velocity-dev

[agile ore]

Thank you for your answer. Is there a documentation on the Velocity site?

[burnt dragon]

you can find good docs on their github wiki

[agile ore]

Hello, i can't deny the ChatResult with a message?

[oblique haven]

you could deny it and send the player a message

but afaik there's no "chat result" packet which even exists

[agile ore]

That's what I did, but I find it strange that there is a method to accept with a message but not to refuse with a message lol

Thanks you !

[oblique haven]

"accept with a message"?

you mean the message which is sent?

[oblique haven]

right - this overrides what the player sent

[agile ore]

Oh right, I misunderstood the method

[real kelp]

i just created a fresh velocity project in intellij with the mc extension, why am i getting all of these errors?

this is what my pom looks like, this is a test plugin

[bold wharf]

try a build

[fleet sail]

message.txt by @real kelp: https://paste.gg/c64d7f496195443c958876ec677bd36c

[real kelp]

[ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project me.bubbarob19: Could not resolve dependencies for project testvplugin:me.bubbarob19:jar:1.0-SNAPSHOT: Failure to find com.velocitypowered:velocity-api:jar:3.1.1 in https://repo1.maven.org/maven2 was cached in the local repository, resolution will not be reattempted until the update interval of central has elapsed or updates are forced -> [Help 1]

[bold wharf]

you have a dep which you don't have available

[real kelp]

velocity version 3.1.1 doesn't seem to work

3.0.1 worked but idk how outdated that is

and then its all of these maven plugins that arent working properly

[fleet sail]

https://docs.papermc.io/velocity/dev/api-basics

[real kelp]

not sure how to fix any of this considering idk what any of it does lol

[bold wharf]

https://docs.papermc.io/velocity/dev/creating-your-first-plugin

(your pom is also invalid, name shouldn't have a . inside of it)

[real kelp]

ah it seems the repo they put in the mc intellij extension is outdated

ill see if i can update the plugin, thanks

[bold wharf]

yea, fixing the name and the repo and it builds

[wanton tangle]

question: is there a license requirement when using the velocity-api to develop plugins?

or can I choose any license for my plugin

[craggy pecan]

Most "standard" licenses will work, the API is MIT-licensed

[wanton tangle]

perfect

[agile ore]

Does anyone know how can I make a "rejoin" thing on velocity?

So the player gets kicked from current server and immediately gets reconnected

[fossil sundial]

listen to the kick event, check the reason or server status and just set the redirect server as the current server

[agile ore]

Okk

[jovial timber]

How does one do error handling for something like this:

ConnectionRequestBuilder connection = p.createConnectionRequest(server.getServer("event").get());
connection.connect();

[sour current]

.connect returns a future with a result

[flint forge]

What’s the easiest way for me to have global variables between servers

Just a database? Or

[sour current]

https://jd.papermc.io/velocity/3.0.0/com/velocitypowered/api/proxy/ConnectionRequestBuilder.Result.html, you can then check Result#isSuccessful or .exceptionally

[half locust]

zestarr: yeah DB or messaging service or some combination thereof

[flint forge]

Ok ty, and if I want to send a player to a server do I need to import velocity via maven into my spigot plugin?

Or how does that work? Never used velocity

[sour current]

if it's a plugin that runs on the backend you can use the bungee messaging channel

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bukkit-bungee-plugin-messaging-channel/#connectother

[flint forge]

Ok ty!

[tough dock]

is there any good tutorials/resources to start developing plugins for velocity?

[sour current]

https://docs.papermc.io/velocity/cat/dev/getting-started is worth reading

[tough dock]

thank you ❤️

[nova sparrow]

😻

look at my source code i handle it

https://github.com/Matt-MX/ServerGUI

[tough dock]

im quite noobie, can a velocity server run a bungee plugin and vice versa?

[bold wharf]

no

[tough dock]

oh

ok

[bold wharf]

There is a plugin which triiiiiiiess that, but, unsupported, expect bugs, etc, etc

[nova sparrow]

i think i might have seen a plug-in that can try it

yeah i can’t imagine it’d be bug free

[tough dock]

good intel, thanks 😛

[mystic horizon]

Hello! How can i cancell all player commands?
I try to use something like this, but it is not work for me

public void onPlayerExecuteCommand(CommandExecuteEvent e) {
if (PlayerData.INSTANCE.isAuthorized(player.getUsername())) return;

    e.setResult(CommandExecuteEvent.CommandResult.denied());

}

[fickle grail]

did you add @Subscribe?

[mystic horizon]

Yes

for debug, i add some lines of logs. I see logs in console. but command not canceled

[nova sparrow]

probably an issue with velocity not cancelling the forwarding of those commands

i think i’ve experienced something of the sort before?

[rough tangle]

Sorry ahead of time I am new to futures. I am trying to monitor the result of sending a player to a server. When I look at the future when it completes is always say CONNECTION_IN_PROGRESS. I'd like to be able to see when it hits the SUCCESS state as well.

connection.thenAccept(result -> System.out.println("Result: " + result.getStatus().name()));```
This is always the result I never am able to see the flow finish.
```Result: CONNECTION_IN_PROGRESS```

[graceful vault]

I was wondering if it was possible to determine if a player was connecting via a forge client or via a vanilla client?
Player.getModInfo() is not present when joining via forge, player.getClientBrand() just returns null in either cases.

[ember hornet]

probably redis

[fossil sundial]

strongly depends on the game version

1.12.2 and older use this system, but you’ll have to wait till the first server join is complete

1.13 and newer you’ll have to register and listen to the appropriate login plugin channels yourself

for the brand see https://jd.papermc.io/velocity/3.0.0/com/velocitypowered/api/event/player/PlayerClientBrandEvent.html

before that it’ll always be null

[fickle grail]

@fossil sundial Is there any eta for this issue https://github.com/PaperMC/Velocity/issues/774 ?

[fossil sundial]

You’re barking up the wrong tree. I did what I had to before my exams end but other than that I’m not available till after July 25th

Either someone else does it or it’s gotta wait

Sorry

[fickle grail]

Sure good luck with your exams 🙂

[half python]

Can I be sure that
LoginEvent is fully completed (whatever how long it takes)
until
ServerConnectedEvent is fired for a player? because that doesnt seem to be the case

[fossil sundial]

Yes unless you have a plugin or you yourself are calling a connection request in this specific event

[fossil sundial]

^

[willow bone]

After C->S encryption response, and the ACK from the server, what packet is expected next from the server? I can't seem to find the doc

[willow bone]

On the topic of connection failures I reported historically, we've narrowed it down to this malformed packet from the server to the client immediately after the encryption response is acknowledged https://i.cwlf.uk/wqQly

[craggy pecan]

Either set compression (optional) or login success (according to https://wiki.vg/Protocol#Login)

Or do you mean the first packet on the play state?

[nova sparrow]

Using Component.translatable, does it parse & as hex/formatting or whatnot?

Or is it only the funny gambit symbol

[rich hawk]

neither

it doesn’t parse anything afaik

[nova sparrow]

Any idea how I can make it do so

[rich hawk]

not

[nova sparrow]

I've done it in the past, but with using .translatable

[rich hawk]

don’t use legacy

[nova sparrow]

wdym by that

[rich hawk]

translatable are meant to be text only i think, you do the formatting yourself

[fossil sundial]

^

[nova sparrow]

all g

[sudden ridge]

Is there any way for a backend server plugin to send a message to all velocity proxies?
I'm using Herochat which sends chat messages through the messaging channel but only for the proxy the message originated from and I was wondering if that way you could get cross-proxy messages 😅 Just a very wild idea that crossed my mind :D

[fossil sundial]

You’d have to use something else like redis or rabbitmq as plugin messaging requires an active player connection to to work

As for 1.19 and newer this isn’t working cause the api for it is missing; see the 3.1.2 milestone on GitHub for that; it’s still indev

[sudden ridge]

I mean... you wouldn't want to send a message to a proxy that has no players connected so, not necessarily what would be required in this case?

[fossil sundial]

Well you’d need a plugin on the proxies

And one on the servers

[sudden ridge]

Aw, unfortunate but thanks for letting me know. Maybe I'll ask for reddis support though I doubt it'll come any time soon 😅

[sudden ridge]

Ah I see, redis would be the easier choice then, I see that :D

[tawdry sky]

Any advice on this error?

[15:54:06 ERROR]: Couldn't pass ServerPreConnectEvent to lendnet
java.util.NoSuchElementException: No value present
        at java.util.Optional.get(Optional.java:143) ~[?:?]
        at lendmark.net.listeners.ServerSwitch.ServerPreConnectEvent(ServerSwitch.java:39) ~[?:?]
        at lendmark.net.listeners.Lmbda$40.execute(Unknown Source) ~[?:?]
        at com.velocitypowered.proxy.event.UntargetedEventHandler$VoidHandler.lambda$buildHandler$0(UntargetedEventHandler.java:47) ~[velocity.jar:3.1.2-SNAPSHOT (git-662fbc4e-b159)]
        at com.velocitypowered.proxy.event.VelocityEventManager.fire(VelocityEventManager.java:598) ~[velocity.jar:3.1.2-SNAPSHOT (git-662fbc4e-b159)]
        at com.velocitypowered.proxy.event.VelocityEventManager.lambda$fire$5(VelocityEventManager.java:479) ~[velocity.jar:3.1.2-SNAPSHOT (git-662fbc4e-b159)]
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1136) ~[?:?]
        at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:635) ~[?:?]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:833) [?:?]```

            RegisteredServer server1 = server.getServer("lb01").get();
            RegisteredServer server2 = server.getServer("lb02").get();

            if (server1.getPlayersConnected().size() > server2.getPlayersConnected().size())
                Utils.sendPlayerToServer(server2, player);
            else if (server1.getPlayersConnected().size() < server2.getPlayersConnected().size())
                Utils.sendPlayerToServer(server1, player);
            else {
                int min = 0;
                int max = 1;
                int random_int = (int) Math.floor(Math.random() * (max - min + 1) + min);

                if (random_int == 1) {
                    Utils.sendPlayerToServer(server1, player);
                } else {
                    Utils.sendPlayerToServer(server2, player);
                }
            }```

[lethal garnet]

check ifpresent on any optional you use

[tawdry sky]

I don't see anything optional there?

[burnt dragon]

what do you think the .get() calls at the beginning do

(hint: read the javadoc)

[tawdry sky]

I mean it doesn't work without it

I think

[burnt dragon]

it also clearly isn't working with it

[lethal garnet]

read the javadoc

[tawdry sky]

It is

but throws the error

[lethal garnet]

because it doesn’t work?

[tawdry sky]

It works correctly

[lethal garnet]

then it’s placebo

[burnt dragon]

well then why are you asking for support if it's working fine

[tawdry sky]

..because of the error

[burnt dragon]

so it isn't working....

[tawdry sky]

It is, but spams the logs

[burnt dragon]

i give up

[tawdry sky]

Okay, let's say it isn't

ohh I think I get it now

[lethal garnet]

what do you get

[tawdry sky]

The event gets fired before the player has a server

[lethal garnet]

also, you aren’t checking if your optionals are present

[tawdry sky]

That's what I'm saying

I added a check for if there even is a server present

might work now

I take that back

Still throws the error

        if(player.getCurrentServer().isPresent()) {
            if (player.getCurrentServer().get().getServerInfo().getName().equals("asdasdasd")) {
                RegisteredServer server1 = server.getServer("lb01").get();
                RegisteredServer server2 = server.getServer("lb02").get();

                if (server1.getPlayersConnected().size() > server2.getPlayersConnected().size())
                    Utils.sendPlayerToServer(server2, player);
                else if (server1.getPlayersConnected().size() < server2.getPlayersConnected().size())
                    Utils.sendPlayerToServer(server1, player);
            }
        }```

And yes lb01 and lb02 exist

[lethal garnet]

send a paste link to your exception

and what line the line the exception occurs at is

[tawdry sky]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/edfe779d6d9342b5b42f40ef87b1e165

Still the same thing

And I don't see the line anywhere

NEVERMIND

[lethal garnet]

what is line 38 of ServerSwitch.java:39

[tawdry sky]

HOW AM I SO STUPID

        if (player.getCurrentServer().get().getServerInfo().getName().equals("ob-main") && !event.getOriginalServer().getServerInfo().getName().equals("ob-main")) {
            player.sendMessage(Component.text("§eUnloadujem pack.."));
            player.sendResourcePack("https://lendmark.blob.core.windows.net/lendmark/default.zip");
        }```

kill me, please

[lethal garnet]

don’t worry, everyone makes mistakes

[tawdry sky]

lmao

Fixed

[lethal garnet]

have fun developing on velocity!!

[tawdry sky]

Thank you :D

[fossil sundial]

You should use the resource-pack builder
You can get an instance from the proxyServer

[tawdry sky]

Is that something new? Don't think I saw it when I did this a couple months ago. Either way, thanks!

[fossil sundial]

I think it was introduced with 3.1

https://jd.papermc.io/velocity/3.0.0/com/velocitypowered/api/proxy/ProxyServer.html#createResourcePackBuilder(java.lang.String)

Has some neat options for the newer versions

[tawdry sky]

Yeah, that's probably why I haven't implemented it that way. Will do o7

[fossil sundial]

The resource pack status event will fire back with the same resource pack info instance you built from the builder

So you can track it easily

[tawdry sky]

Neat!

[fossil sundial]

That was the whole idea behind this

[tawdry sky]

I'm just glad I got this stupid bug fixed

It's been like that since december and I hate it

[fossil sundial]

Technically you should still check isPresent() before .get()

[tawdry sky]

I am now

That was the bug

[fossil sundial]

The optionals are gonna be replaced with Nullable values on polymer

No reason to have the extra overhead

[tawdry sky]

Yeah

[fossil sundial]

Just coming from bungee where values can be randomly null without documentation we thought we’d be clearer

[tawdry sky]

Also, one more question. I've been trying to move over our chat related stuff over to the proxy, but the formatting doesn't seem to work. Chat filter works fine.

[fossil sundial]

For 1.19?

[tawdry sky]

public class Chat {

    ProxyServer server;
    public Chat(ProxyServer server) {
        this.server = server;
    }

    @Subscribe
    public void ChatEvent(PlayerChatEvent event) {
        Player p = event.getPlayer();

        if(!p.getCurrentServer().get().getServerInfo().getName().contains("ob")) {
            String color = "§7";

            if (p.hasPermission("chatformat.whitecolor"))
                color = "§f";

            String prefix = "§f";

            if(p.hasPermission("group.creeper"))
                prefix = "§2§lCreeper";

            if(p.hasPermission("group.wither"))
                prefix = "§8§lWither";

            if(p.hasPermission("group.dragon"))
                prefix = "§d§lDragon";

            if(p.hasPermission("group.youtube"))
                prefix = "§f§lYou§c§lTube";

            if(p.hasPermission("group.helper"))
                prefix = "§9§lHelper";

            if(p.hasPermission("group.moderator"))
                prefix = "§b§lMod";

            if(p.hasPermission("group.builder"))
                prefix = "§a§lBuilder";

            if(p.hasPermission("group.admin"))
                prefix = "§c§lAdmin";

            if(p.hasPermission("group.majitel"))
                prefix = "§a§lMaji§2§ltel";


            String format = prefix+color+p.getUsername() + "§8» " + color + event.getMessage();

            event.setResult(PlayerChatEvent.ChatResult.message(format));
        }

        Pattern pattern = Pattern.compile(String.join("|", Main.badwords), Pattern.CASE_INSENSITIVE);
        Matcher matcher = pattern.matcher(event.getMessage());
        boolean found = matcher.find();

        if (found) {
            //p.sendMessage("§c§m-----------------------------------------------------");
            //p.sendMessage("§cNadávanie a obchádzanie chatového filtru je proti pravidlám.");
            //p.sendMessage("§cAk sa pokúsiš o obchádzanie filtru, budeš umlčaný!");
            //p.sendMessage("§c§m-----------------------------------------------------");

            p.sendMessage(Component.text("" +
                    "§c§m-----------------------------------------------------\n" +
                    "§cNadávanie a obchádzanie chatového filtru je proti pravidlám.\n" +
                    "§cAk sa pokúsiš o obchádzanie filtru, budeš umlčaný!\n" +
                    "§c§m-----------------------------------------------------").clickEvent(ClickEvent.openUrl("https://lendmark.sk/pravidla")));

            //p.playSound(p.getLocation(), Sound.BLOCK_ANVIL_PLACE, 10, 1);
            p.playSound(Sound.sound(Key.key("anvil_place"), Sound.Source.BLOCK, 1f, 1f));
            event.setResult(PlayerChatEvent.ChatResult.denied());
        }
    }```

[tawdry sky]

All version really

[tawdry sky]

Wrote this before 1.19 anyway

[fossil sundial]

Oh yea that’s a bug

Will be fixed soon

[tawdry sky]

Ah okay, thought I was doing something wrong

Thx

[fossil sundial]

Also the audio methods won’t work

[tawdry sky]

Yeah, I saw

[fossil sundial]

We don’t implement those. They’re in there because adventure has them

[tawdry sky]

Ah, okay

[fossil sundial]

It’s out of spec to throw an exception

So we just don’t do anything

[tawdry sky]

Guess I'll have to live without BLOCK_ANVIL_PLACE

Another thing, is there some Velocity alternative to this?

            String color = "§7";
            if (p.hasPermission("chatformat.color"))
                e.setMessage(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', e.getMessage()));

            if (p.hasPermission("chatformat.whitecolor"))
                color = "§f";

            String format = papi+color+"{PLAYER_NAME} §8» "+color+"{MESSAGE}";

            format = format.replace("{PLAYER_NAME}", p.getName());
            format = ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', format);```

[fossil sundial]

Sound requires tracking entities- we aren’t keen on doing that

[tawdry sky]

From our Bukkit chat plugin

[fossil sundial]

Adventure has a legacy chat serializer

[tawdry sky]

Fine with me, just wanted to try it

[tawdry sky]

is that a bad or a good thing

[fossil sundial]

It would work for what you’re doing here

But you should really take a look at minimessage

It’s new in 3.1.2

[tawdry sky]

Could MiniMessage achieve this?

(in the replace chat messages thing case)

[fossil sundial]

The format is more intuitive than §something

https://docs.adventure.kyori.net/minimessage/

[tawdry sky]

For me as a developer sure, but players are used to & for some reason

It's a perk you can buy with a rank (since I prefer to not do p2w perks)

[steady trellis]

& / § are legacy but you can use LegacyComponentSerializer

[fossil sundial]

Yea for that the legacy component serializer works

[steady trellis]

i thought 1.19 included MM auto parsing & and §?

[tawdry sky]

is that a adventure thing?

[steady trellis]

maybe only in paper

[steady trellis]

yeah

[fossil sundial]

I’m not sure, you’d have to ask the adventure guys

[steady trellis]

https://javadoc.io/doc/net.kyori/adventure-text-serializer-legacy/latest/net/kyori/adventure/text/serializer/legacy/LegacyComponentSerializer.html

[steady trellis]

gotcha

[steady trellis]

this is probably not the right URL but it is the 3rd result on google 💀

[fossil sundial]

It’s indeed not the right url https://jd.adventure.kyori.net

[steady trellis]

you would do LegacyComponentSerializer.legacyAmpersand().deserialize(string)

[steady trellis]

google spiderbots failing

shows me outdated versions of adventure api instead

[fossil sundial]

That’s the reason I didn’t link to a specific version but the index

[steady trellis]

ah xD

[steady trellis]

i mean thrus:

[fossil sundial]

Yes

[tawdry sky]

I'm a bit lost

            if(p.hasPermission("chatformat.color"))
                event.setResult(LegacyComponentSerializer.legacyAmpersand().deserialize(event.getMessage()));```

It's yelling at me that it wants a TextComponent, which if I do that it starts yelling at me that it wants a chat result

[steady trellis]

one sec

time to pull up JD unless five ninjas me

[rich hawk]

no, minimessage does not parse legacy

[tawdry sky]

Wait I might have it

[atomic leaf]

https://papermc.io/javadocs

[steady trellis]

u would do ChatResult.message(component)

i assume

for the setResult

[tawdry sky]

               event.setResult(LegacyComponentSerializer.legacyAmpersand().deserialize(PlayerChatEvent.ChatResult.message(event.getMessage().toString())));

also demands a text component

well now it wants a string

god damn

[steady trellis]

no nono

do

event.setResult(ChatResult.message(legacycomponent...))

[tawdry sky]

I just realised that may have been useless

This is what happens

            String format = prefix+color+p.getUsername() + "§8» " + color + event.getMessage();

            event.setResult(PlayerChatEvent.ChatResult.message(format));```

[steady trellis]

yes so now

[tawdry sky]

            if(p.hasPermission("chatformat.color"))
                color = LegacyComponentSerializer.legacyAmpersand().deserialize("&").toString();

            if (p.hasPermission("chatformat.whitecolor"))
                color = "§f";

[steady trellis]

surround format with the legacycomponentserializer

[tawdry sky]

so how about this?

I guess

[tawdry sky]

Oh there

[steady trellis]

W

[tawdry sky]

I get what you're saying now

[steady trellis]

ye

[steady trellis]

this is not how u use legacycomponentserializer brw

deserializing & only i mean

but i think u know how it works now

good luck sir

[tawdry sky]

That's a string, it wants a text component

            String format = prefix+color+p.getUsername() + "§8» " + color + event.getMessage();

            if(p.hasPermission("chatformat.color")) {event.setResult(PlayerChatEvent.ChatResult.message(LegacyComponentSerializer.legacyAmpersand().serialize(format)));} else {event.setResult(PlayerChatEvent.ChatResult.message(format));}

[steady trellis]

oh

use i believe

PlainTextComponentSerializer

for the else

that will keep it plain with no colors or decorations iirc

[tawdry sky]

Won't that reset the prefixes and shit?

[steady trellis]

hmmm

well you could do this

so get the legacycomponentserializer

serialize the prefix and formatting etc

then u can append another component

in which case u can append the message

so legacycomponentserializer, serialize prefix, formatting, etc,. then append plaintextcomponentserializer and serialize the message

[rich hawk]

if you’re hard coding the format why not just use components

[tawdry sky]

I'm not exactly sure how to use components (as in replacing stuff ext.)

It's something new to me

[steady trellis]

iirc its

[atomic leaf]

https://docs.adventure.kyori.net/

[steady trellis]

.replaceText(lambda -> lambda.matchliteral(..)) or something like that

its pretty straightforward

u can match regex or literal

[tawdry sky]

I meant variables

e.g. p.getUsername() ext.

[steady trellis]

wym

[tawdry sky]

For example in that context with the chat formatting

[steady trellis]

sí

[tawdry sky]

Because in a String all you need to really do is "asdasd" + p.getUsername() and it's there

not sure if that were to work with components

That's why I've tried avoiding them in the past

[reef jacinth]

No, you can't, you would use append to combine multiple components together.

[steady trellis]

then ig just stick with this

if i remember correctly, replacing would like like

String format = "%prefix% %username%: %message%";
Component component = LegacyComponentSerializer.legacyAmpersand().deserialize(format).replaceText(config -> config.match("%prefix%").replacement(prefix))```

i don't remember tho

https://jd.adventure.kyori.net/api/4.11.0/net/kyori/adventure/text/TextReplacementConfig.Builder.html

unsure if you have to do replaceText per each placeholder

[tawdry sky]

I think I'll cancel that VIP perk

Thanks tho

[steady trellis]

you don't have to do it that way, there's always

String format = prefix + username;
Component formatComponent = LegacyComponentSerializer.legacyAmpersand().deserialize(format);
formatComponent = formatComponent.append(PlainTextComponentSerializer.plainText().deserialize(event.getMessage());
event.setResult(ChatResult.message(formatComponent));```

[tawdry sky]

interesting

[steady trellis]

si

[tawdry sky]

so this would (theoretically) replace the & in the things?

[nova sparrow]

Using a ComponentSerializer, how can i serialize a translatable component (add color from hex etc)

[steady trellis]

the legacy will, the plain will not

plain = well, plain

legacy will format msgs with & or § depending if you use legacyAmpersand or legacySection

legacyAmpersand is &

so as you see on the 2nd line, we deserialize the formatting, which will format the prefix and username assuming they contain & and §

[tawdry sky]

wait

[steady trellis]

for the 3rd line, we append a plain message (the message sent.. i think?)

[tawdry sky]

wouldn't it be easier to just replace all & with § for String color?

[steady trellis]

no because either way it is legacy

so even with § you'd have to use legacycomponentserializer, but use legacySection

[tawdry sky]

Yeah

Okay, thanks!

[steady trellis]

good luck

remember to check out adventure's javadocs and other documentation as well

[atomic leaf]

https://docs.adventure.kyori.net/

[nova sparrow]

How can I apply a serializer to a TranslatableComponent

[steady trellis]

sorry chief, never used translatable

what are you trying to do

[tawdry sky]

haha maybe this will work

            if(p.hasPermission("chatformat.color")) {
                if(event.getMessage().contains("&")) {
                        format.replace("&", "§");
                }
            }```

will make it a component later

my brain stopped working about 10 minutes ago

[steady trellis]

yeah but there's no point of replacing either way

and also

if someone sends a message

i.e.

they're like hi i like this & that

then it will replace & with §

[nova sparrow]

https://github.com/Matt-MX/AnnouncerVelocity/blob/master/src/main/java/com/mattmx/announcer/util/VelocityChat.java

If thats what you're struggling wth

[tawdry sky]

so it might be a good idea to make it a pattern you recon

[tawdry sky]

Yeah, kinda

[steady trellis]

why are you trying to replace it though

there's no advantage to replacing it because it has to go through the legacycomponentserializer anyways

the serializer will handle all the formatting for you

[nova sparrow]

            if(p.hasPermission("chatformat.color")) {
                if(event.getMessage().contains("&")) {
                        VelocityChat.color(message);
                } else {
                        Component.text(message);
                }
            }

I'd use something like that

obviously thats not finished but you get the jist

[tawdry sky]

Yeah

I'll finish it later

I guess

It's like 40 degrees outside

[steady trellis]

[nova sparrow]

    private static final LegacyComponentSerializer serializer = LegacyComponentSerializer.builder().character('&').hexCharacter('#').hexColors().build();

    public static TranslatableComponent translatable(String key) {
        return (TranslatableComponent) serializer.deserialize(serializer.serialize(Component.translatable(key)));
    }

this feels very wrong

[steady trellis]

what are you trying to do

[nova sparrow]

Just apply hex colors and such to a translatable component

And return it as a TranslatableComponent

[steady trellis]

ahh i see

is it not working?

[nova sparrow]

Can't even tes it

[steady trellis]

errors?

[nova sparrow]

Having some super strange issue in help channel

nah just something in velocity bugging out for a few people

Either that or my environment

[steady trellis]

are you running

viaversion?

[nova sparrow]

Yes

[steady trellis]

is it up to date?

[nova sparrow]

I uninstalle it

Yes

Its not via

[steady trellis]

is your velocity up to date?

[nova sparrow]

It's not a plugin issue

its an internal issue

I've already talked with Five about it

its super weird

[steady trellis]

what is on your backend?

protocollib?

you tried without plugins

and all up to date server softwares?

paper is up to date and velocity?

[nova sparrow]

Yeah latest everything

Weird thing is it just stopped working properly after a restart

[steady trellis]

and without your plugin does it work?

[nova sparrow]

Yes I obv tested that

[steady trellis]

so your plugin is causing the issue except it is an internal issue

are you shading adventure by any chance?

into your plugin

[nova sparrow]

No

What

I told you its not a plugin issue

it is literally just velocity

[steady trellis]

yes, but you mentioned you tested without your plugin

so i interpreted that as

[nova sparrow]

Ive tested with no plugins

[steady trellis]

"it works without my plugin but not with it"

ah

gotcha

[steady trellis]

and still no go i assume

hm

[nova sparrow]

Yea

[steady trellis]

have you tried letting your config regenerate?

[nova sparrow]

Looks like a very common rising issue

[steady trellis]

or a fresh velocity install

no idea then

[nova sparrow]

Few other people have had this today alone

[steady trellis]

rip

[nova sparrow]

Me and a friend who was running a local env, as well as another user

All the same issue and no solution has been found, nor the cause of it

Regenerating the config does nothing

Same issue

its really strange

[steady trellis]

rip very weird

[nova sparrow]

Also still have no clue about applying the RGB and whatnot to a translatable component

[fossil sundial]

What are you even trying to accomplish here
I don’t know of a single part the velocity api has that doesn’t accept a generic component as parameter

[nova sparrow]

Well I want to be able to return a TranslatableComponent, with RGB and whatnot applied

[fossil sundial]

So?

[nova sparrow]

Then I want to be able to modify arguments

[fossil sundial]

I don’t see an issue

Translatable components are translatable components

[steady trellis]

oh wait yeah, matt, why do you serialize to legacy then deserialize from legacy

[nova sparrow]

Would it be better to apply arguments before applying RGB

[nova sparrow]

Can't cast that to a translatable component

[fossil sundial]

There’s a translatable component builder

But otherwise Component.translatable(key).color(…)

keys must not contain anything but themselves

Otherwise they’re not translatable

like “multiplayer.disconnect.outdated_client”

That is a translatable key

[nova sparrow]

Yeah I understand that

[fossil sundial]

And that key must only be that key.

If you look at the json this translates to:
You’ll always have the formatting outside the translatable section

[fossil sundial]

The result is the message that is processed. Not a component.

[nova sparrow]

With a regular message you'd do something like this

    public static Component format(String message) {
        return serializer.deserialize(message);
    }```

Would apply formatting and whatnot

[fossil sundial]

so?

That’s legacy

[nova sparrow]

    public static TranslatableComponent translatable(String key) {
        return Component.translatable(key); // apply formatting here 
    }```

[fossil sundial]

Otherwise the message must be a json

[nova sparrow]

So is it not possible to apply the formatting and still return that as a TranslatableComponent?

[rich hawk]

.

sorry for ping

[fossil sundial]

It is if you apply the formatting to an existing component …..

Components make up compounds

They’re json elements

You have to understand that calling .color(…) wraps the translatable component in another component

Which is why what you’re doing won’t ever work

[nova sparrow]

All I needed to know is that it wouldnt work tbh

I was getting that feeling

[fossil sundial]

Translatable components themselves cannot be styled but if you wrap components around them like with .color(…) then that will work

[tawdry sky]

Can you send players interactive books from velocity using adventure?

or is that like not implemented

Would be useful for GDPR shit

[valid gazelle]

Probably not, but if its possible the most you could do is just open.the ui, not actually give them a book in inventory

regardless its probably best with a plugin on back end server and maybe some syncing between them and proxy

Idk if there's any implementation on the proxy rn though

[tawdry sky]

I want to open the UI

just your classic "You can steal my data" prompt

[fossil sundial]

Sorry; also a feature that requires a lot more tracking
To use it the proxy would need to interact with the player inventory

That said

I may make a plugin someday in the future that will allow usage of these features

(Requires a plugin downstream to work obviously)

[burnt dragon]

i mean, would be easy if it's a "on first join" thing

no need to worry about putting an item back, if that makes sense

all you'd do then is construct the packets and send them over

[potent thunder]

How can i get the plugin config?

Or do i need to implement it by myself?

[fossil sundial]

Velocity bundles sponge configurate 3

https://configurate.aoeu.xyz for more info

[tawdry sky]

I've got a very weird bug on my hands

With my /lobby command thingy

For some reason, it only works on either the lobby servers or "ob-main"

I'm probably blind, but I don't see what could be wrong

if done on other servers nothing happens

package lendmark.net.commands;

import com.velocitypowered.api.command.CommandSource;
import com.velocitypowered.api.command.SimpleCommand;
import com.velocitypowered.api.proxy.Player;
import com.velocitypowered.api.proxy.ProxyServer;
import com.velocitypowered.api.proxy.server.RegisteredServer;
import lendmark.net.Main;
import lendmark.net.utils.Utils;

import java.io.*;
import java.net.URL;
import java.net.URLConnection;

import java.util.Optional;
import java.util.Random;

public class lobby implements SimpleCommand {
    ProxyServer server;
    public lobby(ProxyServer server) {
        this.server = server;
    }

    @Override
    public void execute(Invocation invocation) {
        CommandSource commandSource = invocation.source();
        Player player = (Player)commandSource;

        RegisteredServer server1 = server.getServer("lb01").get();
        RegisteredServer server2 = server.getServer("lb02").get();

        if (server1.getPlayersConnected().size() > server2.getPlayersConnected().size())
            Utils.sendPlayerToServer(server2, player);
        else if (server1.getPlayersConnected().size() < server2.getPlayersConnected().size())
            Utils.sendPlayerToServer(server1, player);
    }
}```

the only other things that could be interfering with it are the ServerPreConnectEvent and the ServerPreConnectEvent

ServerPreConnectEvent

    @Subscribe
    public void ServerPreConnectEvent(ServerPreConnectEvent event) {
        Player player = event.getPlayer();

        if(player.getCurrentServer().isPresent()) {
            if (player.getCurrentServer().get().getServerInfo().getName().equals("ob-main") && !event.getOriginalServer().getServerInfo().getName().equals("ob-main")) {
                player.sendMessage(Component.text("§eUnloadujem pack.."));
                player.sendResourcePack("https://lendmark.blob.core.windows.net/lendmark/default.zip");
            }

            if (player.getCurrentServer().get().getServerInfo().getName().equals("auth")) {
                RegisteredServer server1 = server.getServer("lb01").get();
                RegisteredServer server2 = server.getServer("lb02").get();

                if (server1.getPlayersConnected().size() > server2.getPlayersConnected().size())
                    Utils.sendPlayerToServer(server2, player);
                else if (server1.getPlayersConnected().size() < server2.getPlayersConnected().size())
                    Utils.sendPlayerToServer(server1, player);
            }
        }
}

ServerPostConnectEvent

    @Subscribe
    public void ServerPostConnectEvent(ServerPostConnectEvent event) {
        Player player = event.getPlayer();

        ByteArrayDataOutput out = ByteStreams.newDataOutput();
        out.writeUTF("PlayerVersionChannel");
        out.writeUTF(player.getCurrentServer().get().getServerInfo().getName());
        out.writeInt(Via.getAPI().getPlayerVersion(player));
        out.writeInt(server.getPlayerCount());

        player.getCurrentServer().get().sendPluginMessage( MinecraftChannelIdentifier.from("lm:playerversionchannel"), out.toByteArray());
    }
}

[fossil sundial]

Don’t send a resource pack in pre connect. The client will always decline a resource pack while it can’t display the prompt

[tawdry sky]

That's fine, players coming from the Oneblock server have already accepted a pack as it's forced there. It only serves to reset it after they go for example on a different mini-game

So they don't have the different UI elements ext. for no reason

[fossil sundial]

You’re rebalancing twice

[tawdry sky]

Line?

[fossil sundial]

You call sendplayertoserver in the pre connect too

Why

You already have a connection in flight

[tawdry sky]

..is there a better way to do that?

[fossil sundial]

The event won’t be called if the player is not under way to be connected to a new server

Why are you trying to shoot yourself in the foot

[tawdry sky]

That's intended behavior

Auth has the GDPR shit ext.

[fossil sundial]

That’s unsupported btw

[tawdry sky]

Would be kinda useless if the player got sent to another server which has logs before giving consent

[fossil sundial]

every time I see auth I have to figure it’s a standin for a piracy plugin

[tawdry sky]

You don't understand. The only thing a player does there is say "I agree to asda ext. ext."

If they have consent all the server does it send them on their way

[fossil sundial]

That’s fine then

I’m not sure I follow your flow then

But don’t send a player elsewhere while you have a connection in flight

You’ll create a loop

Cause sending a connection to flight causes another connection to be in flight

See the issue?

[tawdry sky]

Yeah

I'll probably add something to cancel the old connection

But that still doesn't solve the issue why only the servers in the event do something with the hub command

[fossil sundial]

Now you lost me

[tawdry sky]

My issue is that when I do the /lobby command as seen above on lb01, lb02 or ob-main, it works

But if I do it on one of the other servers it doesn't do anything

Just seems to get canned

It's likely something incredibly dumb, but I'm blind

Something seems to be cancelling it, but I don't see the cause

See the issue?

anybody else

[tawdry sky]

sad

[nova sparrow]

@bold wharf I apologise for the ping but i think that yesterday you (or Five) mentioned about Velocity's debug mode? How can i enable that

[bold wharf]

I don't think that there is one bar specific packets

I may of said that I really needed to add one at some point

but, not aware of an existing one.

[nova sparrow]

Im still having an issue where i cant ping nor connect to my local server

[bold wharf]

(outside of the various system flag specific ones)

[nova sparrow]

Me and a friend both encountered this yesterday seemingly after a restart

No clue what could be causing it at all

Doesn't show in console when i attempt to ping the server and instantly shows the Disconnected screen when i attempt to connect

[bold wharf]

I mean, that gives very little for us to go off

[nova sparrow]

Well that's virtually all I have to go off myslef

I am struggling to even try debugging this

[bold wharf]

I mean, if you can do code stuff, ServerChannelInitializer

add a thing there to see if the channel bootstraps

but, I mean, adding logging for an issue we have 0 basis of is pretty "no go"

Shit like that is generally "incrementally flood the software with logger statements until you nail down where shit is going"

"Disconnected" is literally just the generic "we where told to fuck off"

[nova sparrow]

looks like its initializing a connection

[lethal garnet]

does velocity support sending sounds to an audience?

[bronze yoke]

no, sounds require a location and velocity doesn’t track that

[lethal garnet]

alright thanks

[burnt dragon]

(that's also not really why, it would need a registry which velocity would have to maintain for like all supported versions)

[lethal garnet]

i mean, you could just rely on the dev to enter a key?

and a location?

or am i missing something

[burnt dragon]

yes you are

sounds aren't all named

[queen path]

Hello, is there a way to get the players locale even before they connect to any server? or are in a world loading screen?

[silver herald]

hi, im trying to initialize a discord bot using JDA in the proxy initialize event, but i keep getting this error. can somebody help me out? im not too experienced with java

heres the code

[sour current]

JDA likely isn't being shaded, you need to setup shading in your build.gradle/pom.xml

[silver herald]

i see, are there any resources where i can learn more about that?

i dont know much about java

[sour current]

the JDA wiki has a page for setting it up with gradle at https://github.com/DV8FromTheWorld/JDA/wiki/2)-IntelliJ-IDEA-Setup, for maven see https://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-shade-plugin/usage.html

[silver herald]

thank you, ill check it out

[old plover]

hi guys

how to send title and subtitle

[burnt dragon]

https://docs.adventure.kyori.net/title.html

[old plover]

I don't find anything

ty

[willow bone]

It's after login success, appears to be in the Forge handshake immediately after START is handled on both sides, the client is disconnected with SPacketDisconnect
Forge claims it receives an unregistered packet, Velocity disconnects the user.

Velocity:

[connected player] Player (/103.121.18.77:1142) has connected
[debug] Encoding packet SetCompression with id 3
[debug] Encoding packet ServerLoginSuccess with id 2
[debug] Encoding packet Handshake with id 0
[debug] Encoding packet ServerLogin with id 0
[server connection] Player -> forge has connected
[server connection] Player -> forge has disconnected
[connected player] Player (/<snip>:1142): unable to connect to server forge
com.velocitypowered.proxy.util.except.QuietRuntimeException: The connection to the remote server was unexpectedly closed.
This is usually because the remote server does not have BungeeCord IP forwarding correctly enabled.
See https://velocitypowered.com/wiki/users/forwarding/ for instructions on how to configure player info forwarding correctly.
[debug] Encoding packet Disconnect with id 26

Forge:

[Server thread/TRACE] [FML]: Handshake channel activating
[Server thread/DEBUG] [FML]: FMLHandshakeServerState: null->FMLHandshakeServerState$1:START
[Server thread/DEBUG] [FML]:   Next: HELLO
[Server thread/INFO] [net.minecraft.network.NetHandlerPlayServer]: S_Doppler lost connection: Internal Exception: io.netty.handler.codec.EncoderException: java.io.IOException: Can't serialize unregistered packet

Client:

[Netty Client IO #18/TRACE] [FML]: Handshake channel activating
[Netty Client IO #18/DEBUG] [FML]: FMLHandshakeClientState: null->FMLHandshakeClientState$1:START
[Netty Client IO #18/DEBUG] [FML]:   Next: HELLO
[Netty Client IO #18/INFO] [FML]: Unexpected packet during modded negotiation - assuming vanilla or keepalives : net.minecraft.network.play.server.SPacketDisconnect

I've since rebuilt forge with some extra debug logging, it looks like the START state completes on both ends, but the HELLO state never begins; my conclusion up to this point is Velocity is mishandling a retransmitted packet.

Why it only occurs only for new players on ~14% of first time connections https://i.cwlf.uk/dJNag, I have no clue, presumably something to do with overrideDim; but it doesn't occur if we remove Velocity from the stack.

[old plover]

not working

[burnt dragon]

it does work

[old plover]

I can't view title

Component mainTitle = Component.text(traductColour("&5Sei sotto controllo anti-cheat!")); Component subtitle = Component.text(traductColour("&7Leggi la chat e non uscire!")); final Title title = Title.title(mainTitle, subtitle); target.showTitle(title);

[fossil sundial]

Forge 1.13 and newer isn’t supported; what are you’re trying to do here?

[fossil sundial]

Where are you sending that from? The client will ignore it if it can’t display it

[agile ore]

since it looks like you're mixing legacy and components, make sure to try it on a vanilla client, lunar is known to break stuff with components

(or just don't mix them)

[fast canyon]

do any of you guys know of a working** Global TAB player list for Velocity**? many weeks researching and testing velocity plugins for it without luck and mixed results, it just doesn't work, some kind of work, but when players leave or switch servers, the TAB doesnt update, I know TAB by Netz was perfect but, with all the drama is not supported for Velocity anymore, works but only on back end servers and NO global tab list 😦

[nova sparrow]

i’ve seen plenty of global ones work myself

[fast canyon]

example?

[nova sparrow]

https://github.com/Aang23/GlobalTab

old as hell

parts of the code may be relevant to replicate it to modern standards if necessary

[fast canyon]

no .jar

have to build it yourself

[nova sparrow]

yeah then build it yourself smh

[fast canyon]

I saw that one before, gonna give it a quick try, but I am pretty sure it will be the same result as the others, that are that old, when players switch servers ,the playerlist does not update

[nova sparrow]

Then add that yourself

i don’t think it’d be that hard really

maybe the sorting would be but like i said it’s done all the time

[fast canyon]

from 3 years ago, what do you think java 11? -_-

[bold wharf]

I mean

that's a stupidly old version of gradle

[nova sparrow]

Maybe it’s just best to make your own with similar logic and whatnot to the one i linked

[magic forum]

@fossil sundial a semi stable version of my plugin just got released so jus so you know https://github.com/adde0109/Ambassador

The limit is the Velocity's api. I can't do proper ping forwarding that FML2 understands with the api limitations

One thing I would like for the sake of showing FML2 medlist at ping is to allow plugins customize the Server ping more

I also got bstat working and my plugin is already running on a network

Right now I want as many people as possible to test and report to me if they find any issues or want to request a feature. I'm open.

[fossil sundial]

After my exam period I’m open to suggestions with the api for server pings

But not before

[magic forum]

Ok. Understanding

I just found out that the recent pixelmon mod ships with intergrated forge client reset packet mod

So I will try to integrate with that so people that has the mod can use it.

To be clear it's optional to have the client side mod

But if the mod is already there, why wouldn't it use it

[twin ingot]

Hi, after velocity update to latest version for support 1.19, I have issue with messages he is showing in the actionbar not in the chat.

[bronze yoke]

update viaversion to the latest dev build

[twin ingot]

Thank you ❤️

[old plover]

from velocity

[old plover]

for target

[modest socket]

I've been trying to create a Velocity plugin for about 2 days but only get the error The plugin file Nerf in Minecraft Proxy.jar appears to be a Bukkit or BungeeCord plugin.. Here is the code. I usually build with Intelij Artifact. Hope someone can help me

Main.java

package net.nim.proxy;

import com.google.inject.Inject;
import com.velocitypowered.api.command.CommandManager;
import com.velocitypowered.api.command.CommandMeta;
import com.velocitypowered.api.event.Subscribe;
import com.velocitypowered.api.event.proxy.ProxyInitializeEvent;
import com.velocitypowered.api.plugin.Plugin;
import com.velocitypowered.api.proxy.ProxyServer;
import net.nim.proxy.commands.TestCommand;

import java.util.logging.Logger;

@Plugin(id = "NIM-Proxy", name = "Nerf in Minecraft Proxy", version = "1.0", description = "Proxy Plugin", authors = {"Jonah Schmidt"})
public class Main {
    final ProxyServer proxyServer;
    final Logger logger;

    @Inject
    public Main(ProxyServer proxyServer, Logger logger) {
        this.proxyServer = proxyServer;
        this.logger = logger;

        logger.info("Nerf in Minecraft Proxy Plugin Loaded!");
    }

    @Subscribe
    public void onProxyInitialization(ProxyInitializeEvent event) {
        CommandManager commandManager = proxyServer.getCommandManager();
        CommandMeta commandMeta = commandManager.metaBuilder("test").build();
        commandManager.register(commandMeta, new TestCommand());
    }
}

TestCommand.java

package net.nim.proxy.commands;

import com.velocitypowered.api.command.SimpleCommand;
import net.kyori.adventure.text.Component;
import net.kyori.adventure.text.format.NamedTextColor;

public class TestCommand implements SimpleCommand {

    @Override
    public void execute(Invocation invocation) {
        invocation.source().sendMessage(Component.text("Test!").color(NamedTextColor.AQUA));
    }
}

[oblique haven]

do you have any resources?

like a plugin.yml or smth

[modest socket]

no

[oblique haven]

weird

[modest socket]

oh wait

this ?

I deleted the file now I get the error Did not find a valid velocity-plugin.json

[nova sparrow]

plugin.yml shouldn't really effect anything

and ive never seen a velocity-plugin.json in a velocity plugin

[modest socket]

Before I deleted the plugin.yml I got the error The plugin file Nerf in Minecraft Proxy.jar appears to be a Bukkit or BungeeCord plugin. The error is now

[sour current]

Use a proper build tool like gradle or maven

[oblique haven]

what's your build tool 0,o ant script?

[sour current]

they mentioned they're using the intellij artifact thing

[oblique haven]

hm, well you need to run the velocity annotations processor

[modest socket]

yes

[modest socket]

what ?

[sour current]

https://docs.papermc.io/velocity/dev/creating-your-first-plugin#set-up-your-build-system

[modest socket]

I don't use Maven or Gradle. Tried it at the beginning but couldn't manage to create a project with it

[burnt dragon]

well unless you think you're up for writing your own annotation processor i think now is a good time to learn

[modest socket]

okay

[sour current]

If you download the minecraft development intellij plugin it'll setup the project for you when creating it

[modest socket]

Okay, I'll try, give me a moment, please

This right ?

[sour current]

Yes

[modest socket]

Okay, I have now set up a Velocity project and when I try to build it I get the error error: Invalid ID for plugin net.nim.proxy.Main. IDs must start alphabetically, have alphanumeric characters, and can contain dashes or underscores.

[burnt dragon]

pretty clear error

your ID doesn't follow that

[modest socket]

am... I don't understand

[bold wharf]

I think it expects a lowercase name

[modest socket]

I have to lowercase this?

[bold wharf]

the id shouldn't have .'s inside of it

it's an id

[modest socket]

oh okay now i unterstand

Ah it works thank you very much

[fickle grail]

@fossil sundial
Hi, I want to make a pull request with a slight change inside ConnectionHandshakeEvent and I have two options.

1. Pass the whole Handshake instance inside the event
2. Pass unmodified Handshake#getServerAddress()

Which option do you prefer? or maybe there is a reason why this data is not passed to the event? or i should just make a fork for myself?

[fossil sundial]

I’m not up for debate till my exams are over on the 25th
Ping me again then

[weary moth]

https://github.com/PaperMC/Velocity/issues/756 when

where & who do i give money

[burnt dragon]

me

[weary moth]

oh my god it's corey my second favourite person

[oblique haven]

give me 1,000$ and I'll do it

❤️

[bold wharf]

I have an idea for a way to do it

I just have this whole like, thing where it feels like somebody ripped a layer of skin off my brain

I also kinda don't like it either

(but, idk a better way to do it)

[fossil sundial]

Do keep the queue in mind that we will need. That’s all I’m saying

[bold wharf]

thoughts was on incoming, place in a queue

fire event

once event has fired, basically while (queue.peek.isComplete, senderion)

[fossil sundial]

Yes but the queue is also there to allow the proxy to fit messages in there it will send on its own

Remember commands are only partially signable

[bold wharf]

wait

they sing?!

[oblique haven]

only partially

[fossil sundial]

?

[bold wharf]

singable

[fossil sundial]

Oh

[bold wharf]

❤️

[oblique haven]

(quickly edits the post)

[fossil sundial]

Only the commands registered as chatlike through the chat registry

So do that first

We will need it to do this properly

Chat registry > Time disposition > Queue > Queue insertion

[oblique haven]

well we just have to use (essentially) what log4j uses to retain "order" internally, potentially some priority queue

[fossil sundial]

No priority. Signatures are absolute

[bold wharf]

doing the queue is trivial in a sense, insertion is a pita

but, you just need to order based on time

[weary moth]

how have you not have 5 million users complain about this issue on minehut @oblique haven

[oblique haven]

we've had a few

[bold wharf]

big caveat is popping said queue without just going back and making it blocking

[oblique haven]

not too many users on proxy->proxy where the issue sits (for us)

[fossil sundial]

This is a queue with side-channel

You need to be able to insert something sideways with believable time spacing

Or else the server will raise a stink about too quick messages

Which is why velocity also needs an incoming delimiter

This will be a magic waitForApproprtiateInsertion() loop internally

[oblique haven]

why are we not insertion sorting here

[bold wharf]

Issue with insertion sorting is, well, racy

[fossil sundial]

This will end up in a magic queue internally either way

[oblique haven]

any solution is going to have some kind of issue with high-latency systems

[fossil sundial]

Which is why I said store time disposition

[oblique haven]

I don't see a very easy way around that

[fossil sundial]

Time disposition also takes ping into account

[bold wharf]

only foolproof solution is to just remove the proxies interaction with this stuff

[oblique haven]

to calculate some magic delta which flushes the queue?

[bold wharf]

No

You work out the time difference between you and the client

so that when you go to add a thing to run, you don't end up fucking over the client

[oblique haven]

that'd be the delta, yeah

[fossil sundial]

A stupid offset rule

[weary moth]

what is bungeecord doing

[oblique haven]

[oblique haven]

ignoring it prolly

[fossil sundial]

Removing it

[bold wharf]

yea, but nothing to do with flushing, it just's delta'd

[weary moth]

[fossil sundial]

Well

[bold wharf]

bungee removed support for sending that stuff to the server

they also just run pretty much everything on the network threads

[oblique haven]

if we're not buffering calls then we're going to have nasty race conditions

[fossil sundial]

Bungee throws an IllegalArgumentException() if you call any send message or command function on the proxy with 1.19+

So they don’t care

[oblique haven]

clients care about ordered messages from other clients right?

[fossil sundial]

Yes but that’s an issue the server has to deal with

[oblique haven]

so we're assuming the packets coming from the server are ordered?

then this makes the whole thing a bit more sensible

[fossil sundial]

We don’t process server sent packets remember?

[oblique haven]

right

but we have to queue them in a way which makes sense to the client

if the proxy sends a message it has to mark it in the queue so we have to handle it at some capacity, which I assume is what the issue is for

[bold wharf]

We don't care about what comes from the server

we care about what we're passing to the server

[oblique haven]

so the server is the one caring about ordered-chat, not the client?

interesting, okei

[fossil sundial]

Velocity doesn’t support sending signed messages as chat to the client for now
That’s another project entirely

[oblique haven]

multi-proxy environments will suffer from this I think

[fossil sundial]

There’s an issue for it

[oblique haven]

right

[fossil sundial]

Let’s leave the church in town for now and focus on the order issue

Whatever you come up with here

I probably won’t like it
But in all fairness I can’t think of a good solution myself

random bullshit go

[bold wharf]

ez

move chat back to the network thread

runs

This is part of why I think a custom messaging channel for modern proxies might be an idea

[oblique haven]

well if chat order is really broken with the client, we should handle it accordingly, this doesn't seem all that intense

[bold wharf]

maybe something cleaner than bungees messaging channel if people have ideas of that mess

[oblique haven]

yeah, would probably be nice for communication

[bold wharf]

But, then we could add things like a command/chat channel and just pass the unsigned crap through and let the server determine what it wants to do with it

Not that that doesn't create issues of it's own, but, y'know

[oblique haven]

I don't think ordered chat -> server is going to be necessarily difficult, especially if we're trying to fulfill the player's personal chat queue

[fossil sundial]

I would be very happy if we could just add this to the velocity forwarding protocol: Ignore timestamp if timestamp is -6969 for example

But alas

That’s not a good option

[oblique haven]

I might take a crack at an implementation later tonight, I have a few ideas

[bold wharf]

I mean, I was just debating on that while using the pisser

It's far from ideal

But, I mean

it would solve so many other fucking issues

that would deal with the disposition mess at least afaik

then for chat, as I say, append future or whatever to a queue, fire event (which completes future on post), and after that, just have a task which drains the queue

only way I can see doing that without having some perma thread tryna deal with the queue

[oblique haven]

I don't think I'm understanding "out of order" chat, is there some writeup done on it? I know there was a write up done on signed messages specifically

[bold wharf]

messages have a timestamp on them

out of order means that it got a packet where the timestamp was earlier than the last packet we got

There is some caveats here that a badly timed clock sync, especially on modern hardware, can get them real good, but, we also pass stuff off into other threads for processing events, etc, which ofc makes a fair risk on our side

[oblique haven]

so the player -> proxy -> server channel is the only thing being checked against so somehow proxy -> server is becoming out-of-sync because the proxy is sending some packet like a command packet which makes the server believe the chat was out of sync?

is that what we're working with here

[bold wharf]

yes

[oblique haven]

okie doke

[bold wharf]

what am guessing here is that due to the magic of events firing, and maybe plugins, something somewhere is going sideways

[oblique haven]

@Subscribe
public void onChat(ChatEvent event) {
  // send command
  // result "accept" 
}
``` crude but potential reproduction of the bug yes?

hm interesting, okei

[bold wharf]

that's one way to do it, yes

having a hardcoded "ignore me" thing is a good idea, tbqh

Like, we're not able to send signed packets over to the server anyways

[oblique haven]

we could have paper hardcode timestamps of -1 as ignored

[bold wharf]

Only if in forwarding mode

[oblique haven]

only if velocity-support is enabled yeh

[bold wharf]

I also wanna add some leeway to that mess

[oblique haven]

managed "order" of velocity should happen when client talks to velocity, so paper should abandon the desire to validate unsigned messages in this circumstance

unless there's some reason we want unsigned stuff to be ordered - if we force signed objects to be ordered and drop unsigned objects as "unordered" or "ignored" we can just skip this whole issue because we can guarantee on the velocity side that it won't be passing down "unsigned" values unless it's explicitly allowed, and unsigned commands should be blocked at the proxy level as well if such a case exists where we don't want to be passing it, along with unsigned "chat" at the server level

intents may change this but if you drop the command intent then the validation should be passed to the server which should probably be denoted in the forwarding, but I think that's the "sane" way to handle this without adding magic values everywhere

[bold wharf]

how do you "force" signed objects to be ordered is the issue

[oblique haven]

if you're not rewriting them then they should be known by the server at execution time - events are "completable" so we can track completion stages of a specific event and run the queue in order

future.whenComplete(() => <hook>) then it runs down to the next future and runs the same, adding hooks to futures even in post-completion works as expected as far as I understand

[bold wharf]

message 1 is sent

[oblique haven]

if there's no future handler it will just hold the value and stall (or should)

[bold wharf]

message 2 is sent

event handler for message 2 fin

event handler for message 1 fin

wat do?

[oblique haven]

future.whenComplete(() => <hook>) then it runs down to the next future and runs the same, adding hooks to futures even in post-completion works as expected as far as I understand

BasicQueue<CompletableFuture<SomeOrderedEvent>> queue;

while(true)
  next = pop queue; // concurrent "await" here for the next event in line
  next.whenComplete() // fire downstream packet
``` messages `client -> proxy` should exist in-order so when filling the queue we can "guarantee" this

when a Future lacks a handler it should just stall and calling whenComplete on a completed Future will just fire immediately

[bold wharf]

I mean, my theory was to basically generate the future into the queue

and then use the whenComplete to pop said queue

[oblique haven]

I liked your idea, yeah, it's sensible

[bold wharf]

I don't get where the while(true) comes into your thing

[oblique haven]

just jotted down

implementation wouldn't work exactly like that

whenComplete would need to call back to the queue to "free"

we can just use synchronized object locks for that though

[bold wharf]

basically, my thinking was that we didn't need to care in many respects

[oblique haven]

while true:
  cache.wait();
  next = cache.pop();
  next.whenComplete(() => cache.notify())
``` something like this makes some sense

[bold wharf]

in example of event 2 finishing before 1, the whenComplete would run, peek, and see that the first one isn't completed, and just disappear

[oblique haven]

there's some cache locking methods needed to sync it up but meh

[oblique haven]

no, event 2 would finish and stall in the future, the future wouldn't be tied to any handler until it's popped by the queue

[bold wharf]

No need for it to stall

[oblique haven]

it wouldn't logically stall the cpu - it just would be resolved and be waiting to be popped

completable futures aren't lazy (at least from what I understand)

[bold wharf]

I'm lost on what you're thinking then

[oblique haven]

okay hold on

// FutureCallable = CompletableFuture<SomeChatHandleOrWhatnot>

private final Stack<FutureCallable> futures = new Stack<>();

public synchronized void emitChat(FutureCallable callable) {
  futures.push(callable);
}

public void popChatQueue() {
  var nextFuture = futures.poll();
  nextFuture.whenComplete(item -> {
    playerChannel.emitChat(item.someChatValueOrWhatnot());
    popChatQueue();
  });
}

basic writeup of my thoughts, which I think is what you were thinking

this Stack is FIFO

not FILO (even though I think java's impl is)

this would require a "dedicated thread" but could be pushed into an executor queue which wouldn't be super bad, then we can just "re-queue" the poll task in the executor if we want

then we can do a stack.pop().isComplete() check to see if we can dump more from the queue

[bold wharf]

Yea, I didn't want a deadicated thread was my thing

I mean, dedicated thread works but my concern was is that we'd ideally want a per-connection queue, not per player

[oblique haven]

we can run this through executors and make the task re-assign itself so it self-propagates over as many threads as necessary

we don't need to do this in a single thread layout

[bold wharf]

and thus having a thread manage that just made it seem annoying, and having thread pools for just popping a queue gets tedious and inefficent

[oblique haven]

having a dedicated thread brings more issues at scale

having some pool run through the client queues seems more sensible at scale since it can scale easier

and it's not like the executor will always have a "wait", we can pop an entire queue, channel the entire queue, and not re-prop if the queue is empty

and if there's minimal chat mangling this should work very in-line, executors polling the queue doesn't seem like a bad thing here

I don't see a much better way to even put this together other than synchronizing the output into some "pre-channel" buffer

[bold wharf]

my thoughts was,
fun onChat(Chat) {
val chatFut = ComputFut.doStuff(fireEvent, etc, etc)
stack.push(chatFut)
chatFut.whenComplete( stack.peek().isComplete ( pop until queue empty or !isComplete))

I mean, thats messy, and, kinda bleh, but, I mean, I don't really see a none bleh solution here

lets us use the existing threads already in play to just do the trivial work of popping the queue

[oblique haven]

why don't we use a "chain"

Future somePlayerCachedChatFuture = CompletableFuture.completed();

onChat(Chat) {
  somePlayerCachedChatFuture = somePlayerCachedChatFeature.thenCompose(() -> /* new completable future */.whenComplete(/* flush packet */))
}

this would work no?

or rather wrapping the whenComplete on the outer layer

[bold wharf]

well, yes, but I wasn't aware on the thread safety inclinations of that

[oblique haven]

we can just lock the future

if it's all coming through the netty threads it should all be in-line

[bold wharf]

Well, the issue is the plugins

but, idk how we'd deal with that sanely anyways unless we just do the magic timestamp thing anyways

[oblique haven]

plugins can't sign so if we assume unsigned messages or commands are ignored for timestamps then this solves itself

which puts the "validation required" at the proxy level which is fine since we already der commands and messages

so if we Object.lock() the future then Object.wait() and Object.notify() make this super trivial for synchronizing future modifications

we'd probably use class level sync locks, or just some new Object() in a queue wrapper or something

lemme write up a quick POC

[bold wharf]

I mean, I see the concept, I didn't exactly wanna enforce 1 event at a time per player, etc

[oblique haven]

right no - me neither, I'm almost done writing it up I think

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/24de97e7e97444a9a121da398df189f3 @bold wharf

this is what I was thinking ^

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/fa9a44c911fe4f2b836c6a875d1d4c49 basic output - I think I'm missing one, there's 149 printouts when there should be 150, I'll go figure out why that is - but this is the basic "idea"

[bold wharf]

that emit method looks sus

but, my brain is out of juice

like, submitting already completed futures to there already looks like a moot test case

[oblique haven]

I can add in latency imitating based executors to give a better idea, I’ll do 1-10ms latency per call for “handling”

Still need to figure out why 1 call is being omitted lol

[oblique haven]

https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/7935ead0e28b43938579865d7cac0bac here's a working prototype with "faked" latency between messages to a point where some are going to "cross-align"

unsure how this comes in to play with netty channels - but it seems to suggest that so long as the client is in-order it should process them sequentially

this is a rough mock up though - but it doesn't require a "dedicated thread" and allows for simple completable futures to chain off one another with a base "empty"

  private CompletableFuture<T> uniWhenCompleteStage(Executor e, BiConsumer<? super T, ? super Throwable> f) {
    if (f == null) {
      throw new NullPointerException();
    } else {
      CompletableFuture<T> d = this.newIncompleteFuture();
      Object r;
      if ((r = this.result) == null) {
        this.unipush(new UniWhenComplete(e, d, this, f));
      } else if (e == null) {
        d.uniWhenComplete(r, f, (UniWhenComplete)null);
      } else {
        try {
          e.execute(new UniWhenComplete((Executor)null, d, this, f));
        } catch (Throwable var6) {
          d.result = encodeThrowable(var6);
        }
      }

      return d;
    }
  }``` this kind of lets us play with it like that because it waits for the stage to be complete

and hinging synchronization on an object lock makes the most sense in java since iirc object likes are FIFO so acquiring the lock will put you in a read queue for the object which frees up after the sync block in emit

    public void emit(CompletableFuture<Chat> chatFutureLocal) {
        System.out.println("AI incr: " + MESSAGE_COUNT.incrementAndGet());
        synchronized (lock) {
            this.chatFuture.thenRun(() -> // after the current call finishes, whether it be now or later
                chatFutureLocal.whenComplete(BasicChatQueue::emitChatDemo)); // setup a hook for this call (which could be now or later) to emit chat when complete
            this.chatFuture = chatFutureLocal; // set the `chat future` to the local one to create the "chain"
        }
    }``` it's all very simple imo, but it should do the job for timestamp consistency unless the player is sending out-of-order packets which is _always_ an issue according to paper

I don't see how this breaks - we just can't push in our own proxy-owned information, so if we find a way to get paper to drop certain packets or "not care" about order for certain packets we can easily achieve the expected outcome through this ^ and all it does is back its way into the netty threads which initially controlled them

I don't exactly know how this will jump threads - but it should event 1 thread 1 emit message 1 <handle message 1 whenComplete in thread 1, thenRun in thread 2> event 2 thread 2 emit message 2 <handle message 2 whenComplete in thread 2, thenRun in thread n...>

this should be fine since the latest will dequeue on complete so we should have to worry about "artifact" values other than potentially the size of a chat packet which exists to push the chain along

and each player gets their own Queue since it uses a local lock object

(we can't use the chained future because it changes)

[bold wharf]

I mean, I can only see so much without it being in the actual impl which looks ass anyways

[oblique haven]

I mean the concept works in testing

[bold wharf]

I feel somewhat iffy on this, ngl; but, as said, there is no solution here which is gonna look great

The code in the proxy doesn't exactly look well designed for shoving this into is what I mean

I also don't know how/where you plan to hook it in and what the side effects of that will be

[oblique haven]

we put it in the BackendChannelPlay handler

then run it on handleChat and wrap the chat event in the future

then pass the future into the linked event inside of the backend play handler

we don't copy this 1-1 into velocity for sure - but the idea works which is what I'm grabbing at

[bold wharf]

my one thing is is that it looks like you can't have 2 events processing for a single player and that it's basically just gonna act like a glorified queue

[oblique haven]

if the 2 events are processing in 2 different threads you definitely can

[bold wharf]

I mean from a singular player

[oblique haven]

that's what I'm saying as well

    public static CompletableFuture<Chat> chatFuture(String message) {
        final Chat chat = new Chat(message, new Date());
        TO_CALL.add(chat);
        return CompletableFuture.supplyAsync(() -> {
            try {
                Thread.sleep(ThreadLocalRandom.current().nextLong(100, 200));
            } catch (InterruptedException e) {
                throw new RuntimeException(e);
            }
            return chat;
        }, executor);
    }

    public static void main(String[] args) {
        BasicChatQueue queue = new BasicChatQueue();
        for (int i = 0; i < THREADS; i++) {
            final int e = i;
            var t = new Thread(() -> {
                try {
                    for (int t1 = 0; t1 < 3; t1++) {
                        Thread.sleep(ThreadLocalRandom.current().nextLong(5, 10));
                        queue.emit(chatFuture("Test Thread %d (%d)".formatted(e, t1)));
                    }
                } catch (InterruptedException exx) {
                    throw new RuntimeException(exx);
                }
                var x = THREAD_COUNT.decrementAndGet();
                System.out.printf("Teardown for thread %d%n", x);
                if (x == 0) {
                    BasicChatQueue.executor.shutdown();
                }
            });
            t.start();
        }
    }``` these test markings `5-10ms between calls` and `100-200ms` of latency within __every__ chat call finishes in about 1 second

if these weren't running in parallel it would take like 2 minutes or smth

the Thread.sleep(100 -> 200) imitates handling of the packet, and the 5-10 in the bottom accounts over some form of latency

[bold wharf]

yea, I mean, idk, am tired and can't really judge it on all I can see atm

[oblique haven]

no sweat, this does seem like it's working though with fairly minimal lift

the idea is essentially

cachedFuture = completed future of some sort;

emit(newFuture) { (synchronized call)
  cachedFuture (when finished) -> add chat handler to newFuture to emit packet
  cachedFuture = newFuture
}
``` saying anything more is vastly over-complicating the scenario

then we drop the cached future and it's left to die in the GC

these futures are immediately dropped once the next handler runs through so we're always cleaning up behind ourselves

that's enough text dumping for me for now though - let me know what you think in the morning 🙂

keep in mind this impl doesn't work unless we let the backend server get rid of certain packets which have magic timestamps or something similar since our packets cannot go through this queue, keeps in mind latency and everything like that since TCP is transactionally based and will (usually? if not always) come in the order it's sent from the client

[bold wharf]

also, do note that you need to handle command packets in there too

[oblique haven]

that's fine, the CompletableFuture it takes would be generalized enough to contain whatever

java doesn't make that part hard so we have an easy win there

we can just do like Either<X, Z> either.caseOfX(x -> {}) or whatever we want to do, there's so many options in modern java

[craggy pecan]

modern java... says Either...

We have records now

and sealed interfaces

[oblique haven]

or whatever we want to do
I'm aware of the modern java constructs

[bold wharf]

we're java 11

[oblique haven]

😉

[craggy pecan]

ugghh... I forgot about that

[oblique haven]

hopefully 18 soon

[bold wharf]

jumping to latest LTS on next major is defo an idea

[craggy pecan]

Considering MC requires 17 and most (all?) users running a proxy run a server, what's holding the update to java 17?

[bold wharf]

I dont wanna be chasing releases, however

major release, bumping java version mid cycle is bleh

Theres much to do for mc 1.19, but, post 1.19, I wanna do a release

[oblique haven]

we should probably follow MC client version spec for Velocity

[craggy pecan]

eghh, Java is "technically" backwards compatible (for >9)

[oblique haven]

java 11 -> java 17 is rough

[craggy pecan]

how so?

[oblique haven]

well I guess not in runtime

hm

[bold wharf]

I mean, breaking everybodies environment mid cycle to tell them to update java is not nice

[oblique haven]

(well)

[bold wharf]

that's why I'd prefer to do it on a major, maaaaaybe a minor

but, defo not mid patch

[oblique haven]

makes sense

[craggy pecan]

https://bstats.org/plugin/server-implementation/Velocity/4752#java_version

[oblique haven]

java 12?

I've never seen that version used in my life

[bold wharf]

1

but, graph is irrelevant for this discussion

[craggy pecan]

sure, you're right, we shouldn't update until 1.19 is polished

[bold wharf]

as said, java bump would be ideally on a major, maaaybe on a minor

not my decision entirely, but, yea

[oblique haven]

I think the idea is to only push java on major MC version releases so that people don’t lose support for a version in the middle of a version @craggy pecan

[bold wharf]

I mean, we're not tied to mojang versioning

"official" policy for paper is the previous LTS iirc

[oblique haven]

Yeah but Velocity has built in stuff which handles backporting

I think that brings it to a different area even though paper itself doesn’t support legacy

Like I mean Via is just a hack - Velocity has built-in support (which is good) but Velocity usually does major revisions at the end of a version, or during the transition into a new version which seems like the most sane time to do such updates

Java 17 is LTS

[analog cedar]

I've seen that Velocity supports Brigadier, but I have not seen any signs of Minecraft related argument types being implemented. Are the Minecraft related argument types implemented by Velocity? For example, how do I make a command with an int range? (like 3..49, where 3 ≤ x ≤ 49) I understand that most of these will not make sense without more context on the server (like selectors), but registering these types of commands would make tab-completion much, much easier

[sour current]

See https://docs.papermc.io/velocity/dev/command-api#brigadiercommand, for an integer argument type you'd just use IntegerArgumentType.integer(3, 49)

[analog cedar]

yes i have seen that but those are just the core ones

i asked about the Minecraft specific argument types

[opaque escarp]

Velocity only has access to the default Brigadier argument types, although there is probably a way to get the Minecraft argument types or inject custom ones (e.g. https://github.com/PaperMC/Velocity/blob/dev/3.0.0/proxy/src/main/java/com/velocitypowered/proxy/command/brigadier/StringArrayArgumentType.java ), but I don't think it is supported or recommended

[fossil sundial]

I don’t see a reason to provide the game types to api
You wouldn’t be able to use them correctly without the data from the server or client anyway
Plus they’re highly version dependent and iffy in conformity

[signal ember]

Was about to ask something similar, would there be any way to use a TextArgumentType? Obviously it uses a Text and not a Component, but is there any way it could be wrapped to provide the same output for the client as they type?

[fossil sundial]

I’m not following

[signal ember]

the tellraw command uses a TextArgumentType to parse a Component (well a Text in Mojang terms), and on the clientside it parses it to tell if it's valid as well (at least that's my understanding, unless I'm wrong and that has happened before)

Obviously I could re-implement this with GsonComponentSerializer, but then the client wouldn't have the same feedback

[fossil sundial]

Doesn’t that exist already? No clue

[signal ember]

Not from what I can tell?

Minecraft provides it as the parser minecraft:component, at least that's what I'm gathering from wiki.vg

Not sure how ArgumentType<T> provides what kind of type it parses? only ever looking into brigader and it's MC impl now

[analog cedar]

again, thats what i was asking for

[analog cedar]

while i agree about some of them being very context dependent, i don't exactly see the reason why some could be implemented

not sure about them being version dependent, as these don't necessarily change

[fossil sundial]

No; you don’t understand; a lot of these use data that the client already has or the server has. To get that data the proxy would have to listen to every single packet for that context and build it. We ain’t doing that.

[analog cedar]

Again, i'm not talking about those

for example, the raw text component has no ingame context whatsoever

[nova sparrow]

Five how can i send packets to a player without relying on a 3rd party api like protocolize?
Doesn't look like the Player interface allows you to send packets to a connection

[fossil sundial]

Isn’t intended. Go look at how ViaVersion injects

The arguments velocity provides are the primitive arguments https://github.com/Mojang/brigadier/tree/master/src/main/java/com/mojang/brigadier/arguments

[analog cedar]

yes i saw those

[fossil sundial]

That was meant as a reply^

[analog cedar]

thats why i was asking mainly

yeah no worries

Another question: if i use a BrigadierCommand for registering commands, will they work in some sort of legacy mode with older clients? (for example with ViaVersion)

[fossil sundial]

Yes

I’m not open for discussion on any of this till the 25th

I have exams starting tomorrow

[signal ember]

sure

[nova sparrow]

cheers will do

[signal ember]

i'll just implement an argument type and serializer for minecraft:component as Component and put the PR up

cause I feel as at least that one should exist for clients that support it

[fossil sundial]

Internally there is already

Just a dummy for now

[signal ember]

no, there isn't

it's empty

yeah okay

[fossil sundial]

It is empty though

[signal ember]

correct ^^

[fossil sundial]

The impl would also be a placeholder

[signal ember]

why would it?

GsonComponentSerializer?

[fossil sundial]

Cause the worst you could do is verify it

[signal ember]

huh?

what are you talking about

[fossil sundial]

Otherwise the processing is client side

Brigadier tells the client “component here”
And nothing else
What you want is to have the proxy do a placeholder swap
Which is not an argument decoder

a magic <T>

[signal ember]

I don't understand?

I want to be able to have specify a Component as an argument in my plugin

so the client knows it's there

and that's currently not possible

[analog cedar]

so like

what if you want to create a /tellraw command but on the proxy

you can message players components already, and you could get a component from the argument directly

[signal ember]

Alright, implemented it... will fix it up and throw a PR for anyone that wants to look at it

[charred pulsar]

does velocity have a yaml implementation included?

[opaque escarp]

https://github.com/SpongePowered/Configurate/tree/3.x

[charred pulsar]

thank you

[charred pulsar]

i wonder does velocity have way to execute "commands" from code? searching those dispatchCommand, invokeCommand terms on javadocs does not seems to be a thing

[bold wharf]

on the command manager thing

it's like runAsync or something

[lethal garnet]

i remember this being on the velocity forums somewhere

[ashen fiber]

I wouldn't use the configurate version provided by Velocity, it's a major version behind.

[undone jackal]

hey! is it possible to write a plugin for velocity that can add additional servers to the network? I'm trying to scale my minigame servers w/ docker but I cant find a way to add a new server to velocity.

[bold wharf]

yes, there is a method to create a registered server somewhere and register it into the proxy

[charred pulsar]

https://jd.papermc.io/velocity/3.0.0/com/velocitypowered/api/proxy/ProxyServer.html#registerServer(com.velocitypowered.api.proxy.server.ServerInfo)

and also for unregister

https://jd.papermc.io/velocity/3.0.0/com/velocitypowered/api/proxy/ProxyServer.html#unregisterServer(com.velocitypowered.api.proxy.server.ServerInfo)

[undone jackal]

epic thanks!!

[slow thistle]

how do you do async stuff

[charred pulsar]

Use the Proxy scheduler

[vestal prawn]

or create your own scheduler

[quiet kestrel]

Is there a possibility to use Yaml instead of Toml for configurations?

[nova sparrow]

https://github.com/SpongePowered/Configurate/tree/3.x

Believe velocity has it built in

[winged pike]

how could i store info inside blocks previous to 1.16?

[nova sparrow]

probably not the right channel

[old plover]

Hello, I don't find a method for broadcast at player with custom perms a message

anyone can help me?

[burnt dragon]

iterate/filter