❗-1-18-experimental

[wise vine]

epilepsy trigger

[peak pulsar]

pov: you ```csharp
while = !1-18-experimental

[shut heath]

[long edge]

#❗-1-18

[peak pulsar]

i didnt see the gif

[long edge]

will be another one there soon

[spark basin]

Can't wait

[peak pulsar]

i tohugght it was the guy blinking

[ember berry]

this discord has blinking gifs tho

[long edge]

it was deleted because it blinked very fast

[wise vine]

na, flashing background

[mental rapids]

oh no our boy @unique basin

[unique basin]

hi bt

[peak pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-huh-what-really-gif-7953610

[unique basin]

sup sexy man

[peak pulsar]

everyone /eta

/eta

L

[lone spear]

L

[ember berry]

L

[zealous musk]

L

[dense river]

!kick @zealous musk Spam

[wheat heart]

:raised_hands: Kicked KayaLambrechts#0001 (Spam) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.

[dense river]

!kick @ember berry Spam

[wheat heart]

:raised_hands: Kicked NotClay#0001 (Spam) [1 total infraction] -- aurora#4484.

[dense river]

!kick @unique basin Spam

[wheat heart]

:raised_hands: Kicked Auxilor#0001 (Spam) [3 total infractions] -- aurora#4484.

[lone spear]

Oh :(

[cloud phoenix]

lmao

[dense river]

!kick @peak pulsar Spam

[peak pulsar]

Jesus

[wheat heart]

:raised_hands: Kicked chuckycheese#6181 (Spam) [4 total infractions] -- aurora#4484.

[dense river]

I'm tired.

[peak pulsar]

bruh

[dense river]

Stop the spamming

[unique basin]

bruh

[autumn comet]

Why does everyone want to be a nausea on purpose? lmao

[zealous musk]

[peak pulsar]

why so many kicks

[wispy storm]

holy crap people stop.

[mental rapids]

full server reset, rebuild of 2 modded server and vanilla bs xD, same old same old lol

[dense river]

The next time it will be bans.

[unique basin]

doing a full server reset for mine as well

[ember berry]

yikes

[finite knoll]

nausea on purpose?

[acoustic burrow]

You guys treat Kenny like a robot

How could you paper team

[mental rapids]

half done with your eco enchants configs xD, waited till last min because tendinitus lol

[unique basin]

done most of the changes, gonna add some stuff to ecoarmor/ecoweapons and then see if iris adds the extra world height stuff

[feral spire]

Sub to kneny!

[unique basin]

lol

[autumn comet]

He gets treated like he deserves

[unique basin]

already have

[barren oak]

Thank you guys for the hard work

[jaunty ivy]

Cheers paper team for all your work getting this update ready ❤️

[mental rapids]

good thing i didnt redo eco armor yet

[peak pulsar]

Are there any new optimization features unique to paper 1.18 (or even the vanilla jar) you guys know of?

I noticed something with simulation distance

[unique basin]

iirc vanilla added no-tick render

[molten pond]

where can i get the Snapshots?

[topaz nymph]

^ that’s a big one

[lone spear]

Cheers to all the teams that made this possible :p

[naive river]

my 3970X is READY to Blast this 1.18 😂

[unique basin]

not really since it's already in paper

[peak pulsar]

What are the benefits of no tick render exactly?

[topaz nymph]

“Simulation distance”

[boreal apex]

😨

[topaz nymph]

It’s basically papers no tick render distance but in vanilla MC

[peak pulsar]

Oh. Duh sorry lol

[gleaming quartz]

It's not, and AFAIK Paper removed it.

[peak pulsar]

Nvm then

[winged coral]

i just hope theres a lot of terrain gen and chunk loading optimisations as from what i saw it murders your pc loading anything

[unique basin]

welcome to minecraft

[lone spear]

Yeah I didn't even know saying L was spam... Guess the paper server has a strict no shitpost policy

[peak pulsar]

Starlight fixed this for me

[peak pulsar]

even a superflat world?

[timber quail]

i'm so excited!!! I'm about to loose control because i can't wait ❤️ 😄

[peak pulsar]

:troll:

[ember berry]

I was saying L to make fun of the guy for trying to get us to spam

[peak pulsar]

I generated a 10k x 10k world using Starlight and the experimental paper build and it only took about three hours

[ember berry]

got kicked lol

[peak pulsar]

only

That’s good for Java minecraft standards

[boreal apex]

lol yea

[dense river]

This channel is not for spam or shitposting.

[naive river]

how hard is it hitting the HDD I/O when generating the world ? because there is still alot of small server owner that using mechanical hdd VPS out there

[winged coral]

no, but testing the 1.18 snapshots like 2 days ago loading chunks made my mouse freeze and jitter, and im on a 8700k so that says something. it honestly made the game feel disgusting

[ember berry]

understood

[dense river]

I mentioned that multiple times now

[lone spear]

Yeah that makes sense

[cloud phoenix]

its for quiet lurking

[zealous musk]

this is more of a shitpost to be fair

[vestal beacon]

And then devouring any builds that come here to test

[night heron]

is anyone else having issues with bungeecord not allolwing 1.18 connections?

[lone spear]

Lurk or talk like you're on a professional forum (we kind of are on a professional forum)

[coarse saffron]

Paper 1.18 is done, just not released yet

[broken gale]

How much ram is 1.18 taking in servers?

[lean goblet]

dunno, I moved from bungee to velocity 2 weeks ago

[naive river]

server side or client side ?

[tired whale]

Does the API generally get updated at the same time as the website?

[snow hare]

The one who uses 1.18, how much ram does it use?

[winged coral]

that was running just on my client, so singleplayer

[unique basin]

enough for half a tps

[snow hare]

Does it good?

[unique basin]

tps so small it causes floating point precision errors

[lean goblet]

I give it 500min 6G max for up to 20 players, been plenty stable with 16 online, as long as no one is boat racing...

[naive river]

need optifine at least, im running 12900k and still got small stutter on single player

[edgy solar]

how to download 1.18 paper?

[lean goblet]

^^ wait

[dense river]

It isn't out yet

[edgy solar]

oh okay

[wispy storm]

its not ready yet.

[edgy solar]

vanilla is working rn?

[wispy storm]

yes

[oblique sierra]

yea

[edgy solar]

okay thanks

[versed rain]

builds and runs without error so far

[winged coral]

yeah im planning on using a fabric modpack i made for 1.17 that has shader support and gives like 2x OF's Fps. i just need to wait for updates

[unique basin]

aka the iris mod

[winged coral]

yep

[peak pulsar]

Let’s go

[winged coral]

plus like 20 others, but it adds way more than just performance

[unique basin]

wow that was fast

[gusty trench]

What is this for? pre-4 or the release?

[finite knoll]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Build 4

[edgy solar]

pre-4

[lone spear]

1.18.4

[peak pulsar]

no, release

[finite knoll]

I thought so

:)

[oblique sierra]

fake

[glad flower]

yikes

[naive river]

omg

[inner crypt]

please don't share direct links to the download api

[crisp cargo]

Only shows up for api download though, you can’t get it on the download page

[inner crypt]

yes, 1.18 is on the api

[finite knoll]

ah sorry

My bad

[winged coral]

it just confuses me why chkunk loading has such a high priority that it causes my mouse to stutter when im running over 60fps with no dips, its just mouse movement

[muted creek]

Can you DM me the mods you use? I have my own mod pack, but I'm curious what you're using.

[unique basin]

is paperweight userdev updated alongside it or is that separate

[inner crypt]

but we don't want people to hot link it because then they would never update after it

[finite knoll]

yea got it

[edgy solar]

? xD

[peak pulsar]

inb4 support requests with people on build four

[naive river]

guys, what is Simulated Chunks ? i just saw it on server properties

[inner crypt]

https://papermc.io/api

[finite knoll]

It is their version of No Tick View

[bleak violet]

simulated chunks?

[inner crypt]

this is all you need to get a headstart on downloading

[finite knoll]

Its a worse implementation from what I heard?

is it not?

[unique basin]

cough cough getbukkit

[finite knoll]

weird stuff

[peak pulsar]

ew

[unique basin]

ew

you're right

[tired whale]

1.18 is available on the API

[next owl]

its abot drive

[unique basin]

use the codemc nms repo like a normal person

[next owl]

👍 👍

my nickname is a mere disguise

[amber hound]

is there a way to get the updated 1.18 jar with buildtools? it's my first time using it

[unique basin]

use paper

[amber hound]

it isnt out yet lol

[naive river]

this one

[autumn comet]

No

[inner crypt]

getbukkit is evil

[autumn comet]

Let's not post ToS violations here

[peak pulsar]

especially since gb's builds are months ols

[unique basin]

yeah it's a fast way to get an outdated buggy build

[smoky fulcrum]

is the eta like the next few hours or is it more like heat death of the universe?

[half walrus]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[unique basin]

closer to heat death

[inner crypt]

inofficial paper 1.18 test server paper.iptables.sh, come help us test!

[naive river]

how does simulation distance differ from view distance ? do we need to config it ?

[dense forum]

anyone have the link to the spigot version?

[smoky fulcrum]

"Welcome to nginx!"

[lone spear]

Whats the.. crafting recipe.. /s

[dense forum]

make sense

[autumn comet]

The only proper way to obtain it, is using BuildTools. Distribution is prohibited, hence spigot handles it the way it does.

[unique basin]

paperweight 1.18-r0.1 dev bundle error: https://paste.willfp.com/esobavetey.http

[tired whale]

There's a version availabe on the API right now. Says it's git-Paper-4 when I downloaded it. I have a 1.18 server running right now.

[amber hound]

where did you download the .jar?

[mellow belfry]

and now I wait for worldedit

[vague falcon]

the api lol

[vapid prawn]

WE already works I thought

Oh you meant a release

Just grab the latest from their CI 😄

[compact hinge]

has anyone tested 1.17 plugins with 1.18 yet?

[verbal perch]

new jar need java 17 ?

[autumn comet]

yes

[half walrus]

https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[vapid prawn]

They were waiting for a paperlib update for something too but I think that was only for the RCs

[verbal perch]

omg

[hexed panther]

Does 1.17 plugins work on 1.18 that don’t use nms??

[autumn comet]

.try

[vague falcon]

most will work fine if they dont use NMS (I still dont get why plugins still do...)

[dry iron]

Should yes

[hexed panther]

Thx

[half walrus]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[peak pulsar]

custom features that aren't covered by api

[dry iron]

Some biome stuff could break

[lone spear]

I still don't know why NMS is bad since I'm a noob

[hollow stratus]

What's the best plugin to preload à world and set à border 😮 ?

[bleak violet]

just wrote a 2 page update thing for my server

[vapid prawn]

@dry iron I miss this guy

[muted widget]

Hi mbax 👋

[vague falcon]

yeah so just add it to the API so everyone cna use it 😄

[hexed panther]

Chunky

[naive river]

chunky and chunky border

[peak pulsar]

it breaks every update, apart from that its fine

[vague falcon]

/worldborder set ez

[hollow stratus]

Okidooki thx :3

[peak pulsar]

by breaks i mean uh youi gotta go in and fix the names and ur good most of the time

[amber hound]

i use chunky

[subtle belfry]

Wtf olivia what r u doing here

[versed rain]

+1 to chunky as well

[hexed panther]

Hoping NBTAPI updates soon

[amber hound]

chunky should already be compatible with 1.18

do you guys know if chunky is compatible with fabric?

[frank halo]

https://github.com/AlessioGr/ProtocolLib/releases/tag/4.7.0 I went ahead and compiled Protocollib for 1.18 if anyone wants to try and update their plugins already

[spring prawn]

You have to code the same thing for every Mc version

[stone kayak]

Chunky works fine. Ran it on 10k blocks yesterday

[hollow stratus]

Perfect!

[amber hound]

do you guys know if chunky is compatible with fabric?

[clear tapir]

is chunky already available for 1.18?

[stone kayak]

Yes it works for Fabric

[unique basin]

how the hell

you lot are fast

[vague falcon]

noo way gman??

[stone kayak]

Just eats about 10-12G RAM to preload 1.18

[gusty trench]

Instant client crash when connecting to a world with a worldgen datapack, wooo
Mojang moment

[hexed panther]

Datapack

DATAPACK

[frank halo]

The 1.18 PR is already out, I was just faster building the 1.18 nms spigot 😛

Its not in their repo yet

[vapid prawn]

Why is this a fork of a fork doing its own custom release versions that will conflict with the upstream ones?

[amber hound]

then i think i'll go fabric 1.18 + chunky for a lightweight vanilla server, thanks!

[smoky fulcrum]

this means simple voice chat could work?

[candid copper]

link for the 1.18 server.jar?

[half walrus]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[tired whale]

You can download it from the API

[runic pumice]

WHAT

[dusty bluff]

AHAHAHAH

[vague falcon]

i wouldnt recommend it

[red shale]

:/

[candid copper]

lol

[tired whale]

Like everyone is saying though, it's experimental. Mess around with it, but don't expect stability

[feral spire]

wait for official announcement in #announcements please

[frank halo]

I just wanted to upload something temporary already since the upstream repository doesn't have the 1.18 spigot jar yet (https://github.com/dmulloy2/ProtocolLib/actions/runs/1521867058)

[glad flower]

The only downloads available are via the API and they are experimental, first pass a building the new server. Do not use it.

[half walrus]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[versed rain]

~/paper-1.18/build/libs/paper-bundler-1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-reobf.jar is where i got it from 😄

[vague falcon]

You're not gonna get an all clear from us for quite a while. Sure, you can run it, but at what cost? We're unsure yet.

[tired whale]

Some of us are feeling R I S K Y

[terse hamlet]

all blame is put on eternity for the first week

[feral spire]

[warm ravine]

it's ok eternity

[rugged vigil]

Thanks for all the hard1.18 work PaperMC team 😍

[opaque aspen]

which website??

nice

[autumn comet]

!ban 327906969971326976 NSFW

[wheat heart]

:raised_hands: Banned antonstech#9729 (NSFW) [1 total infraction] -- NotMyFault#3732.

[vague falcon]

THIS is what I come back to? lmao

[oblique sierra]

lol

[versed rain]

paper's github, not sure if i'm allowed to post links here

[woven island]

sus

suspicious

[gilded ice]

Ban party 🥳

[wild falcon]

Is the experimental jar for 1.18 out

[inner crypt]

you can get something via the api

[autumn comet]

Just follow #❗-1-18

[dim cosmos]

Love you gang, keep up the amazing work 💜

[subtle belfry]

I havent heard that name in years...

[uneven pagoda]

whitelist :c

[tired whale]

Yes, but wait until they announce. Current builds are very janky.

[wild falcon]

It says stream is offline

[wild falcon]

Yeah ik, I wanna work on updating my plugins.

[dusty bluff]

Yes

[autumn comet]

Follow the channel, not the stream lul

[oblique sierra]

no stream just wait

[versed rain]

works surprisingly well on oracle's java , but i'm probably not fiddling with it good enough

[vague falcon]

We have a whole API docs you can read and enjoy!

[vapid prawn]

Twitch is weird, the channel in #❗-1-18 is hosting https://www.twitch.tv/kennytvn but it doesn't show it for everyone

[wild falcon]

Thanks

[vapid prawn]

Some people have to click the little arrow on the right of the channel banner to see the hosted stream, some don't see it at all

[wild falcon]

Yeah agreed

[opaque aspen]

can u dm the link pls i cant find it

sorry im new to the server hosting stuff

[quick ledge]

If you're new to it, you probably shouldn't be using the experimental build then

[versed rain]

if you aren't aware of the github page, i doubt it's gonna do the trick for you

[vapid prawn]

If they haven't linked a build in #❗-1-18 or on the website yet you should probably be wary of it

[opaque aspen]

i cant find it in the github page

[versed rain]

eh

google papermc github lol

[vapid prawn]

Like, moreso than even a normal early release build

[versed rain]

lacking googleing skills is worse than lacking github ones

[low osprey]

paper 1.18 is done, they just need to deploy the updated website

[vapid prawn]

"done"

[versed rain]

😄

[low osprey]

Thats just going off what KennyTVn just said

[mossy wigeon]

How dare you!

[oblique sierra]

experimental is done

[queen sonnet]

how do i download

[wild falcon]

Not the stable release surely

[glad flower]

Correct

[versed rain]

being runnable and sort-of-stable-ish is far from done 😄

[tawdry briar]

oh no what will i do without paper 1.18.... struggle with a little worse preformance for a few hours on vanilla its whatever

[vapid prawn]

I mean, I would probably run it on a server if I still had one but I also know Java, am familiar with MC and Paper code, did backups every 4 hours, and used logblock

[low osprey]

He said that its "done" but you wont be able to run a stable build yet

[tired whale]

If you don't know how by now, you probably shouldn't be messing with experimental versions lol. Just wait for the announcement.

[meager violet]

Just let them use it they gotta learn some how

[oblique sierra]

just eat some lunch

[lean goblet]

you should always deploy dev builds to your servers!

[versed rain]

github page is straightforward, i honestly expected it to be way harder

[frank halo]

Can you build the server jar with ./gradlew applyPatches and then ./gradlew remapJar ?

[wild falcon]

Yeah

[versed rain]

gradlew createReobfBundlerJar

[gusty trench]

^

[frank halo]

oooh I see

[versed rain]

switch the branch

[frank halo]

So createReobfBundlerJar instead of reobfjar

[versed rain]

readme got updated

[mossy wigeon]

Yes. Just because it’s ‘dev’ doesn’t mean it’ll break your server

[strange umbra]

https://clips.twitch.tv/WimpyBoredLatteOSsloth-nACPTUcIHRgrtPZr

:)

[frank halo]

Ah nice thanks!

[wild falcon]

Imo it depends on the server type

[versed rain]

different branches got different readmes

[covert jolt]

@feral spire

@feral spire

@feral spire

@feral spire

@feral spire

[molten pond]

from where i can get the API??

[covert jolt]

send me configs

[hollow sparrow]

aye, is there a paper 1.18 jar availabile? or only releas-canidates

[inland hornet]

whats the download link for the experimental

[covert jolt]

send me optimized configs

[tired whale]

uh oh

[stiff heath]

We should rename this channel to 2b2t-1.18 lmao

[hollow sparrow]

lmao

[wild falcon]

Hi Michael

[drowsy umbra]

🤔 is it really downloading jdk 16?

[covert jolt]

yes

[inner crypt]

make sure you are on dev/1.18 branch

[drowsy umbra]

yeah just noticed I was on master, oof

[frank halo]

gradlew generatedevelopmentbundle is for the mojang-mapped jars for NMS?

[hollow sparrow]

can somebody share a compiled version of paper on gh

[kindred sky]

Ill just be waiting for the official update to everything since 1.18 official dropped today

[inner crypt]

you dont wanna run these early builds in prod anyways

[molten pond]

from where i can get the API??

[tulip lotus]

welp, i regret joining this discord. back to silently waiting in patience

[hollow sparrow]

obviously

[inner crypt]

https://papermc.io/api/

[inner crypt]

the discord is pretty chill normally, just today is a bit interesting ^^

[solemn solar]

So question. Since the new java.jar packaging of archives is changing, should I just build the dir from the ground up rather than just swapping the .jar?

[feral spire]

[kindred sky]

Well official drop and people are buzzing so

If im right paper has to wait for spigot to update right

[covert jolt]

I NEED CONFIGS

[tulip lotus]

spigot is done already

[mossy wigeon]

I’m worried if I wanna run 1.18 so early at all considering there’s always early duplication glitches

[tired whale]

It's always a mess with new releases lol

[mossy wigeon]

Or some kind of glitches

[valid niche]

paper 1.18 is already "out"

well, experimental builds

[native hornet]

cool kids run 1.18 alpha builds in production

[kindred sky]

I haven't seen official updat to 1.18 that not a test branch on there page yet?

[inner crypt]

so is paper technically

[amber hound]

spigot is "officially out", paper is being updated to an "official build" as we speak

[hollow wind]

the available builds are rc3

[valid niche]

nope

[kindred sky]

Oh I thought

[versed rain]

kool kids run a build task at each startup 😄

[kindred sky]

Rc3 was like a test build

Because I don't want to constantly update the jar when running a server for monthes on end

[inner crypt]

you should

[sick hearth]

[inner crypt]

you should update like once a week, especially at the start

[hollow wind]

rc3 is good but in rc4 they changed the coal ore distribution, so generating worlds in rc3 is not reccomended

[mossy wigeon]

Auto update from the GitHub

[zenith thunder]

MiniDigger were you formerly known as GoldenAureus?

[mossy wigeon]

Not from a pre built jar

[frank halo]

What's the gradle task for creating a mojMapped jar?

[kindred sky]

Wait there a way to auto update?

[mossy wigeon]

I can’t tell you!

[sick hearth]

what..?

[kindred sky]

See this makes me worry making a server yet

[mossy wigeon]

I don’t wanna get banned auto updating is bad

[velvet prism]

how

[tired whale]

I auto update to the latest each time I restart the server 😬

[bold pendant]

how do i download it through api?

[velvet prism]

any link?

[zenith thunder]

For the love of god someone direct an actual link lol

[tired whale]

I was told to just wait for the official announcement

[vapid prawn]

This sounds like a good way to land on a Mini Made A Typo build and delete your worlds

[drowsy umbra]

idk what is this?

[velvet prism]

yeah same

[versed rain]

gradlew tasks

[valid niche]

i dont see it as a good idea to give a direct link here

someone is going to run it in prod

[kindred sky]

Ok then I'll just wait for the real build to be released then instead of all these mixed signals

[valid niche]

no doubt

[half walrus]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[inland hornet]

anyone got a download link for the experimental build?

[versed rain]

./gradlew createReobfBundlerJar

[valid niche]

yes

[drowsy umbra]

Tried that one before, produces the same output

[versed rain]

it ran fine @ my machine

[velvet prism]

bruh finally thanks

[versed rain]

try a pull

[sick hearth]

lol

[drowsy umbra]

yeah this is what the build docs say too, my working dir is clean too so idk what's wrong

[snow merlin]

is that the 1.18 release? or rc

[peak pulsar]

Please don't distribute api download links

[vague falcon]

don't share API links to the builds or distribute jars, they're hidden for a reason

easiest way to get muted

[velvet prism]

y

[vague falcon]

Because theyre EXPERIMENTAL

[scarlet flax]

Sorry, didn't know

[vapid prawn]

I think the people playing on the test server have already found a way to crash it so...

[native hornet]

I can send you a link if you like

but if you fuck up your server you get banned

[vague falcon]

We're not gonna feet the impatient, if you want it, build or download it yourself

[valid niche]

they are just spamming some jvm headdumps and such, bound to happen lol

[versed rain]

BUILD SUCCESSFUL in 34s

[mossy wigeon]

I still don’t understand why the paper teams wants so badly not have a told you so moment with all the owners that wanna run it in PROD

[versed rain]

something is not so clean on your end

[glad flower]

yall are probing the development API asking stuff about literally their developmental internal builds lol

yeesh

[vapid prawn]

I don't mean cause it to slow to 0.03 TPS or something, I mean an actual crash

[native hornet]

I mean I dont mind running it in production because I dont care about a new world

[valid niche]

internal builds?

[vague falcon]

We aren't gonna distribute Jars because no matter how many times we warn y'all we'll still get blamed for "Distributing broken jars"

[autumn comet]

tldr; we are protecting you from yourself.

[drowsy umbra]

hmm weird, i'll just take the one from the API tho. Good enough for me right now

[valid niche]

thank you

[tired whale]

why paper broken devs dumb

[peak pulsar]

is 1.18 out already lol

[gusty trench]

Seems to be a Spigot issue but yup, can confirm it's easy to get an insta client crash

[velvet prism]

real or no

[vague falcon]

i mean it does build but

[versed rain]

not joking

[velvet prism]

how do u know

[glad flower]

Anyone can download the github and build it

it doesn't mean it's "bug free"

Literally just saw it crash on stream

[vapid prawn]

It was intentionally added to the CI and thus the API and unless they fix anything before later today the build in the API now is what you'll see on the website

[hollow wind]

dude paper have 800+ patches than spigot, so they needs time to make a functional build.

[vague falcon]

every paper jar is personalized

[vapid prawn]

But it definitely has issues

[valid niche]

damn wrong message

[velvet prism]

breh

[vague falcon]

don't bait people with you running paper 1.18 builds, yes they exist, no they're not ready; I don't wanna deal with people asking for builds..

[glad flower]

Congrats, you downloaded the github repo lol

[velvet prism]

i was asking for the official

[low osprey]

whats the api config

[lone rover]

does anyone have 1.18 build to share?

[peak pulsar]

what is the test ip?

[mossy wigeon]

The oldest anarchy server in Minecraft

[inner crypt]

you can either get it via the api or wait

[drifting sonnet]

We are all waiting... some more patiently than others.

[vague falcon]

...

[valid niche]

you dont want to join it

[peak pulsar]

I do.

[valid niche]

trust me on that one

[drifting sonnet]

I am happy to be patient. Just excited!

[peak pulsar]

I wanna try it.

[mossy wigeon]

FastLogin? And it looks like prod setup

[sick hearth]

this chat is at it's height

[glad flower]

I am so sorry you all get to deal with this lmao

[autumn comet]

!warn 360823574644129795 Check the pins before speaking

[wheat heart]

:raised_hands: Warned AGI#3129 (Check the pins before speaking) [1 total infraction] -- NotMyFault#3732.

[valid niche]

hehe, height.

[vague falcon]

I'm addin some pins bit behind lol

[peak pulsar]

What is the papermc ip?

[torn temple]

paper.iptables.sh

[peak pulsar]

Thank you.,

[lone spear]

Probably a lot of people on rn tho, no? Means probably not the most accurate representation of performance?
(Ignore reply)

Uhm
Wrong reply

[uneven pelican]

wait so 1.18 paper is out but no one has the direct download

[low osprey]

Yes

[autumn comet]

[wide gale]

./gradlew createReobfBundlerJar

[pliant raft]

Something like that

[vague falcon]

WOW I just pinned that, perfect timing 😄

[fierce star]

you poor dev team, sounds like to me when customers saw Windows Server 2022 was out lol

[vague falcon]

Windows is silly, 2022 isn't until next year!

[pliant raft]

Hahaha

[kind rampart]

your cat is so cute

[vague falcon]

rory!

[lone spear]

Honestly, chat is moving at like 100mph and the mod team has to sort through all the channels

[olive nacelle]

Bro why cant people read. Thank you paper devs for dealing with all of this

[potent quail]

Any clue on this gradle error? on latest commit from dev/1.18:

@Main MINGW64 ~/Documents/Dev/Paper (dev/1.18)
$ ./gradlew applyPatches

FAILURE: Build failed with an exception.

* Where:
Build file 'C:\Users\\Documents\Dev\Paper\Paper-Server\build.gradle.kts' line: 28

* What went wrong:
Project with path ':Paper-API' could not be found in project ':paper-server'.

* Try:
> Run with --stacktrace option to get the stack trace.
> Run with --info or --debug option to get more log output.
> Run with --scan to get full insights.

[rocky nest]

laziness

[glad flower]

1.18 paper is in development and they are testing builds to prep for an **experimental **release. The jar files are not released, nor should they be used unless you really want to experience crashes.

[vague falcon]

delete your Paper-API and Paper-Server folders @potent quail

then retry

[fierce star]

@vague falcon , Worst version of server ever. Some customer demanded they wanted it on production and then well it bluescreened killed the registry and took the DC with it. Which unfortunatly was the only domain controller lol

[uneven pelican]

thank you thats what i want to know

[oblique sierra]

just wait

[vapid prawn]

Did you git clone or did you just download a zip from github?

[potent quail]

legend, thank you!

[peak pulsar]

If you do want to test out 1.18, come help us "professionally" stress test at paper.iptables.sh

[uneven pelican]

so when will the full release of paper 1.18 come out?

[versed rain]

omw

[half walrus]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[peak pulsar]

Uh the ban hammer has spoken, why?

[potent quail]

git clone'd

[timber relic]

not to sound like a stupid question but i assume when a release to 1.18 paper is out it will be posted in the #❗-1-18 channel?

[rocky nest]

yes

[lone spear]

Give me like

Oops sorry

[vague falcon]

Yeah we changed the build process a bit ago that's the way to fix it

[lone spear]

Sent early didn't remove ping

[heavy creek]

Discord lag :D

[hollow wind]

porcoddio dovete aspettà, se non volete aspettà usate spigot

[potent quail]

I personally use gitkraken, might have something to do with it

[mossy wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-driving-serious-cat-driving-focus-driving-gif-16464288

[peak pulsar]

ban

[hushed cairn]

butter sock

[lone spear]

Why is the reply ping on/off button next to the send button on mobile

[vague falcon]

oof

[rocky nest]

✨ discord ✨

[valid niche]

there really isnt an another place 🤷‍♂️

[cyan whale]

When is 1.18 paper coming out

[half walrus]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[peak pulsar]

Read Pins

[rocky nest]

Read the pins.
There is no ETA, there is no production builds, and there is no queen of england!

[lone spear]

This is why we use [ToS violation] /s

[cloud imp]

I think we need a 'slow mode'

[restive ocean]

Hey im not able to launch Paper 1.18 with Java 17 OpenJDK, is that bug already known?

Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "17-ea"
    at java.base/java.lang.NumberFormatException.forInputString(NumberFormatException.java:67)
    at java.base/java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:668)
    at java.base/java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:786)
    at io.papermc.paperclip.Main.getJavaVersion(Main.java:47)
    at io.papermc.paperclip.Main.main(Main.java:17)

[rocky nest]

slow mode wouldn't help

[tired whale]

who u callin slow

[restive ocean]

if not feel free to add it 🙂

[autumn comet]

Yes, update Java

[half walrus]

https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[restive ocean]

its already java 17

[vague falcon]

that's EA not GA though

[autumn comet]

early access, not release

[mossy wigeon]

You’re a villain alright, just not a super one.

[autumn comet]

Tho GA is EA at this time

[restive ocean]

ah

[dusty bluff]

1.18 paper out?

[twin spade]

Is it better to build dev/1.18 branch or the dev/1.18-patch/optimize......?

[night gale]

No, not yet

[rocky nest]

Read the pins.
There is no ETA, there is no production builds, and there is no queen of england!

[oblique sierra]

do u read\

[heavy creek]

no eta

[restive ocean]

thank you haha 😄

[vague falcon]

yeah still got da EA (sports) there

[lone spear]

No, come back in a day and check #❗-1-18
If nothing is there go back to step one

[rocky nest]

thanks to [tos violation] I can now easily send that message to anyone

[bold bramble]

this is the equivalent of "are we there yet" except there are many many children

[autumn comet]

One of that is not true...

[mossy wigeon]

Come on dude, read #❗-1-18 before you come at people asking questions! Answer your own questions

[oak lagoon]

are we talking hours, days or weeks?

[dapper lotus]

There is no eta

[mossy wigeon]

Some server owners barely know how any of this works, which is the equivalent so

[half walrus]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[rocky nest]

it's a quote from megamind lol

[peak pulsar]

🍿 🧐

[twin spade]

Is it better to build dev/1.18 branch or the dev/1.18-patch/optimize...... if I want to try it?

[cinder locust]

we are talking no ETA

[cloud imp]

I understand the hearts of those waiting for the bell 1.18, but it will take time because it is a human job. Let's all wait together.

[tulip lotus]

eyo whats that plugin that lets new client versions play on old servers ?

[vague falcon]

no we're talking about paper experimental builds!

[peak pulsar]

viaversion

[rocky nest]

Viaversion

[tulip lotus]

thanks

[storm plaza]

Hi guys how do i update to 1.18

[vague falcon]

1. wait

[oblique sierra]

omg

[twin spade]

Is it better to build dev/1.18 branch or the dev/1.18-patch/optimize...... if I want to try it? (can some of the admins reply)

[lone spear]

2. bake a cake

[oak lagoon]

ah got it seems like i gotta wait for a little bit then, good luck developing!

[mossy wigeon]

3. Make ravioli

[frank halo]

Anyone else got infinite "Loading..." after updating their intellij IDEA?

[azure cove]

4. you're free to eat while waiting, enjoy.

[vague falcon]

average intellij experience

[twin spade]

Is it better to build dev/1.18 branch or the dev/1.18-patch/optimize...... if I want to try it? @dapper lotus

[oblique sierra]

fr bout to make a pb&j

[rocky nest]

no-ping

[twin spade]

Oh fuck no ping sorry 😢

[cinder locust]

no-ping bro

[languid lodge]

Somebody about to die

[azure cove]

You're making me hungry, gotta grab a snack

[mossy wigeon]

I corrupted my test server works using 1.17, if that’s any indication, that should tell you not to do it in prod, I wanted to see how things would break, to see if it could corrupt any configs and test my plug-in

[lone spear]

They really forgor 💀

[oblique sierra]

cringe

[dapper lotus]

!kick 257886372461936641 read the rules

[wheat heart]

:raised_hands: Kicked ChromMob#6892 (read the rules) [1 total infraction] -- electronicboy#8869.

[marble lance]

I know that isn't any ETA, but are we talking hours? Days? Weeks?

[hexed panther]

LOOL

[tulip lotus]

not making a copy of your server to test on

[vague falcon]

Several people are typing...

[hexed panther]

few years

[rocky nest]

yes

[autumn comet]

!kick 742679025998233631 Constantly asking for etas

[azure cove]

[wheat heart]

:raised_hands: Kicked Arne Henrik Hornberg#0352 (Constantly asking for etas) [1 total infraction] -- NotMyFault#3732.

[oblique sierra]

pov u dont know what eta means

[storm plaza]

So where is the 1.18 download?

[twin spade]

I am really sorry but can u answer my question: Is it better to build dev/1.18 branch or the dev/1.18-patch/optimize...... if I want to try it?

[autumn comet]

[rocky nest]

Read the pins.
There is no ETA, there is no production builds~~, and there is no queen of england~~!
Follow #❗-1-18 for further updates.

[vague falcon]

[night gale]

It isn't available yet

[azure cove]

Same here and at this point I'm too afraid to ask

[tulip lotus]

begging for updated that requires on a tree of dependencies, 1 hour after the first dependency updated

[dapper lotus]

The dev branch is literally where all the fixkinf work is being done

[night gale]

Estimated Time of Arrival

[rocky nest]

estimated time of arival

[hexed panther]

megamind quote?

[rocky nest]

😛

[vague falcon]

the pins describe what it means :smi

[oblique sierra]

i do know what it means omg

[frank halo]

use dev/1.18

[mossy wigeon]

I could never copy my whole server, thousands of repetitive user data files I can’t get rid of that slow down any attempt of trying to copy the whole server

[vague falcon]

ok no emoji then

[tawdry briar]

im surprised this channel isnt locked at this point

[twin spade]

Ok thank you

[wild falcon]

I know someone who is lol

[hexed panther]

cough slowmode added when

[past plover]

[native hornet]

ETA = Everyone Tickles Aikar

[peak pulsar]

slowmode would be nice

[rocky nest]

locking it would just mean they go to #paper-help or #general

[mossy wigeon]

I’m totally considering dropping Essentials for 1.18 reset, I hate repetitive userdata files, that’s what MySQL is for

[vague falcon]

I can't control slowmode sadly

[tulip lotus]

copy without for testing purposes, but i mean plugins/ and config files

[twin spade]

Agreed

[mossy wigeon]

New people will just keep coming

[rocky nest]

Slowdown won't help, since it's many people, not a few problem people

[tulip lotus]

i do agree that every plugin should use fcking mysql tho

[languid lodge]

How are you back here?

[hexed panther]

yaml ftw

[native hornet]

make a new section called 1.18-download, then make the only message in that there is no ETA stop asking

[vague falcon]

thats #❗-1-18

[rocky nest]

#❗-1-18

[dapper lotus]

We've tried shit like that before

[tulip lotus]

toml ftw

[mossy wigeon]

Oh yeah I did that, minus Essentials and Towny data since I’m using towny with flat because I had a issue migrating flat to MySQL

[cinder locust]

ETA means Estimated Time of Arrival, in this case, Paper is working hard on the update and there are no estimates, because they wouldn't be accurate

[dapper lotus]

We're amazed people are finding this channel

[autumn comet]

We can all calm down a bit, lean back and watch https://www.twitch.tv/kennytvn

[frank halo]

Alright downgradint intellij idea fixed it. I recommend everyone not to get the 2021.3 build lol

[hexed panther]

im still on 2019 intellij

[autumn comet]

Keep off topic out here

[hexed panther]

i rly should update

[tulip lotus]

mfs will watch a twitch stream of anything these days

[twin spade]

Only kicked

[potent quail]

Would mods rather deal with "when update?" or "where can i find paper 1.8.8"

[peak pulsar]

or, if you want to do something, hop into paper.iptables.sh to help us stress test "professionally"

[lone spear]

Paper for terraria when

[glad flower]

hello where can I download paper 1.19

[rocky nest]

le sigh

[tulip lotus]

awesome domain

[autumn comet]

!kick 147494558010310656 Cheap troll

[wheat heart]

:raised_hands: Kicked Lightning#1337 (Cheap troll) [1 total infraction] -- NotMyFault#3732.

[onyx ferry]

I approve of this

[languid lodge]

Bruv why

[azure cove]

So I got a question about 1.18, not paper related. If I load a previous version map, new caves will load under y=0. Will I get new mountains as well? If create a fresh 1.18 world, will new caves generate above y=0?

[cloud phoenix]

he knew the rules

[glad flower]

lmao

Thank you ❤️

[peak pulsar]

only in new chunks

[tulip lotus]

it generates 64 blocks of air under bedrock for existing terrain

[hexed panther]

and so do i

[boreal apex]

he knew thr rules and so do we

[night gale]

Lower is on everything, higher is on new chunks

[boreal apex]

fuck

[peak pulsar]

no it doesn't, it replaces bedrock with deepslate

[onyx ferry]

rules are only ever read after getting banned

[lime cargo]

is it out already?

[rocky nest]

Read the pins.
There is no ETA, there is no production builds~~, and there is no queen of england~~!
Follow #❗-1-18 for further updates.

[onyx ferry]

it seems

[azure cove]

Okay so gonna nuke my server's world and restart

[autumn comet]

Keep off topic out of topic channels please

[tulip lotus]

oh.. ive been misinformed then

[harsh lance]

What does the chunk file size look like now?

[hexed panther]

u got tthis shit on copy and paste

[rocky nest]

indeed 😛

[azure cove]

Sorry. Won't happen again

[vague falcon]

im glad you lowercased the e in england

[lone spear]

After seeing so many people get kicked I'm pretty sure I should've been at this point, despite not trying to be annoying

[autumn comet]

40% as of 1.17, quoting Bloodstone afaik

[glad flower]

damn

[grand osprey]

i can't compile dev/1.18

[hexed panther]

same issue lol

[mossy wigeon]

Who’s gonna be resetting their server for 1.18

[onyx ferry]

just wanna say a BIG thank you for making this happen so fast

[vague falcon]

Delete Paper-API and Paper-Server folders, retry

[mossy wigeon]

Or is that off topic?

[timber quail]

i can't wait i can't wait I CAN'T WAIT! ❤️

[dark wigeon]

Yes you can

[mossy wigeon]

AND HES GONE

[rocky nest]

[vague falcon]

?kick @torn temple Don't distribute 1.18 builds

[wheat heart]

:raised_hands: Kicked GaetanoXD#2058 (Don't distribute 1.18 builds) [1 total infraction] -- olivia // chew#0579.

[wild falcon]

same

[runic pumice]

SPIGOT RELEASED

[vague falcon]

I don't like punishing people but I don't like rule breakers, it's a hard balance

[dim cosmos]

perfectly balanced

[valid niche]

i think locking this channel and making the latest message a picture of rory would be the best option

[hollow wind]

We are aware of both Vanilla and Spigot having updated to 1.18. Kenny is hard at work in updating. Follow along on his adventures! https://www.twitch.tv/paperpowered (click the right arrow to switch to the hosting mode :p)

[boreal apex]

ok

[wheat phoenix]

Is there an ETA for 1.18 stable?

[rocky nest]

Read the pins.
There is no ETA, there is no production builds~~, and there is no queen of England~~!
Follow #❗-1-18 for further updates.

[bronze plover]

its okay, he tried to use his time machine to let us know early, but he forgot about daylight savings ending, so he arrived to our timeline later than expected

[azure cove]

Just stop asking about ETA, it'll come when it'll come

[storm plaza]

How hard is it for you devs to just change the number from 1.17 to 1.18 smh my head 😤

[low osprey]

you can downloaded it on the papermc website

its experiemental tho

[rocky nest]

nope you can't

[valid niche]

my dogs name is eta, why is everyone asking how he is doing? /s

he is doing fine

[glad flower]

#❗-1-18 message

[rocky nest]

oh nvm

[vague falcon]

Should update my pins now lol

[lone spear]

I'm gonna use these builds in production.
(And regret it.)

[vague falcon]

EXPERIMENTAL Paper 1.18 builds are available on the website. They are NOT stable. See #announcements message for more information.

Do NOT use these in production! Please, for rory

Additionally, please continue to not share links to 3rd party sites or uploading the builds here. The only acceptable links are to the API or our official downloads page, papermc.io.

[autumn comet]

omega lul

[rocky nest]

canary.

[bronze plover]

ctrl+h, find 1.17, replace with 1.18, then add try { [all code] } catch (Exception e) { System.out.println("😳") }

[rocky nest]

.s/canary./

[glad flower]

goodluck with all the error reports, devs.

[smoky plinth]

lemme go and run this on my prod server really quick

[azure cove]

2 secs later: oh no! Your server just crashed!

[smoky plinth]

All things considered, yall are amazing for getting these out so quick, much love 💜

[lone spear]

Whats the worst that could happen...

[naive river]

lets go boisssssss

[sly minnow]

Walking on a piece of lego

[azure cove]

Yeah PaperMC is legit the best server loader I found for plugins

[boreal apex]

tf?

is this real

[vague falcon]

yikes, cringe download site

[azure cove]

If I can call Paper a "server loader"

[silver heart]

[vague falcon]

use the official one, please

[frank halo]

Is there any flag i need to use to convert 1.17 to 1.18 worlds?

[dapper lotus]

No

[vague falcon]

Nah, just boot it up

[frank halo]

I remember there was some flag for 1.16>1.17

[feral spire]

dont use 3rd party

[covert jolt]

avoid songoda services

[frank halo]

Oki

[azure cove]

Yo 1.18 stable just got released?

[covert jolt]

use papermc.io

[vague falcon]

But, backups

[ionic bloom]

I'm not resetting my server cos there's only me on it atm and have not ventured out much.

[boreal apex]

yeah but y

[vague falcon]

Oh that's songoda? Yeah I'd avoid ever going there

[dapper lotus]

The force upgrade flag is stupid, don't use it

[frank halo]

rip lol

[feral spire]

only use official site. Paper gives API to download @boreal apex

[vague falcon]

Use https://papermc.io/downloads

Not some janky 3rd party service

[bronze plover]

people really be looking up "paper mc free online 480p high quality"

[vapid prawn]

Those haven't existed for ages, are you updating a world from 1.12 or something? 😛

[boreal apex]

I know I should but I was confused because paper 1.18 isnt actually released yet

[grand osprey]

is ist just ./gradlew publishToMavenLocal to get the nms thing into my mavenLocal?

[azure cove]

Thanks for sacrificing your server for us, comrade

[vague falcon]

#announcements #❗-1-18 the pins etc

[frank halo]

uuh only 1.17 to 1.18 haha

I do have an older world downloaded from planetminecraft

[dapper lotus]

Just update the jar

[rocky nest]

.userdev

[dark wigeon]

Yeah it's been happening to people upgrading from 1.17

[rocky nest]

oh is this not linked?

[vapid prawn]

People saw that message on the rc3 build too, don't think anyone saw any problems after though

[bronze plover]

RIP minecraft:wall_sign[facing=east]

[dapper lotus]

There has never been any steps other than "just replace the jar" and that's literally never gonna change

[uneven pagoda]

How to get final server jar using jar from downloads page? After patching it gives me a ~17mb jar that doesn't run via bash file like before with patched 1.17

[frank halo]

Alright bad idea updating a 1.17 server with 120 plugins lmao

[vague falcon]

No

[ocean finch]

Hey guys can I ask a super quick off-topic question about minecraft on here since this is where everyone is talking?

[timber quail]

how long would you guys think could it take till a stable version will be released? 🤔

[half walrus]

__There Is No ETA__

Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.

ETA means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!

[peak pulsar]

#general

[dark wigeon]

#general

[ocean finch]

thank you 🙂

[dark wigeon]

oh

i am useless

[azure cove]

ETA is not real it can't hurt you

[dapper lotus]

There is no "final server jar" any more

[still citrus]

i feel incredibly bad for the devs and moderators rn lol, stay strong against the tide of annoying questions

[dapper lotus]

At least, not a runnable one; paper adopted mojangs bandler changes

[shut flax]

People keep asking for ETAs... omg smh.

[azure cove]

PaperMC has an amazing team

Working hard for us, thank you so much

[shut flax]

Thank you Paper!

[bronze plover]

at this point might as well change the channel name to 1-18-no-ETA-experimental. Maybe we will cut the ETA questions by 20%

[shut flax]

Take your time. 😄

[azure cove]

https://c.tenor.com/Vl-pwtuiQbgAAAAM/take-your-time-persona-five.gif

[vague falcon]

nah they'll see "ETA"

[uneven pagoda]

So now we can run the server only by jar from downloads page?

[dapper lotus]

Don't mention

Basically, yes

[uneven pagoda]

Sadly but thanks

[boreal apex]

Im confused, in #❗-1-18 it says builds are now availble but don't see any new 1.18 builds

[dapper lotus]

Wat

Literally the downloads page

[vague falcon]

🤨

[dapper lotus]

Force refresh

[vague falcon]

hard refresh

[valid niche]

ctrl + f5

[uneven pagoda]

Try CTRL+F5

I have this problem too ~hour ago

[boreal apex]

oh yeah I had to refresh im sorry

[lethal warren]

How do I get the API to match the 1.18-8 build?

having trouble figuring out the numbering

[valid niche]

😐

[dapper lotus]

Wat

[vague falcon]

should be in readme?

[west bone]

Is the experimental version of paper safe to use in production if you are generating a new world?

[dense river]

no

[autumn comet]

libs are now downloading on runtime

[coarse saffron]

it's only safe to use if you are okay with something going wrong and losing your world

[lethal warren]

nvm, the website updated the maven stuff

[vague falcon]

the mojang jar is at least

[lethal warren]

got it

[coarse saffron]

if you just want to have fun with friends, it's perfectly fine to use

[rigid flame]

🎃

[vague falcon]

yeha it's here https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/tree/dev/1.18#how-to-plugin-developers

[coarse saffron]

I don't think we are aware of any major breaking bugs, but more testing is still needed

[west bone]

Backups are taken often, if it was lost could it be restored via backup?

[native hornet]

aww

[bronze plover]

i love how at some point, developers were annoyed that websites were getting too many requests when users would refresh, so they just said "how about we make default refresh not actually always refresh"? Software engineering is truly a field of working smarter, not harder

[dapper lotus]

I mean, that's called caching

[vague falcon]

well it's the difference between cached resources and not lol

[dense river]

Caches are there because we get thousands of requests each day and if you wanna pay for that server you can gladly do so

[valid niche]

the global internet would be way more heavy without caching 😳

[cloud phoenix]

yeehaw

[terse summit]

hm, no plugins seems to be running on 1.18 😳

[dapper lotus]

Mfw update you shit

[west bone]

I have 13 custom plugins for my new server

[valid niche]

almost everything i use works fine on 1.18

[west bone]

So excited

[dapper lotus]

Not that this isn't still day 0...

[valid niche]

stop using plugins made for bukkit 1.3

[west bone]

Fr

[dense river]

We've had over 100 million requests in the last 7 days on the endpoint we removed that's not even working anymore, so please, if you wanna sponsor the biggest server in the world to server that without caching feel free

[coarse saffron]

maybe, but we won't promise anything. If you're willing to do it, go for it, as long as you understand we aren't endorsing these builds as stable yet

[bronze plover]

yes, im aware, I'm just saying that from a layman's POV, refresh sounds like it will always perform an actual full refresh as the name suggests

[vague falcon]

it's more reloading and it does reload the page but doesnt imply it'll reload any assets

[molten sentinel]

I'm still using plugins from MC beta

[vague falcon]

"force refresh" just means clear cache + reload

[west bone]

Since a early version is already out, is there any eta? Not something to hold against but I just wanna know if it’s worth it to run now

[bronze plover]

and when it doesn't work, the solution to tell em is "press the real refresh button combo"

[dapper lotus]

There is no eta

[olive yarrow]

Is paper 1.18 stable enough for a survival server with friends

[vague falcon]

though if you have a sane version of handling versioned assets they'll never have to

[dapper lotus]

Read.

Den literally just answered that.

[coarse saffron]

why do people keep asking for ETA

[peak pulsar]

link to where I can get the experimental 1.18 server?

[vague falcon]

the website

[west bone]

We are uneducated monkeys

[molten sentinel]

Or build from Git.

[coarse saffron]

why would the ETA change all of a sudden

how many times do we have to repeat the same shit

[dapper lotus]

Don't build from git

[valid turret]

thanks to all moderators wich does a very good job!

[dapper lotus]

Force refresh

[coarse saffron]

1.18 download: https://papermc.io/downloads

[upper relic]

control + f5

[turbid slate]

Just wanna say paper team you rock. 👍🏼

[peak pulsar]

thank you

[paper musk]

thx :3

[mossy wigeon]

Idk how they do it, when I wanted to use cool stuff like cloud.commandframework I ended up with having my plug-in only supporting paper 1.17 at the end of it all lol

[still citrus]

need a bot that reposts this and /eta every 2 minutes lol

[primal shadow]

lol

[shut flax]

Not enough. Every 30 seconds atleast.

[bronze plover]

be sure to add "and press ctrl+F5 if your downloads page doesn't list it"

[bold pendant]

HEY

[still citrus]

just every second. make the chat totally unusable

[bold pendant]

sorry caps

[dark wigeon]

Excited to update my plugins to 1.18 and procrastinate on my research paper

[bold pendant]

how do i download java 17 onto my server?

[primal shadow]

just make it say it for every message that contains "eta"

[half walrus]

https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/java-update/index.html

[still citrus]

even ones with normal words that happen to contain the letters. call that a thETA maneuver

[bold pendant]

im using apex and its not auto updating

[west bone]

Your parkour plugin is awesome

[vague falcon]

sounds like a host issue, reach out to them

[dapper lotus]

Then ask apex

[empty forum]

Can I pop viaversion onto a velocity server and have my players connect or is it way more complicated than that?

[lean goblet]

that is what i do

[empty forum]

velocity/proxy server*

[west bone]

You can change it in the customization tab, then reboot

[dapper lotus]

We're not via

[surreal wave]

That should work

[mossy wigeon]

Make sure you have all your things up to date

Velocity updated

[vague falcon]

youd need via on your target servers but ye

[boreal apex]

spigot 1.18 is stable right

[lean goblet]

sure it is...

[vague falcon]

spigot is never stable lmao

[surreal wave]

I am with both Via and Velocity and latest Via + Velocity 3.1.0 should work

[dapper lotus]

No

[mossy wigeon]

Dream on

[boreal apex]

oh lol

[west bone]

PIN THIS

[boreal apex]

well shit

[barren mason]

Heyo guys

[still citrus]

spigot 1.18 stable-ish

[bronze plover]

define stable

[barren mason]

Is papermc stable?

[vague falcon]

1.17.1 is yes

[mossy wigeon]

Read

[valid niche]

spigot 1.18 is as stable as spigot is normally, except a little bit worse

[dapper lotus]

Read.

[upper relic]

NO

[barren mason]

Lol

[craggy crater]

https://papermc.io/downloads#Paper-1.18 the right link

[west bone]

No

[boreal apex]

yeah?

[mossy wigeon]

Great minds think alike

[left marten]

After upgrade to a new waterfall edition /server dosent work

[worldly holly]

as stable as a piece of paper can be when you soak it in a flowing river

[vague falcon]

pain

[pliant verge]

I run a server on aternos (a server hosting site) and no where have they mentioned that is extremely experimental...

[west bone]

dOes PaPer HaVe a EtA

[boreal apex]

okay so what do u guys think is more stable? Spigot 1.18 or paper 1.18 experimental?

[dapper lotus]

This is literally day 0

[mossy wigeon]

You’re running Aternos, don’t expect anything

[boreal apex]

as in safe to use

[gentle carbon]

Neither right now

[west bone]

[valid niche]

no one knows

[still citrus]

I think both are less stable than both will be in a few days

[west bone]

Get better hodt

[boreal apex]

what?

[west bone]

Host

[pliant verge]

I've actually been using it for a year and I don't have any complaints actually

[still citrus]

aternos is fine, its free and you get what you pay for lol

[dapper lotus]

This is day 0, there are no stable builds, sod off

[boreal apex]

ok but that doesnt answer the quiestion

I know

but

[rustic quarry]

PRs that got closed because dev/1.18 branch got deleted can be sent again to master?

[dapper lotus]

But, no

[still citrus]

both are unstable and prone to crashing at the moment. I would not bother trying to use either version for a server until some time passes and more stable iterations are released

[boreal apex]

to formulate it better, wich one is closer to being stable

[inner crypt]

yes please

we forgot to change base before, sorry

[boreal apex]

okay ty

[rustic quarry]

okay np

[dapper lotus]

!kick 576710899126239243 there are no stable builds, stop asking.

[wheat heart]

:raised_hands: Kicked H1dd3#6352 (there are no stable builds, stop asking.) [2 total infractions] -- electronicboy#8869.

[lean goblet]

doh

[worldly holly]

any build's a stable build if you're crazy enough

[boreal apex]

I said closest to being stable though

lol

[grand osprey]

🤔

[dapper lotus]

And I said to stop asking

[boreal apex]

ok?

[dapper lotus]

Stop means stop.

[mellow belfry]

anyone got worldedit to work?

[vague falcon]

we arent worldedit

[mellow belfry]

but you are paper

[bronze plover]

which isnt worldedit lol

[west bone]

set bot to mute anyone who says “eta”

[coarse saffron]

worldedit has their own discord

[boreal apex]

that kick was unnecesary you could've just asked me to stop asking

[dapper lotus]

I did

[still citrus]

generally, in stable versions, plugins that work with spigot would work with paper, but this is too early to consider updating all of your servers and plugins

[native hornet]

lmao

[west bone]

I agree

[mellow belfry]

and I want to know has anyone got it working on the newest build yet, according to the worldedit testing builds it should supposedly work on paper 1.18 and I was just asking

no need to get arsey

[dapper lotus]

I told you to sod off, now I suggest you stop it.

[potent oriole]

[dark wigeon]

.try

ok

[dark wigeon]

https://tryitands.ee