Well, need, but, I misbrainted and kept it

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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Because he wants to stab your brain

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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misbrainted

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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cat just wants to knife cat knife emoji

slow haven Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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dumb as fuck question, how does one do backups?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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eeerrrr

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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google

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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create a zip

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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borg ❤️

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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use fancy things like rdiff

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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There are a bunch of ways, the easiest is to just shut down the server and copy the files somewhere every so often

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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(if on linux)

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:47 AM

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Like, theres many dozens of ways to create backups

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 12:48 AM

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slow haven dumb as fuck question, how does one do backups?

copypasta

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:48 AM

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if windows, just, I recommendnot using windows

paper herald Dec 1, 2021, 12:48 AM

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hello, im using the experiental version and my server crashed. where may i send the crash report? im told its useful here to the devs?

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:48 AM

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here's good

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.paste

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(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 12:48 AM

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paper herald hello, im using the experiental version and my server crashed. where may i send ...

use a paste service and paste it here

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:48 AM

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https://paste.gg

New · paste.gg

A sensible, modern pastebin. Share text and source code snippets with no hassle.

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:48 AM

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windows 11 dev channel with paper 👁️

worthy thunder Dec 1, 2021, 12:48 AM

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~~good bot~~

gilded ice Dec 1, 2021, 12:48 AM

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[19:45:31 ERROR]: Could not load 'plugins/craftbook-3.10.5-SNAPSHOT-dist.jar' in folder 'plugins'

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:49 AM

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I mean, the reason why it failed to load will generally be after that

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We're not magicians, shamefully

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:49 AM

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just learn magic

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ez

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:49 AM

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The error is going to mean "craftbook needs to be updated" almost guaranteed

slow haven Dec 1, 2021, 12:49 AM

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im using linux as a host rn

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:49 AM

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(either that or craftbook borked something)

slow haven Dec 1, 2021, 12:50 AM

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so just use p7zip?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:50 AM

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I mean, I love rsnapshot because ez to automate

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But, er, manual zipping works

static perch Dec 1, 2021, 12:50 AM

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Yes I snapshot mine

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:50 AM

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I mean pretty much anything is easy to automate on linux

gilded ice Dec 1, 2021, 12:50 AM

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/b3a3dca9240745529345b4479be98d0d

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:50 AM

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cron -> script

slow haven Dec 1, 2021, 12:50 AM

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cant get cron to work

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:50 AM

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Well, yea, but you write pretty config, schedule cron, it does stuff and deals with incremental backups for you, etc

slow haven Dec 1, 2021, 12:50 AM

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lol

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:51 AM

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Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/sk89q/craftbook/bukkit/bstats/charts/CustomChart

lucid current Dec 1, 2021, 12:51 AM

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Do you know if the new world height will increase worlds sizes?

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:51 AM

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it will

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:51 AM

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I mean, either you grabbed the wrong jar or that thing is mega bork

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:51 AM

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might've been unshaded

slow haven Dec 1, 2021, 12:51 AM

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ill take a look at rsnapshot

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:51 AM

#

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which do i pick 😍

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:51 AM

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kt

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:51 AM

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I swaer you're taking the piss...

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:51 AM

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dapper lotus Well, yea, but you write pretty config, schedule cron, it does stuff and deals w...

You take backups without doing save-off first?

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:52 AM

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wait gradle is kotlin?

lavish sand Dec 1, 2021, 12:52 AM

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How do you create a server jar for 1.18? ./gradlew paperclipjar doesn't seem to be a thing anymore

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:52 AM

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boy what the hell boy

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:52 AM

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peak pulsar which do i pick 😍

We just had this conversation...

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:52 AM

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lavish sand How do you create a server jar for 1.18? `./gradlew paperclipjar` doesn't seem t...

#❗-1-18

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 12:52 AM

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./gradlew createReobfPaperclipJar

paper herald Dec 1, 2021, 12:52 AM

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do i just send the link to the paste?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Yes

paper herald Dec 1, 2021, 12:52 AM

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/bf41c945a56e4764a045cbc68bdd5057

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:52 AM

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amar; Er, At one point when I was too lazy, yes

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eventually I did fix that doe

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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Wait how did you trigger an AssertionError?

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I thought those only happened if you set a JVM flag

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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Those TRAP things generally means that some plugin did something which caused the server to shit bricks post event

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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cb adds a thrown AssertionError

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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that's a spigot thing

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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why is it build.gradle.kts instead of build.gradle

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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because it's kotlin

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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kts

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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it uses the kotlin dsl

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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how do i not

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it didnt give me a neither

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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You don't not

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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Wolvereness would never allow us to make CraftBukkit manually throw an AssertionError 🙂

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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Dude

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:53 AM

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kotlin :D

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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That either happened before us or after us

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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that's literally what it fucking asked you

spring prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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Sorry

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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it asked you groovy or kotlin

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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yeah

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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Kotlin is the modern magical thing which is what everybody is using now

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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is .gradle plain groovy then?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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groovy build scripts suck ass

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yes

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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ive never seen .kts ever

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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-.-

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Paper literally uses kts.

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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now you have!

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:54 AM

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It's been a thing for like 6 years now

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:55 AM

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people are slowly flocking away from the groovy stuff

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:55 AM

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okay im all gradled up

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all buttered up

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how do i get the paper thingy doodle

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:55 AM

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is this going to be a blobspoonfeed fest

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 12:56 AM

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The kotlin version is slightly less expressive but the IDE can give you autocomplete and error messages that actually tell you what you did wrong instead of trying to trace an error through gradle itself after the fact

half walrusBOT Dec 1, 2021, 12:56 AM

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https://github.com/jpenilla/paperweight-test-plugin

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:56 AM

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spoon feeding gradle 🤔

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https://github.com/jpenilla/paperweight-test-plugin/blob/master/build.gradle.kts

GitHub

paperweight-test-plugin/build.gradle.kts at master · jpenilla/paper...

Contribute to jpenilla/paperweight-test-plugin development by creating an account on GitHub.

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:57 AM

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i still need to update my plugins to gradle

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:57 AM

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only diff here seems to be

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paperDevBundle

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:57 AM

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and the settings file

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:57 AM

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um yes the frantically searching settings file

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:57 AM

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the main thing i need to update is my fork of venturechat, because for some reason the dev made it with maven

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:57 AM

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settings.gradle.kts

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:58 AM

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it looks like a useless file

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didnt figure it was the settings

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:58 AM

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gentle carbon the main thing i need to update is my fork of venturechat, because for some reas...

actually originally, it was made without any build tools for like 5 years

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:58 AM

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it... literally has settings in its name

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:58 AM

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rocky nest actually originally, it was made without any build tools for like 5 years

what

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 12:58 AM

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what was that chat plugin that had sql injection

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:58 AM

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just compiled it without any build tools??

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:58 AM

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also venturechat 😛

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 12:59 AM

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i had to fork it because it canceled the chat event and i needed to edit the chat event

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 12:59 AM

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yeah that's not surprising lol

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 12:59 AM

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it's annoying that plugins do that

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but, when you consider that spigot STILL doesn't support modern chat...

gentle carbon Dec 1, 2021, 1:00 AM

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...and likely never will

rocky nest Dec 1, 2021, 1:00 AM

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that was like the biggest problem in DiscordSRV support, since like half the chat plugins cancel chat to send their own

tender gale Dec 1, 2021, 1:02 AM

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vapid prawn On the fly chunk migrations are more likely to cause performance hiccups on spig...

okay, so on paper there are less reasons to force upgrade, but other than that, why it shouldn't be used?

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 1:02 AM

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wait

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 1:02 AM

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tender gale okay, so on paper there are less reasons to force upgrade, but other than that, ...

apparently borks things in retrogen

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 1:02 AM

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spigot doesn';t have async chunk loading???

paper herald Dec 1, 2021, 1:02 AM

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/79ca5d2bd59d4f0986e887fcf87c608d

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:02 AM

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don't force upgrade

gilded ice Dec 1, 2021, 1:02 AM

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gilded ice https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/b3a3dca9240745529345b4479be98d0d

I'm using the right jar

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:03 AM

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I already explained it

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You probs have a plugin doing stuff it's not happy with

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oh, wait

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stripMeta

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Create an issue on the tracker I guess

gilded ice Dec 1, 2021, 1:03 AM

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you mean incompatible plugin

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:03 AM

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Well, at first that's what it looked like

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but, looking at it again, that looks like an issue related to a recent change in paper

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 1:04 AM

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Make an issue with the log on top and reference it to this chat weebravemove

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 1:06 AM

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Would probably help to include your playerdata as well

split steppe Dec 1, 2021, 1:07 AM

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the light engine leaf patch is on the build?

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 1:07 AM

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how do i download paperweightdevbungle

gilded ice Dec 1, 2021, 1:08 AM

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the developer told me that effectively part of the jar is missing

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 1:08 AM

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that sounds bad I think

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:08 AM

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Well, soooo

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You have the correct jar, but the correct jar is screwed

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wait for them to fix it, i guess 🤷‍♂️

gilded ice Dec 1, 2021, 1:10 AM

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maybe something in building happened

unkempt dew Dec 1, 2021, 1:12 AM

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so im real unfamiliar with plugins around the time of release with all the experimental stuff. does anyone know if theres a plugin that works with the current experimental 1.18 stuff for displaying a web map?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:13 AM

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I mean

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the number of plugins which do that doesn't magically change on release

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as for if they support 1.18, try it

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 1:13 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/try-it-out-for-yourself-and-see-if-it-works-for-you-andrew-baena-lets-try-and-see-if-it-suitable-for-you-lets-see-if-it-works-for-you-gif-22576920

Tenor

unkempt dew Dec 1, 2021, 1:13 AM

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👍

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 1:13 AM

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stripMeta is going to be in the call path for every ItemStack going to a packet other than inventories

unkempt dew Dec 1, 2021, 1:13 AM

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will do

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 1:14 AM

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But in this case it does look like stripMeta setting the count is wrong

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 1:31 AM

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just had our first server crash

half walrusBOT Dec 1, 2021, 1:32 AM

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https://paste.gg/

New · paste.gg

A sensible, modern pastebin. Share text and source code snippets with no hassle.

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 1:32 AM

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yeah ik

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where can we dump our logs? xD

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idk how to replicate the error so it would be hard to make a bug report

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 1:39 AM

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copy and paste the logs into paste.gg, the link provided above

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 1:39 AM

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yes but where do i put that

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 1:40 AM

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....

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 1:40 AM

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if i put it here it will be flooded and missed by paper team

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 1:40 AM

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here...

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 1:40 AM

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like here

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 1:40 AM

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🙃

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:41 AM

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We're literally watching the channel...

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 1:41 AM

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/7040f68bbad34474953199b525df4e33

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chat goes fast sometimes idk

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 1:41 AM

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any plugins?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:42 AM

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that's apparently you MM

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 1:42 AM

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yeah, maybe

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:42 AM

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I'm guessing that some equipment just popped

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 1:42 AM

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For some reason it's trying to set the count of a ItemStack.EMPTY

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:42 AM

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and so, it's sending a new empty stack

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 1:42 AM

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the player said she was blocking water in a lush cave

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not sure if its related but thats all i got

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 1:42 AM

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probably need to skip the stripMeta if its an empty itemstack

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 1:43 AM

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Yeah I was just delving into the code and thought that was the best route

tawny lance Dec 1, 2021, 1:43 AM

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I was wondering have people already tested skipping versions? Like 1.16 world to 1.18? Or even lower?

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 1:43 AM

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im gonna see if I can repro it first

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:43 AM

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skipping versions works fine

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 1:43 AM

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If you do end up reproing it MM I'm curious what exactly causes it

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:43 AM

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I just said

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 1:44 AM

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as long as you aren't coming from a prehistoric version

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:44 AM

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item became air, probs because poof

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even prehistoric

tawny lance Dec 1, 2021, 1:44 AM

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thanks electroniccat

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:44 AM

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mojang just puts the new data conversion logic over the old ones

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 1:45 AM

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was pretty sure if you were before (i think 1.7) you had to migrate to that first

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 1:45 AM

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simply pressing Q over an equipped armor item doesnt cause it

polar quarry Dec 1, 2021, 1:45 AM

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dapper lotus skipping versions works fine

im about to upgrade this 0.29_02 world to 1.18 just to prove something will break

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:46 AM

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p o p p e d

tawny lance Dec 1, 2021, 1:46 AM

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Thats a classic joke

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 1:46 AM

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Yeah like the item broke and turned to air I think is what cat is saying

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:46 AM

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get a sword, set durability to basically gone

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 1:46 AM

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ok, I didnt know that's what popped meant 😅

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 1:47 AM

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Hmm, I just broke an item and it didn't do anything

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 1:47 AM

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yeah, didnt happen for me either

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:48 AM

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hm

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 1:48 AM

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It's definitely being caused by an item that should exist but all of a sudden doesn't

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 1:48 AM

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@grave charm while you are here. Your vanilla tweak work out of box. I was surprised!

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:48 AM

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I mean, it's the logic which goes down that path

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So, it's gonna be some item basically going poof in some manner

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 1:48 AM

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what about elytra? they dont break when they break do they?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:49 AM

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Yea

merry scaffold Dec 1, 2021, 1:49 AM

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Have we ruled out a plugin changing logic on some event? Has it been reproduced without plugins first?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:49 AM

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I mean, it's some equipment slot item thing which disappeared

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I mean, could be a plugin in that path, that is a fun area

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 1:49 AM

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jayethSweat

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:49 AM

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But, just needs an idiot check to fix that

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 1:51 AM

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Wonder if invseeing someone and taking an item would do it

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 1:53 AM

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merry scaffold Have we ruled out a plugin changing logic on some event? Has it been reproduced ...

i only have luckperms and spark on the server

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 1:54 AM

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Trying to think of other instances where an item goes poof

merry scaffold Dec 1, 2021, 1:54 AM

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Then it's probably not plugin-related, which might help narrow it down a little.

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 1:54 AM

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tossing in lava maybe?

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 1:54 AM

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do yk what the player was doing besides the equipment broke?

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by chance

merry scaffold Dec 1, 2021, 1:55 AM

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@hasty grail

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 1:56 AM

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hasty grail the player said she was blocking water in a lush cave

.

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would the crash report have more info perhaps?

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 1:56 AM

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possibly

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 1:56 AM

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no

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 1:57 AM

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the crash log has the exact player location

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 1:57 AM

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would a screenshot of the general area help perhaps?

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for poof ideas?

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 1:58 AM

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or like, what was the equipment

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 1:59 AM

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/10bf03f791284577924a792e72bf0c8b

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the location looks fine... i see nothing at all

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 2:00 AM

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does falling not damage boots anymore?

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 2:00 AM

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https://sirkillian.gg/i/w7kgqykbbc0xc1u3.png

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that block was the one, and it has water above

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 2:00 AM

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It should damage afaik

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maybe only does it on hard?

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so they were just placing a block?

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 2:01 AM

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yeah, idk. I'm just gonna add the empty check

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 2:01 AM

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Yeah I can't think of anything that'd trigger this repeatedly lol

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 2:02 AM

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i cant reproduce it lol

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 2:02 AM

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let me try to replace the exact block xD

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:02 AM

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dey where disconnecting doe

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 2:03 AM

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Yeah the other report crashed on disconnect too

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 2:03 AM

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server just crashed again

static perch Dec 1, 2021, 2:03 AM

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In paper 1.17 you could set the overworld and nether world border to be different things, but this isn't happening in 1.18. In vanilla the overworld and nether world borders are supposed to be the same. If you have the borders set to different values before you switch to 1.18 then the nether world border is locked to whatever it was.

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:04 AM

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yes, vanilla changed the command

olive nacelle Dec 1, 2021, 2:05 AM

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The server seems to crash while preparing the world for me. (Build 14 on the website) https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/bc5bd319557649dab00ac8710688b9fd

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 2:05 AM

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static perch In paper 1.17 you could set the overworld and nether world border to be differen...

I suggest using chunky-border.

raw glen Dec 1, 2021, 2:05 AM

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Is kenny's test server still up?

polar quarry Dec 1, 2021, 2:05 AM

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dapper lotus yes, vanilla changed the command

did vanilla add a world argument (/worldborder world_nether 1234)? how do you change the nether's border now?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:06 AM

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right now you don't unless you have a plugin which will use that API

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 2:06 AM

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here is the second crash: i dont have a log because it failed to log. only have a crash log

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/e56d6e6e338a4ff6876f13543658a898

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:06 AM

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yea, same thing

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somebody DC'd

static perch Dec 1, 2021, 2:06 AM

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polar quarry did vanilla add a world argument (`/worldborder world_nether 1234`)? how do you ...

You can't. According to the wiki they are supposed to be the same since 1.8

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So, unsure if it was intended or not in previous paper versions, but it is changed now

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 2:07 AM

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the second player was just placing block in the nether trying to block a piglin, no water involved.

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 2:07 AM

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olive nacelle The server seems to crash while preparing the world for me. (Build 14 on the web...

how... I literally tested this?

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I made sure that the flat bedrock did generate

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 2:08 AM

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oh it does crash https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/conunimoli.sql

gilded ice Dec 1, 2021, 2:08 AM

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I've seen problem with shadow refreshing

golden pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 2:08 AM

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olive nacelle The server seems to crash while preparing the world for me. (Build 14 on the web...

Same there.

wide sable Dec 1, 2021, 2:09 AM

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Same on #14

gilded ice Dec 1, 2021, 2:09 AM

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One block cut off in the middle of a wall, looks black as hell until i brake the blocks around

hidden merlin Dec 1, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Anyone know what could come of this issue? I just encountered it in the 1.18 experimental release. https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/5869

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:10 AM

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It's a vanilla issue

last perch Dec 1, 2021, 2:10 AM

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I take it i should not run 1.18 paper just now if i dont want to use backups and just want a clean stable server, How is spigot rn? Is that stable for now?

acoustic burrow Dec 1, 2021, 2:10 AM

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Hey guys, wanted to ask, is this my issue or is this a paper bug~

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:10 AM

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spigot is in the exact same state

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once again, this is day 0

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:11 AM

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last perch I take it i should not run 1.18 paper just now if i dont want to use backups and...

no, nothing is stable. this is literally day 0

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vanilla isn't even 'stable' yet

acoustic burrow Dec 1, 2021, 2:11 AM

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coarse gull Dec 1, 2021, 2:11 AM

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minor issue if anything but https://bin.birdflop.com/atekiqetox.rb
'spawn' is a world that I copied over (was 1.17), added to my 1.18 server, and then used /mv import spawn to add it in. 1.18 worlds are fine

last perch Dec 1, 2021, 2:11 AM

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alright, so i should just run vanilla for the least amount of possible problems?

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for now ofc

acoustic burrow Dec 1, 2021, 2:11 AM

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Just wanted to know whether my world files are just corrupted, or is this just a paper bug (and if I should do anything at the moment)

golden pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 2:11 AM

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acoustic burrow Just wanted to know whether my world files are just corrupted, or is this just a...

Paper #14 bug.

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 2:11 AM

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aand 3rd crash lol

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same issue

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 2:12 AM

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what exactly is the player doing again killian? think i missed it

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 2:12 AM

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so far, all 3 cases were placing block

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2 in overworld, one in nether

topaz nymph Dec 1, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Might this have to do with latest commit?

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arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:13 AM

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was it the last block in their slot by any chance?

topaz nymph Dec 1, 2021, 2:13 AM

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SurfaceRules

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:13 AM

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Yes, it is the last commit

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Known issue

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 2:13 AM

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and a 4th crash instantly 😬
We have been playing for 2 hours and now it really crashes a lot all of the sudden

verbal socket Dec 1, 2021, 2:13 AM

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hey is anyone have ware they cant set a worldboder in the end or nether it say it set the border but tp to x cord and no border?

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 2:13 AM

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can you give a list of steps on what you're doing to crash it

nocturne crystal Dec 1, 2021, 2:14 AM

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c728c78 is the latest right? That's what's showing for me on the downloads page, but /version says I'm behind?

[02:11:09 INFO]: This server is running Paper version git-Paper-10 (MC: 1.18) (Implementing API version 1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT) (Git: c728c78)
You are 4 version(s) behind
Download the new version at: https://papermc.io/downloads

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 2:14 AM

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its other players, im not the one doing it

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:14 AM

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vanilla modified the command to only modify the overworld one

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 2:14 AM

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they all placed blocks tho

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:14 AM

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verbal socket hey is anyone have ware they cant set a worldboder in the end or nether it say i...

vanilla behavior, its known

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:14 AM

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No, that's not latest, you may need to force refresh the page but you may wanna wait a while

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 2:14 AM

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uh then what are they doing? just placing blocks?

gilded ice Dec 1, 2021, 2:14 AM

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gilded ice https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/b3a3dca9240745529345b4479be98d0d

Fixed lasted dev build

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 2:14 AM

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thats the only thing in common

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 2:14 AM

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icic

coarse gull Dec 1, 2021, 2:14 AM

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dapper lotus vanilla modified the command to only modify the overworld one

oh? so how can i change the worldborder in the other worlds?

kindred basalt Dec 1, 2021, 2:15 AM

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go to the world :^)

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:15 AM

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force refreshing is only showing me #11 personally

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:15 AM

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use a plugin or wait until somebody gets to patching it

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 2:15 AM

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verbal socket hey is anyone have ware they cant set a worldboder in the end or nether it say i...

Use chunky-boarders if you want similar to old behavior

vague falcon Dec 1, 2021, 2:15 AM

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nocturne crystal c728c78 is the latest right? That's what's showing for me on the downloads page,...

build 14 is latest, if you dont see it, delete browser cache and reload, force reload didnt cut it for me

static perch Dec 1, 2021, 2:15 AM

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kindred basalt go to the world :^)

This doesn't work anymore

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 2:15 AM

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@static perch read my ping

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Or do as zcat said and wait

nocturne crystal Dec 1, 2021, 2:15 AM

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vague falcon build 14 is latest, if you dont see it, delete browser cache and reload, force r...

jeeezus, that worked. Thanks!

vague falcon Dec 1, 2021, 2:15 AM

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cool 😄

static perch Dec 1, 2021, 2:15 AM

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I'm not here asking for a solution 🙂 just pointing out the issue and making sure it's known

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 2:15 AM

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It’s something Mojang did

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:16 AM

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basically, not a paper issue so wrong place to report

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 2:16 AM

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I am sure it’s already reported

violet wing Dec 1, 2021, 2:16 AM

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oh did mojang do something to worldborders

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 2:16 AM

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Lol

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:16 AM

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I mean

verbal socket Dec 1, 2021, 2:16 AM

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feral spire Use chunky-boarders if you want similar to old behavior

ok ty 🙂 so is the getting fixed my minecraft? or as is this how it going to be?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:16 AM

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it's an intentional change from what I've heard

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 2:16 AM

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@violet wing you can’t set border in anything other than overworld

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Lol

violet wing Dec 1, 2021, 2:16 AM

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wot

covert jolt Dec 1, 2021, 2:16 AM

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this is the only time the test server broke

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sadge

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:16 AM

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world border in the nether gets weird so I wouldn't be surprised if they just refused to not wanna deal with some issues it causes

violet wing Dec 1, 2021, 2:16 AM

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who thought that was a good idea

abstract walrus Dec 1, 2021, 2:17 AM

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When your server is using 11GB of ram while idle

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 2:17 AM

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Fix your flags

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:17 AM

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abstract walrus When your server is using 11GB of ram while idle

did you tell it that it could?

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 2:17 AM

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If you don’t want it to use 11G

abstract walrus Dec 1, 2021, 2:17 AM

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Can you send the flag sting or something?

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:17 AM

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/flags

vague falcon Dec 1, 2021, 2:17 AM

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sting

abstract walrus Dec 1, 2021, 2:17 AM

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arctic oracle did you tell it that it could?

I told it 16GB of ram

dark wigeon Dec 1, 2021, 2:17 AM

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it's ok if it's using everything you give it, that's how java works...

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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.flags

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doesnt work anymore?

vague falcon Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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we dont got irc here sad

hasty grail Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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what build was the test server on michael?

abstract walrus Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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Flags is not a command

merry scaffold Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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https://startmc.sh/

startmc.sh

Generate a Minecraft server start script in seconds.

timber ridge Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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hasty grail what build was the test server on michael?

It builds from git.

paper musk Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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help?

📎 crash-2021-11-30_21.16.53-server.txt

vivid ironBOT Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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paper musk help?

crash-2021-11-30_21.16.53-server.txt by @paper musk: https://paste.gg/8b29ecdbe78a4150b0d90283176a2698

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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known issue

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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abstract walrus Can you send the flag sting or something?

.startmc

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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use a build before the flat bedrock thing

golden pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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paper musk help?

#14 known issue.

paper musk Dec 1, 2021, 2:18 AM

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golden pulsar #14 known issue.

yes

dark wigeon Dec 1, 2021, 2:19 AM

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"yes"

inland tangle Dec 1, 2021, 2:19 AM

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-Dpaperclip.install=true doesn't work for me in 1.18? Is there a fix?

merry scaffold Dec 1, 2021, 2:19 AM

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It was removed

quasi panther Dec 1, 2021, 2:19 AM

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paper musk yes

that means "use #13 instead"

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:19 AM

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inland tangle -Dpaperclip.install=true doesn't work for me in 1.18? Is there a fix?

no longer supported

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:19 AM

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SULU

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I WILL FITE YOU

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:20 AM

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WOT?

plain solstice Dec 1, 2021, 2:20 AM

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paperOhhh

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:20 AM

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Me and sulu where tryna change the labels on some stuff on the github at the same time

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kinda boom

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:21 AM

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oh, lol. thought github was supposed to prevent that XD

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:21 AM

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github, not git

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:21 AM

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dont know what you are talking about * runs *

quasi panther Dec 1, 2021, 2:22 AM

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github the website doesn't, github the git repo hosting service does; the labels are a website thing, not a code thing

languid harbor Dec 1, 2021, 2:22 AM

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git is the universal commandline software / protocol used for version management. Github is a website that implements Git and allows people to store their git repositories on the internet. Obviously more complex than that but that's the basis

quasi panther Dec 1, 2021, 2:23 AM

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not universal

languid harbor Dec 1, 2021, 2:23 AM

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By universal I mean it works with more than just Github

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there are other sites that allow you to store Git Repos

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:23 AM

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they said git was

quasi panther Dec 1, 2021, 2:23 AM

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there's also svn, perforce, and mercurial, none of which are git or use the git model

gilded ice Dec 1, 2021, 2:23 AM

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Git lab

versed cairn Dec 1, 2021, 2:23 AM

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idk if this is the right channel or not, but im trying to start a new 1.18 paperMC world. it crashes randomly but within a 5-10 minute window of startup with 1 player afk the whole time. any ideas?

📎 crash-2021-11-30_21.15.37-server.txt

vivid ironBOT Dec 1, 2021, 2:24 AM

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versed cairn idk if this is the right channel or not, but im trying to start a new 1.18 paper...

crash-2021-11-30_21.15.37-server.txt by @versed cairn: https://paste.gg/29e0a941bb2641ac9909e2782a62c0a9

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:24 AM

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I mean, there are other tools but git is basically like, the big one these days

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known issue, use build 13

languid harbor Dec 1, 2021, 2:24 AM

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quasi panther there's also svn, perforce, and mercurial, none of which are git or use the git ...

Ok fair, there are other version management tools that are popular and in use. I was mostly just meaning that git works across websites and isn't just a Github thing tho haha. Aka you can use other sites like GitLab or BitBucket without having to change to a different software package

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Poor choice of words, I'll accept that haha

versed cairn Dec 1, 2021, 2:26 AM

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versed cairn idk if this is the right channel or not, but im trying to start a new 1.18 paper...

here is another one, again. brand new world, only one afk player

📎 crash-2021-11-30_21.06.51-server.txt

vivid ironBOT Dec 1, 2021, 2:26 AM

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versed cairn here is another one, again. brand new world, only one afk player

crash-2021-11-30_21.06.51-server.txt by @versed cairn: https://paste.gg/4e8cb30d227b4adfa1df8868bad61e39

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:26 AM

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Read.

golden pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 2:26 AM

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I think you guys should use reply feature to users otherwise they will miss your answer because of flood.

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:26 AM

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flood

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literally less than a few messages each minute

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if that's too much for you to follow, you probs shouldn't be using day 0 builds...

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:27 AM

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alternatively, if they stop breaking things there wont be a flood think_smart

past barn Dec 1, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Ive been watching this channel for a few hours now there is not a flood of messages

granite sparrow Dec 1, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Or you could actually report them on GitHub

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 2:27 AM

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arctic oracle alternatively, if they stop breaking things there wont be a flood <:think_smart:...

You are literally using a experimental build… stuff will get broken …

languid harbor Dec 1, 2021, 2:27 AM

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Threads could be a useful thing in this channel in particular for keeping info related to an ongoing issue in one place. Probably not necessary tho since there's really not a lot of overload.

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:28 AM

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feral spire You are literally using a experimental build… stuff will get broken …

is joke?

golden pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Anyways different conversations in the same time, so, whatever how i'm called that.

vague falcon Dec 1, 2021, 2:28 AM

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Oh I predicted this!

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#❗-1-18-experimental message

feral spire Dec 1, 2021, 2:28 AM

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OMEGALUL

quasi panther Dec 1, 2021, 2:28 AM

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arctic oracle is joke?

not a joke, just because the code builds doesn't mean it's bug-free

languid harbor Dec 1, 2021, 2:29 AM

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arctic oracle is joke?

I mean it's a fair assessment. An experimental build is in-progress. It's not a final product and so there's definitely going to be things that are broken. Implementing new features and dealing with upstream code changes is always going to introduce bugs that need to be worked through before the final product is released.

lusty pawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:29 AM

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Hey fellas, anyone got an idea for crashing here? Tossed the Paper 1.18 jar with no world

https://bin.bloom.host/acomikunub

Bloom.host

Hastebin for Bloom.host

A bloom themed hastebin for your paste sharing needs :)

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:29 AM

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wait for next build

lusty pawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:29 AM

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I get its buggy, but curious why I can't even get a startup on a clean slate

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:29 AM

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languid harbor I mean it's a fair assessment. An experimental build is in-progress. It's not ...

was saying i was attempting a funny.

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:30 AM

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is bug

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Because a bug happened in the gen code

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some random oddity occured and thus a bug was introduced

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it's been fixed now

lusty pawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Whose replying to who I'm confused cryingpepe

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Also the problem with replies is I have to use my mouse

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:30 AM

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lusty pawn I get its buggy, but curious why I can't even get a startup on a clean slate

because its buggy

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Welcome to software dvelopment.

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:30 AM

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wtf kind of chat program makes you use your mouse?

modern pendant Dec 1, 2021, 2:30 AM

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when

languid harbor Dec 1, 2021, 2:30 AM

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Out of everything I'm not surprised that there's a bug with the worldgen code considering there were some pretty significant changes to world generation with 1.18.

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:31 AM

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It's a paper bug

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Someone tried to modify the worldgen code and didn't do a good job of it 😄

dark wigeon Dec 1, 2021, 2:31 AM

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vapid prawn wtf kind of chat program makes you use your mouse?

/reply when

half walrusBOT Dec 1, 2021, 2:31 AM

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__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

vague falcon Dec 1, 2021, 2:31 AM

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what lol

topaz nymph Dec 1, 2021, 2:31 AM

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vapid prawn Someone tried to modify the worldgen code and didn't do a good job of it 😄

Well it was a paperweight issue.

versed cairn Dec 1, 2021, 2:31 AM

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lusty pawn Whose replying to who I'm confused <a:cryingpepe:822050285198901289>

yeah, if only discord had a reply feature

topaz nymph Dec 1, 2021, 2:31 AM

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So they did fine it's just a weird inconsistency appeared...

languid harbor Dec 1, 2021, 2:31 AM

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vapid prawn Someone tried to modify the worldgen code and didn't do a good job of it 😄

Ah well rip then. Time to rollback that commit lmao

topaz nymph Dec 1, 2021, 2:32 AM

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A fix was pushed already

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:32 AM

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literally already fixed

lusty pawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:32 AM

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Ah, thats why I cant get it rolling

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Cheers

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:32 AM

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Ah, so this was a testing issue then 😄

topaz nymph Dec 1, 2021, 2:32 AM

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I mean, https://github.com/PaperMC/paperweight/issues/122

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:32 AM

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If starting a new server triggers it...

zealous idol Dec 1, 2021, 2:32 AM

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imagine testing in prod

quasi panther Dec 1, 2021, 2:32 AM

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i do that all the time lulz

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 2:32 AM

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living life on the edge

solid goblet Dec 1, 2021, 2:33 AM

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haha very funny !!!!!!!

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 2:33 AM

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I tested it!!!

solid goblet Dec 1, 2021, 2:33 AM

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cat_neutral

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 2:33 AM

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it only happens with a reobf server

solid goblet Dec 1, 2021, 2:33 AM

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machine breaker

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 2:33 AM

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and I was testing on mojmapped

languid harbor Dec 1, 2021, 2:33 AM

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I mean at least things weren't tested in release lmao. It is an experimental build

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:33 AM

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Oh no this could happen on any build

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That's why you shouldn't use those dumb scripts that automatically update Paper on server startup

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Like, we try to test stuff, but, I mean, shit happens

languid harbor Dec 1, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Well yeah, but I expect that there are a few more tests that are run before an actual official release is released

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:34 AM

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vapid prawn That's why you shouldn't use those dumb scripts that automatically update Paper ...

lost an entire server that way once

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:34 AM

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Theres always somebody out there willing to test your code in production more than you could prior

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:34 AM

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languid harbor Well yeah, but I expect that there are a few more tests that are run before an a...

Literally none at all

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(there I used the reply feature)

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:34 AM

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I mean, theres literally no magical testing framework for mc

versed cairn Dec 1, 2021, 2:34 AM

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vapid prawn That's why you shouldn't use those dumb scripts that automatically update Paper ...

yeah, thats why my servers never go passed 1.12, who needs to update anyways

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:35 AM

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partially tell a lie

topaz nymph Dec 1, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Some need to remember here that 1.18 is still very much experimental. 🙂

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Mojang added their own testing framework but it's more mechnical testing

pallid merlin Dec 1, 2021, 2:35 AM

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versed cairn yeah, thats why my servers never go passed 1.12, who needs to update anyways

1.12? Too modern, better use 1.8

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:35 AM

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(and then you're still gotta have people writing tests)

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:35 AM

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How MM tested that PR is how most/all of them would get tested so that bug could have happened on build #200

versed cairn Dec 1, 2021, 2:35 AM

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pallid merlin 1.12? Too modern, better use 1.8

true, true

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 2:35 AM

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yeah, I always am using mojmapped servers

lethal warren Dec 1, 2021, 2:35 AM

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I think I may have found a possible issue with 1.18-14, has something been reported yet?

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:35 AM

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beta 1.7 or I sleep

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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yeah probably

lethal warren Dec 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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📎 message.txt

vivid ironBOT Dec 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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lethal warren

message.txt by @lethal warren: https://paste.gg/ba07392547b5459fa373dc37e7200117

grave charm Dec 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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wait for 15, should be now or a min or two

long edge Dec 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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lethal warren I think I may have found a possible issue with 1.18-14, has something been repor...

yes, it's been fixed with build 15. There was an issue in reobf

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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paper mc team doesn't have ready for production, stable release made? after 1 day of the vanilla release? unacceptable.

lethal warren Dec 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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Great, just making sure it was noticed!

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Thanks

solid goblet Dec 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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comedy gold, very original

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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thanks i try

feral flume Dec 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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pallid merlin 1.12? Too modern, better use 1.8

-1.12
-1.13
-1.14
-1.15
-1.16
+1.17
+1.18

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:36 AM

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paper never has ready for production stable releases made

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Just ones they haven't heard are broken

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No one is doing professional QA on this stuff

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 2:37 AM

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it's all stable until broken~

quasi panther Dec 1, 2021, 2:37 AM

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as a professional, we don't do enough QA either HYPERLUL

arctic oracle Dec 1, 2021, 2:37 AM

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i mean, i have had #10 running for the last 6 hours doing a render with no issues...

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:37 AM

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Dude my yarn test is literally just true on my current project

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:38 AM

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well, yea, recent changes which mostly introduced some derps

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and, yea, unit testing is "fun"

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especially as most of what we test literally isn't our code

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Do you know how to test code for thread safety issues?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:38 AM

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I could only imagine our CI if it was doing like an hour of testing per commit

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Neither does anyone else in the world

stuck mural Dec 1, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Paper devs are incredible. Didn’t imagine any builds this soon after the release. Super excited :)

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:38 AM

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Easy

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Push it into a minecraft server

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some plugin dev will eventually find out for you

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 2:39 AM

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anyone know how to pregen world 1.18?

vapid prawn Dec 1, 2021, 2:39 AM

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chunky

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 2:39 AM

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I have tests for my Elixir project go upwards of 10 minutes

stuck mural Dec 1, 2021, 2:39 AM

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peak pulsar anyone know how to pregen world 1.18?

Chunky

warm ravine Dec 1, 2021, 2:39 AM

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Those are fuuun

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 2:40 AM

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sorry, I meant in a server for 1.18..

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or should I just port from singleplayer to multiplayer?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:40 AM

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I mean, chunky

zealous idol Dec 1, 2021, 2:40 AM

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dae say chunky yet?

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:40 AM

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singleplayer doesn't have pregen...

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 2:40 AM

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does chunky work in multiplayer servers?

heavy creek Dec 1, 2021, 2:41 AM

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ya it's a plugin

dapper lotus Dec 1, 2021, 2:41 AM

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It's literally a plugin for servers

peak pulsar Dec 1, 2021, 2:41 AM

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Ooo thank you

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was looking at wrong page

quasi panther Dec 1, 2021, 2:43 AM

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ohaider #15